Rally2 (ex-R5) News

[polo10]

RRC not allowed on national.
RRC was allowed this year but with a 28mm restrictor wich turns the car to a non-competitive car...

[Andre Oliveira]

Yes you are right :) That retire all interest on race with one RRC.

Btw, readed on twitter that M-Sport invite some drivers to test Fiesta WRC, one of them, João Barros.

[RICARDO75]

he would like to buy a psa R5 instead of skoda?

Never said it would be replaced by another R5. I'm not allowed to say, as the other two drivers interested in Fabia R5.

[Andre Oliveira]

Good Ricardo :) Hope one of this three get a top car for next season: Fontes, Peres, Adruzilo ;)

[Andre Oliveira]

Jensen join Tsjoen and are selling his 208 too

[christy but]

any news on breens plans

[RS]

Short 'making of' Fabia R5 launch video, shot in an underground car park in Prague. The presentation will be at the Essen Motorshow from this Saturday, maybe Skoda confirm their drivers and programme for next year too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGU25XloB3Q&list=UUlUfsEYaMFuaqKRIZ5RZqwA

[mousti]

Jensen join Tsjoen and are selling his 208 too
But in Tsjoen's case it's DGsport who sells it and I think they ordered a new one allready.

[CWJ]

Short 'making of' Fabia R5 launch video, shot in an underground car park in Prague. The presentation will be at the Essen Motorshow from this Saturday, maybe Skoda confirm their drivers and programme for next year too?


Nothing official will happen in Essen and only a showcar should be there.

[Tom206wrc]

Luca "Rox" Rossetti for the first time in a 208 T16 this coming week-end at the Monza Rally Show :D
The comparison with "Ucci" can only be interesting, even if the show isn't a proper rally ;)

[Andre Oliveira]

https://scontent-a-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/l/t1.0-9/10806246_181330845370862_4968439842217678356_n.png ?oh=e63fd9d753a25d88e036da6c7ca2b994&oe=551C2B50

5 208 R5 at Italy ? Humm

[Sulland]

What is the latest news for homologation date on the Fabia R5, january or april?

[vino_93]

https://scontent-a-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/l/t1.0-9/10806246_181330845370862_4968439842217678356_n.png ?oh=e63fd9d753a25d88e036da6c7ca2b994&oe=551C2B50

5 208 R5 at Italy ? Humm

Same car can run with different drivers ;)

[RICARDO75]

But in Tsjoen's case it's DGsport who sells it and I think they ordered a new one allready.

De Cecco tested DGsport's 208 T16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syRnjgx6z5E&feature=em-uploademail

... and Alex Parpotas, the 208 R2

[Mirek]

What is the latest news for homologation date on the Fabia R5, january or april?

I think March.

[pucky54]

Same car can run with different drivers ;)

Not possible ;)

[CWJ]

Skoda Fabia R5 "concept"

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/10708698_10152933000499973_5929599411517554285_o.j pg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10517398_10152933000514973_5044971442387269723_o.j pg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t31.0-8/10549276_10152933000489973_1807574202002136059_o.j pg

[WUff1]

BRR should be one of the first private teams to get a Fabia R5:

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm/nachrichten/news-detail/d/2014/11/26/armin-kremer-steigt-in-wrc2-ein/index.html

Think Freddy Loix, too.

[liposh]

Sure this is not the final design, but from my side of view: Some good point in the design of R5 (green rims) , but as I said a long time ago, I am missing the red colour there. The designs from 2012 till now have only green-black-white, and it is not graphically strong mix. Even very thin red lines would make it better.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice.. hope it happens.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3XcQm0CQAAcKfB.jpg

[Mirek]

I like the half-zebra livery and green wheels (actually I'm not a fan of colored wheels at all but sometimes like with the red rims of Abarths S2000 I make an exception). I would be very happy if it stays like this.

[dimviii]

much better imho than the previous one.

[RS]

Any technical points to note from the photos alone Mirek or nothing significant to see?

I note they have the cut outs ahead of the rear wheels (as on the 208), I presume this is to aid airflow and cooling to the rear brakes.

Also the front bumper is quite intricate with the channel to the side of the lower radiator exiting ahead of the front wheels. Is this for cooling something or even for aerodynamic reasons?

[Luis Pacheco]

The lettring "Skoda Motorsport", on the doors, will be covered with the plates of certain rallyes.

[liposh]

Luis, this is design only for Essen motorshow, design for next season will be probably different ;-)

[RS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stdmjjymahY


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B3hx2zFIIAAgnIT.jpg:large

[Andre Oliveira]

Michiel Becx unit, someone know chassis number? Almost on 100 :)

https://scontent-b-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10342000_782980411766598_3516005065438948167_n.jpg ?oh=30f6779bcc16779d30262a08868c076e&oe=54D87323

[Luis Pacheco]

Luis, this is design only for Essen motorshow, design for next season will be probably different ;-)

I know. I was only joking. :)

[Zeakiwi]

Suzuki could make a reasonable R5 Swift with a 1600cc turbo engine for the Asia Pacific area.
http://youtu.be/9DnMKE9eR1g

[vino_93]

this has nothing to see with R5, it's something to do drift show as does Block.

[dimviii]

Teemu/Rallirinki.net ‏@HartusvuoriWRC 18 ώρεςΠριν από 18 ώρες
New issue of VM magazine tells @MotorsportSkoda is selling their Fabia S2000s and won't compete until R5 is ready. Could be 6 months break.

[RS]

I expect to see them in Ireland, otherwise they may have to write off the 2015 season as far as titles go.

[WUff1]

Teemu/Rallirinki.net ‏@HartusvuoriWRC 18 ώρεςΠριν από 18 ώρες
New issue of VM magazine tells @MotorsportSkoda is selling their Fabia S2000s and won't compete until R5 is ready. Could be 6 months break.

Nearly the same is written in Austrian Automobile drivers association ÖEAMTC december news, of Skoda not competing at Jänner Rally and starting season when Fabia R5 is ready - so concluding from this no Rally Liepaja, too.


I expect to see them in Ireland, otherwise they may have to write off the 2015 season as far as titles go.

I think new ERC rules are good for them - it could be enough for Skoda. Nobody knows what is happening at Peugeot Sports at the moment, if they stay in ERC with Sainteloc, future of Breen and Abbring unclear etc.

