Rally2 (ex-R5) News

[er88]

Maybe so... M-Sport did put all their efforts into the WRC car for Ogier in the last two years.

Not surprising if the new R5 is undercooked.Who's the (new) guy who has been in charge of it? Read somewhere it was the first time he'd been tasked with the build/design/development of the new r5.

[Mirek]

Bernardo Fernandes

[dimviii]

Bernardo Fernandes

previous works?

[Mirek]

He was raised in M-Sport.

[Andre Oliveira]

Roger Rustand

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ECqknvPXUAAdt7R?format=jpg&name=small

[kiil]

That's a nice oldschool livery on Grondal's new Fiesta R5:
https://www.rallygrimstad.no/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/DSC_0013.jpg

That's not a new Fiesta R5

[Sulland]

That's not a new Fiesta R5

No thats the old one, but this is the new one on his FB page
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=605995234

[Jarek Z]

Anders Grøndal did the first test with his new fiesta R5 mk2 today, ready for this weekends rally Grimstad on tarmac.

I have just checked out the results of Rally Grimstad. Grøndal and his new Fiesta finished in the second position, 49 seconds behind Veiby. Veiby won 7 out of 8 stages, Grøndal managed to win 1 stage only.

Final results:
http://www.sprintrally.no/resultater_ss_tom/50?ss=9&use_template=empty

[RS]

I have just checked out the results of Rally Grimstad. Grøndal and his new Fiesta finished in the second position, 49 seconds behind Veiby. Veiby won 7 out of 8 stages, Grøndal managed to win 1 stage only.

Final results:
http://www.sprintrally.no/resultater_ss_tom/50?ss=9&use_template=empty

Is Grondal comparable to Veiby on tarmac though?

[Andre Oliveira]

Grøndal is better imho. The car needs a lot of work.

[Mirek]

Grøndal is better imho.

No

[pantealex]

Grøndal is better imho. The car needs a lot of work.

No. Yes.

[Sulland]

Mads in Germany tried something new. He went back to a trick he used when he was "youth-rallying in sweden in a Volvo 740.

Since he do not have brake balance adjustment in the C3 R5, he put on close to worn out brake pads at the front, since the car braked way to much on the fornt axle, to get closer to the balance front/rear he was looking for. Smart thinking!

Does any of the R5s come with adjustable brake balance. or is it not allowed in R5?

[Mirek]

Br21 can for sure tell us exactly but Pavel Dresler told me that Fabia also has no brake balance regulation. Likely not allowed by the rules. Otherwise I don't know the reason.

[dimviii]

Mads in Germany tried something new. He went back to a trick he used when he was "youth-rallying in sweden in a Volvo 740.

Since he do not have brake balance adjustment in the C3 R5, he put on close to worn out brake pads at the front, since the car braked way to much on the fornt axle, to get closer to the balance front/rear he was looking for. Smart thinking!

Does any of the R5s come with adjustable brake balance. or is it not allowed in R5?

this is not something new or strange.Even at track day cars its something common.
at my evo 8 i use carbotech xp 10 at front,and carbotech xp8 at rear.
Xp10 have a higher friction than xp8

[mousti]

Pieter Tsjoen Racing received their 2 Fabia R5 Evo. He will debut it next weekend in the Omloop van Vlaanderen.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190828/b18d7e4cc586b3f356a74ca39bf0eae5.jpg

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[Mirek]

The one on the right side isn't Evo.

[mousti]

The one on the right side isn't Evo.Yes seems I got blindsided a bit

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[br21]

Brake balance adjuster is allowed, but now more and more cars have only one brake master cylinder for both front and rear brakes, so obviously there is no way to adjust the bias. Fabia for example has such solution (two way pump, similar like gpN homologated for handbrake in Lancer Evo cars).

[Sulland]

What are the pros and cons when the factories choose to go away from possibility for driver to adjust brake balance?

[Oops!]

The Fiesta has a bias valve anyway, it's mounted right in front of the drivers seat.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.latercera.com/mtonline/noticia/beto-heller-ford-fiesta-r5-m-sport/802360/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDK-1zuXUAIFrxQ?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EDmr7loWsAALWS5?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Andre Oliveira]

Chassis 13 to Luís Rocha (PRT)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ED3XsL5WkAIQ44i?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

First win

https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/56601-rally-tron-2019/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ED3mnFOXoAABzPt?format=jpg&name=medium

[Ucci]

First win

https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/56601-rally-tron-2019/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ED3mnFOXoAABzPt?format=jpg&name=medium

Well, this is a bad consolation and even less a reason for celebration-less than 30 km stages, without serious competition...I'm still waiting for first win on a national level or even better-on the international scene.

[Mirek]

Demaerschalk was close to first victory yesterday in Belgium (after Fernémont retired). Bedoret was faster after all.

[Jarek Z]

Well, this is a bad consolation and even less a reason for celebration-less than 30 km stages, without serious competition...

Exactly. Against such competition anybody would win :)

[Mirek]

At least it looks like the competition in R5 is getting closer. Basically all recent cars can win at least somewhere (I don't count Proton). That's sure good news.

[Jarek Z]

Yes, it seems Skoda, Ford, Citroen and Volkswagen are all winning cars.

[AnttiL]

Fiesta Mk2 had winning pace with Campedelli in Italy, but both times punctures ruined the rally

[PLuto]

At least it looks like the competition in R5 is getting closer. Basically all recent cars can win at least somewhere (I don't count Proton). That's sure good news.

Ollie Mellors won with Proton Iriz R5 in Woodpecker Stages Rally. Not the highest level, but better starting field than in Norway...

[Jarek Z]

Ollie Mellors won with Proton Iriz R5 in Woodpecker Stages Rally. Not the highest level, but better starting field than in Norway...

At least in terms of quantity - there are 111 crews at the finish line (see page 3) :)
https://www.woodpecker-rally.co.uk/download/Results-2019.pdf

[Jarek Z]

The new Proton looks better in orange :)
https://paultan.org/2019/09/03/proton-iriz-r5-wins-woodpecker-stage-rally-2019/

[tommeke_B]

Very good pace from the new Fiesta R5 with Demaerschalk behind the wheel at Omloop van Vlaanderen. The stages are very similar to those in Ypres (a part of one stage has actually been used for Ypres in the past). The engine seems to be working very well, lots of torque as it seems, very good exit from junctions. In terms of suspension it doesn't seem as stable as the Fabia yet, but looks already better than the previous Fiesta. And not important, but it's a very nice looking and sounding car, quite different from all other R5 cars. Very promising debut in Belgium, huge contrast to what the car has shown in WRC so far. Can't wait until the car is more defined and the drivers/teams start to get more experience with it. Next event for Demaerschalk is Condroz.

https://scontent.fbru2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70124727_3374138075931388_5316074343032160256_o.jp g?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQmYKcHryMyKh2RV5WOLz7PBMoLz3kYgKZzX6pQjH_7 wgicDcHszLLI2I1VB63Tj1I96s8GaDC2-IR5vA76n_NMx&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru2-1.fna&oh=e38107f79bc698cff2ca536ed6165ea0&oe=5E010AA1

https://scontent.fbru2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/70009380_3374137805931415_7338755174942375936_o.jp g?_nc_cat=103&_nc_oc=AQlafP6yi-bOmGRG7FGPM52c-Ck7nQunLCodEySVNftKtTM7IrkysdXJlQErCKi5L5P0c1hlDsY lLfeTI8IhBD3i&_nc_ht=scontent.fbru2-1.fna&oh=b051ad03bb15578611398b8442e85f68&oe=5DF2EA6F

[the sniper]

The new Proton looks better in orange :)
https://paultan.org/2019/09/03/proton-iriz-r5-wins-woodpecker-stage-rally-2019/

Good to see it confirmed that it was running to FIA compliant spec here. There have been questions over what restrictor they were running on past rallies.

