Rally2 (ex-R5) News [Archive] - Page 8

Tom206wrc

22nd May 2014, 13:58

from motorsportmonday
when Magalhaes asked why he didn t entered with 208 r5 he answered that Peugeot dont delivering cars.
http://digital.motorsportmonday.com//launch.aspx?eid=13689a1d-de6e-49e3-b90d-e9547cea8f3d

So Pieter Tsjoen is also in doubt :confused:

Tom206wrc

22nd May 2014, 13:59

Kruuda-Järveoja https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQsf3AxDasU

Very spectacular :eek:

mousti

22nd May 2014, 14:09

So Pieter Tsjoen is also in doubt :confused:
Don't think so it's an official program like in Italy with Ucci, and they have already enough negative press about it. Verschueren's DS3 should be there end of may.

jliivak

23rd May 2014, 10:06

Does any one know something about this project?
https://www.facebook.com/MitsubishiR5Official

23rd May 2014, 10:20

Kruuda-Järveoja https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQsf3AxDasU

Looks very good at high speed, will be interesting to see how they do somewhere like Finland.

wrc45

23rd May 2014, 15:28

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m5DvmDB1q8

Another video from Kruudas test. Very Nice footage!

Tom206wrc

23rd May 2014, 15:44

He really has sense of presentation :D

Andre Oliveira

23rd May 2014, 20:41

http://www.emotorsport.se/foto_visa.php?tavlings_id=2424
http://www.emotorsport.se/foto/14-05-17_rallykarlstad_14.jpg
http://www.emotorsport.se/foto/14-05-17_rallykarlstad_15.jpg
http://www.emotorsport.se/foto/14-05-17_rallykarlstad_16.jpg

Andre Oliveira

23rd May 2014, 20:43

http://www.emotorsport.se/foto/14-05-17_rallykarlstad_05.jpg

OldF

23rd May 2014, 21:41

Does any one know something about this project?
https://www.facebook.com/MitsubishiR5Official

If I remember correctly, this is a project by permission of Mitsubishi to build a R5 for use in Swedish national championship (I couldn’t find the original post anymore).

Sulland

24th May 2014, 16:11

Facebookgroup for the new swedish Mitsubishi Mirage R5:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=224859097723632&set=a.224857941057081.1073741827.224851261057749&type=1

What do we know of their test plans?

Andre Oliveira

25th May 2014, 13:13

Chassis 10 to Tagai Racing Technologies (Karl Kruuda)

Still to know:

PY63 LZE (Maurin) -> Chassis?
DF-600-KY (Lafay) -> Chassis?
14R 0244 ( Odložilík) -> Chassis?
PY63 LYU (Ahlin) -> Chassis?

Tom206wrc

26th May 2014, 12:42

Next round of danish rallies championship this coming week-end with Christian Jensen trying to win in the 208 T16 :bounce:

mousti

26th May 2014, 19:00

Already for sale..

http://m.rally24.com/rally-cars-for-sale/citroen-ds3-r3-ds3-r5-34798.html

tommeke_B

26th May 2014, 19:22

Already for sale..

http://m.rally24.com/rally-cars-for-sale/citroen-ds3-r3-ds3-r5-34798.html

Perfect match for somebody with too much money and too little patience... :)

dimviii

26th May 2014, 19:27

300k? so cheap?

Andre Oliveira

27th May 2014, 15:28

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Boo_aiICQAAGZx3.jpg

mousti

27th May 2014, 16:58

TRT has 2 208's or just in Rzeznik's livery for this weekend and for Sardegna again in Kruuda's colors..

PLuto

27th May 2014, 18:54

I think they have only one car yet.

Andre Oliveira

27th May 2014, 21:49

Chassis 10 to Tagai Racing Technologies (Karl Kruuda)

Still to know:

PY63 LZE (Maurin) -> Chassis?
DF-600-KY (Lafay) -> Chassis?
14R 0244 ( Odložilík) -> Chassis?
PY63 LYU (Ahlin) -> Chassis?

14R 0244 founded, chassis 15, ex PX13 AKU/AUK

TRT has 2 208's or just in Rzeznik's livery for this weekend and for Sardegna again in Kruuda's colors..

Yes, it is the same KN S 059, chassis 10.

br21

27th May 2014, 22:29

Rzeznik crashed during tests:
http://rsmp.tv/index.php/media-gallery/422-29-rajd-karkonoski-m-rzeznik-p-mazur-dzwon

Filip

27th May 2014, 22:38

Looks like quite a lot of work for TRT mechanics this week.

Mirek

27th May 2014, 22:44

Rzeznik crashed during tests:
http://rsmp.tv/index.php/media-gallery/422-29-rajd-karkonoski-m-rzeznik-p-mazur-dzwon

Out of curiosity... how come that there are always tons of crashes in pre-event tests in Poland?

Andre Oliveira

27th May 2014, 23:10

Robert Tagai :

Hát egy-két elem megsérült, de semmi komoly!
"Well, one or two items damaged, but nothing serious!"

Andre Oliveira

28th May 2014, 00:12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V21RLypfsCg

Andre Oliveira

28th May 2014, 00:54

PY63 LZE (Maurin) -> Chassis?
DF-600-KY (Lafay) -> Chassis?
PY63 LYU (Ahlin) -> Chassis?

PY63 LYP to Hungary, chassis unknown

HaCo

28th May 2014, 07:08

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V21RLypfsCg

Like the livery and the sound, pitty for the crash, but doesn't look too bad.

Jarek Z

30th May 2014, 22:07

Out of curiosity... how come that there are always tons of crashes in pre-event tests in Poland?

Our drivers are very "talented" ;)

dimviii

1st June 2014, 14:08

Pons ds3 r5 will be delivered at September.They have ordered already a fiesta r5 according to Motorsport Monday.

Andre Oliveira

3rd June 2014, 01:12

Chassis 63 to Philip Cracco -> PY63 LZF
Chassis 66 to Xevi Pons -> PX14 HVJ

Rasantes

3rd June 2014, 10:15

Chassis 66 to Xevi Pons -> PX14 HVJ
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpJ-PefCUAA9nA_.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpKADxLIIAIWZ9p.jpg:large

Andre Oliveira

4th June 2014, 01:04

Still to find chassis:

PY63 LZE (Maurin)
DF-600-KY (Lafay)
PY63 LYU (Ahlin)
PY63 LYT (Tanak)
SP 0379 (Kaur)
CJ 13 MCT (Tempestini)
PY63 LYP (Trencsenyi)

Andre Oliveira

4th June 2014, 10:39

SP 0379 is ex Printsport unit, chassis 31.
CJ 13 MCT is ex PX13 ATK and 02R 0061.

