Rally Wrc Monte Carlo 2017

[KKS]

Good stage for Breen. And now Citroen must think twice when they want put Leferbve into 2017spec car instead of Craig

[tc10a]

Seems some are delayed from the first stage and run late: Hänninen, Mikkelsen, Evans,...

[N.O.T]

calm down guys its just the first stage!

well they are the same guys who take sd times seriously... filter them out.

[wwbroe]

On EWRC they say Lefebre went off

[EstWRC]

Evans went now...im very interested

[AL14]

Seems some are delayed from the first stage and run late: Hänninen, Mikkelsen, Evans,...

yes my friend at startline told me that they are all mixed. Hanninen is after two R5, Mikkelsen is way down the order but it seems they will just start as they are.

[steve.mandzij]

Jan Kopecky is really acing it in WRC2

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[car]

Breen is the future.

Dry tarmac. Night. Under instruction to bring it home and get experience... This stage time can not be underestimated. Very, very impressive.

[Morte66]

According to the split times page, Paddon is going to be on the stage starting 19th. Can it be true?

[TMorel]

I know a lot of the chatter the last hour was due to Paddons crash (still hoping for the best), but it's encouraging to see a bit more enthusism for rallying again this year here and on the other lesser forums, I was really keyed up today which is the first time in quite a while.
Let's hope the news is better than feared and we can enjoy a cracking season for a change. Is certainly looking worth watching so far - I even downloaded the RedBullTV app !

[kirungi okwogera]

Dry tarmac. Night. Under instruction to bring it home and get experience... This stage time can not be underestimated. Very, very impressive.

I think you're getting ahead of yourselves. This is Monte-Carlo. You can have the right tyres and get a killer time, or the conditions can be a big leveler where horsepower means less.

With Lefebvre out on a mechanical who's to say Breen wouldn't have had the same problem if they'd stuck him in the new car?

[Googol]

According to the split times page, Paddon is going to be on the stage starting 19th. Can it be true?

No. His dot at least is not at the start.

[HarriK]

Hänninen started 23.59

[BigWorm]

According to the split times page, Paddon is going to be on the stage starting 19th. Can it be true?

I doubt that

[KKS]

Promissing first split from Abbring.

[Lead]

What class car Abbring is having? R5?

[kraut]

According to the split times page, Paddon is going to be on the stage starting 19th. Can it be true?

I can understand it. Under normal conditions the car would be put on the wheels again and he would have lost maximum a minute. Because of the incident with the spectator he stayed at the spot.

So it is up to the stewards to give him a fair time.

[BigWorm]

Promissing first split from Abbring.

What you said

4s on Kopecky in one split, on tarmac, is pretty good.

[wwbroe]

Good first split for Evans

[Googol]

Hmm, WRC+ switched to Friday stages.

[steve.mandzij]

Can't decide yet whether the i20 is a killer car or if Neuville is truly focuses like never before.

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[car]

I think you're getting ahead of yourselves. This is Monte-Carlo. You can have the right tyres and get a killer time, or the conditions can be a big leveler where horsepower means less.

With Lefebvre out on a mechanical who's to say Breen wouldn't have had the same problem if they'd stuck him in the new car?

On dry tarmac though... really?

[N.O.T]

On dry tarmac though... really?

do irish and welsh share the same ancestors ? i want to validate something....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rumour- spectator "seriously injured" is a 50 year-old Spaniard that has been transferred to a hospital in Nice.

[Andre Oliveira]

Hyundai Motorsport portuguese guy said he is dead.

[MrJan]

Can't decide yet whether the i20 is a killer car or if Neuville is truly focuses like never before.

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Neuville can be quick and tyres have a big effect, difficult to say at the minute. Sordo was pretty slow in comparison so you can't really draw a conclusion on the cars yet.

[HarriK]

Evans only +11 at second split and hänninen only 9.1sec

[steve.mandzij]

Neuville can be quick and tyres have a big effect, difficult to say at the minute. Sordo was pretty slow in comparison so you can't really draw a conclusion on the cars yet.
What looks to be true is that the Fiesta is a really good car. All three times so far are close.

