News from France

[Walach]

Error in pacenotes can occur even if you are leading the rally or you are the slowest car on the event. Such a things just happen sometimes.

[Mirek]

But... look... if You are leading a competiton by more than 5 minutes, there is no reason to make any mistake either by the driver or by the co-driver. This is kind of a dumb and stupit behavior. It only shows, that RK is driving far above his own abilities. If I was a renter of rallycars I wouln´t give him anything but a ticket to drive home.
By winning a rally in a way he has shown before the accident, it could have been a calling card for next years jobs... but now he will be unemployed.

You could have started here on forum by more clever post...

In fact crashing happens very often when crew just cruise leading. It's very difficult phase of any race/rally for concentration. Besides rallying I follow closely also Moto GP where numerous times Casey Stoner or last time Jorge Lorenzo crashed in safe lead. Especially if it was a mistake from co-drivers side than it has nothing to do with skills of Robert. Mistakes happen and everyone makes them, even Daniel Elena made a few.

[mm1]

Not very clever post, is it?
RK has allready shown what his capabilities are, he's just assesing his speed and looking for the limits of the car and himself. A win in a national event is irrelevant if you're leading it by more than 5 min. This is not his playground, that's for sure.
I think ERC would be his best option for next year, and after that the next logical step.

[dupanton]

Everybody knows that only losers crash when they have a big advantage... Like Senna at Monaco ones, when he had a lead of a minute... :rolleyes:

[darkstar]

loeb also already crashed having a big lead...yes, he´s probably the biggest looser in rallyeing ever!

[Ucci]

And what happened to Nantet on the last stage??
Most imporant that Robert and a codriver are unhurt. Wish him luck and hope strong, that this accident will not have any effect for his 2013 plans.
My congrats also to R.Dumas (again one circuit racer), with 996 model, which dates back in the late 90', to be so so fast against modern cars, well, you must be a good driver....

[mousti]

Yep instead of a Left 3 he said Left 5..

totally destroyed, his C4.. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=388066021272545&set=a.181134701965679.47661.181112608634555&type=1&theater

[had_zachau]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/997_489013104454037_739042529_n.jpg

[AP-Racing]

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/14290_10151250345178116_119244825_n.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Well done Breen - 3rd after two punctures and dropping 4 mins...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/561738_10151339820127853_740706960_n.jpg

[skory]

After accident Robert has said: "Emanuele put me in error thats why the accident happened. I'm a little mad at him because victory was near. Most important, that nothing had happened. My future I see on the track, but the decision will be taken at the end of the year. I can only say that my priority is Formula 1. I greet and thank all the fans."

Codriver has accidentaly changed two pages and told him left 5 but it was left 3. Because of that he goes into the corner 40-50 km/h faster than should.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Super 2000 World Rally Champion Craig Breen has finished in third position at Rallye du Var, France.


Breen went into the final day of the season-ended race in sixth but only trailed Charles Zuccarelli (5th) by 38 seconds.
The Waterford man had reduced the deficit to just 11.1 seconds after this morning’s first stage before race leader Robert Kubica crashed out in the penultimate stage.
On the final 32km stage, Breen pulled out all the stops and with his second fastest stage time in succession managed to overhaul a 35-second deficit over Gillies Nantet to claim 3rd overall and cap an unbelievable drive.


Speaking after the race, Breen said: "I’m really delighted, this has been a hectic rally and I’m thrilled to finish third and get on the podium. We knew this morning that fourth was possible, so we decided to for it. I’m sorry for Robert (Kubica); he had a great drive all weekend."

He added: “At one point yesterday I was down in 20th position but apart from the punctures I’ve been really happy with my speed.

"Setting fastest time on stage 11 this morning was great and then on the final stage we still had to push and it worked, it’s been a fantastic rally. I want to thank all the Sainteloc team, the 207 (Peugeot) has been great.


"I’ve really enjoyed my time all year with the team and have learned a huge amount. It’s ideal to finish the year here in France. I began the season just up the road on the Monte (Rallye Monte Carlo) in January and Rallye du Var bookends another big season for me.”

[mousti]

Another view of the C4 WRC

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=388077411271406&set=a.181134701965679.47661.181112608634555&type=1&theater

[Mirek]

My congrats also to R.Dumas (again one circuit racer), with 996 model, which dates back in the late 90', to be so so fast against modern cars, well, you must be a good driver....

The result page is wrong. This car appears to me as 997 ;)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_9435.jpg

[Jarek Z]

Just saw an interview with Kubica after the rally. He confirmed that it was a mistake from his co-driver. Kubica said, that a rally crew always consists of two persons. He made many mistakes in the past and his co-driver was a victim of those mistakes. This time it was the other way around and he had to pay for the mistake of his co-driver.

Even though Kubica didn't finish, I'm still happy. The rally was won by Cedric Robert, one of my favourite drivers. Congratulations!

[vino_93]

The result page is wrong. This car appears to me as 997 ;)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_9435.jpg

yep, 997 GT3. Different car from Nantet and Cosson, who drive 997 Cup.

[tommeke_B]

Have gravel sections been used in Rallye du Var in the past?

There were 2 parts with some 100m of gravel in one stage. The asphalt was just gone there, I don't know why. In that big part of the stage the asphalt was completely destroyed everywhere, with big holes everywhere, very easy to get punctures there. Sometimes big pieces of asphalt just flew away when cars passed by...

[tommeke_B]

Rallye du Var 2012 Cosson - Vidéo Dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvd85o_rallye-du-var-2012-cosson_auto) - Mistake from Cosson on Vidauban on saturday... He changed his wheel 4 corners later.

[uranium]

Any chance to see Kubica onboard where he crashed?

[dimviii]

lololol
best of rally live have removed the pirelli logos from Cedric Robert photo(bumper ones)
Hard for them that Pirelli tyres were equipped at 1st and 2nd crew,inside France. :D

http://fr.best-of-rallylive.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/bestofrallylive/actualites/rallye-du-var-un-robert-en-cache-un-autre/101607-1-fre-FR/Rallye-du-Var-Un-Robert-en-cache-un-autre_articlethumbnail.jpg
Rallye du Var : Un Robert en cache un autre ! (http://www.best-of-rallylive.com/Bestofrallylive/Actualites/Rallye-du-Var-Un-Robert-en-cache-un-autre)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_0400.jpg

[MartijnS]

Wasn't it just a new bumper after he damaged one or something?

[dimviii]

Wasn't it just a new bumper after he damaged one or something?

Was Roberts or on Breens 207 the broken bumper?
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/3963/g041u.jpg

[dupanton]

Wasn't it just a new bumper after he damaged one or something?

It is 1 picture of Breen and 1 of Robert :D

[Spud303]

The pictures of Robert are from different rallys. He's #11 in one and #10 in the other. The first picture where he is #11 is a different rally the Rallye Du Val logo is not on the right hand side of his bonnet.

[Mirek]

True, the top photo is from Rallye du Monte Blanc.

[Kielder]

Loix's crash could have been worse:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjn1oeGxXjE&feature=player_embedded

[dimviii]

The pictures of Robert are from different rallys. He's #11 in one and #10 in the other. The first picture where he is #11 is a different rally the Rallye Du Val logo is not on the right hand side of his bonnet.

yes you are right,but this is more ridiculous for them. :D

Forza Pirelliiiiiii!!!

[Spud303]

[quote="dimviii"]yes you are right,but this is more ridiculous for them. :D

I'm still not convinced this is the case, if I was hiring a graphic designer to photoshop out the pirelli signs on a car for my michelin backed website id probably fire them for missing the big pirelli sign across the windshield. I may be wrong but I like their website. I live in Canada now and getting any sort of coverage of rally is hard and I feel Best Rally live make up for wrc.coms downfalls so I can't speak bad about them.