[liposh]

Wondering whether Skoda will drive its test car as "0" car during winter or spring somewhere. :-) Janner would be great for it, but I just hope for something like that. More probably they won´t be there.

[PLuto]

New issue of VM magazine tells @MotorsportSkoda is selling their Fabia S2000s and won't compete until R5 is ready. Could be 6 months break.

This is true

[PLuto]

Wondering whether Skoda will drive its test car as "0" car during winter or spring somewhere. :-) Janner would be great for it, but I just hope for something like that. More probably they won´t be there.

This is highly possible...

[polo10]

This is true
If this is true homologation should be March/April ,correct?

[nafpaktos]

Yes

[PLuto]

If this is true homologation should be March/April ,correct?

We will see...

[Mirek]

It's quite obvious that they keep some back door opened by not saying any precise date. It can happen that something isn't satisfying for homologation and the date must be moved. Don't forget R5 rules allow only very limited development after homologation.

[RS]

We haven't seen any Fabia testing videos for a while.. taking a break for development or just not been caught on camera?

[PLuto]

They are testing all the time. Maybe there were so many videos of Fabia R5 so it is too boring for everybody to do the same again...

[Tom206wrc]

...
I think new ERC rules are good for them - it could be enough for Skoda. Nobody knows what is happening at Peugeot Sports at the moment, if they stay in ERC with Sainteloc, future of Breen and Abbring unclear etc.


Maybe Peugeot-Sport switches to WRC2(or add this championship to ERC)as Sébastien Chardonnet would be testing the 208 T16 for Monte-Carlo :confused:

[RS]

Peugeot would be crazy to do that. Less exposure and if the car can't even finish ERC rallies..

On the other hand maybe they are running from Skoda.

[WUff1]

But maybe Peugeot for ERC, and DS R5 for WRC2, as already mentioned ....?

On the other hand the chances for Peugeot maybe would be better in WRC with restart on the next day.

[Mirek]

How many people care about WRC2? For a carmaker the sport is a marketing tool and as such WRC2 is pretty much useless.

[Francis44]

How many people care about WRC2? For a carmaker the sport is a marketing tool and as such WRC2 is pretty much useless.

Bernardo Sousa says he has a much bigger return from WRC2 than ERC. His investment is no where as big as an official manufacteur budget but still.

[PLuto]

Bernardo Sousa says he has a much bigger return from WRC2 than ERC. His investment is no where as big as an official manufacteur budget but still.

Bernardo Sousa is not good example. When he was not driving RRC, he has no chance to be on same speed with other drivers in previous starts in ERC/IRC. This year on Acores it was the same, but he was lucky that all other rivals retired or had problems...

Always there is different view to IRC/ERC vs WRC2 in Portugal between Sousa and Magalhaes. Each of them has his own opinion...

[Francis44]

Bernardo Sousa is not good example. When he was not driving RRC, he has no chance to be on same speed with other drivers in previous starts in ERC/IRC. This year on Acores it was the same, but he was lucky that all other rivals retired or had problems...

Always there is different view to IRC/ERC vs WRC2 in Portugal between Sousa and Magalhaes. Each of them has his own opinion...

Sport results aside, Bernardo Sousa sponsors seem to prefer WRC2.

[PLuto]

Sport results aside, Bernardo Sousa sponsors seem to prefer WRC2.

I know how this works very well. There is more aspects, not only what "prefer sponsors". There is lot of things which are deciding what is preferable or not. For sure for them is better to fight for top 3 in WRC2 than to be on the end of top ten in ERC (hypothetically). For sure it is also on the driver how he can present to the sponsors/partners what should be better for them. There are lot of aspects, but in this special case I am sure that Bernardo is doing primary WRC2 as he doesnt like ERC :)

[WUff1]

It´s not only Sousa who prefers WRC2 - otherwise the entries of ERC would be better besides the same 5-7 drivers, who do most of the ERC-rallies.

And I think that´s why ERC will never make a real brakethrough.

[PLuto]

It´s not only Sousa who prefers WRC2 - otherwise the entries of ERC would be better besides the same 5-7 drivers, who do most of the ERC-rallies.
Yes, I know. But I was answering in this specific case with Sousa...


And I think that´s why ERC will never make a real brakethrough.
ERC has big potential and should be real brake through like it was with IRC. But we will see if promoter will be able to fullfil this potential...

[Mirek]

Bernardo Sousa says he has a much bigger return from WRC2 than ERC. His investment is no where as big as an official manufacteur budget but still.

Since when is Bernardo a car manufacturer? Please think about what I said again. Manufacturers need to be the center of what happens, they need overall victories because the winner is only one, they want media attention, to drive the stages when all fans are there not when half of them left. They want spectators to talk about them. They need to have the best and biggest places in the service park etc. etc. Nothing like than can be offered by WRC2 to manufacturers.

[Andre Oliveira]

Balbosca unit, chassis 94

https://scontent-b-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1560720_801538816559183_3153295875933753606_n.jpg? oh=04e04255537eaf7963ef3d1396803bdb&oe=5544E324

[PLuto]

If it is Balbosca, it is last photo where you can be 100% sure it is no 94 :andrea:

[Andre Oliveira]

Why?

[PLuto]

See PM

[mousti]

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10849951_909283609083290_3626144898993660608_n.jpg ?oh=dded69c3e264262a1dd23700e8dd678a&oe=5546123D

Citroën DS3 R5 of Jourdan Serderidis for next year.

[Mirek]

Fred will co-drive Serderidis?

[mousti]

Fred will co-drive Serderidis?
At Monte Carlo it will be William Mergny, Fred is not available then but rest of season he will take again the co-driver seat.