I'm rather bemused by what's going on with this Proton program. Surely there must have been some Proton money involved in it's development, as I can't think that MEM funded it alone, particularly with the likes of Gronholm having tested it. It seems to be reasonably quick in the hands of Ollie Mellors, who I don't think is the fastest driver in this country (hard to tell though, with most of his rallying having been done in the Proton S2000 competing against no other S2000s). There seems to be huge fan interest from Malaysia in particular! Search Proton R5 and you'll see all the views it gets. There's a British Rally Media test media with nearly 110k views. My own 14 second video of it from Goodwood in 2017 got 15k views, nearly 15k more than most of my other videos... 53% of which were Malaysian (next country Portugal at 6%).

So anyway, I'd love to know where this program is going. At this rate I fear nowhere, but seemingly reasonably quickly...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame Marty McCormack didnt use the Iriz R5 on Rally Bae Ceredigeon as was on the original entry list...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another Mk2 in Turkey
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEL2TrIXYAIDpEB?format=jpg&name=medium

[Oops!]

Not sure what is going on with the Irish Iriz seems to not start quite a few events its entered in.

It's giving plenty of trouble....

[Andre Oliveira]

Chassis 14 to Enrique García Ojeda (KRS)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEhmB0nX4AE8vg_?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEnRHaMXsAMlsiQ?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEnRHaPW4AgU1Fu?format=jpg&name=mediumhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/EEnLxFLWkAIrzVZ?format=jpg&name=medium

[Jarek Z]

Beautiful livery!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Beautiful livery!

Like the old John Player Special ! :)

[Jarek Z]

Exactly! :)

http://performancecomms.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/lotus-jps.jpg

[dimviii]

ŠKODA Motorsport
@MotorsportSkoda
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300 #SKODA R5 cars delivered so far: #ŠKODA Motorsport director Michal Hrabánek (right) handed over together with Šárka Králová (customer support) the 300th rally car, a ŠKODA FABIA R5 evo, to Eero Räikkönen, Team Principal of @PrintsportFI
@eWRCresults
@OfficialWRC
#WRClive


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EErEWctWwAEQ9qV?format=jpg&name=small

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Jarek, a JPS livery - some rally fan has thought of it before... ;)

https://www.tradingpaints.com/showroom/pictures/132303/1.jpg?d=1568732653

[pantealex]

300 #SKODA R5 cars delivered so far: #ŠKODA Motorsport director Michal Hrabánek (right) handed over together with Šárka Králová (customer support) the 300th rally car, a ŠKODA FABIA R5 evo, to Eero Räikkönen, Team Principal of @PrintsportFI
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EErEWctWwAEQ9qV?format=jpg&name=small

Totally 23th Fabia for Printsport (and they have 3 Polo R5 also)

Has some team picked more R5´s ?

[Mirek]

Second Polo for Štajf's team.
https://www.ewrc.cz/clanek/34236-racing-21-prevzal-druhe-polo-gti-r5/

[Hartusvuori]

Totally 23th Fabia for Printsport (and they have 3 Polo R5 also)

Has some team picked more R5´s ?

In Skoda Motorsport Finland's press release, customer program manager Šárka Králová says no one else has bought as many Fabia R5s as Eero and he is in top 3 of Skoda Motorsport customers that have used the most money.

[Andre Oliveira]

#14 KRS (Enrique García Ojeda Team)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EE7AkgeXkAAI_W_?format=jpg&name=medium

[peg306]

Mattias Ekström goes rallying for 2020 in a Fabia R5 :) it doesn’t say where and how but still looking forward to it!
https://m.facebook.com/notes/eks/eks-goes-rallying-for-2020/1145154432343379/

[pantealex]

Mattias Ekström goes rallying for 2020 in a Fabia R5 :) it doesn’t say where and how but still looking forward to it!
https://m.facebook.com/notes/eks/eks-goes-rallying-for-2020/1145154432343379/

EKS team is going, not Mattias himself as only driver. Probably 2 cars attack on ERC and/or WRC2 level.

[dimviii]

Today (Tuesday, September 24) the first of four test days was held that Hyundai Motorsport planned to evaluate the effectiveness of the developments developed for the i20 in the R5 version. The start of this intense test program was Andrea Crugnola who traveled about 250 kilometers on the asphalt around Mazamet (south of France).

The driver from Varese worked closely with the engineers of the Korean company, focusing above all on the new suspensions that immediately appeared extremely fast and effective. What is the antechamber of an ongoing collaboration? For now, nothing is decided.

Certainly an excellent opportunity for Crugnola, which is not new to these types of activities anyway: already Citroen Racing and Renault Sport have involved it several times in the development tests of DS3 and Clio R3T in the past years. Now it's up to Craig Breen, who starting tomorrow will continue the work started by Italian.
https://www.rallyeslalom.com/crugnola-coinvolto-nei-test-di-sviluppo-della-hyundai-i20-r5/

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFqOEsnXkAYm0QC?format=jpg&name=medium

[Rally Power]

Important wins in France and Spain for the C3 R5 during last weekend: Bonato won Rallye Couer de France on a close figth with the current series leader Rossel (also on a C3); Lopez won Rally Villa de Llanes and is, alongside Hyundai drivers Ares and Pernia, on the title bid.

[Mise]

So do we say the big 3 or the big 2. Is the new Fiesta fast enuff?

[Jarek Z]

Is the new Fiesta fast enuff?

I'm not convinced yet. How many wins did it have so far?

[RS]

So do we say the big 3 or the big 2. Is the new Fiesta fast enuff?

Not yet I think. It set some better times in Wales but I guess they did a lot of the testing on similar roads and Greensmith/Paddon should have been a strong lineup for that event.

Turkey I don’t really consider as that was a who-can-get-the-least-punctures competition.

[mousti]

Moffett family seems to have bought a Polo R5.

