[WRC] Monza Rally 2020

[mknight]

So all we get on a bloody circuit is a camera at the start line?

[EstWRC]

Ogier with a stall

E: hit a bayle actually

[Tauri_J]

More like an OFF

[er88]

Big hit from Seb. Very lucky

[er88]

Early yet, but from yesterday and this stage so far, the coverage is AWFUL and lazy

[er88]

Neuville!!!!!
Carnage

[EstWRC]

lol Tänaks door coming to open

[KKS]

Neuville seems have wrecked RL corner..

[EstWRC]

im surprised they can keep on Evans speed

i mean he has the most cleanest road

[KKS]

this type of road conditions seems never be cleaned enough

[Essaj]

Suninen flying

[KKS]

Suninen -4.1 split1 O_o

[er88]

That split wow

[EstWRC]

ok it seems its maybe getting bette than worse, lol

[dimviii]

Michelin Motorsport
@Michelin_Sport
·
3m
Michelin #Tyre info - SS2

Toyota:
Ogier/Evans/Rovanperä/Katsuta: 4 MICHELIN Pilot Sport FW3

Hyundai:
Tänak: 5FW3
Neuville/Sordo/Veiby: 4FW3

MSport:
Suninen/Lappi/Greensmith: 4FW3

[KKS]

Suninen Fiesta sound like 3 cylinders car (

[Tauri_J]

Suninen misfire

[EstWRC]

again Tänak with extra wheel, wtf

[er88]

Fucking Msport gremlins again.

[EstWRC]

man im loving this so far, so much unknowns

[er88]

Stage seems to be getting quicker

[MartijnS]

Neuville https://www.facebook.com/100044320185848/posts/238446617642676/?d=n

[dimviii]

Sordo flying!

[KKS]

Fucking Msport gremlins again.

service after each stage good idea for Msport cars

[dimviii]

Neuville https://www.facebook.com/100044320185848/posts/238446617642676/?d=n

he was lucky that was this wirefench.He would abandon instantly when hitting the concrete.

[mknight]

There definitely is some clearing element there. Standing water on tarmac and maybe "digging" trough the slippery flat top gravel.

[EstWRC]

i cant wait for the second pass already :D

[KKS]

i cant wait for the second pass already :D
Second run will be as well know territory, so pace will be like Katsuta ))

[KKS]

Spectators not allowed to Rally Monza, but squirrels - do :D So want see WRC rally - got to be a squirrel :D

[dimviii]

Fourmaux fast

[wwbroe]

Fourmaux fast

Even very fast

[EstWRC]

and Solberg very slow in split 1

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen 4th fastest in split 1 and he has caught Munster as i see on the map

[mknight]

Mikkelsen 4th fastest in split 1 and he has caught Munster as i see on the map

He actually overtook 2 cars, since Rossel had some crash. So we get circuit racing after all.

[wwbroe]

Really great time by Andreas, he was at tale of Munster after his crash and also overtook Rossel.

[dimviii]

and Solberg very slow in split 1

Oliver Solberg
@OliverSolberg01
Not a great start to the day - stalled in SS2 and couldn't get the car started again. Lost about 20s... but still a long way to go!
Flexed biceps
#WRC3

[Tauri_J]

Loving that they're still showing the stage.

[EstWRC]

Ogier https://twitter.com/rallyesport/status/1334773135401492489?s=21

[dimviii]

Ogier https://twitter.com/rallyesport/status/1334773135401492489?s=21

another lucky one after Neuville

[wwbroe]

It must be difficult to drive this stage with the Porsche GT3:D

[Jarek Z]

It must be difficult to drive this stage with the Porsche GT3:D

Yeah, I would like to see a video of it :)

[dimviii]

another angle from Neuvilles off.Watch how close to concrete was his wheels
https://twitter.com/planetemarcus/status/1334776877098131456

[AnttiL]

Loving that they're still showing the stage.

Now they don't have the normal issue of the transmitter aeroplane, most likely the transmitters are on the ground at the track premises.

What a dramatic stage! For sure this is one of the most tricky rally days in the whole season! Totally WRC worthy (although I wouldn't want to have more than one rally like this in a season)

[doubled1978]

I really enjoy that actually, obviously I wouldn’t want a whole championship like that, but the positives in having stages in a single location are pretty obvious having watched that.

