News from France

[Mirek]

R1 don't have limited slip differential I think. That may be the reason.

[Sulland]

Correct, but they are running Twingo and Fiesta in the UK, and Fiesta in Norway sucsessfully. They run their own class or cup, so should not matter. It is an entryclass or a budgetclass LSM or not.

The Fiesta in Norway has been a huge succsess, both in speed and reliability. A lot of car for little money! A perfect juniorcup car imo!

[titi_62]

R1's cars are allowed in french gravel rallys but he junior Championship takes place only on tarmac rallys so nobody buy a twingo or fiesta for these rallys. An old 205 or 206 is less expensive and faster so... It's nearly the same in French amateur cup...

[Tom206wrc]

129 crews on entrylist of Rallye terre de Lozère now :up:
No Andrea Crugnola on it though(DS3 Trophy) :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Famous driver and team manager Philippe Bugalski just died today from an accidental falling(from a tree at his home's garden if I understood well) ;(
He was 49...

R.I.P. condolences to family :(

[titi_62]

RIP Philippe Bugalski... :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpuINNcv8Rs

[wwbroe]

R.I.P. Philippe, you were a great person, not only as a rallydriver but also as a human being, always smiling and ready for a good joke, but also serious if it was necessary. What a great loss. My condolences to your family and friends.

[Tom206wrc]

Entrylist of Rallye terre de Lozère in seeded order published yesterday wednesday :cool:
Just can't wait for next week :bounce:

I'll strongly support Keith Cronin, I'm sure he can show us fantastic performance on french gravel, especially on an unknown event for all the participants(so knowledge and experience shouldn't be so useful) ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Results services for Rallye terre de Lozère this coming week-end ;)
Lozère (http://www.brennusinfo.fr/2012/Lozere2012/Lozere.aspx)
FFSA | 1er Rallye Terre de Lozre Sud de France - 2012 (http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?id=1672&catCourse=ral)



By the way, during this week we should also know entrylist of Rallye du Mont-Blanc, next round of french tarmac championship(held next week) :cool:

[Tom206wrc]

Surprise !!! British driver Harry Hunt would run Mont-Blanc in a 207 S2000 !!!! :eek:

Anyway, entrylist should be published tomorrow friday at 3.00pm(gmt+1) ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Entrylist Rallye du Mont-Blanc available ;)
Liste des engagés Rallye du Mont-Blanc 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/liste-des-engages-rallye-du-mont-blanc-2012)

[Jeppe]

2nd Surprise!!! Finnish Mikko Pajunen comes to run Clio R3 n#32. Nice to see what is Mikko´s pace against Clio top drivers!

[tout]

Julien Maurin Ford Fiesta WRC Essais pré-Mont blanc 2012


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjW-eaPiAyo&feature=player_embedded

[Tom206wrc]

Results services for Rallye terre de Lozère this coming week-end ;)
Lozère (http://www.brennusinfo.fr/2012/Lozere2012/Lozere.aspx)
FFSA | 1er Rallye Terre de Lozre Sud de France - 2012 (http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?id=1672&catCourse=ral)
...



Keith Cronin second best time of the DS3s(8th overall)on SS1 !!!! That only confirms the talent of the irish driver ;)
Best of DS3s was Vincent Dubert(6th overall)after a good training in Finland WRC few weeks ago :)

[Tom206wrc]

Rallye terre de Lozère - day 2 - first loop of stages:

Germain Bonnefis can't be worried for the victory if mechanical parts hold until the end...
A battle is engaged for the 2nd place between Noël Tron(leader of GrN)and Paul Chieusse(in the good ol whale a certain Marcus Grönholm used to drive :D )separated by 3"5...

Battle in the Citroën Trophy is absolutely CRAZY, and four drivers can fight for the win again :eek:
Quentin Gilbert is now leading a certain gap of 12"...but only 2" separate Stéphane Consani, Jean-Sébastien Vigion and Keith Cronin for the gain of 2nd position :up:

The last loop of the rally looks promising :bounce:

[Tom206wrc]

Puncture and wheel change for Keith Cronin in SS9...game over for him in the fight for podium of Citroën trophy, 5 minutes lost ;(
Maybe he can still end in points like in Limousin(where he also been hampered by a puncture) :rolleyes:

[irish_tiger]

Tom this Rally is run under the Mille Piste System where by you only get one pass for recee in the Rally car do you know if there is much Illegal recee goes on before the rally with this system ? And also is this being used for the next round of the DS3 Trophy ?

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkfl-GUDVcU&feature=player_embedded

[dimviii]

What do you think dimvii? Will he lose more than 1s/km to Loix, Bouffier and Robert? :p

looks slow,but ok isn t it first attempt with s2000?

[Tom206wrc]

Tom this Rally is run under the Mille Piste System where by you only get one pass for recee in the Rally car do you know if there is much Illegal recee goes on before the rally with this system ? And also is this being used for the next round of the DS3 Trophy ?


First, an interesting statement from Cronin after the rallye de Lozère: he WANTS to run the two last events of the french Citroën trophy(Cardabelles and Var) ;)
For the Cardabelles, being on gravel, he will face the same "recce problem" as in Lozère(as mentionned Tommeke)but in the Var, despite his lack of knowledge of the rally, he can get a very good result... :)

[Tom206wrc]

So tomorrow friday early in the morning starts the Rallye du Mont-Blanc ;)
Unfortuneately I'll miss the three first stages :mark:
PatricK Soft (http://www.patricksoft.fr/)

[tolis]

SD video: Rallye du Mont Blanc 2012 shakedown [HD] - Vidéo Dailymotion (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xtczew_rallye-du-mont-blanc-2012-shakedown-hd_auto)

[glouts]

essais pré mont-blanc gilles nantet porsche 997 gt3+, enjoy

Vidéos de rallye, photos de rallye sur toute la France : Glouts vidéo (http://www.glouts-videos.com/videos)

[Jeppe]

Now also Mikko Pajunen´s shakedown incar with Gima Autosport Clio R3 online

Mikko Pajunen & Kaj Lindström Shakedown Rally Mont Blanc 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FTQ1KHfHiI&sns=em)

[Jeppe]

Mikko Pajunen´s shakedown incar with Gima Autosport Clio R3 online:

Mikko Pajunen & Kaj Lindström Shakedown Rally Mont Blanc 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FTQ1KHfHiI&sns=em)

[Jeppe]

Amazing start for Mikko & Kaj in the Mont Blanc. 2nd fastest R3 car and only +2,6s behind Arzeno!!!

[titi_62]

Pajunen went off the road on SS2... I don't know him, who is it ?

[tolis]

Pajunen went off the road on SS2... I don't know him, who is it ?
eWRC-results.com - profile Mikko Pajunen (http://ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=9748&t=Mikko-Pajunen)

[Jeppe]

Pajunen went off the road on SS2... I don't know him, who is it ?

..due to technical problems. What a shame!

[Co-FIN]

..

