[WRC] News & rumours (part IV) 2016

[dimviii]

Latvala trolling Anttila

‏@MiikkaAnttila

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#LetsTalk #WRC

Jari-Matti Latvala ‏@JariMattiWRC

.@MiikkaAnttila , can I send my questions too?? :) #Pleeeeaaase

[GigiGalliNo1]

Comments by the big wigs

http://www.fia.com/news/evolution-2017-world-rally-car

[dimviii]

interview with Todt,Ciesla,Barbosa.

a tottaly useless interview,nothing we didnt know.

[EstWRC]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125466/wrc-abandons-2017-control-tyre-plan

[Barreis]

Current cars next season...
http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125491

[Jack4688`]

Quirin Muller, team manager at the Jipocar Czech National squad that runs the currently Dakar focused Martin Prokop, said "we have been waiting for four seasons for the privateers' championship which is promised every year to come for the next season".

He needs to look up what 'promised' and 'every' mean. Never heard of such rumours until this year and the whole 2016vs2017 cars discussion

[COD]

interview with Todt,Ciesla,Barbosa.

a tottaly useless interview,nothing we didnt know.

And none of them worried about the safety issues that these new superwing cars bring. A superlicense will not protect any person, if the machines are too dangerous. I hope I'm wrong, but Sordo testing accident may just have been a sign of what we see next year...

[GigiGalliNo1]

Finland in for the next two years

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160730/4692a26d97dffa3511f85f1947baa97a.jpg

[Red bull]

Memories of the greatest Safari Rally Kenya. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10207178231633392&id=1210845939

[MartijnS]

Abbring states in a press-release that he will drive Rally Germany. Maybe Sordo still not fit enough than?

[MartijnS]

Wrong translation apparently, so Sordo it is ;)

[Eli]

http://www.totalwrc.com/full_story/view/2991/Volkswagen_would_be_supportive_of_Indian_WRC_round _says_Capito/
has anoyone heard about this?

[GigiGalliNo1]

http://sport360.com/video/rally/187540/abu-dhabi-total-boss-sheikh-khalid-al-qassimi-hails-historic-kris-meeke-win-as-defining-moment-for-rallying-in-the-uae

[macebig]

Bravo Capito, that's what WRC needs at the moment. More obscure rounds! It has worked really well for F1 already....

[WUff1]

Bravo Capito, that's what WRC needs at the moment. More obscure rounds! It has worked really well for F1 already....

He should ultimately move to F1 and MacLaren (which I more and more believe won´t happen as long as Ogier is driving VW) and not talking bullshit about rallying all the time.

[jbmarcus21]

Citroen debuts new test in Portugal with C3Wrc 2017 this week http://goo.gl/5Rgor6

[Simmi]

http://www.totalwrc.com/full_story/view/2991/Volkswagen_would_be_supportive_of_Indian_WRC_round _says_Capito/
has anoyone heard about this?

Looks like the story originated from an Indian journalist on Motorsport.com. So I doubt Capito was pushing the Indian agenda, rather responding to being asked about the potential of it.


In bigger news M-Sport's 2017 WRC mule test car turned a wheel for the first time last week.

[Jack4688`]

In bigger news M-Sport's 2017 WRC mule test car turned a wheel for the first time last week.

Any pics?

[Simmi]

Any pics?

Yeah there's one in MN today - so it should appear online soon. A bit like the Hyundai mule there's not much to see outwardly though. There's supposedly a big rear diffuser which isn't shown.

The other interesting thing for me is a quote from Yves Matton regarding Craig Breen. He said next year there will be 15 (factory) seats and he can expect to be in one of those. But not necessarily at Citroen, as they are still narrowing down their shortlist.

So 15 seats implies 3-car teams across the board. But we've heard conflicting stories about just two cars from Toyota and Citroen within the last month?

[rallyfiend]

Maybe not 15 at every event. Notably at tbe start of the season.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Malcolm Wilson tested a 2016 shape Fiesta mule with 2017 WRC spec parts in it and was a success.

[EstWRC]

i guess you mean Matthew?

[liposh]

He said next year there will be 15 (factory) seats and he can expect to be in one of those. But not necessarily at Citroen, as they are still narrowing down their shortlist.

So 15 seats implies 3-car teams across the board. But we've heard conflicting stories about just two cars from Toyota and Citroen within the last month?

Simmi, you forgot the "Ford B factory team" with guys like Bertelli and other guys who can afford it. Nominated by M-sport and being in "official" factory team they will for sure receive superlicence.

[EstWRC]

picture of the fiesta 2017 mule car http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-rs-wrc/the-next-stage-2017-fiesta-takes-to-the-gravel


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co7GFoeXYAADiSj.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co7GJKmWgAAHdxC.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co7GLGRXgAAc7iv.jpg

[GigiGalliNo1]

No, that's Malcolm.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Simmi, you forgot the "Ford B factory team" with guys like Bertelli and other guys who can afford it. Nominated by M-sport and being in "official" factory team they will for sure receive superlicence.

There is no "super license"

[Simmi]

Simmi, you forgot the "Ford B factory team" with guys like Bertelli and other guys who can afford it. Nominated by M-sport and being in "official" factory team they will for sure receive superlicence.

I don't think Matton was referring to these other M-Sport seats - because they are overtly customer 'bought' drives.

Like rallyfiend says I'd say there's zero chance to see 15 full factory cars on the Monte. That's not to say we couldn't see 15 2017 cars though - but I think we'll see some extra works cars coming for maybe Portgual. Maybe some drivers start off in 2016 cars possibly a bit like the Paddon/Monte situation this year. That's just a hunch.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Re Fiesta mule car... wonder why the top grille is blanked off so much... you'd think the new engine would need more air/cooling ?

[AMSS]

picture of the fiesta 2017 mule car http://www.m-sport.co.uk/m-sport-news/fiesta-rs-wrc/the-next-stage-2017-fiesta-takes-to-the-gravel


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co7GFoeXYAADiSj.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co7GJKmWgAAHdxC.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co7GLGRXgAAc7iv.jpg

And by the looks of it on Pirelli tires...

[EightGear]

i guess you mean Matthew?

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads9/57a1cbe8a03a8/57a1cbe8896b9-wilson.jpg

[rallyfiend]

And by the looks of it on Pirelli tires...

Really?

That would be interesting if true.

Can you really tell?

[AMSS]

Really?

That would be interesting if true.

Can you really tell?

Middle picture yes

[Mirek]

Good eyes. It really looks like Pirelli thread pattern.

[tomhlord]

That's a turn up for the books. Maybe Pirelli will be adding in some funding too, would certain help M-Sport?

[dimviii]

Re Fiesta mule car... wonder why the top grille is blanked off so much... you'd think the new engine would need more air/cooling ?

more power needs more cooling.Except that maybe different shape collers for engine/intercooler to suit new fiesta scheme.

[EstWRC]

Prokop and young Wilson testing the new Fiesta. It will not be fast then :p

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/august-2016/2017-fiesta/page/3785--12-12-.html

[Andre Oliveira]

The grill could be cause new stock car will have more grill space too.

[Andre Oliveira]

Good eyes. It really looks like Pirelli thread pattern.

For me it is Dmack letters.

[jbmarcus21]

Marcus at Rally Legend San Marin with Polo Wrc http://goo.gl/Dzy6fr

[Mirek]

For me it is Dmack letters.

No, it looks like Pirelli from the pattern.

[danon]

No, it looks like Pirelli from the pattern.

... black, round?

[Andre Oliveira]

No, it looks like Pirelli from the pattern.

White and red letters

1049

[AMSS]

White and red letters

1049

Have a look at this picture on M-sports Facebook page, it`s definately Pirelli, or Dmack has copied Pirellis pattern for next year... :)

[Mirek]

White and red letters

I have seen a lot of tyres with wrong labels in my life (often in purpose) but I have never seen wrong pattern on the correct tyre :p Look at what AMSS posted. The pattern is Pirelli.

[Maui J.]

Thought this could be of interest. Not WRC, but maybe the future?

Chinese manufacturer BYD to enter FIA sanctioned APRC event in hybrid car.

http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home/other-news/10648-young-debuts-new-hybrid-in-china-in-a-world-first

BYD on Wikipedia for more info. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Auto

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Matt Wilson: Back in this awesome thing today! https://t.co/onutTkk01Q

[EstWRC]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125617/breen-deserves-2017-drive--citroen-boss


i wonder who the other drivers are besides Breen, Lefebvre and Neuville? i think Suninen's manager said that their goal is Citroen so maybe he is one of the 10 drivers.

[Simmi]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125617/breen-deserves-2017-drive--citroen-boss


i wonder who the other drivers are besides Breen, Lefebvre and Neuville? i think Suninen's manager said that their goal is Citroen so maybe he is one of the 10 drivers.

There's no way you can have a list of 10 available drivers without Suninen on there. Like Matton says, there simply aren't that many guys available.

At a guess: Neuville, Breen, Lefebvre, Tanak, Lappi, Suninen, Tidemand, Evans, Ostberg, Sordo (too late I think),

[EstWRC]

Yeah i think Sordo is staying with Hyundai. Ostberg's score is pretty low at the moment. So that leaves just Neuville, Breen, Lefebvre, Tanak, Lappi, Suninen, Tidemand, Evans. Basically the same drivers are also battling for Toyota seat except Breen and Lefebvre.

Gonna be interesting.

[EightGear]

I don't think Citroen will consider Sordo again for a 3rd stint.

