Rally Wrc Monte Carlo 2017

[Fast Eddie WRC]

at same page?

Yep.

I think the website is acting weird though.

[danon]

It's on purpose to hook as many fishes as possible to WRC+

[dimviii]

Ogier again without splits???

[dimviii]

It's on purpose to hook as many fishes as possible to WRC+

no way,even with 1 euro for 20 years.
When the product will be as they HAVE to be,no problem at whatever amount

[bluuford]

for me normal splits are working from wrc.com in Chrome and wrc+ working fine only in firefox :)

[car]

Latvala quicker then Neuville at 1st split

[TheFlyingTuga]

Ohhh Latvala with a good first slip! 0.2 faster than Neuville! Unfortunatelly we don't have Ogier splits :/

[EstWRC]

what a split again by Tänak

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Try the old link - Results, not Live Centre: http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/results/live/stage-times/page/60-294-59--.html

[WUff1]

Tänak!

[EstWRC]

Ogier and Tänak basically the same in second split. Neuvilel already 13 secs down in 3rd split to ogier

[car]

Neuville has lost 15 secs to Ogier by split 3... maybe it's not all over

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Idiots !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2ntqSiWIAEZu1o.jpg

[satukata]

any link FACEBOOK live?
Can somebody send adress? there was ss5 live and ss4 in some adress?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

LIVE
https://www.facebook.com/RallyeAddictCom/videos/vb.240446805983751/1525160630845689/?type=3&theater

[dimviii]

what a split again by Tänak

impressive pace from Tanak vs Ogier at same car,same tyres,and no mechanical problems.


http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2017/post-398-0-47709800-1484921757.jpg

[Zeropt]

And then Ogier takes a chunk of time from Neuville... =)

[Oliverk]

impressive pace from Tanak vs Ogier at same car,same tyres,and no mechanical problems.

Tänak has always been better than Ogier :D Dmack only slowed Tanak to Ogiers level previous year. You heard it here first !

[EightGear]

Big push by Ogier

[Hasselhoax]

A women just fell in to the ditch after that Hyundai passed on the FB live feed. Guess these new cars scare the living hell out of Monte spectators.

[Bartek]

24:17 for Ogier, almost 1:30 faster than this morning

[er88]

Ogier going for it. Or Neuville has a little problem

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[dimviii]

if Tanak manage to make same time with Ogier,will be very close to Neuville at general positions.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville looks ok on the live feed.

[dimviii]

Big push by Ogier

we will see from Tanaks time if its a big push,or Neuville is in some kind of problem.

[userwave]

Idiots !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2ntqSiWIAEZu1o.jpg

yes, certified idiots.

[wwbroe]

No more splits for Tanak?

[EstWRC]

Tänak +11 to Ogier in final split

[satukata]

any link old facebook adress where was live yesterday?

[car]

any link old facebook adress where was live yesterday?

https://www.facebook.com/RallyeAddic...type=3&theater

[Fast Eddie WRC]

FRI 15:35 - SS7: NEUVILLE
19.6sec slower than Ogier - and Neuville blames an overly cautious approach. "The stage was okay but to be honest my pace notes had too much snow and ice. The road was cleaner that I expected. I dropped too much."

FRI 15:34 - SS7: OGIER THROUGH
His time is 21m17.8s and he looks exhausted. "It's definitely a hard job to drive with the slush now. I do what I can, but in very wet snow it is incredibly slippery and I was aquaplaning. We did what we could. We made some small adjustments in service - the car feels better."

[Livewireshock]

So Ogier is complaining that the stage was wetter than he was expecting and he was aquaplaning, Neuville said it was too dry!?!

[WUff1]

Evans split 3 onwards missing.

[dimviii]

So Ogier is complaining that the stage was wetter than he was expecting and he was aquaplaning, Neuville said it was too dry!?!

probably different parts of stage?

[EightGear]

Breen keeps surprising me.

[EstWRC]

Tänak with problems with downshifting, luckily one stage only left

[dimviii]

now top 3 crews inside 53 seconds,nice!

[car]

Evans just went past the camera on the live split and the traction out of the corner was clearly a lot worse than the other five cars I have watched. He wasn't off line and he was pointing straight, but he had nowhere near as much power on as the other cars. Maybe the tyres are that much worse...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

First stage win by Ogier for M-Sport.

[Eli]

& Camilli is off with his Fiesta R5 Evo....

[rayh_mx]

So Ogier is complaining that the stage was wetter than he was expecting and he was aquaplaning, Neuville said it was too dry!?!

Half-filled glass or glass half empty

[Eli]

& Craig is now up to 5th...with Sordo 6th in his 2017 Hyundai...let's hope Breen keeps this up 'till the rest of the weekend.

[tc10a]

Bouffier stopped too

[Fast Eddie WRC]

RI 15:42 - SS7: TANAK
Second fastest but the Estonian reports a downshifting issue. He leaves to investigate.

FRI 15:41 - SS7: LATVALA
Third quickest so far. "I'm pleased. This was the first stage today when I was focused only on the driving. No other issues. I'm really pleased with the car - it has lots of performance and a lot of potential."

FRI 15:38 - SS7: SORDO
"Really slippery everywhere. Not nice to drive. Sometimes there's grip, sometimes none. It's not easy to build the confidence when it's like this. I'm happy to be at the finish."

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen on big gains vs other wrc2 crews.

[WUff1]

Evans big time loss, definitely some problems.

[Bartek]

Bouffier stopped too

He is now moving but he is very slow, Camilli is catching him very fast

[Mintexmemory]

& Craig is now up to 5th...with Sordo 6th in his 2017 Hyundai...let's hope Breen keeps this up 'till the rest of the weekend.

...and a number of forum posters were saying he wasn't a good enough back up to a team leader. Finland was more than enough proof, he is just carrying on from last year. Mid-season in the C3 I'd expect him to be regular top 6 without any charity.