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[dimviii]

nice2nd splitfrom Hanninen

[MrJan]

What looks to be true is that the Fiesta is a really good car. All three times so far are close.

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I'm not convinced, Ogier down on both stages compared to Neuville, but most people would probably agree that Seb is the better driver.

[EstWRC]

what the heck dmack where did that from? im very glad actually

[Morte66]

...and Paddon is gone from the splits page.

[USER47]

I'm not convinced, Ogier down on both stages compared to Neuville, but most people would probably agree that Seb is the better driver.
Ogier is also a smart driver. He might be taking it easy at the beginning...

[KKS]

And Delecour with 124Fiat is a way faster then Dumas on 1st split

[MrJan]

nice2nd splitfrom Hanninen

Hmm, perhaps that Yaris isn't as bad as everyone thought? Still difficult to say but he's on a decent pace.

[jparker]

Paddon name was replaced by Abbring. Is that possible?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans goes 5th ! :)

[BigWorm]

Evans 5th fastest. But still 21s off, reckon it would have been less should he be on Michelins

[Myrvold]

Abbring going very good so far!

[dimviii]

Hanninen same pace till 3rd split with Tanak.

[kirungi okwogera]

Paddon name was replaced by Abbring. Is that possible?

Probably shouldn't take the website glitches as meaning much

[EstWRC]

nice job dmack and Evans! Tänak left at the wrong time? just kidding its just the first stage :)

[maciotacio]

Also the road gets dirtier by each pass.

[MrJan]

And Delecour with 124Fiat is a way faster then Dumas on 1st split

Not on the second split though, made up loads of time?

[RallyTyger]

Impressive final time for Hanninen. 3rd

[Myrvold]

Hänninen 3rd overall. Color me surprised!

[BigWorm]

Hänninen on pace for 5th or perhaps even 4th, solid stuff

I guess I'll take that back.

[Morte66]

Hanninen 3rd, ahead of Meeke.

Curse him.

[Ross99]

Hanninen!!!

[HarriK]

Hänninen 3rd fastest on stage2!!

[EightGear]

Alright, Welsh is by far the strangest language I've ever heard.

[MrJan]

Juho goes quicker than Meeke! Obviously only one stage but still...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

what the heck dmack where did that from? im very glad actually

New DMack tarmac tyres. Plus is not hot weather...

[EstWRC]

Nice Hänninen! very nice

[KKS]

Abbring going very good so far!
but lost everything till the end

[maciotacio]

Really suprised by Hanninen time. Thought he will be just cruising

[Fast Eddie WRC]

4 different cars in the top 4 on SS2... nice. :)

[jparker]

Probably shouldn't take the website glitches as meaning much

I have checked the start list. Abbring is not there. I looks like he replaced Paddon. Is this possible?

[dodge33cymru]

Alright, Welsh is by far the strangest language I've ever heard.
Try Basque...

[er88]

Hanninen ruining latvala. How broken is Jari ;)

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[Co-FIN]

Quite OK time for Hänninen. Even though he's "Useless dog" or something bs that NOT gives out from his fingers


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[TheFlyingTuga]

I have checked the start list. Abbring is not there. I looks like he replaced Paddon. Is this possible?

He was in the start list and he is there, but with a R5 i20

[EightGear]

I have checked the start list. Abbring is not there. I looks like he replaced Paddon. Is this possible?
What do you mean? Abbring is 2nd in R5.

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen slower from Kopecky and Abbring at 3 splits

[kirungi okwogera]

I have checked the start list. Abbring is not there. I looks like he replaced Paddon. Is this possible?

No he's there. Copy-pasted from wrc.com:

Startlist:

75 NLD K. ABBRING
BEL M. WYDAEGHE HYUNDAI MOTORSPORT N
HYUNDAI I20

[itix]

Not going to read too much into Hänninens time yet.

Could be down to tyres etc but it should be said that there would be more snow pulled out on the stage with his late starting position so still pretty impressive.

