Czech rally news

[RS]

Valousek doing a good job, up to third now.

[Mirek]

Had a good day today in the beautiful weather (it was snowing for three days but the weather got really warm and sunny today). Saw shakedown, SS1 and SS3. I decided not to spectate the night section as it started too late. Also met some people in service, among them our forum member Jeppe currently fighting on 8th place in historics :)

What I can say...

Kopecký - league on his own, very precise, spectacular but not brutal driving (now it looks like he made some mistake on SS5, but nothing major), his main advantage today was that he keeps extra speed in very fast or even dangerous places where others are more cautious, I don't think he risks more, he is rather more precise
Tidemand - very aggresive but cautious in really difficult fast places
Pech - very nice driving, very accurate as always but the car is all about power, in corners it's a lot slower than R5 cars, also often touching ground by the sumpguard
Dohnal - quite nice driving but he has reasonable advantage in his car, he nearly went off in front of me in SS3
Valoušek - looking comfortable, fluent and rather safe, no crazy things from him today
Černý - very spectacular and aggresive, hard to say if it's possible to do much more with S2000, he looked crazy fast on SS1 but he spent loads of time in RPM limiter there
Odložilík - better than expected, really nice driving
Jakeš - I had a feeling that the car lacks a lot of power, maybe only the feeling but it looked really lazy
Kopáček - a league of his own in gr.N, a bit crazy on SS1 with a very spectacular safe of a near crash
Kristiansen (for our Norvegian members :) ) - I think he shall do some proper asphalt training, he is for sure brave, takes some risk, drives very spectacular but he drives too brutal and agressive, for example he steers with very sharp rapid movements, he would be for sure faster if he drives in more fluent and clean way

[Mirek]

I forgot one thing. Érik Comas with the Stratos is a very nice surprise in historics. He's driving very well and finally I saw someone who drives Stratos really fast! :)

EDIT: Once I wrote it he retired with broken gearbox while having a one minute lead :(

[Mirek]

4 s/km lost for Pech on the city stage (12 seconds on 3 km). Also today's stages have many chicanes. I think the car is way too clumsy for this type of tight obstacles. By the way he is on Hakooks.

First short onboard shot of Pech with a mistake in junction: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/8702.html

Kopáček unfortunately all the time today with some technical problems and moreover a costly off on SS8...

[Mirek]

Final results of Histric Rally Vltava. Sadly we lost both fastest drivers today, Comas (Lancia Stratos) retired with broken driveshaft with a big lead and Myrsell (911 RS) retired with broken engine. On the other hand it helped our friend Jeppe to finish 5th overall (4th in ERC) :)

1. Jensen (911 RS) 1:30:22,2
2. Ballek (Impreza 555) +1:13,3 (only Czech championship)
3. Silvasti (911 RS) +1:29,9
4. Jansson (Escort RS2000) +4:08,6
5. Kirvesmäki/Jämsen (Corolla GT) +4:46,2
6. Jírovec (BMW E30 M3) +5:27,8 (only Czech championship)
7. Káňa (Sierra RS Cosworth) +5:30,4 (only Czech championship)
8. Storäng (Escort RS2000) +5:57,1
9. Wirtman (Escort RS1600) +6:09,3
10. Mekler (Alfa 1750 GTAm) +7:24,2

[Mirek]

Final results of Rally Šumava. Out of top 20 starters only 1 retired (!!!) - Štajf with broken steering rod (probably he hit something). Today the most important thing was that Černý managed to climb from 6th to 4th place. Pech lost quite a lot of time in the first runs and it looked like he may loose even 6th place but he managed to fight back in the second loop and climbed to 5th. After all the problems of Kopáček Szeja brothers from Poland won the gr.N classification.

1. Kopecký (Fabia R5) 1:19:05,9
2. Tidemand (Fabia R5) +26,1
3. Valoušek (Fabia R5) +1:05,8
4. Černý (Fabia S2000) +1:36,4
5. Pech (997 GT3) +1:47,3
6. Dohnal (Focus WRC 08) +2:02,8
7. Odložilík (Fiesta R5) +2:08,8
8. Sýkora (Fabia R5) +2:53,0
9. Jakeš (DS3 R5) +3:01,6
10. Trněný (Fabia WRC) +3:30,4

12. Kristiansen (Fabia S2000) +4:15,2

14. Kahle (Fabia R5) +5:03,4
15. Szeja (Impreza STI gr.N) +5:43,7

[Mirek]

Overshoot of Kopecký from SS5: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/8713.html

Kopáček off on SS8 (those damned chicanes again): http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/8711.html

Retirement of Štajf - the steering rod got broken without hitting anything in the video but it may have been damaged from something before
http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/8715.html

[Mirek]

Now I see that mediasport puts the videos also on youtube.

Accident of Růžička on shakedown: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9gzW1c3CI0

Spin of Jelínek on SS1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H866Vf1wQRg

[Jarek Z]

14. Kahle (Fabia R5) +5:03,4

What's wrong with Kahle?! It this his current speed?

Congratulations to Kopecky and Szeja!!!

[Mirek]

Kahle drove a new R5 car which his co-driver bought (I think). It was clear he was learning the car driving very cautious. He shall drive next events of Czech championship too. Let's see how he can progress.

For me the real alarming "What's wrong?" question goes to Jakeš. Aside of the car which didn't seem to run very well I didn't see any sign of speed with him. It looked like he was just cruising. I just don't know...

Szeja has made an incredible progress for the time being here in CZ. He still drives quite dangerous way in my opinion but he got really fast (I saw one his strange big moment at approximately 160 km/h).

By the way Kopáček drove all four stages of the first loop with broken driveshaft and as he tried to keep Szeja behind him he made that off.

[Ucci]

Kopecky-no surprise for winning this rally, actually anything else as victory would be deep disappointing for him...
About Pech-over the season he will improve more.
Kahle-biggest disappointment of the race.

[Mirek]

Spectacular video of the rally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QndS8wWhYs

[Jarek Z]

Very good video! Thanks for sharing!

[Ucci]

Spectacular video of the rally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QndS8wWhYs

Spectacular, indeed!

[Mirek]

And video from JNK. Super spectacular and I'm pretty sure none other can beat it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI3fXz45-QA

[PLuto]

Kopecky-no surprise for winning this rally, actually anything else as victory would be deep disappointing for him...
About Pech-over the season he will improve more.
Kahle-biggest disappointment of the race.

Only for notification - Kahle was sick last two days before the rally. Also after shakedown he wasnt so well, so he was also going to medical check. But he wanted to start.

[Mirek]

First full stage onboards: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy.html

One for Ucci with Pech over a normal Czech stage: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/8728.html

I have to say that for me the onboards with Mini were way more entertaining for me and he also drove a lot more sideways with it than with the Porsche. But ok, it's the beginning.

[fansosek]

video: Rally Šumava + Vltava https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1ZosI2ExwQ

[Ucci]

First full stage onboards: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy.html

One for Ucci with Pech over a normal Czech stage: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/8728.html

I have to say that for me the onboards with Mini were way more entertaining for me and he also drove a lot more sideways with it than with the Porsche. But ok, it's the beginning.

Thanks Mirek for sharing this Pech's onboard, here is my observation :
- the stage is almost ''tailored'' for P911 GT3, except extreme bumpy surface (as 99% of Czech stages are). We must be aware, that P911 has a very short suspension travel and therefore the main issue for Pech & team is going to be adaptation of circuit suspension to those extreme requirements. The suspension travel is probably biggest disatvantage compare to S2000 / R5 cars and even to gr.N evos & subys...Not to mention ''stupid'' speed barriers, which are preventing Pech to exploit full speed advantage on long straights. But this is also a security matter, so let it be....
- at the moment are the steering inputs by Pech very ''soft'' - if you watch onboards from Zeltner, you notice immediately, that his inputs were much more agressive. This is just a proof that Pech doesn't trust at the moment 100% to the car.....
- looking back the huge progress which Invelt team made with Mini RRC, I do not doubt that they will perform in the similar manner with P911. That way I'm looking positive in the future for Pech & team.

[Mirek]

I don't agree about the steering. Ideally the steering on asphalt shall be done in a soft gentle way with minimum corrections. Look at Meeke or Loeb. Those two steer very gently. Maybe Lundefaret can tell us more but I do believe that sharp steering is mostly a habbit as it helps feeling the car more. Sometimes it can be a result of lesser confidence. There are still enough examples of drivers who are very fast even with very sharp steering and therefore it's hardly a rule that You must steer softly to be fast.

Still I believe that soft and gentle approach is faster if You are confident to drive that way. See this onboard of Meeke, that looks even like he's brigning no effort into the driving: http://www.mediasport.cz/jezdci---rally/meeke-kris/928.html

But I do agree that Pech will get faster with the car. On thew other hand rallies a lot more difficult for the car are about to come (Hustopeče, Barum).

[Ucci]

Look at Meeke or Loeb.
Still I believe that soft and gentle approach is faster if You are confident to drive that way. See this onboard of Meeke....

