Rally2 (ex-R5) News

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Its also that Jennings has driven the old Impreza (S12B) for a really long time. That car is physically much bigger then the Mirage and he is used to the the Impreza's high top speed and not being as agile in the technical stages.

Hopefully he'll have some good testing before the Ulster and adapt quickly to the less powerful but more nimble Mirage.

[Mirek]

Odložilík here was switching from S12B to Fiesta R5 and he kept saying that Fiesta is a lot easier to drive. When he was complaining about the car handling it was always about the S12 not the Fiesta.

[RS]

Fabia R5 would make it into top 6 fastest WRC event winners on Finland performance: https://twitter.com/KiwiWRCfan/status/763298643709272064?s=09

[Rally Power]

Fiesta R5 of P&B only have mechanical EVO, old chassis.

Yep, still it can be called Fiesta Evo, just like the one Evans used in MC.

Btw, what are the chassis evolutions you mention and when were they homologated?


Hyundai i20 R5 -> 180.000€ + 25.000€ gravel kit
Ford Fiesta R5 -> 183.600€ + 20.500€ gravel kit
It’s great to know that R5’s are getting less expensive. That’s a 15% discount for the Fiesta, from its earlier price. Maybe Skoda and PSA will also cut their cars prices.

[Andre Oliveira]

March, still some to apply :) Mr Wilson have some cards

[Fast Eddie WRC]

R5 Mirage gets a facelift & new driver, Garry Jennings, on the Ulster Rally...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqDIEcjWgAAv0FW.jpg:large

[Rally Power]

Dytko new Proto also looks great!

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13529042_682403291907168_7904416683557700116_n.jpg ?oh=9c5909a05f55184ff070e3c461c283dd&oe=585C2761
Photo:https://www.facebook.com/sportdytko/

[Mirek]

That car has nothing common with R5. Why have You posted it in R5 news? It could be in GT or WRC threads and it would have same relevance.

[Sulland]

Anyone with info on if FIA homologation is moving closer, and if so how close are they?


R5 Mirage gets a facelift & new driver, Garry Jennings, on the Ulster Rally...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqDIEcjWgAAv0FW.jpg:large

[dimviii]

Abbring testing hyundai r5 at asphalt
https://youtu.be/WjxZUH345eI

https://scontent-cdg2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13963095_1052412031472490_4171051099966114158_o.jp g

https://web.facebook.com/maXicorde/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1052411908139169&_rdr

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Jennings livery for Ulster

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqJiS03WAAAITKg.jpg:large

Spencer Sport:

It's been a busy few days for us in Ireland, as we prepare for the Ulster Rally that takes place tomorrow (Friday) and Saturday. After arriving on Monday, we carried out an extensive test with Garry Jennings & Rory Kennedy in the Mitsubishi R5.

With almost a full-day's running on closed stretches of road, we were able to run through our programme and get both cars dialled in and set up to deal with the unique character of the Northern Irish asphalt. Garry got to grips with the Mirage and came away from the test very satisfied with progress.

A re-prep of both cars took place yesterday (Wednesday), followed by a brief shakedown and the re-livery of the Mirage in the colours of Garry's sponsors 'Go'. Scrutineering in Derry/Londonderry takes place later today.

[Andre Oliveira]

Proton Iriz R5???

https://www.facebook.com/ChicaneMedia/

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14051760_1269518829726998_768515044087761564_n.jpg ?oh=34a6dcb51c42ebcd7c72d68c75129118&oe=584C9B9D

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0r_eZ9fOas Test video from the i20 R5. Looks less impressive than in Ypres imo.

[liposh]

It seems so. It might be Proton Iriz R5. Again it seems to me very beautiful. Anyway the real question is: "Will it be fast enough and competitive?" Fingers crossed for that.

[Rally Power]

Nice surprise! It's fair to say that MEM did a good job on the S2000 Satria, considering they had slighter resources than the other manus tuners.

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Proton Iriz R5???

https://www.facebook.com/ChicaneMedia/

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14051760_1269518829726998_768515044087761564_n.jpg ?oh=34a6dcb51c42ebcd7c72d68c75129118&oe=584C9B9D
I've foreseen this several posts ago.. :cool:

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[Jarek Z]

It seems so. It might be Proton Iriz R5. Again it seems to me very beautiful.

Beautiful? I'm afraid Proton Iriz is going to compete with Mitsubishi Mirage for the title of the ugliest R5 car ever...

http://assets.autobuzz.my/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/23200051/2015-Proton-Iriz-R3-MTC-Sepang-26-990x660.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Jennings livery for Ulster

The Mirage looks much better with such good livery!

[Andre Oliveira]

Beautiful? I'm afraid Proton Iriz is going to compete with Mitsubishi Mirage for the title of the ugliest R5 car ever...

http://assets.autobuzz.my/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/23200051/2015-Proton-Iriz-R3-MTC-Sepang-26-990x660.jpg

Don't compare circuit car with that from photo ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Slow start for Jennings in the Mirage in Ulster - only 13th on SS1 - 43sec down.

Jennings: 'The R5 is completely different to drive'

But some bad conditions there for him in a new car...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqObTY5XgAADXen.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Slow start for Jennings in the Mirage in Ulster - only 13th on SS1 - 43sec down.

13th place is very bad indeed. But... is it something wrong with the results website or is the Mirage faster than Elfyn Evans and everybody else on SS2???

[Fast Eddie WRC]

13th place is very bad indeed. But... is it something wrong with the results website or is the Mirage faster than Elfyn Evans and everybody else on SS2???

Still trying to get confirmation... extraordinary if true. Maybe he took a chance on a slick tyre and it worked ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Irish Tarmac C'Ship ‏@IrishTarmacTROA
Garry Jennings showing as fastest on SS2 but time is likely 1 minute out.

EDIT SS2 time for Jennings now amended 10th fastest on stage.

EDIT 11th time on SS3, 12th O/A.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS4 Jennings attacked... says the Mirage was flying... but then the brake pedal went to the floor. Shame.

[RS]

Fabia R5 scored it's 200th WRC2 stage win today in Germany.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Disappointing news... turbo issues means that Jenning's Mirage R5 is a non start today at Ulster Rally.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Better news... Leading the Ulster National Rally Cup now is Robert Blomberg, in his Mitsubishi Mirage R5.

[Jarek Z]

Bad news again. Robert Blomberg in his Mitsubishi Mirage R5 only 11th overall in the event called "Ulster National B Rally" (I have no idea what it is, it seems there are 3 Ulster rallies in one?). He lost a lot of time and is placed many minutes behind some 30-year old historic cars. Very bad weekend for Mitsubishi Mirage:
http://www.ulsterrally.com/media/43267/ur16-final-results-nat-b.pdf

[Rally Power]

After two troubled events (Portugal and Italy), several test sessions and some postponed rally entries, Peugeot Sport got back to WRC2 in Germany, giving Suarez a chance to resume the Academy program.

According to Revista Scratch website (http://www.revistascratch.com/wrc/noticia/peugeot-da-un-paso-atras-la-evolucion-para-sus-r5-no-funciona-33891), the car seen in Germany was a freshly built 208 unit, without the Evo Kit. Apparently, in order to fix the previous cooling problems they’ve made changes on the steering system, creating new reliability issues. As it’s mandatory to use all the Kit parts, the official decision was to not install it anymore and wait for the homologation of a new one.

Having in mind the great work PS did in the previous rally costumers programs, it’s really sad to see them completely lost on the 208 R5 development. This radical option to throw away the Evo Kit also raises some questions: why can private teams use it, some successfully, and PS (through SaintELoc) not? Are those private teams using all the Kit parts or, against the rules, just some of them? When will a new Evo Kit came out?

Peugeot (and Citroen) R5 programs are important in WRC2 and, mostly, on regional and national series. Let’s hope they can fix this mess, once and for all.

[TWRC]

After two troubled events (Portugal and Italy), several test sessions and some postponed rally entries, Peugeot Sport got back to WRC2 in Germany, giving Suarez a chance to resume the Academy program.