[Tom206wrc]

Not so bad Harry Hunt for a debut in S2000: 17th overall after SS3, just in front of Jean-Matthieu Léandri in same car(even if Léandri is more a gentleman driver and lacks of experience in Mont-Blanc) ;)

SuperBryan is 8th overall with already a gap of 33" over FastFreddy ;)
But what to say about Gilles Nantet, ahead of all S2000s in his Porsche(and leading Trophée Michelin) :D

[glouts]

test days sainteloc arzeno, robert, gal, leandri, burri

Vidéos de rallye, photos de rallye sur toute la France : Glouts vidéo (http://www.glouts-videos.com/videos)

[Tom206wrc]

Why I'm not surprised Dany Snobeck crashed in SS5, last stage of first leg :rolleyes:

[titi_62]

SS1 with Gilles Nantet and his Porsche GT+, 3rd time, beautiful video !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uo0BwLOLuH0

[darkstar]

great performace from arzeno and gilbert in the ds3´s! some time ago i heard people saying gilbert is the new loeb...now he´s almost as fast as arzeno on asphalt, while gravel is his more familiar surface. it seems a bit more now that there might be something true in it. because i consider arzeno as a pretty fast asphalt dirver.

[Fly]

great performace from arzeno and gilbert in the ds3´s! some time ago i heard people saying gilbert is the new loeb...now he´s almost as fast as arzeno on asphalt, while gravel is his more familiar surface. it seems a bit more now that there might be something true in it. because i consider arzeno as a pretty fast asphalt dirver.

Yes, Gilbert is getting very fast on asphalt too. I saw that in Ieper. He just makes some mistakes from time to time. But he's learning.
I've been following French gravel and asphalt championship for years, and I must say the number of up and coming drivers is tremendous.
Arzeno, Gilbert, Dubert, Chardonnet,...
They are set to be one of the dominant nation in the WRC for another decade with Ogier and co...

[darkstar]

did bouffier, robert, gilbert and arzeno all crash?

edit: ah found something, robert mechanical, bouffier crash, gilbert mechanical and arzeno lost a lot of time (about 10 minutes) somewhere, dont know why.

[HaCo]

Joux Verte stage, known from Richard Burns Rally superb rallygame.

[Mirek]

The RBR stage is just inspired by the real one. The look is quite a lot different to original. Onboard of Joux Verte with Jean Ragnotti is somewhere on youtube.

[EightGear]

It is actually quite funny to see names like Cote d' Arbroz, Joux Plane and Joux Verte on the stage maps. :)

[Juha_Koo]

The RBR stage is just inspired by the real one. The look is quite a lot different to original. Onboard of Joux Verte with Jean Ragnotti is somewhere on youtube.

Yeah, good word to use (inspired). All original stages in RBR incorporate some certain small details, like on Joux Plane (Mont Blanc) those wooden "rails" (3:36 e.g.), GB stages have bridges exactly like real Pirelli Rally (without wooden fences though), Hokkaido had some water drainage grills going across the road (these could be seen on real onboards few years back), etc. RBR, released 2004, still going strong. :)

[wwbroe]

did bouffier, robert, gilbert and arzeno all crash?

edit: ah found something, robert mechanical, bouffier crash, gilbert mechanical and arzeno lost a lot of time (about 10 minutes) somewhere, dont know why.

Well Bouffier and Robert both went off on same place in stage 7. Bouffier lost a wheel and Robert had puncture, but continued on rim (front right) and made it to the finish of the stage, loosing about 2,5 minutes. He then retired on roadsection to stage 8. Both Arzeno and Gilbert hit problems on stage 8, i sawzeno coming true to the end of the stage but he lost a considerable amounbt of time on that stage. Gilbert never came out of the stage, but i don't know if he went off or not.

[Tom206wrc]

Arzeno went off twice on the same stage(where he lost 6')due to problem of brakes :mark:
Also Burri Jr went off in the same place me thinks(lost about 11') :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Two british drivers in WRC cars at next week Rallye du Béthunois(northern France) :eek:
Andrew Fenwick(Hyundai)and Steve Hendy(Ford Focus) ;)
They'll face local drivers José Barbara(Subaru)and Laurent Bayard(Toyota)

[glouts]

quelques photos des essais d'Harry Hunt ici: Vidéos de rallye, photos de rallye sur toute la France : Glouts vidéo (http://www.glouts-videos.com/photo/photos/2012/essais-pre-mont-blanc-harry-hunt)


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[Mirek]

Alex Bengue tested works Fabia S2000. The small video is officially released by Škoda but without any comments... maybe a program of Škoda in French championship next year?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQv7vukFGKo&feature=youtu.be&a

[mousti]

even a small photoshoot, so it must be something for the future probably..

[Wim_Impreza]

Two british drivers in WRC cars at next week Rallye du Béthunois(northern France) :eek:
Andrew Fenwick(Hyundai)and Steve Hendy(Ford Focus) ;)
They'll face local drivers José Barbara(Subaru)and Laurent Bayard(Toyota)

There will be some Belgian drivers: Filip Pyck (Lancer Evo 9), Piet Declercq (Lancer Evo 7) and Bart Vanhaverbeke (Mercedes 500 SLC).

Entry list: http://www.rallyedubethunois.fr/Documentation/listepartant.php

[glouts]

The video of the rally of Mont Blanc is on-line on our web site, good viewing


Vidéos de rallye, photos de rallye sur toute la France : Glouts vidéo (http://www.glouts-videos.com/videos)

[Tofrallye29]

Alex Bengue tested works Fabia S2000. The small video is officially released by Škoda but without any comments... maybe a program of Škoda in French championship next year?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQv7vukFGKo&feature=youtu.be&a
I recognized one of the photographers from Echappement (a French magazine), sometimes Alex writes articles for them ;)

[glouts]

retrouvez sur le site plus de 250 photos de Mr Pépé, enjoy


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[glouts]

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[Tom206wrc]

A simply FABULOUS entrylist for the Rallye Vosgien in eastern France, this coming week-end :cool:
Vosgien (http://www.brennusinfo.fr/2012/vosgien2012/vosgien.aspx)

You can't miss it on this forum and thread if you're a true rally fan :p :

[Tom206wrc]

Oh I forgot: this coming week-end Rallye du Surran welcomes the swiss rallies championship too ;)

[noel157]

A simply FABULOUS entrylist for the Rallye Vosgien in eastern France, this coming week-end :cool:
Vosgien (http://www.brennusinfo.fr/2012/vosgien2012/vosgien.aspx)

You can't miss it on this forum and thread if you're a true rally fan :p :

Nice top 4 Tom with Ostberg and Hirvonen along with Consani in the Mini. Who is running Chardonnet in the DS3 WRC? PH Sport?

[noel157]

Or Citroen Sport because of Daniel Elena?

[Tom206wrc]

Mikko Hirvonen best time SS1 Rallye Vosgien ahead of Mads Östberg and Sébastien Chardonnet ;)
Stéphane Consani already crashed his Mini :mark:
Fantastic 4th best time for Eric Mauffrey back in the legendary 306 Maxi(the one belonging to J-M Cuoq) :D
Awful weather(violent rain) on stages :s

FFSA | 27e Rallye Vosgien - 2012 (http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?id=1673&catCourse=ral)

[mousti]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/60678_10151043516860754_2090025710_n.jpg

The damage...