[dimviii]

Neuville before his off, he had touched twice the haybales breaking side mirror

[dimviii]

M-Sport
@MSportLtd
·
1m
Information source
Try as they might, the team were unable to resolve @TeemuSuninenRac
’s issue in the allotted 15 minute service. He’ll now contest SS3 and we’ll try another solution in the next 15 minute service
Crossed fingers
��
#WRC #MSPORTERS

[wwbroe]

Stage seems delayed

[wwbroe]

Still some safety cars going trough the stage

[dimviii]

Yesterday i was confused that with that almost small speed touch Katsutas yaris couldnt move.Reason is a roken disc brake that blocked inside caliper= no move at all.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoUQSITXUAIt3K7?format=jpg&name=large

[T16]

bit of a joke really. Evans looks pissed off.

[TypeR]

what amateurs.. quite embarrassing..

[Lead]

what amateurs.. quite embarrassing..

Whats going on?

[AnttiL]

Putting chicanes back to place?

[dimviii]

bit of a joke really. Evans looks pissed off.

now with complete cold tyres...

[SubaruNorway]

Guess it wasn't that long since the 1st run finished also

[EstWRC]

what a ruts full of water

[Rallyper]

This is something like the first day in old RAC Rally GB. A lot of Mickey Mouse stages in parks. And same for all.

Waldegard didn´t like them at all. "You can´t win only loose on MM stages" Now they have to deal with winning on these... :)

[TypeR]

Ogier's windshield completely foggy..

[T16]

Absolute nightmare for Ogier.

[TypeR]

WRC+ forgot Neuville and Tänak..? :D

[dimviii]

Ogier's windshield completely foggy..

just after the watersplash=different temp outside of glass vs inside

[EstWRC]

what a split by Thierry 5 secs quicker

[T16]

Ogier "It's a wet Rally GB, with slick tyres"

ha.

[Jewy46]

Very difficult conditions, which is testing the skill of the best in the world. So to be fair this rally is far from the joke some people thought it would be.
So far it's been enjoyable. I for one am just happy to see the WRC back on our screens!

As an aside Suninen's car sounds brilliant, like an M3 or something :rotflmao:

[TypeR]

what..? Lappi with 4 snow tires.. it's plus degrees there..

[EstWRC]

Lappi with snow tyres

[TypeR]

Kalle's wipers don't work.. and big time loss

[T16]

The whole place looks superb... the huge grandstands and all the history. What a place.

[dimviii]

Kalle without wipers,probably less rain

[EstWRC]

and Lappi fastest with the snowtyres

[T16]

Looks like the snow tyres are a good shout.

[Jewy46]

Cmon Lappi!! Great to see

[Tauri_J]

Snow tyres have much more traction obviously

[KKS]

Damage FL rim on EP car

[EstWRC]

im actually surprised the others didnt went with this

[dimviii]

Looks like the snow tyres are a good shout.

will they have enough left for tomorrow at probably stages with snow?

[mknight]

Looks like the snow tyres are a good shout.

They looked quite worn though on alllive... and they only have 8 of those for whole weekend.
Likely will need them tomorrow morning at least.

[T16]

Stage blocked now?

edit: no

[EstWRC]

Michelin #Tyre info - SS3

Toyota:
Ogier/Evans/Rovanperä/Katsuta: 4 MICHELIN Pilot Sport FW3

Hyundai:
Tänak/Veiby: 5FW3
Neuville/Sordo: 4FW3

MSport
Suninen/Greensmith 4FW3
Lappi: 4 MICHELIN Pilot Alpin A4


is Ott for real? every stage so far with spare tyre

[Tauri_J]

I dont understand Ott

[Tauri_J]

Its so obvious that snow tyres with deep grooves is better on mud.

[HarriK]

Lappi had big impact to left front wheel. Almost broken rim.

[dimviii]

I dont understand Ott

orders just for manufacture title?

[EstWRC]

this was a pretty bad stage for the Toyotas

[Sulland]

im actually surprised the others didnt went with this

But they only have 8 of the snowtires, but not a long stage, so not that much wear it seemed.

But he might be needing them more tomorrow.....

[jonkka]

orders just for manufacture title?

Again, why? On stage, if you puncture you've already lost enough time to lose several positions so changing a tyre won't help that. On road section, in a closed circuit, they in theory can limp back to service without four turning wheels even if regulations require that. I'd need to check if it refers to all road sections or just public roads.