Andre Oliveira

5th June 2014, 01:07

Ricardo Moura
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/q73/s720x720/10384823_800861576605062_8755271113698925893_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/q85/s720x720/10405639_800859843271902_2528947679603526195_n.jpg

Andre Oliveira

5th June 2014, 01:08

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/q77/s720x720/10155846_800578993299987_1968181123377201029_n.jpg
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/q72/s720x720/10341459_800572563300630_6232375946195787868_n.jpg

5th June 2014, 11:24

^^ Cool livery.

Andre Oliveira

5th June 2014, 21:27

Photos of Peugeot 208 T16 test to Ypres here (http://www.ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=17678&t=Test-Peugeot-Sport-Geko-Ypres-Rally-2014)

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/test_peugeot_sport_geko_ypres_rally_2014/tho_036-3_1200-800.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/test_peugeot_sport_geko_ypres_rally_2014/tho_085-3_1200-800.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/test_peugeot_sport_geko_ypres_rally_2014/tho_094-2_1200-800.jpg

Andre Oliveira

6th June 2014, 03:12

Great video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq7toEiqOhk&feature=youtu.be

br21

6th June 2014, 11:18

sound of this R5+ is really cool!

EightGear

6th June 2014, 22:12

So, Chardonnet is 2 minutes off the lead in WRC2 after the first leg. I know it doesn't really matter, but Peugeot's debut on an international event made a bigger impact.

Tom206wrc

6th June 2014, 22:56

Chardonnet and Kruuda aren't the same level of experience at all ;)
If Karl drove the Citroën, it would be among the lead...

EightGear

6th June 2014, 23:06

Chardonnet and Kruuda aren't the same level of experience at all ;)
If Karl drove the Citroën, it would be among the lead...

I actually meant the Acropolis as the 208's international debut. It was right on the pace and won it's first international event. I know Chardonnet maybe isn't on the same level as Abbring and Breen but Peugeot's debut had a bit more attention and excitement (which automatically leads to the ERC vs. WRC2 discussion).

Mirek

6th June 2014, 23:14

That's how it goes. Very few people are interested in sub-categories. Even if Acropolis was not WRC it's MUUUCH more to win it overall than to win ANY WRC2 event.

vino_93

6th June 2014, 23:22

I don't know exactly where I can talk about it, but a 208 Proto built in Poland will go in Madagascar. After Spain, a new country for these Proto.

br21

7th June 2014, 10:42

I don't know exactly where I can talk about it, but a 208 Proto built in Poland will go in Madagascar. After Spain, a new country for these Proto.

there is also one in New Zealand, some in USA, Ukraine, etc

Sulland

7th June 2014, 13:39

sound of this R5+ is really cool!

Is it only larger restrictor that is the + or is it more?

Sulland

7th June 2014, 13:43

What is the 208 Proto?

Filip

7th June 2014, 14:25

208 Proto is based on the 208 chassis with Mitsubishi Evo X drivetrain, there are also Polo proto and i20 proto all based on the same concept and built by Dytko Sport in Poland.
208 proto:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb0_t2Cf84I

vino_93

7th June 2014, 15:15

there is also one in New Zealand, some in USA, Ukraine, etc
Polish proto in USA? For who ?

br21

7th June 2014, 17:04

Is it only larger restrictor that is the + or is it more?

It's bigger turbo (from WRC), bigger restrictor, different mapping, WRC rear spoiler, etc

Sulland

8th June 2014, 10:59

How different are the PSA-twins, technically?

Do they share cooling system incl radiator, or are there differences?

Co-driven

9th June 2014, 02:22

Apparently they share the radiator...

PLuto

9th June 2014, 13:16

How different are the PSA-twins, technically?

Do they share cooling system incl radiator, or are there differences?

They are talking that 80% is same.

Vaggelis27

10th June 2014, 00:34

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hoD3oaypMs My video from the test after Acropolis rally!

the sniper

10th June 2014, 03:35

10th June 2014, 10:50

I presume the Fabia R5 in this guise will never be rallied and is just a test mule? I wonder when we'll see it testing in 2015 model guise, as the new Fabia looks a bit different then the outgoing model: http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-skoda-fabia-laid-bare-ahead-paris-reveal

I expect we will see at least one official photo of the new Fabia road car before the end of July, and then I expect they will start public testing of the R5 with the new bodyshell (probably in some black-and-white disguise livery)

Maybe they'll show us the undisguised new R5 either at Barum or the Paris show?

PLuto

10th June 2014, 12:08

Actual plan is to show the new car at show in September (Frankfurt?).

polo10

10th June 2014, 13:30

Actual plan is to show the new car at show in September (Frankfurt?).

I think this year show is in Paris,begining October...

Andre Oliveira

10th June 2014, 15:02

PY63 LZC to Casier. Chassis?

10th June 2014, 17:35

Actual plan is to show the new car at show in September (Frankfurt?).

You mean R5?

It is Paris, 4th-19th October.

nafpaktos

10th June 2014, 18:12

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc-2/news/2014/june/sousa-penalty/page/1466--12-12-.html

It says they took a penalty for smaller radiator,is this correct? I mean when i start reading the article i thought it would say that took penalty for bigger radiator because they face overheating problems.

Mirek

10th June 2014, 18:55

Nornbugger

10th June 2014, 19:25

It doesn't matter if it's smaller or bigger. There are dimensions with tolerances and if some is out of tolerance it's illegal. Simple as that. And in fact it was NOT smaller. Homologated dimensions are 450x326x36 mm. The frontal area is 146700 mm2. In case of Kruuda and Chardonnet it was 451x330x34 mm which is 148830 mm2, i.e. 1,4% larger frontal area. Anyway the tolerances are +/- 2 mm to A and B and +/- 1 mm to C dimension. In that case B and C were out of tolerance.

5281200 mm3 homologated size
5060220 mm3 actual size in wrong radiators, cant see thast this was done for benefit but rules broke=penalty but I do wonder would the penalty be as light is they were to make the rad oversized?