[darkstar]

i would love to see mauffrey in he 306 maxi live, i always liked him best with that car.

[noel157]

Crazy wet conditions last night:

Rallye Vosgien 2012 Preview ES1 Nuit: Hirvonen - Ostberg [HD] TOTOFMAN PROD Pure Sound - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5yH1IK0oYY&feature=player_embedded)

[Tom206wrc]

7" between Hirvonen and Östberg after SS5 this saturday morning ;)
Chardonnet took the 3rd position from Mauffrey...

[Tom206wrc]

Mikko Hirvonen won Rallye Vosgien ahead of Mads Östberg and Sébastien Chardonnet ;)

Brilliant victory of Raphaël Michaud(309 F2000)at the rallye du Suran ahead of Nicolas Althaus(207 S2000, swiss winner)and Nicolas Roux(Octavia WRC) :cool:
Ivan Ballinari(207 S2000)lost everything on a 7km long stage(lost 5' on it) :(
Results rallye du Suran on Nouvelle page 2 (http://www.mks2.fr/)

In Corsica(rallye de Corté Centre Corse)very tight result for the first leg between Pascal Trojani(whale)and Marc Valliccioni(206 wrc)...1"2 after three 21km long passages :D
Rallyes de Corse - classements (http://www.corserallyes.com/)

[uranium]

It would be nice to improve site. Rather impossible to read, to find info in my humble opinion :(

Edit: I mean site with french results, not this one :)

[MJW]

Has anybody got links to hi res photos of Sebastien Chardonnet's car?

[dimviii]

Has anybody got links to hi res photos of Sebastien Chardonnet's car?

try here
RHphotograph - Photos de rallye - Rallye Vosgien 2012 (http://rhphotograph.free.fr/rallye-sportmeca/photos/2012/rallye/vosgien/vosgien.html)

plus2rallye.fr - Vosgien-2012 (http://plus2rallye.fr/index.php/component/phocagallery/category/17-vosgien-2012)

Rallye Vosgien 2012 - Rallye25 (http://rallye25.doomby.com/album/rallye-vosgien-2012/)

Photos Rallye Vosgien 2012 | Rallye-Addict.com (http://www.rallye-addict.com/photos-rallye-vosgien-2012/)

[Mirek]

It's common in France that websites look like they are made by a 8-year old kid... Anyway the level of organisation in France is very high, in general! :)

Hmm, I heard quite an opposite from people who did Rallye du Var as competitors - always complained that it's incredible chaos in organization things...

I was personally only on Monte Carlo and just as a spectator but what I can say is that something like spectator safety doesn't exist there (except just few places with very strict rules). Usually it's like in the 80'...

[dimviii]

I was personally only on Monte Carlo and just as a spectator but what I can say is that something like spectator safety doesn't exist there (except just few places with very strict rules). Usually it's like in the 80'...

photos were unbelievable from Monte...

[vino_93]

Hmm, I heard quite an opposite from people who did Rallye du Var as competitors - always complained that it's incredible chaos in organization things...

I was personally only on Monte Carlo and just as a spectator but what I can say is that something like spectator safety doesn't exist there (except just few places with very strict rules). Usually it's like in the 80'...

I'm from Picardy (North of France). I was near to Nice some years ago for some hollidays, and go to see Rallye de l'Escarène (with the Col du Turini for example in stages). I was very shocked by the lack of security there ... compare to what I see in my region, it's incredible ! People seemed to be crazy ... crossed the road with baby when a car arrive, placed in dangerous corners ... and nothing is done to change it ! Wheras in North all is controlled, you can't go where you want, there's lot of security measures ... it's very different from where you are in France.

[darkos]

Rally France is great tarmac rally and should stay that way.

[irish_tiger]

Will be heading over to Rally Du Var from Ireland as Keith Cronin should be competing , doesnt seem to be much information about where the rally is based etc , had anybody any information as we would like to book flights etc ?

[Mirek]

Here is very good rally map from last year: Rallye du Var | France | Rally-Maps.com (http://www.rally-maps.com/country/France/rally/158/Rallye-du-Var)

Hope it helps.

[Tom206wrc]

Tomorrow wednesday will be published official entrylist of Rallye des Cardabelles(held next week), penultimate round of the french gravel championship :)
It'll be also the penultimate rounds of Peugeot and Citroën one-make cups...

http://www.rallye-des-cardabelles.org/

[PLuto]

Will be heading over to Rally Du Var from Ireland as Keith Cronin should be competing , doesnt seem to be much information about where the rally is based etc , had anybody any information as we would like to book flights etc ?

Rallye du Var is based in Sainte-Maxime, very close to St. Tropez. But be ready for everything. I was there last year for first time and despite I have seen lot of events over world and Europe, this one was really curious...

[titi_62]

Rallye du Var is known that one of the worst in franch championship in terms of organization.
Rallye Le Touquet is one of the best especially for safety but some french drivers don't like the muddy conditions at this rally.
Rallye Mont Blanc is really appreciated by drivers because of the roads.

[Tom206wrc]

I hope Quentin Gilbert's crash this morning in Alsace(Rallye de France WRC)won't force him to be forfait from next week's rallye terre des Cardabelles, whereas he's leading the Citroën Racing Trophy :mark:

[Tom206wrc]

Excellent news for our brit friends of the forum: having won the "junior prize" by Citroën Racing, Tom Cave(winner of last BRC event, rally Yorkshire)will take part to the last round of the french tarmac championship in november, the rallye du Var :bounce:

[Tom206wrc]

Althought Rallye d'Antibes is no part of ERC anymore, Luca Betti is back at the wheels of his 207 S2000 on entrylist ;)

[PLuto]

It is his home event. It will be easy victory for him...

[tolis]

It is his home event. It will be easy victory for him...
So, Betti is Italian and lives in Antibes? :)

[PLuto]

Luca lives in Cuneo, which is near the border between France and Italy. It is about 50 kms from Cuneo to Col de Turini (by air)...

[Tom206wrc]

As every year in France, there's the Finale de la Coupe de France des rallyes(french rallies cup final), and the 2012 edition takes place in Gap(southern)next week ;)

No idea about entrylist yet :confused:
For reminding, last year edition was a very fantastic duel between David Salanon(winner in his 306 Maxi)and Gilles Nantet(in BMW F2000 rather than his Porsche) ;)

[vino_93]

Will not be the same level as last year, but it's always nice event. Lot of drivers doesn't to go to Gap, South East is difficult for drivers from North and West ... but that's always the same story. But this time it seems that Gap isn't very attractive ...

[vino_93]

always the same story :) It's always nice event, even if some local good drivers are missing ... but the place for the final is a bit strange since Dunkerque ... Hasparren, South West, very close to Spain. Gap, South East, very close to Italy, and Oyonnax ... close to Gap !
In 2011 it was Autun ... East side too, but well placed for drivers from South or Noth. And before it was change from each side of France year by year.