[mknight]

this was a pretty bad stage for the Toyotas

Generally in last 2-3 years Hyundai can be very fast... if the settings are right. And if they are not perfect they quickly fall back, while Toyota seems more universal.

Do we see that effect here with those services in between all the time? (plenty of opportunity to finetune and change settings)

[Francis44]

Again, why? On stage, if you puncture you've already lost enough time to lose several positions so changing a tyre won't help that. On road section, in a closed circuit, they in theory can limp back to service without four turning wheels even if regulations require that. I'd need to check if it refers to all road sections or just public roads.

Broken rim on stage, in the muddy zones, and there is no way your moving that car back to service.

With a spare you just might.

[SubaruNorway]

Looking at the webcams in the area for tomorrow i don't think there will be any snow, + degrees over night as well, maybe for SS9 if it snows a lot today?
https://www.windy.com/nb/-Nettkamera/Italy/Lombardy/Orezzo/webcam-Gazzaniga-ALBERGO-BELVEDERE/webcams/1333214015?45.806,8.174,8

https://www.yr.no/nb/v%C3%A6rvarsel/daglig-tabell/2-3177887/Italia/Lombardia/Provincia%20di%20Bergamo/Costa%20Valle%20Imagna

[Sulland]

Stage blocked now?

edit: no

They need to have 20 finns woth ropes with hooks, thay will have any car in any position cleared off in seconds! :-)

[dimviii]

stage 8/11

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_12_2020/post-157-0-47333900-1607077439.jpg

[T16]

They need to have 20 finns woth ropes with hooks, thay will have any car in any position cleared off in seconds! :-)

As opposed to a couple of Italians with fags hanging out their mouths.

[mknight]

Looking at the webcams in the area for tomorrow i don't think there will be any snow, + degrees over night as well, maybe for ss10 if it snows a lot today?
https://www.windy.com/nb/-Nettkamera/Italy/Lombardy/Orezzo/webcam-Gazzaniga-ALBERGO-BELVEDERE/webcams/1333214015?45.806,8.174,8

https://www.yr.no/nb/v%C3%A6rvarsel/daglig-tabell/2-3177887/Italia/Lombardia/Provincia%20di%20Bergamo/Costa%20Valle%20Imagna


That camera is too low:

use these two (both on the actuall route of the third SS)
https://www.windy.com/nb/-Nettkamera/Switzerland/Grisons/Valchava/Lombardy-Italy/webcams/1438178438?45.785,7.864,8
https://www.windy.com/nb/-Nettkamera/Italy/Lombardy/Sant'Omobono-Terme/Monte-Resegone-Sant'Omobono-Terme-Valsecca/webcams/1593127341?45.823,7.848,8

That said I also dont think there will be snow on road.

[jonkka]

Broken rim on stage, in the muddy zones, and there is no way your moving that car back to service.

With a spare you just might.

Wait a minute - are you implying that nobody except Tanak has a spare tyre? I thought that regs specify that at minimum you have to have one spare tyre but you can run with two - and that Tanak is now running with two.

[mknight]

Wait a minute - are you implying that nobody except Tanak has a spare tyre? I thought that regs specify that at minimum you have to have one spare tyre but you can run with two - and that Tanak is now running with two.

Nope, you can run with 4, and everyone in WRC except Tanak has been doing that for 3 SS now.

[mknight]

Kopecky also on snow tires

Michelin #Tyre info - SS3

WRC2 / WRC3

Østberg: 4 MICHELIN Pilot Sport MW1 + 1RS (Soft)
Fourmaux/Huttunen: 5MW1
Kopecký: 4 MICHELIN Pilot Alpin NA00 +1RS
Rossel: 4MW1+1RS

[dimviii]

stage 9

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_12_2020/post-157-0-96196700-1607077876.jpeg

[Mirek]

Huttunen on snow tyres too I think (judging just by the video).

[jonkka]

Nope, you can run with 4, and everyone in WRC except Tanak has been doing that for 3 SS now.

Unless supplementary regs amend this (need to check), FIA regulations state the following:

13.11 SPARE WHEELS
Cars may carry a maximum of two spare wheels. If stipulated in the Appendix J for the concerned group, cars must carry at least one spare wheel.