Well, I respect your opinion, therefore I'm going to write just this answer, as this topic is not about P911....
Do NOT compare driving style which requires modern WRC car with P911, whos basic weight layout is totaly different. Just one thing-911 has a very light front end-no engine & diff in the nose, therefore steering inputs should be more agressive. And you can not compare driving style of 911 to any mid-engine sports car.....911 is a bitch.....belive me.

[Mirek]

You don't seem to understand me. If You make a robot driving - I mean ideal driver without any emotions, hesitations or feelings it will steer very gently and soft no matter if the car is F1 or Trabant. If Pech can manage to drive Porsche in a smooth way it's good for him. Dumas also drive Porsche smoother than Delecour.

A now something completely different, another nice video from the rally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTsB4uWz-p4

[Mirek]

Another onboard of Pech: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/8803.html

[Mirek]

Pontus Tidemand will continue in Czech championship on Rallye Český Krumlov!

[RS]

Pontus Tidemand will continue in Czech championship on Rallye Český Krumlov!

That's great news all round. Great for the Czech fans, great for Tidemand to get more asphalt practice and great to keep Kopecky on his toes.

[Nowi]

My photogallery from Rallye Šumava & Historic Vltava rallye 2016 at http://www.rallylife.cz/rallye-sumava-historic-vltava-2016-nowi

[dimviii]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13220839_2014461115446787_5317108229625221991_n.jp g?oh=d33bf76b1c6177ec16e70b1903d9410d&oe=57D909CF

[Mirek]

Entry list for Rally Vyškov (Rallysprint Series): http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=18256

[Mirek]

Results of Rally Vyškov: http://rally-base.com/2016/rally-vyskov-2016/?ssId=3453

Kostka lost already nearly half a minute on SS1. I don't know why.

[Ucci]

Kostka lost already nearly half a minute on SS1. I don't know why.

I hope he is going to make up this time loss!

[dimviii]

Kostka 4th fastest at 3rd stage.Whats wrong?

[Mirek]

I don't know, maybe he's just rusty after the winter...

Vyškov is different rally than most of ours. A lot of square junctions, some gravel etc. It was raining over night and some parts are very muddy.

Great times by Ševčík who is moreover on Hankook tyres.

[Mirek]

Final results:

1. Odložilík (Fiesta R5) 42:26,4
2. Vlček (Fabia WRC) +23,3
3. Kostka (Fabia R5) +38,2
4. Trněný (Fabia WRC) +1:04,1
5. Kukučka (Fabia R5) +1:32,9
6. Ševčík (Evo IX gr.N) +1:39,3
7. Kurka (Mini WRC) +1:51,0
8. Bisaha (Fiesta R5) +1:55,3
9. Adolf (Fabia S2000) +1:59,3
10. Březík (Evo IX gr.N) +2:02,1

Nobody from top drivers retired! Kostka had some problems with low turbo pressure.

I expect some very spectacular videos from the mud on first stage :)

[Mirek]

Very very spectacular video, enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG3W3yxEin0

[Ucci]

Very very spectacular video, enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG3W3yxEin0

Very very slippery !!!

[Mirek]

First onboards appeared on mediasport website: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy.html

I like this one of Vlček: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/8873.html

Especially later part of the stage is full of spectacular places with gravel roads, no anti-cutting obstacles etc.

Also few words about the Opel Adam Cup. So far we have seen a great battle between Jerzy Tomaszczyk (Polish) and Matěj Kamenec (Czech). These two play a different league than the others. Tomaszczyk clearly won Valašská Rally but Kamenec managed to strike back in Vyškov taking the victory by 2 seconds.

Here an onboard of Kamenec from Vyškov. The stage contains some extremely fast sections, escpecially towards the end it's a bit crazy fast: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/8881.html

Tomaszczyk
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/rally_vyskov_2016/gry_12.jpg

[Mirek]

Former ERC Historic champion Miroslav Janota entered Rallye Český Krumlov with Porsche 997 GT3 :)

[Mirek]

Entry list for Rallye Český Krumlov: http://www.rallyekrumlov.cz/media/attachments/rck2016fiaertmcrprihlaseni.pdf

[Ucci]

Entry list for Rallye Český Krumlov: http://www.rallyekrumlov.cz/media/attachments/rck2016fiaertmcrprihlaseni.pdf

Thx Mirek, very promising list. Are you going to see it in live?

[Mirek]

No, I have some family duties during the weekend but I want to go to Rally Hustopeče which is the next event.

[Mirek]

Very nice onboard of Jindřich Štolfa with Škoda 130RS from Vyškov. This is how You fight with top Adam Cup drivers :) Also interesting to see the top speed sections with such car (180 km/h). Best part starts at 4:36:
http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/8929.html

[dimviii]

nice livery

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13312890_10208161597471099_223770536577751889_n.jp g?oh=10dfada9ac7f98faa5be4dba88e4a761&oe=57D3D841

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13256414_10208161597031088_8149026666587175651_n.j pg?oh=e625a40cb64c4b7aa4231fc8cab52499&oe=57D2C7BB

[Mirek]

Live results from Rallye Český Krumlov today since 16:00: http://rally-base.com/2016/44-rallye-cesky-krumlov-2016/

Historics since 17:25: http://rally-base.com/2016/44-rallye-cesky-krumlov-2016-historic/

[RS]

Kopecký super quick so far.

[Jarek Z]

Kopecký super quick so far.

Yes, but good to see Pech and his Porsche in the second position after SS4, faster than many R5 and WRC cars.

[EightGear]

Yes, but good to see Pech and his Porsche in the second position after SS4, faster than many R5 and WRC cars.
I'm getting my popcorn ready now for the inevitable Mirek vs. Ucci discussion.

[kubiczech]

comments after SS4:
almost every R5 S2000 WRC driver is complaining that the conditions are HELL ... wet, rainstorm, hailstorm, mud, narrow, full of corners, bad tire choice....
Pech *with BIG smile*:"Conditions ideal for Porsche, dry tarmac, straight almost all the time, not slippery at all, we are enjoying the drive!"

It does not make sense (again) what he is capable to get from any car ... and still have fun
...really looking forward the onboards

[RS]

Guessing the roads are smoother around Cesky Krumlov and better for the Porsche?

[Jarek Z]

I'm getting my popcorn ready now for the inevitable Mirek vs. Ucci discussion.

LOL :) I'll get some Czech beer from the fridge and I'm ready for the show :)

[kubiczech]

Guessing the roads are smoother around Cesky Krumlov and better for the Porsche?

no way ... he was being sarcastic ... it is the same type of stages as "Šumava" ... not as bad as Barum, but very technical, narrow still fast

...and conditions in southern Bohemia today: http://zpravy.idnes.cz/foto.aspx?r=domaci&c=A160527_110659_domaci_fer

[stefanvv]

Yeah, what's that fuss around Porsche and rally again?

[Mirek]

Guessing the roads are smoother around Cesky Krumlov and better for the Porsche?

Actually they are not. Barum is rougher but today's stages of Krumlov are ones of the very hardest in Czech championship, also the conditions with several storms were very difficult. The only thing I can say is hats off to Pech. Incredible driving and incredible times. Waiting for onboards!

Also watch times of Ján Kundlák, this young guy with R2 is faster than JWRC driver Koči in R3. Many years a go when I used to be car admin for Richard Burns Rally Czech I used to meet a kid called Ján Kundlák on those virtual stages and yes, it's him now...

Superb driving today also by Kopáček.

And by the way Lappi was faster than Kopecký in his first and only start in Krumlov before an engine problems stopped him. Krumlov hasn't been the strongest event for Kopecký at all. Quite interesting how easily he kept Tidemand way behind.

[Mirek]

Watch this to understand what were they compete on today! By the way two biiig moments in the one minute-long video and still Petter managed to crash a while later...

http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/8954.html

And a blind rally with Bisaha (totally misted screen)
http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/8950.html

And this is how tomorrow's stage Malonty looked today during the hailstorm...
https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/13254149_1364962156850889_7542171934740350890_n.jp g?oh=7c8f0773850e27078ec96eecbe569f0c&oe=57D8A07E&__gda__=1473343022_e3592a2f8fcc3cc9d2c01fe222d4ad3 e

[WUff1]

I already feared something like this when looking on the weather radar (but looking for storms in Austria, then saw these two storms around Cesky Krumlov).

[RS]

What's going on? It's nearly June!

[RS]

And by the way Lappi was faster than Kopecký in his first and only start in Krumlov before an engine problems stopped him. Krumlov hasn't been the strongest event for Kopecký at all. Quite interesting how easily he kept Tidemand way behind.

I have the impression maybe turbo cars suit Kopecky more than NA S2000. He has been much quicker on gravel with R5 than I expected, even though Portugal turned out to be a disaster.

[Mirek]

Bad news from the morning :(

Pech didn't start into the second day. Yesterday he had some issues with the gearbox. It might be that. Afaik gearbox is generally the most problematic component of rally Porsches.

Also first pass through Malonty stage had to be canceled as the road after the yesterday's storms is in bad condition. Hopefully they'll do the second loop...

Ron, all drivers say that R5 cars are easier to drive than S2000.