[RICARDO75]

Peugeot 208 T16 for Juha Salo
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1508589_851379188247479_8755181072540898469_n.jpg? oh=e07b84bf21b464954ea59037363b67a0&oe=553C2272&__gda__=1426337359_a7d40035bf67e07a70a794bd825f89a c

[Tom206wrc]

Gulf livery for Salo's 208 T16 ??? :D

[RICARDO75]

Skoda is testing in Italy
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10443446_730688730354689_4140198553121960934_n.jpg ?oh=ed1b6bf8002f660497b3f9d2375e85b0&oe=550A80E9&__gda__=1427071057_a76ee4fc864c452ab71cb2a9ec843bd c

[dimviii]

Grondal testing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMYSrSRoO14

[polo10]

https://fbcdn-video-c-a.akamaihd.net/hvideo-ak-xfp1/v/t42.1790-2/10572665_759479330814855_582415176_n.mp4?oh=41c0bf b0354ba8881d078593ab73f5a0&oe=549224DA&__gda__=1418863930_c5fb7a0703b51ad9b3cb207da878b21 a

[wwbroe]

https://fbcdn-video-c-a.akamaihd.net/hvideo-ak-xfp1/v/t42.1790-2/10572665_759479330814855_582415176_n.mp4?oh=41c0bf b0354ba8881d078593ab73f5a0&oe=549224DA&__gda__=1418863930_c5fb7a0703b51ad9b3cb207da878b21 a

Who was the driver in this test?

[polo10]

Who was the driver in this test?
Don t know, but the engine sound better then before, i think...

[Mirek]

What is on that video? It is blocked here in my office...

[hari]

What is on that video? It is blocked here in my office...
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=759479000814888

Baumschlager testing the Skoda Fabia R5 in Tuscany in spectacular style with a very nice engine noise.

[RS]

I can't see the video either. Hopefully someone will put it on Youtube.

[Mirek]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=759479000814888

Baumschlager testing the Skoda Fabia R5 in Tuscany in spectacular style with a very nice engine noise.

Thanks, there's no facebook in my office :)

[RS]

Seen it now. It doesn't sound so different in my opinion. I just think there is more wheel slippage on loose surfaces so more engine revs.

The car sounds 'nice', I would just like to hear more revs and more volume!

[BMV]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oCfh9bJRBE No facebook here either, but i presume this is the same video i found on youtube?

[RS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oCfh9bJRBE No facebook here either, but i presume this is the same video i found on youtube?

Yes, it's the same.

[RICARDO75]

Cédric Cherain
http://speedactiontv.be/Getimage.aspx?m=F&d=imgnews&n=BRC15-CHERAIN-01.jpg

[nafpaktos]

His programm the coming year?only domestic championsip?

[EightGear]

His programm the coming year?only domestic championsip?

Yes, Belgian championship.

[NoFear85]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t31.0-8/10454508_760141134082008_7577962442064101813_o.jpg ?dl=1

turbo problem? something going wrong

[PLuto]

turbo problem? something going wrong

They have seen photographer from rival team, so they started with masking system "smoke screen" :)

[stefanvv]

They have seen photographer from rival team, so they started with masking system "smoke screen" :)

What rival team?:)

[PLuto]

What rival team?:)

I am sure that teams with other R5 projects are watching what Skoda will do ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Skoda Fabia R5 tests in Italy.. more pics

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5NS_3MCQAEPEok.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B5NTPSxCYAABeq3.jpg

[mousti]

Thanks, there's no facebook in my office :)

If u didn't see it Mirek... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oNCytuYDXQ&feature=youtu.be

[RICARDO75]

Juha Salo
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10850277_852912978094100_2310915882199529438_n.jpg ?oh=16ef12957be222a2dce2e36dd84060c8&oe=5546AA66&__gda__=1426085086_9cb1e9437b68d31206370891d7129d0 7

[RICARDO75]

Printsport / Karl Kruuda
https://twitter.com/JoMoWRC/status/545984256733089792?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=fb&utm_campaign=KarlKruuda&utm_content=545987242788139008

[RICARDO75]

new video from Fabia R5 test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xz0eX3M-LS0&feature=youtu.be

[Mirek]

Thanks, really nice!

[Andre Oliveira]

BRC Racing are selling the Fiesta R5 chassis 47 by 190.000€. The car never run.

-10.000€ that Barros want sell his with some rallies.

[Sardalense]

Don't be so sure that the car was never used... Another italian team has 2 cars, the one I saw did not had VIN number like the others... One has a lot of rallys, the other none!

[RICARDO75]

Test DS 3 R5 from Jourdan Serderidis with Freddy Loix and Cedric Cherain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5ZcDjN_qy0&feature=youtu.be

[RICARDO75]

Peugeot 208 for Eric Mauffrey
https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/1920575_820172754710826_8121781315940692618_n.jpg? oh=9629eac1640c27b4ce9223f355145faf&oe=55414B6C

[Andre Oliveira]

Chassis 22

Emmepi (Italy) received a new Fiesta R5.

Kajto will receive a new Fiesta R5 and are asking one name to it ;)

[katxal]

Joao Barros sold his fiesta R5 to Canary Islands (Spain). To Gustavo Sosa

[Andre Oliveira]

Yes, João Barros will buy other Fiesta R5. But yesterday he tested the other (uncle's car) at Fafe.

[polo10]

Yes, João Barros will buy other Fiesta R5. But yesterday he tested the other (uncle's car) at Fafe.
Where?

[Andre Oliveira]

São Pedro stage, same place that he and Madeira tested early this year.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=796754073694705&set=p.796754073694705&type=2&theater

[RICARDO75]

Yes, João Barros will buy other Fiesta R5. But yesterday he tested the other (uncle's car) at Fafe.

Are you sure it's another Fiesta R5? :)

[Andre Oliveira]

Yes said it on some autosport.pt article ;) Maybe is not 100% true

[RS]

Have Peugeot done any testing or made any changes over the winter months in order to improve the car for 2015?

[Tom206wrc]

Have Peugeot done any testing or made any changes over the winter months in order to improve the car for 2015?

They did test with Chardonnet and Lefèbvre but I don't know if they changed something technically :confused:

[John Williams]

Have Peugeot done any testing or made any changes over the winter months in order to improve the car for 2015?

The DS3 R5 has a modified gearbox - I presume the same applies to the 208.

[br21]

The DS3 R5 has a modified gearbox - I presume the same applies to the 208.

In Autumn they already had upgraded gearbox with modified front diff housing, they added something new?

[John Williams]

In Autumn they already had upgraded gearbox with modified front diff housing, they added something new?

I have only heard of the one gearbox modification so I presume we are talking about the same thing. I thought it was a very recent change not back to Autumn..

[PLuto]

I think they have used this new gearbox for first time in France and then Valais+Corse.

[br21]

I think they have used this new gearbox for first time in France and then Valais+Corse.

Yes, exactly. Abbring used it in Alsace for the first time.