[dimviii]

Huttunen on snow tyres too I think (judging just by the video).

if it writes ''sotto zero'' yes.Solberg with them too

[mknight]

if it writes ''sotto zero'' yes.Solberg with them too

Not on Michelin...

[dimviii]

Not on Michelin...

i thought he was on pirellis,my bad

[SubaruNorway]

That camera is too low:

use these two (both on the actuall route of the third SS)
https://www.windy.com/nb/-Nettkamera/Switzerland/Grisons/Valchava/Lombardy-Italy/webcams/1438178438?45.785,7.864,8
https://www.windy.com/nb/-Nettkamera/Italy/Lombardy/Sant'Omobono-Terme/Monte-Resegone-Sant'Omobono-Terme-Valsecca/webcams/1593127341?45.823,7.848,8

That said I also dont think there will be snow on road.

Just noticed mine was set to 1 year, switch the setting next to the play button to 24h...

[mknight]

Mikkelsen 3rd overall

[TypeR]

Unless supplementary regs amend this (need to check), FIA regulations state the following:

13.11 SPARE WHEELS
Cars may carry a maximum of two spare wheels. If stipulated in the Appendix J for the concerned group, cars must carry at least one spare wheel.

and the Appendix J says:


802 SPARE WHEEL
Spare wheel(s) is (are) not compulsory.They must be securely fixed in the cockpit (the centreof the spare wheel must be behind the driver seat and the codriver seat) or in the lugguage compartment.

[Rally Hokkaido]

and the Appendix J says:
To clarify, this is just for WRC1 cars. Any idea when this regulation was changed?

[jonkka]

and the Appendix J says:

What? Well well, I stand truly and absolutely corrected here, at my sincerest astonishment. Thanks for pointing this out.

[mknight]

To clarify, this is just for WRC1 cars. Any idea when this regulation was changed?

Must have been some time ago, since Tanak had 4 wheels on Sunday in Turkey last year.

[doubled1978]

Interesting now to see if any of the WRC1 guys go out with the snow tyres today, or even if Lappi leaves them on.

[mknight]

Interesting now to see if any of the WRC1 guys go out with the snow tyres today, or even if Lappi leaves them on.

I repeat that on the allive pictures they looked quite worn at the end of just one stage.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Interesting now to see if any of the WRC1 guys go out with the snow tyres today, or even if Lappi leaves them on.

In the brief shot of his rears, they looked to be overheating (as you'd expect). The next pair of stages are longer, though % of mud versus high speed tarmac would be a significant factor.

[Lead]

R5 cars not that far back from WRC in these slippery, slow conditions.

[dimviii]

ss 7 Selvino
https://www.facebook.com/EpicRallyTribe2.0/videos/291760605586638

[dimviii]

Lappi

https://twitter.com/DirtFishRally/status/1334810023952834562

[Rallyper]

ss 7 Selvino
https://www.facebook.com/EpicRallyTribe2.0/videos/291760605586638

However a few days ago.. Right?

[TheFlyingTuga]

However a few days ago.. Right?

No, they did a live this morning.

[Rallyper]

What happened to PajarI in RC4?

Tom K now leading by almost one minute.

[mknight]

However a few days ago.. Right?

No this should be today, but temperature is forecasted to go up to to +1 or 2 degrees and lots of rain. That combination over 12 hour or so should melt most of snow on the road.

[Rallyper]

No, they did a live this morning.

aaaahhh! Private recce, then. My bad. Misunderstood.

[doubled1978]

In the brief shot of his rears, they looked to be overheating (as you'd expect). The next pair of stages are longer, though % of mud versus high speed tarmac would be a significant factor.

Yeah exactly, but it’s more about if the guys will give up the performance today in case they need them tomorrow...

[SubaruNorway]

What happened to PajarI in RC4?

Tom K now leading by almost one minute.
https://twitter.com/FIAJuniorWRC/status/1334807987664334848

[wwbroe]

What happened to PajarI in RC4?

Tom K now leading by almost one minute.

Pajari went off the road

[Tom K]

What happened to PajarI in RC4?

Tom K now leading by almost one minute.


Yep, but one minute I can easily lose in these conditions :D

Sesks probably was stopped by Pajari and got time back.

[Rallyper]

Yep, but one minute I can easily lose in these conditions :D

Sesks probably was stopped by Pajari and got time back.