According to Revista Scratch website (http://www.revistascratch.com/wrc/noticia/peugeot-da-un-paso-atras-la-evolucion-para-sus-r5-no-funciona-33891), the car seen in Germany was a freshly built 208 unit, without the Evo Kit. Apparently, in order to fix the previous cooling problems they’ve made changes on the steering system, creating new reliability issues. As it’s mandatory to use all the Kit parts, the official decision was to not install it anymore and wait for the homologation of a new one.

Having in mind the great work PS did in the previous rally costumers programs, it’s really sad to see them completely lost on the 208 R5 development. This radical option to throw away the Evo Kit also raises some questions: why can private teams use it, some successfully, and PS (through SaintELoc) not? Are those private teams using all the Kit parts or, against the rules, just some of them? When will a new Evo Kit came out?

Peugeot (and Citroen) R5 programs are important in WRC2 and, mostly, on regional and national series. Let’s hope they can fix this mess, once and for all.
I don't know about other private teams, but Peugeot Sport Hungaria / TRT used the full Evo kit on two gravel rounds this season, and both ended in a 6th place finish (mainly due to tyre problems though). On the last round however, Tóth used the old model again, and was beating Herczig with the Fabia R5 until a puncture. But as far as I saw, Ptaszek was using a new Evo car from TRT in Germany...
As far as the steering goes, Yoann Bonato wasn't happy with it after his first rally in the DS3 Evo, because the steering gave back very little info on what the grip was like.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

More on the Mirage R5 in Ulster:

'Garry Jennings, a two-time winner of the event, pulled out when his debut drive in the development Mitsubishi Mirage was hit by brake and turbo trouble. Used to winning rallies in his WRC Subaru, he was not overly impressed with his first experience of the R5-specification cars on which the British and Irish championships are now based..'

[PLuto]

More on the Mirage R5 in Ulster:

'Garry Jennings, a two-time winner of the event, pulled out when his debut drive in the development Mitsubishi Mirage was hit by brake and turbo trouble. Used to winning rallies in his WRC Subaru, he was not overly impressed with his first experience of the R5-specification cars on which the British and Irish championships are now based..'

I completely understand it. Because R5 is not so powerful like WRC cars and there is "easier" for normal people buy/rent R5 car. So competition is harder than with WRC...

[Andre Oliveira]

Sunoco Racing Fuels finally have engine map to Fiesta R5. 2/3 weeks will be available the fuel

[Jarek Z]

After two troubled events (Portugal and Italy), several test sessions and some postponed rally entries, Peugeot Sport got back to WRC2 in Germany, giving Suarez a chance to resume the Academy program.

(...)

Peugeot (and Citroen) R5 programs are important in WRC2 and, mostly, on regional and national series. Let’s hope they can fix this mess, once and for all.

I don't know if Peugeot's program in WRC2 is important or not, but I'm afraid it is a disaster. Their results are even worse than they had in ERC. Craig Breen was at least able to win a few rallies. Meanwhile Suarez is down in the 18th position, even behind such drivers as Ptaszek!
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc-2/results/championship/drivers/page/537-256---.html

And when I see videos like this, I'm wondering what is worse - the car or the driver? :)
https://www.facebook.com/DefiendeLosRallyesvivelo/videos/vb.259882317531165/507917686060959/?type=2&theater

Still, I wish thaem good luck!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bad news again. Robert Blomberg in his Mitsubishi Mirage R5 only 11th overall in the event called "Ulster National B Rally" (I have no idea what it is, it seems there are 3 Ulster rallies in one?). He lost a lot of time and is placed many minutes behind some 30-year old historic cars. Very bad weekend for Mitsubishi Mirage:
http://www.ulsterrally.com/media/43267/ur16-final-results-nat-b.pdf

BRC tweeted:
Robert Blomberg wins the @SORTOILUK Spirit of the Rally Award and takes his third NRC win on the Ulster Rally ...

[dimviii]

Gary Boyd ‏@KiwiWRCfan

Hyundai R5 will be homologated on Sept 1st with debut at Rally Corsica driven by Stephane Sarrazin via @Italiaracing http://www.italiaracing.net/newsintRally.aspx?id=52128&cat=1&sez=Rally# …

[Andre Oliveira]

Gemini DS3 R5 are in rallycarsforsale.net

[nafpaktos]

All of the psa r5s will be for sale in the near future and no one will be willing to spend money for a car that the manufacturer is not interested anymore.

[liposh]

It is funny that P207 S2000 could be better investment. If you enter some smaller event and your hands are good enough you can be quite on top.

[RS]

Gemini DS3 R5 are in rallycarsforsale.net

Presumably they are not quitting rallying..

[Jarek Z]

Three Hyundais i20 R5 on Tour de Corse - for Kevin Abbring, Stéphane Sarrazin and Fabio Andolfi.

[Rally Power]

I don't know if Peugeot's program in WRC2 is important or not, but I'm afraid it is a disaster. (...)And when I see videos like this, I'm wondering what is worse - the car or the driver? :)
https://www.facebook.com/DefiendeLosRallyesvivelo/videos/vb.259882317531165/507917686060959/?type=2&theater

Suarez is damn fast, but he’s still on ‘overdrive’ mode. He really could use Lundefaret as a coach!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neil Simspon with his Fabia R5 at my local Promenade Stages rally this weekend...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrXhW7gXEAAwh4l.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CraS7FVXgAAXWgv.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrbD6WXWYAA9fwE.jpg:large

Times: http://catalyst.users37.interdns.co.uk/rallyresults/index.php?dest=eventMonitor&id=55

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Why Mirage R5 doesn't have a rear wing like the other cars..?

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[TWRC]

Why Mirage R5 doesn't have a rear wing like the other cars..?

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Asked that on the project's facebook page, they said that "They have to be removed to comply with UK MSA Category 2 regulations."

[dj_masch_hr]

wednesday test photos from italy:

https://www.facebook.com/fotoModlic/photos/?tab=album&album_id=10154498615802733

[TWRC]

There's a new interview with János Tóth before Rally Košice, and he said some interesting things of the 208: http://www.duen.hu/hirek/celba_erni_az_elen_celba_erni
-they struggled with the car as it reacts very differently to setup changes than the other cars ("nothing works on it the way like on a normal car"), but when Andreucci was called to a test, he started them on a good direction and now the car is good on tarmac;
-this wasn't helped by the fact that few teams race this car, so Peugeot Sport can't give much good info;
-they started using the long ratio, but he feels that you still have to drive the car more like a S2000 and not like a "Gr.A turbo car";
-and finally a quote of the problems: "A car has certain capabilities, and so have engineers. And when a not so good engineer designs the rear suspension, the drivers are not happy... The car is very sensitive to the setup, it takes a long time to find a good one."

[RS]

Interesting to hear that from a driver.. you can see the car doesn't have the torque of the other R5s and that the rear end is very loose.

[br21]

For sure it has different engine characteristics than other R5, less torque, so you need to rev it higher. With that I agree. But in my opinion it reacts on setup changes more or less like every other rally or race car. Of course there is totally no setup feedback from Peugeot or Citroen, but that's quite normal, similar with M-Sport, etc. All their base setups are almost useless.

[nafpaktos]

Br21 can you explain me why the factory doesn't give to the customers the set up of the official drivers?of course it is not always useful since a customer may has different driving style and the conditions maybe are different(and maybe other tyres). i am sure that this data cannot be used from a rival company since theιr car will not responds the same way to setup changes.All the privateers complaining for not taking setup data from the factory teams apart from the basics which is basically zero.

[Mirek]

It's very valuable know-how. I find it perfectly logical that they keep it secret.

[nafpaktos]

of course it valuable but you give it to a customer that drives your car,and if he delivers good results then its good for the firm and for the motorsport departement.

[Mirek]

That's not so simple.