Weird situation when Pešl who was off nearly run into passing Bisaha while getting back on the road: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/8956.html

[Mirek]

Check this short onboard of Kopecký from the hardest stage of yesterday (Kohout) to see how much Porsche friendly it is (by the way very spectacular pass through the spectator place in the village)...
http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/8958.html

Černý lost 3 minutes in a ditch. Not a good rally for him after a bad tyre choice for first loop yesterday.
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Still not clear if the second run of Malonty will be held or not. There is a lot of damage from yesterday's storm.

[RS]

According to Rally-base Malonty2 is cancelled also :(

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/rallye_cesky_krumlov_2016/jp_04.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/rallye_cesky_krumlov_2016/jp_43.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/rallye_cesky_krumlov_2016/jp_42.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=30472&fotograf=108

[Mirek]

Drivers said that it was good decision to cancel both runs because the conditions on the stage were too bad. Sometimes it was not possible to even see the road through broken branches, leaves or mud. Kopecký said there were even sometimes barriers from hailstones along the road...

[Mirek]

Accident of Černý: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8XqYZCQ0OI

Onboard of the accident: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/8964.html

Onboard selelection from Škoda (Kopecký part of SS2, Tidemand part of SS3): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wriV5eHq7bc

[Andre Oliveira]

Pity an driver with quality of Pech choose the Porsche. He with an R5 would be perfect battle :) Maybe Ford Czech want some competition against Skoda ;)

[Mirek]

Ford CZ isn't interested in rallying. However there is a hope that Hyundai will change the things. They see Škoda as their arch-rival and there's no better place to beat it than rally stages.

[Mirek]

Finish:

1. Kopecký (Fabia R5) 1:13:55,4
2. Tidemand (Fabia R5) +39,8
3. Dohnal (Focus WRC) +2:26,0
4. Jakeš (DS3 R5) +2:51,9 (only new dampers from the evo kit arrived in time)
5. Odložilík (Fiesta R5) +3:25,9
6. Štajf (Fabia R5) +4:22,5
7. Vlček (Fabia WRC) +4:52,1
8. Kopáček (Impreza STI gr.N) +5:47,3 (20 sec penalty)
9. Černý (Fabia S2000) +6:01,1
10. Jelínek (Fabia S2000) +6:01,1

Edit: Dohnal was acluded for taking fuel out of the fuel zone (it's strange because he's not the only one).

1. Kopecký (Fabia R5) 1:13:55,4
2. Tidemand (Fabia R5) +39,8
3. Jakeš (DS3 R5) +2:51,9 (only new dampers from the evo kit arrived in time)
4. Odložilík (Fiesta R5) +3:25,9
5. Štajf (Fabia R5) +4:22,5
6. Vlček (Fabia WRC) +4:52,1
7. Kopáček (Impreza STI gr.N) +5:47,3 (20 sec penalty)
8. Černý (Fabia S2000) +6:01,1
9. Jelínek (Fabia S2000) +6:01,1
10. Trněný (Fabia WRC) +6:11,7

[Andre Oliveira]

According portugal WRC event, EVO Kit of PSA is bad. Lets wait.

[Ucci]

Pity an driver with quality of Pech choose the Porsche. He with an R5 would be perfect battle ;)
Pech is VERY happy to drive 911. He is one of the few Chech drivers who is paid to drive, so even Porsche is better than standing behind stages and enjoying in spectating....

[itix]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLVyRAt2cxbxvOWJzNyH6zJECJ4fhkfYQv&v=wriV5eHq7bc

Not sure if this was posted here...
For those who aren't fluent in the elegant Scandinavian languages, Jonas seem to correct his own misread notes a lot... Is Tidemand sure he made a wise co-driver change? I'm not. I like him as a person and everything but two "Uuuh... no, correction [insert note change here]" in less than 3 minutes is not so impressive.

Sure it is a busy rally but he has been in the business long enough to handle that...

[Mirek]

Pech is VERY happy to drive 911. He is one of the few Chech drivers who is paid to drive, so even Porsche is better than standing behind stages and enjoying in spectating....

I don't think he is that happy. One thing is what he says on public but I personally don't believe that he is happy to have no chance against Kopecký and Škoda. They have been always his main rivals after all and I know he takes the fight against them quite personally.

[RS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLVyRAt2cxbxvOWJzNyH6zJECJ4fhkfYQv&v=wriV5eHq7bc

Not sure if this was posted here...
For those who aren't fluent in the elegant Scandinavian languages, Jonas seem to correct his own misread notes a lot... Is Tidemand sure he made a wise co-driver change? I'm not. I like him as a person and everything but two "Uuuh... no, correction [insert note change here]" in less than 3 minutes is not so impressive.

Sure it is a busy rally but he has been in the business long enough to handle that...

Maybe he is still adjusting to life alongside a fast driver.

[itix]

Maybe he is still adjusting to life alongside a fast driver.

I know that Østberg bashing is popular, but if we think about it, ~1 sec slower per km than the fastest world rally cars won't be felt inside the car. Also, the R5 is slower than the world rally car so... doubt it.

[RS]

I know that Østberg bashing is popular, but if we think about it, ~1 sec slower per km than the fastest world rally cars won't be felt inside the car. Also, the R5 is slower than the world rally car so... doubt it.

Yes, I was being a bit naughty with that statement, especially keeping in mind he is now in an R5 car, but I do think Tidemand is a faster driver than Mads.

[Rally Power]

I don't think he is that happy. One thing is what he says on public but I personally don't believe that he is happy to have no chance against Kopecký and Škoda.

After seeing what happened in Spain and the problems for European crews running them under FIA RGT rules the question really is: why FIA and ASN’s allow GT cars but undermine them so severely? There’s no room for hypocrisy. It’s true they can be dominant if they run without restrictor, but with current small restrictors they simply can’t be competitive.

So, are they’re useful for rally or not? If the answer is positive (and in full tarmac series there’s no doubt they can contribute for a greater show) then what FIA and ASN’s should do is to get a proper BoP with R5’s, fitting a correctly dimensioned restrictor on Gt’s or making them use a wisely calculated ballast. The current way they’re just fooling teams, drivers and fans.

[Mirek]

Pech's car has no restrictor. The reason why GTs can't be dominant in here is in our specific stages not in the power limitation.

And a question to You. Why does FIA limit R5 cars so much and allows them to run only with that small restrictor?

[Rally Power]

Pech's car has no restrictor. The reason why GTs can't be dominant in here is in our specific stages not in the power limitation.
And a question to You. Why does FIA limit R5 cars so much and allows them to run only with that small restrictor?

As I’ve mentioned, I do believe Gt’s should be penalized in same way but not undermined in order to become useless. That was what happened with FIA and RFEA current rules.

Your question about R5’s restrictions doesn’t make sense. They’re the second rally category after WRC so it’d be stupid to let them have a larger restrictor than WRC’s. Besides, they’ve become the benchmark for national series and in most countries Gt’s or RRC’s were clearly penalized to allow R5's to shine.

Honestly I didn’t know Pech’s 911 was unrestricted and it’s a strange choice for a competitive guy like him to get a car unfit for the Czech stages, as You say. Probably that was the reason why local ASN didn’t bother to adopt FIA GT rules.

[Mirek]

As I’ve mentioned, I do believe Gt’s should be penalized in same way but not undermined in order to become useless. That was what happened with FIA and RFEA current rules.

The whole restriction thing came in place for safety reasons. If we consider 350 Hp 4x4 unsafe why shall we consider 450 Hp RWD with engine behind rear axle to be safer?


Your question about R5’s restrictions doesn’t make sense. They’re the second rally category after WRC so it’d be stupid to let them have a larger restrictor than WRC’s. Besides, they’ve become the benchmark for national series and in most countries Gt’s or RRC’s were clearly penalized to allow R5 to shine.

It does make perfect sense. OK, we can ask the same question for WRC. Why does FIA limit them so much? Because there are some safety concers. And if approx. 300 Hp 4x4 is seen as maximum possible for safety reasons on regional/national level then there is no way how to justify to allow unrestricted GTs. Sorry for that but either we throw all this safety measures away and go totally unrestricted way for all cars or we have to follow the same logic. The physics is same for both classes after all.


Honestly I didn’t know Pech’s 911 was unrestricted and it’s a strange choice for a competitive guy like him to get a car unfit for the Czech stages, as You say. Probably that was the reason why local ASN didn’t bother to adopt FIA GT rules.

It's not totally unrestricted. There is a very strange formula set by our ASN that the car must not overcome 400 Hp but it doesn't have a restrictor per se. I have no idea how it can be controlled that the car doesn't have over 400 Hp without any form of restrictor. It's not technically possible. Anyway no physical restrictor helps also the torque curve, not only peak power.

What is important is that our ASN originally adopted R-GT rules but the team of Pech through lobbying managed to get this change in the rules.

And why did he choose this car? I don't think it was him personally who chose it. Anyway they bought the car to run FIA GT cup not Czech championship. The plans changed because there is nobody competing in FIA competition with GTs anymore.

[Rally Power]

The plans changed because there is nobody competing in FIA competition with GTs anymore.

...due to stupid FIA Gt rules.

The safety argument doesn’t stand here as max power isn’t the only factor to determine safety risks. R5’s are quicker than Gt’s in twisted sections; the opposite occurs on the fast ones; accidents can happen in both.