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[prpr]

No, only hired for Donegal Harvest Rally, same Dom Buckley Motorsport car used by Marty McCormick to win Cork 20.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Donagh Kelly is also in a VW Polo on the Donegal Harvest Rally.

https://scontent.flhr3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/71896909_2531392216921781_4745121207681024000_n.jp g?_nc_cat=103&_nc_oc=AQmsBfyLk64CZHIODNZDdF7-Xn-5Od4PdivJJ6BdtetDekqbbZCOZESafjgU7oS8yH4&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr3-1.fna&oh=6fc5d1573f36116fdd2990c775141a17&oe=5E197E4F

And look who's also there ...
https://www.facebook.com/DonegalHarvestRally/videos/1464163700335976/UzpfSTI5MjYwNjc0MDgyNTAxNzoyNTU1ODQ3MzI3ODM0MjY5/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rally du Valli - second place for Campedelli in the Mk2 Fiesta R5, just 11s behind the Polo of Crugnola...

https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/54879-rally-due-valli-2019/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Gryazin stayed in the UK after Rally GB and compared his Fabia with a Polo, and then testsed a Fiesta R5 Mk2...

https://gryazin.com/tests_vw_polo_fiesta_r5

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1184428006833623040

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1184435945719980032

[RS]

Gryazin stayed in the UK after Rally GB and compared his Fabia with a Polo, and then testsed a Fiesta R5 Mk2...

https://gryazin.com/tests_vw_polo_fiesta_r5

I suspect it was useful for MSport engineers to get the insight of someone who had just driven Polo and Fabia Evo, and interesting for us to hear in depth and honest opinions too.

Sounds like Fiesta is fundamentally good but might be difficult to get the right setup for any given condition.

Will be interesting to see how Camilli goes in the C3 in Spain having been rather disappointing in the Fiesta in Finland & Germany.

[Mirek]

It looks more and more that the disasterous performance in Estonia and Finland was about improper/not enough preparations for the two events. The damage was done however.

[dimviii]

Βouffier testing r5 i 20
https://twitter.com/hervetusoli/status/1185159585755291653

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1185125870400430080

https://youtu.be/tHMKZmso_4g

[RS]

It looks more and more that the disasterous performance in Estonia and Finland was about improper/not enough preparations for the two events. The damage was done however.

And Germany.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It looks more and more that the disasterous performance in Estonia and Finland was about improper/not enough preparations for the two events. The damage was done however.

We didnt write-off the new Fiesta after the first couple of events so prospective buyers wont have either.

[Tarmop]

Well, they didn`t but those who wanted to buy one at the given moment, probably opted for a proven car...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I dont think anyone would buy any brand new, just released, R5 if they wanted a totally proven car.

Look at the latest such as the i20 R5, C3 R5 & Polo R5 - which of them was a proven winner out of the box ?

Most need a while to shakedown all the faults and gremlins and to find the best set-ups...

[pantealex]

Fabia EVO was fast and reliable straight out of box...

Because it´s looks very much same than before you tend to forget that has different homologation numbers than before.

Pretty sure that because of Fiesta Mk2 problems, others have gained some orders.

[Mirek]

We didnt write-off the new Fiesta after the first couple of events so prospective buyers wont have either.

It's a fact some did and it's a fact some others postponed the order for later.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It's a fact some did and it's a fact some others postponed the order for later.

I'm sure this is not unique to the Fiesta Mk2. All buyers evaluate their options and will have done the same with any previous R5.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fabia EVO was fast and reliable straight out of box...

Because it´s looks very much same than before you tend to forget that has different homologation numbers than before.



The exception which proves the rule ...

Plus Skoda had nothing else to concentrate on, unlike M-Sport who were still developing their WRC car while creating a new R5.

[Mirek]

I'm sure this is not unique to the Fiesta Mk2. All buyers evaluate their options and will have done the same with any previous R5.


The exception which proves the rule ...

I really don't know what is your point here. The statement was that the disasterous first outings damaged the M-Sport. That is a fact and there's nothing more to discuss about it.

[Zeakiwi2]

Is anything happening with the Toyota Yaris R5 plans?

[PLuto]

Is anything happening with the Toyota Yaris R5 plans?

Yes, car is in progress...

[pantealex]

Is anything happening with the Toyota Yaris R5 plans?

It´s not just plan anymore, they have made more than 1 prototype cars.

Ready when:
Monte 2020 NO
Finland 2020 Maybe
"Monte" 2021 Probably

[Andre Oliveira]

#18 to Hadik

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHfT4J7X0AAj5Co?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I really don't know what is your point here. .

Didnt you read my points ?

1. That's not unique to a new R5

2. The Fiesta Mk2 is still developing and selling

[Sulland]

Βouffier testing r5 i 20
https://twitter.com/hervetusoli/status/1185159585755291653

https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1185125870400430080

https://youtu.be/tHMKZmso_4g

i feel I read somewhere that the i20 R5 is overweight, as far as I remember it read almost 100kg fat on it. Could that be true?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Yep in Autosport too.
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/146715/hyundai-plans-r5-overhaul-set-for-two-new-cars

Adamo says their R5 was rushed to market and therefore wasnt competitive with the rival cars. Plus they also had another (TCR) car to produce.

Sounds familiar..

[Jarek Z]

Good to hear that Hyundai are continuing to develop their R5 car. There are more and more Hyundais competing in national championships in Poland, Czech Republic, France, Italy, Spain, the UK... Keep them coming!

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp/2jXJPWP6/s6/rajd-dolnoslaski-1.jpg

[mousti]

Yeah I think they do good deals aswell. Like Veiby in Ypres, Devine in Hungary, some entrants in Wales etc..

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[Jarek Z]

In the meantime... new VW Polo GTI R5 for Rallytechnology (Poland).
https://pl.motorsport.com/rsmp/news/polo-r5-zawita-do-polski/4566263/

https://scontent.fktw1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/72789057_2597180060367487_6194347815934623744_n.jp g?_nc_cat=105&_nc_oc=AQlomqCPlnJhxHryvt0a6rRDSks6XLFEWHWyw_f4fuZ sUvy-2TtKFTvo9CI8k6PfLZE&_nc_ht=scontent.fktw1-1.fna&oh=e0473dbaf1d935a431bddb853d37c4e2&oe=5E2A782C

[mousti]

And Metior Sport got Fabia R5 Evo

And Orsak Rallysport got their Fiesta R5 MKII

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[Andre Oliveira]

19 to Orsák, debut at Lausitz

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHlX-hOWoAEvCc6?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[mousti]

Stephane Lefebvre will drive a Ford Fiesta R5 MK II from M-Sport in Condroz Rally with collaboration of MyHub. He will take it up against the best Belgian drivers and Pierre Louis Loubet. (32 R5's entered!)

https://www.m-sport.co.uk/single-post/2019/10/24/LEFEBVRE-TAKES-TO-THE-FORD-FIESTA-R5-MK-II

[RS]

Fiesta R5 again not too impressive in Spain so far..

[Antreas]

But C3 R5 so far in Spain did a great job

[Jarek Z]

And C3 R5 has just won French rally championship! Congratulations!
https://www.motorsportforums.com/showthread.php?19806-News-from-France&p=1233381&viewfull=1#post1233381

[Jarek Z]

What a success of VW Polo GTI R5 in Italy! Re, Pinzano and Chentre took all podium places in Trofeo ACI Como 2019. It's probably the first 1-2-3 for Polo R5.