[tommeke_B]

My pics from the Rallye du Var are online on www.rally-image.be (http://www.rally-image.be)

http://www.rally-image.be/foto/0333/images/085.jpg

http://www.rally-image.be/foto/0333/images/074.jpg

http://www.rally-image.be/foto/0333/images/043.jpg

http://www.rally-image.be/foto/0333/images/040.jpg

http://www.rally-image.be/foto/0333/images/013.jpg

[Pascal 07]

Quelques photos de Julien :

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/1064/img2707o.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/441/img2707o.jpg/)

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/2825/img2756a.jpg

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/3304/img2583zm.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/16/img2583zm.jpg/)

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7859/img2925ud.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/21/img2925ud.jpg/)



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[dimviii]

yes you are right,but this is more ridiculous for them. :D

I'm still not convinced this is the case, if I was hiring a graphic designer to photoshop out the pirelli signs on a car for my michelin backed website id probably fire them for missing the big pirelli sign across the windshield. I may be wrong but I like their website. I live in Canada now and getting any sort of coverage of rally is hard and I feel Best Rally live make up for wrc.coms downfalls so I can't speak bad about them.

so you mean that couldnt find a photo from Cedric Roberts 207 from this rally?
i also like a lot bestofrallylive,but we have to be not bias. ;)

[dimviii]

tommeke_B (http://www.motorsportforums.com/members/tommeke_b-98402/) what about the ds3 drivers? who impessed you more? what about twingo? really impressed me from videos.How they were live compared to 208?

[tommeke_B]

@Dimvii:

Difficult event to drive. You have one corner just after another, constantly, the tricky places are not so obvious as in other events I think. Also there is quite some variation, for example Vidauban begins with 15km full of holes, bumpy road, even a bit of gravel, and then another 15km of catalunya-like road but just more narrow and more corners. The set-up is always a compromise and you can't always have it perfect. It's in the mountains but not going up and down that much, they are more following the mountains, no big altitude-differences during the stages.

About the DS3-drivers I would say Consani and Chardonnet were clearly the best drivers, but both had bad luck... Arzeno and Gilbert were announced as "big names" in the beginning of the season already, but without some luck they wouldn't have been 1 and 2, both were driving too brutal, using the handbrake too much, their lines were not so good in fact. Kevin Demaerschalk impressed me a lot too, it was his first time in Rallye du Var (others did the rally several times before), first time with a new codriver (and a changed pace-note system). He was quick and very clean ( quite late in and out in a more straight line etc, really good lines for long asphalt stages), pitty he lost 2min8s because of a puncture (which was really a matter of luck on those stages with big holes even in straight lines, and big holes you could not avoid). I believe Kevin is one of the guys to watch if he continues in the DS3 trophy next year, hopefully with Fred Miclotte again. :)

In the Twingo R2 cup Salinas, Guigou and Clutier were the guys to watch of course. I think the Twingo is quite close to the 208, really hard to say which is better (also because only Bouffier was driving a 208). In general I would say the 208 looked a bit more stable, about engine etc it's impossible to tell a real difference in Rallye du Var where the road turns constantly it's more difficult to tell than in another rally. I think a 208 would be better in more flat events (like Belgian events, Germany, Touquet in Northern France etc.).

For the rest Kubica was really nice, perfect lines and really fast, even if Freddy would've been driving with a C4 I think Kubica would've been faster. I'm not surprised he crashed. I think he didn't give anything about the victory, he just wanted to learn and gain experience, and you don't learn when cruising... Freddy Loix was rather disappointing, always looked like he was hesitating a bit what to do, didn't look confident. Breen was surprisingly quick, I didn't expect him to beat Robert in speed so quickly, if he can be so fast in Rallye du Var he can be fast on tarmac everywhere, no doubt about that. Another nice surprise was Zucarelli, with an old 206 WRC, the car was extremely low and soft, the outside of the front bumper always reached the ground in corners, and the car was slightly understeering, but apparently it worked and he was setting nice stage-times, and it was nice to see. :) Maurin was a bit of a disappointment, it looks like he's becoming te French Matthew Wilson (but with more mistakes), to put it roughly... Then the GT's, they're not real rallycars but very nice to see and hear, and they are so fast (especially Dumas and Nantet)... :)

[mousti]

According to his Twitter, Eric Brunson will tomorrow test at Banbury with the Mini JCW WRC.

[vino_93]

nice car. Hope to see him in France, but ... more probably in Belgium ?

[dupanton]

nice car. Hope to see him in France, but ... more probably in Belgium ?

I think he will return to France...

[Tom206wrc]

Anthony Cosson sold his Porsche and is aiming the 208 Rally Cup next year ;)

[vino_93]

Any idea of who buy the Porsche ?

[tommeke_B]

From Tony his facebook: "La fabuleuse Porsche à trouvé, depuis ce matin un nouveau pilote pour 2013 dans les atelier Vaison Sport...."
So the car will be at Vaison Sport now... :)

[mousti]

According to his Twitter, Eric Brunson will tomorrow test at Banbury with the Mini JCW WRC.
I was wrong, he was at Msport testing Fiesta WRC :)

[ChristianArp]

Loix's crash could have been worse:



That looks A LOT like his crash at Condroz 2008 in the 207 - in fact it's almost the same exact situation.
Lucky escape indeed!

[titi_62]

I think he will return to France...

Loix is announced in Belgium Championship for 2013 with a WRC 2.0T.
Autonews Magazine » Rallye » Freddy Loix de retour en Belgique (http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blog/?p=27615)

[PLuto]

If there will stay same regulations about WRC cars in Belgium...

[mousti]

I don't see it changed anytime soon..

[Tom206wrc]

News from northern France: José Barbara bought a Prodrive Mini WRC for the 2013 rallies season :cool:

[EightGear]

News from northern France: José Barbara bought a Prodrive Mini WRC for the 2013 rallies season :cool:

From Patrick Snijers.

[vino_93]

wooh ! Rallye des Routes du Nord, first event ? :)
Do you know who buy the S9 ? And if he had sell the S11 ?

[mousti]

He will do events with the Mini and S11..

[vino_93]

Germain Bonnefis will take part to the Bandama Rally this week end :)

[mousti]

Any plans for him internationally? He's ready for that!

[vino_93]

I don't know, but this entry is support by Peugeot ... maybe we can hope something for next year (in ERC ?) :)

[mousti]

Let's hope! The ideal guy to get the R5 to his first win!

[Tom206wrc]

I don't know, but this entry is support by Peugeot ... maybe we can hope something for next year (in ERC ?) :)


Strange he doesn't run the 208 R2 but a "vulgar" 207 R3T if Peugeot is behind him :confused:

[vino_93]

The goal is to win the overall. Maybe that the 208 is not the best car to do this in these African roads ...

[dupanton]

The NCRS Subaru S12 has been sold to a guy from the North of France. Never heard about him! This should be his livery for the Routes du Nord.

http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee320/WRCKE/nc_zpsb772e74b.jpg

[vino_93]

He drove since 2 years, and only one race per year. He finished 18th in 2011 in Rallye de la Lys with Evo VI N4 and retired this year in Epernay.

It seems that the S9 of Barbara was sold in the North of France too, but don't know who bought it ...

@czech friends : are Tlustak, Odlozilik, and another one going this year in Rallye des Routes du Nord ? :)

[PLuto]

He drove since 2 years, and only one race per year. He finished 18th in 2011 in Rallye de la Lys with Evo VI N4 and retired this year in Epernay.

It seems that the S9 of Barbara was sold in the North of France too, but don't know who bought it ...

@czech friends : are Tlustak, Odlozilik, and another one going this year in Rallye des Routes du Nord ? :)

I dont think so. Rallye des Routes du Nord is too early in February...

[vino_93]

it's the same week that 2010 when he was here :) And same week as last year (but unfortunately they both can't start :( )

[Mirek]

I guess Tlusťák is running Latvia ERC in February and that is probably enough.

[vino_93]

Barbara's Mini : https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s480x480/537651_460046530725238_1439231850_n.jpg

And it seems that British drivers wanna come back to the Route du Nord : Andy Fenwick and Barry Renwick with Accent WRC want to do the rally in 2013 :)

[irish_tiger]

Im just wondering would someone have an answer to this question that i put up on the WRC Fourm
http://www.motorsportforums.com/wrc/156445-wrc-3-2wd-championship.html#post1094654

[Tom206wrc]

Edit: oops my news isn't recent enough... :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Go read the "One make cup" thread: there are some great news from Opel(General Motors)coming to France ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Next week in France there are the first(snowy)rallies of the season, the Ronde du Jura and the rallye Neige des Hautes-Alpes ;)

Edit: I don't mention this week's Monte-Carlo and next week's Monte-Carlo Historique, because Monaco isn't France :p :

[tommeke_B]

Next week in France there are the first(snowy)rallies of the season, the Ronde du Jura and the rallye Neige des Hautes-Alpes ;)

Edit: I don't mention this week's Monte-Carlo and next week's Monte-Carlo Historique, because Monaco isn't France :p :
But the stages are in France... :)

[vino_93]

most importants entries here :
eWRC-results.com - results Rallye National Hivernal des Hautes-Alpes 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?e=8357&t=Rallye-National-Hivernal-des-Hautes-Alpes-2013)
eWRC-results.com - results Ronde Rgionale du Jura 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/startlist.php?e=8359&t=Ronde-Regionale-du-Jura-2013)

[Tom206wrc]

Fantastic news for french tarmac rallies championship this year !!! :bounce:

It has just been created a new championship(in the championship ;) )dedicated to the constructors, in 2WD class(either GrR or others)... :cool:

[vino_93]

hum ... I hope some constructors will enters official 2WD cars. I think Renault will enter a R2 for Jérémy Serieys due to his victory in French Junior champ, but don't know for the other ...