Overall it’s pretty clear: some people argue that R5’s shouldn’t get opposition from other cars in national series; others find it’s possible to establish a fair BoP and match different cars like Gt’s, RRC’s, N+’s or even MR’s with R5’s in order to get more diversity and competitive national series.

It’s hard to get a consensus on this one.

[Mirek]

The safety argument doesn’t stand here as max power isn’t the only factor to determine safety risks. R5’s are quicker than Gt’s in twisted sections; the opposite occurs on the fast ones; accidents can happen in both.

It's very clear. The whole safety standards in rallying for already three decades are based on power limitation. As I said if one class shall get some kind of exception than it means that the whole system shall be thrown out of the window. In that case there is no reason to limit either WRC or R5 cars.

There shall be no exceptions from existing rules. If some cars can't be competitive without getting an exception (not only on power but also on tyre size) than sorry but that's how it is.

[Rally Power]

You're focusing on the safety issue as an excuse to not consider there's a way to get a fair BoP matching different cars with R5's. N+'s cars are providing equal performances to R5's in some countries, but no one is considering them as a safety risk.

[WUff1]

...due to stupid FIA Gt rules.

The safety argument doesn’t stand here as max power isn’t the only factor to determine safety risks. R5’s are quicker than Gt’s in twisted sections; the opposite occurs on the fast ones; accidents can happen in both.

Overall it’s pretty clear: some people argue that R5’s shouldn’t get opposition from other cars in national series; others find it’s possible to establish a fair BoP and match different cars like Gt’s, RRC’s, N+’s or even MR’s with R5’s in order to get more diversity and competitive national series.

It’s hard to get a consensus on this one.

The possible rivalry from Gt-cars against cars from "traditional" manufacturers is the key question in my opinion.

[Mirek]

You're focusing on the safety issue as an excuse to not consider there's a way to get a fair BoP matching different cars with R5's.

No, I only want that same rules apply for everybody. Period.


N+'s cars are providing equal performances to R5's in some countries, but no one is considering them as a safety risk.

FIA does and so is our ASN. The fact is that far majority of all grave accidents all around the world happened with gr.N car and our country is no exception.

Actually many people here were even against 33 mm restrictor which was allowed by FIA some years a go to level Gr.N cars with S2000 (obviously for gravel events). It went so far that after a series of tragic accidents our ASN went back to 32 mm for the national sprint series (only last year they allowed again 33 mm).

[Mirek]

The possible rivalry from Gt-cars against cars from "traditional" manufacturers is the key question in my opinion.

No, the point is that until GT manufacturers are interested in rallying nobody has any reason to push for them. And those manufacturers won't be interested because there is obviously nothing to gain for them there. As I wrote in another thread - there is no point for Porsche to fight with Škoda or Peugeot. They are premium manufacturers who need to fight with other premium manufacturers not with some garbage for masses. The worst thing for their marketing is to loose with these cheap cars. Why shall anybody with at least half of his brain even think about that? It makes no sense at all.

[Mirek]

Talks aside, great video of the rally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSp76I1phMg

[Rally Power]

The possible rivalry from Gt-cars against cars from "traditional" manufacturers is the key question in my opinion.

Yep. It’s somehow understandable that FIA tends to protect manus directly involved in international rally, but ASN’s should have more liberal national rules, allowing private teams to run other kinds of competitive cars, besides those developed by official manu tuners.

[Mirek]

But that's what ASN do, isn't it? Far majority of countries where GT compete don't use FIA rules but their own more free ones.

[itix]

Yes, I was being a bit naughty with that statement, especially keeping in mind he is now in an R5 car, but I do think Tidemand is a faster driver than Mads.
Agree with you there... He seems consistent as well. Maybe matured a bit late and maybe not champion material but who knows, he can become a new Østberg or Sordo.

He is still beaten by Kopecky on Tarmac though and he is occasionally slower on gravel... And slower than the Finnish kamikaze pilot as well so I doubt he has a long career ahead of him.

Who can tell the future though?

[Ucci]

Talks aside, great video of the rally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSp76I1phMg

Stunning video, thanks for sharing it.

[Mirek]

One of the reasons why Malonty could not be run...

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2016/1445/1445_rally_Cesky_krumlov_2016_48e6cab252.jpg

[WUff1]

One of the reasons why Malonty could not be run...

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2016/1445/1445_rally_Cesky_krumlov_2016_48e6cab252.jpg

A new Jänner Rally just 30 km northwest of it´s old area ;)

[Mirek]

First full-stage onboards are online. Both SS2 and SS3 are very difficult stages worth watching.
http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy.html

[Mirek]

Full stage onboard of Pech!
http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/9014.html

[Ucci]

Full stage onboard of Pech!
http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/9014.html

911 is undrivable in the wet (first half of the 2nd stage). Shame for all R5&S2&N4 drivers who lost time compare to Pech on this stage....

[Mirek]

Why do You still keep repeating this BS about how 911 is undriveable?

[CWJ]

911 is undrivable in the wet (first half of the 2nd stage). Shame for all R5&S2&N4 drivers who lost time compare to Pech on this stage....

Wrong. With 4 small tyres and a proper ABS it is still quite fast in such conditions.

[Ucci]

Why do You still keep repeating this BS about how 911 is undriveable?

Well, if you think that 911 is a perfect rally car, it 's your opinion, I have nothing against it....

[Mirek]

I have never said so. You said it was undriveable and that's a lie. Period.

[Ucci]

I have never said so. You said it was undriveable and that's a lie. Period.

You should know...with so many miles under the belt with 911....

[br21]

CWJ for sure knows what he is talking about regarding 911 rally car, so nothing to discuss.

[EightGear]

Ahhhh, finally.


I'm getting my popcorn ready now for the inevitable Mirek vs. Ucci discussion.

[Mirek]

Ahhhh, finally.

Sorry, I take these talks about how crappy Porsche is a little bit personally as my brother works on its suspension and brakes development...

[itix]

That I can understand...

That said I am not a fan of Porsche. They are bit soulless and a bit too obvious for me (the image, looks etc)

Never driven one though so I can't really tell.

Obviously they drive ok though or they wouldn't fight with R5's. I am quite sure most rich man's cars with a too high horsepower to skills ratio would have problems doing that.

[Mirek]

Let's make it a bit more alive with another Pech's onboard - on wet and faster than Tidemand :)
http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/onboardy/9046.html

[stefanvv]

Pretty challenging stages for Pech SS2&3. Cool onboards.

[Mirek]

Photo from village Malonty after the hailstorm...

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/web/malonty.jpg

[Ucci]

Photo from village Malonty after the hailstorm...

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/web/malonty.jpg
Nice start of the summer....

[Mirek]

Only Kopecký entered for both Hustopeče and Bohemia. It looks like no more events in CZ for Tidemand are planned.

[WUff1]

Kreim at Rally Bohemia:

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/int/nachrichten/artikel/d/2016/06/12/englische-wochen-fuer-kreim-und-christian/

[Mirek]

Entry list for Rally Hustopeče: http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=18420

Definitely nice and this time I'll be there too :)

Valoušek is back, Grzyb shall be very fast too. Alltogether 7 WRC, 8 R5, 5 S2000 and 2 GT.

[liposh]

My personal tip is that Grzyb will be beaten by top 4 or 5 czech drivers very badly (counting also Valousek as czech driver despite being in slovak championship) but let´s wait and see.

[Ucci]

Yy
Entry list for Rally Hustopeče: http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=18420

Definitely nice and this time I'll be there too :)

Valoušek is back, Grzyb shall be very fast too. Alltogether 7 WRC, 8 R5, 5 S2000 and 2 GT.
Superb, waiting for your report.

[liposh]

My photo gallery from Rally Hustopece 2015: http://img.gg/MBNfmN1 (I don´t own any vest, I am normal fan)

[Ucci]

Mirek, what is the weather prediction for Agrotec-Hustopeče rally?

[Mirek]

No rain, no wind, some sun and 20-25°C during the day, less in the night section.

[Jeppe]

Typical Hustopeče weather then ;)

Mirek, will this be another Kopecký victory or could Asin deliver?? I presume that stages could be better for Porsche...

[liposh]

This rally would be even more tough for Asin and his Porsche. Until now it was narrow and bumpy tarmac, but tarmac. Now there is much more loose surface. They say 7,3% of gravel, but in fact everywhere will be that twisty dust and sand. Moreover there is a lot of panel surface and pavement. Only one place when he can be competitive are those wide roads between Divaky , Nikolcice and Hustopece cemetery.

[mousti]

I will be following it closely, it's debut of Achiel Boxoen in CZ.

[Mirek]

Mirek, will this be another Kopecký victory or could Asin deliver?? I presume that stages could be better for Porsche...

We'll see. Hard to say. I would say it is going to be a lot better than wet Kohout but I'm not sure at all after his performance in Krumlov. I don't have a feeling that Pech suffers with the traction. I think his main limitation in this moment are jumps and crests but there is a lot less of them in Hustopeče than in Krumlov, on the other hand some gravel doesn't help for sure. Personally I let myself being surprised.