Mirek

10th June 2014, 20:40

Frontal area is in my opinion more important than depth with the radiator. Anyway it's useless semantics since there are rules clearly given black on white and those were violated.

br21

10th June 2014, 20:48

First evolution of radiators were made with OK dimensions, but they were cracking... second evolution which is stronger is not fully legal it looks

Andre Oliveira

10th June 2014, 21:16

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpwVBcGCQAEeKRz.jpg

Andre Oliveira

10th June 2014, 21:21

R5+
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10376905_802932289737059_4802305350242046612_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-9/q80/s720x720/10369592_802932299737058_5668866083648310595_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/q71/s720x720/10423877_802932316403723_5467617141261831795_n.jpg

nafpaktos

10th June 2014, 23:21

It's bigger turbo (from WRC), bigger restrictor, different mapping, WRC rear spoiler, etc
A technical question.we have two turbos.one big and one smaller but with the same restrictor,what are the differences to the output.

Andre Oliveira

10th June 2014, 23:27

CW-589-KC to Belguim, unknow chassis

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpyUrKKIUAAUoO4.jpg:large

dimviii

10th June 2014, 23:44

A technical question.we have two turbos.one big and one smaller but with the same restrictor,what are the differences to the output.

depents how small,and how big you mean.For which engine?
ie you mean a bigger turbo( vs what they are using now?) at wrc car with current 34mm restrictor?

pucky54

10th June 2014, 23:44

CW-589-KC to Belguim, unknow chassis

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BpyUrKKIUAAUoO4.jpg:large

chassis no 5

Andre Oliveira

10th June 2014, 23:47

Thanks:)

Andre Oliveira

11th June 2014, 09:41

Frygies Turan 208 T16, plate? Chassis?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/q77/s720x720/10455856_715818081809964_5283078549137213281_n.jpg

Andre Oliveira

11th June 2014, 11:11

PY63 LZC to Casier. Chassis?

Chassis 64

mousti

11th June 2014, 11:56

Frygies Turan 208 T16, plate? Chassis?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/q77/s720x720/10455856_715818081809964_5283078549137213281_n.jpg

Not same like Kruuda and Rzeznik?

dimviii

11th June 2014, 12:21

Lappi testing r5 vs s2000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Ef-KIsW_E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ofSOO8Fi2A

nafpaktos

11th June 2014, 14:08

ie you mean a bigger turbo( vs what they are using now?) at wrc car with current 34mm restrictor?
YES!!
i want to know what would be the differences,since the air-volume that enters the turbo is the same on both occasions because of the same restrictor.

dimviii

11th June 2014, 14:23

YES!!
i want to know what would be the differences,since the air-volume that enters the turbo is the same on both occasions because of the same restrictor.

will not make more power,and will be worst in terms of lag.Also worst will be the response at part throttle accelerations.

Andre Oliveira

11th June 2014, 15:38

Not same like Kruuda and Rzeznik?

Yes :)

Mirek

11th June 2014, 18:39

Lappi testing r5 vs s2000

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8Ef-KIsW_E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ofSOO8Fi2A

And the sound is gone... also on this road the S2000 looks and sounds way more spectacular.

11th June 2014, 20:18

And the sound is gone... also on this road the S2000 looks and sounds way more spectacular.

I feared the sound would become more 'sensible' as time went on, but we do still have some pops and burbles at least.

Day 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIadlSf9A50

makinen_fan

13th June 2014, 12:11

Loix testing Fabia R5 gallery
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.767369483286162.1073741874.675533142469797&type=1

Francis44

13th June 2014, 21:11

So the new Fabia looks like this.....

http://www.2014bestnewcars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/2014-Skoda-Fabia-front-right.jpg

Looks good, very Polo like. Can't wait to see the bodyshell of the R5.

A FONDO

13th June 2014, 21:43

Is this what they have been hiding so many years?! It just looks like a garage imitation of the Polo.

Mirek

13th June 2014, 21:48

This is VERY OLD photoshop...

(actually combining Polo and Octavia)

Francis44

14th June 2014, 15:39

Sorry, my bad. I have been mislead by an online magazine. When will we have the reveal then?

Mirek

15th June 2014, 13:03

Official live presentation will be in Paris in early October I think however I hope they release pictures before Barum. I still hope we can see the real R5 there as a zero car although the hope is small.

Tom206wrc

16th June 2014, 15:10

When does Tsjoen receive his 208 T16 :confused:

mousti

16th June 2014, 19:11

2 weeks ago..

Sent from my HTC Desire X using Tapatalk 2

wwbroe

16th June 2014, 19:13

When does Tsjoen receive his 208 T16 :confused:

The team has received bodyshell allready last week, but the car isn't finished, and he skipped Wervik because no engine or gearbox. Normally he is supposed to test tomorrow, but i don't know if the car is finished by now.

mousti

16th June 2014, 19:29

Car is ready from yesterday.

Cracco's Fiesta R5
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/17/bybapyhy.jpg

Sent from my HTC Desire X using Tapatalk 2

nafpaktos

16th June 2014, 22:52

This car will he driven by ioannis papadimitriou to a greek rally.papadimitriou was greek rally champion with big abroad experience with top cars. http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=493&t=Ioannis-Papadimitriou

http://s27.postimg.org/txol1tfsz/image.jpg (http://postimage.org/)
image hosting 5mb (http://postimage.org/)

Mirek

16th June 2014, 23:59

Fabia R5 again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LU8HcZDR1E

Andre Oliveira

17th June 2014, 01:53

nafpaktos

17th June 2014, 03:10

Not this. This is Larsen one:) http://www.ewrc-results.com/carinfo.php?cid=47&car=1058 Right this is Larsen's car but the manager of the driver posted this photo.so i assume that maybe will rent from larsen the car????or maybe it was a random photo?soon we'll know.

manthey

17th June 2014, 07:24

Fabia R5 again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LU8HcZDR1E

I guess video still in italy
they had also lights installed, maybe they tested during night the famous and tough "Ronde" Sanremo ?

Andre Oliveira

17th June 2014, 13:43

Randoom photo :) Car is now re-reggistered with Norwish plate and will race this weekend.

dimviii

17th June 2014, 14:05

read page 80-81 about Kruudas 208 penalty at Sardegna
http://digital.motorsportmonday.com//launch.aspx?eid=654b1524-e9e0-4b10-8350-86d82eb2141e

Mirek

17th June 2014, 14:54

I guess video still in italy
they had also lights installed, maybe they tested during night the famous and tough "Ronde" Sanremo ?