[AdvEvo]

Can we not put Evans with a WRC car into the WRC2 championship. Maybe he has some competition then.

[EightGear]

Can we not put Evans with a WRC car into the WRC2 championship. Maybe he has some competition then.
You mean DMACK?

[Mise]

These facebook (or some other paltform) cameras might be something to go to. Imagine 4 or 5 cameras during a ss. Every camera would have some sort of timing and so on.
The costs wouldn't be that big, but they could offer alot

[EstWRC]

M-Sport ‏@MSportLtd 6m6 minutes ago
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The first one-two of the season goes to the Ford Fiesta WRC! @SebOgier fastest through SS7 with @OttTanak second! #WRC #RallyeMonteCarlo

[Eli]

...and a number of forum posters were saying he wasn't a good enough back up to a team leader. Finland was more than enough proof, he is just carrying on from last year. Mid-season in the C3 I'd expect him to be regular top 6 without any charity.
Well I think he's excellent, I really hope he can keep this up throughout this season.

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[car]

These facebook (or some other paltform) cameras might be something to go to. Imagine 4 or 5 cameras during a ss. Every camera would have some sort of timing and so on.
The costs wouldn't be that big, but they could offer alot

Agree completely... this kind of coverage was mooted as 'the future' a while ago. Looks like it will naturally evolve through spectators taking it into their own hands. Could be great for the sport.

[spiderem]

No offense but that Fiesta WRC17 with the the DMack tires is really not a gift. Mikkelsen will not regress driving the skoda for 1 season, enjoying himself and winning rallyes. And next season for sure he will have a competitive 17' car.
If he was to drive the fiesta, im sure he would loose it and get more frustrated and annoyed than anything else.

[dimviii]

For now, Thierry is alone in his rally, it really rolls very well, admitted Sébastien Ogier on the microphone of Olivier Gaspard, the special envoy of the RTBF. It is a race by elimination for now, but with so little rolling with this car, it would have taken a miracle to be comfortable right away. We have small problems of trust with the car, especially at the front end, but for now, we are on the provisional podium, so we have no complaints. There are things to improve in the settings. "

[BigWorm]

At least my pickems for RC2 looks pretty good. Otherwise I'm way off

[WUff1]

No offense but that Fiesta WRC17 with the the DMack tires is really not a gift. Mikkelsen will not regress driving the skoda for 1 season, enjoying himself and winning rallyes. And next season for sure he will have a competitive 17' car.
If he was to drive the fiesta, im sure he would loose it and get more frustrated and annoyed than anything else.

He has no season contract with Skoda, it´s just a one off for now.

[car]

For now, Thierry is alone in his rally, it really rolls very well, admitted Sébastien Ogier on the microphone of Olivier Gaspard, the special envoy of the RTBF. It is a race by elimination for now, but with so little rolling with this car, it would have taken a miracle to be comfortable right away. We have small problems of trust with the car, especially at the front end, but for now, we are on the provisional podium, so we have no complaints. There are things to improve in the settings. "

Mind games... no way is this over yet.

[Francis44]

Yes..... Now blame the tyres!!!! Already last season the Dmack tyres were not bad, not on pair with Michelin but incase you forgot Tanak almost won a Rally with that rubber, it's always easy to blame the hardware.

[smsgrafica]

Yes..... Now blame the tyres!!!! Already last season the Dmack tyres were not bad, not on pair with Michelin but incase you forgot Tanak almost won a Rally with that rubber, it's always easy to blame the hardware.

Last year it was hit & miss with DMACK. Sometimes very good, some other times very bad.

[car]

Yes..... Now blame the tyres!!!! Already last season the Dmack tyres were not bad, not on pair with Michelin but incase you forgot Tanak almost won a Rally with that rubber, it's always easy to blame the hardware.

But if they are too stiff in icy conditions, there can be a massive difference. Watch the next facebook live if you can and see just how little traction he has when accelerating. It is incredible. You could visibly see Mikkelsen was faster.

[er88]

Yes..... Now blame the tyres!!!! Already last season the Dmack tyres were not bad, not on pair with Michelin but incase you forgot Tanak almost won a Rally with that rubber, it's always easy to blame the hardware.
The dmacks were good on certain gravel rallies. Nowhere else

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[RS]

Yes..... Now blame the tyres!!!! Already last season the Dmack tyres were not bad, not on pair with Michelin but incase you forgot Tanak almost won a Rally with that rubber

On gravel.. Evans is no Ogier but he's not as bad as these times show.

Re: Mikkelsen, it doesn't appear to have occurred to many that he may have preferred to wait for a Polo 17 than compete on DMack.

[dimviii]

Astier with 208 r2 clearly faster from Porsche 911 gt and Delecours 124 rgt.
just because some they were asking before the rally about their speed.

[René]

Live stage 8

https://www.facebook.com/OpticRallye-Forez-225590097494105/videos/

[danon]

Hanninen's tree

[dimviii]

WRC freak ‏@FakeHinkelstein 43m
43 minutes ago


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@Loeb_Seb1 just landed in a chopper to spectate SS7. @AMCRallyResults #wrc

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2nsdmnXcAEUYnh.jpg


Mikkelsen

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2n2XQxWIAAbHqj.jpg

[kraut]

I think it would be better for Dmack company only to provide the stickers for the car and enough money for M-Sport to let them buy Michelin-tyres.

In this case it is a totally negative publicity even if the rosd tyres are not really bad.

[wwbroe]

Again no splits for Seb?

[danon]

Close call by Ogier...

[dimviii]

https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16142833_1221671487912904_1236146133613372920_n.jp g?oh=219ebb0ccf68f94a3e7933a13e7611ab&oe=59055433

[Francis44]

Neuville stalled and engine sounds weird?! :/ .