[Mirek]

Live results from Hustopeče tonight: http://rally-base.com/2016/agrotec-petronas-syntium-rally-hustopece-2016/

Just a short explanation about what does it mean to have stage 1A and 1B. This stage (a classic one for the rally) had to be cut in two because an owner of circa 300 meters of the stage didn't agree to have the rally there.

[dimviii]

Pech slow at ss2,almost 1,5sec/km from Valousek.Has he got any problems?
Kopecky +8,2 from Valousek!

[dimviii]

Pech faster than previous stages but still 11,6 sec slower from Kopecky at 17 km stage. He is 29 sec slower at 32 km stages from leader Valousek,about 0,9 sec/km for the 3 stages.

[Jarek Z]

Problems for Pech? He loses over 1 minute and drops down to the 13th position on SS5.

https://scontent-waw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13483068_10205136829499033_1105465998398794255_o.j pg

[Mirek]

I have just returned from stages. According to Pavel Dresler they were doing some harvesting on SS1B (SS2). Big surprise for me is Štajf. By the way according to a friend Černý was probably slowed down by Odložilík driving slowly after his off in SS3B (SS5).

I was on SS1A (SS1) at a hi-speed jump on a narrow forest road near the finish. Kopecký for sure fastest there. Pech carefully, didn't jump at all (as I said before the rally he doesn't feel comfortable with Porsche on jumps). Also Grzyb surprisingly slow there. The biggest jump however goes to Rada with his Alfa Romeo N3 whose landing was anything but safe :)

Then I moved few hundred meters just after the start of SS3B (SS5) into a fast gravel section between the fields. The night was bright thanks to near full moon and the countryside was all quiet. One could enjoy listening the Porsche symphony in the fields :) Here Valoušek and Grzyb looked fastest (and most flamboyant). I was surprised how fast one can go on gravel with asphalt tyres without doing any drifting because for example Kopecký drove absolutely clean line. Pech didn't do any spectacular drifting. Even though he was spinning the wheels in every acceleration he kept the car straight.

[Jeppe]

Thank´s M ;)

Well.. It´s only 5.5s between Kopecký and Valousek after 1st day. I hope there´s gonna be nice battle today.

[Jasper]

Kirstiansen retired because of medical reasons? Hopefully not too bad?

[Ucci]

For the moment looks that Valda is the only one who can keep up with Kopecky. Štajf suprisingly fast, althoug the gap behind first two crews is alrady big.....Pech loosing a lot on 6th stage....Jan Donhal-is this his usual speed?

[dimviii]

Pech faster from Kopecky-Valda at ss 7.
Dohnal fastest.

[Ucci]

Pech faster from Kopecky-Valda at ss 7.
Dohnal fastest.

Funny....lol

[RS]

Kopecky seems a bit off colour? Or just pacing himself?

[dimviii]

pech retired from rechnical problem at ss 8

[Ucci]

pech retired from rechnical problem at ss 8
Whar a shitty season for him....

[Mirek]

Kirstiansen retired because of medical reasons? Hopefully not too bad?

AFAIK he didn't start because of Ypres. I think that the team was afraid not to crash the car in Hustopeče. You know with Petter there is always a good chance of some accident.

[Mirek]

Short summary of my day. Beautiful summer weather, nice places and everyone friendly everywhere I was. Nice change from some other Czech events.

A bit accidentally I got to an awesome place for the last stage - a high speed sharp right-hander over a big crest on a narrow road. A lot of the cars were jumping at least a little but it was Kopecký who overshoot the most. He flew nearly into the bank on the left side of the road and landed into full brakes nearly spinning (on 5th gear).

Hustopeče has been always a lot about power (and torque) as there are many accelerations from first gear, some rpm limiter straights etc. That's why Dohnal was so fast today. It's very difficult for S2000 cars. On the other hand Valoušek did his best rally in CZ in years and Štajf definitely surprised everyone. Odložilík also drove very nice everywhere I was.

[Mirek]

Final results:

1. Kopecký (Fabia R5) 1:25:43,8
2. Valoušek (Fabia R5) +28,0
3. Dohnal (Focus WRC) +1:29,5 (10 sec penalty)
4. Štajf (Fabia R5) +1:46,6
5. Grzyb (FIest R5) +2:30,2
6. Černý (Fabia S2000) +2:48,9 (10 sec penalty)
7. Bisaha (Fiesta R5) +2:56,6 (5 sec penalty)
8. Trněný (Fabia WRC) +3:23,8 (10 sec penalty)
9. Majerčák (Fiesta R5) +4:18,4
10. Březík (Evo IX gr.N) +4:18,7

Notable retirements or problems: Pech (Porsche 997 GT3, technical problems), Odložilík (Fiesta R5, accident), Ondrej (Fabia WRC, technical problems), Kopáček (Impreza STI gr.N, accident)

[Mirek]

One more info. The reason why Kopecký was slow on the first stage today is that he caught Grzyb on the half-circuit and in the end needed to push him to pass him. As a result of the incident Kopecký cracked his radiator and was lucky to finish the loop. Valoušek also reported issues with coolant leak and Grzyb on the other hand complained about lack of power.

[Mirek]

Big moment of Kukučka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7cybCmB_Kk

[Mirek]

Pech retired after he took third rear tire off the rim. It wasn't a technical problem per se but he said he was frustrated as he didn't know why it kept repeating again and again.

[stefanvv]

Pech retired after he took third rear tire off the rim. It wasn't a technical problem per se but he said he was frustrated as he didn't know why it kept repeating again and again.

Aren't these tyres too narrow for his rims?

[Mirek]

I think that what You see on Jarek's photo is front tyre put in the rear. You can carry only one spare in Porsche and since it is impossible to put the big rear wheel on front axle You have to use the smaller one as spare.

By the way he used Pirelli in Krumlov and Hankook in Šumava. I am going to find out for Hustopeče.

[Mirek]

Hi-speed video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfW60DZuVH8

[Mirek]

By the way he used Pirelli in Krumlov and Hankook in Šumava. I am going to find out for Hustopeče.

Pirelli

[Jarek Z]

My personal tip is that Grzyb will be beaten by top 4 or 5 czech drivers very badly (counting also Valousek as czech driver despite being in slovak championship) but let´s wait and see.

And you were right. Grzyb was 5th, over 2 minutes behind Kopecky. How did you know it? :)

http://www.autoklub.pl/news/foto/201606/news20160618_68782h.jpg

[stefanvv]

Pirelli

Do You know the reason for these changes?

[Mirek]

I have no other idea than performance.

[Ucci]

What to say-thanks to Mirek for his report and congratulations to Kopecky.

[Mirek]

Spectacular video from JNK with a lot of driving mistakes: https://youtu.be/BFwOCp7X2Wk

[stefanvv]

Spectacular video from JNK with a lot of driving mistakes: https://youtu.be/BFwOCp7X2Wk

Mot every day is seen Porsche with tarmac spec on such bumpy roads. The performance @4:50 is unique:D. Night shots are amazing....

[Mirek]

A spectacular off by Kopecký from first leg: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy/9130.html
Accident of Kopáček (no damage): http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy/9135.html
Černý spinnng at the place where Odložilík went off: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy/9137.html
Two big moments in 20 seconds for Zpěvák: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy/9142.html
Růžička hitting a stump: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy/9147.html
Adolf off: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy/9144.html

[dimviii]

wow Kopecky was very lucky to spin with such a speed.

[Rally Power]

Thanks for the CZ Gt rules Mirek. Apparently there's something wrong with my PM definitions as I can't send them.

Btw, what's your, and the other forum mates, estimation of a fairly dimensioned restrictor for a 3.8 911, having in mind that with 39 (FIA) or 42mm (RFEDA) they can’t match R5’s? Could 50mm be too large?

[Mirek]

I don't think that it is possible to somehow match GT cars and R5. If GT's shall be competitive against R5 for example on our stages than the very same cars will be completely dominant in Spain as the roads are generally very different (and vice versa). Anyway 50 mm restrictor is nonsense. You have to consider that what matters about restrictor size is its area and that depends on diameter squared.

39 mm - 1194 mm2 - let's say 100%
42 mm - 1385 mm2 - 116%
50 mm - 1963 mm2 - 164%

As I said many times first of all I don't see any reason why to even try to push for GT cars when their manufacturers don't give a shit about rallying. For me it's complete nonsense to push for them against manufacturers who are actually active in rallying and who keep the sport going.

[Jarek Z]

As I said many times first of all I don't see any reason why to even try to push for GT cars when their manufacturers don't give a shit about rallying.

I welcome with open arms every possibility to make rally sport more exciting than it is now. It was great to see the Porsches when I was in Belgium a few years ago. It was great to see such drivers as Duez, Snijers, Van Parijs, Delecour or Dumas driving Porsches in WRC and ERC. And it is great to see the videos of Pech that you posted. The cars are beautiful and the engine sound is unforgettable. Would you prefer to see another boring group N Mitsubishi Lancer instead?

[stefanvv]

I welcome with open arms every possibility to make rally sport more exciting than it is now. It was great to see the Porsches when I was in Belgium a few years ago. It was great to see such drivers as Duez, Snijers, Van Parijs, Delecour or Dumas driving Porsches in WRC and ERC. And it is great to see the videos of Pech that you posted. The cars are beautiful and the engine sound is unforgettable. Would you prefer to see another boring group N Mitsubishi Lancer instead?