[dimviii]

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[Mirek]

A quick happy end


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[Jack4688`]

Is it just me or does a 'short'list of 10 sound ridiculous? If I were Yves Matton I'd either be waiting to see if Lafevbre can match Breen's Finland performance at some point or, if not, then take the pressure of Breen and tell him he's earned a 2017 seat. It just a waste of time thinking to yourself there are nine other guys out there that I want to consider and would any of them have got a podium in Finland last time out????

[Lundefaret]

Is it just me or does a 'short'list of 10 sound ridiculous? If I were Yves Matton I'd either be waiting to see if Lafevbre can match Breen's Finland performance at some point or, if not, then take the pressure of Breen and tell him he's earned a 2017 seat. It just a waste of time thinking to yourself there are nine other guys out there that I want to consider and would any of them have got a podium in Finland last time out????

I dont think its that easy Jack4688.
Matton is in the same situation as Mäkinen, in that he needs to check with the factory what the strategy is/will be for the 2017 season - and beyond. And here we are talking about the marketing strategy, since every factory rally effort is a prolonged arm of the marketing department.
So for Matton, the questions will be:

1) Drivers championship or Manufacturer championship or both?
- If the main goal (not normal in Citroën) is the drivers championhsip, then they could have Meeke handle that, and this would open up for a younger, more inexperienced driver in the second seat. (Breen, Levfebre, Tanak, Sunninen, Lappi, Tideman, etc etc.)
- If the manufaturer championship is the aim, he wants to combine Meeke with an experienced driver that can go about collecting points in as many rallies as possible. Then the list is something like:
Neuville, Sordo, Østberg

2) How important are the nationality of the driver(s)?
- Would it be feasible that the marketing departement will allow an all Irish team?
- Would they want a French driver (Levefebre) or a French speaking one (Neuville?)

I think this is why its totally understandable that Matton has as many as 10 drivers on his list, and also I the answer to these questions is needed before he makes up his mind.

The same goes for Tommi: What is the aim for 2017, and 2018? How much risk do they want to take, do they want results from the first rally, or do they want to build for the future - etc etc :)

[Mintexmemory]

I dont think its that easy Jack4688.
Matton is in the same situation as Mäkinen, in that he needs to check with the factory what the strategy is/will be for the 2017 season - and beyond. And here we are talking about the marketing strategy, since every factory rally effort is a prolonged arm of the marketing department.
So for Matton, the questions will be:

1) Drivers championship or Manufacturer championship or both?
- If the main goal (not normal in Citroën) is the drivers championhsip, then they could have Meeke handle that, and this would open up for a younger, more inexperienced driver in the second seat. (Breen, Levfebre, Tanak, Sunninen, Lappi, Tideman, etc etc.)
- If the manufaturer championship is the aim, he wants to combine Meeke with an experienced driver that can go about collecting points in as many rallies as possible. Then the list is something like:
Neuville, Sordo, Østberg

2) How important are the nationality of the driver(s)?
- Would it be feasible that the marketing departement will allow an all Irish team?
- Would they want a French driver (Levefebre) or a French speaking one (Neuville?)

I think this is why its totally understandable that Matton has as many as 10 drivers on his list, and also I the answer to these questions is needed before he makes up his mind.

The same goes for Tommi: What is the aim for 2017, and 2018? How much risk do they want to take, do they want results from the first rally, or do they want to build for the future - etc etc :)

Very succinct Mr L - I'd argue that Neuville is not consistent enough to be either a points gathering tortoise or a WDC winning hare. Ostberg will get you points or maybe does under the current team set ups but maybe not so good if the opposition becomes tougher.
I think 'french' is very important and cannot be underestimated, which is why Lefebvre is being given the chances he is receiving. However, a winning combination that motivates all the support members of the team cannot be under-estimated and boy were the mechanics happy last weekend to be tasting champagne again!

[AndyRAC]

Really, it should be fairly simple. Pick the best drivers available, regardless of nationality. Good results bring the publicity and marketing opportunities. However, it doesn't always work like that.

Ideally, the 2nd Citroen driver should be pretty experienced on all all WRC events, in a WRCar - which is were both Breen & Lefebvre are possibly lacking. If you're going to take on VW in the Manufacturers championship, you need to be scoring heavy points from the start.

[aykutbilir]

for manufacturer championship Loeb team up with perfect silent partner Sordo for years he was young fast and reliable..
Most of the "experinced" drivers are not reliable as my opinion


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[Rallyper]

So Sordo to Citroen, maybe. Who replaces him? Neuville maybe to Toyota. Who replaces him? Opens for Ostberg imho. (just my thoughts)

[Simmi]

So Sordo to Citroen, maybe. Who replaces him? Neuville maybe to Toyota. Who replaces him? Opens for Ostberg imho. (just my thoughts)

Well word is that Sordo signed a new two-year deal in Poland taking him to the end of 2018 with Hyundai. So it would appear he's off the table. Like Lundefaret said there's lots of factors they need to take into account.

For sure if they went "best available" money no object then you'd pair Meeke with Neuville. But as we've seen many times in the past, having two big-name drivers doesn't always add up to success.

I'm massively biased but I'd love to see Meeke paired with Breen, then give Lefebvre as many outings as they can afford alongside Al-Qassimi when the third car arrives. He's still so early in his development that he'd benefit from time in the third car.

[Lundefaret]

Very succinct Mr L - I'd argue that Neuville is not consistent enough to be either a points gathering tortoise or a WDC winning hare. Ostberg will get you points or maybe does under the current team set ups but maybe not so good if the opposition becomes tougher.
I think 'french' is very important and cannot be underestimated, which is why Lefebvre is being given the chances he is receiving. However, a winning combination that motivates all the support members of the team cannot be under-estimated and boy were the mechanics happy last weekend to be tasting champagne again!

I had to look up the word succinct, and then when I got the Norwegian transalation I had to look up that too, so maybe not so succinct after all ;)

[Rally Power]

- If the main goal (not normal in Citroën) is the drivers championhsip,


I just don't agree with that one. Apart from 03, when Loeb was asked to sacrifice his personal chances for the manus title, the Citroen dominance was clearly a Loebcentric one. Until Ogier, the team 2nd driver choice never was the strongest one.

It's true that Matton already pointed the interest to form a powerful squad and fight for the manus title (he said something like not waste the 2nd car to keep forming young drivers) but maybe Meeke's outstanding exhibitions can make him think otherwise, and promote the Brit to an undisputed number one status, like in Loeb's days.

Btw, I'm probably wrong, but since Portugal Rally I beggan to believe that Neuville will stay at Hyundai...

[br21]

Some time ago Citroen was pushing for Lefebvre as second driver, Matton was pushing for Neuville. Now after Finland I don't know.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Wait and see guys, wait and see.

All of your thoughts amd opinions on the 2017 line-ups wont change anything.

Let's enjoy 2016 first.

[dimviii]

RT @RallyingUK: MICHELIN MOTORSPORT: @Michelin_Sport to introduce Pilot Sport FW2 WRC rain tyre. @OfficialWRC #WRC

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[dimviii]

Hayden Paddon ‏@HaydenPaddon 6 Αυγ

We will be back!!! So happy to return to Rally Legend this year and do more of this #sideways 6-9 October @hmirally

[Mirek]

RT @RallyingUK: MICHELIN MOTORSPORT: @Michelin_Sport to introduce Pilot Sport FW2 WRC rain tyre. @OfficialWRC #WRC

Return of specific rain tyres into the rules?

[EstWRC]

Heard some very interesting stories about next year line-ups over the weekend. There could be some really interesting ones if it all comes true or if the teams or drivers choose those ways.

We may have one very fast line-up in one team next year!

[MM WRC]

Heard some very interesting stories about next year line-ups over the weekend. There could be some really interesting ones if it all comes true or if the teams or drivers choose those ways.

We may have one very fast line-up in one team next year!

Apart from VW? :D I really hope so. But that would probably be Citroen's. Cannot be Ford, Hyundai or Toyota, all those have too slow drivers already:D. So my guess is that Neuville will go to Citroen. That would also eliminate Hyundai from the manufacturers' title fight - Paddon isn't fast enough on tarmac and Sordo not on gravel.

Or Tänak would join Meeke? I'd count on Neuville anyway.

[EstWRC]

im not gonna say any names or teams because it is all just stories/rumors and there's a lot of ifs and so on but it was very interesting for me :)

Regarding Citroen i agree too with some here that Citroen definitely wants an French driver, in that sense Lefebvre has a lot more chance but Breen has a lot more potential IMO.

[Mintexmemory]

Paddon isn't fast enough on tarmac Not necessarily true and just as good an all-round driver as Neuville, and a better developer (if the Hyundai camp rumours are to be believed).

[EightGear]

im not gonna say any names or teams because it is all just stories/rumors and there's a lot of ifs and so on but it was very interesting for me :)


That's all we're doing anyway, rumours and ifs and buts are what makes the fun!

So, hurry up with those stories. :)

[Simmi]

Yeah the forum is already quiet enough as it is - let alone if people stop speculating.

[dimviii]

im not gonna say any names or teams because it is all just stories/rumors and there's a lot of ifs and so on but it was very interesting for me :)

Regarding Citroen i agree too with some here that Citroen definitely wants an French driver, in that sense Lefebvre has a lot more chance but Breen has a lot more potential IMO.

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally

Hearing that @EsapekkaLappi tested the @TOYOTA_GR Yaris today. Also that @RovanperaRacing was testing also. Both only managed a few kms

[EstWRC]

Dunno where is Colin taking this...i didnt hear anything this at all but im not saying he isnt right.

[dimviii]

what happened wih Petter?

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg

Sad to see @Petter_Solberg brought to hospital after a fantastic race weekend in Canada �� Fingers crossed you'll be back in no time! #WRX

[MartijnS]

After the race Marklund crashed into him from the back.