Here better video of the same test. It's near Bajardo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFOOT493omc

17th June 2014, 15:46

Here better video of the same test. It's near Bajardo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFOOT493omc

Still sounds the best of the 4 R5 cars, even if it has lost some of it's early rawness.

Looks quite polished now too, I imagine it would be fairly competitive already.

18th June 2014, 21:42

More Fabia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNmOHydJ3Xc

22nd June 2014, 23:24

Are Skoda staying in Belgium for R5 testing?

makinen_fan

24th June 2014, 11:05

Baumschlager & Wiegand testing the Fabia R5

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/int/galerien/2014/test-fabia-r5-wiegand/index.html

24th June 2014, 15:19

Has anyone else driven the Fabia R5 besides Kopecky, Lappi, Loix, Wiegand and Baumschlager?

I remember during Fabia S2000 development they used people such as Panizzi, Lindholm, Sainz (?)..

Mirek

24th June 2014, 15:36

Isn't five drivers enough?

24th June 2014, 15:48

Isn't five drivers enough?

I should think so, I was just curious :)

WUff1

24th June 2014, 21:05

There are the Skoda works team drivers and on the other hand two older and very experienced drivers, who still could compete on a high international level, but who are now only competing in their national championships and retired of international rallying. But they still shine when ERC circuit visit their home countries. Loix and Baumschlager are long time skoda testers, too.

Andre Oliveira

26th June 2014, 20:56

New car to Ketomaa:

PX14 HVG (Chassis ?)

Need to know chassis of PY63 LYT (Tänak), DF-600-KY (Lafay), PY63 LYP (Hungary), PY63 LZE (Maurin), PY63 LYU (Ahlin) and CJ13 MCT (Tempestini)

Mirek

26th June 2014, 22:06

polo10

26th June 2014, 22:56

Baumschlager with Fabia R5. Unfortunately the author of the video stayed only at the end of stage but at least You can see some "race" starts from zero speed. The car is definitely much quicker from zero than S2000.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t7GXp2_N0I

Definitely much quicker from zero than S2000, like the actual R5 cars.
One Thing that i see in all R5 is that they easily Block the wheels When they brake hard

27th June 2014, 10:58

One Thing that i see in all R5 is that they easily Block the wheels When they brake hard

I noticed that... any technically minded people think of a reason why?

dimviii

27th June 2014, 11:10

haven t noticed something like that.

27th June 2014, 11:33

haven t noticed something like that.

Look at Ypres onboards of 208, it's very squirmy under braking.

Mirek

27th June 2014, 12:07

I also haven't noticed anything like that depending on the car. For me some drivers almost always lock wheels when braking (Breen for example), some almost never (Rossetti) regardless of the car they use. One thing which may play a role in this is that 208 and especially Fiesta dive a lot during braking (in comparison with Fabia S2000).

manthey

28th June 2014, 21:52

-italian most important car's magazine "Quattroruote" in the latest issue has a rendering of the fabia mk3
-in the article they assume that will be a revised actual platform with some components from mqb
-will add some cm to overall lenght
-will share the most with vw Polo
-particular design for the 3rd side window

http://s22.postimg.org/5rg0bspbx/fabia_3.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/5rg0bspbx/)

29th June 2014, 12:01

I have been a little disappointed with the performance of the R5 cars on the world stage, I expected them to be a little further ahead of RRC and S2000 cars than they are.

My feeling is still that the 208 is faster than the Fiesta, whilst it lasts. Maybe when we see some fast and experienced drivers in the 208/DS3 R5 these cars will close the gap on the WRCars?

dimviii

29th June 2014, 14:02

Maybe when we see some fast and experienced drivers in the 208/DS3 R5 these cars will close the gap on the WRCars?

no way.

mousti

29th June 2014, 15:32

Munaretto is now building too a 208 R5, Raoux would debut it in Estonia ERC event?

Sulland

29th June 2014, 17:03

Have any top drivers tested WRC, RRC and R5 on same route to see the diff pr km ss?

29th June 2014, 17:50

no way.

You misunderstood me, I meant partially..

skarderud

29th June 2014, 19:58

bluuford

29th June 2014, 22:11

I've made an intervju on eyvind brynhildsen at rallyradio at aurskog-hølandsrally, 5th round of norwegian championship. He started with his new fiesta rrc, and he said it was equal to the R5 he drove last year.
The speed is almost the same. RRC is just much better on rough surface. It is basically downgraded WRC and you can go across rough surface much quicker. Good example was Rally Italy where only on r5 finihed the whole rally.

29th June 2014, 22:24

So suspension is the main disadvantage of R5?

How does the engine compare to RRC and WRC in performance? I understand restrictor is bigger but it has to be based on a road car engine whereas the WRC engine can be custom built.

Sulland

29th June 2014, 22:25

RRC is WRC but with smaller restrictor, different flywheel and different spoiler kit
R5 has according to MSport 90% different parts from the RRC. Diff in engine, suspension (4 equal corners) also gearbox and other major parts.

Speedwise they are more or less the same, but think the RRC is tougher!

manthey

30th June 2014, 08:42

R5 32mm restrictor + 5 speed gearbox

RRC 30mm restrictor from Ford rrc sales document (mini rrc sales 30mm too) on wrc 31mm (http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/about-wrc/categories-wrc2/page/924-2053-672--.html) + 6 speed gearbox

do you know which is the right mm restrictor or wrc allowed 1mm larger width restrictor last year? I didn't find the news on the web....

Can we assume there is no difference on performance r5 vs rrc on tarmac?

Mirek

30th June 2014, 09:27

R5 has 32 mm and RRC 30 mm but the engines use different levels of tuning. RRC engines are tailor made racing units while R5 engine is tuned stock engine. As stated before the gearbox is as well better in RRC with six gears available compared to five of R5. Anyway the main advantage of RRC is that all its parts are made specifically for the rally use while R5 uses many parts from stock production hence it is less reliable especially in rough conditions. On the other hand RRC is at least 2x more expensive to run.

manthey: There are many very different kinds of tarmac. Catalunya is completely different than Barum, Sanremo is completely different than Ypres etc. I don't think that it's possible to simplify it so much. For example on bumpy surface here in CZ or in Belgium teams have been struggling with Fiesta R5 setup.

br21

30th June 2014, 15:11

In general R5 is accelerating a little bit better, but RRC turns better, as it has more advanced and stronger suspension. running cost of RRC is same as WRC, so way more then R5. Which car is faster depends on stages characteristics.