[Mariusz]

Yes..... Now blame the tyres!!!! Already last season the Dmack tyres were not bad, not on pair with Michelin but incase you forgot Tanak almost won a Rally with that rubber, it's always easy to blame the hardware.

Check last year Monte results and hopefully you'll notice that Ott's stage times were always at the bottom of WRC cars.

[dimviii]

Neuville stalled and engine sounds weird?! :/ .

yes engine wasn't working properly,but maybe because from the stall

[EstWRC]

Tänak losing a lot because of his downshifting problem

[dimviii]

Eric Camilli ‏@EricCamilli 9m
9 minutes ago


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#RallyeMonteCarlo SS7 "Some damages at the rear of our car because in an icy corner my co-driver was a little bit late in a note"

[wwbroe]

Apparently a dif problem for Thierry

[Rally Hokkaido]

J-M half spin at the hairpin?

[BigWorm]

Yes..... Now blame the tyres!!!! Already last season the Dmack tyres were not bad, not on pair with Michelin but incase you forgot Tanak almost won a Rally with that rubber, it's always easy to blame the hardware.
DMacks tarmac tyre was really bad last season, Tänak was nowhere near winning a tarmac rally last season. The gravel tyre is better.

[itix]

The stall Neuville was talking about happened on the live feed I'm watching. Also Latvala stalled there...

[eddy707]

J-M half spin at the hairpin?

yes and it shows on splits

[Francis44]

Breen also stalls in the same hairpin.

[wwbroe]

Tanak taking time back at second split

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen lucky there.

[Rallyper]

The stall Neuville was talking about happened on the live feed I'm watching. Also Latvala stalled there...

Link?

[eddy707]

https://www.facebook.com/pg/OpticRallye-Forez-225590097494105/videos/

[dimviii]

yes engine wasn't working properly,but maybe because from the stall


Fri 16:26 - SS8: Neuville
He loses 10 seconds in the final split. What happened? "We had a problem with the engine - we lost turbo boost. I stalled the engine a hairpin and did not press the reset button. It was not working properly. We drove for about 500 metres before we reset the system."

[itix]

Link?
On phone on FB, can't link. Search for Optic'Rallye-forez

...if you have FB

Edit; see that someone else managed to link :) see above

[AL14]

These facebook (or some other paltform) cameras might be something to go to. Imagine 4 or 5 cameras during a ss. Every camera would have some sort of timing and so on.
The costs wouldn't be that big, but they could offer alot
We should build an internet app where we gather all those camera (they could give their position) in a map and users can pick their spot from the app or set up a sort of automation that will make them watch passes of the same drivers browsing automatically from the first camera to the others in the stage.

We could make them pay a little amount and divide money with people who film. We all could be rich and happy.
Maybe in 20 years Wrc plus will invent something like this.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Idiots on the road...

[Lead]

Idiots on the road...
Just yesterday.... and they never learn. Sad.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Great to see a Spectator Marshal quickly chase some spectators from a dangerous spot after that hairpin

[WRC17]

Any more near misses with spectators ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Finally a better stage for Evans.

[EstWRC]

Neuville, Ogier and Tänak just another level to others.

[spiderem]

M-Sport is the only team with all their WRC cars still running :)
Well played.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

How do these guys get a good enough signal to show this live ?

[danon]

funny tricky hairpin... another off then a stall and more to come...

[dimviii]

lol

Eric Camilli ‏@EricCamilli 5m
5 minutes ago


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#RallyeMonteCarlo SS8"I'm disappointed because we found a good pace and then, we hit in a corner because of a delay of pace note, that's it"

[dimviii]

lol 2

Stéphane Lefebvre ‏@SLefebvreRallye 13m
13 minutes ago


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#RAMC2017 SS8
11:37.1
Not a great feeling on fast roads with the front slight splitter damage but not a problem in slow sections.

[stefanvv]

M-Sport ‏@MSportLtd 6m6 minutes ago
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The first one-two of the season goes to the Ford Fiesta WRC! @SebOgier fastest through SS7 with @OttTanak second! #WRC #RallyeMonteCarlo

It's going to be helava year.

[N.O.T]

Disastrous day for citroen, still a long way to go.

Never really liked the gambling nature of this event, no conclusions can be drawn about anything.

Season starts in Mexico.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2oCA_oWEAA87qX.jpg

https://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127823/meeke-accepts-blame-for-monte-crash

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Plenty of incidents at this live hairpin.

[Mintexmemory]

Disastrous day for citroen, still a long way to go.

Never really liked the gambling nature of this event, no conclusions can be drawn about anything.

Season starts in Mexico.

You might think that, but recent history contradicts you. 8 out of the last 10 WRC editions of Monte have been won by the eventual WDC. If Neuville manages to win it throws down a pretty significant gauntlet.

[EightGear]

Meeke crash onboard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChLE1zT0I6Q

Just too quick.

[N.O.T]

the only real disappointment so far is sordo, i think his time has run out and after this year he should just disappear into nothingness. Everything else was expected.

[SubaruNorway]

On gravel.. Evans is no Ogier but he's not as bad as these times show.

Re: Mikkelsen, it doesn't appear to have occurred to many that he may have preferred to wait for a Polo 17 than compete on DMack.

DMACK also wanted him to pay for his drive, you don't ask a driver with two wins last season to pay.

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4C77_aclmk

[spiderem]

Meeke crash onboard: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChLE1zT0I6Q

Just too quick.

a bit unlucky there, he could have ran wide in the field without hitting anything and little damages only... just a matter of few cm/m

[EightGear]

a bit unlucky there, he could have ran wide in the field without hitting anything and little damages only... just a matter of few cm/m
Yes indeed, that taller part of the grass was just about to end.