[Simmi]

what happened wih Petter?

Mads Østberg ‏@MadsOstberg

Sad to see @Petter_Solberg brought to hospital after a fantastic race weekend in Canada �� Fingers crossed you'll be back in no time! #WRX

He got rear ended just after the chequered flag in the WorldRX final in Canada. Gone to hospital for checks.

[Simmi]

Dunno where is Colin taking this...i didnt hear anything this at all but im not saying he isnt right.

You working for Toyota now? ;)

I believe young Kalle has already been in the car? Shaking down a few bits. Surely after Finland Lappi is nailed on for a seat, and if he's been in the car then he;s a massive step closer.

[Mariusz]

I dont think its that easy Jack4688.
Matton is in the same situation as Mäkinen, in that he needs to check with the factory what the strategy is/will be for the 2017 season - and beyond. And here we are talking about the marketing strategy, since every factory rally effort is a prolonged arm of the marketing department.
So for Matton, the questions will be:

1) Drivers championship or Manufacturer championship or both?
- If the main goal (not normal in Citroën) is the drivers championhsip, then they could have Meeke handle that, and this would open up for a younger, more inexperienced driver in the second seat. (Breen, Levfebre, Tanak, Sunninen, Lappi, Tideman, etc etc.)
- If the manufaturer championship is the aim, he wants to combine Meeke with an experienced driver that can go about collecting points in as many rallies as possible. Then the list is something like:
Neuville, Sordo, Østberg

2) How important are the nationality of the driver(s)?
- Would it be feasible that the marketing departement will allow an all Irish team?
- Would they want a French driver (Levefebre) or a French speaking one (Neuville?)

I think this is why its totally understandable that Matton has as many as 10 drivers on his list, and also I the answer to these questions is needed before he makes up his mind.

The same goes for Tommi: What is the aim for 2017, and 2018? How much risk do they want to take, do they want results from the first rally, or do they want to build for the future - etc etc :)

There should be one more
3) or 1.5) If FIA changes the manufacturer points scoring rules so the best 2 of 3 will score points then most of the young guns can actually forget about having a factory seat. In this case the third car couldn't be driven by anybody inexperienced if a team wants to maximize its chances.

[Simmi]

There should be one more
3) or 1.5) If FIA changes the manufacturer points scoring rules so the best 2 of 3 will score points then most of the young guns can actually forget about having a factory seat. In this case the third car couldn't be driven by anybody inexperienced if a team wants to maximize its chances.

Given a couple of teams are talking about running two cars I think we have to assume this rumoured rule isn't happening.

And even if it did - where are these 15 experienced and quick WRC drivers? I count 10 or 11 max. Same as where are all these tarmac specialists Capito was so worried about? It's 2016.

[dimviii]

Return of specific rain tyres into the rules?

A NEW MICHELIN WET-WEATHER TYRE DESIGNED FOR IMPROVED SAFETY IN ADVERSE CONDITIONS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO FIA WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP COMPETITORS FOR THE FIRST TIME AT NEXT WEEKEND’S ADAC RALLYE DEUTSCHLAND (18 - 21 AUGUST).

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Following calls from drivers, Michelin has developed the Pilot Sport FW2 (Full Wet 2) to combat aquaplaning on WRC asphalt rounds in the event of heavy rain.

The key feature of this second-generation version of Michelin’s wet-weather tyre is its specific, heavily-grooved and symmetrical 18-inch tread pattern with channels that clear water to the sides. This provides enhanced grip and traction, both in a straight line and when cornering.

The French firm’s WRC programme manager Jacques Morelli explained: “The clearance capacity of the Michelin Pilot Sport FW2 marks an improvement over that of the Michelin Pilot Sport H5/S5. Thanks to its narrower tread compared with the Michelin Pilot Sport H5 and S5 and its deeper grooves, the contact patch has been doubled in heavy rain.”

The new tyre is intended for extreme conditions only, and teams will be restricted to an allocation of eight tyres per car per rally. It will be limited to sealed-surface events, with ADAC Rallye Deutschland followed consecutively in 2016 by Rally China-Beijing (8 - 11 September), Tour de Corse - Rallye de France (29 September – 2 October) and the part-asphalt RallyRACC Catalunya - Rally de España (13 - 16 October).

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/august-2016/new-michelin-tyre/page/3792--12-12-.html

[Mirek]

A NEW MICHELIN WET-WEATHER TYRE DESIGNED FOR IMPROVED SAFETY IN ADVERSE CONDITIONS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO FIA WORLD RALLY CHAMPIONSHIP COMPETITORS FOR THE FIRST TIME AT NEXT WEEKEND’S ADAC RALLYE DEUTSCHLAND (18 - 21 AUGUST).

What an irony considering the reasoning behind the removal of rain tyres few years a go...

[EightGear]

Episode 28.


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125641/vw-questions-value-of-meeke-finland-win

[Simmi]

Classy guy is Jost.

A better reply from Meeke would have been "See you next Tuesday!" Although that might have been lost in translation.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

He's correct but it doesnt need to be said in such a way after every rally.

Three Championships and a 4th on the way but he still wont show a bit of sportsmanship.

He should at least acknowledge that the current road order has given fans a bit of variety on the gravel events, which the WRC sorely needed...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

krismeeke.com ‏@krismeeke
https://twitter.com/autosport/status/762671309843271680 …

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpWR1-NWYAASsuO.jpg

:D

[Lundefaret]

Episode 28.


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125641/vw-questions-value-of-meeke-finland-win

This is off course politics, and Capito is running Ogiers errands, but you would think a man like Capito would be a bit more elegant in his statements.
Sweeping is definitely a factor, no two ways about it, and in my analysis I have Latvala as the winner if all started on same grip level. But Meeke still has to drive every stage, do a fantastic Ouninpohja, and that with only a part program this year, and less experience than many of his competitors. So its not like this victory was a case of just showing up, just look at Tänak.

I think rallying, and scociety in general, should be about the opportunity to speak your meaning, but to say something like that Meeke should not enjoy his win, hmmm... If that is really what he said, I think that is a non clever way to communicate as the boss of a great sports team.

What about Latvala in Mexico? Following his resent logic Capito should then have gone out saying that Jari Matti shouldn't enjoy his win (like Ogier said).
I have a feeling that there is a certain French driver that is voicing his opinion in no uncertain terms whitin the team, and threatens to quit if he doesnt get his way.

[EightGear]

Exactly, he's making a fair point but his words are very poorly chosen.

Saying Meeke would 'look like an idiot' if he finished 2nd is completely unnecessary.

[Munkvy]

So when Ogier wins in Germany from first on the road, will he say it has no value and Ogier shouldn't feel like he deserved it, as he had the best conditions and therefore an unfair advantage?

[focus206]

He's just a kid making his childish statements, we shouln't even bother with him, hopefully he'll be gone rather soon...

[Rallyper]

So what we do know, regarding silly season, for sure is that Meeke not going to VW in 2017.

[pantealex]

So what we do know, regarding silly season, for sure is that Meeke not going to VW in 2017.

and Ogier not in Citroen ;)

[tomhlord]

When is he going? It's taking forever...

[dimviii]

citroen fan trolling Capito at twitter

Fredrik Gustavsson ‏@F_Gustavsson

Good morning WRC friends.
If you feel like a complete idiot today, give thumbs up���� #WRC

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpZnTN_XYAAyczl.jpg

[N.O.T]

When is that fucking loser going to join his ladyboy friends in F1 ?

[MM WRC]

So when Ogier wins in Germany from first on the road, will he say it has no value and Ogier shouldn't feel like he deserved it, as he had the best conditions and therefore an unfair advantage?
And if (I think when) Ogier doesn't win in Germany, I wonder what is Capito going to tell us then?

There's no reason to blame the road order if Ogier doesn't win the afternoon stages.

[EightGear]

And if (I think when) Ogier doesn't win in Germany, I wonder what is Capito going to tell us then?

There's no reason to blame the road order if Ogier doesn't win the afternoon stages.
But the yoghurt pots are taking very different lines!

[kirungi okwogera]

But the yoghurt pots are taking very different lines!

If only there were some way that Capito could satisfactorily manage a race team without all these awful unfair things happening.

Like if there was a running format, for example, a closed loop circuit, where slower cars are run in completely separate races and can't interfere with his guys' lines.

And it were only on a surface where running order advantages the first runner, or doesn't advantage anyone. Like tarmac. If the WRC were like THAT, he'd be happy.

Also, the format of a multi-day rally is such a hassle, and as we know from the shootout plan, he thinks that TV viewers aren't interested unless everything is at stake in a two hour timeslot on Sunday evening.

You could call it Formula something...

[Franky]

It's not just something. It is Formula Capito.

[CWJ]

I'm not fan of a 1-2-3 but I hope those guys will give some of you a decent feedback in stage times soon.

[Simmi]

Motorsport News today adding a bit more fuel to the Neuville-to-Citroen fire.

Matton us tight-lipped as always, but admits pairing Meeke and Neuville is "an option". Says they are the same profile of driver, but that he was able to manage four drivers of the same level in the WTCC. He continues to talk about a long, drawn-out process for selecting drivers

The piece also says sources close to Neuville have admitted it looks like his time with Hyundai is up.


Also regarding Citroen entries for the remainder of the year - Meeke confirms he's doing China and Corsica. But also that he'd like to do GB. Citroen at the moment look like they are taking Breen, Lefebvre and Al-Qassimi to Wales. But Meeke says he'd like to do GB to stay sharp heading into next year.

I'd also heard one of the Citroen drivers was doing Catalunya - but that isn't mentioned in the piece.