Absolutely.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Been watching while working - that was one tricky mornings rallying. Stages are a proper test in these conditions, like a mini-Rally GB !

And very mixed for M-Sport with Lappi and Fourmaux (class) leading but disaster for Greensmith and possibly Suninen.

[PLuto]

What happened to PajarI in RC4?

Tom K now leading by almost one minute.

https://www.wrc.com/?proxy=redaktion/Season-2020-NEWS/WRC/12_December/Monza-Live-Text/Pajariaftermath.jpeg

[AnttiL]

Stages are a proper test in these conditions, like a mini-Rally GB !.

A bit like the old RAC park stages but nothing like the forest stages, apart from the conditions...

[sindroms]

What happened to PajarI in RC4?

Tom K now leading by almost one minute.

Mistake made by judges. Now it's fixed - 1 minute is taken away from Sesks, so stage win for him and only 1.6 sec gap between him and Kristensson.

[dimviii]

very risky to do another stage with misfiring problem


M-Sport
@MSportLtd


The issue with @TeemuSuninenRac
’s EcoBoost-powered Ford Fiesta WRC persists, but so do our engineers and mechanics!
We’ve not given up, and we’ve got another solution to try in the next 15 minute service #WRC #MSPORTERS

[AnttiL]

In the brief shot of his rears, they looked to be overheating (as you'd expect). The next pair of stages are longer, though % of mud versus high speed tarmac would be a significant factor.

Next one is quite similar stage, partly the same sections in the reverse direction

[Fast Eddie WRC]

A bit like the old RAC park stages but nothing like the forest stages, apart from the conditions...

Ogier: "It was like WalesRallyGB with slick tyres ! Slippery !"

[dimviii]

stage delayed

[EstWRC]

Rallye Sport
@RallyeSport
L’horaire de l’ES4 vient de changer deux fois..

Initialement 12h38, puis 12h42 et maintenant 12h51 #WRC
Translated from French by
The schedule for SS4 has just changed twice.

Initially 12:38, then 12:42 and now 12:51 #WRC

[PLuto]

stage delayed

INFORMATION ABOUT SS 4
Stage will be delayed for 13 minut.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans on snow tyres now.

[denkimi]

I don't get why they still have 2 to 3 hour gaps between the stages when they are never more then a few miles away from service.

[mknight]

They said Mikkelsen had snowtires already on SS2. Explains the split times where he leads massively on first one vs other Rally2 and then starts loosing a bit towards the end.

[Rallyper]

Been watching while working - that was one tricky mornings rallying. Stages are a proper test in these conditions, like a mini-Rally GB !

And very mixed for M-Sport with Lappi and Fourmaux (class) leading but disaster for Greensmith and possibly Suninen.


A bit like the old RAC park stages but nothing like the forest stages, apart from the conditions...


This is something like the first day in old RAC Rally GB. A lot of Mickey Mouse stages in parks. And same for all.

Waldegard didn´t like them at all. "You can´t win only loose on MM stages" Now they have to deal with winning on these... :)

As said a while ago...

[EstWRC]

this is embarassing i have to say

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Safety first.

[SubaruNorway]

I don't get why they still have 2 to 3 hour gaps between the stages when they are never more then a few miles away from service.

Because you have 90 other cars that have to get through parts of the same stage...?
And they need to change some parts of the stage

[T16]

Total BS that they make Evans wait with so much uncertainty over start times.

Probably adding more to my stress than his!

[EstWRC]

The tire choices for this special: everyone with 4 snow except Tänak and Suninen with 4 snow and 1 maxi-rain.#WRC#RallyMonza

[Mirek]

Ogier lost control on brakes and overshot a junction.

Neuville hit a chicane barrier pretty hard.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville mistake !

[EstWRC]

suspension gone it seems

[T16]

Neuville saying the championship isn't worth winning... With complete amateur driving like that, you don't deserve it son.

[Jewy46]

This rally looks so so tricky from the onboards you can see its ridiculously slippy on all the different surfaces. Stressful to drive I can tell you from experience

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville slowing to stop.

[EstWRC]

ah yes great he is blocking the road now for others?

[mknight]

Again and again Neuville makes mistakes when under pressure...Turkey last year, Australia the year before, Germany and Spain the year before that again.

[Rallyper]

Neuville out!!!!