On the flip side of the coin Mitsubishi are also not interested in rallying manufacturer.
For Your list I can add the German and Spanish (until this year) drivers with those cars. Not speaking of other more open classes in different parts of the world N5+ in Spain, Maxi rally class, NZ open class, etc, etc. All these add great variety to the sport and manufacturers are not interested in them as well.

[Ucci]

On the flip side of the coin Mitsubishi are also not interested in rallying manufacturer.
For Your list I can add the German and Spanish (until this year) drivers with those cars. Not speaking of other more open classes in different parts of the world N5+ in Spain, Maxi rally class, NZ open class, etc, etc. All these add great variety to the sport and manufacturers are not interested in them as well.
You are right.

[Mirek]

I welcome with open arms every possibility to make rally sport more exciting than it is now. It was great to see the Porsches when I was in Belgium a few years ago. It was great to see such drivers as Duez, Snijers, Van Parijs, Delecour or Dumas driving Porsches in WRC and ERC. And it is great to see the videos of Pech that you posted. The cars are beautiful and the engine sound is unforgettable. Would you prefer to see another boring group N Mitsubishi Lancer instead?

I understand Your point of view but rallying like any other motorsport is primarily a business activity for the manufacturers. There is no point helping someone who doesn't contribute in any way at the expense of those who do. It's not fair after all. To allow them running? Why not but to allow them fighting with those who contribute? It's giving them promotion for free and in the same time making the traditional manufacturers angry. Why would anyone sane do that?

[liposh]

And you were right. Grzyb was 5th, over 2 minutes behind Kopecky. How did you know it? :)

http://www.autoklub.pl/news/foto/201606/news20160618_68782h.jpg

And I also said Pech will struggle with his Porsche much more than in previous rounds.How did I know that? I am simply fabulous. :) Sometimes it seems to me some people and especially Mirek are little bit underestimating me, which hurts because I respect him :D And now seriously: I know that region very well because I live there and I know a lot about rallying. Simple.

[Mirek]

How do You know that Pech struggled more? He had three punctures but also managed to be faster than R5 cars on some stages.

[liposh]

And here we go again. He had three punctures, so he struggled more. Why do You do this everytime? I say something and I am right because I had good info and it is not a coincidence, but you just have to argue with me whether first was chicken or egg.

[Mirek]

Whatever floats Your boat.

[dimviii]

I understand Your point of view but rallying like any other motorsport is primarily a business activity for the manufacturers. There is no point helping someone who doesn't contribute in any way at the expense of those who do. It's not fair after all. To allow them running? Why not but to allow them fighting with those who contribute? It's giving them promotion for free and in the same time making the traditional manufacturers angry. Why would anyone sane do that?

of course they can compete. With RULES,as everybody last decades at rallies.
Nobody said to dont compete.But not with 150bhp more.

[Rally Power]

I don't think that it is possible to somehow match GT cars and R5. If GT's shall be competitive against R5 for example on our stages than the very same cars will be completely dominant in Spain as the roads are generally very different (and vice versa). Anyway 50 mm restrictor is nonsense. You have to consider that what matters about restrictor size is its area and that depends on diameter squared.
39 mm - 1194 mm2 - let's say 100%
42 mm - 1385 mm2 - 116%
50 mm - 1963 mm2 - 164%
As I said many times first of all I don't see any reason why to even try to push for GT cars when their manufacturers don't give a shit about rallying. For me it's complete nonsense to push for them against manufacturers who are actually active in rallying and who keep the sport going.

Big restrictors are used as a BoP tool in several GT racing series; it’s a shame, and a waste for the sport, only allow Gt’s to rally when undermined by small restrictors.

About Porsche being uninterested in rally: for sure that’s the case in Stuttgart headquarters, but importers and dealers can see it differently. In Spain, Ares is backed by an official local Porsche Centre, like Vallejo and Fuster were in the past, and even the importer gives him some support.

But the main point, like Jarek and Stefan have mention, it’s not Porsche’s case; it’s the diversity of eligible cars in rally series. With the current FIA rules every driver or team has to buy a car from the official manus tuners, even on the lower classes! The problem is that some brands involved in rallying are no longer paying attention to privateers (take VW case) and the number of homologated cars under the R Group classes is ridiculously low.

So, if local ASN’s decide to spread rally car options for their drivers and teams, that’s quite encouraging and rally fans will certainly appreciate that diversity on the stages.

[dimviii]

it’s a shame, and a waste for the sport, only allow Gt’s to rally when undermined by small restrictors.


why the restrictors are ''small''?????
even with these ''small'' restrictors are more powerfull from r5 cars.

[liposh]

My photo gallery from XII. rally Hustopece: http://img.gg/T9s81jV

[Rally Power]

why the restrictors are ''small''?????
even with these ''small'' restrictors are more powerfull from r5 cars.

Honestly I don’t get why you’re still resuming these R5 vs GT on the 911’s max power. What about R5 rally purposed design, superior handling, 4wd transmission and turbo engine? They’re different concepts, each one has their advantages and weaknesses and it’s possible to make them rallying without undermine them.

[dimviii]

Honestly I don’t get why you’re still resuming these R5 vs GT on the 911’s max power.
because this was the reason they won.Not from driving.As you see at Spain ,they are still faster at starights,but cant win,another car that dont follow fia rules.is that normal for you?


What about R5 rally purposed design, superior handling, 4wd transmission and turbo engine? They’re different concepts, each one has their advantages and weaknesses and it’s possible to make them rallying without undermine them.

all these you wrote about ''purposed design'' ''superior handling'' etc are inside the rules.Nobody of any r5 car choosed to have 150 bhp more than another r5 car.,nore fatter tyres.
if they want to compete are welcome,but not to steal the glory from the players that follow the rules.
Really cant understand why you want to compete 911s with power advantage that they use at straights.Is this rallying?
whats the problem to compete with same weight/power as r5 cars? they still oversteer,there are sideways,and the engine sound is present.
Really cant find one reason why they have to compete with 150 bhp more,and still nobody has give me his opinion here after so many times we have discussed to death.

[Rally Power]

Ok dimviii, it’s pretty obvious we’ll never agree on this one. Just one question: have you ever seen one of these modern 911's driven by a top driver on a rally stage?

[stefanvv]

Is this rallying?

And what is rallying?

[stefanvv]

Really cant find one reason why they have to compete with 150 bhp more,and still nobody has give me his opinion here after so many times we have discussed to death.

So it seems You believe Group B was a mistake? I still see people (including me more or less) are a bit of nostalgic of those times....

[dimviii]

So it seems You believe Group B was a mistake?
no because all cars were running under same rules.


I still see people (including me more or less) are a bit of nostalgic of those times....

and some others are nostalgic about volvos and rwd escorts.So what?

[dimviii]

Ok dimviii, it’s pretty obvious we’ll never agree on this one. Just one question: have you ever seen one of these modern 911's driven by a top driver on a rally stage?

i ve drive plenty of 911s,but no i dont have seen at rallies. But will not impress me a slower car at corners,that take advantage at straights.

[dimviii]

And what is rallying?

try to find out.As you find,you will not ask for competitors with 150 bhp advantage at cars that are not suited for rallies.

[stefanvv]

no because all cars were running under same rules.

Really? Did they had any restrictors?


and some others are nostalgic about volvos and rwd escorts.So what?

These are still rolling the rallies around Europe. The point is there is a place for every fan or whatsoever. Some prefer Porcshes, some prefer R2 & R1 and whatsoever.

[stefanvv]

try to find out.

I thought I knew, but modern times are confusing me a lot. For sure any kind of restriction wasn't a concern in 1911.

[Rally Power]

i ve drive plenty of 911s,but no i dont have seen at rallies. But will not impress me a slower car at corners,that take advantage at straights.

You’re luckier than me; I’ve only driven an old SC a couple of times (with the owner shouting to slow down) but since ’08 or ’09 I’ve been able to attend some of the Spanish champ rounds on the beautiful Galiza region and believe me, modern 911’s cars are great to watch on a rally and their top drivers are much more than “drag racers”.

To be frank, the first time I was a bit shocked to see those bulky machines running on such narrow roads (there was also a 360 GT…) and the spectator’s reaction seemed a bit hysterical, but year after year one get to know what drivers really can take all from those magnificent cars and how entertaining they can be on a rally stage.

I won’t exaggerate like rallyes.net guys titled about last Spanish event “The Porsche’s have comeback; the spectacle has comeback”, because in every category there are great drivers delivering amazing performances (like in R2), but there’s no doubt Gt’s are a plus in tarmac rallys and their top drivers should be praised as all the others.

Videos don’t make justice, but take a look at Ares 911 (0:04 and 5:07) on this nice video from Bunnings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JqvrqEW12Q

[stefanvv]

because in every category there are great drivers delivering amazing performances (like in R2)

I agree, You can see great driving in every category allowed. I also don't see a point arguing between (R)GT & R5 classes, these are just different classes in rally as any other, be it R(N) or not. If some category has its supporters, then why not? It just promotes rally as a motorsport, is it not?

[Mirek]

Really? Did they had any restrictors?