[EstWRC]

Damn, i was hoping for Tänak to Citroen...Meeke-Tänak would be hell of a fast line up!

so Abbring may get his golden chance at Hyundai, he was faster than Breen in ERC but at the moment Breen is definitely faster than him. Abbring always has so many problems at the rallies, basically every rally something with the car. It would be very interesting so how he would develop if he has a whole season. Same goes for Breen of course.

[tomhlord]

Would Hyundai use Abbring though? I'm a fan, but to me I'd like to see him in a 4th car/R5 for more rallies before the main game, while someone like Tanak is in the 3rd Hyundai. Just dreaming...

[Simmi]

Would Hyundai use Abbring though? I'm a fan, but to me I'd like to see him in a 4th car/R5 for more rallies before the main game, while someone like Tanak is in the 3rd Hyundai. Just dreaming...

Beyond M-Sport running customer cars I have a hard time seeing any manufacturer running four cars on rounds next year. For me it's got to the point with Abbring now where he really needs to be getting an expanded programme. Sporadic outings really haven't worked for him. He does seem to be an unlucky driver in general. Okay some of it is self-induced but where he's going to struggle is against someone like Breen. Look at what he's done with his three rallies with limited testing this year compared to Kevin. Although Abbring did show some nice flashes of speed in Sardinia.

If Neuville does move on I'd like to see Kevin and Seb get the third seat. Next year Paddon and Sordo will be testing the current car and the R5 will be in the hands of customers. So I'm not sure there's as much need to have a fourth driver on the books?

[dimviii]

interesting to watch where placed the r5s speed.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpfH96MUEAACCzA.jpg

[Simmi]

interesting to watch where placed the r5s speed.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CpfH96MUEAACCzA.jpg

Credit to forumer KiwiWRCFan who made this. Don't understand why people just rip stuff off all the time without crediting.

Very interesting though. Puts into context what impressive machines those R5s are.

[dimviii]

Credit to forumer KiwiWRCFan who made this. Don't understand why people just rip stuff off all the time without crediting.
.

sorry didnt know who created it.

[Thousandlakes]

R5 cars are very impressive. Lappi lost under 1 sec/km to Meeke in Rally Finland. R5 is definetely good and proper class under wrc. And more cars are coming like i20 r5. Looks good :)

[dimviii]

at some wrc rounds also s2000 cars were under 1 sec/km vs wrc cars.

[Mirek]

at some wrc rounds also s2000 cars were under 1 sec/km vs wrc cars.

Aside of engine and some details S2000 and WRC shared exactly same technical rules so it's not that surprising :)

[Thousandlakes]

Atleast next year we have more than 1 sec/km difference between wrc and wrc2. Wrc2 around 300-310 hp and wrc17 380-400hp. right?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Interesting podcast with great Kris Meeke interview on Rally Finland, Capito and the 2017 car:

Meeke is about 30 mins in...

https://www.podbean.com/media/player/avmwn-61ae91-pb?vjs=1

[N.O.T]

Wrc2 around 300-310 hp and wrc17 380-400hp. right?

no

[Eli]

Atleast next year we have more than 1 sec/km difference between wrc and wrc2. Wrc2 around 300-310 hp and wrc17 380-400hp. right?
WRC2 around 280-285 bhp and next year instead of 300-315 bhp we will have 370-380 bhp in the WRC category.

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[N.O.T]

WRC2 around 280-285 bhp and next year instead of 300-315 bhp we will have 370-380 bhp in the WRC category.

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No and No

[Eli]

No and No
my bad then

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[Thousandlakes]

Fiesta rrc in 2012 had already around 280-290 hp with 30mm restrictor. Anyway that difference between wrc17/wrc2 is going to be what it should be! could be even more :)

[Mirek]

Atleast next year we have more than 1 sec/km difference between wrc and wrc2. Wrc2 around 300-310 hp and wrc17 380-400hp. right?

Yes, approximately. I just myself expect 400+ Hp for WRC 2017.

[Jasper]

National news said @OfficialWRC Rally China will be cancelled duo to sponsor reasons. @VolkswagenRally @MSportLtd @SebOgier #WRC #Rally

[MM WRC]

Atleast next year we have more than 1 sec/km difference between wrc and wrc2. Wrc2 around 300-310 hp and wrc17 380-400hp. right?

I think R5 has less power. 300 is the maximum power for a WRC'11 (according to regulations). Correct me if I'm wrong

[Mirek]

I think R5 has less power. 300 is the maximum power for a WRC'11 (according to regulations). Correct me if I'm wrong

Yes, You are wrong. There is no limit of 300 Hp because it's not possible to control. There are other limiting features, mainly air restrictor and maximum boost limit but those don't set any line at 300 Hp. They just give conditions for the manufacturers to cope with.

The real power is mostly secret but it's more than 300 Hp for all latest R5 cars and a lot more for WRC cars. I believe even latest S2000 cars reached 300 Hp but with a lot less torque.

In case of WRC cars I know for sure only the power of really old cars but even Fabia WRC ten years a go had 340 Hp.

[TWRC]

Yes, You are wrong. There is no limit of 300 Hp because it's not possible to control. There are other limiting features, mainly air restrictor and maximum boost limit but those don't set any line at 300 Hp. They just give conditions for the manufacturers to cope with.

The real power is mostly secret but it's more than 300 Hp for all latest R5 cars and a lot more for WRC cars. I believe even latest S2000 cars reached 300 Hp but with a lot less torque.

In case of WRC cars I know for sure only the power of really old cars but even Fabia WRC ten years a go had 340 Hp.
The latest evolution of the 207 S2000 engine is quoted to have 309-311 HP. Also, I heard that the Lancer Evo WRC had 351 HP, but I'm not sure if that's true.

[Thousandlakes]

During rally Finland there was rumour that factory fabia R5 had 310 hp. Biggest "secret" in wrc. Hp levels. Heh ;) they should do official and open dyno before every rally ;)

[EstWRC]

Hyundai WRC grip problems can't be fixed until 2017 car arrives http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/125669/hyundai-problems-cant-be-fixed-until-2017

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Yes, You are wrong. There is no limit of 300 Hp because it's not possible to control. There are other limiting features, mainly air restrictor and maximum boost limit but those don't set any line at 300 Hp. They just give conditions for the manufacturers to cope with.

The real power is mostly secret but it's more than 300 Hp for all latest R5 cars and a lot more for WRC cars. I believe even latest S2000 cars reached 300 Hp but with a lot less torque.

In case of WRC cars I know for sure only the power of really old cars but even Fabia WRC ten years a go had 340 Hp.
Just like Super GT... ;)

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[macebig]

Under A8 regulations I have seen a Ford 2.0 liter WRC engine (made by Mountune circa 2005) ,hit 370 hp on dyno.

[shaitan]

Under A8 regulations I have seen a Ford 2.0 liter WRC engine (made by Mountune circa 2005) ,hit 370 hp on dyno.
Seems 370hp is not reliable. Look the 2.0T A8 WRC and 1.6T WTCC engines, clearly 1.6T WTCC have much more power than WRC's. They even claimed that is only around 380HP.

[itix]

Seems 370hp is not reliable. Look the 2.0T A8 WRC and 1.6T WTCC engines, clearly 1.6T WTCC have much more power than WRC's. They even claimed that is only around 380HP.
The WTCC run bigger restrictors, more or less the formula of WRC next year.

[Mirek]

Under A8 regulations I have seen a Ford 2.0 liter WRC engine (made by Mountune circa 2005) ,hit 370 hp on dyno.


Seems 370hp is not reliable. Look the 2.0T A8 WRC and 1.6T WTCC engines, clearly 1.6T WTCC have much more power than WRC's. They even claimed that is only around 380HP.

It always depends if the dyno is properly set but 370 Hp for Focus WRC 08 would be IMO quite realistic figure. For Focus 05 I don't think so.

I am quite sure that WTCC 1.6T with 36 mm restrictor have over 400 Hp.

[shaitan]

It always depends if the dyno is properly set but 370 Hp for Focus WRC 08 would be IMO quite realistic figure. For Focus 05 I don't think so.

I am quite sure that WTCC 1.6T with 36 mm restrictor have over 400 Hp.

Mirek， you seems always not believe factories' figure. It's hard to believe current WTCC can reach 400HP because they seemed very slow compared with other touring/GT cars.

When we look Nurburgring's lap time, TC1 car has a huge gap to FIA GT3 cars' even the GT3 R only has 500HP.

[cali]

Lap times are not always about hp figures

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[shaitan]

Lap times are not always about hp figures

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Yes, it's true. Just a simple compare.

[Mirek]

Mirek， you seems always not believe factories' figure. It's hard to believe current WTCC can reach 400HP because they seemed very slow compared with other touring/GT cars.

When we look Nurburgring's lap time, TC1 car has a huge gap to FIA GT3 cars' even the GT3 R only has 500HP.

I don't believe factory figures because the figures I know are completely different than what is claimed. There are cars I am quite sure about, for example Octavia WRC Evo II 320 Hp, Fabia WRC 07 340 Hp, Corolla WRC 320 Hp, Fiesta R5 300-305 Hp. I heard from several sources that Focus 08 had 370 Hp but I don't know that for sure.

I guess that current WRC 1.6T with 33 mm restrictor may have around 340 Hp. 36 mm restrictor gives approximately 20% more air which could roughly give a bit over 400 Hp. That's of course just my guessing but I find hard to believe that current WRC have less than 30 Hp advantage over R5 cars (Fiesta isn't the strongest anyway).