30th June 2014, 16:06

How do 'real life' power and torque figures compare R5/RRC/WRC then?

makinen_fan

2nd July 2014, 13:34

Fabia R5 test in Greece (more recent one)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B6cuZjAe5Y

Mirek

2nd July 2014, 16:54

Very spectacular!

By the way if anyone wants to see Fabia R5 testcar live he can go to Rally Bohemia next week. Lappi shall drive it as zero car.

2nd July 2014, 17:14

Very spectacular!

By the way if anyone wants to see Fabia R5 testcar live he can go to Rally Bohemia next week. Lappi shall drive it as zero car.

That's cool news :)

Great for Skoda to have a "real" test event so early.

I expect lots of great videos from our Czech friends!

Mirek

2nd July 2014, 17:18

The only negative thing is that I won't be there since the date clashes with my annual attendance on one rock festival :p

polo10

2nd July 2014, 17:18

Very spectacular!

By the way if anyone wants to see Fabia R5 testcar live he can go to Rally Bohemia next week. Lappi shall drive it as zero car.
With the old bodyshell,correct?

Mirek

2nd July 2014, 17:19

Sure

2nd July 2014, 17:22

Are they also sending Kopecky with a Fabia S2000 so they can do a back-to-back over the whole event?

I guess this will force Skoda to finally admit the test car exists!

Mirek

2nd July 2014, 18:02

Yes, Kopecký, Scandola and Wiegand with S2000!

mousti

2nd July 2014, 18:47

Only Skoda.be is missing :p

2nd July 2014, 20:04

Only Skoda.be is missing :p

Maybe Freddy can drive the R5 on Barum?

Mirek

2nd July 2014, 20:36

Unfortunately I'm almost certain that this option was already abandoned...

2nd July 2014, 21:21

Unfortunately I'm almost certain that this option was already abandoned...

Not even the test mule??

Mirek

2nd July 2014, 21:34

I meant Freddy not the presence of the car alone. That certainly is possible.

2nd July 2014, 22:07

I thought Freddy was an/the official test driver?

If they are running it on Bohemia I would expect it on Barum too, but not sure who with as Lappi and Wiegand will certainly drive the rally and I guess Kopecky too. Baumschlager?

Sulland

2nd July 2014, 22:09

Skoda is following the same recepie as with the S2000 and VW in the development of their 'Panzerwagen' Polo WRC.
A lot of testing, development, more testing, development, testing last development and then Launch and use by Skoda Motorsport, and then start to sell it.

A bit different than the Ford and the PSA twins. But it has been working perfectly in the past, so lets see this time around.

HarriK

2nd July 2014, 22:40

3rd July 2014, 07:06

or maybe they change that Lappi now and Kopecky then in R5.

I think they will want to have their strongest drivers competing at Barum to make sure they win their home rally.

3rd July 2014, 21:16

More Fabia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhVIqMRr5b8

HarriK

3rd July 2014, 21:25

Lappi was driving today, one short video on Youtube.

3rd July 2014, 21:38

Knowing problems others have had with R5 reliability on rough surfaces, maybe Skoda are spending more time than normal in Greece.

Mirek

4th July 2014, 13:01

Some more photos of Fabia III stock mule. Still with stickers but general lines are visible. Looks like first generation with sharp edges to me.

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/all-new-skoda-fabia-undergoing-testing-in-the-alps-83397.html

http://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/all-new-skoda-fabia-undergoing-testing-in-the-alps_5.jpg

dimviii

4th July 2014, 13:03

with wide fenders and bumpers will be much better/aggressive than the current one.

4th July 2014, 14:44

The current Fabia S2000 in tarmac spec is a nice looking car, but I think this Fabia3 will be a much better starting point :)

Mirek

4th July 2014, 15:46

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU7iBJo9DiU

dimviii

4th July 2014, 15:49

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QU7iBJo9DiU

same stage as the test with polo i had visit.

4th July 2014, 21:25

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGz_bdiomGo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wty5v0ah1J8

The car looks to be working well; Fabia S2000 looks quick too but the revvy sound probably gives an illusion it is quicker than it really is.

The R5 cars sound best when they are revving high or hit the rev limiter.

nafpaktos

7th July 2014, 22:47

In the last issue of motorsport monday you can read the excuses of Peugeot sport director about the reliability problems of t16!what do you think?????

7th July 2014, 23:46

In the last issue of motorsport monday you can read the excuses of Peugeot sport director about the reliability problems of t16!what do you think?????

"It wasn't me, honest"

Nice article about the Skoda 130RS in that issue too :)

dimviii

8th July 2014, 00:09

Capito talks about fans fear to ''destroy the sport''
must be reading here.

8th July 2014, 11:34

Lappi confirmed for Bohemia:

As well as its historic significance, this year’s Rally Bohemia is also important to ŠKODA in terms of the brand’s future motorsport activities. The current European Championship leader and ŠKODA works driver Esapekka Lappi will test the new 1.6-litre turbo engine for the new ŠKODA Fabia R 5 under race conditions for the first time. This is the car, with which ŠKODA will compete in the R5 category at international rallies as of 2015. Lappi will complete the test on selected stretches of the Rally Bohemia route in a ŠKODA Fabia Super 2000 fitted with the new engine.

In accordance with FIA regulations, the new R5 rally car is equipped with a 1.6-litre turbo engine. “The development of the Fabia R 5 is progressing nicely. We are on schedule,” said ŠKODA Motorsport Director Michal Hrabánek. “The first test under competitive conditions is a big step towards achieving homologation by mid-2015,” said Hrabánek.

manthey

8th July 2014, 13:37

other colours of fabia 3 spy pics

http://paultan.org/2014/07/04/spied-next-skoda-fabia/skoda-fabia-3-3/

11th July 2014, 19:38

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsRlKrGIEAAJoFl.jpg

https://vine.co/v/Mxm1D3XJZ57

13th July 2014, 22:54

Fabia on Bohemia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xogo80gJFnc

Andre Oliveira

14th July 2014, 22:06

Lukasz Habaj, PX14 HVB -> Chassis 71

Andre Oliveira

15th July 2014, 13:35

Miguel Campos 2003 ERC runner-up will debut 208 T16 of P.A. Racing at Rali Vinho Madeira

nafpaktos

15th July 2014, 13:56

I thought (actually i have read it on motorsport monday) that Peugeot stopped delivering cars for a while.