I hope a title for drivers too ...

[vino_93]

Just look at the point system for manufacturer champ :
2 categories :
- one for R2, R3, N4 2WD (Mégane RS...)
- one for R1
points : 3, 2, 1 for cat 1 and cat 2.

a bit strange ... why R2 is with R3 and N4 ? A third category for this class would have been logic ... but logic and FFSA :)

[Tom206wrc]

Jean-Marie Cuoq back to gravel championship at the wheels of Lethier's 206 WRC :bounce:

[Tom206wrc]

Nicolas Liron sold his Megane Maxi, and bought...a Toyota Corolla S2000 !!! :D
First ever car of this type in France... ;)

[vino_93]

Corolla S2000 ? Where does he find it ? Czech ? Italy ? or South Africa ?
Do you know what rallies he will do ?

Good for gravel champ to see Cuoq there but ... there is no competition for him, and it's bad for tarmac champ :(
Edit : is it the 206 he drove in Cévennes in 2011 ?

[Sulland]

Nicolas Liron sold his Megane Maxi, and bought...a Toyota Corolla S2000 !!! :D
First ever car of this type in France... ;)

Is it one of the R-E-D Toyotas that McRae drove?

[vino_93]

Just find it : it's the one which ran Macek in Czech Republic.

[Tom206wrc]

Nice battle for the victory in Corsica(Rallye du Sartenais Valinco) after four stages :)
Classements (http://www.patricksoft.fr/Direct_choix.asp?meet=12900042&type=0)

I think Pierre-Antoine Santoni will win :p :

[vino_93]

he had a spin and lost many places ... victory for Alexandre Lanfranchi for his first drive in the 207. Before he drove only a small Saxo !

Vivens (the guy who impressed people here on last Critérium des Cévennes :) ) finished 2nd for one of his rare drive out of his region ! Guglielmi is third, but for sure disappointed, because Santoni was much faster ... as Vivens.
But the most disappointing driver here is Jean-Matthieu Leandri, quite unusual to see him so slow ...

eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Rgional du Sartenais - Valinco 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=8680&t=rallye-regional-du-sartenais-valinco-2013)


And a news : Subaru Impreza WRC 03 from Barbara was bought by Jean-François Bérenguer. He will drive french gravel championship and some national races.

Berenguer was official driver for Citroen in the beginning of 2000's ! So for sure a good contender for Cuoq.

[tolis]

Thanks vino! However, I want to see uploaded the whole classification! :D

[Tom206wrc]

It was a puncture for Santoni in the last stage :(
Léandri had a technical problem on the first loop of stages of the rally... :mark:

[Jarek Z]

Just find it : it's the one which ran Macek in Czech Republic.

So it must be this car:
=33]CorollaS2000 (http://rallyonline.pl/ft.php?idg=4759&pg_[go)

Macek was a very slow driver. Let's hope that this Liron knows how to drive such car! :)

[Mirek]

Here is a video from 2009 when Emil Triner tested the car of Macek. It was a bit faster driving ;)
Toyota Test Day (S2000, WRC) HD - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az767padYfM&feature=player_detailpage#t=78s)

[Jarek Z]

Well, Emil Triner is a completely different story :)

[Tom206wrc]

Belgian Kevin Demaerschalk's 2013 program will be the french Citroën Racing Tropy again(6 rounds)except Langres(he will be in Ypres instead) ;)

[tommeke_B]

Belgian Kevin Demaerschalk's 2013 program will be the french Citroën Racing Tropy again(6 rounds)except Langres(he will be in Ypres instead) ;)
You forget to mention his new codriver: Renaud Jamoul, former codriver of Mathieu Arzeno. Arzeno will drive a different programme, no French DS3 Trophy anymore. Don't know more (yet). :)

[106 sport]

You forget to mention his new codriver: Renaud Jamoul, former codriver of Mathieu Arzeno. Arzeno will drive a different programme, no French DS3 Trophy anymore. Don't know more (yet). :)

Perphaps ERC ?

[Tom206wrc]

Official end of collaboration between Renault Sport and Manu Guigou :(
It lasted so long years together... :mark:

Instead, Germain Bonnefis has been named Renault official driver in ERC(Megane RS N4)...

[tommeke_B]

Official end of collaboration between Renault Sport and Manu Guigou :(
It lasted so long years together... :mark:

Instead, Germain Bonnefis has been named Renault official driver in ERC(Megane RS N4)...
Guigou is a great driver, but he is 42 years old now, I think it's not bad to give the chance to a younger driver who still has the potential to improve. :)

[PLuto]

Guigou is a great driver, but he is 42 years old now, I think it's not bad to give the chance to a younger driver who still has the potential to improve. :)

Age was not the reason...

[Tom206wrc]

Do not forget Rallye des Routes du Nord tomorrow saturday on PatricK Soft (http://www.patricksoft.fr) ;)
Some Belgians and a British among the non french participants...
Remains to be seen if Pol Lietaer will run RRN or Rally van Haspengouw :confused:

[wwbroe]

Do not forget Rallye des Routes du Nord tomorrow saturday on PatricK Soft (http://www.patricksoft.fr) ;)
Some Belgians and a British among the non french participants...
Remains to be seen if Pol Lietaer will run RRN or Rally van Haspengouw :confused:

He has changed his mind and will run in Rally Haspengouw instead of Rally du Nord

[tommeke_B]

A few photos from my friend from the shakedown of Les Routes du Nord online on www.rally-image.be (http://www.rally-image.be) (also watch our facebook-page: rally-image.be )

http://rally-image.be/foto/0341/images/016.jpg

http://rally-image.be/foto/0341/images/003.jpg

http://rally-image.be/foto/0341/images/024.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Lefèbvre 5th overall after first loop of stages(SS1, 2 and 3)Rallye des Routes du Nord, leading the field of 2WDs :bounce:
PatricK Soft (http://www.patricksoft.fr/)

[Tom206wrc]

Lefèbvre lost a lot of time in SS4 Routes du Nord(+1'16") but then with a 4th best time on SS5 and a 3rd best time on SS6 last stage of leg, I'm confident he can be back first 2WDs after tomorrow sunday longer stages...it's a matter of time ;)

[vino_93]

well, you forget to talk about Rallye des Côtes Fleuries, in Normandy. Big events too with Brunson, Barbara, Knapick, Lemonnier, Alemany, Martel and Robert :) I was there for the first time, instead of Route du Nord, and it was :eek: best crews pushed a lot, it was beautiful to see ! Barbara isn't in his place in the Mini ... it was complicated for him. Brunson is Brunson, and Robert :eek: But I think the most impressive were Lemonnier with his Evo X R4, and Martel with 207 S2000. Chauffray did really good drive too with his small Saxo, as his opponent in A6, Margely :p No regret for me to be there instead of Route du Nord.
Classification : Classement Rallye de la Côte Fleurie 2013 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/classement-rallye-de-la-cote-fleurie-2013/)

[vino_93]

first stages were cancelled in RDN due to snow. But it that 6 last stages will be run :)

[mousti]

Lefèbvre lost a lot of time in SS4 Routes du Nord(+1'16") but then with a 4th best time on SS5 and a 3rd best time on SS6 last stage of leg, I'm confident he can be back first 2WDs after tomorrow sunday longer stages...it's a matter of time ;)
Lefevbre binned it!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/602188_437894382967795_1499815243_n.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Jean-Marie Cuoq bought a Citroën C4 WRC and will use it in french tarmac championship(in complement with gravel on 206 WRC) ;)

[tommeke_B]

Jean-Marie Cuoq bought a Citroën C4 WRC and will use it in french tarmac championship(in complement with gravel on 206 WRC) ;)

From which team did he buy the car??