[Tauri_J]

Bye Bye Thierry

[Rallyper]

Easy done. But clumsy.

[EstWRC]

will Tänak get by?

[T16]

will Tänak get by?

just

[EstWRC]

and lost couple of seconds there, damn

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Manu battle advantage Toyota ?

[EstWRC]

Ott said he lost some time there.

Evans got now past him with this stage

[T16]

Telescopic on the stage? Really?????

[EstWRC]

stage stopped then? wtf

[Essaj]

What the fk are they doing

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rescue up the stage road.

[EstWRC]

how will they continue with the stage now?

the others can save their tyres now

[Tauri_J]

Wtf now they Are benefitting from this

Idiotic decision

[mknight]

Tricky what time to give to Rovanpera and Suninen.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nominal times.

[dimviii]

What the fk are they doing

just thought the same.
Unbelievable that they hadnt tractors to all narrow points to remove immediadetely a car blocking the road.

[mknight]

Tbh with even Lappi red flagged, they should red-flag all rest of WRC cars.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoZHpEVW8AEk8DW?format=jpg&name=medium

[TypeR]

Everybody else now saving tires.. and getting better times.. fo.. how they can't pull the car away faster..

[KKS]

This rally was already joke from itinerary... so now with that red flag - nothing new

[EstWRC]

i just have no words about this

[dimviii]

Everybody else now saving tires.. and getting better times.. fo.. how they can't pull the car away faster..

also strange that they didnt move the car backwords,plenty of space and much faster.

[mknight]

also strange that they didnt move the car backwords,plenty of space and much faster.

It would be in braking zone for the corner then.

[MartijnS]

Are they starting again when the guys who were on the stage that were red flagged, are finished?

[Eli]

And they want to use this rally as a reserve for next year...I really hope it won't come to that and I hope this doesn't start a thing with these types of stages being considered rallying...

[mknight]

And they want to use this rally as a reserve for next year...I really hope it won't come to that and I hope this doesn't start a thing with these types of stages being considered rallying...

Cmon, normally rally stage never gets red flagged due to a car crashed on the road?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sounds like its over for Suninen with his engine problem. :(

[Tauri_J]

WRC needs a new system to red flag a certain section from a stage.

This is so unfair what is happening now.

[EstWRC]

Cmon, normally rally stage never gets red flagged due to a car crashed on the road?


its not about the red flag

the rally isnt wrc worthy IMO no matter how exciting it is at the moment.

[dimviii]

It would be in braking zone for the corner then.

left side and back there was plenty of room and safe, from a potentialy car that he could lost the brakes for the narrow entry.

[T16]

And they want to use this rally as a reserve for next year...I really hope it won't come to that and I hope this doesn't start a thing with these types of stages being considered rallying...

TBH, I think it's been incredible to watch. I can't remember seeing the drivers looking as challenged for a while, but that's probably due to conditions. If it was dry, I don't think it would anywhere near as good to watch.
Like I said though, much much better than I anticipated.

[SubaruNorway]

also strange that they didnt move the car backwords,plenty of space and much faster.

Down the road you mean, you're not gonna push it up a 20 degree banking.

[TypeR]

Cmon, normally rally stage never gets red flagged due to a car crashed on the road?

Different things.. it isn't in the middle of nowhere or anyone hurt.. it's one car on a race track.. put it on a trailer and drive away, problem solved.

[Mirek]

also strange that they didnt move the car backwords,plenty of space and much faster.

I think the road there is heavily sloped (the high-speed section of circuit) so they would need to push it uphill as well. Likely very difficult.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Is coverage continuing on WRC+ - I have no feed now on BT Sport Extra ?

[dimviii]

Down the road you mean, you're not gonna push it up a 20 degree banking.

back and left there is no 20 degree banking,its straight.

[mknight]

Is coverage continuing on WRC+ - I have no feed now on BT Sport Extra ?

"Alldead"

[Sulland]

Did they cancel ss4 altogether, or just a break?

[TypeR]

WRC+ also red flagged..

[T16]

Did they cancel ss4 altogether, or just a break?

I wouldn't even bet on the organisers knowing.

[mknight]

At this point, combined with the earlier delay I say just cancel it for everyone. If you give WRC (also to WRCs like Veiby) notional times it will completely mess up the top 10.