[stefanvv]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4C77_aclmk

Clearly visible how bad DMack are @20s

[EstWRC]

DMACK also wanted him to pay for his drive, you don't ask a driver with two wins last season to pay.

for real?

[BigWorm]

Neuville, Ogier and Tänak just another level to others.

Pacewise - Neuville and Ogier only I think. Tänak is doing a solid job and is well faster than the rest, but Ogier's pace is on par with Neuville's. Without his mistake he would be shadowing Neuville. But then again Neuville had some trouble with the mechanical.

[dimviii]

Pacewise - Neuville and Ogier only I think. Tänak is doing a solid job and is well faster than the rest, but Ogier's pace is on par with Neuville's. Without his mistake he would be shadowing Neuville. But then again Neuville had some trouble with the mechanical.

Τanak had mechanical problems too.

[Lead]

DMACK also wanted him to pay for his drive, you don't ask a driver with two wins last season to pay.

Is this confirmed information?

[dimviii]

ss 3 & ss 6
https://youtu.be/SOBu8UxEMHg

[EightGear]

Clearly visible how bad DMack are @20s

Lol, this Michelin video only showing the DMACK car when it is hopelesly ploughing through the snow.

[Mintexmemory]

So is the start order tomorrow: Rally 2 cars followed by top 10 WRC (assuming 10 survivors which there isn't) in reverse order or top 10 classified in reverse order? Whichever, there will be little advantage either way between Neuville and Ogier.

[dimviii]

Neuville
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSoc20CVL2Y

[stefanvv]

So is the start order tomorrow: Rally 2 cars followed by top 10 WRC (assuming 10 survivors which there isn't) in reverse order or top 10 classified in reverse order? Whichever, there will be little advantage either way between Neuville and Ogier.

Rally2 are after regular.

[steve.mandzij]

What an exciting rally! Thoroughly enjoying Latvala's performance, as well as the possibility that for the first time in four years we will have a new championship leader, and a genuine title race.

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[er88]

the only real disappointment so far is sordo, i think his time has run out and after this year he should just disappear into nothingness. Everything else was expected.
Tbf his steady approach might come in handy for the manufactures championship for Hyundai. They really have to deliver one of the titles this year considering the budget they've had since they joined the wrc, and Paddon can't be trusted to finish rallies regular yet. He's not one of the quickest drivers by any stretch, but he's even worse on these changeable conditions

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[dimviii]

Hyundai Motorsport ‏@HMSGOfficial 27s
28 seconds ago


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KA: "It’s obviously been a tough day. It’s frustrating knowing we have the performance in the car, but we are not in a position to use it."


what problems had Abbring?

[Sch17]

Is there any way to follow press conference?

[EstWRC]

Pacewise - Neuville and Ogier only I think. Tänak is doing a solid job and is well faster than the rest, but Ogier's pace is on par with Neuville's. Without his mistake he would be shadowing Neuville. But then again Neuville had some trouble with the mechanical.

http://www.ewrc-results.com/leg.php?e=35143&s=122954&leg=2&t=Rallye-Automobile-de-Monte-Carlo-2017


if you take away Ogier's ditch and Tänak's downshifting problems then those 3 leading drivers were basically the same. Okay Neuville would be ahead because he had some kind of problems too in SS7

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Citroen must be gutted with their failure on this near-home event. They would have loved a win here with the new C3.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke takes blame:
https://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127823/meeke-accepts-blame-for-monte-crash

[BigWorm]

http://www.ewrc-results.com/leg.php?e=35143&s=122954&leg=2&t=Rallye-Automobile-de-Monte-Carlo-2017


if you take away Ogier's ditch and Tänak's downshifting problems then those 3 leading drivers were basically the same. Okay Neuville would be ahead because he had some kind of problems too in SS7

Oh yeah, Tänak had troubles. Still think the order would have been the same, but the time differences would be a lot less than 45 secs.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak on it..

https://twitter.com/fcalispa/status/822411170514685952

[spiderem]

somehow neuville gives the feeling that he is relax and in control, like he is not driving 110% to stay in the lead and can go faster if required. Very mature drive so far. Rally is still long though.
Same for Tanak, hope he scores a good podium to give him a confidence boost to start the season with new co pilote.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Why isnt the Press Conf on the live stream ? :(

[dimviii]

Same for Tanak, hope he scores a good podium to give him a confidence boost to start the season with new co pilote.

just remembered now, Ostberg at the start of last year,and for how many rallies had the excuse of ''new co driver''


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2oUfFYW8AEkzR3.jpg
https://scontent-bru2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16114279_959676004163817_1095062407859303281_n.jpg ?oh=cb65685351c8addefd793d925a0429ea&oe=590D61B7

[Simmi]

Today was a good day!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2oJmd9W8AADC_R.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2oJpnkXEAAzkJw.jpg

[Eli]

when is red-bull's show on?

[stefanvv]

when is red-bull's show on?

Recap: Monte-Carlo Day 1
Friday, January 20th – 10:00PM CET

[dimviii]

I was too careful. I have not dared to go faster, truly trusting the information provided by our openers. But with the changes of conditions, I lost too much time, clearly Finally, in the last special of the day, the next one, I stuck in a pin, it was a bit at low speed, when I restarted, I was deprived of power for 500 meters. : The car is still young, when it is restarted, there are some manipulations to make! Obviously, here, something had jumped, we had to rectify the shot, and it worked. It's a shame, because we're losing ten seconds! "
"This afternoon, conditions were much more difficult than in the morning," said the Monte Carlo leader. "This morning, it was quite constant, with a lot of ice and snow. There was a lot of "slush", there were big traps, and the terrain had evolved a lot since the opening of the openers. By taking risks, there was way to go fast, but I did not dare to take Kris Meeke, Hayden Paddon and Juho Hanninen, we're only three ahead of Sébastien Ogier and Ott Tanak. It's pretty tight, and I think we're all three on A big rhythm, while being pleased. "

from RTBF

[dimviii]

Andolfi crash ,lucky guy..

https://youtu.be/FYLTNTts-cM

[Kielder]

Hi all. We will leave tomorrow to spend the night at the top of Turini stage. See you at Trois Vallees!