[PLuto]

Almost no factory is giving their setups. Lot of their "customer setups" are not useable... But support in all from Citroen Racing/Peugeot Sport is one of the worst in actual rally scene...

[dimviii]

HMI - Hyundai Team ‏@hmirally 3 ώρεςΠριν από 3 ώρες

The 1st Hyundai New Generation i20 R5 arrived today in @hmirally http://hmirally.com #rally #hmi #hyundai #i20R5 #hmirally

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cs0hfamWEAA5NNg.jpg

[Rally Power]

Is the i20 already homologated? Sarrazin is on the entry list of next weekend national French Cup rally: http://www.rallye-sport.fr/liste-engages-rallye-pays-de-fayence-2016/#

Also some speculation about Proton’s R5, from a Malaysian site: http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?p=1064671265

[TWRC]

Is the i20 already homologated? Sarrazin is on the entry list of next weekend national French Cup rally: http://www.rallye-sport.fr/liste-engages-rallye-pays-de-fayence-2016/#

Also some speculation about Proton’s R5, from a Malaysian site: http://www.zerotohundred.com/newforums/showthread.php?p=1064671265
I think it's homologated from 1st September.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Vauxhall Junior boss Simon Mauger to drive Spencer Sport Mitsubishi R5 on the Jersey Rally. The Mirage down the lanes will be cool! https://t.co/2fi1Z1SQzI

[TWRC]

According to Rallye-Sport.fr, Peugeot Sport is currently having a development test in Vosges with an Evo 208, drivers are Suárez and Gilbert.

Edit: Citroën is there with a DS3 too. Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOq5YpDkV3o

[Rally Power]

According to Rallye-Sport.fr, Peugeot Sport is currently having a development test in Vosges with an Evo 208

Peugeot Sport should invite and learn from PS Italia technicians, as they seem to be the only ones able to turn that junk into a competitive rally car...

[dimviii]

Stéphane Sarrazin ‏@Steph_Sarrazin 9 ώρεςΠριν από 9 ώρες

First test day With the Hyundai R5 to prepare @TourdeCorseWRC Thanks to @KCMGComposites @8starmotor @Michelin_Sport


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cs9cC3FWAAQ0Q-e.jpg

[TWRC]

Peugeot Sport should invite and learn from PS Italia technicians, as they seem to be the only ones able to turn that junk into a competitive rally car...
From what I read, mostly they were trying to make the new power steering work, but according to the article it already failed during the first morning. What I noticed is that they were using an oil cooler for the power steering again, and the car had a bit different sound, so maybe new exhaust as well? Time will tell...

[Ucci]

Peugeot Sport should invite and learn from PS Italia technicians, as they seem to be the only ones able to turn that junk into a competitive rally car...

But also Andreucci is loosing against Fiesta R5&Fabia R5....let's wait for this weekend (rally Roma).

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Fiesta R5 no.181 has arrived in Norway, that's R5's worth 42 mill euro sold by M-Sport Ltd !

[AndyRAC]

I find it slightly odd that a current Toyota Factory driver is giving another Manufacturer's car a first competitive outing....

[pantealex]

I find it slightly odd that a current Toyota Factory driver is giving another Manufacturer's car a first competitive outing....

and other Toyota Factory driver is driving Skoda R5.

ofcourse in both cases car from private team, but still...

[RICARDO75]

That's new for me!
Toyota Vitz (Yaris) on Rally Hokkaydo on FIA APRC entry list.
The car looks like the S2000 but with turbo engine. Could be a new R5?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGjhW3jqdXE

[Jarek Z]

Fiesta R5 no.181 has arrived in Norway, that's R5's worth 42 mill euro sold by M-Sport Ltd !

No wonder M-Sport is earning millions on Fiestas R5. For example, this weekend in Rally Hedemark, the last round of Norwegian championship, there are 8 R5 cars competing. All of them are Ford Fiestas:
http://www.ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?e=28305&t=Rally-Hedemarken-2016

[Jarek Z]

Toyota Vitz (Yaris) on Rally Hokkaydo on FIA APRC entry list.
The car looks like the S2000 but with turbo engine. Could be a new R5?

I don't know. Nobody has ever heard about this car. Even the official Japanese Toyota drivers are using Fords :)
http://www.pirelliralli.fi/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/lahtoluettelo.pdf

[Jarek Z]

Speaking of Finland, Juha Salo has just won Finnish Rally Campionship. Could it be the biggest success of Peugeot 208 T16 this year?

http://www.moottoriurheilu.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/salo_juliste_turkusm2.jpg

[TWRC]

Speaking of Finland, Juha Salo has just won Finnish Rally Campionship. Could it be the biggest success of Peugeot 208 T16 this year?

http://www.moottoriurheilu.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/salo_juliste_turkusm2.jpg
If Andreucci won't win the title in Italy or Riedemann in Germany, then most likely so.

[leighton323]

That's new for me!
Toyota Vitz (Yaris) on Rally Hokkaydo on FIA APRC entry list.
The car looks like the S2000 but with turbo engine. Could be a new R5?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGjhW3jqdXE
That's an AP4 car.

http://fiaaprc.com/2016/03/cusco-expand-2016/

Similar to cars built in NZ by Force Motorsport. The class is designed for the niche created between R5 and group N in the Asia Pacific area.

Other cars designed for the class but not yet compliant are :
Hyundai i20 AP4 - http://nzrallycars.weebly.com/jsl191.html

Mazda 2 AP4 - http://nzrallycars.weebly.com/htq248.html

[Zeakiwi]

Also the Inky Skoda AP4+
http://nzrallycars.weebly.com/jhb976.html
And GM Barinas under construction

http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/news/fabie-na-czele,70820 (Sumiyama vitz ap4)

[TWRC]

Videos of Quentin Gilbert's DS3 R5 development test:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpl1/t31.0-8/14372379_1170355443037926_7928271788968142785_o.jp g

https://youtu.be/blRwTq4CuCY
https://youtu.be/mQKKFkKLRdk

[Rally Power]

That's an AP4 car.
(...)Similar to cars built in NZ by Force Motorsport. The class is designed for the niche created between R5 and group N in the Asia Pacific area.


The main advantage from AP4 rules (like those of MR or N5) is to allow private teams to build and homologate competitive rally cars at more affordable prices. This way the sport doesn’t get hostage of manus lack of interest and rally costumers can get a wider and cheaper choice.

It’s a shame that in Europe cars like the Mirage R5 (and probably MEM’s future Iriz R5) won’t be allowed to run alongside similar cars made by manus tuners, simply because they’re not official projects.

[Rally Power]

Eventually, Sarrazin entered Pays de Fayence Rally only as a 0 car. Homologation issues or team option?

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_09_2016/post-109-0-56409000-1474732016.jpg
Photo: forum-rallye.com

[Jarek Z]

Eventually, Sarrazin entered Pays de Fayence Rally only as a 0 car.

Yes, what a disappointment.
Video from Pays de Fayence Rally can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPm6GAQ1qSY

[Rally Power]

Speaking of Finland, Juha Salo has just won Finnish Rally Campionship.

EWrc and other data rally sites have it, but why not try to make our own 2016 national champs (mostly R5’s) record on the European national champs thread? First entry (France) already there.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

i20 R5 of Andolfi ready for TdC ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtcqdegWgAAj8Ex.jpg:large

[Abarth]

Is Toyota working for a R5 project now?

[dimviii]

Is Toyota working for a R5 project now?
i read at twitter, that Nikara was working on r5 yaris with Makinen,but hardly any proof.

[dimviii]

No 100 fabia r5 to team 2C

https://www.facebook.com/104766686227083/photos/a.300313613339055.69066.104766686227083/1093983507305391/?type=3&theater

https://scontent.fath3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14448889_1093983507305391_8663791229666734944_n.jp g?oh=28f92fcd4f6450f7b196cedca4b49eee&oe=586980A6

[Hartusvuori]

i read at twitter, that Nikara was working on r5 yaris with Makinen,but hardly any proof.

Wrong tense. He will be.