[RICARDO75]

100th Fiesta R5 special livery
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10898027_893050520726520_5827172635814084332_n.jpg ?oh=01bd2b33d4bf4fd0e2e1dcc55d998b77&oe=55329DD5&__gda__=1430264585_c301f19ceb40390a85a7bbed4837d9f a

[br21]

Live that Fiesta looks really beautiful!! Great livery!

[WUff1]

Who bought it?

[RICARDO75]

Maybe no one bought and M-Sport just had built to celebrate the hundredth Fiesta R5 to introduce this car on this event. Should not be hard to sell, in case of not having an owner. :)

[Andre Oliveira]

94 to Balbosca, bought by order... so...

Mr. Wilson found the golden map ;)

[Sulland]

Grøndal testing new R5 on snow
https://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv% 3DC2i1FBh6emg&h=5AQG-cOMoAQHMETSxbkC39S2NcHKoyW4BuGBHHd3k0X_IOg&enc=AZMbmaXu-azo_pITJIYxv1fl2avntqvn8my8gaVWVcNZn3XOk7JMKk-RTF5dRTGB4bmkCPgCxAek_UTbDN4hBr8SqMio3nai1AOybXtHk zU6-DGMZdE_MmJuXmbH6b5pJhQtI_2DtxSZscgxi5wsqpGLm7GSIsi XfuL9KbRKzDCyvA&s=1

[AdvEvo]

I was at the autosport show birmingham thursday and Friday.

There was a nice wall with all the prices of various cars.

http://i59.tinypic.com/29z5281.jpg

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Ironically, we didn't see M-Sport Fiesta RX version..

[Vladik]

Ironically, we didn't see M-Sport Fiesta RX version..

why? Ken Block is driving Fiesta RX, which builded by M-sport

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

why? Ken Block is driving Fiesta RX, which builded by M-sport

Sorry, I thought RX is one of the his three modes Fiesta..(Rally, RX, Gymkhana)

[RS]

Lappi has been testing the Fabia R5 on icy tarmac today.

[[WRCRR]]

Lappi has been testing the Fabia R5 on icy tarmac today.

Any chance of video/photos?

[Mirek]

Lappi has been testing the Fabia R5 on icy tarmac today.

A little off-topic Ron for You. Yesterday night I met the new Superb without any camouflage (except removed Škoda logos) on the motorway. I saw it only in the darkness but it looked nothing like the recent one. Way more sporty and stylish :)

[RS]

A little off-topic Ron for You. Yesterday night I met the new Superb without any camouflage (except removed Škoda logos) on the motorway. I saw it only in the darkness but it looked nothing like the recent one. Way more sporty and stylish :)

Sounds good.. only a few weeks now until the official presentation :)

[PLuto]

A little off-topic Ron for You. Yesterday night I met the new Superb without any camouflage (except removed Škoda logos) on the motorway. I saw it only in the darkness but it looked nothing like the recent one. Way more sporty and stylish :)

I am afraid you should write it more to circuit thread than R5...

[RS]

I am afraid you should write it more to circuit thread than R5...

Why? Are Skoda planning to go back to Le Mans?

[polo10]

A little off-topic Ron for You. Yesterday night I met the new Superb without any camouflage (except removed Škoda logos) on the motorway. I saw it only in the darkness but it looked nothing like the recent one. Way more sporty and stylish :)
I have already seen it And the superb break Also ...really,really Nice ...

[Tom206wrc]

French driver from Normandy Stéphane Pustelnik presented on friday the new car he will drive this year in the Coupe de France des Rallyes ;)

He will also represent the korean manufacturer Kumho in France...

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/une-208-lassaut-de-la-coupe/

[Jarek Z]

Stephane Pustelnik! Damn it, I didn't even know that he was still active in rallying! I remember him driving his beautiful Renault Maxi Megane in the French championship. Thanks for the news Tom!

By the way - his last name is Polish and it means a recluse or a hermit :)

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m272/ze73/rallyes/2001_pustelnik_finale.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Last year Pustelnik drove a 207 S2000 in a few french events and was then codriven by his daughter Léa ;)

[Andre Oliveira]

He did Alsace too: http://ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=11605&t=Stephane-Pustelnik

[liposh]

To be totally honest, Stephane is not interesting for me, but Léa could be.

[Andre Oliveira]

5 new Fiesta R5 soon at Italy :) Well done Mr. Wilson

Tagai selling the rebuilt 208 R5.

[RS]

Familiar story?: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117388

[polo10]

Familiar story?: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117388
Different one...with R5 they are fast but not reliable...in Dakar they where reliable(finish) but they where not fast...Peugeot Sport is not what they used to be...

[Mirek]

They were not reliable either. All three cars had a lot of problems especially in the first legs.

[AndyRAC]

Not enough testing. Do they really have the budget? Especially for 3 cars? That is why they pulled the 908 LMP programme. The Pikes Peak project was relatively cheap - the car was a 'parts bin special'.

[Tom206wrc]

Jonathan Greer drove for the first time a Citroën DS3 R5 last week-end in the "New Year Stages Rally" in UK...was it his new car or a rented one :confused:

[John Williams]

Jonathan Greer drove for the first time a Citroën DS3 R5 last week-end in the "New Year Stages Rally" in UK...was it his new car or a rented one :confused:

Brand new car. Built by his family's DGM company.

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks John ;)

[Andre Oliveira]

Chassis 18, DGM built the chassis 7 too :) to who?

[Andre Oliveira]

Kenya

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/s480x480/10924732_508557332617790_4649854344392932045_n.jpg ?oh=62b4a33ff0f1f6125c33ca9ad2ef68d6&oe=5563DC77&__gda__=1428880549_8f0de974adc429977f909f04c3c64af b

[mousti]

Brand new car. Built by his family's DGM company.

Will he go abroad with it?

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[pucky54]

Chassis 18, DGM built the chassis 7 too :) to who?

Cronin I guess :)

[Tom206wrc]

Looks like swedish drivers Thomas Thunström and Robin Friberg will be in the same team with their DS3 R5 :confused:
http://www.facebook.com/ThunstromMotorsport

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Plenty of Craig Breen & other R5 action here during testing at Monte Carlo... http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2f0htn_essais-monte-carlo-2015-5-equipages_auto

SD pic (still no rear bumper on the 208 ;) )

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10942736_767261543353750_3490485577644338451_n.jpg ?oh=5c3d014ba41ed9a77b295809e1907784&oe=55215BA6&__gda__=1428710010_c579157afc06b0162890d9c08d3bb4e c

[makinen_fan]

Mitsubishi R5 test. Sounds like a Lancer EVO gr A with ALS from Gr A era!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V0H1KttDNg&feature=youtu.be

[Jarek Z]

I like that sound man!