Luckily I am working in Bremen in this week and tomorrow, allone in Hotelroom, buy some beer and enjoy :)
I am just looking the forecast for Sunday. It is likely that there will be huge snowstorm in Turini and heavy rain in lower parts. It is still too far but 15-20 cm of fresh snow overnight (Saturday/Sunday) is a possibility

As usual, your information is very appreciated. Let's see if it doesn't happen the same as in 2014... Thank you!
P.S. Any update is welcome... :)

[COD]

Recap: Monte-Carlo Day 1
Friday, January 20th – 10:00PM CET

Is it free of charge?

[steve.mandzij]

Andolfi crash ,lucky guy..

https://youtu.be/FYLTNTts-cM
Oof, that was nasty.

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[stefanvv]

Is it free of charge?

yeah - https://www.redbull.tv/tv

[dimviii]

Citroen must be gutted with their failure on this near-home event. They would have loved a win here with the new C3.

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2017/post-3985-0-15939800-1484909919.jpg

[dimviii]

amazing spot from ss2 at night
https://youtu.be/KtuGNe-f6Sc

[WUff1]

Andolfi crash ,lucky guy..

https://youtu.be/FYLTNTts-cM

Very lucky!

[dimviii]

at these conditions,simply you cant have conclusions at how far or near are the new cars
https://youtu.be/kxvbAvosr4M

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEkxuiMxFyU

[Sulland]

Andolfi crash ,lucky guy..

https://youtu.be/FYLTNTts-cM

Is he ok after the hit?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2017/post-3985-0-15939800-1484909919.jpg

Already regretting his 2017 line-up...

[danon]

Rally Monte-Carlo, Day 2 morning loop. Snow, ice, tricky - but fun - https://www.facebook.com/TOYOTAGAZOORacingWRC/videos/307980362937489/

https://scontent.fsof2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16002735_1828651814076860_5386411892803985938_n.jp g?oh=a3aa5eedc730bd5bd26883cc891a5079&oe=591FEB39

[Allyc85]

Meeke on stage 3, gutted to hear he crashed on 4.

https://twitter.com/AlastairCummins/status/822505611715809280

And Sordo on 6.

https://twitter.com/AlastairCummins/status/822472525229813760

Great day watching the cars slide around in the snow/slush! Tanak and one of the R3 Clio's was epic around the long right hander on 6!

Shame that even after last night's tragedy there was still many brain dead spectators, and the police are beyond useless at crowd/parking control.

[danon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LTbzz6eL_U&feature=youtu.be

[itix]

Shame that even after last night's tragedy there was still many brain dead spectators, and the police are beyond useless at crowd/parking control.

This has been extremely obvious all event :(

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/4tG28IVLXmw

[danon]

https://scontent.fsof2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16195639_1828693070739401_1640244361426380607_n.jp g?oh=382f53f178c0491e20d4efcd96ecfce7&oe=5918311C

[Rallyper]

Disastrous day for citroen, still a long way to go.

Never really liked the gambling nature of this event, no conclusions can be drawn about anything.

Season starts in Mexico.

No, wrong. Season starts in Sweden. If you can´t match snow and ice you´re nothing as a rallydriver.

[dimviii]

lol 3

Eric Camilli ‏@EricCamilli 2m
2 minutes ago


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Whew... impressive conditions on this Monte Carlo!
Good fight today, in WRC 2 against the Skodas
This is race and tomorrow, we will turn up


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLfMP3Ji83I

[EstWRC]

https://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127825

[dimviii]

The unfortunate circumstances that occurred yesterday, the first day of the Rally of Monte Carlo, where a person has died, unfortunately has been an Asturian, Jesus Ordonez Fernandez, of San Miguel de la Barreda (Siero), a great fan of Car racing and a magnificent photographer.
Jesus, present in most of the races held in Asturias and abroad, has been a regular participant in the Photography Contest of Infomotor for many years, winning the XVII edition, even in the 2016 edition that still has not delivered the trophies . From this means of communication we want to make to his family our feeling of pain and of pain by this loss, that surely will be the one of all the fans to the sporting motor sport Asturian.

http://infomotor.es/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/jesus-ordoñez-640x300.jpg

http://infomotor.es/el-fotografo-asturiano-jesus-ordonez-fallece-en-el-rallye-de-monte-carlo/

[dimviii]

https://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127825

copy it please,i ve more than 15 views this month.

[EstWRC]

WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP
M-Sport Ford WRC squad won't give Ogier and Tanak team orders
By David Evans
@davidevansrally
Published on Friday January 20th 2017

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Sebastien Ogier and his M-Sport team-mate Ott Tanak will be allowed to fight to the finish of the Monte Carlo Rally, according to team principal Malcolm Wilson.

Ogier and Tanak ended the rally's first full day split by just three tenths of a second in second and third places.

Reigning World Rally champion Ogier gained considerably on Tanak on Friday's final stages as he recovered from a morning error, but there had been little to choose between their pace for much of the day.

Wilson insisted he wanted the scrap to continue and would not ask either to back off.


"That's why we're here and that's why the fans are here," he said.

"We want to see the fight. We want to see them both out there fighting on the limit.

"There's a long way to go in some very tricky conditions, but yes they are both free to battle it out."

The Ford Fiesta WRC pair are 45s behind leader Thierry Neuville, but despite that gap Ogier admits he has not given up a fourth straight Monte win.

"Nothing is impossible, especially with the [potential for different] tyre choices tomorrow," he said.

"A gap of 45s - even if it's Monte Carlo - it's better to have this than be behind.