[KKS]

I have checked the start list. Abbring is not there. I looks like he replaced Paddon. Is this possible?
check it twice ;)

[mousti]

Hanninen very underestimated driver and remember in the IRC years he was very fast at MC.

[N.O.T]

for monte standards the gaps are ok, and with the snow and ice conditions of tomorrow it could be a huge advantage to run down the order lets see...

I really hope tomorrows stages do not class with the inauguration of our eternal world emperor trump.

[KKS]

Dumas - out

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikkelsen fastest WRC2 by over 4s.

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen slower from Kopecky and Abbring at 3 splits

finally faster.

[EstWRC]

ok time to sleep...Hänninen, Evans and Neuville the surprises of the day...others did ok but tomorrow at the same time we know much more already.

[drive]

Mikkelsen great time

[MrJan]

Not going to read too much into Hänninens time yet.

Could be down to tyres etc but it should be said that there would be more snow pulled out on the stage with his late starting position so still pretty impressive.

^^^This. Need a few more stages before we can start reading much into tonights results, tyres have such a bearing that we need at least a full loop of stages.

[dimviii]

Tidemand was slow +40 from Mikkelsen

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good night Thierry.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2kXZvsWEAAv631.jpg:large

[dimviii]

Tidemand was slow +40 from Mikkelsen


Pontus Tidemand ‏@PontusTidemand now
Through SS2 in 16:40.9. Alright start but had a spin in a hairpin. The ice crew did a great job, happy we got through safely. #RAMC2017

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen great time

Andreas Mikkelsen ‏@AMikkelsenRally 2m
2 minutes ago

#RAMC2017 SS2 “Safely through, no risks! Starting with cold tyres, caught up with another driver on stage.” #SkodaMotorsport #WRC2 #WRC

[itix]

Tidemand was slow +40 from Mikkelsen
Both swedes were really slow... Actually the WRC 2 field was very spread out.

[Morte66]

Hanninen's time is just one stage in one rally, but it seems like an indication that Toyota don't have to just make up the numbers this year. The car is apparently good enough that they can be competitive if the drivers, reliability and luck come together.

[itix]

Has Dumas crashed? No times for him anywhere...

[Myrvold]

Has Dumas crashed? No times for him anywhere...

Yup. Mikkelsen mentioned it. "I caught a Porsche and drove behind it, but he went off the road so..."

[Barreis]

http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127808

[mousti]

https://www.google.be/amp/www.ouest-france.fr/sport/auto/rallycross/monte-carlo-spectateur-grievement-blesse-premiere-speciale-annulee-4745831/amp

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[MrJan]

My schoolboy French not that great but am I right in saying the key points of that article suggest that it's a Spanish photographer who was airlifted to Nice Hospital with life threatening injuries?

Seems to be a lot of disinformation around though, some reports saying Belgian who's dead, others say Portuguese etc. etc.

[tc10a]

Statement from Hyundai Motorsport:
https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial/status/822237896014970880

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2ks6VpXcAAbIq7.jpg:large

[turves]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170120/24da37efcbbe4ab195a9c29af69f2641.jpg

Rumours appear to be true. RIP.


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[Myrvold]

Not surprised sadly.

[itix]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170120/24da37efcbbe4ab195a9c29af69f2641.jpg

Rumours appear to be true. RIP.


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Now remains only to establish if he was hit by the car or if he fell down the hill/had a heart attack as suggested.

May he rest in peace and condolences to his family and those near to him.

[Luis Pacheco]

Now remains only to establish if he was hit by the car or if he fell down the hill/had a heart attack as suggested.

It was struck by the rear of the Hyundai and thrown against the barrier. Is it hard to understand?

[itix]

It was struck by the rear of the Hyundai and thrown against the barrier. Is it hard to understand?
We still don't know that... What I thought was a person turned out to be a piece of the car... If you look in the beginning there's no one with a blue jacket by the side of the road (only someone with a black one).

He could just have fallen down... Autopsy will reveal cause of death if the police can not find enough info to confirm cause of death.