[RS]

Disappointing debut for the Hyundai R5 with two mechanical retirements and only a couple of half decent stage times.

Only one type of rally and early days, but normally the best cars are pretty good straight away.

Let's see what Abbring can do in Wales..

[Andre Oliveira]

Shame that Fisher had problems :(

[WUff1]

Hyundai 20 R5 for Gassner Motorsport in Germany:

https://www.rallye-magazin.de/dm/artikel/d/2016/10/04/3-staedte-rallye-gassner-startet-im-hyundai-i20-r5/

[Rally Power]

According to diariomotor, Citroen will speed up C3’s R5 version in order to have ASAP a replacement for the problematic DS3. The Evo kit it's a disgrace and apparently teams can’t remove it once it’s registered on their car’s passport.
http://www.diariomotor.com/competicion/2016/10/05/tras-el-wrc-2017-citroen-ya-trabaja-en-la-creacion-de-una-version-r5-del-c3/

[Jarek Z]

Disappointing debut for the Hyundai R5 with two mechanical retirements and only a couple of half decent stage times.

Only one type of rally and early days, but normally the best cars are pretty good straight away.

Let's see what Abbring can do in Wales..

Yes, very disappointing debut of the new Hyundai. I remember being very surprised when I saw all the optimism before the car even appeared:


Van den Heuvel Motorsport have ordered a Hyundai R5, hoping to drive Rally Germany with it.


First order for the Hyundai i20 R5 from the Italian HMI team.

I even asked the question:


Is that not buying a pig in a poke?

But Mirek assured me that everything was going to be all right:


Their WRC is good and they are very rich and capable team. It's quite sane to expect a good product.

And now look at this - 2 retirements and only Fabio Andolfi at the finish line, over 20 minutes behind the leader...

But there is still hope - let's see what the next event brings - 3 Staedte Rallye in Germany on October 21, with Hermann Gassner behind the wheel... I wish him good luck!

Provisional entry list:
https://3-staedte-rallye.de/pdf/Eingegangene-Nennungen-Alle-2016.pdf

[Jarek Z]

Fabio Andolfi and Manuel Fenoli are going to drive Hyundai i20 R5 in the Rallye International du Valais on October 22-24. Good luck!

http://aciteamitalia.it/public/2016/img/6_Mixed/grandi/andolfi86xrm43922bb.jpg

[dupanton]

Guillaume Dilley won the first rally with a I20 R5. He won a local rally in Belgium this weekend in preparation for the Condroz Rally, last rally of the Belgian Championship.

[Mirek]

Can You post a link to the results?

[Jasper]

Can You post a link to the results?

http://csaphainaut-live.be/live/epreuves/16_ra_tournai/evo4.php

2° => BMW compact, 3° => Celica GT4

[TWRC]

Guillaume Dilley won the first rally with a I20 R5. He won a local rally in Belgium this weekend in preparation for the Condroz Rally, last rally of the Belgian Championship.
Are there any news on him getting the importer sponsorship from Hyundai he was looking for?

[dupanton]

Are there any news on him getting the importer sponsorship from Hyundai he was looking for?

No news. But rumours are that Hyundai Belgium supports Neuville. So the fact he stays with Hyundai, might be bad news for Dilley.

[Jasper]

Was Dilley's car the same one that Sarrazin used in Corsica?

Yes. Even without help Dilley has enough financiers around him to put up a (small) program.

[dupanton]

The car is from First Motorsport (France)

[Jasper]

The car is from First Motorsport (France)

Belgium!? :D

[dupanton]

Belgium!? :D

Exactly...

[TheFlyingTuga]

Somebody took a pic of the Proton Iriz R5 and it ended up on a Portuguese Facebook page!!

Here it is...

https://scontent.fopo1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/l/t1.0-9/14570339_1309826802384204_1472025030885845717_n.jp g?oh=2363de81d23efaba5ed17faa6b29ef92&oe=58AC2D83

Honestly... I don't know what to think about this... looks so...strange

[Andre Oliveira]

Proton Iriz R5???

https://www.facebook.com/ChicaneMedia/

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14051760_1269518829726998_768515044087761564_n.jpg ?oh=34a6dcb51c42ebcd7c72d68c75129118&oe=584C9B9D

Same car

[itix]

Somebody took a pic of the Proton Iriz R5 and it ended up on a Portuguese Facebook page!!

Here it is...

https://scontent.fopo1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/l/t1.0-9/14570339_1309826802384204_1472025030885845717_n.jp g?oh=2363de81d23efaba5ed17faa6b29ef92&oe=58AC2D83

Honestly... I don't know what to think about this... looks so...strange
Not my favorite but prettier than the Skoda.

[RS]

The wheelarches look a bit "stuck on" but what interests me more is the Proton stickers all over the car which gives me some hope the manufacturer will back this project and it will get homologation.

[Rally Power]

The wheelarches look a bit "stuck on" but what interests me more is the Proton stickers all over the car which gives me some hope the manufacturer will back this project and it will get homologation.

That would be great! Fingers crossed.

[TheFlyingTuga]

The car looks like a mock up. If you look closely the bonnet vents are vinyl. I looks like a charmer for Proton.

[Jarek Z]

But there is still hope - let's see what the next event brings - 3 Staedte Rallye in Germany on October 21, with Hermann Gassner behind the wheel... I wish him good luck!

Entry list:
https://3-staedte-rallye.de/pdf/Nennliste-mit-Startnummern.pdf

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Winners of the 2016 Jersey Rally: Simon Mauger and Brian Cammack in the Spencer Sport Mirage R5.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu0rdFCXgAAIWb5.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cu1SVQ1XEAA0NKA.jpg:large

[Rally Power]

Andolfi and Burri Sr. on i20's at next weekend Valais Rally http://www.riv.ch/en/

[WUff1]

Andolfi and Burri Sr. on i20's at next weekend Valais Rally http://www.riv.ch/en/

Very good entry list considering it´s not ERC anymore.

[TWRC]

Andreucci has been testing the 208 T16 with the factory team:
https://youtu.be/YOD9vsu-Yp0

[Rally Power]

Andreucci has been testing the 208 T16 with the factory team:
https://youtu.be/YOD9vsu-Yp0

Finally there’s a sensible move from Peugeot Sport. Hope they’ve also invited PS Italia Engineers.
Btw, nice video and great pace from Ucci.

[Mirek]

It's not the first time he is testing the works car.

[Rally Power]

First time since a long time. I bet he (neither PS Italia) wasn't involved on the Evo kit development.

[Rally Power]

Same news on the i20: Abrring TdC problems were suspension failure and water leak; at least 12 units sold till the end of year. http://www.revistascratch.com/wrc/noticia/hyundai-i20-r5-la-maquina-en-profundidad-34906

[Jarek Z]

Hyundai i20 R5 for Hermann Gassner has just arrived...
https://www.facebook.com/fahrtechnik/photos/pcb.10154075511467039/10154075501277039/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/fahrtechnik/photos/pcb.10154075511467039/10154075501272039/?type=3&theater

[Jarek Z]

Very bad start of Drei Staedte Rally for Hermann Gassner. After very disappointing times on SS1 and SS2 he is in the 42nd position.
Kreim and his Skoda are in the lead. Live results:
http://www.rallyehub.de/livetiming.php?id=8

[Jarek Z]

In the meantime Fabio Andolfi and his new Hyundai are in the second position after the first day (9 stages) of Rallye International du Valais.

[Mirek]

Andolfi is flying - virtually
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14670793_10154558632403808_3094911595892293759_n.j pg?oh=c49eedd036136c0ed31d5137db2c5f0e&oe=589C0B34

[stefanvv]

Someone has to do it instead of Lukyanuk this year.