In don't understand why Oyonnax for 2013 ... very close to Autun and Gap ... why not going to West, to Center ? The finale has not to be only in the East side of France ...

[vino_93]

official entry list : RALLYGO.com » Documents (http://www.rallygo.com/go/documents/visit.php?cid=261&lid=4064)

not very exciting ... :( maybe one of the weakest of the last years.

[Tom206wrc]

CRAZY time by Thomas Privé on SS1 Rallye terre des Cardabelles !!! :crazy:
5th fastest overall in his DS3 R3T, more than 10" faster than other drivers of the Citroën Racing Trophy...only 12" slower than leader Manu Gascou in his S2000 during the 20km long stage :eek:
Privé is an excellent young driver on gravel, indeed, but it's only his third outing in the Citroën ;)

Results to be followed on FFSA | 29e Rallye Terre des Cardabelles - 2012 (http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?id=1674&catCourse=ral)

[vino_93]

He was French Gravel Champion in 2008 :) he won two rallies in 2008 (Diois and Vaucluse), had a difficult 2009 year ... he tried to do some international events but could only do Portugal. He did two 2nd place in French Gravel on 3 events. But from this time to now, he never did a complete championship... some events in France Tarmac in 2010, and this year a comeback on gravel, with 2WD cars ;)

Too bad that he has no money ... he is very promising !

[Tom206wrc]

A new french gravel star is "born" ??? Stéphane Consani in his DS3 R3T this sunday morning(second leg rallye terre Cardabelles): 3rd best time SS7, 4th best time SS8, 4th overall after first loop :eek:

[mas-racing]

Flandre Opale Rallye 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpNsXFIUjRs)

[irish_tiger]

A new french gravel star is "born" ??? Stéphane Consani in his DS3 R3T this sunday morning(second leg rallye terre Cardabelles): 3rd best time SS7, 4th best time SS8, 4th overall after first loop :eek:
Has anybody got a link to the leader board points table of the Citroen DS3 Trophy going into the last round Rally Du Var ?

[Tom206wrc]

Entrylist of next week's Critérium des Cévennes(penultimate round of tarmac championship)available ;)
CRITERIUM DES CEVENNES (http://www.criteriumdescevennes.com/)

Fast Freddy is back in the whale, as Sarrazin won't be available for the event...

[Tom206wrc]

Has anybody got a link to the leader board points table of the Citroen DS3 Trophy going into the last round Rally Du Var ?

On Citroën WRC - Les Rallyes WRC en direct avec Citroën Racing (http://www.citroen-wrc.com/)

1-Vigion 103 points
2-Gilbert 88 points
3-Consani 77 points
4-Arzeno 68 points
5-Dubert 63 points
6-Privé 39 points
7-Maurage & Chérain 27 points
9-Daumas 25 points
10-Chardonnet 23 points

;)

[titi_62]

Result for the final of french amateur rally cup (this year the final was in Gap, in the south of France) :
1 LATIL Nicolas Peugeot 207 S2000 1:20:50:1
2 FANGUIAIRE Eric Citroën Xsara Kit Car +0:01:7
3 GIRALDO Michel Peugeot 207 S2000 +1:54:9
4 GANGUET Christophe Peugeot 306 Maxi +3:03:1
5 MONNET Arnaud Peugeot 207 S2000 +4:45:8
6 ROCA Gilles Subaru Impreza +4:48:6
7 OBERTI Damien Citroën C2 R2 Max +4:56:2
8 CORDILLOT Florian Citroën Saxo Kit Car +5:40:3
9 LACOMY Laurent Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 9 +5:53:7

Great performance for Fanguiaire with his beautiful xsara kit car ex-Loeb, 2nd overall after loosing 20 seconds in a spin, and Oberti 7th overall with a C2 !

[vino_93]

Stéphae Sam-Caw-Fevre, from la Reunion, was doing a very good rally with his Escort (5th overall), before loosing time in the last stage ...

[Tom206wrc]

Rumour of presence of Robert Kubica in the Subaru WRC at next month Rallye du Var...can someone confirm :confused:

[vino_93]

Cuoq new french champion, after winning the Critérium des Cévennes !
eWRC-results.com - results Critrium des Cvennes 2012 (http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=4025&t=criterium-des-cevennes-2012)
Extraordinary race by Carminati :eek:

[mousti]

And so no Cuoq, Brunson and Loix in Var. Bad luck again for Loix :(

Carminati, Princen and Bonnefis did a great rally!

[dupanton]

And how about Vivens. 11th overall in a Peugeot 206 :o

[vino_93]

are you sure for no Cuoq in Var ?

dupanton : Vivens finished 2 times 10 with 106 and once 7th with Ax (:eek :) in the past ;)

[dupanton]

are you sure for no Cuoq in Var ?

dupanton : Vivens finished 2 times 10 with 106 and once 7th with Ax (:eek :) in the past ;)

In the French Championship? Never heard his name before :)

[vino_93]

yes, in the Critérium des Cévennes ;) he is from there, and do each year the rally.

[dupanton]

yes, in the Critérium des Cévennes ;) he is from there, and do each year the rally.

Ok, a pity he hasn't got the money to do the whole championship with a proper car then :(

[vino_93]

hI think he is not interesting in doing the whole championship ;) And he is the owner of his own team, and prepare his cars.

[Tom206wrc]

BIG SURPRISE !!!! Ari Vatanen's son, Max, will debut rally driving on next week's Rallye du Vaucluse(last round of french gravel championship)at the wheels of a 207 R3T :eek: :eek:

Entrylist ist rather interesting ;) Team Trevois : ENGAGES (http://www.teamtrevois.org/engages.asp)

[vino_93]

maybe the most interesting entry list this year in gravel champ ...
come back of Baud on gravel (eWRC-results.com - profile Lionel Baud (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=7829&t=Lionel-Baud)) and come back to rally for Beuzelin, former boss of BSA, who won this rally in 2004.
Interesting too to see two new drivers in S2000 :
eWRC-results.com - profile Nicolas Riviere (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=9998&t=Nicolas-Riviere)
eWRC-results.com - profile Stphane Pellerey (http://www.ewrc-results.com/profile.php?p=9240&t=Stephane-Pellerey)

[bluuford]

He alsos started in Saaremaa Rally around month ago with Clio. He retired on stage 5.
RALLI » Võistlused » Katkestajad (http://autosport.ee/rallyreg/?page=35&race_id=184&)



BIG SURPRISE !!!! Ari Vatanen's son, Max, will debut rally driving on next week's Rallye du Vaucluse(last round of french gravel championship)at the wheels of a 207 R3T :eek: :eek:

Entrylist ist rather interesting ;) Team Trevois : ENGAGES (http://www.teamtrevois.org/engages.asp)

[Tom206wrc]

Rumour of presence of Robert Kubica in the Subaru WRC at next month Rallye du Var...can someone confirm :confused:


On several french forums I read Kubica would be in Var with Greiffenberg's C4 WRC :confused:

[tommeke_B]

French forums... When it comes to who is going to drive in a certain event they always have a lot of fantasy, I would wait for an official confirmation ;)

[vino_93]

One thing is sure : Simon Pagenaud (Indycar) will start the Rallye du Var ! He will do this in a 207 S2000 ... or better if he can !

