Rally Wrc Monte Carlo 2017

[steve.mandzij]

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Red Bull TV blurring out DMack car in their teaser trailer... Great way to post for the first time on this forum :)

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[macebig]

Why the F would they do that?They wanted money from DMack and didn't go it?Simply Ridiculous...

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/rallye_automobile_de_monte_carlo_2017/hus_dsc_5077-m.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2017/photos/rallye_automobile_de_monte_carlo_2017/hus_dsc_5104-m.jpg


http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=35143&fotograf=107

[spiderem]

the air extractor at the back of the fiesta is massive and protruding quite a lot... I wonder how much it will stay intact on gravel rally. Or even tarmac rally with big cuts.
Anyway good to have a new season starting with quite a few unknown subjects, it makes it the most interesting one in ages! Look forward to this season and hope to see great battle. May the best driver & copilot win...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Depart live: http://www.monacochannel.mc/Le-Direct

[EstWRC]

2 hours left guys!!!

[cosmin_sb]

Have you read all the 750 posts?
of course but not all the posts today :D

[spiderem]

Depart live: http://www.monacochannel.mc/Le-Direct

Thanks for sharing. Good live. Wish i couldn't understand french so i wouldn't have to cope with the little knowledge displayed by the commentators...

[spyros]

Ogier will benefit from starting order,1st on the road is the best position for this rally,so i predict him to win this 2 first stages.Cant wait.

[lnvs]

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Red Bull TV blurring out DMack car in their teaser trailer... Great way to post for the first time on this forum :)

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I would say that is Kubica/Lotos car from 2015. So it's a Pirelli car.

First post too. Well I didn't remember my +5 years old password and recovery doesn't work.

[dimviii]

Michelin Motorsport ‏@Michelin_Sport 2m
2 minutes ago

1988 Monte Carlo winner Bruno Saby is driving the event's "0" car this year #RallyeMonteCarlo #WRC


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[gorganl2000]

Michelin Motorsport ‏@Michelin_Sport 2m
2 minutes ago

1988 Monte Carlo winner Bruno Saby is driving the event's "0" car this year #RallyeMonteCarlo #WRC


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in that picture he somehow reminds me of loeb

[janvanvurpa]

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Red Bull TV blurring out DMack car in their teaser trailer... Great way to post for the first time on this forum :)

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What stupid morons they must have making decisions.. Idiots..Specifically short sighted.. Glad I never even thought of drinking their sh!t.

[EstWRC]

https://twitter.com/rallytravel/status/822133133952905218

[Allyc85]

Gutted to see a 2km spectator exclusion zone south of Savournon on stage 10/12, had been looking forward to seeing the cars flat out through there..

[dimviii]

small clip with cars at tyre fitting zone
https://twitter.com/Michelin_Sport

[Negaiss]

Micro crystall ball for first 2 stages: Ogier leads by 25 seconds; Tanak out, Meeke out. Latvala second; Neuville third.

[hype]

Where can I find the official maps as PDF?

Do you guys think it's possible to go into the canyon at Saint-Disdier on Agnières-en-Dévoluy - Le Motty ? Or do they lock spectators out?

[er88]

Here's an ultra quick run through of the recce of SS1 in the daylight. Looks bone dry for 95% of the stage except a few random corners in the shade, and a tricky little section towards the end.


https://youtu.be/o2olYp1lS38

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[tomhlord]

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Red Bull TV blurring out DMack car in their teaser trailer... Great way to post for the first time on this forum :)

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That's Kubica's old car.

[Googol]

Where can I find the official maps as PDF?

http://acm.mc/en/edition/rallye-monte-carlo-edition-2017/itineraries/

[dupanton]

In the pick'ems, Ogier is the clear favorite.
More can be found here: http://wrcpickem.weebly.com/

[kirungi okwogera]

Watching the live depart, the Fiat 124 R-GT #27 looks brilliant. If only GT was a serious competition class.

[nafpaktos]

Michelin Motorsport ‏@Michelin_Sport 2m
2 minutes ago

1988 Monte Carlo winner Bruno Saby is driving the event's "0" car this year #RallyeMonteCarlo #WRC


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2jOOWwXEAQi43d.jpg

also last year

[jparker]

Here's an ultra quick run through of the recce of SS1 in the daylight. Looks bone dry for 95% of the stage except a few random corners in the shade, and a tricky little section towards the end.


https://youtu.be/o2olYp1lS38


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Finally. God bless you.

[SubaruNorway]

Here's an ultra quick run through of the recce of SS1 in the daylight. Looks bone dry for 95% of the stage except a few random corners in the shade, and a tricky little section towards the end.


https://youtu.be/o2olYp1lS38

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A lot of the shakedown video's and other things re uploaded on that channel, could a few more of you send claims so it will get closed please. Already sent on two of mine.