[vino_93]

Is it confirm ? I know some days ago the rumor began on french forum ... but french forums and rumors ... :s mokin:

[Tom206wrc]

Is it confirm ? I know some days ago the rumor began on french forum ... but french forums and rumors ... :s mokin:


Rallye-Sport.fr : L'actualité du rallye en France et dans le Monde (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/) ;)

[tolis]

15 Opel Adam R2 for France for:

Guillaume Sirot
Benjamin Hanquiez
Benoît Vaillant
Charlotte Dalmasso
Charlotte Berton
Fabien Crouzet
Jean René Perry
Jérémi Beaux
Rémi Jouines
Romain Fostier
Vincent Humeau
Yoan Bonato

[Jeppe]

15 Opel Adam R2 for France for:

Guillaume Sirot
Benjamin Hanquiez
Benoît Vaillant
Charlotte Dalmasso
Charlotte Berton
Fabien Crouzet
Jean René Perry
Jérémi Beaux
Rémi Jouines
Romain Fostier
Vincent Humeau
Yoan Bonato

WoW! Big amount of owners in a car which is almost unseen... Opel must have very good marketing persons in France ;)

[vino_93]

well, it seems that they use their dealer to have all their driver so fast. But indeed, extraordinary level ! Except Dalmasso who isn't really fast, and Crouzet still unknow at national level, it's really good !

[Mirek]

15 Opel Adam R2 for France for:

Guillaume Sirot
Benjamin Hanquiez
Benoît Vaillant
Charlotte Dalmasso
Charlotte Berton
Fabien Crouzet
Jean René Perry
Jérémi Beaux
Rémi Jouines
Romain Fostier
Vincent Humeau
Yoan Bonato

Haven't heard about this guy for ages. Nice to see his name again!

[Fly]

Guillaume Sirot
Benjamin Hanquiez
Benoît Vaillant
Charlotte Dalmasso
Charlotte Berton
Fabien Crouzet
Jean René Perry
Jérémi Beaux
Rémi Jouines
Romain Fostier
Vincent Humeau
Yoan Bonato
Haven't heard about this guy for ages. Nice to see his name again!

Didier Auriol put some hopes on Bonato several years ago but nothing big happened.

Good list of drivers btw.

[Jarek Z]

Haven't heard about this guy for ages. Nice to see his name again!

I'm not sure if anyone should be happy here. Bonato was known to be a good driver already around 2005, 2006. 8 years later all that he achieved is to drive some pathetic R2 car. Isn't it sad?

[mousti]

Autonews Magazine » Rallye » First Motorsport avec Brunson et Snobeck au Touquet (http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blog/?p=29415&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook)

Brunson and Snobeck both with S12b in Touquet with First

[Tom206wrc]

Endurance racer Simon Pagenaud at the wheels of a Citroën DS3 R3 at next week-end's rallye de la Vienne ;)
Anthony Cosson will discover the Peugeot 208 R2 on the same event...
For the victory overall, no less that two Minis WRC :p :

[Tom206wrc]

Anthony Cosson is currently testing the PH Sport 208 R2(as preparation to the french cup)at the Rallye de la Vienne... ;)

He's 6th overall after six stages(he set several times the 3rd absolute best times!!)

The Mini WRC drivers Pierre Roché and Philippe Taffoneau are the two overall leaders so far...

FFSA | Rallye de la Vienne - 2013 (http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?id=1989&catCourse=ral)

[mousti]

Seems First Motorsport has bought 2 Mini WRC 01b..

[Fly]

Seems First Motorsport has bought 2 Mini WRC 01b..

Inderdaad!

Autonews Magazine » Rallye » Deux Mini WRC (http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blog/?p=29555)

[Tom206wrc]

Two big events in France next week: Rallye du Touquet and Rallye Pay du Gier(swiss championship) ;)

[Ucci]

Autonews Magazine » Rallye » First Motorsport avec Brunson et Snobeck au Touquet (http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blog/?p=29415&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook)

Brunson and Snobeck both with S12b in Touquet with First

So, the old guy (Snobeck) is still not giving up.....how old is he indeed-63, 64???

[Sulland]

Inderdaad!

Autonews Magazine » Rallye » Deux Mini WRC (http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blog/?p=29555)

Who will drive these cars, is that clear yet?

[Fly]

Who will drive these cars, is that clear yet?

Not yet but team boss said he was already asked for infos from drivers about the Mini before he announced it officially. He is positive about hiring them soon. But no idea at what level. Belgian roads do not suit the 1.6 cars against the 2.0 cars.

[vino_93]

Anthony Cosson is currently testing the PH Sport 208 R2(as preparation to the french cup)at the Rallye de la Vienne... ;)

He's 6th overall after six stages(he set several times the 3rd absolute best times!!)

The Mini WRC drivers Pierre Roché and Philippe Taffoneau are the two overall leaders so far...

FFSA | Rallye de la Vienne - 2013 (http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?id=1989&catCourse=ral)

Well finally Roche wins the race and his father finished second :) Taffoneau had to retire ...
Nice pics here : eWRC-results.com - archive and online results from WRC and rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=9281&t=Rallye-National-de-la-Vienne-2013)

[vino_93]

So, the old guy (Snobeck) is still not giving up.....how old is he indeed-63, 64???

In North of France there's another old guy : José Barbara. He is birth the 6 june 1944 ! and still driving a Mini WRC !
eWRC-results.com - profile Jos Barbara (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=670&t=Jose-Barbara)
I think he is the oldest guy to win a rally in France, with the Rallye de Picardie 2012.

[dupanton]

In North of France there's another old guy : José Barbara. He is birth the 6 june 1944 ! and still driving a Mini WRC !
eWRC-results.com - profile Jos Barbara (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=670&t=Jose-Barbara)
I think he is the oldest guy to win a rally in France, with the Rallye de Picardie 2012.

Barbara celebrated his 50 years in rallying recently (last year?) :D

[vino_93]

Two big events in France next week: Rallye du Touquet and Rallye Pay du Gier(swiss championship) ;)
and it will be too the beginning of Nicolas Liron with his Corolla S2000 in the Rallye des Vins du Gard. In the same rally two interesting thing : Nicolas Bernardi back with Fiesta S2000 :eek: and Romain Salinas, winner of Renault Twingo R2 Trophy last year, with Mégane RS.

And in the Rallye de Draguignan, Arzeno will run with 207 S2000. He will face Jean Philippe Desidelli with another 207 S2000. And nice to see Cyril Audirac with DS3 R3 :p

[Tom206wrc]

Return of Guerlain Chichérit !!! He will drive a Mini WRC on the roads of rallye terre des Causses(gravel) in april... ;)

[irish_tiger]

Is the first round of the Citroen Racing Trophy on this weekend ? If so any links ?

[Tom206wrc]

No, this season no Citroën Racing Trophy in Touquet(first round of tarmac championsip) :mark:
First round in Lyon-Charbonnières(by mid april) ;)

But Touquet is first round of the Renault trophies(Twingo R2 and R1) and the best link is http://www.patricksoft.fr/ for the results ;)

[Tofrallye29]

Chichérit's car
http://www.forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_03_2013/post-433-0-30346500-1363253180.jpg

[vino_93]

After first loop : eWRC-results.com - results Rallye du Touquet 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=6644&t=Rallye-du-Touquet-2013)

[Tom206wrc]

Cédric Robert was disturbed by Jean-Charles Beaubelique on SS3(passing him in stage)explaining why he lost 12" on Stéphane Lefèbvre :(

[Tom206wrc]

Broken gearbox for Cédric Robert(retirement) ;(

[Sulland]

Wow, very impressed by the 208 R2 on the first stages of Touquet.
very fast indeed!!

some of the R1s also quick compared on hp/ weight ratio with the rest of the field.

[vino_93]

after day 1 : eWRC-results.com - results Rallye du Touquet 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=6644&t=Rallye-du-Touquet-2013)

Go Brunson ! Good race for Roche too. Not fault, not so slow ... Lemonnier is doing great race too ! And of course Lefebvre :) And good come back of Mordacq !

[Mirek]

What happened to Cedric Robert?

[vino_93]

Broken gearbox for Cédric Robert(retirement) ;(
;)

[Mirek]

Mérci, I overlooked it.