[TheFlyingTuga]

I don't believe factory figures because the figures I know are completely different than what is claimed. There are cars I am quite sure about, for example Octavia WRC Evo II 320 Hp, Fabia WRC 07 340 Hp, Corolla WRC 320 Hp, Fiesta R5 300-305 Hp. I heard from several sources that Focus 08 had 370 Hp but I don't know that for sure.

I guess that current WRC 1.6T with 33 mm restrictor may have around 340 Hp. 36 mm restrictor gives approximately 20% more air which could roughly give a bit over 400 Hp. That's of course just my guessing but I find hard to believe that current WRC have less than 30 Hp advantage over R5 cars (Fiesta isn't the strongest anyway).

As far as I know, Fiesta R5 had 312bhp before the EVO. A good Evo IX in Gr.N for it's 309bhp. But with Portugal Gr.P rules you can have a Evo VII with 340bhp easily. The 300 bhp announced are just ridiculous

[Mirek]

As far as I know, Fiesta R5 had 312bhp before the EVO.

Definitely not. Only if the dyno was wrongly set. Fiesta R5 before Evo had less than 300 Hp.

[Simmi]

Man we really need some more news and rumours to emerge...

[danon]

^--->>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhlp4xMfAyU <---

http://s5.postimg.org/9txqr5xmv/Rumours.jpg

[GravelBen]

Man we really need some more news and rumours to emerge...

Here's a rumour... Abbring to VW for 2017.

[danon]

good sense of humour...

[AL14]

Some news from a sardinian newspapaper:

1) The alternative location in the mainland is not ready yet and require another year. The Promoter do not want to wait and maybe Sardinia can host the rally one more year. Or in alternative Italy will lose the slot for just one year, or lose it forever.

2)Main candidates to take italian slot should be Canada and Japan

3) Also Poland is going to lose the slot because of safety reasons and less money from Lotos.

4) There is a possibility that events can be shortened in future, with shakedown on friday morning and the start of the rally in the afternoon to cut costs.

[denkimi]

Some news from a sardinian newspapaper:

1) The alternative location in the mainland is not ready yet and require another year. The Promoter do not want to wait and maybe Sardinia can host the rally one more year. Or in alternative Italy will lose the slot for just one year, or lose it forever.

2)Main candidates to take italian slot should be Canada and Japan

3) Also Poland is going to lose the slot because of safety reasons and less money from Lotos.

4) There is a possibility that events can be shortened in future, with shakedown on friday morning and the start of the rally in the afternoon to cut costs.

if they do shakedown on friday they will not have time to repair the car if anything goes wrong, so i doubt they'll do that.

[Hartusvuori]

if they do shakedown on friday they will not have time to repair the car if anything goes wrong, so i doubt they'll do that.

There has been cases of early morning shakedown and the event starting properly in the afternoon, at least Finland 2011. But in general I'm opposed to the idea of shortening the events. It'd be better if all events had 2-4 proper stages on Thursday afternoons/evenings after shakedown in the morning.

[Franky]

With that shortening there would be like 1,75 days of rallying.

[AL14]

I think it would be stupid to think about cost cutting with so many nation willing to host wrc rallys with the actual format. Cost cutting should be an affair of national and village events.

[N.O.T]

village events.

I have the copyright for that word kid, you have to pay.

[tc10a]

4) There is a possibility that events can be shortened in future, with shakedown on friday morning and the start of the rally in the afternoon to cut costs.

Rally Acropolis 2013 had this kind of itinerary and it worked very well.
http://www.ewrc-results.com/harmonogram.php?e=6536&t=Acropolis-Rally-2013

[N.O.T]

Finland also had a 2 days format a few years back.

[itix]

I have the copyright for that word kid, you have to pay.

Recently you have monopoly on the word "kid", that's for sure... seems to be all the rage this autumn.

[danon]

^
^
https://media.giphy.com/media/reJOGQ43nNeGk/giphy.gif

[N.O.T]

Recently you have monopoly on the word "kid", that's for sure... seems to be all the rage this autumn.

No, i just think it adds more credit to what i say.

Its like the wise old master gives advice to younger lesser people... got it kid ?

[AL14]

I have the copyright for that word kid, you have to pay.
Really? I have to admit it is a very good word to describe them. Congrats. As for the money I think we are even since you called me kid more than once and I have just decided to forgive you.

[Mk2 RS2000]

No, i just think it adds more credit to what i say.

Its like the wise old master gives advice to younger lesser people... got it kid ?

Sorry, in rallying the nickname Mr Miyagi is all ready taken by John Kennard.

[ChassisFlex]

2)Main candidates to take italian slot should be Canada

That's an interesting idea, but I don't think it would happen :(

In fact, as of last year, our national governing body for rally removed the phrasing in its yearly mission statement/objectives to get the sport to a point where a WRC round could be hosted, as it is not viewed as a priority at this time.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be the first to help or get into a Fiesta R2 to compete in the event.

As for a time slot, that would put the timeline directly inline with the Rocky Mountain Rally (beginning of June), my "home" event. While that would be amazing, I don't know if the event has WRC caliber roads. New roads are being found all the time though as the event is new to the area. Its a resort town, so the amenities are there to host large amounts of people.

Might need to put a bug in the ear of the event organizer haha.

[Morte66]

I'd love another snow rally. I'm sure Canada could sort something out.

[Hartusvuori]

I have the copyright for that word kid, you have to pay.

Try harder. Village events isn't copyrighted to you. It even have Finnish equalivent, a fact which I'm sure will make you letting go from it voluntarily. However, what you have a copyright for sure is "village idiot events". No one else would use that.

[GravelBen]

Do you mean N.O.T has copyright on being a village idiot?

[AndyRAC]

Some news from a sardinian newspapaper:

1) The alternative location in the mainland is not ready yet and require another year. The Promoter do not want to wait and maybe Sardinia can host the rally one more year. Or in alternative Italy will lose the slot for just one year, or lose it forever.

2)Main candidates to take italian slot should be Canada and Japan

3) Also Poland is going to lose the slot because of safety reasons and less money from Lotos.

4) There is a possibility that events can be shortened in future, with shakedown on friday morning and the start of the rally in the afternoon to cut costs.

A lot of these 'issues' are down to the Promoter not doing their job; i;e actually promoting the sport.

If events are more visible, there is more chance of raising proper sponsorship, rather than the 'hand-outs' from regional/ tourist boards.

There is only 1 place that the Italian round of the WRC should be and that is Sanremo. Why this event can't even get a place on the ERC just baffles me; why can't they get any money, yet Sardinia can?

Poland I think is the 2nd oldest rally, and so has the history; sadly, they moved to gravel so they could get in the WRC - another bit of short sightedness from the FiA.

Finally, shortening events? Really?? Sorry, but the sport has been dumbed down enough.....no more! Sunday's are already a joke; either get rid of them or increase the mileage on the final day. I keep saying it but the WRC should be a mixture of event lengths; all being the same doesn't work. Some events need to be longer 3/4 full days; e;g Monte, RallyGB. Whereas some would suit a 2 day event.

Before long, we'll end up with 1 day events - basically WorldRX.....

[AL14]

Try harder. Village events isn't copyrighted to you. It even have Finnish equalivent, a fact which I'm sure will make you letting go from it voluntarily. However, what you have a copyright for sure is "village idiot events". No one else would use that.
I was pretty sure it was a common phrase. Lol.

[janvanvurpa]

I'd love another snow rally. I'm sure Canada could sort something out.
You may be sure but I am sure they can't..
They have a fun series and I have lots of friends and customers in Canada but it is really just like America in important respects: a few millionaires play with fancy Subarus at the top, on guy is 4 or 5 minutes ahead in their short 170 km SS events and below them just friendly guys struggling to make noise...

NO FOUNDATION....(although much better in that respect than USA)

No foundation, very short on manpower, very short on entries, NO homologated cars to fill the field so what are you going to have for a WRC start list? 13 cars? 15?

Sorry.

[Mk2 RS2000]

why can't they get any money, yet Sardinia can?
.....

Mafia love Sardinia

[AL14]

Mafia love Sardinia
Is this serious or a joke?

[Franky]

I don't understand what's the problem some here have with the rally being in Sardinia.

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Mafia love Sardinia
I thought Mafia love Sicily..

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[AndyRAC]

I don't understand what's the problem some here have with the rally being in Sardinia.

It's a nice event, at a nice time of the year, nice scenery, etc

But, it's yet another dry, dusty gravel event after Mexico, Argentina, Portugal, etc..... there's far too many similar events - and back to back.

[N.O.T]

It's a nice event, at a nice time of the year, nice scenery, etc

But, it's yet another dry, dusty gravel event after Mexico, Argentina, Portugal, etc..... there's far too many similar events - and back to back.

Argentina Mexico and Sardinia are similar ?

Why not try Tennis instead ?

[Zeakiwi]

Would it still be possible to have a WRC gravel rally in Tuscany/ Italy in late September/ early October?
https://youtu.be/44nIo1qSGiE

[itix]

Would it still be possible to have a WRC gravel rally in Tuscany/ Italy in late September/ early October?
From pure interest in rallying, Tuscany makes the most amount of sense to me.

From a heritage standpoint San Remo makes the most amount of sense...

Neither of them are probably feasible since italy is forever drowned in the shit Marsh that is F1 (if we ignore even more shitty league football for a second).

[GigiGalliNo1]

Sousa retires from Rallying entirely...

http://www.rallysportmag.com.au/home/wrc/10672-bernardo-sousa-retires-from-rallying

[MM WRC]

I think replacing Italy would be good for the sport. Right now there are Monte, Portugal, Sardinia, Corsica and Catalunya around the Mediterranean, and this is a world championship series. Five events out of ten European rounds around that sea would be too much for even European championship.