[Rallyper]

Here's an ultra quick run through of the recce of SS1 in the daylight. Looks bone dry for 95% of the stage except a few random corners in the shade, and a tricky little section towards the end.


https://youtu.be/o2olYp1lS38

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Big risks for spectators throwing snow out on the stage in many places?

[nafpaktos]

#Tyre info 1/2
Ogier: 4 Michelin Pilot Sport Super Soft 5 (SS5) + 1 Soft (S5)
Tanak/Breen/Neuville/Paddon: 5 SS5
Meeke: 3SS5 +3S5

[er88]

A lot of the shakedown video's and other things re uploaded on that channel, could a few more of you send claims so it will get closed please. Already sent on two of mine.
Sorry didn't realise there was something wrong with this channel. Just found the recce vid interesting as many wanted to know the conditions

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[KKS]

Any Live streams link?

[stefanvv]

This was posted earlier - http://www.rtbf.be/auvio/direct_actu-wrc?lid=80751#category=0

[nafpaktos]

#Tyre info 2/2
Lefebvre/Hanninen: 6 Michelin Pilot Sport Super Soft 5 (SS5)
Latvala: 4S5 + 2SS5
Sordo: 5S5

[HaCo]

Can we watch the stage live tonight?

Trilled!

[er88]

Ogier gone aggressive with the tyres it seems

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[mm1]

can we watch the stage live tonight?

Trilled!

wrc+

[A FONDO]

Any Live streams link?

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[Negaiss]

wrc+. 5 euros a month. That includes Monte and Sweden. Thats 2,5 eur a rally. Not that expencive. Thats what i did. Now eager to watch. Starts in 20 min. Go go go gooooo !

[maciotacio]

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Red Bull TV blurring out DMack car in their teaser trailer...


What an amateurs. Simply pathethic. Isn't be just simpler to skip Kubica at this teaser, as they did without a single word in 2015 when he smashed everybody else in SS10.

[pete c]

Ok, its 4.43am, 23c, time for 2017 WRC to begin
Winter rallying at its best
Looking forward to the live coverage and banter from all on here

Cheers Pete

[RS]

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[Franky]

What an amateurs. Simply pathethic. Isn't be just simpler to skip Kubica at this teaser, as they did without a single word in 2015 when he smashed everybody else in SS10.

No, they aren't amateurs. An amateur would had not used the shot, if he/she didn't like it. They had to pixelate and track it!

But yeah, it's really odd. It's not like the car had massive Monster stickers on it

[KKS]

This was posted earlier - http://www.rtbf.be/auvio/direct_actu-wrc?lid=80751#category=0


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tnx a lot

[EightGear]

Stream is live....


....with Jon Desborough.

[wwbroe]

I am looking at RTBF stream, it is french speaking comentator.:D

[GeoFerg_Sco]

It is live on BT sport1 in the uk

[EstWRC]

man im excited as hell

[KKS]

Stream is live....


....with Jon Desborough.
tnx....I continue watch a spanish one :D

[kirungi okwogera]

any other link than the belgian one? can't get it to work

[EightGear]

First WRC+ fail of the year:

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads9/58810f8ac306e/58810f8abf885-wrc%2B.png

[er88]

Here we go guys

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[car]

man im excited as hell

Same here... more so than in many years.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Here we go ! :D

[HaCo]

I am looking at RTBF stream, it is french speaking comentator.:D

Un grand merci bro! :D

[EightGear]

Ogier 2.1 quicker than Neuville on first split.

[HaCo]

Finally, a Toyota back on the stages!!!!

[car]

Julian porter basically told John Desbrough to shut the F up whilst Neville left the line... more of that please!

The new cars look proper quick too.

[RS]

Good first split by Latvala.

[dodge33cymru]

Just shut up John, we can see what's happening, this isn't radio...

Wish they'd add a way to mute the commentary...

Still, great footage, proper stage to start the year.

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[Mintexmemory]

Increased lead on second split - get used to it guys, the story of the season in the first 10 minutes!

[EightGear]

Tanak quickest on first split!

[dodge33cymru]

Footage of cars whilst interviews are given, good sign.

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[HaCo]

Tanak!!!

[EightGear]

Neuville quicker.

[HaCo]

Increased lead on second split - get used to it guys, the story of the season in the first 10 minutes!

Wrong! TN is faster at the end :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I thought Neuville looked quick...

[BigWorm]

Well in Thierry

[kirungi okwogera]

Neuville faster than Ogier, regains nearly 4 sec on final split!

[6789]

Tanak makes a nice start, lets see if he can keep it up

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ouch Paddon !!

[er88]

Have it

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[Negaiss]

paddon of

[pantealex]

Ogier was leading this rally less than 2 minutes...