[Tom206wrc]

Unlucky Stéphane Lefèbvre !!!!! He went off in a field on SS9(as many other drivers), but on the only place where there was a tractor, and hit it/crashed/broke a wheel on it(retirement) !!!! :s ;(

[Tom206wrc]

Big battle for 2nd position on Rallye Pays du Gier between Ivan Ballinari and Sébastien Carron(while Grégoire Hotz is leading) :)
The first four crews are from Switzerland(swiss championship), and the first french driver is Arnaud Monnet, 5th overall... ;)

Florian Gonon is leading the VHC field :)

[wwbroe]

Eric Brunson took his 4th victory in Touquet, beating Cuoq in his C4WRC. Mourin finished fourth after he lost more then 4 minutes with a flat tyre. Good that Brunson is back in French championship.

[gianni123]

Crash Bruno Riberi -Twingo R2 (Rallye Touquet)

Rallye du Touquet 2013 - Crash Riberi Bruno Twingo R2 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LE_5sFIBg4)

[vino_93]

All stages results, trophies, aso here : eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Le Touquet - Pas de Calais 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=6644&t=rallye-du-touquet-2013)

[tommeke_B]

Back from a nice Rallye le Touquet. There were some good battles between the drivers, pitty that so many had to retire... Some nice surprises, like Charles Martin who competed with a Peugeot 208 R2 for the first time, and was quite close to Robert and Lefebvre, before those 2 retired. Also I had a lot of fun watching the Twingo R1's, the cars aren't the fastest, but they are giving it all, it's just great to see!

Photos online on www.rally-image.be (http://www.rally-image.be)

http://rally-image.be/foto/0347/images/056.jpg

http://rally-image.be/foto/0347/images/057.jpg

http://rally-image.be/foto/0347/images/003.jpg

http://rally-image.be/foto/0347/images/019.jpg

http://rally-image.be/foto/0347/images/060.jpg

[vino_93]

You can find here classifications of various championships which were present in Rallye Le Touquet :
Tarmac : eWRC-results.com - Season 2013 rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?season=2013&section=28&t=France-tarmac)
Amator : eWRC-results.com - Season 2013 rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?season=2013&section=263&t=France-Amateur-Trophy)
Twingo R2 : eWRC-results.com - Season 2013 rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?season=2013&section=202&t=France-Trophee-Twingo-R2)
Junior : eWRC-results.com - Season 2013 rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?season=2013&section=200&t=France-Junior)

I have to underline the extraordinary race done by Axel Garcia in Junior Championship ! Only 4 rallies in his life, first time here, without any experience from these roads and these conditions ... and he finished 2nd in Junior champ, with good times, and reliability ! Compared to Bernardi who is doing is 3rd year ... Nice victory for Defert too, who is doing his 2nd year.

úp cho ngÃ*y cu?i tu?n nÃ*o :D

úp cho ngÃ*y cu?i tu?n nÃ*o :D

[Tom206wrc]

Grégoire Hotz won the Rallye Pays du Gier ahead of Sébastien Carron and Nicolas Althaus ;)
Ivan Ballinari retired for "personnal reason" :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

By the way, for the first time at the wheels of a Ford Fiesta S2000, Nicolas Bernardi(who didn't drive in rallying since several years)is currently leading the Rallye des Vins du Gard ;)

[gianni123]

Touquet: Jump + Crash

Rallye du Touquet - Jump + Crash - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lq_cVlbcPk)

[vino_93]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=QmqU35V0eXg#t=327s

:D

[vino_93]

Touquet: Jump + Crash

Rallye du Touquet - Jump + Crash - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lq_cVlbcPk)
well ... nice place, but the owner of the house must be happy ... :rolleyes: and after we are surprised that people don't want rallies behind their doors.

[vino_93]

This week end in France :
Only on "National" Rally, Le Pays du Gier. Part of the Switzerland championship. As usual since 2009 it's again a swiss victory, and the third time consecutively a top three ! Grégoire Hotz won quite easilly in front of Carron and Althaus. First French is Monnet with his 207 S2000, 4th.
eWRC-results.com - results Rallye National du Pays du Gier 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=8094)

Then 3 "Régional" rallies.
Too were quite interesting. First of all, the Rallye Draguignan made its comeback. There was at the start Arzeno with a 207 S2000 (Pitstop). Against him another S2000 (Desidelli, Drakko Sport). Some interesting crews in 2WD : Magnou (206 S1600) and Audirac (DS3 R3). It was not so easy for Arzeno who faces some difficulties against Magnou and Desidelli, but at the end he won, behind Magnou and Desidelli, for his first run in S2000.
eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Rgional Draguignan-Verdon 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=9436&t=Rallye-Regional-Draguignan-Verdon-2013)

Other interesting Régional was Les Vins du Gard. Nicolas Bernadi was back in rally with the Fiesta S2000 of Maurin (he is Maurin's coach). Nicolas Liron with the ex-Macek Corolla finally didn't start, the car isn't ready. Against Bernardi, no one ... Salinas, winner of Twingo R2 trophy, started with Mégane, and made a good race. But it was impossible for him to fight against Bernardi's Fiesta. It's Daiel Nicolas with Clio R3 who finshed third, but there was a nice fight btw him, Janel (C2 S1600), Antherieux (Clio R3) and Masclaux (Clio Maxi).
eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Rgional des Vins du Gard 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=9365&t=Rallye-Regional-des-Vins-du-Gard-2013)

And the last was the Rallye 24 Dordogne Périgord. Some good drivers but nothing extraordinary. Anthony Mora with his 318 Compact won quite easilly in front of Lerosier (Escort), and Robineau (Mégane RS) who took advantage of the retirement of Maurat (Golf KC).
eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Rgional 24 Dordogne Prigord 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=9418)

For those who don't know, National are most important rallies in French Cup, with coeff 3, 4 or 5. WRC are allowed (and GT+ too, but it's link with french championship participation), and in some rallies, you can come from another country. The Régional's are the less important, coeff 1 and 2. They are shorter than National's, and WRC aren't allowed. And of course, it costs less.

Next week there will be Rallye d'Epernay, very important race in North part of France !

[Tom206wrc]

Pre-entrylist Rallye terre des Causses(gravel championship)available on rallye terre des causses (http://www.rallye-des-causses.org) (engagés)...

A fantastic entry for the french 208 Cup(19 crews) :bounce:
Note Belgian Cédric Chérain among them ;)
My ultra favourite is Noël Tron(the fastest young driver on french gravel to my mind) :cool:

[dupanton]

Pre-entrylist Rallye terre des Causses(gravel championship)available on rallye terre des causses (http://www.rallye-des-causses.org) (engagés)...

A fantastic entry for the french 208 Cup(19 crews) :bounce:
Note Belgian Cédric Chérain among them ;)
My ultra favourite is Noël Tron(the fastest young driver on french gravel to my mind) :cool:

I think Consani, Lefebvre and Privé will battle for the win in dthe 208 cup. Maybe Tron will be able to join them, but I don't think so...

[Fly]

I think Consani, Lefebvre and Privé will battle for the win in dthe 208 cup. Maybe Tron will be able to join them, but I don't think so...

Add Dubert, Martin, Millet.

So many good (mostly young) drivers in France.

[mousti]

Pre-entrylist Rallye terre des Causses(gravel championship)available on rallye terre des causses (http://www.rallye-des-causses.org) (engagés)...

A fantastic entry for the french 208 Cup(19 crews) :bounce:
Note Belgian Cédric Chérain among them ;)
My ultra favourite is Noël Tron(the fastest young driver on french gravel to my mind) :cool:
Do you know the pilots who do the full cup? :)

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[Kielder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Pcza1bkLw

[Tom206wrc]

Kevin Abbring in 208 Cup in Causses !!!! Wow !!!! :eek: :eek: :up:

[EightGear]

Kevin Abbring in 208 Cup in Causses !!!! Wow !!!! :eek: :eek: :up:

Wow, surprise!

[HaCo]

It was also nice to see the Adam as a 0-car at Le Touquet (I was there for 2 stages).

[dupanton]

Add Dubert, Martin, Millet.

So many good (mostly young) drivers in France.