What kind of argument is that? All gr.B cars run under same rules. It doesn't matter what exactly was in that rules if those rules were same for all.

Here we are arguaing that according to You or some other members it is unfair when R5 car run with huge 32 mm restrictor against poor GT cars whose tiny restrictor has only 42 mm diameter. How incredibly unfair from R5 cars to have as much as 58% of restrictor size of Spanish GT cars. According to Rally Power that is unfair as those Spanish GT cars can't compete with R5 cars.


These are still rolling the rallies around Europe. The point is there is a place for every fan or whatsoever. Some prefer Porcshes, some prefer R2 & R1 and whatsoever.

And some prefer fair competition. Simple as that.

[stefanvv]

What kind of argument is that? All gr.B cars run under same rules. It doesn't matter what exactly was in that rules if those rules were same for all.

How then You compare Lancia 037, AUDI Quattro and Peugeot 205. Which rules make them equal?


Here we are arguaing that according to You or some other members it is unfair when R5 car run with huge 32 mm restrictor against poor GT cars whose tiny restrictor has only 42 mm diameter. How incredibly unfair from R5 cars to have as much as 58% of restrictor size of Spanish GT cars. According to Rally Power that is unfair as those Spanish GT cars can't compete with R5 cars.

Don't be angry, I just point out every class has its supporters.


And some prefer fair competition. Simple as that.

How fair is R1 vs R5 competition, are You serious?

[Mirek]

How then You compare Lancia 037, AUDI Quattro and Peugeot 205. Which rules make them equal?

Gr.B rules. All of those cars were built under SAME rules. Feel free to prove me wrong.



Don't be angry, I just point out every class has its supporters.

OK. Let's say I am a fan of R3 cars. Now tell me why I can't get 40 mm restrictor for my DS3 R3? I'm pretty sure I could defeat R5 cars on dry asphalt with that.


How fair is R1 vs R5 competition, are You serious?

Completely irrelevant and pointless example. Try harder.

[stefanvv]

Gr.B rules. All of those cars were built under SAME rules. Feel free to prove me wrong.

And what are the common rules that should make R5 and GT cars equal. Aren't these completely different classes (Which makes Gr. B the most free class ever made).


OK. Let's say I am a fan of R3 cars. Now tell me why I can't get 40 mm restrictor for my DS3 R3? I'm pretty sure I could defeat R5 cars on dry asphalt with that.

That just points out classes difference, what of it?


Completely irrelevant and pointless example. Try harder.

Oh yes it is relevant. I'm not fighting GT vs R5 war. It is just a simple example of different rally classes, may be little bit extreme, but still relevant to my posts.

[Mirek]

And what are the common rules that should make R5 and GT cars equal. Aren't these completely different classes (Which makes Gr. B the most free class ever made).

I won't continue this gymnastics You show here. You wrote a nonsense, I pointed it was nonsense. Period. Everyone can read the discussion. Don't try to twist it.


That just points out classes difference, what of it?

Since when is any class allowed to have 100 Hp more than the top class? Show me any kind of motorsport where any private class is allowed 100 Hp more than the best works cars and where its fans still cry that it's not enough. This is exactly the case of GTs.


Oh yes it is relevant. I'm not fighting GT vs R5 war. It is just a simple example of different rally classes, may be little bit extreme, but still relevant....

No, it was irrelevant nonsense.

[stefanvv]

I won't continue this gymnastics You show here. You wrote a nonsense, I pointed it was nonsense. Period. Everyone can read the discussion. Don't try to twist it.



Since when is any class allowed to have 100 Hp more than the top class? Show me any kind of motorsport where any private class is allowed 100 Hp more than the best works cars and where its fans still cry that it's not enough. This is exactly the case of GTs.



No, it was irrelevant nonsense.

It is You started this discussion, I already knew it is pointless, but here we are.
Anyway I don't agree with Your points. You enjoy R5, I enjoy diversity, isn't it personal choice?

[Mirek]

Again You're twisting the point. It's not about liking or disliking something. It's about a complete and utter insanity in allowing one particular non-factory-supported class to have 100+ Hp more than anything else in the sport. This is simply ridiculous. If You can't see that than I'm sorry but You'll stay disappointed for many years to come.

[stefanvv]

Again You're twisting the point. It's not about liking or disliking something. It's about a complete and utter insanity in allowing one particular non-factory-supported class to have 100+ Hp more than anything else in the sport. This is simply ridiculous. If You can't see that than I'm sorry but You'll stay disappointed for many years to come.

I'm not twisting my point for sure. Cite me where I said it is fair to compare GT & R5 classes and I'll take my words back. And I didn't said anywhere rally is a fair sport, isn't that ridiculous to claim?
May be I'll be sorry for this may be I won't, it is just an opinion, anyone can take it, or not. Rally has been changing all the time, I wouldn't be surprised of anything......

[CWJ]

Hehe, I like competition too. As far as I know and predict, no (R)GT won / wins any CZ rally, just stages from time to time and maybe a single car comes to a podium and attract spectators, so what ;-?

[Mirek]

Hehe, I like competition too. As far as I know and predict, no (R)GT won / wins any CZ rally, just stages from time to time and maybe a single car comes to a podium and attract spectators, so what ;-?

Since the team was allowed to basically create rules for itself I don't agree at all with such approach. For me such situation is simply non-acceptable.

[Mirek]

This is the massive big moment of Kopecký I saw on the last stage. It's at 1:15. http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy/9197.html

Valoušek fastest time on SS2, I was spectating at the spectacular place just after the start: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy/9187.html

A lot of other onboards including Pech's: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy.html?page=1

[Mirek]

Kopecký on Rally Bohemia with livery inspired by a 35 years old movie about a car using driver's blood as a fuel :-)

Photos from the test: http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=34878&fotograf=161
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/test_kopecky_kreim_before_bohemia_rally_2016/km_3.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/test_kopecky_kreim_before_bohemia_rally_2016/km_32.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/test_kopecky_kreim_before_bohemia_rally_2016/km_23.jpg

Original Ferat car from the movie now in the Škoda museum (in fact it was an older prototype never brought into production)
http://auta5p.eu/muzea/muzeum_skoda_2013/skoda_01.jpg

[Jeppe]

Kopecký on Rally Bohemia with livery inspired by a 35 years old movie about a car using driver's blood as a fuel :-)

Original Ferat car from the movie now in the Škoda museum (in fact it was an older prototype never brought into production)

Nice - I like the livery!!

BTW is the museum @Mlada Boleslav?

[Mirek]

Yes, it is here: https://mapy.cz/s/P6nN

Actually I wasn't there after a major reconstruction which happened some two or three years a go. In that time they had a lot more cars in the depository than on display due to the space and they sometimes changed the displayed cars.

[Jarek Z]

Kopecký on Rally Bohemia with livery inspired by a 35 years old movie about a car using driver's blood as a fuel :-)


Wow! Amazing story! I have never heard about this movie:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083264/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl
Now I have to watch it! Where can I find it?! :)

[Jarek Z]

Anybody knows how many octanes Kopecky's blood has? What result can we expect? :)

[Mirek]

Frankly I have never watched it. I'm not that fond of watching movies and talking about them with me is usually just a waste of time :)

[Jeppe]

+100 ;)

and I mean Kopecky´s blood (not the movie)..

[Jarek Z]

Frankly I have never watched it. I'm not that fond of watching movies and talking about them with me is usually just a waste of time :)

But we are talking about a car that sucks blood out of its own driver! How is that not interesting?! It's better than Stephen King!!! :)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Skoda_110_Super_sport_%27Ferat%27_type_724_pic5.JP G

[Jarek Z]

Just look at that...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk8wbtfEAII

[Mirek]

Kreim with a car from Kresta Racing (not the one which Tarabus use but not yet used one).

[Munkvy]

That's a very subtle but effective livery!

[PLuto]

But we are talking about a car that sucks blood out of its own driver! How is that not interesting?! It's better than Stephen King!!! :)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/80/Skoda_110_Super_sport_%27Ferat%27_type_724_pic5.JP G

I must say that I love the film. Especially because some parts were shooted during the real Rally Škoda/Bohemia 1981. Unfortunately, strong communistic censorship destroyed quality of that movie...

[PLuto]

Very nice video of Skoda promotion before Bohemia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuB7jWzradQ

[Mirek]

Rally Bohemia starts at 13:48.

Live results modern: http://rally-base.com/2016/rally-bohemia-2016/
Historics: http://rally-base.com/2016/rally-bohemia-2016-historic/

Very strange format this year with only very few and mostly circuit stages, moreover with very long road sections...

[PLuto]

One add to Mireks post - rally starts tomorrow, on Saturday...

[sete]

Fabia R5

[Mirek]

Nice colors for Kreim

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/test_kopecky_kreim_before_bohemia_rally_2016/km_14.jpg

[Mirek]

Start of SS1 is postponed by 20 minutes approximately. There was a storm in Mladá Boleslav, several trees fell on the road and have to be removed.

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Pech faster than Kopecky on stage 1. Great!!!

[Mirek]

SS1/3 is the most GT friendly stage in the route, it's mostly wide with long straights and quite smooth surface. If it wasn't just after the storm he would take for sure a lot more time from Kopecký and I am pretty sure that Dohnal would be faster too.