[car]

Paddon rolled

[HaCo]

Ai... stage canceled I guess :(

[gorganl2000]

looking good so far...Neuville really turned it up in the last section

[nafpaktos]

PADDON out

[Mintexmemory]

Neuville faster than Ogier, regains nearly 4 sec on final split!

Lets see, more likely an Ogier error than Neuville speed!

[Negaiss]

car blocks the road

[BigWorm]

That would be a red flag I guess

[er88]

Paddon game over

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[RS]

Stage will be stopped surely?

[HaCo]

First scratch for TN ;-)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

This is gonna mess up the stage now .. :(

[Rallyper]

Why don´t they just tip the car back?

[car]

Has he hit someone?

[er88]

Just push the car to the side

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[A FONDO]

Footage is very well made this time, at every aspect! Shame it ended so quickly.

[HaCo]

Breen +7,0

[BigWorm]

Why don´t they just tip the car back?

No idea, but maybe the car is blocked by something.

[MrJan]

Is there someone lying on the floor there?!

[steve.mandzij]

Noo! Paddon!

Also, one observation: the i20 looked massively quicker off the line than the Yaris.

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[kirungi okwogera]

It looked like a narrow and awkward angle for turning over Paddon's car, but maybe... bad luck Hayden, disappointing!

[jparker]

stage stopped, that's it.

[maciotacio]

stage stopped

[HaCo]

On the replaty someone looks on the ground :(

[EightGear]

Spectator hit...

[kirungi okwogera]

Why aren't they on the live cam of the car blocking the road?

[RS]

Footage is very well made this time, at every aspect! Shame it ended so quickly.

Yep, only small criticisms I would make is that heli footage is fairly useless in the dark, and they didn't give us any split times.

[er88]

Why aren't they on the live cam of the car blocking the road?
Spectator possibly hit

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[kirungi okwogera]

Spectator hit...

What on earth was a spectator doing there...

[EstWRC]

sordo said spectator was hit and very badly

[6789]

Hope everyone is ok

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS1 cancelled.

[EightGear]

Stage cancelled.

[WUff1]

oh no, what a bad season start

[HaCo]

On the onboard footage you can see him lying on the ground, not good :( :( :(

[macebig]

Hope the guy is Ok.

[SubaruNorway]

Someone fell from the mountain in the background, not hit by the car i think unless he was in the dark spot

[Negaiss]

It looked like paddon hit rock wall. Hope there was nobody between ..

[Francis44]

Hope everyone is safe :(. I am watching a low quality stream but it didn't look like he hit anyone.

[jparker]

if spectator has been hit, that has nothing to do with Paddon's roll. I didn't see any spectators on the TV.

[BigWorm]

Wow, that's horrible to hear if true. Is it confirmed? Hope the spectator is okay if so.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Always a good chance of an off ... bad to start the season with this.

[MrJan]

Someone fell from the mountain in the background, not hit by the car i think unless he was in the dark spot

No wonder they stopped showing the replay. Didn't spot that but did look like someone on the ground after the crash. Hope they're okay.

[HaCo]

You can see it on the replay of the RTBF, he hit a spectator. He is sitting on ground level when hit.

[EstWRC]

what an horrible start for the season, how did he hit him i dont get it?

[HaCo]

Just go here and rewind until the crash: https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_wrc-monte-carlo-le-fil-info-live-video-a-20h?id=9506790

[car]

Yeah, Subaru Norway is correct.... Paddon hits the wall and a spectator falls down after he hit it. No contact with car, but could be a nasty fall.

[Negaiss]

Definetly. Replay is not shown. Something bad happening. :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ok so its a challenge to the drivers, but is it clever to start a rally season on a narrow road in the dark...

One mistake and its ruined.

[RS]

I hope the spectator is ok but it seems unlikely.

Very bad start to the season.

[EightGear]

Just go here and rewind until the crash: https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_wrc-monte-carlo-le-fil-info-live-video-a-20h?id=9506790

Doesn't work outside Belgium I think.

[MartijnS]

https://youtu.be/GtvMUszcw24

[dupanton]

Yeah, Subaru Norway is correct.... Paddon hits the wall and a spectator falls down after he hit it. No contact with car, but could be a nasty fall.

Don't think so. You see the guy being launched high up in the air against the rocks and faling down again...

[dodge33cymru]

Ok so its a challenge to the drivers, but is it clever to start a rally season on a narrow road in the dark...

One mistake and its ruined.
Better than a Super Special. I'd rather watch one car through here than 20 doing an SSS.

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[MartijnS]

Falling down..

[kure91]

0:28 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=28&v=VQJ1bVgDaJk guy falling down the rock

[car]

Wrong... spectator fell down hill afterwards

[omer yetis]

unfortunately, there is a very bad contact.....

[HaCo]

I cannot replay it anymore.