I don't know if they have the experience on gravel...
Abbring is a contender, for sure! Any one who can beat him will probably win (or be very close)

[Tom206wrc]

Dubert and Millet have experience on gravel, Martin not sure(he ran Twingo R1 cup on tarmac past years) ;)
But now sure, new favourite is Abbring :D

[vino_93]

carbonaro back with 206 WRC :) for sure he will not run for victory, but it's nice to see him come back ! and Jacquot with 207 S2000, as finnish Saku Vierimaa (Fabia) :)

as usual the level in the peugeot Cup is :eek:

And I can't wait the battle btw Chicherit and Cuoq for the win :p

[mousti]

Drivers for the 208 cup is phenomenal is almost more interesting than the overall battle! :D

[Tom206wrc]

WOW !!!! Cédric Hennion will drive...a DS3 WRC in french gravel championship this year !!! :eek: :eek:

[Tom206wrc]

Interesting, according to Rallye-Magazine, two finnish drivers(Max Vatanen and Jussi Punumäki)are thinking about entering the french 208 Cup ;)

[tommeke_B]

WOW !!!! Cédric Hennion will drive...a DS3 WRC in french gravel championship this year !!! :eek: :eek: In 3 events... ;) Not the complete championship. Nice addition but not a real contender for the championship... ;) About the 208 Cup, at the moment, the best way to be seen by manufacturers is joining a cup/trophy like that... But I think they have more to loose than to win :)

[Tom206wrc]

Interesting, according to Rallye-Magazine, two finnish drivers(Max Vatanen and Jussi Punumäki )are thinking about entering the french 208 Cup ;)

Erm...I meant Jussi Kumpumäki :mark:

[mousti]

Brunson with DS3 was an april fools joke :)


Abbring will drive 208 Rally cup in France prepared by Saintéloc and co driven by Belgian Pieter Vyncke !

[Tom206wrc]

To follow te great rallye terre des Causses tomorrow saturday :p :
Causses (http://www.brennusinfo.fr/2013/Causses2013/Causses.aspx)

Kevin Abbring can win the 208 Cup on this type of terrain(his first win of the 2WDs in the DS3 R3 in 2011) :cool:

[Tom206wrc]

To follow te great rallye terre des Causses tomorrow saturday :p :
Causses (http://www.brennusinfo.fr/2013/Causses2013/Causses.aspx)

Kevin Abbring can win the 208 Cup on this type of terrain(his first win with of the 2WDs in the DS3 R3 in 2011) :cool:

[EightGear]

To follow te great rallye terre des Causses tomorrow saturday :p :
Causses (http://www.brennusinfo.fr/2013/Causses2013/Causses.aspx)

Kevin Abbring can win the 208 Cup on this type of terrain(his first win of the 2WDs in the DS3 R3 in 2011) :cool:

Does somebody know what happened to Abbring on SS1? He lost 13 seconds there, but the next 2 stages were a lot better.

[Tom206wrc]

Big battle on the rallye terre des Causses !!! :cool:
Cuoq didn't dominate the event and was slower than Baud's whale on te two first stages, before taking the lead after SS3(21km long) :D
Chieusse and Jacquot are following already with big margin behind...
Problems with brakes and notes for Chichérit on his Mini explaining the huge loss he got :mark:

In the 208 Cup Consani is leading in front of Lefèbvre and Martin...Abbring 5th of the cup, and very good job by Gago for the first time outside Portual :up:

[Fly]

My ultra favourite is Noël Tron(the fastest young driver on french gravel to my mind) :cool:

How old (young) is he? He already won the Saxo T4 Trophy in 2002...

[Fly]

BTW, Consani retired (mechanical)
208 cup: 1.Lefebvre, 2.Martin, 3.Abbring

[Tom206wrc]

Pitty for Consani ;(
Also Cuoq retired(off road)blocking SS6 for a while :eek:
So two whales in front after day one :p :

[Wim_Impreza]

How old (young) is he? He already won the Saxo T4 Trophy in 2002...

Noël Tron is 40 years, his birthdate was 25 November 1972: RallyBase (http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=profile&driverid=8046)

[Fly]

Noël Tron is 40 years, his birthdate was 25 November 1972: RallyBase (http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=profile&driverid=8046)

Thanks.

[vino_93]

After day 1, Cuoq retired, but Baud was a great contender !
eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Terre des Causses 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=7991&t=Rallye-Terre-des-Causses-2013)

In the 208 Cup, Consani retired ... but incredible battle btw Lefebvre, Martin, Abbring, Tron, ... good race by Gago too !
eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Terre des Causses 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=7991&s=36173&section=199&t=Rallye-Terre-des-Causses-2013)

[MartijnS]

Good pace of Abbring, nice :)

[TheFlyingTuga]

Diogo Gago, just started racing 3 years ago! First year he got ups and downs, won the last race in the Fastbravo (Seat Marbella) trophee! In 2011 was the man to beat in the Fastbravos, won 4 out of 5 events in tarmac (his favorite surface) and 2 out of 4 in gravel! Last year he switch to the Modelstand Cup and dominate like no other the Championship! 6 wins out of 7 events(2nd in the one he didn't win), but only 6 goes to the classification so he score top points all year long! He finish 1st in the 2RM category and 2nd in the Junior behind a guy that drives a Lancer Evo VI Gr.A. In the last rally in his hometown he drove a C2 R2Max to 2nd overall in the stormy, foggy and rain conditions!

I know all this because we started racing the same year (i'm a codriver) and allways on the same cups! Really nice guy, and very fast, due to his mental strengh! In Portugal recces are free, you do as much as passes you want, but Diogo only passes twice like in WRC even if he knowed that he was learning less the stage than other guys! Trust the co-driver that is one of the best here, and the notes!

Hope you're enjoying see him go, I know I am, and believe that he will be faster next times out (he only tested friday night a few km)

Cheers

[tommeke_B]

Looks like Charles Martin is setting great times again! Another young talented driver to keep an eye on in the next couple of years... Regarding his experience he is doing really great, if his name was Sébastien he would be a future world champion. :D

[vino_93]

for sure Martin is the revelation of this beginning of season in France ! Great times in the Touquet, great again here ... I wish him all the best !

[Juha_Koo]

Interesting, according to Rallye-Magazine, two finnish drivers(Max Vatanen and Jussi Punumäki)are thinking about entering the french 208 Cup ;)

I believe you mean Jussi Kumpumäki :)

[Tom206wrc]

MAXIMUM ATTACK from Kevin Abbring this morning(SS7 and 8)who takes the lead in 208 cup from Stéphane Lefèbvre !!!! :eek: :D :bounce:

[vino_93]

extraordinary what he is doing ! eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Terre des Causses 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=7991&t=Rallye-Terre-des-Causses-2013)

And Chieusse is pushing hard to win the race !

[Susiraja]

Anynews what happened to Vincent Dubert on stage 8? Seems to have lost almost 15 minutes.

[Tom206wrc]

Too many reliabilty problems on the 208 R2s especially regarding the belt of the water pump in the engine, according to some spectators writing on rally forums... :mark:
Rabasse and Dubert were the latest "victims"(SS8) :(

[MartijnS]

Abbring wins! :D Nice!

[Tom206wrc]

Overall only 0"3 gap between Lionel Baud and Paul Chieusse :eek:

In 208 Cup Kevin Abbring indeed winner(13th overall) ahead of Stéphane Lefèbvre and Charles Martin ;)

[mousti]

What a great battle like expected in the 208cup! And great victory for Abbring!!

[darkstar]

indeed, nice performance, nice cup! looking forward to some videos!

[vino_93]

classification of the rally : eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Terre des Causses 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=7991&s=&category=&t=Rallye-Terre-des-Causses-2013)
208 Cup classification : eWRC-results.com - results Rallye Terre des Causses 2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=7991&s=&section=199&t=Rallye-Terre-des-Causses-2013)

and the point on the championships :
gravel : eWRC-results.com - Season 2013 rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?season=2013&section=44&t=France-gravel)
Peugeot : eWRC-results.com - Season 2013 rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?season=2013&section=199&t=France-Volant-Peugeot)

[jbmarcus21]

Lyon Charbo
Google Earth Map is out
Rallye Lyon Charbonnières 2013 (http://planetemarcus.com/rallye-lyon-charbonnieres-2013/)

[br21]

During first day Abbring struggled with lack of grip, but then they changed a setup a lot and second day was much, much better! Great driving by him and by a lot of other drivers. I think one of most exciting cups this season.