[MartijnS]

On several french forums I read Kubica would be in Var with Greiffenberg's C4 WRC :confused:

Robert Kubica with Citroën - Citroën WRC (http://www.citroen-wrc.com/en/2012/news/competition-clients-news/3692/robert-kubica-with-citroen/)

[tommeke_B]

Great news, looking forward to the event already. :)

[Tom206wrc]

Any news if Fast Freddy will also run in Var :confused:

[EightGear]

Any news if Fast Freddy will also run in Var :confused:

I think he will, at least Lara said something like that.

[wwbroe]

Any news if Fast Freddy will also run in Var :confused:

I think there might be a good possibility that Freddy will compete in Rallye du Var ;)

[tommeke_B]

Decision should be soon. Let's hope... :)

[mousti]

According to werner it will be a C4 from Ré (Tamauto) for Kubica

[werner]

According to werner it will be a C4 from Ré (Tamauto) for Kubica

New Info, it will be a C4 from PH sport France.

[wwbroe]

Does anybody have an idea about itinary and stages for upcoming Rally du Var? I don't seem to find too much info about the event. :confused:

[irish_tiger]

A friend of mine was able to find this , but thats all the information at the moment

240km stage mileage
734km total mileage

reece either the 17th/18th or the wednesday thursday before the rally;
max 3 passes through

Thursday 22 novembre 2012
14:00-19:00 : Shakedown

Friday 23 novembre 2012

13:08 : Départ du rallye (start ramp)
ES 1 - tink first stage is around half 2... no T&D out yet
ES 2
ES 3
ES 4
18:05 : Arrivée de la 1ère étape (back in parc ferme)

Saturday 24 novembre 2012
07:00 : Départ de la 2ème étape (first car out )
ES 5
ES 6
ES 7
ES 8
ES 9

Sunday 25 novembre 2012
05:40 : Départ de la 3ème étape
ES 10
ES 11
ES 12
11:50 : Arrivée du rallye

stages are a mix of last year/new/past years

[wwbroe]

A friend of mine was able to find this , but thats all the information at the moment

240km stage mileage
734km total mileage

reece either the 17th/18th or the wednesday thursday before the rally;
max 3 passes through

Thursday 22 novembre 2012
14:00-19:00 : Shakedown

Friday 23 novembre 2012

13:08 : Départ du rallye (start ramp)
ES 1 - tink first stage is around half 2... no T&D out yet
ES 2
ES 3
ES 4
18:05 : Arrivée de la 1ère étape (back in parc ferme)

Saturday 24 novembre 2012
07:00 : Départ de la 2ème étape (first car out )
ES 5
ES 6
ES 7
ES 8
ES 9

Sunday 25 novembre 2012
05:40 : Départ de la 3ème étape
ES 10
ES 11
ES 12
11:50 : Arrivée du rallye

stages are a mix of last year/new/past years

Thank you for this info, but i knew this allready. :)

I am looking for the names of the stages, so i can draw them into my maps. Any itinary would also be more then welcome. If somebody should have gps coordinates of start and finishplaces of the stages that would be awesome.

[PLuto]

To say the truth, Rallye du Var is from organisation point of view the biggest disaster which I have seen in my life. There is no surprise there is no info about the event, no webpages, organisers arent answering the crews which are asking for entry form... On Rallye du Valais I was asking clerk of the course of Rallye du Var and he told me, that he has no info too :D

[PLuto]

Walter, if you will go to Rallye du Var as spectator, you must be ready to everything...

[wwbroe]

Walter, if you will go to Rallye du Var as spectator, you must be ready to everything...

As i am going as a spectator i will try to be ready for anything.... :D

[Tom206wrc]

To say the truth, Rallye du Var is from organisation point of view the biggest disaster which I have seen in my life. There is no surprise there is no info about the event, no webpages, organisers arent answering the crews which are asking for entry form... On Rallye du Valais I was asking clerk of the course of Rallye du Var and he told me, that he has no info too :D


And of course, no provisional entrylist available, we will have to wait on 16th november for the seeded one :mark:

[PLuto]

As i am going as a spectator i will try to be ready for anything.... :D

Last year, I was also noticed by everybody that this event is one big disaster. So I was going there to be ready for anything. Despite it the result was much bigger than I was able to expect :)

[Tom206wrc]

To follow Rallye terre du Vaucluse from tomorrow morning saturday ;)
FFSA | Terre de Vaucluse - 2012 (http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?id=1974&catCourse=ral)

[tommeke_B]

Very nice list regarding the relatively weak gravel-championship they're having this year in France. :) Let's hope for a better championship next year (like in 09 with 3 (if I'm right) drivers who still competed for the title in the last event.

[Tom206wrc]

Crash SS1 Vaucluse for both sons of Bruyneel and Vatanen(Dimitri and Max) :(
Fantastic race for Stéphane Pellerey in the 207 S2000 so far :up:

Nouvelle page 2 (http://www.mks2.fr/)

[Tom206wrc]

Irish Keith Cronin is one of the first top drivers of the Citroën Racing Trophy to appear on pre-entrylist Rallye du Var ;)
RALLYGO.com » Documents (http://www.rallygo.com/go/documents/visit.php?cid=16&lid=4136)

[mas-racing]

video of the first Hoppelend Historic Rally 2012 ( France ) : Hoppeland Rally 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwtyzN5DsZ4)

[vino_93]

Irish Keith Cronin is one of the first top drivers of the Citroën Racing Trophy to appear on pre-entrylist Rallye du Var ;)
RALLYGO.com » Documents (http://www.rallygo.com/go/documents/visit.php?cid=16&lid=4136)
Nelson Lukes in Twingo R1, another track driver going to rally !

Eric Mauffrey in Nissan GT+16 ? :eek:

For the moment, not a lot of international entries :( but a lot of drivers are missing ... and already 116 guys on entry list !

[vino_93]

Just reed that Mauffrey has bought the 370Z van Woensel, and will do the whole 2013 championship with it :cool:

And it seems that Guillaume Canivenq will comeback next year in a GT+ too :p
Fabrice Bect announced that he will do the championship with a 207 S2000 (FJ.com)

[tommeke_B]

Kevin Demaerschalk on the list, with Fred Miclotte this time. :)

[Tom206wrc]

Craig Breen in Var in a 207 S2000 :bounce:

[tommeke_B]

Updated list... Riedemann with DS3, Bouffier with 208 R2 (to challenge Guigou with Twingo R2)... Will be nice :cool:

[tommeke_B]

Last weekend was the last event of "Terre de France", the French gravel championship. Bonnefis is champion.
Some crazy video from an event in crazy conditions, must watch! Terre De Vaucluse 2012 [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP7YwxUDxp8) :)

[vino_93]

Vouilloz won the Rallye du Pays du Haut Niçois, his first (and only ?) race of the year. Ludovic Gherardi with Fiesta S2000 was leading by 0,6 but he crashed. On second position there's Cyril Audirac, always very fast. Too bad he never had his chance to drive a big car in the French championship ...