"I will focus on myself and try to drive well and get comfortable in the car.

"At the end of the day I would be happy to be in Monte Carlo with a podium and I don't want risk it all for victory.

"Monte is special and, especially for all the guys here, I want to give my best."



Tanak plans to try to ignore Ogier's times and focus on his own pace.

"He's close to home, so maybe he knows some tricks here," said the Estonian.

"The plan is still not to get in the fight. I want to carry on with the speed we have.

"Seb was really fast this afternoon and I was nowhere close to him.

"I'll let these two guys [Neuville and Ogier] fight and let's see how it goes."

Leader Neuville said he felt relatively comfortable with his advantage.

"I wouldn't say I'm confident, but I am a bit more comfortable," he said.

"I feel good in the car and we have had good feedback and everything has worked well so far.

"I have a 45s lead, which is a lot, but also not much on this rally.

"It will be a tough fight tomorrow, but let's see who has upper hand in the evening."

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/_AK55PX5UY4

[A FONDO]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLfMP3Ji83I

Is this OUHLA LUI also on the scene? :D and the guys running to help drunk A.F. probably from his company :D :D :D

[dimviii]

big respect for Neuville. Watch his driving at this video,extra fast,perfect lines,not errors or corrections.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjkbqvQ7CsI

[BigWorm]

Andolfi crash ,lucky guy..

https://youtu.be/FYLTNTts-cM

Same tree as Hänninen?

[danon]

https://scontent.fsof2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16114896_1828531040755604_1507087536315708139_n.jp g?oh=65f4a6fc159d925fdcb353aefdc938ab&oe=59242D3A

[Morte66]

I come home from a crappy day at work, I check to see how my man Meeke is doing, and... woe is me.

And my back-up guy Paddon is out last night in very sad circumstances.

Time to hit the bottle.

p.s. thanks for all the video links guys

[dimviii]

Same tree as Hänninen?

yes same one mate.
an other video.
https://youtu.be/ozzqavDgrps

[EstWRC]

In Estonian press Tänak is also saying he won't go to fight with ogier and he didn't give everything today. He is surprised that everything is going so well

[dimviii]

Evans spin inside
https://youtu.be/UALn5SZVvHI

[macebig]

Come on Mr Wilson.Ogier is the clear No1 for the team.There will surely be team orders in favour of him, if needed.

[rayh_mx]

Time to hit the bottle.
Cheers!!!! :beer:

[kirungi okwogera]

is this ouhla lui also on the scene? :d and the guys running to help drunk a.f. Probably from his company :d :d :d

"sanglier!!!"

[dimviii]

Hyundai video
https://youtu.be/X9CZe1YhGxA

[dimviii]

onboard Hanninens crash with tree
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9fDE1mI9Qk

[dimviii]

Hanninen a little bit faster than optimum
https://youtu.be/GIcDoAvSjiE

[danon]

Evans spin inside
https://youtu.be/UALn5SZVvHI

not enough speed... my grandma has bigger balls than Evans

[OHL]

Hanninen a little bit faster than optimum
https://youtu.be/GIcDoAvSjiE

Awesome! I don't recall who it was that said that the new cars were going to be boring, but driving like that is definitely not.

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2017/post-3985-0-20316200-1484942769.png

[SubaruNorway]

Hanninen a little bit faster than optimum
https://youtu.be/GIcDoAvSjiE

Same corner as Meeke last year isen't it?

[Barreis]

copy it please,i ve more than 15 views this month.

clear the cookies/cash/history or change from mozilla to chrome or explorer or simply register. that way it's more then 50 views for me

[SubaruNorway]

Is this confirmed information?

Yes

[danon]

Another nice rally day behind us - Jari-Matti fourth overall! Tomorrow, on Saturday, we will start with two cars again, as Juho will re-start the rally after todays off. See our wrap-up of the day! https://www.facebook.com/TOYOTAGAZOORacingWRC/videos/308078292927696/

[Bartek]

In Estonian press Tänak is also saying he won't go to fight with ogier and he didn't give everything today. He is surprised that everything is going so well

After watching his onboard from SS3 I'm surprised that he is still in a rally :) :)

[dimviii]

Same corner as Meeke last year isen't it?


yeap!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2pBcamWQAEGikF.jpg

[EstWRC]

Well he himself admitted that moment after the stage but that was it Bartek

[maciotacio]

What happend ? Any video of that moment?

[danon]

https://scontent.fsof2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/16143502_1384016381686296_8543529293818678867_o.jp g?oh=08de4440a33fc9a1173aec5b12d3bfc9&oe=5907D549

https://scontent.fsof2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/16178695_1384016328352968_1498007662554524456_o.jp g?oh=6032de347c3f2ab49575468669f9dab5&oe=5904E43B

[steve.mandzij]

Ready for Red Bull summary! Hope it's good.

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[rayh_mx]

Another nice rally day behind us - Jari-Matti fourth overall! Tomorrow, on Saturday, we will start with two cars again, as Juho will re-start the rally after todays off. See our wrap-up of the day! https://www.facebook.com/TOYOTAGAZOORacingWRC/videos/308078292927696/

Will Meeke re start too?

[jparker]

at these conditions,simply you cant have conclusions at how far or near are the new cars
https://youtu.be/kxvbAvosr4M

Nonsense. There were many indicatons that all cars are up to the job.

[dimviii]

nice video from Riviera rally
https://youtu.be/dLCn8Dq_OYc

[Andre Oliveira]

eWRC-results video from day 1/2, by Anthony Delahayes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_mG1GfIfiE

[dimviii]

Nonsense. There were many indicatons that all cars are up to the job.

No.