[Tom206wrc]

David Salanon at the wheels of a Citroën C4 WRC in Lyon-Charbonnières(held 20th/21st april) :eek:
Overall, there will be at least 13 WRC on the second round of french tarmac championship ;)

[darkstar]

here´s a nice video, tron quite spectacular at 1:09, 3:53 and 4:20:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gQDkL0267kY

[darkstar]

and here you can quite nicely compare the 208 cup drivers, starting at around 2:00 including crash of prive:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mEr6SkehQVg

[Tom206wrc]

Cédric Robert back to the Citroën Racing Trophy(he won it in 2011)in a DS3 R3 the Rallye de Lyon-Charbonnières ;)
Same for Charles Martin(who impressed in Touquet and Causses in the 208 R2)...

[EightGear]

A nice little report from the 208 Cup.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DemOgXHMGeo

[Tom206wrc]

Official entrylist Rallye Lyon-Charbonnières ;)
Liste des engagés Rallye Lyon-Charbonnières 2013 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/liste-des-engages-rallye-lyon-charbonnieres-2013/)

Very high quality drivers in the new Opel Adam Cup :)

[Fly]

Make or break season for Demaerschalck in the DS3 Trophy.

[vino_93]

Official entrylist Rallye Lyon-Charbonnières ;)
Liste des engagés Rallye Lyon-Charbonnières 2013 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/liste-des-engages-rallye-lyon-charbonnieres-2013/)

Very high quality drivers in the new Opel Adam Cup :) quite incredible entry list ... what a message send to FFSA with their stupid coeff.

[vino_93]

My pictures from Rallye de Neufchâtel en Braye, small rally in Normandy : eWRC-results.com - archive and online results from WRC and rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=7992&t=Rallye-Regional-de-Neufchatel-en-Braye-2013)

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_regional_de_neufchatel_en_braye_2013/tbr_neufchtel%20en%20braye%2013%20127.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_regional_de_neufchatel_en_braye_2013/tbr_neufchtel%20en%20braye%2013%20515.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_regional_de_neufchatel_en_braye_2013/tbr_neufchtel%20en%20braye%2013%20344.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_regional_de_neufchatel_en_braye_2013/tbr_neufchtel%20en%20braye%2013%20663.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_regional_de_neufchatel_en_braye_2013/tbr_neufchtel%20en%20braye%2013%20477.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

A few pics of today's shakedown of Rallye Lyon-Charbonnières ;)
Photos Rallye Lyon-Charbonnières 2013 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-lyon-charbonnieres-2013/)

Start first leg tomorrow friday from 11.00am PatricK Soft (http://www.patricksoft.fr/)

[tommeke_B]

FFSA | 65me Rallye Lyon-Charbonnires Rhne - 2013 (http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?if1=ES_2&&if2=CUMUL_2&&idEpr=2&&typeCr=Bibost%20-%20Bessenay%20-%20Pitival%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20% 20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20&&id=2083&&catCourse=ral&&typf=both&&typRes=tem)

Great battle! Brunson and Maurin on par... :)

[tommeke_B]

julien saunier charbo 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh3Rb9rTsn4) :)

[dimviii]

julien saunier charbo 2013 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh3Rb9rTsn4) :)

even with 3 cylinders :D

[Tom206wrc]

As expected, nobody can match Cédric Robert in the Citroën Racing Trophy at Lyon-Charbonnières :p :
But great battle for 2nd place between Fabien Michal, Matthieu Maurage and Kevin Demaerschalk ;)
Punctures for Vincent Dubert and Sylvain Michel on SS1(4' and 6' lost) ;(

Awsome battle in the new Opel Adam Cup :eek:
Santoni, Jouines and Bonato are fighting for the victory whereas the others(from Sirot)are a bit behind...

Interesting battle in the Citroën Junior DS3 R1(8 crews)with Oudot leading in front of Masse and Salas, and the female driver Couturier not far from podium :D

[tommeke_B]

RALLY CHARBONNIERES 2013 CRASH VERICEL - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3oisMGnByc) Some people will never learn... And apparently organizers don't learn from their mistakes either in France. Luckily nothing bad happened now.

[Tom206wrc]

Lots of things happened today since the start of leg two Lyon-Charbonnières :eek:
Crash of Dany Snobeck(First Motorsport Subaru), mechanical retirements for Pierre Roché(Prodrive Mini)and Gilles Nantet(Porsche ex-leader Michelin Trophy)...

Cuoq is new leader in front of Maurin and Baud after SS8 :D

In Citroën Racing Trophy(R3), if Cédric Robert still dominates the field by a fair margin(about 30"), Kevin Demaerschalk did really good times and takes second position at the expense of Matthieu Maurage and Fabien Michal ;)

The second loop of stages(rerun of 30km SS6 and 25km SS7)takes place in less than an hour...

[Tom206wrc]

Victory for Julien Maurin(Ford Fiesta WRC) ahead of Jean-Marie Cuoq(Citroën C4 WRC) and Lionel Baud(Whale WRC) ;)
Ludovic Gal, for the first time driving a Ford Fiesta S2000, won the trophée Michelin(and ended 8th overall)...
Cédric Robert won the 2WDs and Citroën Racing Trophy(10th overall)but Kevin Demaerschalk took the final 2nd position(12th overall) :cool:
Rémi Jouines won the first french Opel Adam Cup ahead of Yoann Bonato and Olivier Marty...
Antoine Masse won the first Citroën Junior trophy ahead of Jean-Sébastien Oudot and Ségolène Couturier(first ever lady on the podium of a make cup ??? :D )

Bring on LIMOUSIN now !!!! :bounce:

[tommeke_B]

Remarkable how much Maurin improved compared to last year(s). Nice to see, also nice to see how a 1.6L WRC seems to be able to match a 2.0L WRC in France. :)

Remarkable result from Kevin Demaerschalk to, amazing that he was able to match and beat Robert's times several times. Especially regarding he hadn't been in a modern rallycar for 5 months, and regarding he did not test before... :)

[Tom206wrc]

This coming week-end Rallye de la Lys in northern France, with two british drivers in WRC cars(Fenwick in Hyundai and Henry in Ford) ;)

[vino_93]

I'll be there, at least the first day :)
Another interesting thing is the come back of Christiann with his Corolla. He has done two "régional" events with Celica (Vervins and Neufchâtel), and now he is joining Barbara and Bayard with WRC in the North !

@Tom : it's Hendy, not Henry :p

[EightGear]

Lara Vanneste will be back with Kevin Abbring in Limousin.

[Tom206wrc]

Only for Limousin or for the entire 208 Cup :confused:

[EightGear]

Only for Limousin, rest of the season Pieter Vyncke again like in Causses.

[Tom206wrc]

Return of Jean-Sébastien Vigion on an S2000 next week at the Rallye du Limousin(car to be announced this week as the entrylist should be available on friday) :)

[vino_93]

My pictures from Rallye de la Lys :
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_national_de_la_lys_2013/tbr_rallye%20de%20la%20lys%202013%20472.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_national_de_la_lys_2013/tbr_rallye%20de%20la%20lys%202013%20087.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/rallye_national_de_la_lys_2013/tbr_rallye%20de%20la%20lys%202013%20554.jpg

http://www.ewrc-resu...-de-la-Lys-2013 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=10216&t=Rallye-National-de-la-Lys-2013)

[vino_93]

Fenwick crash :eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uwyqJomFmg0

[noel157]

Return of Jean-Sébastien Vigion on an S2000 next week at the Rallye du Limousin(car to be announced this week as the entrylist should be available on friday) :)

Tom, how is Vigion looked upon by fans after all the, how shall I say, ups and downs of the last few years?

[Tom206wrc]

Finally a 207 S2000 for Vigion, and a new codriver: Caroline Escudero(Alexandre Bengué's codriver and girlfriend) ;)
Vigion au Limousin en 207 S2000 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/vigion-au-limousin-en-207-s2000/)

[Tom206wrc]

Entrylist Rallye du Limousin :cool:
Liste des engagés Rallye du Limousin 2013 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/liste-des-engages-rallye-du-limousin-2013/)

In Group R, and especially in R2 battle promises to be epic !!! :bounce:

A girl sucks her own tampon in a video to get famous, but i support her Today i notice a shocking news: There's a girl called Giovanna Plowman, who made a video of herself sucking on her own tampon. She has sweet demeanor and girl-next-door appearance, but that's not how they're going to remember her. Can you believe that? In her video she even sucked her tampon, in the process, she also seemed too awfull and discomfortable. She had to suck it cleanly with the aid of a glass of water.