[Tom206wrc]

Audirac will run in the Volant 207 in Var ;)

[OldF]

Last weekend was the last event of "Terre de France", the French gravel championship. Bonnefis is champion.
Some crazy video from an event in crazy conditions, must watch! Terre De Vaucluse 2012 [HD] - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP7YwxUDxp8) :)

That one should be the French WRC. :)

[tommeke_B]

I've been to this rally in 2009 and it was nice indeed, still I don't think the stages were on the level like a WRC-event. There are several very spectacular gravel-events in France. Maybe have a look at the youtube-channel of Rallye-MAD ;) He has been to Terre de l'Auxerrois and Terre de Langres, the closest events from Belgian and German border.

[Tom206wrc]

Finally Charlotte Dalmasso in Var at the wheels of a 207 S2000 from her father's team :eek:

[vino_93]

what's her father team ? :confused:

[pucky54]

what's her father team ? :confused:

PSF

[Tom206wrc]

Note british drivers Chris Ingram in Clio R3 and Guy Pearce in Twingo R2 in Var ;)

[rallymen123]

My pics from first Hoppelandrallye are online

[rallymen123]

My pics from Hoppeland Rally are online on www.bvrallypics.be (http://www.bvrallypics.be)

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/sized_Hoppeland2012100.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/sized_Hoppeland2012134.jpg
http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/rallymen123/sized_Hoppeland2012255.jpg

[noel157]

Nice pictures but this is French thread. Try here for Belgium thread : http://www.motorsportforums.com/european-national-rallying/155929-belgian-rally-news.html :)

[mousti]

That was a rally in France, Noel ;)

[noel157]

That was a rally in France, Noel ;)

I thought it was held in Flanders? No. I think I need some geography education.. :)

Sorry Rallymen123.

[Fly]

I thought it was held in Flanders? No. I think I need some geography education.. :)

Sorry Rallymen123.

You're partly right, it's held in the French Flanders.

[noel157]

Ping Tom206. Any further news, rumours on Var entry? Sordo?

[mousti]

Sordo won't be there. Kubica vs Loix, favorit is offcourse Kubi with the newer C4 WRC

[vino_93]

it seems that entries are closed ... on the link given by Tom206WRC you can see start number of cars.

[Tom206wrc]

Official entrylist is on Patricksoft too ;)

I don't understand why Tom Cave isn't on it, whereas he had the offer as winner of junior BRC(I read it on the BRC Webpage after last round of the championship) :confused:

[PLuto]

I don't understand why Tom Cave isn't on it, whereas he had the offer as winner of junior BRC(I read it on the BRC Webpage after last round of the championship) :confused:

Maybe he wasnt able to find entry form? :D

[Tom206wrc]

Brilliant win by Stéphane Consani in his DS3 at the Rallye du Mistral yesterday evening/night...he will be more than ever a threat in the Citroën Racing Trophy in Var next week :cool:

[irish_tiger]

Brilliant win by Stéphane Consani in his DS3 at the Rallye du Mistral yesterday evening/night...he will be more than ever a threat in the Citroën Racing Trophy in Var next week :cool:

Classement Rallye du Mistral 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/classement-rallye-du-mistral-2012/)

[rallye-sport]

Shakedown http://www.rallye-sp...ye-du-var-2012/ (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-var-2012/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_9026.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_8944.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_9210.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_9095.jpg

[Mirek]

Tommeke just sent me sms that Kubica looked insane and definitely faster than Loix on shakedown.

[mousti]

Kubica will always drive balls to the wall, that seems a sure thing! :D

[Bartek]

Where i can find page with live results from Var?

[stefanvv]

Where i can find page with live results from Var?

may be here? Classement direct Rallye du Var 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/classement-direct-rallye-du-var-2012/)

[wwbroe]

may be here? Classement direct Rallye du Var 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/classement-direct-rallye-du-var-2012/)

And probably also on site patricksoft.com and also on site of FFSA :)

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe9_2CKiS2g

[Kielder]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr3FNfNo_QA

[Tom206wrc]

Where i can find page with live results from Var?


PatricK Soft (http://www.patricksoft.fr) is me thinks the best link ;)

[spiderem]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe9_2CKiS2g
Spectator very well placed as usual in France...

[vino_93]

in South* of France ;)
Always stupid there ... fortunately it's not the same thing everywhere in France.

[darkstar]

results also here: FFSA | 58me Rallye du Var - 2012 (http://www.ffsa.org/res_rallye.php?id=1977&catCourse=ral)

that will be exiting and will show kubica´s real speed. if he can keep up with loix his speed is quite ok i would say. if he´s a bit faster then his speed is about like loix´s speed. and if he give´s him minutes on the stages he´s extremely fast :D

[Bartek]

+10 for Fast Freddy, looks like Robert will show what he can :)

more than one sec on one km

[MartijnS]

That's fast :)

[Jarek Z]

that will be exiting and will show kubica´s real speed. if he can keep up with loix his speed is quite ok i would say. if he´s a bit faster then his speed is about like loix´s speed. and if he give´s him minutes on the stages he´s extremely fast :D

And if Kubica is 10 seconds faster than Loix on 7-km-long SS1? :)

[Tom206wrc]

Craig Breen 3rd overall SS1, first S2000 :)

[darkstar]

And if Kubica is 10 seconds faster than Loix on 7-km-long SS1? http://www.motorsportforums.com/images/smilies/smile.gif


:D

i think that fits in the case "a bit faster = same speed like loix" with a tendence to "give´s him minutes = extremely fast" ;)

[AP-Racing]

Awesome result for Craig

[Tom206wrc]

...and the 207 R3T slower than the 208 R2 :eek:

[dimviii]

same time for fastest r2 cars(Bouffier-Guigou) with 208-twingo

[AP-Racing]

...and the 207 R3T slower than the 208 R2 :eek:

But and Bouffier faster than Ancian

[dimviii]

same time for fastest r2 cars(Bouffier-Guigou) with 208-twingo

Vigion now almost 5 sec faster

[Mirek]

...and the 207 R3T slower than the 208 R2 :eek:

207 R3T is cup car, not really that fast one.

[Hartusvuori]

Kubica 13,7 s faster than Loix on SS2 (10,190 kms). This will be interesting.

[darkstar]

another massive time for kubica. again more then a second/km faster then loix!

[Fiat-131-Abarth]

Kubica is 13.7 secs faster than Loix on the 2nd stage.

[Mirek]

Bouffier and Guigou second time in a row same time!

[dimviii]

Chardonnet fastest r3t at stage1

[eestlane]

This is embarrassing how Kubica is humiliating Loix.

[dimviii]

This is embarrassing how Kubica is humiliating Loix.

dont forget difference of cars.