[Simmi]

Our spot for SS2.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPd3023AaoQ/?taken-by=_richsimpson


Obviously condolences to the family of the spectator. Ridiculous place to stand/squat. A good reminder for everyone. Biggest emotion really is feeling for Hayden and John and they shouldn't have been put in this position.

[GravelBen]

... Autopsy will reveal cause of death if the police can not find enough info to confirm cause of death.

And in any case the team and officials will have to wait for the results of an official investigation before making public statements about the details. Have to be more certain in an official capacity than some guy saying what he thinks on an internet forum.

RIP and condolences to the spectators family - hopefully some good comes out of it and more people think about standing somewhere safe to spectate.

Hope Hayden and John don't take it too hard as well.

[RallyTyger]

To look at the positive; great to see 4 different manufacturers in the top 4 so far, excited to see how things will be after more miles are covered

[RallyTyger]

Official statement from WRC.com http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/january-2017/monte-spectator/page/4224--12-12-.html

[bassist]

R.i.p.

[bassist]

official statement from wrc.com http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/january-2017/monte-spectator/page/4224--12-12-.html

r.i.p.

[MrJan]

Sad news but not completely unexpected. Sad for the friends & family of the deceased and sad for Hayden to be in that position.

[Mariusz]

"As a mark of respect for the spectator who sadly passed away tonight we have decided to withdraw car #4 from Rallye Monte-Carlo."
https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial/status/822260102308786176

[er88]

RIP

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[Allyc85]

After what had been a great time on stage 2, I'm gutted to read the spectator passed away :(

Rip

[er88]

After what had been a great time on stage 2, I'm gutted to read the spectator passed away :(

Rip
My advice would be don't even bother watching the footage closely when you get the chance then. I couldn't spot what had happened but once you notice it, it's very bad. Sad for all involved.

How were the new cars? The new Hyundai looks and sounds spectacular and that's just from the TV

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[N.O.T]

No death in the incident.

wow kid, australian open is on, go there, and stay there....

[dimviii]

Lefebvre

It's a transmission problem that prevented us to go at the end of the ES2. I think that we will be back tomorrow in Rally2 #WRC

[janvanvurpa]

We still don't know that... What I thought was a person turned out to be a piece of the car... If you look in the beginning there's no one with a blue jacket by the side of the road (only someone with a black one).

He could just have fallen down... Autopsy will reveal cause of death if the police can not find enough info to confirm cause of death.


Look at the videos noga.
If he fell down it was only after he had been kasta uppi luften cirka 2m..
Stackarn.
..
That said, absolutely idiotic place for anybody to stand..

[chris_bakelas]

Lefebvre

It's a transmission problem that prevented us to go at the end of the ES2. I think that we will be back tomorrow in Rally2 #WRC
Wtf?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VBT0gGRa3s4&feature=youtu.be

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[dupanton]

Wtf?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VBT0gGRa3s4&feature=youtu.be

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Yes, here you can see the aftermat of the crash: https://www.facebook.com/ZamboVideosRallye/videos/1398676256841073/
Clearly his transmission broke during the crash or the recovery.

[N.O.T]

lefebre is just a waste of time.

[EstWRC]

Not a good way to start the morning but it would have been miracle if he survived, the impact was massive :(

[Mintexmemory]

No doubt the forum will debate the rights and wrongs of night rallying / ACM safety etc. But if you don't put yourself in harm's way you don't get harmed - sad fact! Every forum member when out spectating should a) never compromise their own safety and b) always take a personal interest in telling those who have got it wrong to adopt the right approach. Let's get some perspective, a single tragedy has happened in the course of a hobby / pastime we love. How much worse is it if you are into skiing? I also will spare many thoughts for the ski hotel avalanche victims in Italy. However, I don't expect to hear any calls to ban skiing or not build hotels near slopes. Let's hope some better manners are now the standard for all rally spectators, especially the ground level gopro fanatics.

[wwbroe]

Not really a big surprise that the guy whas dead after the impact, especially when you have seen the images. Sad news after all for the whole rally community. He was in a very stupid place, but that doesn't change the fact that it is bad for rallying. My toughts are with his family and friends, must be very hard for Hayden and John as well. Let's hope that he can quickly get over it.