Here is a picture: black spot behind the car.
https://twitter.com/EricDupain

[Mintexmemory]

Ok so its a challenge to the drivers, but is it clever to start a rally season on a narrow road in the dark...

One mistake and its ruined.

Are you saying there should be no night rallying? In my view it's immaterial whether it's the first or last stage. It's either acceptable or not. It is acceptable imvho.

[Bartek]

I hope he is okay, very bad crash

[Googol]

Are you saying there should be no night rallying? In my view it's immaterial whether it's the first or last stage. It's either acceptable or not. It is acceptable imvho.

Only 8-16 on wide roads. :)

[prodim]

Unfortunately there was a spectator sitting there...
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170119/8bced22f30e8b04d8fe6b0969b7dc7d3.jpg

[Francis44]

I guess with the scare the spectator lost his feet and fell down, It didn't look like a such a big fall but it seems it was head first.

[HaCo]

0:28 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=28&v=VQJ1bVgDaJk guy falling down the rock

0:54 he is sitting on the floor.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Better than a Super Special. I'd rather watch one car through here than 20 doing an SSS.

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I dont want a SSS either, just a normal stage in the light like the SD was.

[car]

Don't think so. You see the guy being launched high up in the air against the rocks and faling down again...

Oh shit... you're correct. Fingers crossed

[EightGear]

Damn....

[MrJan]

0:28 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=28&v=VQJ1bVgDaJk guy falling down the rock

Looks to me like he may have actually hit him with the rear of the car as it goes out of shot. At about 0.25 I think you can see the guy being thrown up the bank. Horrible, horrible accident.

[AL14]

It doesn't seem nothing serious for the spectator. What concern me is the lack of news updates but that could be because they don't now how to communicate.

[Mintexmemory]

I guess with the scare the spectator lost his feet and fell down, It didn't look like a such a big fall but it seems it was head first.

damn that's bad - head first from 2m can be fatal. Let's hope for good news

[GeoFerg_Sco]

Unfortunately there was a spectator sitting there...
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170119/8bced22f30e8b04d8fe6b0969b7dc7d3.jpg

Agree. There is a flash goes off as if he is taking a photo before the car goes sideways in that direction

[Duvel]

rear of the car hits spectator, big hit i'm afraid.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Are you saying there should be no night rallying? In my view it's immaterial whether it's the first or last stage. It's either acceptable or not. It is acceptable imvho.

No. Just at the start of a season on a road so easily blocked.

[RS]

No. Just at the start of a season on a road so easily blocked.

Especially as they chose this stage for one of only three tv stages.

[Francis44]

Holy Molly, he hits the spectator indeed :(. But it seems he was moving his head as another spectator aproached so let's hope for the best.

[HaCo]

Don't want to be too cynical, but Crappy Shitty start for the new Gr B cars... :( :( :( :(

[MrJan]

damn that's bad - head first from 2m can be fatal. Let's hope for good news

I'm sure that he was launched upwards first, rather than being stood on the bank. Looks from the video that he gets caught with the rear of the car and hit into the air, then falls back down.

[Mintexmemory]

No. Just at the start of a season on a road so easily blocked.

Not making light of this terrible time but every decent stage has constrictions at some point or else it's Silverstone

[Rallyper]

Are you saying there should be no night rallying? In my view it's immaterial whether it's the first or last stage. It's either acceptable or not. It is acceptable imvho.

That´s not the question. Only - is it smart to begin with very tuff stage, first thing on the season. Else night stages is completely ok.

[kure91]

Looks to me like he may have actually hit him with the rear of the car as it goes out of shot. At about 0.25 I think you can see the guy being thrown up the bank. Horrible, horrible accident.

yeah, you probably sure. Fingers crossed for that spectator.

[AL14]

Oh shit he wasn't just falling down. He has been hit. But for god sakes what the fuck are you doing there, jesus christ.

[Ctesibios]

History seems to repeat itself

[Duvel]

Paddon or Kennard also pointing in direction where guy was sitting. Hope it will be ok..

[macebig]

The last thing WRC needs right now is for mainstream media to start throwing Group B danger shades.

[Andre Oliveira]

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16174975_1601998813162873_2966719948984603485_n.jp g?oh=4621733fbfc02c0d841a78dabecbb3be&oe=59168953

[Negaiss]

There were Grou B, then group A, and now Group before A. Lasted 10 minutes and alreadu accident including spectators.

[Jasper]

I also think he was first hit by the car.

[Duvel]

https://youtu.be/GtvMUszcw24

No boudt, clear on this video. Damn

[EstWRC]

who says it wouldnt have happened with last years cars? for christs sake already blaming the cars

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And with the faster cars, this was a risk by the organisers they didnt need on SS1.