[Jarek Z]

Andolfi is flying - virtually

That's the way you do it!
https://www.rallye-magazin.de/int/videos/2016/1/crazy-hyundai-jump/

[Jarek Z]

Kreim and his Skoda are in the lead. Live results:
http://www.rallyehub.de/livetiming.php?id=8

Guys, I have a charade for you. Fabian Kreim (Skoda Fabia R5) was leading Drei Staedte Rally after 4 stages. Christian Riedemann (Peugeot 208 T16) was second, 9 seconds behind. One of the cars broke down on SS5. Which car was it? :D

Hint: Fabian Kreim is the new German champion :)

[Jarek Z]

Andolfi is flying - virtually

Unfortunately the young Andolfi tried to fly too close to the sun...
Fabio ANDOLFI/Manuel FENOLI (Hyundai New Generation i20) went off the road in SS 11 - crew okay.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Unfortunately the young Andolfi tried to fly too close to the sun...
Fabio ANDOLFI/Manuel FENOLI (Hyundai New Generation i20) went off the road in SS 11 - crew okay.

Nasty crash... and the car is burnt out ! :(

ANDOLFI: Photos following Fabio Andolfi’s crash in his Hyundai i20 R5 on Rallye du Valais 2016 yesterday ���� Crew were OK! �� @LNFlive https://t.co/TklObKIVvx

[Jarek Z]

Bad weekend for Hyundai:
Andolfi crashed
Burri DNF
Gassner only 10th overall

ADAC 3-STÄDTE RALLYE - Final results
1. Fabian Kreim/Frank Christian (D) Skoda Fabia R5 1:07.40,3
2. Dominik Dinkel/Christina Kohl (D) Skoda Fabia R5 +52,5
3. Ruben Zeltner/Petra Zeltner (D/A) Porsche 911 GT3 +1.53,5
4. Rainer Noller/Stefan Kopczyk (D) Porsche 911 GT3 +2.09,6
5. Maximilian Koch/Lisa Brunthaler (D) Skoda Fabia S2000 +2.22,0
6. Ron Schumann/Stefan Weigel (D) Mitsubishi Lancer Evo VII +3.32,4
7. Raffael Sulzinger/Claudia Harloff (D) Ford Fiesta R5 +3.42,9
8. Peter Corazza/Jörn Limbach (D) Mitsubishi Lancer Evo IX +3.56,9
9. David Tomek/Marek Zeman (CZ) Skoda Fabia S2000 +4.34,2
10. Hermann Gassner/Karin Thannhäuser (D) Hyundai i20 R5 +4.49,4

[Mirek]

Just watched this video from Valais https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWmQ87gokL4

There seems to be still big difference in torque between Fabia and other R5 in those uphill hairpins (especially lazy DS3 R5).

[Rally Power]

Bad weekend for Hyundai:
Andolfi crashed
Burri DNF
Gassner only 10th overall

Yep, still Andolfi set great times (5 stages wins) with the i20.

Btw, Valais 3rd place went to young swiss driver Toedtli, a usual 208 Cup competitor. On his first outing with an R5 he was faster than Cerny almost till the end. Well done!

Nice TER crews videos:
http://www.terseries.com/media/video/25/riv-2016-highlights-leg-1
http://www.terseries.com/media/video/26/ter-rallye-international-du-valais-2016-day-2

[Andre Oliveira]

Nasty crash... and the car is burnt out ! :(

ANDOLFI: Photos following Fabio Andolfi’s crash in his Hyundai i20 R5 on Rallye du Valais 2016 yesterday ���� Crew were OK! �� @LNFlive https://t.co/TklObKIVvx


Not Hyundai. Joel Rappaz 207 ;)

[CWJ]

Bad weekend for Hyundai:
Andolfi crashed
Burri DNF
Gassner only 10th overall

Gassner start was a first rollout / test only to get the car known. He won already his targets in the championship.

[CWJ]

Guys, I have a charade for you. Fabian Kreim (Skoda Fabia R5) was leading Drei Staedte Rally after 4 stages. Christian Riedemann (Peugeot 208 T16) was second, 9 seconds behind. One of the cars broke down on SS5. Which car was it? :D

Broken shift cable

[Jarek Z]

Nasty crash... and the car is burnt out ! :(

ANDOLFI: Photos following Fabio Andolfi’s crash in his Hyundai i20 R5 on Rallye du Valais 2016 yesterday ���� Crew were OK! �� @LNFlive https://t.co/TklObKIVvx

Your linkt doesn't work for me, but the car doesn't look burnt out:

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14691257_1432974960064104_5414379492922578003_o.jp g

[Andre Oliveira]

Not Hyundai. Joel Rappaz 207 ;)

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/14793867_1360566537286702_219492731_n.jpg?oh=73702 3d39a4d7d2550fb338a1dcfa7ee&oe=580FBFF2

[leighton323]

Hyundai R5 with potential reoccuring suspension component failure


http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home/other-news/10891-hyundai-r5-suspension-failures-raise-concerns

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[Mirek]

Thanks, interesting

[EightGear]

Another suspension part broke after a jump in Abbring's test yesterday.

[RS]

Looks a bit like Hyundai did not test thoroughly enough at the moment.

[TheFlyingTuga]

Looks a bit like Hyundai did not test thoroughly enough at the moment.

Could just be a faulty part from a supplier. I used to work in a autoshop of a famous brand and one motor in particular keeped broking down after 2000-3000 km. They found out that was a part from a supplier and you can still buy that car with that motor and run it your whole life.

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Jari Ketomaa is driving Mirage R5 in Rally Malaysia.

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[RS]

Why did Abbring not restart under Rally2 after his day one off in GB?

[dupanton]

Why did Abbring not restart under Rally2 after his day one off in GB?

He did, but had transmission problem on the road section tot the first stage. It was probably damaged while trying to get out of the ditch.

[RS]

He did, but had transmission problem on the road section tot the first stage. It was probably damaged while trying to get out of the ditch.

Thanks. He has restarted today and very quick on SS17.

[Rally Power]

Jari Ketomaa is driving Mirage R5 in Rally Malaysia.

Great news! Really hoping this Mirage R5 APRC entry will be the first step for FIA to allow private tuners R5’s in every rally series. Ketoma was 2nd, 9m behind Gill's Fabia. http://aprc.tv/newsPage.php?Dominant-performance-results-in-early-APRC-championship-title-947

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14572188_528585857350953_9195919494964693630_n.jpg ?oh=e232dcf0ec5db7633177fa308461b398&oe=58947D02
photo:https://pt-pt.facebook.com/MitsubishiR5Official/

Btw, fantastic footage of the i20 (and others R5) on TER's Valais video: http://www.terseries.com/media/video/28/ter-rallye-international-du-valais-2016-tv-magazine

[dodge33cymru]

Erm, didn't see that coming:

VW Polo R5, coming soon.

https://www.volkswagen-media-services.com/en/detailpage/-/detail/Volkswagen-realigns-motorsport-programme/view/4159083/7a5bbec13158edd433c6630f5ac445da?p_p_auth=ublbR7q7

[liposh]

If true, it means end of Skoda Fabia R5 production and end of Skoda motorsport in rally at the end of 2017 at the latest.

[dodge33cymru]

If true, it means end of Skoda Fabia R5 production and end of Skoda motorsport in rally at the end of 2017 at the latest.
A) That's VW's press release, so definitely true

and

B) No it doesn't (it might, but certainly not definitive)

[liposh]

We all have seen the way VW bosses are thinking during last two days (they are not afraid to stop WRC2017 project at the very end of development). Two R5s in one concern is a way too much. Wish I was wrong.

[Mirek]

It may mean anything, it may also mean that Škoda will take over WRC activities although I am skeptical about that. It may also mean that Škoda will do for example the new R4 or completely different sport or nothing. We have to wait and see.

[electroliquid]

PSA has two R5's, why VAG can't do that?

[PLuto]

PSA has two R5's, why VAG can't do that?

PSA "made" two R5 cars, but for future I am afraid it will not stay same...

[TWRC]

PSA "made" two R5 cars, but for future I am afraid it will not stay same...
But which will be phased out then? There were rumors of a C3 R5, so I would guess the 208 as it will end production sooner than the C3.