Tom206wrc

15th July 2014, 15:54

I thought (actually i have read it on motorsport monday) that Peugeot stopped delivering cars for a while.

:confused:

Francis44

15th July 2014, 18:22

Miguel Campos 2003 ERC runner-up will debut 208 T16 of P.A. Racing at Rali Vinho Madeira

I am almost sure that in some days when it's time to ship the cars to Funchal Miguel Campos will give some odd explanation on how he will not be able to start. As much as I respect Campos unfortunately most of his last projects end up amounting to nothing.

nafpaktos

16th July 2014, 02:42

:confused:
Sorry for the misconception.let me rephrase.will campos compete with a new 208?i ask because peugeot freezed for a while the delivering of 208,until they solve some reliability issues.

pantealex

16th July 2014, 12:25

I thought (actually i have read it on motorsport monday) that Peugeot stopped delivering cars for a while.

Kruuda got new shell for ERC Estonia ;)

Andre Oliveira

16th July 2014, 16:30

Tagai have 2 cars

Andre Oliveira

17th July 2014, 01:55

Bouffier (Fiesta), Basso (Fiesta LPG), Campos (208), Michelini (DS3), Moura (Fiesta), Barros (Fiesta), Salvi (Fiesta) and maybe Magalhães (208) August 1st at Rali Vinho da Madeira

17th July 2014, 12:55

Fabia 3 road car first official sketch and info: http://skoda-auto.com/en/news/Pages/2014-07-17-new-fabia.aspx

Mirek

17th July 2014, 13:09

17th July 2014, 14:05

The most important for us is +90 mm width and -30 mm height :)

Ron, for You more info (engines, equipment, boot space). You can use google translator I think. What is strange is that the article claims no RS planned...

http://auto.idnes.cz/nova-skoda-fabia-skica-0uj-/ak_aktual.aspx?c=A140717_000353_ak_aktual_fdv

Thanks Mirek.

That makes the road car much nicer proportioned, although for the rally car it could look less extreme than the current S2000 because the arches won't have to be so extended.

So you believe there will be an RS version?

Mirek

17th July 2014, 14:57

I have no idea.

EightGear

19th July 2014, 20:20

From Kevin Abbring's Facebook:

"Great progress with the Peugeot 208 T16! 900km flat out with absolutely no issues at all! Yet another promising R5 development test. Track temperatures up to 48 degrees! Merci Loïc Petitjean et Florian Beschet pour les photos!"

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/53cab725c614c/53cab725b76e6-abbringtest1.jpg
http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/53cab72fd130f/53cab72fc0d5b-abbringtest4.jpg
http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads7/53cab73c06e4c/53cab73beaada-abbringtest5.jpg

Tom206wrc

23rd July 2014, 03:28

Bruno Magalhaes will at last receive his 208 T16 for Rali Vinho da Madeira(on start august) :)

Tom206wrc

23rd July 2014, 03:29

Bouffier (Fiesta), Basso (Fiesta LPG), Campos (208), Michelini (DS3), Moura (Fiesta), Barros (Fiesta), Salvi (Fiesta) and maybe Magalhães (208) August 1st at Rali Vinho da Madeira

Unfortunately all foreigners will be absent from Rali Vinho da Madeira :(

Tom206wrc

28th July 2014, 03:59

Miguel Campos livery on http://www.sportmotores.com/ ;)

Wim_Impreza

28th July 2014, 09:49

Unfortunately all foreigners will be absent from Rali Vinho da Madeira :(

Don't be disappointed. Portuguese people always talk the last years that there will be (a lot of) famous foreign drivers at this rally and when you see the start list, there aren't (that much) foreign drivers in this rally.

Francis44

28th July 2014, 10:25

Don't be disappointed. Portuguese people always talk the last years that there will be (a lot of) famous foreign drivers at this rally and when you see the start list, there aren't (that much) foreign drivers in this rally.

That's the case with organizers from the Islands. In the main lands you wont hear that from them.

PLuto

28th July 2014, 14:43

Problem for island events is big costs for foreign teams. And not only money costs, but also time costs...

Andre Oliveira

28th July 2014, 20:57

Bruno Magalhães

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10515198_882124168483078_1449054591503981883_o.jpg

Andre Oliveira

28th July 2014, 21:03

Bernardo Sousa

https://scontent-a-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10312474_10154598899645413_201022473368607253_n.jp g?oh=7c550932cafc9bce3b11fe002345ed69&oe=54473E22

Francis44

28th July 2014, 21:34

Problem for island events is big costs for foreign teams. And not only money costs, but also time costs...

Everyone knows this already, the problem exists for years. In the particular case of Madeira the problem had a pretty easy solution but politics and interests took the best of it.

Mirek

28th July 2014, 22:23

Everyone knows this already, the problem exists for years. In the particular case of Madeira the problem had a pretty easy solution but politics and interests took the best of it.

Do You mean moving the island closer to Europe? You can not solve the issue of huge time which is needed for these events - a time when the car is not available for the team particularly.

Francis44

28th July 2014, 22:51

Do You mean moving the island closer to Europe? You can not solve the issue of huge time which is needed for these events - a time when the car is not available for the team particularly.

No, back when the ferry was available the cars would only spend one week on the Island including transport times from and to the mainland. And correct me if Im wrong but that would make the time needed for the trip the same as any team going to the Algarve for Rally Portugal.

PLuto

28th July 2014, 23:15

Francis44

28th July 2014, 23:22

Easy calculations - for us it is 3500 kms from Czech to the port in Portugal, which means 3 days for one trip. Ferry is usually going one and half week before the rally and leaving immediatelly after rally, but then going few days back. In total, it is almost three weeks out of home for mechanics and cars...

That's alot for sure. However the introduction of a ferry departing SundaY morning the week of the rally would make for much less days wasted on trip.

PLuto

29th July 2014, 00:01

That's alot for sure. However the introduction of a ferry departing SundaY morning the week of the rally would make for much less days wasted on trip.