[MrJan]

Every forum member when out spectating should a) never compromise their own safety and b) always take a personal interest in telling those who have got it wrong to adopt the right approach.

Yep, although it can sometimes be awkward telling other spectators that they're in a stupid spot. On the Wyedean we saw a guy talk to some people that were stood straight on from a 90 right. They seemed to get the idea and moved from what was a very stupid spot.

[Mintexmemory]

I think you're getting ahead of yourselves. This is Monte-Carlo. You can have the right tyres and get a killer time, or the conditions can be a big leveler where horsepower means less.

With Lefebvre out on a mechanical who's to say Breen wouldn't have had the same problem if they'd stuck him in the new car?

Lefebvre is out because he wrecked the transmission by binning it! Tony Pond once retired with electrical trouble - he hit the bank so hard the battery was smashed!
Breen to change his name to Jean-Luc Breen in order to get a fair consideration?

[René]

Breen to change his name to Jean-Luc Breen in order to get a fair consideration?


A fair consideration by who ???

[N.O.T]

Breen to change his name to Jean-Luc Breen in order to get a fair consideration?


A fair consideration by who ???

By citroen, you see basic simpletons believe that the first stage of the first rally of the season is a clear indication of skill...

[N.O.T]

1 hour to go.

[René]

Because having a car factory drive for a year is a Maltreatment ???

[N.O.T]

Is there another reason apart from driving that in the R2 category Astier was 1.25 mins ahead of everyone else and around 30 seconds faster than the leader of the R3 in just 25kms ?

[Mintexmemory]

By citroen, you see basic simpletons believe that the first stage of the first rally of the season is a clear indication of skill...

...and other basic simpletons can't compute that 'you can't win a rally on the first stage but you sure as hell can lose it!'
Anyway no insult intended, I always consider you the more advanced form!

[EstWRC]

SS3


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2mOugiWQAEeLp9.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2mOvNwXEAEbl1z.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2mXoqnWIAIHv4g.jpg

[N.O.T]

...and other basic simpletons can't compute that 'you can't win a rally on the first stage but you sure as hell can lose it!'
Anyway no insult intended, I always consider you the more advanced form!

so whoever does not F** up on the first stage needs special treatment ?

[Jasper]

Is there another reason apart from driving that in the R2 category Astier was 1.25 mins ahead of everyone else and around 30 seconds faster than the leader of the R3 in just 25kms ?


You mean Someda Pietro?

[N.O.T]

You mean Someda Pietro?

https://rally-base.com/2017/rallye-monte-carlo-2017/?ssId=3867&cupId=211

[Rally Power]

Sad way to start the season, but SS2 already gave some nice indications: Ogier domination days could be over; new cars seem to be matched, including the ugly duckling Yaris; WRC2 has also a fantastic car and driver line up.

Let’s hope for a trouble free rest of the rally, in proper MC conditions, with some fine rally action till the end.

[Mintexmemory]

so whoever does not F** up on the first stage needs special treatment ?

No - those who develop a habit of f**ing up do not deserve special treatment. I refer you to the respective records of those concerned in 2016. Pressure comes in many forms, some show they can't handle it. Anyway stop being Devil's advocate!

[Mintexmemory]

Because having a car factory drive for a year is a Maltreatment ???

No - Lefebvre is very fortunate!

[itix]

Most definitely Pietro
https://s28.postimg.org/d6exa7mrt/Screenshot_20170120_103302.png

Edit: Screenshot extremely blurred for unknown reasons. Go to ewrc-results.com, go to Monte, click RC4 filter.

Pietro is 1.15 ahead of everyone else.

[wwbroe]

How come live-maps doesn't show a thing on wrc+?

[itix]

How come live-maps doesn't show a thing on wrc+?
They do for me... P1 drivers on their way to the stage...

[Jasper]

Most definitely Pietro
https://s28.postimg.org/d6exa7mrt/Screenshot_20170120_103302.png

Screenshot extremely blurred for unknown reasons. Go to ewrc-results.com, go to Monte, click RC4 filter.