At ss3 Guigou took 6sec from Bouffier

[eestlane]

Yes, but one is an injured F1 driver and the other has 89 WRC starts under his belt

[dimviii]

Yes, but one is an injured F1 driver and the other has 89 WRC starts under his belt

right ....starts not wins..

[Mirek]

It seems to be sure that we will see Robert competing in one of the two international rally series next year and with a car able to win so all remaining questions will be answered. For sure he won't be there just for making the crowd :)

[dimviii]

Elena as 0 at rally du Var
http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/691097640.jpg?key=960720&Expires=1353686088&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=lcL4YzsKIxOgYh1PcqdPKBJFeH4e8IoV6dWWVqk1 Mn0NKk46sgEbrWv9pTx-rqyE5Z0XI9mFYSXGj~hkqXdtI1WXIIVbI1r5guW1MB7uIAzN33 Fb3yKqIBIAr59G46~6lpodmknuj3NiasA0W3xWJ09IYjKGuhhZ qUO1xiJ7m3I_

[liposh]

I am quite surprised by Kubica and his right arm. (and not only today) He nearly can´t move with his right arm (that is fact) , so he is driving from 90% only one-handed. It is quite "tiresome" but I don´t see him being tired, exhausted during later stages. He is still excellent. Constantly.

[dimviii]

Loix after stage3...

2. Freddy Loix - Lara Vanneste (Peugeot 307 WRC): "You can not do better with what we have. "

[Tom206wrc]

Puncture for Breen on SS4 !!! GUTTED :mad: :mad:

[Tom206wrc]

Guigou off road SS4(in a ditch, spectators had problems to get him out and lost 9') :mark: Bouffier largely leading R2 now...
Superb Consani leading CRT and being 10th overall just in front of Chardonnet(who lead from SS1 to 3)and Gilbert :D

PS: Demaerschalk had a good PS4 and is now 4th of CRT :cool: but Cronin hadn't a good SS4 and lost places ;(

[Sulland]

I am quite surprised by Kubica and his right arm. (and not only today) He nearly can´t move with his right arm (that is fact) , so he is driving from 90% only one-handed. It is quite "tiresome" but I don´t see him being tired, exhausted during later stages. He is still excellent. Constantly.

What is the asessment for the recovery? Will the arm get better with time and training, or will it stay as it is now?

[rallye-sport]

First day -> Photos Rallye du Var 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-var-2012/)


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_9515.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_9456.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_9568.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_9460.jpg

[Raven]

right ....starts not wins..
If you judge the driver by his wins in WRC than almost every driver is slow. Yes, that's true that he had more chances to win wrc round than other drivers but he still is the fastest rival so far and is much, much more experienced.
I'm impressed, even considering worse car of Loix (but he has better knowledge of it).
That's a pity Couq and Sarazzin are not there.

[Hartusvuori]

If you judge the driver by his wins in WRC than almost every driver is slow. Yes, that's true that he had more chances to win wrc round than other drivers but he still is the fastest rival so far and is much, much more experienced.
I'm impressed, even considering worse car of Loix (but he has better knowledge of it).
That's a pity Couq and Sarazzin are not there.

I too was trying to find a list of Kubica's rally starts to see his earlier opponents as my memory could fail, but really, isn't Loix in an old 307 still Kubica's best speed measure yet? Loix' car might be rusty (I don't know), but for sure Fast Freddy himself is still a good measure in European rallying. We all remember how surpised we were of Kubica's speed prior to his serious, unfortunate accident. His talents obviously hasn't gone anywhere. I so wish he'd do ERC or selected rounds of WRC next year. I don't know how good he was in F1, but he surely is a natural born rally driver.

[Raven]

I too was trying to find a list of Kubica's rally starts to see his earlier opponents as my memory could fail, but really, isn't Loix in an old 307 still Kubica's best speed measure yet? Loix' car might be rusty (I don't know), but for sure Fast Freddy himself is still a good measure in European rallying. We all remember how surpised we were of Kubica's speed prior to his serious, unfortunate accident. His talents obviously hasn't gone anywhere. I so wish he'd do ERC or selected rounds of WRC next year. I don't know how good he was in F1, but he surely is a natural born rally driver.
Kubica was one of the biggest talents in F1, but unfortunatley he had no sponsor walking with a bag full of cash. So he was forced to prove everything by himself. He is a natural born talent, I have no doubt about that.
I hope he will do ERC next season (and will test on gravel a lot). S2000 car can aslo be modifed like Kubica's wrc - look at Llovera's Punto.

[denkimi]

i believe that, most of all, this shows how much faster a nearly 'factory' c4 is than a private 307.

[GINE]

i believe that, most of all, this shows how much faster a nearly 'factory' c4 is than a private 307.

Last year, Latvala was not so much faster with a factory fiesta than the private 307 of sarrazin....

[bluuford]

By using my super new equation I can say that Kubica is just a fraction slower than Ostberg on tarmac in France. However variables in the equation are secret;-)

[GINE]

It seems that Kubica is fast and with many tests and rallies, can compete and fight for the win in WRC Tarmac rounds! I bet he will be an official Citroen junior team driver and team mate of Loeb in the wtcc project. His abilities will help to built a winning car and get a lot of attention from fans and media. A dream team.... loeb-kubica

[GINE]

Should I guess? Difference from the r2 r3 and s2000 drivers that compete in both rallies...

[bluuford]

Should I guess? Difference from the r2 r3 and s2000 drivers that compete in both rallies...
Yep.. something like that.. I also had to take into account the fact that some cars in WRC may use non-control tires and some of them have to use those. At the end of day.. to be with similar speed copared to Mads in a second rally with his new car.. impressive indeed.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Puncture for Breen on SS4 !!! GUTTED :mad: :mad:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/15948_10151337347142853_871821963_n.jpg

[GINE]

Yep.. something like that.. I also had to take into account the fact that some cars in WRC may use non-control tires and some of them have to use those. At the end of day.. to be with similar speed copared to Mads in a second rally with his new car.. impressive indeed.
But is DS3 Or C4 faster in Tarmac? I believe that current cars are faster, especially on a very twisty rally than this

[bluuford]

But is DS3 Or C4 faster in Tarmac? I believe that current cars are faster, especially on a very twisty rally than this

I would say that the latest C4 is just a fractionally faster than DS3 on tarmac right now (by comparing the same stages from different years)

[dimviii]

If you judge the driver by his wins in WRC than almost every driver is slow. Yes, that's true that he had more chances to win wrc round than other drivers but he still is the fastest rival so far and is much, much more experienced.
I'm impressed, even considering worse car of Loix (but he has better knowledge of it).
That's a pity Couq and Sarazzin are not there.

i am also impressed from Kubicas speed,dont get me wrong,just we have to think also about the difference of cars.Another point we dont know is if Loix 307 is well setuped.From his diference from s2000 cars i wouldn t say so..

[dimviii]

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/9708/p1150389.jpghttp://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9227/p1150427.jpghttp://img266.imageshack.us/img266/1441/p1150416l.jpg

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Db6xQWgm78Y

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Zug4LddtwWU

[dimviii]

any mate to translate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NZrYAyUyVjk#!