[Franky]

I think replacing Italy would be good for the sport. Right now there are Monte, Portugal, Sardinia, Corsica and Catalunya around the Mediterranean, and this is a world championship series. Five events out of ten European rounds around that sea would be too much for even European championship.

And Finland, Sweden, Poland and Germany are on the coast of Baltic Sea.

Main public interest for rallying is in Europe, so that is why it's so mush centred here. You can have a WRC event in Mongolia, but who would care?

[focus206]

I think replacing Italy would be good for the sport. Right now there are Monte, Portugal, Sardinia, Corsica and Catalunya around the Mediterranean, and this is a world championship series. Five events out of ten European rounds around that sea would be too much for even European championship.

A "world championship" does not only mean that it has events around the world, but that it also has the best events. While I agree that there might be events worthy of replacing Sardinia, I'd rather have four events (Portugal is not on the Mediterranean, is it?) around that sea than events in India, Korea and who knows where, with all due respect for those countries. If it was for me, Mexico would have been long gone after spectators throwing rocks on cars for a couple of years some time ago, but it was kept because it's in North America...

[TheFlyingTuga]

Portugal is not on the Mediterranean, is it?

Well, I guess since the rally it's held in the North it's not a mediterranean event anymore. But I do agree, when the event was held in Algarve (South) the roads were similar to what you find in Sardinia or Spain (the gravel stages) or Greece. Ideal, should be Italy to held a pure tarmac event around the Alpes mountains and Spain just keep everything in tarmac as well. I would like to see the Acropolis Rally back in the WRC.

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally

Some real tosh written about Capito's comments after Finland. As always @davidevansrally's assessment is spot on

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cp5qiHfXYAAh3Cg.jpg:large

[Rallyper]

And Finland, Sweden, Poland and Germany are on the coast of Baltic Sea.

Main public interest for rallying is in Europe, so that is why it's so mush centred here. You can have a WRC event in Mongolia, but who would care?

However different seasons and therefore three different surfaces.

[Mintexmemory]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally

Some real tosh written about Capito's comments after Finland. As always @davidevansrally's assessment is spot on

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cp5qiHfXYAAh3Cg.jpg:large
Which still doesn't explain how subservient Latvala's performance was!

[Jack4688`]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally

Some real tosh written about Capito's comments after Finland. As always @davidevansrally's assessment is spot on

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cp5qiHfXYAAh3Cg.jpg:large

If that imbecile David Evans isn't writing the bleeding obvious thinking he's stumbled upon some big secret no one else has already worked out then he's just writing complete wank like "That makes him a pretty good cup of coffee..." No one has ever uttered that phrase before. To all of you for whom English is not their first language that isn't an example of British-English idiom, it's just a 13 year-old in a man's body who has somehow got a job as a journalist.

[Lundefaret]

My self I think its better to judge things like sweeping factor on a proper analysis rather than opinion.

[EightGear]

If that imbecile David Evans isn't writing the bleeding obvious thinking he's stumbled upon some big secret no one else has already worked out then he's just writing complete wank like "That makes him a pretty good cup of coffee..." No one has ever uttered that phrase before. To all of you for whom English is not their first language that isn't an example of British-English idiom, it's just a 13 year-old in a man's body who has somehow got a job as a journalist.
I love how every time the words 'David Evans' show up in the rallying section we're guaranteed a perfect rant from you.

I don't care about that, but it does make me wonder if he's ever done anything wrong to you (personally)?

[AL14]

My self I think its better to judge things like sweeping factor on a proper analysis rather than opinion.

If we start to reason like this a lot of people will be unemployed rather soon. That makes you somehow a bad person. :)

[Lundefaret]

Article on one of the important rally persons that move under the radar of the limelight.
Dieter Depping, test driver, VW:
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/index.php?id=1079&L=1#c62461

[EstWRC]

interview with Neuville at belgian site

https://translate.google.ee/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=et&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dhnet.be%2Fsports%2Fmoteurs%2Ft hierry-neuville-vise-l-or-en-allemagne-57af901435709a31055e5bc9&edit-text=


between the lines it seems to me that it is pretty clear the he is leaving Hyundai. Toyota and M-sport are ruled out because he wants a winning car so that leaves just Citroen and i think it will happen. Most interesting thing in this interview is this: VW, logically complete is displayed for confirmation in Finland Latvala for two years alongside Seb Ogier and Andreas Mikkelsen: "Never say there is no place ... Everything can change quickly.

An user in finnish forum (who i think is also here) has said that Neuville to Citroen and Suninen to Hyundai.

[tomhlord]

If that imbecile David Evans isn't writing the bleeding obvious thinking he's stumbled upon some big secret no one else has already worked out then he's just writing complete wank like "That makes him a pretty good cup of coffee..." No one has ever uttered that phrase before. To all of you for whom English is not their first language that isn't an example of British-English idiom, it's just a 13 year-old in a man's body who has somehow got a job as a journalist.

Wow. Set up a blog, write some words, and let us all see if you are as good.

FYI "he's just writing complete wank" isn't much better...

[Simmi]

interview with Neuville at belgian site

https://translate.google.ee/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=et&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dhnet.be%2Fsports%2Fmoteurs%2Ft hierry-neuville-vise-l-or-en-allemagne-57af901435709a31055e5bc9&edit-text=


between the lines it seems to me that it is pretty clear the he is leaving Hyundai. Toyota and M-sport are ruled out because he wants a winning car so that leaves just Citroen and i think it will happen. Most interesting thing in this interview is this: VW, logically complete is displayed for confirmation in Finland Latvala for two years alongside Seb Ogier and Andreas Mikkelsen: "Never say there is no place ... Everything can change quickly.

An user in finnish forum (who i think is also here) has said that Neuville to Citroen and Suninen to Hyundai.

Latvala's VW deal could be up at the end of next season if they don't take up their option for 2018+19. Not that that really helps Neuville at the moment.

Lappi in at Toyota. Suninen in at Hyundai would really be something. Steps in the right direction for the WRC if it happens.

[BleAivano]

A rumour on RS fb site that next year's rally will be held on 10-12 February.

https://sv-se.facebook.com/OfficialRallySweden/posts/1106100779482814


Bert Huging (https://www.facebook.com/bert.huging)
den 3 augusti kl 05:04is the date for the 2017 rally already known ? i hear it is 10-2 till 12-2 2017 anybody knows ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Jost Capito has announced Rallye Deutschland will be his final WRC rally before joining McLaren F1..

read more at https://t.co/AGepGSUkXf

[N.O.T]

Good riddance.

[Eli]

Jost Capito has announced Rallye Deutschland will be his final WRC rally before joining McLaren F1..

read more at https://t.co/AGepGSUkXf
finally...only took him forever...
Edit: took the words right out of my mouth (N.O.T)

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[BleAivano]

Some more info about Swedish Rally 2017: http://www.vf.se/sport/bilsport/rallyt-narmare-torsby-%E2%80%93-datum-inte-klart

Torsby is very likely to be the new base for the rally. SR have presented two different rally routes for the promoter and FIA.
SR's Glenn Olsson will meet with the teams in Germany this weekend, where he will present the two route alternatives for the teams

Dates (as mentioned above) is likely to be February 9th-12th

[Rallyper]

Some more info about Swedish Rally 2017: http://www.vf.se/sport/bilsport/rallyt-narmare-torsby-%E2%80%93-datum-inte-klart

Torsby is very likely to be the new base for the rally. SR have presented two different rally routes for the promoter and FIA.
SR's Glenn Olsson will meet with the teams in Germany this weekend, where he will present the two route alternatives for the teams

Dates (as mentioned above) is likely to be February 9th-12th

Likely Torsby? Is Hagfors still on the map?

[BleAivano]

Likely Torsby? Is Hagfors still on the map?

I don't know more then what the article says but according the article, the service area will be Torsby airport with Torsby as the new base for the rally.
However Glenn says that they need to have accommodation guarantees from accommodation providers in Torsby and Sunne to pull it off.

[MM WRC]

And Finland, Sweden, Poland and Germany are on the coast of Baltic Sea.

I guess you're right. But as a Finn I'd like to keep the events close to me ;).

The start positions of McLarens have lately been rather bad. So Capito will have something to complain about in the future too... Let's see if he's going to demand for F1 regulation changes... This man could even manage that ;)

[jbmarcus21]

Stephane Sarrazin entry to Tour de Corse 2016 with i20R5 => http://goo.gl/9YBJAI

[Simmi]

Stephane Sarrazin entry to Tour de Corse 2016 with i20R5 => http://goo.gl/9YBJAI

Very cool. I guess that could be the car's competition debut?

[Carbon]

One Ford guy is close to 2+1 years contract with Toyota.

[Eli]

One Ford guy is close to 2+1 years contract with Toyota.
I wonder who might that be...

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[bugwrx]

Tänak, who else ..

[onemanband]

Tänak, who else ..

Evans? :D

[EstWRC]

i think Camilli...he was already related with them :p

[EightGear]

As long as its not Ostberg.

[Simmi]

Ostberg, Tanak and Evans have all been linked with Toyota at one time or another so it could be any. Although Ostberg wasn't on the latest list Tommi gave the press - so let's see. Tanak/Lappi/Hanninen in Toyotas would be very exciting I think.

[AL14]

Why are we taking this phrase without a source or basis seriously?

[onemanband]

Why are we taking this phrase without a source or basis seriously?

Who said we are? ;)


Ostberg, Tanak and Evans have all been linked with Toyota at one time or another so it could be any. Although Ostberg wasn't on the latest list Tommi gave the press - so let's see. Tanak/Lappi/Hanninen in Toyotas would be very exciting I think.