[hype]

https://abload.de/img/wrc-rally-monte-carlo1lohc.jpg
https://abload.de/img/wrc-rally-monte-carlo4eq9u.jpg
https://abload.de/img/wrc-rally-monte-carlozmq5t.jpg
https://abload.de/img/wrc-rally-monte-carlohirvx.jpg

[Barreis]

did it start at redbull tv? nothing here

[Andre Oliveira]

Red Bull TV on air

[Francis44]

did it start at redbull tv? nothing here

Yes they just showed an interview with Ogier.

[danon]

Will Meeke re start too?

Meeke will return to the action on Saturday, using the event's final two days as an opportunity to gather more data on Citroen's all-new C3 WRC. https://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127823/meeke-accepts-blame-for-monte-crash

[EstWRC]

nice video from Riviera rally
https://youtu.be/dLCn8Dq_OYc

This is how videos should've done!

[Andre Oliveira]

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16114237_1602952779734143_3090742236073248237_n.jp g?oh=f91482f7653f915cce125a9bf289d46b&oe=5914B96E
https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16195120_1602952783067476_4122167283266898765_n.jp g?oh=7669dca4abbd5119f16c2550fd9c7485&oe=5911C987
https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15977883_1602952813067473_3814079461334474137_n.jp g?oh=518e49fbdf7bfbd827fb41403f399835&oe=5915F8F6

[Lead]

Yes
Ok then, I can relax...

[steve.mandzij]

Impressed with RB TV coverage. Hope they keep it up!

Question, who is the guy that commentates the stages (that's been around forever) and who is the one that says the standings? Are any of them the infamous John Desborough?

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[N.O.T]

Nonsense. There were many indicatons that all cars are up to the job.

are you like that in real life as well ?

[stefanvv]

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16114237_1602952779734143_3090742236073248237_n.jp g?oh=f91482f7653f915cce125a9bf289d46b&oe=5914B96E


Poor Evans.

[dimviii]

Tanak and Breen flat out
https://youtu.be/zAKNMQI2kQE

[dimviii]

Latvala all over the place
https://youtu.be/lF7_U0QmDck

[dimviii]

Poor Evans.

why poor?

[A FONDO]

eWRC-results video from day 1/2, by Anthony Delahayes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_mG1GfIfiE

Really good stuff but I know he could have added some more strong passes from some of the places.

[Eli]

Impressed with RB TV coverage. Hope they keep it up!

Question, who is the guy that commentates the stages (that's been around forever) and who is the one that says the standings? Are any of them the infamous John Desborough?

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The first guy is Paul King & the second is the infamous John Desborough with the annoying man from dungannon

[danon]

Crashs & Mistakes Wrc Rallye Monté Carlo 2017 Breen Andolfi ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AK55PX5UY4&feature=youtu.be

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.facebook.com/www.jree.ee

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16143009_1403105726388061_3593257817921856104_n.jp g?oh=297391b010017fa7e109b225835969f2&oe=58D8BEB9

[steve.mandzij]

The first guy is Paul King & the second is the infamous John Desborough with the annoying man from dungannon
Oh, thanks. I've always liked Paul King's voiceovers.

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[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/lJ9tf8ugKqA

[car]

Hayden Paddon statement:

https://www.facebook.com/haydenpaddonwrc/photos/a.186311901404607.35647.184390891596708/1195359400499847/?type=3&theater

Totally agree that this incident is used to make sure spectator safety is improved and educated so the chances of this happening again are reduced as far as is possible.

[A FONDO]

https://youtu.be/lJ9tf8ugKqA

Don't close the clip after Meeke's pictures - there's heavy brakings over mixed surface. Brought me shivers behind the pc, imagine what it was live.

[BigWorm]

In Estonian press Tänak is also saying he won't go to fight with ogier and he didn't give everything today. He is surprised that everything is going so well

He has serious pace, that's why he's doing so well. I think it's mature of him to just focus on himself, the season is young and but a podium here will be a nice start. Don't risk that.

[A FONDO]

CZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz5v7oF5d8Q short but with some must-see moments

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Much better without the mega-annoying Desborough on the commentary on the normal WRC coverage & MotorsTV. :)

Just need to get rid of him from the live tv stages now !

[COD]

Red bull tv program ok, but too focused on the few top drivers. Why not make it longer and add wrc2 etc.

But the thing I did not understand, is what a rally expert Mark Webber is supposed to be?

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/5liSQYUdtLY

[chris_bakelas]

https://youtu.be/2ZkQII5ZB2I
Nice passes

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[SubaruNorway]

Would have been nice if they made some different onboard and other sections with drivers on RedBull since it's exactly the same apart from the bits in between, but no time for it i guess.

[USER47]

Red bull tv program ok, but too focused on the few top drivers...
I am watching it now and some of the commentary is a bit awkward, as if the commentator can't decide between simple recapitulation of events and pretend "live" commentary. There are day 2 highlights cut together, and he talk over the footage like "at the beginning of the day, Meeke was doing well, blah blah blah, and as you can see, he is quick, OH NO, HE IS DRIFTING AND CRASHING, this could be end for him!"

I mean wtf, everyone knows it's just a prerecorded footage commented on afterwards, the guy doesn't have to pretend what a suprise for him it was seeing the crash.:-o

[denkimi]

Never really liked the gambling nature of this event, no conclusions can be drawn about anything.

Season starts in Mexico.

No, wrong. Season starts in Sweden. If you can´t match snow and ice you´re nothing as a rallydriver.
its always the same bullshit. in monte its the conditions, in sweden its the snow, mexico the high altitude, finland the jumps, ...

if you want to become champion, the season starts in monte.

[Barreis]

strange to see Mark Webber talking about WRC :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Red Bull should've made their own programme showing some different sections and own commentary rather than the standard one. Just some before and after chat doesnt cut it.

[N.O.T]

its always the same bullshit. in monte its the conditions, in sweden its the snow, mexico the high altitude, finland the jumps, ...

if you want to become champion, the season starts in monte.