Pietro is 1.15 ahead of everyone else.

Ewrc is wrong i think. Look at the results on wrc.com.
NOT is right. It's Astier with a very good time.

[MartijnS]

Nice atmosphere!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJfnDpGMZqY

[dupanton]

Most definitely Pietro
https://s28.postimg.org/d6exa7mrt/Screenshot_20170120_103302.png

Edit: Screenshot extremely blurred for unknown reasons. Go to ewrc-results.com, go to Monte, click RC4 filter.

Pietro is 1.15 ahead of everyone else.

He is faster then Tidemand, al other sites including the official WRC site, have him with a time 10min slower

[dupanton]

Is there another reason apart from driving that in the R2 category Astier was 1.25 mins ahead of everyone else and around 30 seconds faster than the leader of the R3 in just 25kms ?

Astier is a very talented driver. But I agree, his time is very impressive and possibly wrong.

[itix]

Ewrc is wrong i think. Look at the results on wrc.com.
NOT is right. It's Astier with a very good time.
Yeah, seem to be correct...

[EstWRC]

Michelin Motorsport ‏@Michelin_Sport 3m3 minutes ago
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#Tyre info: all Michelin @WRC dirvers with 6 Michelin Pilot Alpin A4L/R1 studded #RallyeMonteCarlo

[Jasper]

Astier is a very talented driver. But I agree, his time is very impressive and possibly wrong.

Probably also his first time in R2. Impressive.

[tc10a]

wrc radio working for anybody?

[Lead]

WRC radio is down?

[maciotacio]

My radio is working pretty well

[Lead]

Ok, its on now...

[cosmin_sb]

ready for action...let see what can happen today

[wwbroe]

All set to follow rally live now...

[wwbroe]

Did Ogier start in time? He is not moving?

[Lord_Shaitan]

Another delay?

[tc10a]

Problems for Ogier early in the stage? Seems to have stopped some time and continued

[EightGear]

Ogier stopped

[itix]

Nvm

[HarriK]

Ogier spin perhaps.

[cosmin_sb]

WRC TV crew report his car in a ditch after 2.5km. He's out of the ditch and underway again.

[itix]

Ogier spin perhaps.
Reports says that he was off the road...

[Lead]

Despite accident yesterday, I feel this rally will be epic.

[tc10a]

Neuville also close to off on same place. seems tricky there

[tc10a]

-41 for neuville on split 1
-33.9 for sordo

[KKS]

Intresting to see split of next car.

[maciotacio]

Others cars will already be prepared for that tricky corner.
Ogier is not a robot !

[eddy707]

Anyone else have problems with wrc+ live maps? Not working for me...

[Ucci]

Reports says that he was off the road...

Still nothing lost....

[jparker]

Does that women on the radio pronounces Tanak's first name correctly?

[wwbroe]

Anyone else have problems with wrc+ live maps? Not working for me...

I have the same problems,no gps data

[itix]

Anyone else have problems with wrc+ live maps? Not working for me...
Yep... Very annoying. Was working great this morning.

[jparker]

Still nothing lost....

He must slow down if he want to win that one.

[tc10a]

Latvala fastest split 1 till now
-42.5 from ogier

Maps working good here

[EightGear]

Good first split by Latvala.

[jparker]

Yep... Very annoying. Was working great this morning.

Last night splits were perfect, and I got excited. Today, the same old story :(

[wwbroe]

Best split for JML, he couldn't get the car going this morning, but seems to work well now

[Rallyper]

Yep... Very annoying. Was working great this morning.

No problems for me. WRC radio works as well.

[tc10a]

Seems no damage to Ogiers car. At 12.40 km nearly same difference -41.1 for neuville

[N.O.T]

Neuville almost off on the same spot as Ogier...

[KKS]

Keep pushing JML! And be safe!

[KKS]

Some "mechanical" issue for Lefebvre yesterday :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBT0gGRa3s4

[mm1]

Some "mechanical" issue for Lefebvre yesterday :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBT0gGRa3s4

Good morning!