[cali]

History seems to repeat itself
1986 was exactly 30 years ago

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[EightGear]

And with the faster cars, this was a risk by the organisers they didnt need on SS1.

Can you please stop now?

[Rallyper]

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16174975_1601998813162873_2966719948984603485_n.jp g?oh=4621733fbfc02c0d841a78dabecbb3be&oe=59168953

This hasn´t anything to do with the new regulations and cars. It was a very stupid spectator and lack of marshalls on the spot.

[aykutbilir]

I wonder why nobody asking wtf that spectator sitting 15 cm away from road!


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[Googol]

And with the faster cars, this was a risk by the organisers they didnt need on SS1.

Yeah, since on day light drivers are well capable to keep the cars on the road.

[Bartek]

It could also happened with R2, place where he sat was dangerous. It's not Paddon nor new cars fault.

[MrJan]

Paddon or Kennard also pointing in direction where guy was sitting. Hope it will be ok..

Yeah, looked like the guy's seat on the ground.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

That´s not the question. Only - is it smart to begin with very tuff stage, first thing on the season. Else night stages is completely ok.

Exactly.

[steve.mandzij]

All these people saying history repeats itself and throwing shit at the new cars... It was the organizers' fault. He shouldn't have been sitting on the ground, even if it was on the side of the road. Monte Carlo spectator safety looks to be really bad.

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[Francis44]

Paddon was already involved in an accident with several hurt in Argentina last year. It's not about the cars but about safety and prevention.

Instead of blaming the cars we should blame this awfull MC organizers.

[bluuford]

This was very slow and slippy corner, so, no question about car power at all.

[HaCo]

No boudt, clear on this video. Damn

Not 100% sure tough, could be a backpack. Someone fell down for sure...

Look at this shot. You see something black next to the road, road level...

[MrJan]

who says it wouldnt have happened with last years cars? for christs sake already blaming the cars

Indeed. Tail out on ice. Could have happened in a Fiat 131 or a MK2 Escort or a Saab V4 or a Integrale or pretty much anything.

[Bartek]

Exactly.

Guys, we are talking about rally drivers which rode thousands of km in that kind of cars not about sunday driver.

[seb_sh]

It's stupid to blame the cars for this incident, could have happened with fiesta R2 just as well.

Even more stupid is any spectator sitting in that spot.

[RAS007]

And with the faster cars, this was a risk by the organisers they didnt need on SS1.

Respectfully, the organisers cannot entirely control the crowd, or the level risk an individual is willing to take, in order to take a photograph. It's pretty basic: don't stand/sit on the outside of a corner.

[focus206]

I hope the spectator "just" fell and wasn't hit before, in that case it shouldn't be too serious... news are slow though, fingers crossed. And yes, very stupid place to stand by...

[wia5958]

Its nothing to do with the cars or the stage or it being at night. On the outside of a corner is a ridiculous place to stand. Especially were he was there was no escape. I hope the guys ok but jesus a bit of common sense goes a long way. Horrible start but hopefully the spectator is ok and the rest of the event runs smoothly

[HaCo]

I hope the spectator "just" fell and wasn't hit before, in that case it shouldn't be too serious... news are slow though, fingers crossed. And yes, very stupid place to stand by...

I hope and think so too. Stupid accident.

[MrJan]

Not 100% sure tough, could be a backpack. Someone fell down for sure...

Look at this shot. You see something black next to the road, road level...

Watch the onboard. As he loses the back end you can see a guy with a blue hoody sat by the road at the end of the barrier. When the car comes to a rest on it's side you can see the same blue in front the car.

[bluuford]

We do not know anything yet. We just know that someone got hurt. It can be also rock or pice of car that flew as a result of contact´, hit specator and then spectator fell down.

[seb_sh]

Its nothing to do with the cars or the stage or it being at night. On the outside of a corner is a ridiculous place to stand. Especially were he was there was no escape. I hope the guys ok but jesus a bit of common sense goes a long way. Horrible start but hopefully the spectator is ok and the rest of the event runs smoothly

Exactly that spot breaks all the "rules" of rally spectating: He's close to the road, at the same level, with nowhere to run and little time to react...

[N.O.T]

Sitting on the ground at the outside of the corner paying attention to your mobile to capture retarded footage... wow....

[JUF]

According to Twitter news, the guy sitting there isn´t the same person falling down.

[Bartek]

That's why watching rally is for a people who think twice before they choose the right place, many rally spectators think that they are immortal...

[cali]

According to Twitter news, the guy sitting there isn´t the same person falling down.
Waiting for the good news

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[er88]

Sickening accident, he's thrown against the cliff by rear of the car.

Really hope the guy is OK, but why stand there??! Horrible for everyone involved, Paddon will be feeling awful right now

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[Rally Power]

This hasn´t anything to do with the new regulations and cars. It was a very stupid spectator and lack of marshalls on the spot.