I don't think Ostberg would get 2+1 years :D

[Simmi]

Hyundai confirm a new two-year deal with Sordo - https://twitter.com/HMSGOfficial/status/767633345585053696?lang=en

Rumours in Spanish press there is also an option for 2019 but that's not mentioned.

[moto99]

Did you know there is a hidden page with championship points on http://www.wrc.com/en/ ?
But only for WRC drivers (not for other championships like WRC 2 etc.).

[tomhlord]

Did you know there is a hidden page with championship points on http://www.wrc.com/en/ ?
But only for WRC drivers (not for other championships like WRC 2 etc.).

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc-2/results/championship/drivers/page/537-256---.html

[moto99]

Tell me how to get to the championship standings for every championship from the main page. Because I can't see it.

[EstWRC]

Mainpage - Results - Championships standings

if you want other championships you just choose from the TOP which one you want.

[moto99]

Mainpage - Results - ...

http://oi65.tinypic.com/14dq3if.jpg

And where is championship standings?

[tommeke_B]

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/live/championship-points/page/2610-294-59--.html Here you go... :)

[EstWRC]

Well, then the problem is with your browser because i clearly i have it

[N.O.T]

Mainpage - Results - ...

http://oi65.tinypic.com/14dq3if.jpg

And where is championship standings?

use a proper PC and not a pleb mobile/tablet and they are there.

http://i.imgur.com/yl1Cend.png

[Franky]

Or they could make a new site

[N.O.T]

Or they could make a new site

They cannot place an onboard camera at a proper location and you want them to make a new website ?

[AL14]

Moto99 maybe you have some block to javascript in your browser. That's why you don't see it.

[AL14]

They cannot place an onboard camera at a proper location and you want them to make a new website ?

You are wrong. Now they managed to do it. Look at this camera of Mikkelsen's car.
You can experience a rally stage like if you are a dog (or sick dog if you prefer :) ) with the head out of the window and the wind that shake your ears and cheeks.

http://i.imgur.com/WYXkBbL.png

[Franky]

They cannot place an onboard camera at a proper location and you want them to make a new website ?

But that is much easier for them to grasp than some "wrong camera position"

[moto99]

I've tested on two computers (proper PCs) in different locations with latest browsers (chrome/firefox/edge/opera) and still can't see it.

In the past they had shortened results on the main page. The new tablet friendly design is useless.

Also adds on official WRC website don't look professional. These even are not car adds or in any way related to cars, motorsport or wrc sponsors - just random adds.

[N.O.T]

But that is much easier for them to grasp than some "wrong camera position"

You speak like you are dealing with people who actually care about their product,

They do not care about it and quite likely have no idea what rallying is.

[dimviii]

Citroën, Hyundai or VW ... All avenues remain open for next year.

In the end three-year contract at Hyundai, Thierry Neuville is not yet known today that he will drive next year. "The negotiations have actually started in Finland," he confirms. "My manager took the first contact. Everyone knows we're free ..."

All options are currently still possible. Whatever ... "After several difficult years, my priority is to find myself in a competitive car capable of winning races in all fields ..."

That already eliminates a priori Ford (who no longer has real support of the manufacturer for some years) and returning Toyota: "Let's say they should be very convincing I know now recognize a structure that has the means. its ambitions ... "

VW, logically complete is displayed for confirmation in Finland Latvala for two years alongside Seb Ogier and Andreas Mikkelsen: "Never say there is no place ... Everything can change quickly."

After wiping casts, remain with the Koreans today is not necessarily exclude a track: "It's true that not work so badly with the new car but we have to see what they're up to. on. I do not have all the info ... "

Hyundai 2017 she already rolled? "I think so, but not with me ..."

The most likely solution seems to date back at Citroen alongside Kris Meeke. Yves Matton, Citroen Sport Belgian director, has never hidden his interest in Thierry. The Belgian is certainly the best option for the French manufacturer. Unless a fabulous turn of events and the return of Ogier in French. What then would release a place at VW for German Speaking ... Thierry Neuville! "We should be fixed early October," concluded the Holy Vithois.

A date corresponding with the opening of the Paris Salon, where Citroën has used to unveil its sports programs ...

http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/thierry-neuville-vise-l-or-en-allemagne-57af901435709a31055e5bc9

[Eli]

Citroën, Hyundai or VW ... All avenues remain open for next year.

In the end three-year contract at Hyundai, Thierry Neuville is not yet known today that he will drive next year. "The negotiations have actually started in Finland," he confirms. "My manager took the first contact. Everyone knows we're free ..."

All options are currently still possible. Whatever ... "After several difficult years, my priority is to find myself in a competitive car capable of winning races in all fields ..."

That already eliminates a priori Ford (who no longer has real support of the manufacturer for some years) and returning Toyota: "Let's say they should be very convincing I know now recognize a structure that has the means. its ambitions ... "

VW, logically complete is displayed for confirmation in Finland Latvala for two years alongside Seb Ogier and Andreas Mikkelsen: "Never say there is no place ... Everything can change quickly."

After wiping casts, remain with the Koreans today is not necessarily exclude a track: "It's true that not work so badly with the new car but we have to see what they're up to. on. I do not have all the info ... "

Hyundai 2017 she already rolled? "I think so, but not with me ..."

The most likely solution seems to date back at Citroen alongside Kris Meeke. Yves Matton, Citroen Sport Belgian director, has never hidden his interest in Thierry. The Belgian is certainly the best option for the French manufacturer. Unless a fabulous turn of events and the return of Ogier in French. What then would release a place at VW for German Speaking ... Thierry Neuville! "We should be fixed early October," concluded the Holy Vithois.

A date corresponding with the opening of the Paris Salon, where Citroën has used to unveil its sports programs ...

http://www.dhnet.be/sports/moteurs/thierry-neuville-vise-l-or-en-allemagne-57af901435709a31055e5bc9

sounds very intriguing, if he leaves Hyundai will Kevin Abbring will take Paddon's place in the second team or?? and will Ostberg run privately like he used to back in 2012?

[dupanton]

If Neuville really doesn't know if the 2017 Hyundai is already running, that is the best proof he's gone leave Hyundai. But maybe he just can't tell...

[EstWRC]

#AskPaddon How about the clearly faster 2017 cars & safety? Will it not be over the edge? Keeping in mind what happened last Saturday.

Hayden Paddon ‏@HaydenPaddon
Hayden Paddon Retweeted Bert Verstraete
The speed diff won't be so big that it causes concerns for safety. The cars are built strong and FIA pushing hard


@HaydenPaddon #askpaddon Scary moment for you & bad crash for @SLefebvreRallye. #WRC2017 cars are even faster! Are you worried? @OfficialWRC

Hayden Paddon ‏@HaydenPaddon
Hayden Paddon Retweeted Rally Paradise
Not at all. As drivers we understand the risks involved and personally the cars are not fast enough. More bhp = ����

[rallyfiend]

They cannot place an onboard camera at a proper location and you want them to make a new website ?

Interestingly, Paddon has just tweeted that the seats make it difficult to put the cameras in the same place in the middle as it was in the past.

I guess this is to do with the additional side head restraints. Maybe there's better clearance in some cars compared to others.

Hayden Paddon ‏@HaydenPaddon
Hayden Paddon Retweeted Jordi
On WRC+ there are several cars that now have this. It's more difficult now with the seats but I agree is betterHayden Paddon added,

Jordi @jordi_casale
@HaydenPaddon is it posible to put the con board cameras in the middle of the car? Like before... Will be much better for all

[N.O.T]

I find it hard to believe that in 2016 engineering cannot solve trivial problems like those Paddon mentions.

[Eli]

Edit:
My bad, the article was from last year.

[PLuto]

Interestingly, Paddon has just tweeted that the seats make it difficult to put the cameras in the same place in the middle as it was in the past.

I guess this is to do with the additional side head restraints. Maybe there's better clearance in some cars compared to others.

Hayden Paddon ‏@HaydenPaddon
Hayden Paddon Retweeted Jordi
On WRC+ there are several cars that now have this. It's more difficult now with the seats but I agree is betterHayden Paddon added,

Jordi @jordi_casale
@HaydenPaddon is it posible to put the con board cameras in the middle of the car? Like before... Will be much better for all

Problem is with FIA. After problem with camera of Bertelli last year (I think it was last year) they started to push to the crews in WRC and ERC to put cameras out of some places... From my point of view - another stupid decision from FIA.

[SubaruNorway]

Problem is with FIA. After problem with camera of Bertelli last year (I think it was last year) they started to push to the crews in WRC and ERC to put cameras out of some places... From my point of view - another stupid decision from FIA.

What was the problem with Bertelli?

[dimviii]

M-Sport confirm Evans will be back in WRC before end of year
M-Sport team boss Malcolm Wilson has confirmed Elfyn Evans will return to the WRC before the end of this season.

Evans said last month after Rally Finland that he had no more scheduled events in the World Rally Championship, but on the back of his success in the British Rally Championship, the Welshman secured the title on the Ulster Rally last weekend after winning, Wilson has revealed the 27-year-old will run again at the top level - albeit in WRC2.

Evans still has a chance of winning this year's WRC2 title, although Teemu Suinen is only two points behind, and Esapekka Lappi has also closed - the gap down to 13 points - after winning last weekend's Rally Deutschland. Suinen and Lappi also both have two points' scoring events left, to Evans' one.

“They'll [Evans and co-driver Craig Parry] be back in the World Rally Championship before the end of the season," Wilson confirmed.

“We just need to assess the events and determine which will give them the best shot of securing another championship this year.”

Meanwhile, Evans said he was delighted to have secured the British Rally Championship title with one event remaining.