[tc10a]

Evans off in same place as Ogier

[maciotacio]

@KKS
Yeah we already saw that, Citroen golden boy at his best.

[Eli]

what??? I'm not here for thirty minutes and both Ogier & Evans off???

[N.O.T]

Big push by Tanak on split 2... nice

[Ucci]

Evans off in same place as Ogier

Some tricky corner, lol...

[cosmin_sb]

Tanak best split at second point

[eddy707]

Surprised by Hanninen. Good first split. Honestly didn't think that he will be showing similar speeds to the top guys.

[KKS]

Same story about "1st on the road" continued .

[itix]

Neuville 41.6 faster than Ogier

[maciotacio]

Sordo is nowhere with the pace. Keep up Dani!

[N.O.T]

Evans lost a lot more than Ogier, probably a problem.

[EstWRC]

Evans lost a lot more than Ogier, probably a problem.

he went into the same ditch

[Jasper]

'First on the road is a disaster.'

I don't believe this, f****** wanker.

[drive]

second split even worse for Evans

[Ucci]

I expect big push from Ogier on the afternoon's loop. If he fails, MC is lost for him....

[J_n_z]

Hanninen ... 2th split...

[N.O.T]

Tanak fastest... nice.

[EstWRC]

Lol Tänak heard alll the stage team conversation from his headphones

[itix]

he went into the same ditch
He keeps losing time also after he was in the ditch...

[maciotacio]

LEfebvre setting worse spilit times than Breen :D

[HarriK]

Evans wont let Hänninen to pass him!

[Eli]

Juho is doing a great job must admit.

[tc10a]

Seems Hänninen is stuck behind Evans...

[N.O.T]

next stage and the longest of the rally starts in 1 min.

[EightGear]

Hanninen is coming fast..

[itix]

Seems Hänninen is stuck behind Evans...
Oh but for God's sakes

[cosmin_sb]

Basso stop in the stage, continue but lost big time

[EstWRC]

will Juho beat Tänak? Like old times in 2011 :)

[er88]

Neuville wasn't convinced by Ogiers assessment that cars further back will benefit

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[tc10a]

Hänninen lost quite some time in the end by overtaking evans... pitty

[ELPE]

Good first split for Tidemand, same as Mikkelsen

[maciotacio]

Hanninen shoud get a time correction due to Evans blocking

[EstWRC]

damn, lost some time because of Evans

[Doon]

Levebvre and Evans both proving that they shouldn't be in a WRC car. It will be the same all season, or until someone worthy like Mikkelsen replaces one of them.

[maciotacio]

Whats going on with Abbring ? The usual Abbring problems? No second, and third split

[BigWorm]

Hänninen held up you say? Well that explains the time he lost in the final sector

[KKS]

Juho lost about 12sec with Evans pass

[EightGear]

Hanninen lost at least 10 seconds by having to pass Evans.

[EstWRC]

welcome to the club Evans, he said "its the tyres we have"...lst only 10 secs because of the ditch

[N.O.T]

ss04 is on.

[er88]

Lefebvre getting the C3 over Breen is a joke, but Lefebvre getting a wrc drive fullstop over Andreas is a scandal

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[Eric]

Lefebvre... What is he doing in that car

[maciotacio]

Levebvre and Evans both proving that they shouldn't be in a WRC car. It will be the same all season, or until someone worthy like Mikkelsen replaces one of them.

Take an easy on Evans. He barely test that Fiesta before rally. But 100% right on Lefebvre, still wonder what is he doing in a factory car

[Bartek]

Take an easy on Evans. He barely test that Fiesta before rally. But 100% right on Lefebvre, still wonder what is he doing in a factory car

He is a French and Citroen is crying after Loeb and Ogier :)

[itix]

On rally radio Evans seems completely unaware he has a problem... He obviously does or he wouldn't loose so much time.

All drivers on the same tires according to Michelin

Edit: I'm an idiot, Evans is on Dmack. Still, doubt all that time loss is from tyres.

[jparker]

Levebvre and Evans both proving that they shouldn't be in a WRC car. It will be the same all season, or until someone worthy like Mikkelsen replaces one of them.