Yep, it seems to be just a stupid fall from a not very brigth spectator. No shot deserves to put yourself in so tricky place. Didn't see any contact with the i20 and it could have happened with any car. Hope the guy gets ok and the rally goes on without any further incidents. WRC deserves it.

Btw, please let's stop bringhing up Gr.B bad memories. There's very little in common with those days.

[N.O.T]

Sickening accident, he's thrown against the cliff by rear of the car.

Really hope the guy is OK, but why stand there??! Horrible for everyone involved, Paddon will be feeling awful right now

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Paddon is the only person that should not feel awful, the organisers and the people who stood there with him should feel awful.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Guys, my comment was based on WRC TV saying the stage was cancelled just due to a car blocking the stage...

[Andre Oliveira]

Paddon asking where is the guy of side of the road.

[Jasper]

Yep, it seems to be just a stupid fall from a not very brigth spectator. No shot deserves to put yourself in so tricky place. Didn't see any contact with the i20 and it could have happened with any car. Hope the guy gets ok and the rally goes on without any further incidents. WRC deserves it.

Btw, please let's stop bringhing up Gr.B bad memories. There's very little in common with those days.

It's not a stupid fall. Paddon has hit him with the rear end. Just look at the way he is falling down. That's not just someone falling down. Hope he will be ok.

[Ctesibios]

Controlling spectators and keeping them in designated areas is really a challenge! I have been on both sides of that challenge!

[wwbroe]

Doesn't look good for the spectator, he was in a very stupid place, WRC and new cars doesn't deserve this.

[MartijnS]

On this link you can see it clear that he is hit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQJ1bVgDaJk

[Ctesibios]

What is the status for SS2?

[er88]

A spectator who is that stupid would've put himself in a bad position in any stage, no matter how wide or narrow it was. That can't be helped.

I for one like this start to the Monte and watching that onboard footage, because it's so narrow and challenging for the drivers. With the new machinery it's an even bigger test so great for the viewers. Just a shame this has happened and somebody hasn't told the spectator to move to a safer place, as he obviously didn't have the mental capacity to think for himself...

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[N.O.T]

What is the status for SS2?

still a lot of time until then.. we will see.

[bluuford]

This place:
https://www.google.de/maps/@43.9228588,6.6726487,3a,75y,284.69h,80.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sEPkHhj3BmkfRz6uqN2VxmQ!2e0!7i1 3312!8i6656?hl=en

There are plenty of loose rocks available

[er88]

Paddon is the only person that should not feel awful, the organisers and the people who stood there with him should feel awful.
Agreed, but it's human nature and despite the fact Paddon shouldn't feel awful, he will

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[Rallyper]

That stupid spectator wins the 2017 Darwin award. And besides that I always thought RMC isn´t belonging to WRC. That´s my opinion. Always was.

[MrJan]

Controlling spectators and keeping them in designated areas is really a challenge! I have been on both sides of that challenge!

Spectators shouldn't be restricted to designated areas, it spoils the sport. They should, however, be restricted to sensible areas. Sat on the stage, with no protection on the outside of an icy corner is not a sensible spot to be.


What is the status for SS2?

Same time as scheduled it seems.

[car]

Guys, my comment was based on WRC TV saying the stage was cancelled just due to a car blocking the stage...

I wouldn't worry at all mate... there is / was a lot of confusion as to what has happened exactly and I don't think anyone on here will think you said anything harsh at all... Take it easy and hopefully the guy will be ok and the rest of the rally will be safe.

[MrJan]

Rally Radio really tip-toeing around the issue, nice to finally hear a bit of confirmation that they realise what the rumours are but have to wait for official confirmation.

[danon]

Unfortunately there was a spectator sitting there...
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170119/8bced22f30e8b04d8fe6b0969b7dc7d3.jpg

Looking at this picture it looks like there is a spectator right after the one sitting who got hit.

Blue clothes and red hat like the one in the vid posted above - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQJ1bVgDaJk

[N.O.T]

I wouldn't worry at all mate... there is / was a lot of confusion as to what has happened exactly and I don't think anyone on here will think you said anything harsh at all... Take it easy and hopefully the guy will be ok and the rest of the rally will be safe.

i hope the rally is safe no matter if he is ok or not, you cannot do anything about stupidity, its the worst condition anyone can have.

[Mariusz]

Sickening accident, he's thrown against the cliff by rear of the car.

Really hope the guy is OK, but why stand there??! Horrible for everyone involved, Paddon will be feeling awful right now

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Why stand there? To get good, night pictures or good video which after it's uploaded to youtube others would praise it and moan about the official videos :(

[stefanvv]

Guys, my comment was based on WRC TV saying the stage was cancelled just due to a car blocking the stage...