[HaCo]

Were the R5's more reliable in Monte Carlo, especially the PSA ones?

[RS]

Were the R5's more reliable in Monte Carlo, especially the PSA ones?

Well they finished!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Were the R5's more reliable in Monte Carlo, especially the PSA ones?

Breen's 208T16 seemed to run fault-free for once :) and the only issue was a puncture and difficulty finding the right set-up...

But after about two days Breen reported it was sorted:
'Finally! I have to take my hat off to my engineer, he's made a big, big, big improvement. After our test I thought I knew how to set the car up - but now we are on the correct setup. My rally starts here !'

http://www.craigbreen.com/news.php?&id=550

http://www.craigbreen.com/images/news/full_craigmonte.jpg

[Jack4688`]

Mitsubishi R5 test. Sounds like a Lancer EVO gr A with ALS from Gr A era!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V0H1KttDNg&feature=youtu.be

Now they just need to put the engine and other mechanicals into a saloon body instead of that pensioner's shopping trolley!

[Andre Oliveira]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10943112_10152496559596901_9205639049711024378_n.j pg?oh=72abdf5409980152a6683b62d76115ed&oe=5564C124&__gda__=1432832859_3a2e0b587bf83f1fecb803882d1e9df 2

https://scontent-a-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/1907934_10152496559131901_3715493736491849716_n.jp g?oh=dccd7d82526dee1a233b1b08d940f8b9&oe=556262FB

[mousti]

The 208 of Hirschi is VERY strong (he survived so much already at Jänner :D) and powerfull.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8THr0omOMY&list=PLVyRAt2cxbxsXY3FnRKASR0GZZy_Jm1_g

[Tom206wrc]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10943112_10152496559596901_9205639049711024378_n.j pg?oh=72abdf5409980152a6683b62d76115ed&oe=5564C124&__gda__=1432832859_3a2e0b587bf83f1fecb803882d1e9df 2

https://scontent-a-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/1907934_10152496559131901_3715493736491849716_n.jp g?oh=dccd7d82526dee1a233b1b08d940f8b9&oe=556262FB



Whose 208 is this :confused:

[RICARDO75]

Whose 208 is this :confused:

Björn Adolfsson

[Sulland]

Mitsubishi R5 test. Sounds like a Lancer EVO gr A with ALS from Gr A era!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V0H1KttDNg&feature=youtu.be

It almost sounds like it is a 2 litre engine in it!

[Mirek]

I guess it actually is the 2 litre engine with shortened stroke. Probably not the older 4G63 but new 4B11.

[mousti]

Stephen Wright bought a Fiesta R5 for Ireland and some Belgian Rallies.

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[Andre Oliveira]

I have the information:

80 – Fnckmatie – Shell only
81 - Triple M – Shell only
82 - C-Car Sport – Shell only
83 - Total TIM – Shell only
84 - Stohl Racing – Shell only
86 – Ricardo Moura – Shell only
92 - Didier Arias – Shell only

So, Bertelli re-shell after Finland 2014
Moura after Madeira.

And the others one?
Arias had big accident?
What teams are Triple M, Total TIM?
What car is from Stohl racing?

[Vladik]

What teams are Triple M....?


It's MM-Motorsports legal name. If I don't mistaken shell #81 is for chassis #37 after huge crash in rally Estonia 2014

[Andre Oliveira]

Thanks ;)

82, 83, 84 and 92 missing ;)

[Andre Oliveira]

C-Car is Koltun

[Co-driven]

I have the information:

80 – Fnckmatie – Shell only
81 - Triple M – Shell only
82 - C-Car Sport – Shell only
83 - Total TIM – Shell only
84 - Stohl Racing – Shell only
86 – Ricardo Moura – Shell only
92 - Didier Arias – Shell only

So, Bertelli re-shell after Finland 2014
Moura after Madeira.

And the others one?
Arias had big accident?
What teams are Triple M, Total TIM?
What car is from Stohl racing?

Yes, Arias had a huge accident on the last round of Paraguayan Championship.

[Tom206wrc]

Björn Adolfsson


Thanks ;)

[RICARDO75]

I guess it actually is the 2 litre engine with shortened stroke. Probably not the older 4G63 but new 4B11.

Yes it is. Almost everything on that car is from the Evo X

[Tom206wrc]

Eric Mauffrey's future livery can be seen on http://www.forum-rallye.com/index.php?/topic/624-peugeot-208-t16-r5/page-5 and is rather lovely(to my taste) :cool:

[PLuto]

Eric Mauffrey's future livery can be seen on http://www.forum-rallye.com/index.php?/topic/624-peugeot-208-t16-r5/page-5 and is rather lovely(to my taste) :cool:

Do you know more about his programme?

[RICARDO75]

French championship for Eric Mauffrey

[Tom206wrc]

French championship for Eric Mauffrey


More exactly Trophée Michelin like he does since several years now ;)

[Rallyper]

I guess it actually is the 2 litre engine with shortened stroke. Probably not the older 4G63 but new 4B11.

It is two-litre engine downsized to 1,6.

[Andre Oliveira]

Yes, Arias had a huge accident on the last round of Paraguayan Championship.

Confirmed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2QpR0UIEAA5xrL.jpg

[Andre Oliveira]

Still to know, total TIM (never heard such team) and Stohl Racing one

[Rallyper]

Confirmed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2QpR0UIEAA5xrL.jpg

New bodyshell I´d reckon.

[TheFlyingTuga]

I don't know if anybody had posted this already, but damm, Kopecky looks fast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84924572&v=DuAXx2I91bA&x-yt-ts=1422411861

[RS]

I don't know if anybody had posted this already, but damm, Kopecky looks fast

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=84924572&v=DuAXx2I91bA&x-yt-ts=1422411861

Very good.. is this a new test or Kopecky's running from previous test we saw where Baumschlager drove? It looks like same location.

[RS]

Seems to be a new test, another couple of clips:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6ag7v1UTOU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F97GFsmurE

[WUff1]

Fabia R5 will be homologated on 01.04.2015. So start in in ERC with Circuit of Ireland?