It is not easy as you must have reserve for bad weather. It is not unusual that ferry is finishing the trip later than expected...

RICARDO75

29th July 2014, 04:31

That's alot for sure. However the introduction of a ferry departing SundaY morning the week of the rally would make for much less days wasted on trip.

To leave on Sunday morning for the Azores Rally is impossible. The trip takes 3 days and the cars need to arrive at the scene on Sunday before the week's rally. On sunday and monday the teams do their test, Tuesday and Wednesday are for reece and the rally takes place between Thursday and Saturday. It´s 6 days for transportation on the ocean

Andre Oliveira

29th July 2014, 11:05

https://fbcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-0/10559808_10203803298098323_4592763673899328820_n.j pg

Andre Oliveira

29th July 2014, 11:12

https://fbcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-0/10534088_834136343266130_6130773662807828360_n.jpg ?oh=7bb7132d0b4d498aa752c08d09337b69&oe=543D9774&__gda__=1413866270_711e5a194c6b3c007a30c1a1cf8f405 e

Andre Oliveira

29th July 2014, 13:54

https://fbcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-0/10568865_872349516110076_148728356289813121_n.jpg? oh=7c1ba58e19e9a0c517d5c46be0f62d86&oe=54507F50&__gda__=1412690029_2c558c7ac6eeb557f63f08b6aa0ea49 a

HaCo

29th July 2014, 16:49

Both livery's look nice!

Andre Oliveira

29th July 2014, 17:57

https://fbcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-0/10525859_10154602396940413_8361593645567606241_n.j pg

Andre Oliveira

29th July 2014, 20:35

https://fbcdn-photos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-0/1017456_738326316230767_1371291468704449774_n.jpg? oh=4b8424793f7b977c9dc80306b7d1b108&oe=544BAF4C&__gda__=1412971889_3c7d1b2f555f7b19f8e3f6e0c890ca9 4

Andre Oliveira

29th July 2014, 21:02

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/test_rali_vinho_da_madeira_2014/mmo_2.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/test_rali_vinho_da_madeira_2014/mmo_3.jpg

Andre Oliveira

29th July 2014, 21:30

Tests Bruno Magalhães (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxNL9g5thNw)

Andre Oliveira

29th July 2014, 21:32

More photos here (http://www.maisralis.com/2014/07/testes-bruno-magalhaes-peugeot-207-t16.html)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Q-gevSQgcEU/U9fyZwOJXPI/AAAAAAAAda0/ByTV4LOqLZ4/s1600/IMG_1469.png

Andre Oliveira

29th July 2014, 21:42

Munaretto have one too

https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/10500323_729705857090040_2885918900767129970_n.jpg
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/9292_729705863756706_9210723746985137025_n.jpg?oh= 6bb85aaea56e4c101fb84f140e1ff954&oe=544E6C3B&__gda__=1412842210_341a643a68d958f3d917be544fa1cb9 a
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1610777_729705860423373_7180819425871216589_n.jpg? oh=2364211f1b9a6ce369b35f7c72b092e5&oe=544F14F7

Andre Oliveira

29th July 2014, 22:30

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10557462_10154603208230413_7789755185453408378_n.j pg

29th July 2014, 22:49

Tests Bruno Magalhães (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxNL9g5thNw)

I quite like the loud, raspy bark of the 208/DS3 R5, but they seem to be bereft of almost any turbo noises at all.. are they not running anti-lag still?

Andre Oliveira

30th July 2014, 21:02

New hood deco to Moura

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2014/photos/test_rali_vinho_da_madeira_2014/mmo_1.jpg

Andre Oliveira

31st July 2014, 00:18

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/10501934_308150002679603_7381515705908236594_n.jpg

Andre Oliveira

31st July 2014, 23:42

Rumour on Madeira, that Team Vespas will buy the Fiesta R5 (Bernardo Sousa) to Alexandre Camacho.

Mirek

1st August 2014, 23:47

Very strange front damper position in Fabia R5. Looks like it is almost vertical but placed behind the upright...

http://img12.rajce.idnes.cz/d1201/10/10196/10196157_49fce4659c6708ea90071ce7329cff96/images/047.jpg?ver=2

Source and more photos: http://bandy3.rajce.idnes.cz/Test_SM_R5_-_Moravsky_Karlov_1.8.2014_R.Baumschlager/#

2nd August 2014, 00:05

Very strange front damper position in Fabia R5. Looks like it is almost vertical but placed behind the upright...

Any theories?

Maybe to prevent nose dive under braking or something?

Could look weirder than it actually is due to running old bodyshell.

stefanvv

2nd August 2014, 00:23

Maybe to prevent nose dive under braking or something?

My theory is that is exactly what will happen.

Mirek

2nd August 2014, 00:56

Hmm... I'm no suspension expert but vertical position always very much limits the length of damper which is bad for it's function in rallying (except smooth asphalts). Placing behind the upright is probably for making it longer than if it was upon the driveshaft in the middle.

makinen_fan

2nd August 2014, 07:31

Good find Mirek.
In this photo it seems there is some angle, but it is weird. points backwards a bit and (maybe???) outwards

the technical regulations for R5 demand that some of the suspension components to be the same for all 4 corners (uprights I think) so maybe it is an overall compromise
Also, maybe there is a restriction in the suspension mounting points in the new Fabia, are they allowed to modify those under R5 regs?

http://img12.rajce.idnes.cz/d1201/10/10196/10196157_49fce4659c6708ea90071ce7329cff96/images/039.jpg?ver=2

Mirek

2nd August 2014, 08:29

It's not my find but of one other guy from our Czech forum ;) I don't know about R5 regs, sorry...

2nd August 2014, 20:19

Baumschlager: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZGajEnrKZs

Suspension travel on the front seems to be good.

4th August 2014, 15:21

The video of Baumschlager above makes me think they either use a much more aggressive engine map for loose surfaces, or that Lappi had the engine "turned down" on Bohemia.

On Bohemia the car sounded fairly quiet, whereas with Baumschlager it is making a lot of noise. Some of that will be the greater revs due to the lack of traction on loose surfaces, but the chirrups and squeaks and anti lag burbles all sound louder on the Baumschlager video too.

Mirek

4th August 2014, 15:47

Baumschlager: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZGajEnrKZs

Suspension travel on the front seems to be good.

How can You judge suspension travel when there is no crest/jump on the video?