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8PM_nqnXeE&feature=youtu.be - Onboard with Demaerschalk-Jamoul-DS3 R3. :)

[Tom206wrc]

To follow Rallye du Limousin from tomorrow friday, as usual, PatricK Soft (http://www.patricksoft.fr) ;)

[Fly]

Demaerschalk + 13 min on stage 2... Not a good start for my fellow countryman.

[MartijnS]

Abbring on an excellent pace again! 18 seconds in the lead after two stages :)

[Fly]

Abbring on an excellent pace again! 18 seconds in the lead after two stages :)

Yes, Flying Dutchman on fire!!! I'm surprised by Cherain, faster than Martin, Lefebvre and Consani. Tyre choice???

[EightGear]

Abbring on an excellent pace again! 18 seconds in the lead after two stages :)

9th overall on SS1. :D

[tommeke_B]

Abbring on an excellent pace again! 18 seconds in the lead after two stages :)

Don't forget Cherain... 11,4s after two stages. :)

[irish_tiger]

What is wrong with Stéphane Constani ? Was expecting him to be faster ???

[MartijnS]

Don't forget Cherain... 11,4s after two stages. :)

Missed him indeed ;)

[tommeke_B]

FFSA | 47me Rallye Rgion Limousin-Lac de Vassivire - 2013 (http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?if1=ES_5&&if2=CUMUL_5&&idEpr=5&&typeCr=St%20Moreil%20-%20St%20Priest%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20 %20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%2 0&&id=2125&&catCourse=ral&&typf=both&&typRes=tem) Very exciting fight between Brunson and Maurin! Brunson leading now. Maurin has been leading. After SS3 they were on par... :)

[Tom206wrc]

Yep indeed surprised by Chérain too :eek:
I was expecting Abbring to be fastest of the 208 Cup, but in te top10...wow :eek:
Very gutted by Demaerschalk mistake(off SS2)otherwise he was even faster than Robert on SS4, 5 and 6 ;(

[mousti]

Battle for the win very exciting aswell! Brunson leading with 2.4 secs in front of again a very strong Julien Maurin!

[Tom206wrc]

Pics of Limousin(day one yesterday friday) ;)
Photos Rallye du Limousin 2013 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-limousin-2013/)

In less than one hour starts the second leg...

[wwbroe]

Cuoq seems to have found the right rythm today, after first stage of the day he takes the overall lead of the rally.

[wwbroe]

Cuoq seems to have found the right rythm today, after first stage of the day he takes the overall lead of the rally, in front of Maurin who is now second and Brunson in third. ;)

[wwbroe]

Look at Abbring's time on the frist stage, 6th time on the board!!! What is the weather like today? :eek:

[EightGear]

See this, VW? :D

[wwbroe]

No more Brunson after second stage of the day???

[HaCo]

According to twitter:

Graham Quinn (@GQuinn27) heeft getweet om 1:38 PM on za, mei 11, 2013:
Our S12b slid off the road and out of the lead in Rally Limousin..Tricky conditions.Next stop Corsica test with the MINI and @steph_sarrazin
(https://twitter.com/GQuinn27/status/333184249131839488)

Download de officiële Twitter-app op https://twitter.com/download

Good for Maurin. I'm starting to like French championship more and more. Also every evening resume of the rally, including cups. Well done ffsa, FIA can learn from that!


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[HaCo]

I see Cuoq is in the lead now.

Cherain not doing bad, only Abbring is in front of him with 50sec in the same car.

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[HaCo]

I guess the 4th time of Demaerschalck is an error?

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[MartijnS]

Don't think so..

[HaCo]

Looked at the times of the other stages, you must be right. Fabulous time from him then!!! Wonder what he encountered on ss2 where he lost 13 mins?

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[EightGear]

Some electrical problem for Abbring on SS10, car was running on 3 cylinders some times. He stopped and lost 20 seconds. SS11 went better, still in the lead. Service now.

A shame that Maurin had a puncture, the battle for the overall lead is over now.

[wwbroe]

Chérain is setting amazing times also, coming close to Abbring now. Also great performance by DeMaerschalck but he lost a lot of time with an off on stage 2.

[vino_93]

According to twitter:

Graham Quinn (@GQuinn27) heeft getweet om 1:38 PM on za, mei 11, 2013:
Our S12b slid off the road and out of the lead in Rally Limousin..Tricky conditions.Next stop Corsica test with the MINI and @steph_sarrazin
(https://twitter.com/GQuinn27/status/333184249131839488)

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Good for Maurin. I'm starting to like French championship more and more. Also every evening resume of the rally, including cups. Well done ffsa, FIA can learn from that!


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oh for sure no, FIA don't have to take our championship in example.
First of all, look at the repartition of the rallies in France ... well, it's a joke. On 9 rounds, you have only 1 in the North (Le Touquet), and the 8 other are in the South East part of France. Limousin is a bit in the Center, but for the rest ... when a new round has to be chosen, they choose Mâcon, which is very closed to Lyon, whereas there are beautiful races in all part of the country, as in La Rochelle.
And for sure the calendar could be better organized geographically speaking, because beautiful races are not all in South East. Using coeff 5 rallies in French Cup to do a rotation, and it could be perfect, including all parts of France.

In a second way, there is some stupid coefficients. On 9 rounds, two are coeff 1. WHy Coeff 1 ? Because the organizers aren't in good term with FFSA. :) The Rallye Lyon Charbonnière had coeff 1, but he has the best entry list for the moment in French Champ, and is one of the favourite rally of all drivers...

Then, we can talk about the way to do the classification. I have no problem with point for classes. It's good for drivers who can't afford big cars. But ... it is done by the most stupid way. When in a class there is less than 3 drivers involved, points are divided by two (logic, it's easiest to win your class when you are alone), except if you are in the Top 10 of the rally. As you know, a driver has to registered to take point in championship.
But ... to know how many cars there is in a rally, FFSA counts all cars taking part to the event - and not only the one who subscribed for the championship.
So since the beginning of the year, Gatti is taking all points in A7 category as he is the only one from this category, and other drivers entered races, but aren't registered.
So he has 30 pts, and will have 20 more this week end ... and you can have a guy in another category, alone too, but with only 2 times less points than him, because there wasn't other cars starting the rally outside of the championship ...

Then, subscribe to the championship ... is that logic ? Amateur drivers have to paid, and it costs a lot for them. Instead of running less and less km, maybe delete this would attract more amateur drivers.


So yes our championship is quite good, he has nice trophies, good drivers, etc etc ... but there is a lot of things to change.

[vino_93]

epic battle in Opel Cup. Jouines is leading by 1"5 ahead of Bonato before the last stage :eek:
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results.php?e=6646&s=37991&section=294&t=Rallye-Region-Limousin-Lac-de-Vassivière-2013

[MartijnS]

Abbring extended the gap in the final two stages and wins :) Really good rally again + 7th overall

[mousti]

I think Cherain made a mistake of had a flat tire on the penultimate stage and with that losing the 2nd place on the final stage to Lefebvre :(

[Kielder]

Really a difficult corner...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKDsmR0CcAIQkfT.jpg:large

[tommeke_B]

This time Eric Brunson didn't want the stage to be stopped to get his car out, apparently :D

[vino_93]

All classification of french championships :
main champ : eWRC-results.com - Season 2013 rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?season=2013&section=28&t=France-tarmac)
Amateur Trophy : eWRC-results.com - Season 2013 rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?season=2013&section=263&t=France-Amateur-Trophy)
CRT : eWRC-results.com - Season 2013 rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?season=2013&section=198&t=France-Citroen-Racing-Trophy)
Peugeot : eWRC-results.com - Season 2013 rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?season=2013&section=199&t=France-Volant-Peugeot)
Opel : eWRC-results.com - Season 2013 rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?season=2013&section=294&t=France-Opel-Cup)
Twingo R2 : eWRC-results.com - Season 2013 rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?season=2013&section=202&t=France-Trophee-Twingo-R2)
Junior : eWRC-results.com - Season 2013 rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?season=2013&section=200&t=France-Junior)
CRT Junior : eWRC-results.com - Season 2013 rally (http://www.ewrc-results.com/season.php?season=2013&section=248&t=France-Citroen-Racing-Trophy-Junior)