Final results:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/56675-trofeo-aci-como-2019/

[Ucci]

Re, Pinzano and Chentre took all podium places in Trofeo ACI Como 2019. It's probably the first 1-2-3 for Polo R5.

Final results:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/56675-trofeo-aci-como-2019/
It's gonna be a huge celebration tonight in the Re family-Alessandro won and father Felice on the 4th place....well don father & son!!

[Wim_Impreza]

What a success of VW Polo GTI R5 in Italy! Re, Pinzano and Chentre took all podium places in Trofeo ACI Como 2019. It's probably the first 1-2-3 for Polo R5.

Final results:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/56675-trofeo-aci-como-2019/

In the Ypres Rally the complete podium was also for the VW Polo GTI R5.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIJ7LLWWsAEBaCW?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIJ7LLdWoAA2gfh?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIM3-UJXYAAypVn?format=jpg&name=medium

[steve.mandzij]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIM3-UJXYAAypVn?format=jpg&name=mediumNeon paint on rally cars is my weakness!

[tommeke_B]

https://www.facebook.com/JMvideo.be/videos/784687988647082/

Some impressive footage from Lefebvre testing the new Fiesta R5 for Rallye du Condroz this weekend.

[deephouse]

I have a question? I notice on wikipedia site that Mazda2 is listed in red font on R5 car list. Anyone know more about that? I can't find anything about it. I know that this is fresh because I often look if anything is new there.

[RS]

Mazda 2 is basically a rebadged Fiesta is it not? Maybe they're up to something with MSport..

[Jarek Z]

In the meantime... new VW Polo GTI R5 for Rallytechnology (Poland).
https://pl.motorsport.com/rsmp/news/polo-r5-zawita-do-polski/4566263/

This new Polo is for Tomasz Kasperczyk (second place in this year's Polish championship).

https://cdn-1.motorsport.com/images/amp/0k745ll0/s6/rsmp-kasperczyk-i-syty-prezent-2.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIT804-XYAYVCmQ?format=jpg&name=small

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rallye du Condroz 2019 - Lefebvre over the limit in the Mk2 Fiesta R5 !!

https://youtu.be/f2gsaPRj-6w

(But he is currently leading... :) )

[pantealex]

Rallye du Condroz 2019 - Lefebvre over the limit in the Mk2 Fiesta R5 !!

https://youtu.be/f2gsaPRj-6w



Those spectators are so wrong placed :(

[RS]

Nice feature on Vanick Motorsport who prepare Fabia R5 engines for customer teams: https://www.auto.cz/priprava-motoru-pro-ceskou-rallye-takto-vznikaji-spickove-agregaty-131825

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@MSportLtd
That winning feeling with @SLefebvreRallye , Thomas Dubois and their MY Hub supported EcoBoost-powered Ford Fiesta R5 Mk II @condrozrally !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIhESBmWkAAAS_u?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIhESBmWwAAkhxV?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[dimviii]

Hyundai Motorsport will introduce two new i20 R5 cars in the next 18 months as the Korean squad enhances its offering for next year’s new-look WRC 2 and WRC 3 categories.


https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc-2/news/2019/october-2019/hyundai-wrc-2-bid/page/6805--51-51-.html

[Oops!]

The first updates will be able to be retrofitted to the current car...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The first updates will be able to be retrofitted to the current car...

This was already posted a while back:



https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/146715/hyundai-plans-r5-overhaul-set-for-two-new-cars



"Next year's new specification will be sold as a kit to be fitted to the current i20, and Hyundai intends to homologate the new components on January 1 to keep the current car competitive."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The #Proton #Iriz #R5 just keeps on winning 😉🏆

Quick look back at last weekend's Malton Forest Rally victory.
#ProtonMotorsports

https://t.co/9kGxMJFFdf

[RS]

The #Proton #Iriz #R5 just keeps on winning ����

Quick look back at last weekend's Malton Forest Rally victory.
#ProtonMotorsports

https://t.co/9kGxMJFFdf

Does this car have international homologation yet?

[dimviii]

Breen at hyundai r5 development
https://twitter.com/Bartolbia84/status/1192171159099453440

[Andre Oliveira]

Does this car have international homologation yet?

Yes

[RS]

Yes

Since when?

Disappointing we haven’t seen it on the international stage yet then.. They ran some good drivers in the IRC days.

[m-ast]

Since when?

Disappointing we haven’t seen it on the international stage yet then.. They ran some good drivers in the IRC days.

1 December 2018, homologation form A-5776
https://www.fia.com/file/86608/download/25108

[Andre Oliveira]

Chassis 22 - SC Competition (FRA)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIxWghYWwAAKL34?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIxWghUXYAAIqfy?format=jpg&name=large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

[QUOTE=Andre Oliveira;1234894]Chassis 22 - SC Competition (FRA)

Stunning ! :cool:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fiesta R5 Mk2 runs in the UK for the first time on the Jim Clark Rally. :)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EI6wT6GWkAAj3Nb?format=jpg&name=small

[pantealex]

Fiesta R5 Mk2 runs in the UK for the first time on the Jim Clark Rally. :)



WRC Wales wasn´t held in UK ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC Wales wasn´t held in UK ?

On a national rally smart arse.

[Neige]

Another C3 R5 reabilitation.
ERC Islas Canarias winner P.Lopez won Spain championship last night

[RS]

I don’t think the C3 needs rehabilitation, it’s a good car now. Straight away started better than the 208/DS3 and with some honing this year it’s now one of the quickest with the right driver behind the wheel. Perhaps not as strong/reliable as a Fabia though

[Oops!]

I agree, the C3 R5 has been a decent package since it's introduction. They have all had their weak points when first introduced.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Most R5's have teething problems. Skoda's have probably had the least and their team is dedicated to the Fabia R5 with no WRC car to run at the same time. Coincidence ?

[Rally Power]

ERC Islas Canarias winner P.Lopez won Spain championship last night

Yep, huge congrats to Lopez, Rozada and Sports&You. Amazingly, they didn’t plan to enter the spanish tarmac series as their main focus is the new mixed championship (SCER).

Btw, Sports&You its also told to be running Sean Gelael C3 R5 in the last Indonesian rally of the season. Apparently Gelael is a local hero, known for racing in international formulas series. https://www.revistascratch.com/internacionales/noticia/citroen-racing-contara-con-dos-c3-r5-en-indonesia-para-sean-gelael-53479

[dimviii]

https://motorsport.hyundai.com/performance-boosts-for-i20-r5/

[Andre Oliveira]

Erik Cais livery to Rallye du Var

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJcLilLWkAAZW2V?format=jpg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJcLilKXsAEpU3x?format=jpg&name=medium

[Andre Oliveira]

23 to Beppo Harrach

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EJZvaZtW4AUrCHx?format=jpg&name=medium

[pantealex]

2 or more Fabia EVO did arrive to Printsport for customers. One is probably ex.factory because it has green splitter in front and also some green parts in back with "Skoda Auto" etc stickers.