[mousti]

Fabia R5 will be homologated on 01.04.2015. So start in in ERC with Circuit of Ireland?

Is that official?

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[Ounin]

Or a debut with less European media attention to start with, in Belgium with Freddy Loix in the TAC rally one week later 11th April ? Freddy was one of the most prominent drivers involved in the development of this car so why not.

[tommeke_B]

Or a debut with less European media attention to start with, in Belgium with Freddy Loix in the TAC rally one week later 11th April ? Freddy was one of the most prominent drivers involved in the development of this car so why not.

I think it Freddy will drive it starting from Rallye de Wallonie. First 3 events (if he drives all 3) probably with S2000.

[WUff1]

Is that official?

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It´s written in that article in german rallye-magazin.de about Armin Kemer: http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm/nachrichten/news-detail/d/2015/01/28/kremer-fiebert-fabia-r5-entgegen/index.html

[PLuto]

I think it is still too early to predict when it will be homologated. In WRC they want to have first start in Portugal. If everything goes well, it will have also first start in Czech championship at the end of April. But there is also chance to see the car in Italy...

[RS]

Lappi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNa83927cck

[mousti]

There were some talks here that Pita tested a 208 R5. He just posted this

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/1956922_843357949039864_7311755779000681517_o.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

A rumour of 208 T16 for Xavi Pons has been denied later...I didn't even know such rumour existed :confused:

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Probably it would be April Fool..(I hope I'm wrong)

[Rasantes]

A rumour of 208 T16 for Xavi Pons has been denied later...I didn't even know such rumour existed :confused:

Pons will be this season in WRC2. In mid-February the program was announced. Is not yet known which car will be, if Peugeot, Ford or Citroën. What is clear is that it will be in a R5.

[liposh]

Honestly, such step doesn´t make any sense to me. He already is an SWRC champion. But that´s just me. I don´t get the sense of competing in WRC2 which has zero medial coverage. Pluto told me those young guys are competing in WRC2 because it has "big name " for sponsors and they would like to learn the WRC stages for future. But why Pons...and his return after 5 years?

[Rasantes]

Honestly, such step doesn´t make any sense to me. He already is an SWRC champion. But that´s just me. I don´t get the sense of competing in WRC2 which has zero medial coverage. Pluto told me those young guys are competing in WRC2 because it has "big name " for sponsors and they would like to learn the WRC stages for future. But why Pons...and his return after 5 years?

It is the decision of its sponsor, ACSM Marine Services. They want to come back and so will. They see the WRC2 as a good place to publicize your company through sponsoring Pons.

[mousti]

Pons probably got more airtime from Ypres than he will get in 2015 in SWRC..

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[RS]

Pons probably got more airtime from Ypres than he will get in 2015 in SWRC..

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True, but Pons could have a serious chance of the WRC2 title, probably not in ERC.

[PLuto]

True, but Pons could have a serious chance of the WRC2 title, probably not in ERC.

Serious chance to win WRC2 title? I dont think so...

[RS]

Serious chance to win WRC2 title? I dont think so...

Not on speed, but WRC2 is not so much about speed. For example Tanak finished 6th in WRC2 last year.

[PLuto]

Not on speed, but WRC2 is not so much about speed. For example Tanak finished 6th in WRC2 last year.

I know it is not about speed. But still ;)

[RICARDO75]

RMC Motorsport sold their Fiesta R5 to Catalunya for Eduard Forés.

So, Miguel Fuster should have new car for 2015

[Rasantes]

RMC Motorsport sold their Fiesta R5 to Catalunya for Eduard Forés.

No, for Fores no. The Fiesta R5 which has sold RMC Motorsport is for Josep Maria Membrado.

[RICARDO75]

No, for Fores no. The Fiesta R5 which has sold RMC Motorsport is for Josep Maria Membrado.

Thanks :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Skoda plans to run WRC2 programme, says YLE. Planned to start from Portugal with Fabia R5 & Lappi, Kremer and Kreim ...

[Andre Oliveira]

RMC bought 2 new Fiesta R5

[PLuto]

Skoda plans to run WRC2 programme, says YLE. Planned to start from Portugal with Fabia R5 & Lappi, Kremer and Kreim ...

Kreim is planning to do only german championship. And Kremer is not part of official Skoda programme.

[liposh]

And who is that mysterious YLE guy? :-D ...what is YLE?

[N.O.T]

Finnish TV channel.

[tommeke_B]

Indeed. Several TV and radio channels, owned by the government (like BBC but in Finland). If you ever go to Rally Finland, YLE Ralliradio is the best rally radio you can imagine, something you cannot miss when driving from one stage to another... :)

[Vladik]

MM-Motorsport sold 2 Fiesta R5: chassis #3 (SP0302) and #18 (SP 0344).

[Tom206wrc]

Maybe Stefano Albertini in full CIR program with Munaretto 208 T16(strong rumour for now) ;)

[Co-driven]

Still to know, total TIM (never heard such team) and Stohl Racing one

I don't know if you already accounted, but Augus Bestard from Paraguay also has a new Fiesta R5.

[Andre Oliveira]

MM-Motorsport sold 2 Fiesta R5: chassis #3 (SP0302) and #18 (SP 0344).

#18 to Pascal Perroud (CH)
#3 to who?

[Andre Oliveira]

For Total TIM gone only shell :)

[Mirek]

Lappi testing Fabia R5 in Italy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNa83927cck&x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404&feature=player_embedded

[b3637853]

Lappi testing Fabia R5 in Italy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNa83927cck&x-yt-ts=1422579428&x-yt-cl=85114404&feature=player_embedded

I think Kopecky was also testing Fabia in Italy. By the way what is the program for him for 2015, has he said anything?
Looking more general on his career what you think his next step should be? I mean he tried WRC in Fabia WRC, but it wasn't competetive car yet he still managed to score some points (and 5th place in Rallye Deutschland). He was close on winning IRC and finally won ERC in 2013 then APRC last year. There is no doubt he is a good driver and not that old yet. With some WRC experience he could do well there, but I suppose his contract with Skoda will define his future. WRC-2 is an option with Fabia R5 but is it really challenging for him? What you guys think?