[urabus-denoS2000]

i am also impressed from Kubicas speed,dont get me wrong,just we have to think also about the difference of cars.Another point we dont know is if Loix 307 is well setuped.From his diference from s2000 cars i wouldn t say so..

I think he can setup the car, since he was a factory Peugeot driver when the car was developed and released ;)

[dimviii]

I think he can setup the car, since he was a factory Peugeot driver when the car was developed and released ;)

setup, except drivers skills, needs and mechanics skills too ;)

[denkimi]

Last year, Latvala was not so much faster with a factory fiesta than the private 307 of sarrazin....
but the (new) fiesta is al lot slower than the (old) c4.

i believe the new wrc cars ar now at about the same level as the old cars where 5 years ago.

[Tom206wrc]

Look at Craig Breen in SS5 this morning !!!! :eek:
He climbed 6th overall, not far from 4th and could be back on Cédric in the battle for 3rd if he keeps this pace :)

[Tom206wrc]

Also Chérain did a great 9th time :D
Bouffier in front of Princen :eek:
Puncture for Demaerschalk :( and good time from Cronin this time :up:
Too many punctures on that SS5 and on the 30km SS6 could be worse...

[dimviii]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvc0h3_rallye-du-var-2012-es-02-bormes-les-mimosas_auto?start=20

[Hartusvuori]

Is SS6 delayed?

EDIT: Ok, now times are coming in. Kubica on the top again.

[Tom206wrc]

SS6 stopped !!! Cédric Chérain heavily crashed the Megane N4 after 5km :mark:

[darkstar]

hope he´s ok! another try to measure kubica´s speed: maurin lost around 2sec/km to loeb at rallye de france, at du var he´s loosing about 3 sec/km to kubica. breen lost around 2,6sec/km to loeb in spain, now he´s loosing around 1,8sec/km to kubica at du var. doesn´t say too much because it´s hard to compare but gives another hint what his speed is like.

[Tom206wrc]

Everything OK for Chérain and his codriver, the car has been evacuated and stage can go on ;)
Bouffier a great time again :D

[efe-e]

Everything OK for Chérain and his codriver, the car has been evacuated and stage can go on ;)
Bouffier a great time again :D

Did Breen has a puncture on SS7?

[Mirek]

Last year, Latvala was not so much faster with a factory fiesta than the private 307 of sarrazin....

Latvala was on WRC controlled tyres which are slower than usual Michelins used by Sarrazin. Also new WRC cars are in my opinion still slower than old ones at least on asphalt.

[Mirek]

setup, except drivers skills, needs and mechanics skills too ;)

Loix has been working for Reiger for ages and he is good in setting cars with them. However whale doesn't have Reigers and as we know it always has been a car which only few drivers managed to get used to.

[WRC1]

BTW:
where is fast freddy after stage 7???

[Mirek]

Crashed

[mousti]

Loix has been working for Reiger for ages and he is good in setting cars with them. However whale doesn't have Reigers and as we know it always has been a car which only few drivers managed to get used to.
Loix was after the TTE shutdown one of the best development drivers on the market who could also handle the WRC competition. Also the 307 was never a good story for Freddy, remember those times especially with Provera.. Also this year with the 307 he got not so much luck with it. But anyways hats off for Kubica, like I said balls to the wall with him, he is a competition beast knew that after the accident when he only look in front of him and not behind him. Some human's have that spirit..

What happened with Demaerschalck puncture's?

[dimviii]

not big damage
http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/86594037884710151245417356544542052561n.jpg

[Mirek]

Whose car is that?

[Francis44]

Whose car is that?

Loix's 307.

[Mirek]

Thanks

[rallye-vid]

any mate to translate?


Long story short:

RK: It is my longest rally. longer was monte carlo but i did only the recce there.
i know the rally a bit, but most of the SS this year are in the opposite way.. so i know maybe about 25km from the last time i've been here.

i will not try to catch freddy as he lives here and will be fast. i'll try to drive my own rally.

new for me are bad road conditions (-> holes in the road, mud) and a lot of cuts where you can get a puncture.

Reporter: how do you feel in long stages?

RK: well, i'm doing well. i did last time a SS which had about 30km and the feeling was great. i personally like such long stages.
i still have some problems with my brake style - like finding the right brake points. it's difficult to what i know from my racing starts.

Reporter: Any news about your future?

RK: No, not really. I still don't know what i will do next year. i can only say that the time is running very fast. the last 3 months were running very fast for me.
not like the last nearly 2 years after my accident where my life was very different. so i'm just happy now to do what i like to do.

Just look under your x-mas tree. Maybe you'll find there the news about me and what i'll do next year ;)

[rallye-sport]

Second day -> Photos Rallye du Var 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-var-2012/)


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_7960.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_8251.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_7930.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_7877.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_7948.jpg

[rallye-sport]

More photos -> Photos Rallye du Var 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-du-var-2012/)
http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_0108.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_0218.jpg


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_9697.jpg


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_9894.jpg

[mousti]

Matton was also present for Kubica..

Robert Kubica - Profesjonalista - Wypowied (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vdbo3-Yu1Fk&feature=share)

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9qf_Zcl9o60#!

[Mirek]

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/var-2012/img_0108.jpg


Have gravel sections been used in Rallye du Var in the past?

[Bartek]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9qf_Zcl9o60#!

i'm right that Robert can't use handbrake or there is 2 road?

[Juha_Koo]

i'm right that Robert can't use handbrake or there is 2 road?

Interesting junction/hairpin. Hard to say without seeing the roadbook drawing, could be just that they have played it safe during the recce by choosing the outer line... Remember Argentina page 55?

[Mirek]

i'm right that Robert can't use handbrake or there is 2 road?

In videos from other events he is using handbrake.

[mousti]

Looks to me there are 2 roads, with a small field between it with some trees in it, in East Belgian Rally we have that too, but one of the roads is not written in road book and has ribbons to "block" the road. Kubica is also choosing the outer road without using handbrake then.

[dimviii]

Kubica out of road.Car on fire. :(

[Tom206wrc]

Kubica CRASHED on SS11 Collobrières, and his car is burning(firemen on stage) :eek: :eek: :s
Crew OK...

[mousti]

Yes indeed, just got a text from Tommeke, what an anti climax for this rally! :s

[br21]

Polish rumors say (not that I believe in those) that it was codrivers error and as a result they went off, hit a tree and car started to burn

[Bartek]

Polish rumors say (not that I believe in those) that it was codrivers error and as a result they went off, hit a tree and car started to burn

This rumor is from a man who is close to Robert, he is a journalist in Polish TV

[rallye-vid]

FSCK.. I just woke up and reading this :(

[Stefan Blank]

But... look... if You are leading a competiton by more than 5 minutes, there is no reason to make any mistake either by the driver or by the co-driver. This is kind of a dumb and stupit behavior. It only shows, that RK is driving far above his own abilities. If I was a renter of rallycars I wouln´t give him anything but a ticket to drive home.
By winning a rally in a way he has shown before the accident, it could have been a calling card for next years jobs... but now he will be unemployed.