[mousti]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bj83vJvN098&feature=youtu.be

Gryazin tested i20 R5..

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[dimviii]

Veiby today with i20 r5
https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1196854089608503299


https://youtu.be/R0XaTEfsdf4

[dimviii]

Βοnato testing c3 r5 2020
https://youtu.be/3yix1jAPXUM

[Jarek Z]

New Hyundai is out:
https://www.fiaerc.com/hyundai-reveals-updated-rally2-challenger-for-erc/

[dimviii]

eWRC-results
@eWRCresults
��
Jan Kopecký owns a @MotorsportSkoda
@skodafabiar5
evo now
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELmiD7wXsAU2O_B?format=jpg&name=medium

[Jarek Z]

Kajto was testing Ford Fiesta R5 Mk2 together with M-Sport in Poland today.
Source:
https://rallypl.com/aktualnosci/kajetanowicz-testowal-nowa-fieste-wraz-z-m-sportem/?fbclid=IwAR2tmxO84n4WaqwKd2cFbpWkASgsyo3vKh8zVlkK Rn7GxroCTUSBjLGy4u8

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Marcus Grönholm tested the Proton Iriz R5 with Mellors Elliot Motorsport, and he thinks its ready to debut in the WRC.

Fotos: DHarrigan Images https://t.co/l72w9U39hL

[RS]

Marcus Grönholm tested the Proton Iriz R5 with Mellors Elliot Motorsport, and he thinks its ready to debut in the WRC.

Fotos: DHarrigan Images https://t.co/l72w9U39hL

Personally think it might be more sensible to start in ERC until the car is a bit more proven but would be great to see it either way.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/december-2019/proton-test/page/6905--12-12-.html

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Vid of the test: https://m.facebook.com/MellorsElliot/videos/2955967884413998/

[RS]

Vid of the test: https://m.facebook.com/MellorsElliot/videos/2955967884413998/

Not looking too bad tbh and they sound serious about a WRC2 programme. But are there any results for this car we can analyse or point to in order to suggest it is ready for WRC?

[Oops!]

Nothing really yet.

[Sulland]

Nothing really yet.
The best for them is to compete with the best.
will Mellor drive himself, together with one or two more cars.
Any ideas for the other drivers they have?

[Mirek]

It makes no sense only to be there. They have to take some of the very best drivers available to achieve also some remarkable results like they did in the past with the Satria S2000.

[skarderud]

If its money available, they should hire some of the free drivers, like Tidemand, Meeke, Lappi(?), Paddon, etc, for single outings or whole season in ERC and WRC3.

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[Sulland]

Maybe Mellor should give Mikkelsen a call, to get him in for a few rallies in either WRC or ERC, to get the car a real test.
He has been quick in many cars, and should give them a good bunch of data and feedback!

[RS]

Craig would have been a good choice if he hadnt signed for MRF. Won an event in several of the other R5 cars in 2019..

Yes, I guess he wants to keep his ties to Hyundai though.

I can't see Mikkelsen dropping back to a Proton R5 tbh, but Proton/MEM did hire some good drivers during the Satria Neo S2000 era. Would be good to see them do the same again.

[HKSjbg]

We’ve seen the new Yaris WRC starting testing over on the WRC forums, do we know anything about the rumoured Rally2/R5 version?

[Karbonyl]

Last rumour I heard was the project has been halted for the moment.

[RS]

Really don't like this new 'Rally 2' name for R5 cars, sounds silly.

[Franky]

Really don't like this new 'Rally 2' name for R5 cars, sounds silly.

Glad I'm not the only one. Reading "Skoda Fabia Rally2 evo" in a post about Solberg testing felt odd already

[HKSjbg]

Add to that the fact that there’s years and years of data, news stories, forum posts and god knows what else with reference to R5 cars the damage is already done and the FIA can’t un-do all of that and have just confused matters more 😅

[pantealex]

I like Rally2

Very easy to understand that it´s 2nd fastest rally car.

(Just like Formula1 is fastest and bigger numbers are slower)

When I was young we had:
1,2 and 4
after that
N,A and B
after that
S1600,S2000 and WRC
and so on...

Sometimes names change and life goes on...

[RS]

I like Rally2

Very easy to understand that it´s 2nd fastest rally car.

(Just like Formula1 is fastest and bigger numbers are slower)

When I was young we had:
1,2 and 4
after that
N,A and B
after that
S1600,S2000 and WRC
and so on...

Sometimes names change and life goes on...

But World Rally Cars aren’t going to be called ‘Rally 1s’ are they?

I would even have preferred if they had called the R5 cars WRC2s, but then you have the mess with the WRC2/3 class in the world championship..

[pantealex]

But World Rally Cars aren’t going to be called ‘Rally 1s’ are they?

I would even have preferred if they had called the R5 cars WRC2s, but then you have the mess with the WRC2/3 class in the world championship..

Yes, WRC is Rally1 by regulations.

actually WRC as car name is quite stupid because championship is called WRC. So people are doing "local" events with WRC ;)

[RS]

Yes, WRC is Rally1 by regulations.

actually WRC as car name is quite stupid because championship is called WRC. So people are doing "local" events with WRC ;)

Hmm yeah but it sounds cool ��

Would have been simpler if WRCs had been called R1, R5=R2 etc but then you have the problem of inverting the current class structure.

[Gordini]

Rename thread

[RS]

The Proton R5 set some respectable times on the Cambrian Rally compared for example to Yates who is driving in WRC2 this year: https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/60500-visit-conwy-cambrian-rally-2020/?s=263625

[Sulland]

Rename thread

Think the admin must do that.

[Jarek Z]

Just need Proton to step up. Think Chris would be more than happy to let other people than his son drive the car

How about Nabila Tejpar? ;)
https://www.fiaerc.com/tejpar-to-use-erc-experience-for-rally2-step-up/

[Jarek Z]

The old fox never stops. VW Polo GTI R5 for Raimund Baumschlager and Thomas Zeltner in Austrian rally championship looks very nice :)
http://www.ir7.at/content/fotos_brr_vw_polo_gti_r5_baumschlager_zeltner.html ?fbclid=IwAR37hHfFGMsE1Ubgj-xiWOxhuHIpqlzbx9LSRJZHt9x0BnY25KJzbzpbhq8

[Sulland]

What are the 2020 specs on hp/ Torque for R5?

[dimviii]

Customer feedback makes the Polo GTI R5 even better

Polo GTI R5 customer racing car enjoys rally success around the world
Feedback from customer outings all over the world is incorporated in technical fine tuning
Production of the Polo GTI R5 stepped up to meet sustained high demand

Fine tuning for the car with the winning touch: Volkswagen Motorsport is optimising the Polo GTI R5, based on the experiences of customer teams. The 200-kW (272-PS) four-wheel drive car is used in a diverse range of rallies all over the world. The findings made during these outings flow directly into the process of updating and maintaining the product: the Polo GTI R5 will first receive modified suspension parts in spring, while new components for other key areas of the car will be developed over the course of the year.