“It feels really good to win the BRC title in style but it was a difficult event and hard to concentrate on the job in hand. The rally was really tough, probably the hardest of the season with the weather changing all the time. To win the rally and the championship is very special, especially as it was 20 years since my father was champion,” he added.

Read more at http://www.crash.net/wrc/news/232974/1/msport-confirm-evans-will-be-back-in-wrc-before-end-of-year.html#m6w9yvPJZqzxirhu.99

[N.O.T]

Evans is not good enough, but still better investment than Ostberg.

[denkimi]

I find it hard to believe that in 2016 engineering cannot solve trivial problems like those Paddon mentions.
true.

considering how small today's cameras can be, i just don't believe there is no place between the seats where they can put them.
they can fill f1 cars with camera's, but in a much more spacious car they can't find a spot to place a camera, thats just bullshit.

2cm diameter, 6 cm long, just a bit thicker than the roll cage bars:
http://stuntcams.com/shop/sony-mini-550-res-bullet-camera-br-smallest-bullet-cam-p-115.html

[Andre Oliveira]

Evans is not good enough, but still better investment than Ostberg.

Evans will compete in WRC2

[Simmi]

Evans will compete in WRC2

Who knows about next year. He certainly doesn't want to be back in WRC2. I'm sure he was hoping for a few full WRC outings this year. If Tanak does go to Toyota then we could potentially see Elfyn in that Dmack car I guess? I rate other drivers higher but he's in the top 15 drivers in the world IMO.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Corsica 2017 in the Spring! Early 2017 schedule then

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/wm/nachrichten/artikel/d/2016/08/23/fia-will-asphaltlauf-im-fruehjahr/

[Eli]

Corsica 2017 in the Spring! Early 2017 schedule then

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/wm/nachrichten/artikel/d/2016/08/23/fia-will-asphaltlauf-im-fruehjahr/

would nice to see it's 60th anniversary in say...April...

[Mintexmemory]

Corsica 2017 in the Spring! Early 2017 schedule then

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/wm/nachrichten/artikel/d/2016/08/23/fia-will-asphaltlauf-im-fruehjahr/

OK now let's say what the story really says - The FIA would like to move a tarmac round to a spring date and the magazine is saying Corsica is the obvious choice = Nothing concrete, nothing agreed. Kite flying, nothing to see here, move along please!!

[GigiGalliNo1]

I didn't know this thread was Named "News & News 100% confirmed Only"

[dimviii]

Finland's Esapekka Lappi has held talks with Toyota about a potential place in its new WRC programme next year.

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The 25-year-old underlined his position as one of the sport's hottest young talents last weekend when he won the WRC 2 category at ADAC Rallye Deutschland with the Skoda Motorsport team.

It was his second consecutive WRC 2 victory and fuelled speculation that he was ready to take the step to the sport's top level in 2017.

After the rally, Lappi acknowledged that stories linking him to Toyota's new Finland-based WRC operation had some foundation.

"There are rumours, yes. I can say that I've never driven any WRC car, but I have been in the workshop. So that is where the rumours come from, I guess. I visited the Toyota workshops." he explained.

When asked whether he was talking to Toyota about a drive next year he said: "Yes."

Asked if this would be his hope next year, Lappi replied: "It is one option, let's say."

Lappi's nonchalant attitude to his title chances in this year's WRC 2 championship only added to the sense that his future was secure. "Everything is possible, but, to be honest, I am not thinking about it too much," he shrugged when asked about his title chances.

"I just want to do one event at a time and concentrate on that. No matter what the result is. I don’t think about the championship too much. If it comes, it comes, and if it doesn’t come, then I don’t care. It doesn’t change my future," he added.
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/august-2016/lappi-toyota-/page/3847--12-12-.html

[EstWRC]

Corsica 2017 in the Spring! Early 2017 schedule then

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/wm/nachrichten/artikel/d/2016/08/23/fia-will-asphaltlauf-im-fruehjahr/


a welcomed change. what i dont like at all about the current format is exactly this that we dont have any tarmac rallies in the beginning of season and then we have all 4 tarmac rallies in a row in the end of summer and in the beginning of autumn.

[Mad cat jnr]

a welcomed change. what i dont like at all about the current format is exactly this that we dont have any tarmac rallies in the beginning of season and then we have all 4 tarmac rallies in a row in the end of summer and in the beginning of autumn.

We cant be having a potentially wet tarmac rally now can we...

[AL14]

Any news about Suninen? I think he should drive a WRC next year. A partial program maybe...

[pantealex]

Any news about Suninen? I think he should drive a WRC next year. A partial program maybe...

Timo Jouhki is his manager and for sure he is making some kind of deal...

I would say 95% chance for WRC drive and 5% to factory WRC2 deal.

[BleAivano]

I listened to VF Bilsport motorsport podcast earlier today and Rally Sweden was given some fair amount of time.
Regarding RS the situation seems to be the same as last week, RS still have not accumulated enough guarantees of accommodation availability.
The podcasters, reporter Johan Hedlund and race driver Jan "Flash" Nilsson came to the conclusion that most of the rooms in the area of Torsby and
Sunne are likely to have already been "booked. The situation is likely to be the same in Sälen and Åre/Österund for the weeks around the time of RS,
sometimes rooms need to be booked 1-2' years in advance for certain weeks.

http://www.vf.se/sport/bilsport/motorpodden-darfor-bor-rallyt-flytta%E2%80%9D

So if that is a correct assumption, where does that leave RS? They cannot continue to use Karlstad/southern Värmland since it isn't snow safe and
further North there are no accommodation available.

Interesting report from SMHI regarding snow depth and changes through the years. http://www.smhi.se/polopoly_fs/1.84651!/Menu/general/extGroup/attachmentColHold/mainCol1/file/meteorologi_158.pdf
In large parts of Sweden the amount of days with a snow cover have decreased with between 10 and 30 days. in the RS area, the change is about -17 days/winter.
The comparison is how much it changed for the period 1990/91 – 2013/14 compared 1960/61 – 1989/90.

[EstWRC]

Lappi confirms his exit from Skoda. things starting to get moving now...


https://translate.google.ee/translate?hl=et&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diariomotor.com%2Fcompeticion%2 F2016%2F08%2F26%2Fesapekka-lappi-da-el-siguiente-paso-y-confirma-su-salida-de-skoda%2F

[pantealex]

Lappi confirms his exit from Skoda. things starting to get moving now...


https://translate.google.ee/translate?hl=et&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diariomotor.com%2Fcompeticion%2 F2016%2F08%2F26%2Fesapekka-lappi-da-el-siguiente-paso-y-confirma-su-salida-de-skoda%2F

I see no confirmation on that, just story from some unofficial source, let´s wait his own pressrelease.

[EstWRC]

i understand the story is taken from motorsport news (credited below) which should be reliable.

[Rallyper]

I listened to VF Bilsport motorsport podcast earlier today and Rally Sweden was given some fair amount of time.
Regarding RS the situation seems to be the same as last week, RS still have not accumulated enough guarantees of accommodation availability.
The podcasters, reporter Johan Hedlund and race driver Jan "Flash" Nilsson came to the conclusion that most of the rooms in the area of Torsby and
Sunne are likely to have already been "booked. The situation is likely to be the same in Sälen and Åre/Österund for the weeks around the time of RS,
sometimes rooms need to be booked 1-2' years in advance for certain weeks.

http://www.vf.se/sport/bilsport/motorpodden-darfor-bor-rallyt-flytta%E2%80%9D

So if that is a correct assumption, where does that leave RS? They cannot continue to use Karlstad/southern Värmland since it isn't snow safe and
further North there are no accommodation available.

Interesting report from SMHI regarding snow depth and changes through the years. http://www.smhi.se/polopoly_fs/1.84651!/Menu/general/extGroup/attachmentColHold/mainCol1/file/meteorologi_158.pdf
In large parts of Sweden the amount of days with a snow cover have decreased with between 10 and 30 days. in the RS area, the change is about -17 days/winter.
The comparison is how much it changed for the period 1990/91 – 2013/14 compared 1960/61 – 1989/90.

For me Falun could be the answer. Northern Dalarna and Värmland can still be used for stages. And also north of Falun is pretty snowsafe even last years.

[Simmi]

i understand the story is taken from motorsport news (credited below) which should be reliable.

This is correct. Direct quotes from Lappi's mouth in MN saying after four and a half years at Skoda it is time to leave. Also admits he's been to the Toyota workshop but HASN'T driven the car. But he would say that haha.

[BleAivano]

For me Falun could be the answer. Northern Dalarna and Värmland can still be used for stages. And also north of Falun is pretty snowsafe even last years.

Well I don't agree with that, at least not 100%. In my experience central Dalarna, like Falun, Leksand, Borlänge, Malung are far from snow safe.
Last winter that area didn't have any snow either or had very little snow during the Swedish rally. The mountains are usually snow safe
but there accommodations are already booked.

[Rallyper]

Well I don't agree with that, at least not 100%. In my experience central Dalarna, like Falun, Leksand, Borlänge, Malung are far from snow safe.
Last winter that area didn't have any snow either or had very little snow during the Swedish rally. The mountains are usually snow safe
but there accommodations are already booked.

Mountains not needed. Falun can host 50000 spectators on Long-ski WC. And last year lots of snow north of Gävle which means also in the region from Gävle to Falun.

[KiwiWRCfan]

Italian website reports that Sven Smeets is the replacement of Jost Capito at VW
He joins Yves Matton as a team principal from Belgium https://carlocanovarallye.org/2016/08/28/sven-smeets-da-ds-a-boss-sostituisce-jost-capito-in-vw-motorsport/