Its not about who is going to be champion, its about to see which car performs better and who of the drivers is the fastest or how they evolve.

In monte the situation is shit, its either who picks the proper tyres or who is brave/stupid enough to push on icy sections

[N.O.T]

strange to see Mark Webber talking about WRC :D

Women can have opinions too about motorsport, its just that nobody cares what they think.

[GravelBen]

Women can have opinions too about motorsport, its just that nobody cares what they think.

I didn't know you were a woman.

[N.O.T]

I didn't know you were a woman.

i am not kid, thats why you reply, you care.

[janvanvurpa]

i am not kid, thats why you reply, you care.

You aren't ???!!!:crazy:
Then what explains the P-PMS:uhoh: ?
(that's permanent PMS)

[janvanvurpa]

Why isnt the Press Conf on the live stream ? :(

Cause the poor guy is dead

[steve.mandzij]

I am watching it now and some of the commentary is a bit awkward, as if the commentator can't decide between simple recapitulation of events and pretend "live" commentary. There are day 2 highlights cut together, and he talk over the footage like "at the beginning of the day, Meeke was doing well, blah blah blah, and as you can see, he is quick, OH NO, HE IS DRIFTING AND CRASHING, this could be end for him!"

I mean wtf, everyone knows it's just a prerecorded footage commented on afterwards, the guy doesn't have to pretend what a suprise for him it was seeing the crash.:-o
Pretty sure it's always been like that. Search any 2009ish crash on YT and it'll be just the same. I personally like it.

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[the sniper]

Pretty sure it's always been like that. Search any 2009ish crash on YT and it'll be just the same. I personally like it.

Yeah I can see why people wouldn't like it, but I think it works. I've always preferred Paul King's well done faux surprise to John Desborough awkwardly setting you up for an incident. That might just be because I prefer Paul King full stop though...

I really like the voice and style of the guy who last year did the voiceovers for review videos on Elfyn Evans You Tube channel (which somewhat ridiculously had more coverage than the official BRC channel...): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pHizFzDiXg IIRC this guy was the BBC's Rally commentator in the late 90's, though I don't know his name unfortunately.

Anyway, I'm going off topic...

Aside from the tragic incident on Thursday obviously, the rally has been great so far. I don't know how I could follow a rally without this thread/forum, so thanks all!

[fegh]

My first Monte ... really amazing, a dream coming true.

Very sad for the death of a rally fan and independently from the circumstances of this tragic accident, we need really as fans to help the organisers ensure the security, I've seen very stupid things.

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[RAS007]

I am watching it now and some of the commentary is a bit awkward, as if the commentator can't decide between simple recapitulation of events and pretend "live" commentary. There are day 2 highlights cut together, and he talk over the footage like "at the beginning of the day, Meeke was doing well, blah blah blah, and as you can see, he is quick, OH NO, HE IS DRIFTING AND CRASHING, this could be end for him!"

I mean wtf, everyone knows it's just a prerecorded footage commented on afterwards, the guy doesn't have to pretend what a suprise for him it was seeing the crash.:-o

This problem is not new, but it is nonetheless a cancer that needs to be removed. It started with Paul "PK" King, doing excruciating "live" commentary over pre-recorded footage, much as you describe. At best it is embarrassing, at worst, it is, well, just total shit. In my opinion, it stems from having commentators who have no real knowledge or understanding of the sport, who lack a basic grasp of when, where and how rallies are won and lost, and are therefore unable to recognize the patterns or rhythms of each event, instead just talking shite about "Oh no! He's drifting!". It's really tragic stuff.

[Duvel]

I liked the redbuul show, yes a bit to much focus on the top drivers thats true.
But last year they had the rights to do something whit wrc, then we saw nothing. Now this is very good for starters i think.
Also, Webber was anounced as comantator, wilson was expert. I find it good they let someone like Webber get a taste of WRC, think he is really in to rallying after this weekend.

[rage82]

We are at around 2 km from the start of ss9, the road is absolutely dry, the temperature is around 3°. Looking forward to this beautiful day for rallying, personally I think that Ogier can take some time out of Neuville. Let's hope that Tanak can keep his pace too and set some decent times through the stages.

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[wwbroe]

Ready for another day of fascinating rally. Let's see if Ford guys can be a danger for Neuville. I am hoping he can keep it together, would be such a great start of his season.;)

[wwbroe]

Somebody knows what tires the different cars are on?

[trifonvl]

Citroën/Neuville/M-Sport: 4 Michelin Pilot Alpin A4L/R1 studded + 2 Michelin Pilot Sport Super Soft 5

[trifonvl]

Sordo: 4 Michelin Pilot Alpin Studded + 1 Pilot Alpin non studded Breen: 5 Studded Toyota: 4 Studded + 2 non studded

[wwbroe]

Ten minutes delay for the start of first stage

[dimviii]

Somebody knows what tires the different cars are on?


Michelin Motorsport ‏@Michelin_Sport 3m
3 minutes ago


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#Tyre info 2/2
Sordo: 4 Michelin Pilot Alpin Studded + 1 Pilot Alpin non studded
Breen: 5 Studded
Toyota: 4 Studded + 2 non studded #wrc

#Tyre info: 1/2 Citroën/Neuville/M-Sport: 4 Michelin Pilot Alpin A4L/R1 studded + 2 Michelin Pilot Sport Super Soft 5 (SS5)
#WRC

[wwbroe]

Rest on 4 studded and 2 super softs, that is Fords and Neuville

[dupanton]

Ready for day 3, I really hope Neuville can keep it together!
Some interesting tyre choices, Sordo, breen and the Toyota's only with winter tyres.

[N.O.T]

any info on the stages today ?

[wwbroe]

any info on the stages today ?

Some friends of me are near the end and there is a lot of ice