“The success story of the Polo GTI R5 is overwhelming. In customer hands, it had already claimed more than 75 victories and 125 podium finishes by the end of 2019,” said Volkswagen Motorsport Director Sven Smeets. “However, it is not only the success of our customers that is important to us, but also their experience in a wide range of conditions – whether on asphalt, gravel, or ice and snow. Our engineers use this feedback to make detailed improvements to the Polo GTI R5. Our goal is to ensure that the Polo GTI R5 remains successful.”

While new chassis components are already being used by customers, a larger package of detailed improvements will be developed over the course of the year and homologated for use in competitions including the FIA World Rally Championship (WRC), FIA European Rally Championship (ERC), and national championships. Volkswagen is also stepping up production to meet the huge demand – 20 percent more Polo GTI R5 than initially planned will now be built in 2020. Production will continue beyond 2020.

High degree of reliability, high performance – Volkswagen is preparing the Polo GTI R5 for the future

“As is well known, if you are not moving forward, you are always moving backward in the world of motorsport,” said François-Xavier “FX” Demaison, Technical Director at Volkswagen Motorsport. “As such, it is hugely important to be constantly working on ideas and solutions for improved performance and durability. Thanks to the comprehensive feedback we receive from our customers, we have been working on updates for the Polo GTI R5 since last year and the first detailed improvements are already being delivered to customers.”

To make this possible, countless amounts of feedback from teams and drivers currently running the Polo GTI R5 in series from the Arctic Circle to Africa, and North and South America to Europe, have been collected and analysed. Volkswagen introduced a professional feedback system to make the process simpler and more direct.
https://volkswagen-motorsport.com/en/press-service/article?tx_dataviewer_record%5Brecord%5D=3315&cHash=266c9713d7784da4f2e5f6228bdf2caf

[Sulland]

Mikkelsen back in Polo, for a stint at least.
https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=204328960771537&_rdr

Still no news on Hyundai in WRC he says to parcferme.no

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Proton Iriz R5 to make mainland Europe debut in Belgium.

MEM pilot Ollie Mellors has lodged an entry for August's Monteberg Rally Sprint, a great shakedown for the BRC Ypres Rally which is now scheduled for October.

Liam Egan also makes the trip in his Iriz R5 !

[Rally Power]

What’s wrong with the Mk II Fiesta? No matter who’s driving it, it seems the car can't match its rivals pace. Is it an engine or a chassis problem? Will MSport homologate Jokers any time soon?

[RS]

Are we drawing that conclusion from Formaux's brief performance in Roma?

I know it didn't have a great start last year either but i wouldn't be panicking for that reason above alone.

[Rally Power]

Are we drawing that conclusion from Formaux's brief performance in Roma?

I know it didn't have a great start last year either but i wouldn't be panicking for that reason above alone.

Nope, the car has been underperforming in most rally series. Apart Greensmith lucky win in Turkey or Campedelli's P2 in Rome, do you remember any other top scores from a Mk II Fiesta?

[Sulland]

What changed in the big picture btw old ond new Fiesta?

How much testing has been done on the MkII on the different surfaces?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Campedelli finished 2nd in the Mk2 Fiesta R5 in Rome last year.

If he was driving this year and was way behind, then we might say there's a big problem...

[RS]

Nope, the car has been underperforming in most rally series. Apart Greensmith lucky win in Turkey or Campedelli's P2 in Rome, do you remember any other top scores from a Mk II Fiesta?

No, i don't.. i just wondered why this topic was raised now like there was some great expectation on Formaux.

IIRC correctly Campedelli actually wasn't that fast here last year but benefited from some retirements/problems ahead?

Weird thing is MSport from the very start have been raving about it but little actual evidence to support it yet. Some guys here also insist the engine is not the problem..

[Rally Power]

No, i don't.. i just wondered why this topic was raised now like there was some great expectation on Formaux.

IIRC correctly Campedelli actually wasn't that fast here last year but benefited from some retirements/problems ahead?

Weird thing is MSport from the very start have been raving about it but little actual evidence to support it yet. Some guys here also insist the engine is not the problem..

You’re right, Campedelli’s P2 at Rome was also a bit lucky, althought he managed to show top speed on other CIR events.

Anyway, the car was homologated more than one year ago (July 1, 2019) so it makes sense to wonder how MSport is trying to improve it, once continuing to blame the drivers for the lack of results (Suninen, Camilli, Paddon and now Fourmaux) will hardly make it faster.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Campedelli had eight Top 3 times at Rally di Roma last year, in what was his and the cars debut together.

The big disappointment with Fourmaux was he couldnt stay on the road to show anything this year.

Until I see the Fiesta R5 Mk2 in the hands of a top driver more often I wont write it off yet.

[RS]

Until I see the Fiesta R5 Mk2 in the hands of a top driver more often I wont write it off yet.

MSport should send Lappi to Liepaja so we can get a definitive answer.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lukyanuk just said it would've been more pressure if Fourmaux (and Crugnola) hadnt gone out so early. He expected the battle to be close with them.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

FIAERC.com

NIki Mayr-Melnhof is preparing to start his first full season in the FIA European Rally Championship at the wheel of an even faster Ford.

The former Austrian champion has upgraded to M-Sport’s Ford Fiesta R5 MkII for 2020 and has high hopes for his new challenger.

“We are anticipating there is a good change made and for sure it will be faster,” said Mayr-Melnhof. “The main thing is the engine, there is much more power in the low revs, [compared] with the old car. The centre of gravity is much, much lower the steering is a big advantage.

“I drove a World Rally Car five or six years ago and the steering seems very similar to a World Rally Car. There are a lot of small changes which add up to better car, more drivable and easier to drive. We also hope it’s quicker.”

As well as testing in Italy on Tuesday, Mayr-Melnhof has tested and rallied in Hungary and Czech Republic ahead of the new ERC season.

“We still got a bit to do set-up wise but we’re going to work with an engineer from M-Sport who is going to come out for the rally and squeeze out the last potential of the car,” said the Drift Company Rally Team driver.

[RS]

You can see on this video the engine is still dying on the exit from very slow hairpins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_1fIT7VXFY

[Rally Power]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_1fIT7VXFY

Heavy crash, glad no one’s hurt. Better luck for the crew and MSport on the next rally.

[Rally Power]

They've failled with the WRC but they're doing a good job with the R5. Congrats Citroen Racing!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EeGFcjHXkAE322q?format=jpg&name=medium

https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing/status/1288457719377166336

[M5]

Grondal selling his Mk2 Fiesta.
https://rallycarsforsale.net/ads/ford-fiesta-r5-mk2/

Is he quitting, or buying different R5?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mellors Elliot Motorsport:
Great to be able to get the Proton Iriz R5 out on-track after lockdown, with the aim of testing some new settings for Oliver Mellors.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EePXDdDXYAEsQlH?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

Even after sampling the competing R5s in depth, Crugnola still prefers the C3, and “not just because I drive a Citroën, but because it’s true,” as he’s quick to qualify.