I don't think the car was much of trouble, more the spectator incident.

[N.O.T]

Why stand there? To get good, night pictures or good video which after it's uploaded to youtube others would praise it and moan about the official videos :(

i do not think anyone praises mobile phone videos taken from the outside of the corner at the same level with the car....

[Allez Andruet]

Spectators shouldn't be restricted to designated areas, it spoils the sport.
I used to agree, but when you see these kind of idiots sitting there on the outside of an icy corner... I don't know. Would it really be that stupid idea just to force the spectators to designated areas? Only for the sake of rally sport, that's all.

[HaCo]

This is no spectator I think:
https://twitter.com/mart1nf7/status/822175792721494016

But the one in blue is :(

[bluuford]

Why stand there? To get good, night pictures or good video which after it's uploaded to youtube others would praise it and moan about the official videos :(
Official camera was 2 meters from that spot, remember?

[Rally Power]

I looked again. To me it still seems the guy was on a much higher position than the car. You can actually see the car lights pointing at him on .27s, just when he's falling. The car never hits him.

Anyway, hope he's ok and other guys won't take that kind of risk. Spectators should enjoy the spectacle without ruin it.

[N.O.T]

This is no spectator I think:
https://twitter.com/mart1nf7/status/822175792721494016

But the one in blue is :(

both of them are natural selection at work...

[Duvel]

I'm afraid it's involving 2 spectators, one being lounched over the rock, other (the one you can see on the onboard after crash) is on the ground on the (stupid) position they were.

[car]

N.O.T, I'm not so sure calling someone who may be seriously injured 'stupid' is appropriate right now. I am just hopeful that he will be ok and the sport can use this as an example to teach others. Please leave the detrimental comments out, at least until we know the guy is ok.
And, yeah, goes without saying we all want safe rallys, all the time.

[Ctesibios]

Spectators shouldn't be restricted to designated areas, it spoils the sport. They should, however, be restricted to sensible areas. Sat on the stage, with no protection on the outside of an icy corner is not a sensible spot to be.



Same time as scheduled it seems.
I agree, but sometimes the euphoria of the moment makes you lose your judgement. Not saying this spectator had any to start with, but this new season will be a major challenge for crowd control.

[N.O.T]

N.O.T, I'm not so sure calling someone who may be seriously injured 'stupid' is appropriate right now. I am just hopeful that he will be ok and the sport can use this as an example to teach others. Please leave the detrimental comments out, at least until we know the guy is ok.
And, yeah, goes without saying we all want safe rallys, all the time.

if you want political correctness you should ignore me kid. he was STUPID and a freaking accident waiting to happen...and guess what.. it did.

[MrJan]

N.O.T, I'm not so sure calling someone who may be seriously injured 'stupid' is appropriate right now. I am just hopeful that he will be ok and the sport can use this as an example to teach others. Please leave the detrimental comments out, at least until we know the guy is ok.
And, yeah, goes without saying we all want safe rallys, all the time.

I tend not to be a fan of NOT's pretty brash style. However I have to agree that, injured or not, anyone stood in that position is stupid. You don't become less stupid just because you're badly injured.

[drive]

just look at this https://youtu.be/tOidlkMs6JY - on a onboard video its clearly visible that spectator was in a very wrong place...

[Duvel]

The one you see from onboard, can never be the same as the one you see on the shot whit car on the side? or am i seeing thins wrong now?

[A FONDO]

I confess I took similar risks in the first stage of a live rally and hillclimb (and I'm sure most of you have also done it at least once) when enthusiasim is high to the sky, first car passing by, second car passing by, oh I can get a better angle of this... unfortunately the bad luck strikes when you least expect it. Let's hope the rally will continue on schedule, cause I am sure the guy would want so.

[Myrvold]

N.O.T, I'm not so sure calling someone who may be seriously injured 'stupid' is appropriate right now. I am just hopeful that he will be ok and the sport can use this as an example to teach others. Please leave the detrimental comments out, at least until we know the guy is ok.


Actually first time I agree with N.O.T. Survival of the fittest and all that stuff.

It also bugs be that the wrc+ coverage seemingly have just been deleted, like deleting coverage removes it from history.

[car]

if you want political correctness you should ignore me kid. he was STUPID and a freaking accident waiting to happen...and guess what.. it did.

Never mind 'kid'.. I just got the impression that a man of your intelligence would show some respect at a time like this.

[Francis44]

Now it seems promoters are flagging the videos on YouTube, and for me that cannot be good :(.

[Allez Andruet]

if you want political correctness you should ignore me kid. he was STUPID and a freaking accident waiting to happen...and guess what.. it did.

For the first time ever, I have to agree. No matter how badly the spectator was hurt, he was being a complete idiot and a rallyhater for putting the sport at such risk.