HarriK

4th August 2014, 18:27

4th August 2014, 20:13

How can You judge suspension travel when there is no crest/jump on the video?

At 0:18 for example..

Also here, when we all missed the "weird" setup of the front suspension:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWFoVmRGSS4

had_zachau

7th August 2014, 23:07

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=710124645690279

Mirek

7th August 2014, 23:32

Doesn't work for me :(

polo10

8th August 2014, 01:04

Fantastic

Mirek

8th August 2014, 10:38

Great video of Kopecký with Fabia R5 on one of our best stages - Malonty. Very spectacular!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuNUUyOE4aE

One point... it doesn't fly nose-up like on older videos from Finland.

8th August 2014, 11:23

It's the same as the video on facebook.. the car flies and lands really nice.

Looks like a pre-barum test then.

Mirek

8th August 2014, 12:46

Aha, the link to facebook didn't work for me.

sete

8th August 2014, 13:02

try this link Mirek
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=24893&title=test-fabia-r5-video-od-vft

makinen_fan

8th August 2014, 13:41

try this link Mirek
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php?id=24893&title=test-fabia-r5-video-od-vft

same video as Mirek posted above.

Really nice, seems very well balanced. Especially its sound is way better as any other R5, it reminds me of early WRC cars.

8th August 2014, 15:22

Looking at this video I cannot believe they will keep us waiting for nearly another year to see this car hit the stages as Skoda claim.

HaCo

8th August 2014, 18:03

Looking at this video I cannot believe they will keep us waiting for nearly another year to see this car hit the stages as Skoda claim.

Let us hope at least the car is homologated before Ypres!

8th August 2014, 20:08

More Fabia; with static cameras but the sound is great echoing amongst the trees!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZF9cYrW7EW8

Andre Oliveira

8th August 2014, 22:00

Now we have chassis 1-77 of Fiesta R5 on ewrc-results (http://ewrc-results.com/carinfo.php?cid=47&spz=2132&t=Ford-Fiesta-R5), only have to know the TK 3143L (should be the 49, and 68 that still unknown :)

Go go Mr.Wilson, 77 cars ;)

liposh

8th August 2014, 22:43

Let us hope at least the car is homologated before Ypres!

Baumschlager said in interview after Janner rally it should be ready during April. In my opinion they are "on time" so it should be April. Does anybody know more info?

Mirek

8th August 2014, 22:58

The logical homologation date which I think everybody counts with is 1st March.

WUff1

10th August 2014, 16:43

Raimund Baumschlager about his future as a rally driver after winning Austrian championship for the 12th time - no more focus on Austrian championship, but on testing Fabia R5 and more international appearances (maybe South African championship?).

http://www.motorline.cc/rallye/oem/2014/Rallye-%25D6M/ORM-Rallye-Weiz-Raimund-Baumschlager-im-Staatsmeister-Interview-189910.html

11th August 2014, 17:36

Raimund Baumschlager about his future as a rally driver after winning Austrian championship for the 12th time - no more focus on Austrian championship, but on testing Fabia R5 and more international appearances (maybe South African championship?).

I would like to see BRR back in ERC with a "Red Bull Junior Team" to develop young drivers.

Besides, Fabias always looked good in Red Bull colours :)

Ondra WRC

11th August 2014, 21:26

My photos from test Škoda Fabia R5 (Lappi and Kopecky): http://www.motolevel.com/fotogalerie-13386-test-skoda-fabia-r5-skoda-motorsport-2014

skarderud

17th August 2014, 00:18

The swedish mitsubishi mirage R5 is going to be driven on some rallyday in the UK soon.

Andre Oliveira

18th August 2014, 02:44

What car or from which team were Oleksiy Kikireshko's Fiesta R5 at Finland?

eib1

18th August 2014, 07:08

MM Motorsport

Sulland

18th August 2014, 09:59

The swedish mitsubishi mirage R5 is going to be driven on some rallyday in the UK soon.

http://www.rallyday.com/9-rallyday-news/97-rallyday-chosen-for-official-launch-of-mitsubishi-r5

Mirek

18th August 2014, 21:28

During the last few days škoda revealed photos of detail parts of new Fabia. Every day one detail. They have hardly anything left now so the car must come out very soon. Why they chose to reveal the bits now? For me the only answer is to reveal the Fabia before Barum rally and present the real R5 there. Maybe I'm wrong but it looks very possible. Also sacrificing kopecký for running a zero car may mean they want to have it big...

18th August 2014, 21:53

Full fabia photo tomorrow morning 8am.

Mirek

19th August 2014, 09:26

Stock one is out

http://img.auto.cz/news/img/galleries/2014-34/skfa20_53f2816230954.jpg
http://img.auto.cz/news/img/galleries/2014-34/skfa40_53f281626496d.jpg

http://www.auto.cz/skoda-fabia-iii-prvni-oficialni-fotografie-celeho-vozu-combi-82691

19th August 2014, 09:41

Much better :)

I hope you are right Mirek about the R5 on Barum, but I have my doubts still.. I think they had to show some official photos now because full production of the road car starts next week.

Andre Oliveira

19th August 2014, 14:37

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Chassis 3, 18, 37 or 38?

eib1

19th August 2014, 15:50

Chassis 3, 18, 37 or 38?

SP 0343 | chassis #38

http://nikop.kuvat.fi/kuvat/2014/Neste%20Oil%20Rally%20Finland/IMG_0829%20copy.jpg/_full.jpg

Andre Oliveira

19th August 2014, 21:29

Thanks :)

eib1

19th August 2014, 22:09

chassis 18 is for sale btw
http://www.mm-motorsport.ee/brand-new-ford-fiesta-r5

br21

21st August 2014, 21:23

I had few Fiestas R5 on dyno this week. In general they reach something like 300hp and 400Nm...

Munkvy

21st August 2014, 22:31

I had few Fiestas R5 on dyno this week. In general they reach something like 300hp and 400Nm...

How does that compare with an RRC/WRC? And what do the torque curves look like compared to say a Group N or a current WRC?

I assume this is a hub dyno, not rolling road?

br21

22nd August 2014, 11:08

I don't know dyno charts from current WRC, so can't compare. Curves are more or less similar to gp N, of course restrictor in R5 is smaller so car chokes a little.
It was hub dyno, as only to check in general how it looks, compare fuels, etc.