For the rest of the season they are OK, but they are too young for Monte Carlo.

[dupanton]

Abbring went off (non official info)

[KKS]

Evans on unstudded tyres?

[EstWRC]

Evans on unstudded tyres?

no, with studded, dmack tweeted it this morning

[N.O.T]

For the rest of the season they are OK, but they are too young for Monte Carlo.

you should go and follow the australian open.

[GravelBen]

Evans on Dmack?

[er88]

Citroen could fight for the manufactures title if they hired Andreas and put Breen in the 3rd car (maybe give Lefebvre a few drives in it as well)

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[jparker]

2 Fords down, one more to go

[mm1]

Evans on Dmack?

Hence the colours on his car:)

[eddy707]

Basso moving again

[GravelBen]

Hence the colours on his car:)

It was a cheeky reply to the question about if he was on unstudded tyres, but I was too slow and other people replied first!

[N.O.T]

Citroen could fight for the manufactures title if they hired Andreas and put Breen in the 3rd car (maybe give Lefebvre a few drives in it as well)

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you do realise that most contracts were already been signed by the time VW decided to withdraw... the only chance Mikkelsen would be in a team was toyota, but they prefered to listen to village managers.

[itix]

Neuville up on splits on ss4...

[Lead]

Kopecky will not make life easy for Mikkelsen.

[rage82]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170120/9810b3a13ac97f98629d4c6496eb128b.jpg
We are at the Camping les Taillas, the road is slushy and icy beneath the slush. It's actually sunny but it's cold and I think the conditions will stay the same during 1-st pass.

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[er88]

you do realise that most contracts were already been signed by the time VW decided to withdraw... the only chance Mikkelsen would be in a team was toyota, but they prefered to listen to village managers.
They could've kept Lefebvre under contract but give him a DS3 for the majority of rallies then, unless money is incredibly tight

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[J_n_z]

you do realise that most contracts were already been signed by the time VW decided to withdraw... the only chance Mikkelsen would be in a team was toyota, but they prefered to listen to village managers.

Show me THE FLOP please...

[N.O.T]

Show me THE FLOP please...

you have to be patient for that, real season starts in mexico kid.

[wwbroe]

Great split for Ott

[tolx]

Just wow, 70 more pages from yesterday evening.
Didn't expect that much of enthusiasm.
But at least, this looks like proper rally after a long time - totally unpredictable.

[OnlyRally]

Wtf was Evans doing? He doesn't have mirrors and a clock?


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[er88]

Did Juho lose time stuck behind Evans? If so is there any chance he gets a bit of time back?

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[Eric]

Wondering if Citroen are willing to degrade Lefebvre to a DS3 in 2017 and sign Mikkelsen. Meeke, Mikkelsen and Breen would be a really good line up..

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2mwamJVEAIAF7E.jpg

[raybak]

Looks like Hanninen has taken a dust gap behind Evans. Started 3 mins behind instead of 2. I would have done the same thing.

[Googol]

Looks like Hänninen has been given 3 minutes gap to Evans.

[KKS]

Did Juho lose time stuck behind Evans? If so is there any chance he gets a bit of time back?

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1.Yes
2. No

[itix]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2mwamJVEAIAF7E.jpg
Classy!

[Mintexmemory]

Just wow, 70 more pages from yesterday evening.
Didn't expect that much of enthusiasm.
But at least, this looks like proper rally after a long time - totally unpredictable.

Not normal level of traffic - the tragedy had a lot to do with it. You are right in saying this rally is unpredictable, lots still to happen. Remember Bobby K in 2014.

[René]

Breen stopped on stage

[mousti]

Did Juho lose time stuck behind Evans? If so is there any chance he gets a bit of time back?

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They could make a official complaint, organisation can use the onboards for making out how much time he lost and then decide if they want to give it to him or not.

[KKS]

Breen stopped on stage
agrrrrrrr!!!!
WHY?

[Rallyper]

Did Juho lose time stuck behind Evans? If so is there any chance he gets a bit of time back?

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No, it´s rallying.