[Reis Eduardo]

The information in the video he also tested in Italy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuAXx2I91bA

[Mirek]

I think Kopecky was also testing Fabia in Italy. By the way what is the program for him for 2015, has he said anything?
Looking more general on his career what you think his next step should be? I mean he tried WRC in Fabia WRC, but it wasn't competetive car yet he still managed to score some points (and 5th place in Rallye Deutschland). He was close on winning IRC and finally won ERC in 2013 then APRC last year. There is no doubt he is a good driver and not that old yet. With some WRC experience he could do well there, but I suppose his contract with Skoda will define his future. WRC-2 is an option with Fabia R5 but is it really challenging for him? What you guys think?

I'm fairly sure Kopecký will stay with Škoda and compete in whatever championship they send him in. My personal guess is that he will do some events of ERC and Czech championship this year and full ERC next year.

[RS]

I don't get the impression Kopecky has any grand ambitions to drive in WRC. He never quite had the 'edge' of his teammates, however he usually brings the results in wherever Skoda send him so I am sure it is mutually beneficial for them to stay together.

Maybe he could be involved in this project too if it comes to fruition, after all he used to be a circuit racer: http://www.toilef1.com/WTCC-La-piste-Skoda.html

[AL14]

The information in the video he also tested in Italy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuAXx2I91bA

Another Einstein staying in the wrong side of the corner...

[Tom206wrc]

From Germany: ROMO team bought a 208 T16, and Nico Leschorn(son of the team' boss)will drive it in german rallies championship this season ;)

[liposh]

...however he usually brings the results in wherever Skoda send him so I am sure it is mutually beneficial for them to stay together.

Agree, but on the other hand I think he is now in better shape than in WRC era, or IRC era. Cooperation with Dresler made him even faster. I have been wondering for last 3 years what it would be if Kopecky will drive against Prokop somewhere. In my opinion Kopecky is better, but just my personal opinion.

[WUff1]

From Germany: ROMO team bought a 208 T16, and Nico Leschorn(son of the team' boss)will drive it in german rallies championship this season ;)

German championship will be interesting this year. Some R5/S2000 cars (in 2014 there were hardly any), Mark Wallenwein back, and not only fighting between Zeltner and Gassner jun.

[Mirek]

Agree, but on the other hand I think he is now in better shape than in WRC era, or IRC era. Cooperation with Dresler made him even faster. I have been wondering for last 3 years what it would be if Kopecky will drive against Prokop somewhere. In my opinion Kopecky is better, but just my personal opinion.

Kopecký is definitely faster than Prokop on asphalt. On gravel maybe not but I wouldn't be surprised if he was faster there too. The other thing is that Prokop has huge experience with WRC events which Kopecký doesn't have. Of course the same goes the opposite way about the events Kopecký knows and Prokop not. Anyway if they would ever met on a neutral soil I would bet on Kopecký.

[b3637853]

Kopecký is definitely faster than Prokop on asphalt. On gravel maybe not but I wouldn't be surprised if he was faster there too. The other thing is that Prokop has huge experience with WRC events which Kopecký doesn't have. Of course the same goes the opposite way about the events Kopecký knows and Prokop not. Anyway if they would ever met on a neutral soil I would bet on Kopecký.

Agree with both of you and I would say Kopecky way faster then Prokop (btw have they ever met, do we have any comparison form Czech Championship or somewhere else?). Obviously Prokop has the knowledge of current WRC events and quite a experience, but he is not improving. His only good results come from consistency so from time to time he'll get top 5 place. If, like someone wrote, Kopecky doesn't have any WRC ambitions then it's fine. He can another 10 ERC campaigns or win some African/South America titles. But I would like to see him in competetive car in some WRC events.

[Mirek]

Last time I remember Kopecký and Prokop in the same event was IRC Barum rally 2009 where Kopecký drove works Fabia S2000 and Prokop works Peugeot 207 S2000 (he was chosen as BFG driver for the event).

Here is Prokop's stats from the event (5th overall, only two stages in top 3 and two offs): http://ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=404&d=36015&t=Barum-Czech-Rally-Zlin-2009
Here is Kopecký's stats from the event (victory and 7 stage wins): http://ewrc-results.com/driver_info.php?e=404&d=36022&t=Barum-Czech-Rally-Zlin-2009

For Prokop it was his first ever S2000 start but still the difference was really big.

[RS]

Another vote for Kopecky over Prokop.. I also agree on Liposh' point about Dresler. I think they have won the majority of events which they started together.

I would like to see Kopecky in the Fabia R5 on one or two WRC events to see what he could do, Deutschland or Catalunya for example where he was fast even with the Fabia WRC.

[Jarek Z]

Have you heard that the Swedish Mitsubishi R5 didn't get the homologation? The creators of this project must be very disappointed.

[AndyRAC]

While I'm sorry for them, I can't say I'm surprised. Just looking at the car, it looks like a 'home made special'. And not a car for International events.

[TheFlyingTuga]

Have you heard that the Swedish Mitsubishi R5 didn't get the homologation? The creators of this project must be very disappointed.

In their official Facebook this is what they say:

Following its brief appraisal outing two weeks ago, the car is going through a process of technical accreditation. This has included a visit by representatives of the SBF (Svenska Bilsportförbundet - the governing body for Motorsport in Sweden), who are now assessing the information. The technical accreditation will enable the Mitsubishi R5 to enter national events as part of its planned development programme.
We want to start the test and development programme as soon as possible and entered this weekend’s opening round of the Swedish Rally Championship in advance of the technical accreditation being completed - just in case we had the opportunity to run the car. Whilst there was nothing wrong from a technical perspective, we have to wait for the paperwork to be signed off, so we are now planning to enter the next round of the Swedish Championship.
The first test (see video below) surpassed our expectations in every way. Other than a couple of small tweaks the car ran perfectly from the moment it was started to the moment we put it back on the trailer – and that’s not just a PR sound bite, it’s what really happened. We were particularly pleased with the performance of the Öhlins suspension that has been developed especially for the Mitsubishi R5. This was only the first test, so we know there’s much more to come from the car.
Development work is scheduled to recommence next week.

[Jarek Z]

Well, according to http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/mitsubishi-r5-nie-startuje,59526 Martin Berglund, who was supposed to drive Mitsubishi R5 on Vinterpokalen, said that their car wasn't accepted by the Swedish federation and it stops their rally program in the Swedish championship. In a bitter way he also sent his congratulations to all the people who were against this project.