[dodge33cymru]

Two R5s in one concern is a way too much. Wish I was wrong.

You might want to let them know they have four competing brands in GT3 then. And stop them introducing the announced Audi customer programme joining Seat and VW in TCR and soon-to-be-announced Audi GT4 which will compete against Porsche.

[PLuto]

But which will be phased out then? There were rumors of a C3 R5, so I would guess the 208 as it will end production sooner than the C3.

It is not only rumour. There will be Citroen C3 R5.

[the sniper]

Two R5s in one concern is a way too much. Wish I was wrong.

Maybe, but as dodge33cymru says, this isn't presently a problem in the case of TCR or GT3 and Audi producing a car for TCR was only announced a month or so ago. Time will tell.

[A FONDO]

PSA made two R5's because sometimes competitors work on sponsorship with their local importer and in some countries it's not the same company that imports both Peugeot and Citroen. It's the same for their vans and other vehicles. So I don't see why Polo R5 would kill Skoda R5. They are even in different regions, yes they are under the same "hat" but still have separate engineering, separate budget, separate marketing programs.

[RS]

If VW decided to run a works programme with the R5, one brand could concentrate on ERC and the other on WRC2.

[Andre Oliveira]

M-Sport organized a R5 event to possible costumers last friday with 20/30 drivers. I saw an italian guy, Ingram, Adielsson, Costa,...

[nafpaktos]

Link?

[Andre Oliveira]

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14720395_1508377939191628_7991306678448378738_n.jp g?oh=5c8d3ea548bffe17c332f2a1eaac81a8&oe=58895292

[MartijnS]

Also Peter Bijvelds and Mats van den Brand tested it.

[br21]

Also I've been there:)
Mostly UK people, some Portugese, Sweedish, Lithuanian, Dutch

[nafpaktos]

MW is the best rally entrepreneur!!!!!

[electroliquid]

Also I've been there:)
Mostly UK people, some Portugese, Sweedish, Lithuanian, Dutch

Maybe remember Lithuanian name?

[Andre Oliveira]

Samsonas is lithuanian?

[electroliquid]

Yes he is

[RICARDO75]

M-Sport organized a R5 event to possible costumers last friday with 20/30 drivers. I saw an italian guy, Ingram, Adielsson, Costa,...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRx5JTzYzso&feature=em-uploademail

[itix]

On a side note, the Hyundai R5 is having a very troubled start to its competitive life. Double retirement in Condroz noted as oil sump for both cars. (as in something punctured said oil sump or what?)

I'm surprised these things hasn't come up in testing given Abbrings violent driving style. He also tested the troublesome 208 so one would expect him to have learnt a few lessons there.

[Mirek]

They were not the only ones this last weekend. Claudio De Cecco also retired with I20 from Friulmotor in Rally Poreč. I don't know why though.

[electroliquid]

I'm surprised these things hasn't come up in testing given Abbrings violent driving style. He also tested the troublesome 208 so one would expect him to have learnt a few lessons there.

Maybe Abbring lacks of some kind of "engineering thinking"...

[Jasper]

They were not the only ones this last weekend. Claudio De Cecco also retired with I20 from Friulmotor in Rally Poreč. I don't know why though.



Claudio De Cecco has withdraw from the rally while he was holding second position. He didn't feel well behind the steering wheel of Hyundai i20 R5 at the slipery roads soaked with rain.

[Mirek]

Interesting reason to retire but it's true that Croation roads when wet are crazy slippery.

[TWRC]

On a side note, the Hyundai R5 is having a very troubled start to its competitive life. Double retirement in Condroz noted as oil sump for both cars. (as in something punctured said oil sump or what?)

I'm surprised these things hasn't come up in testing given Abbrings violent driving style. He also tested the troublesome 208 so one would expect him to have learnt a few lessons there.
I think these are rather engineering or supplier faults, just like the suspension problems they have/had.

On the other hand, the PSA cars have received some updates. I don't know much about it (maybe br21 does), only that there's a new engine mapping which enables the cars to run on max power or very close to it.

[aykutbilir]

Claudio De Cecco has withdraw from the rally while he was holding second position. He didn't feel well behind the steering wheel of Hyundai i20 R5 at the slipery roads soaked with rain.

As i talk with Claduio directly because of the car is from HMI he dont want to damage the car road conditions is very poor.

Fruil Motor is waiting for Hyundai R5 order to delibered this rally is only to understand the car.


Tapatalk kullanarak iPhone araclyla gönderildi

[br21]

PSA cars have new engine mappings for Evo kits, and there you can choose boost levels by simple rotary switch. Base spec had different engine maps with different boost levels.

Hyundai problems are little more complicated - some are suppliers fault, some bad luck and some I think simply because of quite short testing phase.

But if someone thinks those are because of test driver then it means he knows absolutely nothing about developement of the car.

[dimviii]

br21 why Breens ds3 had blanked part of front bumber comparing to Lefebvres ds3? different mapping? or wrong mapping?

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/rallye_du_condroz_huy_2016/jbo_img_0504.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/rallye_du_condroz_huy_2016/jbo_img_0229.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/rallye_du_condroz_huy_2016/jbo_007img_0953.jpg

[br21]

br21 why Breens ds3 had blanked part of front bumber comparing to Lefebvres ds3? different mapping? or wrong mapping?


it's to cover the radiator when it's running too low coolant temperature.
some teams don't care about it and they don't use it...
cars of Breen and Lefebvre were from different teams.

[dimviii]

it's to cover the radiator when it's running too low coolant temperature.
some teams don't care about it and they don't use it...
cars of Breen and Lefebvre were from different teams.

isn't it wrong to run low collant temp?

[Ucci]

Interesting reason to retire but it's true that Croation roads when wet are crazy slippery.
Indeed, very very slippery. I was a co-pilot in RWD car, it was very sideways all the time...brings a lot of smile on your face.
Also Aco Lino, who drove Friulimotor P208 R5 as a "0" car, retaired because of the same reason as De Cecco....had enough of rain.

[itix]

PSA cars have new engine mappings for Evo kits, and there you can choose boost levels by simple rotary switch. Base spec had different engine maps with different boost levels.

Hyundai problems are little more complicated - some are suppliers fault, some bad luck and some I think simply because of quite short testing phase.

But if someone thinks those are because of test driver then it means he knows absolutely nothing about developement of the car.

Well I have never developed a rally car in my life, so absolutely, I have no idea what the process is. I just thought it was an interesting correlation that two initially troublesome cars both were developed by the same driver. That doesn't mean I believe it is his fault, just that it is an interesting remark.

Also the oil sump should be protected by the skidplate so if something would pierce it, it seems weird given that Abbring cuts pretty agressively... an issue in that area should have come up in testing, one would think.

[NoFear85]

De Cecco and Aco, no money no funny, they must pay too much if they destroy their cars (rented cars) HMI Hyundai i20 and Friulmotor 208

[wwbroe]

What are you guys talking about? De Cecco was driving Pug 208 in Condroz and the reason he retired was an off, had nothing to do with rain or slippery roads. Dilley and Duval were driving Hyundai's and they both retired with sump gard pierced.

[PLuto]

What are you guys talking about? De Cecco was driving Pug 208 in Condroz and the reason he retired was an off, had nothing to do with rain or slippery roads. Dilley and Duval were driving Hyundai's and they both retired with sump gard pierced.

Cedric De Cecco vs. Claudio De Cecco...

[Jarek Z]

What are you guys talking about? De Cecco was driving Pug 208 in Condroz and the reason he retired was an off, had nothing to do with rain or slippery roads.

That's not the right De Cecco. I think they aren't even related :)

http://www.autoklub.pl/news/foto/201611/news20161104_71868h.jpg

[wwbroe]

Cedric De Cecco vs. Claudio De Cecco...