[dimviii]

M-Sport
@MSportLtd
·
2m
Information source
SS4 Stopped for the Ford Fiesta WRCs, so now it’s back to service for another 15 minute session with the mechanics
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#WRC #MSPORTERS

[dimviii]

hmsgofficial
@HMSGOfficial
· 6m
#WRC
Warning sign
@thierryneuville was forced to retired for the day on SS4 at @AciRallyMonza due to front right suspension damage after hitting a concrete block in one of the chicanes. The car will be fixed and he will restart tomorrow. #HMSGOfficial #RallyMonza

[Sulland]

They are back in depot, let them start again, those few that was hindered.

It almost like rallycross, so not that hard logistically, since amall distances. Weather still the same.

[mknight]

They are back, let them start again, those few that was hindered.

It almost like rallycross, not that hard logistically, since amall distances. Weather still the same.

They are already almost 1 hour delayed and 2 more stages to go.

2 Rally2 cars in Top 10 among WRCs, how do assign times then?

[Damian Baldi]

what a crazy rally, everything seems out of place, but I really like to see the cars passing through the internal roads of Monza and over the banking. The biggest problem is the car's setups and tires, the circuit is like one of those street shows.

The red flag was a shame, but the car was stoping the other cars and that was unfair.

Could Hyundai repair the car and be back for next SS?

[dimviii]

Opens&Tightens
@OpensTightens
#WRC #ACIRallyMonza SS7 Update

Current conditions of tomorrow's 1st stage

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoZNnQqXYAQtT8z?format=jpg&name=small

[doubled1978]

At this point, combined with the earlier delay I say just cancel it for everyone. If you give WRC (also to WRCs like Veiby) notional times it will completely mess up the top 10.

If they completely cancel it and annul the times, does that mean Neuville could re-start if they can fix the car?
Surely they will just give notional times to everyone?

[EstWRC]

Thierrys mistake https://twitter.com/RubnPerez/status/1334838770210922496?s=20

Hyundai just tweeted he is done for today and continues tomorrow

[Tauri_J]

Dd they really cancelled this stage??

Such a terrible accident lol

[mknight]

If they completely cancel it and annul the times, does that mean Neuville could re-start if they can fix the car?
Surely they will just give notional times to everyone?

Still just 15 min service, don't think they can fix it in 15 mins. He also misses some TC after stage I guess? So no.

[dimviii]

back and left there is no 20 degree banking,its straight.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoZHpEVW8AEk8DW?format=jpg&name=large

[PLuto]

If they completely cancel it and annul the times, does that mean Neuville could re-start if they can fix the car?
Surely they will just give notional times to everyone?

No. Neuville retired for today, no chance for return.

[Eli]

Cmon, normally rally stage never gets red flagged due to a car crashed on the road?

yes but the way the organizers are handling it isn't great...it's not a remote stage on the alps, it's near or should I say on the track...and as for the rally itself it's just boring in a way, sure we had some drama but it feels very superficial...

[mknight]

Katsuta just posted first split which seems to be at speed....

[PLuto]

Stage continues.

[Eli]

Opens&Tightens
@OpensTightens
#WRC #ACIRallyMonza SS7 Update

Current conditions of tomorrow's 1st stage

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoZNnQqXYAQtT8z?format=jpg&name=small

If it stays that way for tomorrow it will save them some winter pre-testing for Monte.

[Oliverk]

There are 10 guys there. Put a rope on car and pull it 10 m left. God damn amateur hour.

[Francis44]

There are 10 guys there. Put a rope on car and pull it 10 m left. God damn amateur hour.

Sorry, they must be used to Formula races where of you actually stall the car your race is over 😂 .

[mknight]

Stage running then.... but not on "allive"

[PLuto]

Stage running then.... but not on "allive"

WRC cars are gone and they are not interested in other crews...

[mknight]

Michelin #Tyre info - SS4

WRC2 / WRC3
Østberg/Rossel: 5 MICHELIN Pilot Alpin NAOO
Fourmaux/Huttunen: 5 MICHELIN Pilot Sport MW1
Kopecký: 4NA00 + 1 MICHELIN Pilot Sport RS (Soft)

Fourmaux and Huttunen on wet while others have snow, no info on Pirelli drivers.

[Mirek]

Mikkelsen keeps his pace.