“With the Citroën I’m more confident with the front axle, which is very important for my driving style,” Crugnola explained to DirtFish.

“With the other R5s that I drove in the past, I had to change my driving style a bit. Now I can brake a little bit earlier and I can get on the throttle earlier, because I can preload the front axle a little bit less.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/how-citroen-has-closed-the-gap-to-its-r5-rivals/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

"M-Sport pair Esapekka Lappi and Teemu Suninen will join rivals from Hyundai and Toyota in contesting the South Estonia Rally next weekend, two weeks before the World Rally Championship resumes with Rally Estonia.

Lappi will drive a privately owned Fiesta WRC from JanPro Racing, run by former WRC driver Janne Tuohino while Suninen will pilot a Fiesta R5 Mk2."

[RS]

I would rather have seen Suninen in Latavia but hopefully there will be a good entry for South Estonia too.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I would rather have seen Suninen in Latavia but hopefully there will be a good entry for South Estonia too.

There is: http://autosport.ee/rallyreg/?page=27&race_id=479&

[RS]

There is: http://autosport.ee/rallyreg/?page=27&race_id=479&

Not bad, but in R5 class Liepaja is better.

[pantealex]

Not bad, but in Rally2 (fixed that for you) class Liepaja is better.

Maybe but Gryazin, Huttunen and Asunmaa (currently leading Finnish championship) are giving some info.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Allowing Suninen to only drive a Mk1 Fiesta R5 is a bit poor from M-Sport.

[AnttiL]

Allowing Suninen to only drive a Mk1 Fiesta R5 is a bit poor from M-Sport.

Probably Suninen has to fund it by himself

[Oliverk]

Probably Suninen has to fund it by himself

Lot of them Estonian sponsors. So Finland support your guys.

[pantealex]

Lot of them Estonian sponsors. So Finland support your guys.

Suninen lives in Estonia ;)

[mousti]

Meeke tested for the second time with Skoda Motorsport.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=jimXzBmAPUc

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[Mirek]

Sanremo stage, right?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Škoda starting to feel the pressure from the opposition R5's ?

[dimviii]

Meeke tested for the second time with Skoda Motorsport.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=jimXzBmAPUc

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hadn t noticed the first time,thanks for posting mate.
We have to mention that citroen didnt use him at c3 r5 when they had problem with competition.

[pantealex]

Škoda starting to feel the pressure from the opposition R5's ?

Michelin is feeling the pressure ...

ERC
Tarmac Pirelli 1st
Fast Gravel Pirelli 1st

MRF is developing fast

[Fast Eddie WRC]

As Dirtfish said last night:

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/meeke-tests-skoda-fabia-in-italy

[RS]

Allowing Suninen to only drive a Mk1 Fiesta R5 is a bit poor from M-Sport.

Mk1? As in the old body shape?

[AnttiL]

Yes. Suninen rented it from Finland with his own budget. One and half days of testing.

[the sniper]

Hopefully at least this'll avoid M-Sport having the nerve to critique his performance if he doesn't do well...

No doubt they'll claim the win for their 'still competitive package', if he does so.

[br21]

Yes, Mk1 car from Finland, car which Ketomaa drove last years. Tomorrow test in Estonia.

[RS]

As Dirtfish said last night:

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/meeke-tests-skoda-fabia-in-italy

They actually did back to back tests with Pirellis: https://twitter.com/Traxx_WiF/status/1296094513669210120?s=19

[Co-driven]

And even with some Pirelli engineers onsite.

[dimviii]

And even with some Pirelli engineers onsite.

strange,while it was a Michelin test,there were present and Pirelli engineers?

[Mirek]

strange,while it was a Michelin test,there were present and Pirelli engineers?

I don't think that it was a Michelin test but I may be wrong.

[dimviii]

I don't think that it was a Michelin test but I may be wrong.

Dirtfish wasnt sure about it if you read how they wrote that.

''DirtFish understands the test was centered on tire development for Michelin.''

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/meeke-tests-skoda-fabia-in-italy

maybe just skoda wants to test the faster tyre,now the opposition is up on the game.

[RS]

maybe just skoda wants to test the faster tyre,now the opposition is up on the game.

Seems like that. Solberg already uses Pirelli on his ‘Skoda Motorsport Customer Racing’ Fabia too.

[RS]

I don't think that it was a Michelin test but I may be wrong.

Is there much development room left in the current car? I think a new Fabia road car is coming early next year so surely they will start testing a new ‘Rally 2’ car in the not too distant future?

[RS]

Meeke looking more comfortable with the car here, perhaps day two:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93vU8csIhhc

[PLuto]

I don't think that it was a Michelin test but I may be wrong.

It was not Michelin test.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Suninen test in the Mk1 R5 Fiesta

https://twitter.com/i/status/1296384176950849537

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Pirelli's helped Solberg's performance:

https://www.fiaerc.com/k6-helps-solberg-to-p1-as-pirellis-soft-compound-excels-in-erc/

[Sulland]

Maybe admin can rename this thread to Rally2 News?

[Jarek Z]

Michelin is feeling the pressure ...

ERC
Tarmac Pirelli 1st
Fast Gravel Pirelli 1st


In Italy almost everybody is using Pirelli. Have a look:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/61875-rally-il-ciocco-e-valle-del-serchio-2020/?s=294518

[dimviii]

In Italy almost everybody is using Pirelli. Have a look:
https://www.ewrc-results.com/results/61875-rally-il-ciocco-e-valle-del-serchio-2020/?s=294518

there is a reason why they use Pirellis

[Jarek Z]

Also Kajto recommends Pirellis:
https://kajto.pl/en/2020/08/05/season-restart-is-just-around-the-corner-first-challenge-for-kajetanowicz-gravel-in-estonia/

[pantealex]

Well everyone knows that
Michelin is from France
Pirelli is from Italy
so those 2 countries are bad examples for tyre choises.

[Co-driven]

If I am not mistaken, Basso won the Italian Championship in 2019 with Michelin...

[Jarek Z]

You are right:
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2019/photos/rallye_sanremo_2019/lad_basso_11.jpg

[Sulland]

Anders Grøndal looks to be ditching the Rally2 Fiesta Mk2. He drives slower in that model than the Mk 1. He says he does not get the feel in that cartype.
The family firm is a Ford dealership, so does not want to stop using Ford, but he would like to win, amd feels that he can not do that in the Mk2.

Tested a Skoda Fabia Evo this weekend, and won. He liked that car, but will test more cars, I guess Polo, C3 and i20 as well, before deciding car for 2021.

[Andre Oliveira]

I am impressed with Frank Tore Larsen. Great pace in old one.

[Sulland]

I am impressed with Frank Tore Larsen. Great pace in old one.