[TheFlyingTuga]

Well, in his FB page, he said that, and then shared the news that I posted in here. I'm going to ask a friend of mine that knows him. Hope the project goes forward and can see this car running some ERC events as well.

Love the livery concept:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1977316_326446440896177_6241692665708489596_n.jpg? oh=b1f1ce4470476ca804ea4b0ad12bc8f8&oe=555C6764&__gda__=1430855167_fc6d7d815846b99da2995f9862eb0d1 3

[Jarek Z]

Love the livery concept:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/1977316_326446440896177_6241692665708489596_n.jpg? oh=b1f1ce4470476ca804ea4b0ad12bc8f8&oe=555C6764&__gda__=1430855167_fc6d7d815846b99da2995f9862eb0d1 3

Beautiful!

[mousti]

Some positive news!!

@peterbaert 8 feb. Vertaling weergeven
Opel Motorsport confirms to #eurosport working on R5-project based on Corsa for 2016, but nothing decided yet @fiaerc

[RICARDO75]

Well, according to http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/mitsubishi-r5-nie-startuje,59526 Martin Berglund, who was supposed to drive Mitsubishi R5 on Vinterpokalen, said that their car wasn't accepted by the Swedish federation and it stops their rally program in the Swedish championship. In a bitter way he also sent his congratulations to all the people who were against this project.

I think the new Mitsubishi R5 will race at Östersund Winter Rally on the end of this month

[tolis]

I think the new Mitsubishi R5 will race at Östersund Winter Rally on the end of this month
Source?

[Sulland]

I interpret the facebook text so that they did not get the homologation peperwork ready for the first rally of the swedish championship, but hopes that SBF will get it finished for the next round.
As I interpret Berglund he was just pissed since he had planned to run the chapionship, and now misses a round.

i guess doing a national homologation also takes some time.

Does anybody have other news, or inside information?

[Sulland]

Some positive news!!

@peterbaert 8 feb. Vertaling weergeven
Opel Motorsport confirms to #eurosport working on R5-project based on Corsa for 2016, but nothing decided yet @fiaerc

http://www.motoringresearch.com/news/opel-corsa-consideration-european-rally-championship-0512942808

[TheFlyingTuga]

Well, now it's confirmed that Opel Motorsport it's doing something, probably based on the OPC. The R5 car list is up to 6, if Hyundai it's really working on one as well.

Didn't MEM have mentioned something back in the day about a Proton R5 effort?

[Sulland]

I interpret the facebook text so that they did not get the homologation peperwork ready for the first rally of the swedish championship, but hopes that SBF will get it finished for the next round.
As I interpret Berglund he was just pissed since he had planned to run the chapionship, and now misses a round.

i guess doing a national homologation also takes some time.

Does anybody have other news, or inside information?

reason for non approval rumors say was TIG instead of MIG welded cage. So small potatoes to fix I guess!

[Mirek]

What's wrong with TIG?

[Jeppe]

That TIG welding cannot be the reason. Almost all of the T45 roll cages are and are advised to weld with the TIG. The welding itself can be the reason if it´s made by the person who cannot weld. Maybe the problem is related to roll cage homologation?!

[Micke_VOC]

I think this is why.
Article 261 - SPECIFIC REGULATIONS FOR CARS IN GROUP R5
Side 15
900-a0
Only parts authorised by the present regulations and/or parts mentioned in the “modifications /
lightening of the body” VO may be removed.
TIG type welds are prohibited for the body shell and roll cage.

http://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/regulation/file/261%20%282015%29.pdf

[Mirek]

That's interesting, thanks. I wonder why. I'm no technologist but I do remember that TIG and MIG main difference is that MIG uses meltable metal electrode while TIG uses tungsten one which doesn't add any material to the weld. I thought TIG was preferred for thin material welding but it's a long time I learned about that at school...

[RS]

Skoda have been testing the Fabia R5 on icy tarmac in the Czech Republic the last two days.

[br21]

little bit off-topic, but once I was discussing about roll-cages with Prodrive engineer and he showed me some tests they made. They find out strength was same with MIG and TIG welding and MIG was simply cheaper and quicker, so all their FIA homologated cages they were making with MIG.
Maybe also in case of R5 it's becuse of costs?

[Mirek]

Could be an explanation. Dziekuje.

[RS]

Loix testing Fabia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IzqRrXhIBQ

Maybe I am talking bullshit, but I have the impression this car is geared quite long but has a super-torquey engine, which is similar to the winning recipe of the Fabia S2000 (relatively speaking).

The car rockets up that twisty uphill section barely using any revs.

[Mirek]

You are fully right. According to my info the standard gearbox of Fabia R5 has much longer gears than other R5 and the engine torque curve is very very good.

[RS]

This kind of makes it sound 'lazy' but it looks fast.

We can look forward to seeing what Lappi can do in Finland then :)

[jolle1982]

Special test for rallye hustopece?? ;-) nice stage!!!

[Mirek]

Here one distant shot on snow with wide tyres, not much to see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHoRsd9Hl60

[Tom206wrc]

Eight R5s this coming week-end at Franciacorta International Circuit(Italy): two Fords, five Peugeots and one Citroën ;)

[TheFlyingTuga]

I don't know if it was posted already, but this car looks freakin' fast!

Damm, Skoda will crush their competition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pafBleBKOTU

[dimviii]

video is a bit fast.

[Mirek]

Do You think so? In my opinion it is real speed.

[RS]

I agree with Mirek, it looks fairly consistent with the other videos to me.

Either way, the car looks very well sorted and I am curious to see how it will do on the stages.

[Mirek]

Usually when videos are speed up You can recognize some sounds which doesn't sound right, people around stages move like in a 1910 movie and the grass or trees in the wind move too fast. I can't see any such things here.

[TheFlyingTuga]

Yup, me neither. When I saw dimvii coment last night I thought that he was being sarcastic. What I see in that video it's a fast car with a fast driver. I've saw the Fiesta, 208 and DS3 cars with good drivers, and I don't see them runing like that. Skoda will probably be the "machine" in R5. But, eyes can be fooled and the clock it's what counts... let's see how the car do in Rally Portugal... I'm going to see it first hahaha :P

[RS]

I think testing videos often look more impressive than stage action because when you pound down the same road fifty times you get to know it really well, but the car does look really good.