[dimviii]

Mads Østberg
@MadsOstberg
·
8m
SS4
⌚
12:33.2
Speech balloon
We had some issues on this one, car was not going straight. Something must have gone wrong during service. We must check! #WRC2 #C3R5

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_12_2020/post-157-0-53266500-1607090698.jpg

[EstWRC]

M-Sport
@MSportLtd
·
20s
Information source Despite the team’s best efforts and never-give-up mentality,
@TeemuSuninenRac
’s issues have unfortunately proved insurmountable - internal engine damage forcing his retirement from the rally #WRC #MSPORTERS #FordPerformance

[dimviii]

M-Sport
@MSportLtd
·
20s
Information source Despite the team’s best efforts and never-give-up mentality,
@TeemuSuninenRac
’s issues have unfortunately proved insurmountable - internal engine damage forcing his retirement from the rally #WRC #MSPORTERS #FordPerformance

as expected

[dimviii]

Sordo Lappi Rovanpera took Tanaks time.

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_12_2020/post-1796-0-70650400-1607092084.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sad end to the season for Teemu.

[TypeR]

so.. Lappi, Sordo and Rovanperä got same time as Tänak..
Lappi and Sordo okay, but Rovanperä got a little gift with that notional time.. + Tänak lost couple of secs on the stage to Neuvilles car, so some unluck for him again

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Still on the snow tyres.

[dimviii]

Sesks crash
https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC/status/1334862429222825985

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Feel sorry for those in 2WD cars in these conditions.

[T16]

Last part of the stage - goes past a burger van queue?

[mknight]

All WRCs on winter tires now. Toyota also with 5 now.

Toyota:
Ogier/Evans/Rovanperä: 4 MICHELIN Pilot Alpin A4 + 1 MICHELIN Pilot Sport FW3
Katsuta: 4A4

Hyundai:
Tänak: 5A4
Sordo/Veiby: 4A4

MSport:
Lappi: 4A4

[Mirek]

Tänak it the same gate as Sesks I think.

[mknight]

Starting to wonder if someone takes wet tires for the last stage, cause that one is much less gravel and more high speed tarmac.

[EstWRC]

that was costly mistake Ott for tomorrow starting pos-

[Tauri_J]

Why Molly thinks they need snow tyres Tomorrow?

[mknight]

Why Molly thinks they need snow tyres Tomorrow?

There is snow on the stages atm and about +1 and rain/snow forecasted.

[Tauri_J]

that was costly mistake Ott for tomorrow starting pos-

Why? Reversed order Tomorrow

[Tauri_J]

There is snow on the stages atm and about +1 and rain/snow forecasted.

Roads Will be clear of snow no doubt.

[Co-driven]

I don't know if this was mentioned earlier, but today Bulletin 7 was published, increasing to 14 the amount of wet tyres WRC1 drivers can use.

[mknight]

Roads Will be clear of snow no doubt.

With forecast just above 0 some of the precipitation can come down as snow.

[EstWRC]

Why? Reversed order Tomorrow

well the drivers were talking about startin as further back on saturday as possible.

he would have gotten Evans with this stage without that gate mistake.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lappi slow and wil probably lose the lead to Sordo.

Nope just held it.

[er88]

Ogier is going to be mega to watch tomorrow....

[dimviii]

all 3 toyotas faster at this stage

[EstWRC]

all 3 toyotas faster at this stage

i believe Ott would have split them without that reverse

was just 0.7 down in second split from Ogier


but i cant for tomorrow either, proper stages

[SubaruNorway]

Roads Will be clear of snow no doubt.

Depends a bit on how well they clear them also.
In the middle of SS9 200m from the road
https://on.windy.com/4eurf

[dimviii]

Sordo at last 2,2 km lost 4,5 sec

[dimviii]

Even Katsuta with good time

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lappi & Sordo lost any advantage of the notional times on SS4 with driving that stage slowly. Others had a proper 'fast recce' for the next run.

[Mirek]

Ostberg lost 11,6 s from Tidemand now.

[EstWRC]

hats off to Veiby so far

to make your debut in WRC car in such a conditions

[Tauri_J]

With forecast just above 0 some of the precipitation can come down as snow.

I'm seeing +5 with heavy rain, but we'll see.

[Mirek]

Fourmaux also in troubles.

Edit: Puncture. Now he's left with only 7 snow tyres.

[wwbroe]

Ostberg lost 11,6 s from Tidemand now.
And passing him in overall classification