[N.O.T]

The one you see from onboard, can never be the same as the one you see on the shot whit car on the side? or am i seeing thins wrong now?

Things are simple if a spectator was hit by paddon and judging from the accident then he was plain stupid and sitting on an amazingly wrong place, if he was standing on the hill and the shockwave dropped him then its just bad luck, but if he dropped from a high place he would be ok with maybe some broken bones and it doesn;t look like that.

[Mariusz]

Official camera was 2 meters from that spot, remember?
Nope, you're mistaken.

[car]

I tend not to be a fan of NOT's pretty brash style. However I have to agree that, injured or not, anyone stood in that position is stupid. You don't become less stupid just because you're badly injured.
I'm not arguing with the sentiment... just the timing. If the guy suffers worst case scenario, I for one wouldn't want to look back and think I had called him stupid.

[EightGear]

Hyundai Motorsport
‏@HMSGOfficial
SS1 UPDATE: it's reported that a person was involved in Paddon's accident. We are liaising with the organisers to have more news.



U kiddin Hyundai?

[AL14]

He is stupid no matter what happen. Hope nothing will happen but he is stupid and put other people like Paddon in a very bad situation.
Him and the organizer that should have kicked his ass out of there.
End of story.

[N.O.T]

Hyundai Motorsport
‏@HMSGOfficial
SS1 UPDATE: it's reported that a person was involved in Paddon's accident. We are liaising with the organisers to have more news.



U kiddin Hyundai?

its an official statement... what did you expect ?

[Andre Oliveira]

Spectator evacuated by Heli

[MrJan]

(and I'm sure most of you have also done it at least once)

Have tyo admit that I've ended up in a stupid spot or two. This was one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGFNbeQ4t8Q

Chap in a blue coat that's to the left of the car at 9 seconds. The spot wasn't too bad for watching, but there was no decent escape route. When the accident started I turned to run, went a few feet and there was a fence there. Tried getting back towards the stage but slipped just as the car hit a tree. Very, very close to being a Darwin Award. My old man was stood next to me and didn't move a muscle throughout, just waited to see which way the car was going. Learnt a lesson that day because we'd noticed that it wasn't the best spot and had agreed to move "when we've finished this cup of coffee".

[kirungi okwogera]

There is a person in green high vis vest in the onboard, not 3m from the black spot where the guy seems to be sitting... steward not doing their job?

[bluuford]

Nope, you're mistaken.

4 meters? Incident was shown on live TV?
Lets take some psoitives out from here. Tänak fastest on first split, Ogier fastest on second split and neuville Fastest at the finish, sounds like quite equal cars :)

[MrJan]

I'm not arguing with the sentiment... just the timing. If the guy suffers worst case scenario, I for one wouldn't want to look back and think I had called him stupid.

Why not? He wouldn't be less stupid just because he was dead. If we continue to dance around the issue of standing in a stupid spot when the worst case scenario happens then people won't learn.

[J_n_z]

Heli is good news... so there was some life in him, if you understand me...

[Myrvold]

There is a person in green high vis vest in the onboard, not 3m from the black spot where the guy seems to be sitting... steward not doing their job?

Or a media-guy.
I tend to use vest as well when I am filming.

[wwbroe]

This is good news...
What is?

[mm1]

Now it seems promoters are flagging the videos on YouTube, and for me that cannot be good :(.

This is just such a stupid behaviour, it`s 2017 for God`s sake, you can`t hide unwanted stuff anymore, just don`t make your selve anymore stupid than you allready are, yes you - RMC orgs and officials...

[bluuford]

Or a media-guy.
I tend to use vest as well when I am filming.
That is what I am telling you.. official footage was filmed a few meters from that spot :)

[Andre Oliveira]

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t34.0-12/16176558_1602031386492949_1244672504_n.jpg?oh=5f87 8c36970d8d9a53394e87c93b2039&oe=5883D388

[jparker]

For the first time ever, I have to agree. No matter how badly the spectator was hurt, he was being a complete idiot and a rallyhater for putting the sport at such risk.

Before we all know the facts, comments like this are inappropriate. What if this was a kid (unfortunately it looked like that to me) left by stupid parents?

[J_n_z]

What is?
Heli is good news.. I forgot to quote

[Bartek]

So, we have 1 or 2 involved people in that accident?

[MrJan]

This is just such a stupid behaviour, it`s 2017 for God`s sake, you can`t hide unwanted stuff anymore, just don`t make your selve anymore stupid than you allready are, yes you - RMC orgs and officials...

It's their copyright, perfectly reasonable that they tug the footage. Plenty of other broadcasters do that with their footage, why should RBMG allow these videos to be live just because someone was hurt?

[MrJan]

So, we have 1 or 2 involved people in that accident?

Don't know yet for sure.