Storm reported also on SS2/4. Hopefully it can be run.

[Mirek]

Both best Subaru gr.N drivers report technical problems. Kopáček low turbo pressure, Szeja faulty spark plugs. Also Bisaha with technical problems with throttle. A lot of crews report not ideal tyres but it may be different on next stage which is very far in the nord.

[Mirek]

Crazy SS2... Kopecký way ahead. Odložilík and Bisaha crashed. Dohnal was off and after that had problems with transmission. Jakeš was off and then stopped at Odložilík and Dohnal. Vlček and Jelínek lost brakes towards finish. To be continued.

[kiil]

Stage 2 stopped?

[Mirek]

No, it runs normally. Why do You ask?

[kiil]

Results not updating on e-wrc.

[Mirek]

Aha, use rally-base.com. That's the official timing for Czech championship and it's connected directly to the timing system.

Direct link: http://rally-base.com/2016/rally-bohemia-2016/

I guess You follow Jacob Madsen? :) He's doing very well.

[kiil]

Thanks, will do. Yes Jacob is doing quite well, he will be back for Barum.

[Mirek]

From SS4... Kreim changed wheel, Štajf spun, Kopáček still problems with turbo, Szeja hit a bus stop but still won the stage in gr.N.

Regarding Pech's times please note that SS4 is very difficult and completely wet stage (and a beautiful one)!

[Mirek]

From SS5: Vojtěch retired before start with broken turbo, Adolf crashed. Madsen retired (technical problems). Kopáček with broken driveshaft still faster than Březík. He said he has spare one and will try to repair it. Szeja changed wheel. Dohnal had to stop twice at crash of Adolf (it's very long circuit stage).

[Ucci]

Pech's times are awesome....

[Mirek]

SS7 started 28 minutes late.

[Mirek]

From SS7: Černý (engine) and Szeja retired with technical problems. Puncture for Kopáček, still faster than Březík but it's most likely not enough for city stage.

[Mirek]

Finish:

1. Kopecký (Fabia R5) 1:32:35,3
2. Pech (997 GT3) +1:00,4
3. Vlček (Fiesta R5) +2:06,7
4. Štajf (Fabia R5) +2:27,9 (15 sec penalty)
5. Jakeš (DS3 R5) +3:06,8 (20 sec penalty)
6. Jelínek (Fabia S2000) +3:12,2
7. Kreim (Fabia R5) +3:48,4 (changed wheel on stage)
8. Březík (Evo IX gr.N) +4:28,7
9. Kopáček (STI gr.N) +4:29,0 (broken driveshaft, puncture and turbo problems)
10. Dohnal (Focus WRC) +4:46,9 (went off)

Very eventful event despite few but very long stages. Now at the end Kopáček nearly managed to catch Březík but 0,3 seconds was missing. I think there is finally some new real talent. Ján Kundlák, young Slovak R2 driver, he is very fast everywhere despite near zero experience.

[nafpaktos]

videos?

[Mirek]

Wait for tomorrow ;)

Here an accident of Odložilík: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L__cwj5PW_8

[sete]

my gallery
http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1461

[Mirek]

videos?

Here You go ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jebXNhQYQe8

As usually top quality from JNK and as usually stage by stage in chronological order.

One small thing. I guess some of You remember the old narrow Návarov bridge with wooden floor from many Czech rally and testing videos. This bridge is no more. After 66 years they replaced this famous provisional bridge in Návarov valey by new one (4:32 in the video). The provisional one was built in 1949 because the Germans blew the original one up. The bridge was a standard unit used by US Army Engineers.

[RS]

Great video and thanks for history lesson :)

Kopecky's car seems super-powerful, have they had some engine software update recently maybe?

[stefanvv]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jebXNhQYQe8

Great video!. This is crazy - https://youtu.be/jebXNhQYQe8?t=511

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2016/photos/rally_bohemia_2016/vbe_p7020978.jpg

more
http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=30766&fotograf=10

[Mirek]

The most GT friendly (and by far the fastest) stage with Pech adn Kopecký to compare (different runs though)

Pech: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy/9297.html
Kopecký: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy/9301.html

Notice that there are quite many places where Pech reaches the top speed of the Porsche while on the same places R5 can't reach even it's a lot lower top speed. Pech also drives very clean with absolute minimum of drifting. On the other hand Kopecký keeps sliding a lot more but it's also because the first run was more wet and he was on slicks. Also notice how much Kopecký suffers from understeering in the first corners. It's because the stage was postponed (due to a storm) and his tyres got cold. Generally Pech's onboard is a lot smoother and cleaner while Kopecký's is quite brutal and flamboyant.

[Mirek]

Onboard of Pech from the true northern classic stage of Rally Bohemia (including the bridge shortly before the finish), full wet conditions: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy/9345.html

Big moment of Kopáček: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy/9295.html

[Mirek]

Martin Vlček after his surprising premiere in Rally Bohemia confirmed that he intends to stay with the R5 machinery (next confirmed event is Barum rally). He was very happy about the Fiesta and it was clear he was in a way surprised how much fun it can be compared to solving neverending technical problems with the old Fabia WRC.

And who has not enough of Pech's onboards can watch this one: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy/9366.html

[Mirek]

Rally Krušné Hory (a free event to be held next week) is canceled due to lack of entrants.

[Mirek]

One of the most spectator friendly event Rally Pačejov (30th July) has revealed its entry list. I would say worth spectating :)
http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=18535

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

One of the most spectator friendly event Rally Pačejov (30th July) has revealed its entry list. I would say worth spectating :)
http://www.autosport.cz/zavody/soubor.php?f=18535


Really nice entry list. Also interesting to see, that Kostka uses a BRR car.

[Mirek]

For Kostka it's most likely test for Barum.

[Mirek]

Live results from Rally Pačejov tomorrow starting at 8:58 here: http://rally-base.com/2016/eplcond-rally-agropa-pacejov-2016/

[Mirek]

I had a nice rally, great hot sunny day, some nice action, a lot of offs and mistakes and I also met many friends.

Results:

1. Dohnal (Focus WRC) 39:52,6
2. Kostka (Fabia R5) +31,4
3. Odložilík (Fiesta R5) +1:01,1
4. Vlček (Fiesta R5) +1:10,1
5. Sýkora (Fabia R5) +1:17,6
6. Kahle (Fabia R5) +1:28,7
7. Bisaha (Fiesta R5) 2:43,9
8. Šlehofer (Evo IX R4) +3:08,4
9. Tomek (Fabia S2000) +3:18,6
10. Rujbr (Clio R3T) +3:24,9

[Ucci]

For Kostka it's most likely test for Barum.

Kostka impressed me again...IMO he is waisting time on circuits, as he is huge rally talent. Looking forward to see him on Barum.

[Mirek]

Top quality video from JNK as always: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oN0eKBiXaw

[Mirek]

Onboard from Pačejov are here: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy.html?page=1

I recommend this one from arguably the best stage of our rallysprint season: http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy/9437.html

[Mirek]

Same stage with Kostka (second run). I can't help myself but in the first part of the stage the notes from co-driver come very often too late.
http://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy/9439.html

[Mirek]

Jakeš just confirmed his end in Gemini team.

[WUff1]

Jakeš just confirmed his end in Gemini team.

Interesting.

[Mirek]

Rally Jeseníky (sprint) is canceled :( Officially due to too many roadworks everywhere around the rally center which prevents stages to be held there.

[Mirek]

Most rallysprint is also canceled. It will be held only as a limited show event. The only remaining uncanceled event Rally Vsetín will take place normally.

[PLuto]

But this time the biggest mistake is on side of organisers, who didnt show enough effort to organise a proper event...

[Mirek]

I thought it was mainly the ASN who pushed them to do something they didn't want themselves.

[PLuto]

I thought it was mainly the ASN who pushed them to do something they didn't want themselves.

I thought so, but true is different. But it is better not to write it through the forums...

[Mirek]

It wasn't me who started blaming...

[Mirek]

Live results from Rally Příbram: https://rally-base.com/2016/svk-rally-pribram-2016/

Pech leading.

SS5 canceled due to too high average speed in first pass.

[Mirek]

A rain in the last section caused Pech to loose the lead to Dohnal. Final results:

1. Dohnal (Focus WRC) 1:16:45,9
2. Pech (Porsche 997 GT3) +26,1
3. Štajf (Fabia R5) +1:18,7
4. Černý (Fabia R5) +1:40,0
5. Vlček (Fiesta R5) +4:20,4 (1:25 penalty)
6. Trojan (Fabia R5) +5:01,0
7. Szeja (Impreza STI gr.N) +5:18,1
8. Sýkora (Evo IX R4) +5:38,2
9. Březík (Evo IX gr.N) +5:49,8 (10 sec penalty)
10. Tomek (Fabia S2000) +6:20,8 (5 sec penalty)

First onboards already online: https://www.mediasport.cz/rally/ceske-rally/onboardy.html

[Mirek]

Video from Příbram: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ssmAImJjUs

[Mirek]

By the way based on some photos in Příbram Pech used Pirelli tyres on the front and Michelin on the rear axle. They have been trying various tyres and their combinations through the whole season.