Yes, and it it is chassis nr 30 from 2014, done 75 rallies with him since new.
https://www.ewrc-results.com/carinfo/47-ford-fiesta-r5/?car=1058

[dimviii]

Solberg testing at Poland

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhfoLCIXYAYFR1u?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhfoLSVWoAItnhO?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhfoLy_WkAAhHTi?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhfoLkYWkAA4L6m?format=jpg&name=large

https://twitter.com/RubnPerez/status/1303765909207691265

[Sulland]

Is there any development happening on VW Motorsport on the Polo R5, or is it still the same as it was born?

[Co-driven]

Is there any development happening on VW Motorsport on the Polo R5, or is it still the same as it was born?

Watching a review from Rally Alto Tâmega, from Portugal, Pedro Meireles was saying that he was expecting the arrival of a new gearbox from Germany, which sounded like some sort of upgrade. He was also saying that there are less Polo's running, which makes the process of developing a bit slower.

[RS]

Is there any development happening on VW Motorsport on the Polo R5, or is it still the same as it was born?

Yes, it is less combustible than when it was born and the suspension is less collapsey.

[RS]

Video from Solberg test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEekyC8-5-8

I am not aware that Skoda Motorsport have any major events on the horizon so I wonder whether this test (and recent ones of Meeke) are actually testing components for the next Fabia R5? Or maybe just some jokers to see this model through until homologation of the new car.

And Kopecky: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYJVZTaXCnU

[the sniper]

Yes, it is less combustible than when it was born and the suspension is less collapsey.

I was going to say, it's no longer a fiery child, so it has grown up a bit, at least! :D

[Sulland]

People are selling their Mk2 Fiestas, something at the back of the car that they can not adjust so they get enough grip. Many have tested a lot, but habe not managed to get the level of confidence as in a Mk1.

Are MSport planning upgrades for this?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Future Yaris R5 ?

https://www.evo.co.uk/toyota/yaris/203175/mysterious-toyota-gr-yaris-spied-testing-at-the-nurburgring

[Mirek]

That definitely isn't R5.

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial/status/1316287770252513280?s=20

New i20 Rally2..??

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[Sulland]

Anyone that knows what is happening to the Proton Iriz R5, are they competing at all in 2020?
They need a top driver to promote it in ERC or WRC imo, so customers can see what it is good for.

[Mirek]

Unlike with the Satria S2000 I don't see any sign of potential in the Iriz R5 to compete against the top dogs. The car looks to be a lost case unfortunately.

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

TBF, COVID19 is still around. And I dunno if rallying in UK has been restarted..

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Anyone that knows what is happening to the Proton Iriz R5, are they competing at all in 2020?
They need a top driver to promote it in ERC or WRC imo, so customers can see what it is good for.


Mellors Elliot Motorsport @mellorselliot

It's been a LONG time since we have said this...but it's #RALLYWEEK!

Looking forward to the #MEM #Proton #Iriz #R5 getting some competitive mileage at this week's fantastic @GoodwoodRRC #SpeedWeek

All available on line free to view at http://goodwood.com

[Rally Power]

They need a top driver to promote it in ERC or WRC imo, so customers can see what it is good for.

That would be great but the program seems to be underfunded since the beginning. Proton is still recovering from a serious crisis, which forced them to let Geely get a 49.9% stake and lead the company. https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/China-s-Geely-buys-big-stakes-in-Proton-Lotus-for-discounted-price-of-235m

Anyway, the Iriz R5 late development and homologation already happened under Geely management so, who knows, maybe we’ll end seeing it on a top international series. Fingers crossed and hat off to MEM.

[AnttiL]

Mellors Elliot Motorsport @mellorselliot

It's been a LONG time since we have said this...but it's #RALLYWEEK!

Looking forward to the #MEM #Proton #Iriz #R5 getting some competitive mileage at this week's fantastic @GoodwoodRRC #SpeedWeek

All available on line free to view at http://goodwood.com

I find it ironic that you reply to this topic with news about the car being entered to a race best known for dusting off rally cars from museums...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I find it ironic that you reply to this topic with news about the car being entered to a race best known for dusting off rally cars from museums...

Well it's the nearest thing to a competitive rally we have in the UK at present !

More about the rally event:

https://www.goodwood.com/grr/event-coverage/goodwood-speedweek/2020/8/super-special-competition-coming-to-speedweek/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nabila Tejpar @NabilaRally

Surprise !

Delighted to announce I`ll be contesting my first event in the @mellorselliot Proton Iriz R5 - TODAY !

Honoured to have been asked to compete at the coveted @GoodwoodRRC #Speedweek.

Excited isn't the word !

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Osian Pryce in a VW Polo R5 and Rhys Yates in Fiesta R5 Mk2 are also doing the Goodwood stages...

https://www.countytimes.co.uk/resources/images/11918909.jpg?display=1&htype=0&type=responsive-gallery

https://www-dirtfish.imgix.net/2020/10/RY-car-2.jpeg?fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=520&ixlib=php-1.2.1&q=70&w=780&wpsize=entry-main
https://www-dirtfish.imgix.net/2020/10/RY-car-3.jpeg?fit=scale&fm=pjpg&h=520&ixlib=php-1.2.1&q=70&w=780&wpsize=entry-main

[AnttiL]

Why is this Goodwood thing so important? We have dozens of Rally2's starting around the world every weekend in real rallies.

Yates' livery is interesting though.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Iriz R5

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkcR5KoXIAERuVN?format=jpg&name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkcR5KvWMAI9VYn?format=jpg&name=large

[the sniper]

Why is this Goodwood thing so important? We have dozens of Rally2's starting around the world every weekend in real rallies.

Yates' livery is interesting though.

Because it's all we've got here! :D

And to be fair, Osian Pryce changing to a VW Polo going forward is somewhat newsworthy.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Some great machinery here too:

https://www.goodwood.com/grr/event-coverage/goodwood-speedweek/2020/10/gallery-wrc-cars-blasting-round-goodwood-at-night/

[AnttiL]

Because it's all we've got here! :D

And to be fair, Osian Pryce changing to a VW Polo going forward is somewhat newsworthy.

Maybe newsworthy within British rallying thread or something. Pryce has done 2 R5 starts during the last three years so he's now "changing"? Is this even a permanent change or just a test drive?

[the sniper]

Maybe newsworthy within British rallying thread or something. Pryce has done 2 R5 starts during the last three years so he's now "changing"? Is this even a permanent change or just a test drive?

Seemingly he was supposed to be in the Polo from the second BRC round onwards, before it was cancelled. He's hoping to do some "high profile events" in 2021, but we'll see if he gets the budget.

[AnttiL]

New Hyundai

https://twitter.com/hmsgofficial/status/1318794303741874176?s=21

This says the car won't be available until summer 2021 but I can't find English source for it

https://www.rallit.fi/hyundai-esitteli-uuden-ralliautonsa-kuvat-jokaista-osa-aluetta-on-parannettu/

[Jarek Z]

Here it is in English:
https://www.fiaerc.com/wraps-come-off-all-new-erc-bound-hyundai-i20-n-rally2/

[AnttiL]

Citroen testing an Evo 2 model of the C3?

https://twitter.com/NachoVillarin/status/1318707412698828800