Ok,thanks Pluto & Jarek,i didn't know that,sorry for my reaction.:D

[Jarek Z]

Guys, do you like cooking? Because Kajto is going to be the star of the TV series "Hell's Kitchen" tonight :D

https://scontent-waw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14947537_1373392036027394_6861844508432994179_n.jp g?oh=a8f48a25af024bc9230d3fa358f222ba&oe=58C537FE

[dimviii]

eWRC-results ‏@eWRCresults · 28m28 minutes ago

@HMSGOfficial i20 R5 to Promo Racing Team (Italia)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cw6DuXHXgAAM-rB.jpg

[Rally Power]

Seat testing their own R5! ;)
Fb.me/1uW4axb8f

[dimviii]

Seat testing their own R5! ;)
Fb.me/1uW4axb8f

cant open the link.

[Rally Power]

cant open the link.

Just a funny project from a spanish amateur crew.

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14980675_10153906826015404_7076744707598387297_n.j pg?oh=4b43e84a62822326df2cf9f08527bef1&oe=5888AE13
https://www.facebook.com/LaTulaSport.es/?ref=page_internal

[Neige]

As far, as I know, lithuanian rally committe talking with swedish Mitsubishi Mirage R5 team. 2017 lithuanian rally regulations project allows car like this compete in Lithuania Rally Championship. So maybe maybe we will see Mirage R5 it in Lithuania.
By the way, this year Lithuania rally championship was won by latvian J.Vorobjovs with his privately built Mitsubishi Mirage with Evo's parts.

And question to guys from Poland. Could you enlight me about Ford Fiesta Proto? I know that's Fiesta with Evo's parts and I saw it only in Poland. How this project happend?

[br21]

Where do you found LTU rally regs project for 2017?
Mirage of Vorobjovs is exactly similar like Proto you asked in second paragraph. It's coming from Poland. They can build different bodies - Mirage, Fiesta, Polo, 208, Hyundai, Citroen, etc.

[OldF]

At least one Hyundai R5 in FRC next year. They have an option for a second car. Driver still a secret.

http://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/1/256148/20068/Rallybaron%20Hyundai%20i20%20R5%20-autolla%20rallin%20SM-sarjaan%202017%21.html

Google translated
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallism.fi%2Fcontent%2Ffi%2F1%2 F256148%2F20068%2FRallybaron%2520Hyundai%2520i20%2 520R5%2520-autolla%2520rallin%2520SM-sarjaan%25202017%2521.html&edit-text=

[Rally Power]

I know that's Fiesta with Evo's parts and I saw it only in Poland. How this project happend?

http://www.sport.dytko.pl/
https://pt-pt.facebook.com/sportdytko/

[Mirek]

Václav Pech in Czech championship 2017 with Ford Fiesta R5.

[TWRC]

At least one Hyundai R5 in FRC next year. They have an option for a second car. Driver still a secret.

http://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/1/256148/20068/Rallybaron%20Hyundai%20i20%20R5%20-autolla%20rallin%20SM-sarjaan%202017%21.html

Google translated
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallism.fi%2Fcontent%2Ffi%2F1%2 F256148%2F20068%2FRallybaron%2520Hyundai%2520i20%2 520R5%2520-autolla%2520rallin%2520SM-sarjaan%25202017%2521.html&edit-text=
Could it be Salo? I saw they put the 208 up for sale.

[Andre Oliveira]

Václav Pech in Czech championship 2017 with Ford Fiesta R5.

Finally some competition to Skoda ;) and great have Pech back to rally cars ;)

[Mirek]

Now let's see if Škoda is there in 2017 too...

[Neige]

Thank You, guys! Quite usefull information.

Here is LTU regulation project
http://www.lasf.lt/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/LR_2017-Reglamentas_Projektas.pdf

But it's only in Lithuanian. Google translates quite badly from lithuanian, so if You need some translation - feel free to ask. Rally committe also now have long term strategy. It includes priority for international class.

[Andre Oliveira]

Maybe official no, but Pech will not be official ;) i mean Fabia R5 car private crews

[br21]

Teemu Asunmaa?


At least one Hyundai R5 in FRC next year. They have an option for a second car. Driver still a secret.

http://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/1/256148/20068/Rallybaron%20Hyundai%20i20%20R5%20-autolla%20rallin%20SM-sarjaan%202017%21.html

Google translated
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallism.fi%2Fcontent%2Ffi%2F1%2 F256148%2F20068%2FRallybaron%2520Hyundai%2520i20%2 520R5%2520-autolla%2520rallin%2520SM-sarjaan%25202017%2521.html&edit-text=

[RS]

Maybe official no, but Pech will not be official ;) i mean Fabia R5 car private crews

It would need Kopecky to (possibly) beat Pech in a Fiesta R5.

[Jarek Z]

Good news from Poland. Skoda Fabia R5 for Marcin Gagacki from Oponeo Motorsport in 2017 Polish rally championship:
http://rajdy.autoklub.pl/gallery/show/id/1479295144

[OldF]

Could it be Salo? I saw they put the 208 up for sale.


Teemu Asunmaa?

The car will be run by Rallybaron Oy (Ltd) rally team. They were second in the team championship this year. Their drivers in FRC this year were Jesse Turunen and Tommi Järvinen. Tommi Järvinen will drive Subaru next year and the news on Rallybaron’s web site says that Jesse Turunen might drive the Hyundai R5 (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallybaron.fi%2Findex.php%3Fmac t%3DNews%2Ccntnt01%2Cdetail%2C0%26cntnt01articleid %3D43%26cntnt01origid%3D57%26cntnt01returnid%3D57&edit-text=).

But in the publishing news they say they will cooperate with young drivers in the future so I don’t think Salo is among them. Asunmaa is still young (26). They don’t know yet the first rally for the R5 due to delivery technical reasons.

Rallybaron
http://www.rallybaron.fi/index.php

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallybaron.fi%2Findex.php&edit-text=

Jesse Turunen
http://www.jesseturunen.com/wordpress/

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jesseturunen.com%2Fwordpress%2F&edit-text=

Tommi Järvinen testing the Subaru
https://www.facebook.com/Rallybaron-188151941394266/

[pantealex]

Teemu Asunmaa?

Asunmaa will drive Fabia R5 (from Hannu´s rallyteam, same car that Lehessaari drove this year and Lehessaari will get new R5)

[giù tutto!]

The car will be run by Rallybaron Oy (Ltd) rally team. They were second in the team championship this year. Their drivers in FRC this year were Jesse Turunen and Tommi Järvinen. Tommi Järvinen will drive Subaru next year and the news on Rallybaron’s web site says that Jesse Turunen might drive the Hyundai R5 (https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallybaron.fi%2Findex.php%3Fmac t%3DNews%2Ccntnt01%2Cdetail%2C0%26cntnt01articleid %3D43%26cntnt01origid%3D57%26cntnt01returnid%3D57&edit-text=).

But in the publishing news they say they will cooperate with young drivers in the future so I don’t think Salo is among them. Asunmaa is still young (26). They don’t know yet the first rally for the R5 due to delivery technical reasons.

Rallybaron
http://www.rallybaron.fi/index.php

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallybaron.fi%2Findex.php&edit-text=

Jesse Turunen
http://www.jesseturunen.com/wordpress/

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=fi&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jesseturunen.com%2Fwordpress%2F&edit-text=

Tommi Järvinen testing the Subaru
https://www.facebook.com/Rallybaron-188151941394266/


Asunmaa is 29 years old.

[Hartusvuori]

There will be at least two more R5s competing in Finnish championship not mentioned yet in this thread. Those news will be revealed soon.

[OldF]

Asunmaa is 29 years old.

Then his age is wrong on his web site. Forever 26 years old.:)

http://www.teemuasunmaa.com/racingteam.php

[pantealex]

Then his age is wrong on his web site. Forever 26 years old.:)

http://www.teemuasunmaa.com/racingteam.php

1st rally 2005, so 26y is impossible. 29y could be true.

[Jeppe]

I believe this is the newest Fabia R5 in the Finland. Driver(s) for the 2017 FRC are Marko Mänty / Joni Mäkelä

[pantealex]

I believe this is the newest Fabia R5 in the Finland. Driver(s) for the 2017 FRC are Marko Mänty / Joni Mäkelä

It´s "Printsport" #105 chassis. They got #97 before Rally Catalonia, and this is brand new. 3rd Printsport Fabia is OC.Veiby car.

[RICARDO75]

Christoph Brugger will drive German championship in Fiesta R5 next year.
He will also start at ArcticRally

[Fast Eddie WRC]

1st major win for the Hyundai i20 R5 on Rallye du Var...

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/november-2016/abbring-var/page/4115--12-12-.html

[dimviii]

Pontus Tidemand ‏@PontusTidemand · 15m15 minutes ago

The @skodafabiar5 and the French alps are a perfect combination! ��❄ #testing #SKODA #FabiaR5



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cym3jjrXcAAhkY4.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cym3klnXgAAcwh6.jpg

[RICARDO75]

Tidemand test
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKt4-BIKPn8&feature=em-uploademail

[RS]

Nice sliding.

That means Pontus is in Skoda for 2017 then, and Skoda are in Monte Carlo.

[RICARDO75]

... and Kopecký
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OXmTXTftsM&feature=em-uploademail

[Andre Oliveira]

Photos:

Kopecky: https://www.facebook.com/julienpixelrallye/photos/?tab=album&album_id=716083148554830

Tidemand: https://www.facebook.com/julienpixelrallye/photos/?tab=album&album_id=716110048552140

[RS]

... and Kopecký
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OXmTXTftsM&feature=em-uploademail

Thanks. Those two videos probably showed us more footage of the works Fabia than the entire 2017 WRC2 season will..

[dimviii]

Photos:

Kopecky: https://www.facebook.com/julienpixelrallye/photos/?tab=album&album_id=716083148554830

Tidemand: https://www.facebook.com/julienpixelrallye/photos/?tab=album&album_id=716110048552140

what kind of lamppod is this?

https://scontent.fath3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15232204_716747445155067_8480706971668132070_n.jpg ?oh=9cca125eb13b4102de6101ec00920e95&oe=58CA8F86

[RICARDO75]

what kind of lamppod is this?

https://scontent.fath3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15232204_716747445155067_8480706971668132070_n.jpg ?oh=9cca125eb13b4102de6101ec00920e95&oe=58CA8F86

Led's lamps

[dimviii]

I know its led lamps,what make? haven't see them again.

[Mirek]

That's some superfugly stuff if You ask me :D

[RICARDO75]

another video from Tidemand. On this one is mentioned to be a Skoda Fabia R5 Evo?!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MQIjY3UsNU&feature=em-uploademail

[Mirek]

Fabia was homologated at 1st April 2015. Afaik the first major change is possible at 1st April 2018.

Anyway very speacular driving from Pontus on the snow tyres.

[RS]

I thought it was two years for changes on R5 cars?

PSA cars debuted in 2014 and had their evo in 2016.

But even then the Fabia wouldn't be due in time for Monte.

[Mirek]

True, You are right then.

[liposh]

IMHO the cycle is really 3 years. I don´t know why Peugeot did the Evo after 2 years. Maybe some exception.

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

IMHO the cycle is really 3 years. I don´t know why Peugeot did the Evo after 2 years. Maybe some exception.
Because it sucks..

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[RICARDO75]

Tidemand by checkpoint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu4EsgL-oYg&feature=em-uploademail

[RS]

I can't see much reason for Skoda to play their jokers yet. The car is still around the best and I suppose they will do some joint work with VW as they prepare the Polo R5.

The road car started manufacturer in August 2014 so the facelift should be due around the beginning of 2018, maybe they'll tie the R5 EVO in with that.

[wwbroe]

Is it just me or does the Skoda Fabia R5 sounds different now, more agressive sound?

[Rally Power]

IMHO the cycle is really 3 years. I don´t know why Peugeot did the Evo after 2 years. Maybe some exception.

Probably it’s a 2 year minimum. I believe the Fiesta also didn’t complete 3 full years (07/13-01/16?).

[RICARDO75]

Nikolay Gryazin - Sardinia tarmac test's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBL1iykQKgA&feature=em-uploademail

[Mirek]

The helmet camera is great!

[Ucci]

Is it just me or does the Skoda Fabia R5 sounds different now, more agressive sound?


No, at least for three Fabia's which I heard yesterday in Monza show (Rosseti, Rovanpera, Colombini) I can only say they are by far the quietest compare to Fiesta's evo, not to mention PSA cars. And I20 R5 is also very loud.
For me biggest positive surprise are Fiesta's evo, with new mapping they are (almost) agressive as WRC Fiesta's.

[Mirek]

Don't know how in other countries but here teams keep buying Fiestas like crazy as those are really cheap now. At least five new Fiestas to CZ in last few weeks.

[br21]

Nice sound of r5 Fiestas is mostly thanx to option of exhaust without silencer. It makes car sound little bit similar to wrc.
A lot of people buy Fiestas because of bad reputation of PSA cars and problems with parts. Also reputation of Skoda Motorsport support and parts is currently not that good. And people are afraid of future - mainly VW decisions. So Fiesta is becoming popular again. As support is way better than others, parts no problem, car is also fast with new engine and really reliable and relatively easy to run.

[Mirek]

Yes, You are right. M-Sport currently offers the best package and as a bonus it's also cheaper.

[nafpaktos]

Nice sound of r5 Fiestas is mostly thanx to option of exhaust without silencer.
Why there are these two options?because of legislation to some countries?Why on earth someone use the silenser?

[pantealex]

Yes, You are right. M-Sport currently offers the best package and as a bonus it's also cheaper.

and in Finland 0 pieces, racers here buy only other brands...

[Andre Oliveira]

Tommi have one

[br21]

Why there are these two options?because of legislation to some countries?Why on earth someone use the silenser?

First cars were sold with exhaust with silencer. Then people started to remove them to make cars louder and MSport also started to offer such option. Quiet exhaust can be an advantage in some situations.

[dimviii]

Quiet exhaust can be an advantage in some situations.

such as?

[Mirek]

Scrutineering? :D

[Jarek Z]

and in Finland 0 pieces, racers here buy only other brands...

Really? I'm nearly sure there are two Japanese drivers driving Ford Fiesta R5 in the Finnish championship?

[Franky]

Really? I'm nearly sure there are two Japanese drivers driving Ford Fiesta R5 in the Finnish championship?

Provided by MM Motorsport.

[Andre Oliveira]

Printsport have one and AMAX company other early.

Now, as far as i know, only Tommi Mäkkinen have one, possibily to one of japanese drivers or Suninen do WRC2 2017.

[pantealex]

Yes, Printsport is servicing 1 or 2 cars, but nobody has driven with them.

Japanese drive with Estonian cars, owned and serviced by Markko Märtin. (crew just wear TMR-overalls)

Berezkin-Novikov Fiesta R5 has been in Tommi´s garage but it´s Russian car. New one is in parts, remember that Toyota is building their own R5...

[Andre Oliveira]

Don't know how in other countries but here teams keep buying Fiestas like crazy as those are really cheap now. At least five new Fiestas to CZ in last few weeks.

Pech 1
Orsak 2 or 3
Bisaha 1
Odlozilik 1
Gemini 1

More?

[Andre Oliveira]

Mirek, Jiri Jirovec is Vaclav Pech manager?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cy8TvtdXcAQABQK.jpg

[Mirek]

Jiří Jírovec is the owner of Invelt company (BMW dealership) and the boss of the team, yes.

[Andre Oliveira]

Good :)

btw, that car is not Pech one ;)

More than 200 R5 sold. Congrats have to be given to Mr Wilson team. 2018 Fiesta R5 will be different too

[Jarek Z]

Does this movie belong to this thread? The 40th birthday of a Ford factory in Romania. Simone Tempestini and Ford Fiesta R5 in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8tGsQzCuto