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KKS
5th December 2020, 10:34
from splits seems Pasquali blocking a road. So sensible move red flag stage to quickly unblock a road

Mirek
5th December 2020, 10:37
from splits seems Pasquali blocking a road. So sensible move red flag stage to quickly unblock a road

It's canceled, not temporarily stopped.

dimviii
5th December 2020, 10:39
from splits seems Pasquali blocking a road. So sensible move red flag stage to quickly unblock a road
marcin rybak photographer
@marcinrybakpho1
· 30m
...tricky conditions
@romanopasquali
@AciRallyMonza
@OfficialWRC
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoeAFOpXUAEjli0?format=jpg&name=large

KKS
5th December 2020, 10:39
It's canceled, not temporarily stopped.
so in this case definitely strange. Cuz crews still have to drive this road. For detour - it make sense

MartijnS
5th December 2020, 10:51
Seriously snowing now at ss12 I think, same photographer ^^ just posted a short video on his IG story.

dimviii
5th December 2020, 10:51
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoeI7-uW8AEoVev?format=jpg&name=900x900

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 10:53
lol what the hell happened there


E: so much snow now on the stages? that upper pic posted here?

Mirek
5th December 2020, 10:56
E: so much snow now on the stages? that upper pic posted here?

That may be an access road as well.

MartijnS
5th December 2020, 10:57
https://instagram.com/stories/marcinrybakphotography/2457416153481186651?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=u2jhgmnp8s5l

mknight
5th December 2020, 10:58
It's the highest point of SS9 where there also was most snow in the morning
Might easily by just raining om SS8 and most of SS7.

mknight
5th December 2020, 11:08
Michelin #Tyre info - SS10 / SS11 / SS12

Toyota:
Ogier/Evans/Rovanperä/Katsuta: 4 MICHELIN Pilot Sport FW3 + 2 MICHELIN Pilot Alpin A4

Hyundai:
Tänak/Sordo/Veiby: 4FW3 2A4

MSport:
Lappi: 3FW3 3A4
Greensmith: 4FW3 2A4


so most with 4/2 like in the morning, but obviously it depends what you actually put on.
Only Lappi has 3/3.

dimviii
5th December 2020, 11:17
Michelin Motorsport
@Michelin_Sport
·
1m
Michelin #Tyre info - SS10 / SS11 / SS12

WRC2 / WRC3:

Østberg/Fourmaux/Huttunen/Scandola: 4 MICHELIN Pilot Sport MW1 + 2 MICHELIN Pilot Alpin NA00
Kopecký: 5MW1

mknight
5th December 2020, 11:18
4/2 in WRC2/3 (Michelin) as well, except Kopecky with 5 (only) wets.

Again we have no idea about guys on Pirellis (Tidemand, Mikkelsen, Lindhom, Solberg...)

dimviii
5th December 2020, 11:30
before half hour Selvino stage ss10
https://www.facebook.com/EpicRallyTribe2.0/videos/143419207198966/

mknight
5th December 2020, 11:34
This one might be most tricky for tires, for 3rd they put on 2 winter, for mid full wet.

Milujeme Rally
5th December 2020, 11:36
slow motion shot in submission Kopecký
https://www.facebook.com/milujemerally/videos/415309396326239

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 11:36
Awesome morning to watch on those brilliant mountain roads with a bit of slush to catch out the unwary.

Bring on the afternoon !

dimviii
5th December 2020, 11:38
This one might be most tricky for tires, for 3rd they put on 2 winter, for mid full wet.

we dont expect the snowy patches to have melt?

Mirek
5th December 2020, 11:39
A lot more snow than in the first run but only in the highest section of the stage.

Stalled engine for Taka.

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 11:40
Wow snowy !!

TypeR
5th December 2020, 11:41
Lappi may be right with his 3 FW + 3 Snow tires.. vs others 4 FW + 2 snow

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 11:44
Proper Monte-style - big changes within the stage.

Mirek
5th December 2020, 11:49
Greensmith crashed

Augury
5th December 2020, 11:49
Big crash for Gus.

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 11:49
Noooo Gus !

er88
5th December 2020, 11:49
Big off

Rallyper
5th December 2020, 11:50
GG off!!

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 11:51
Tänak very slow in first split +6 sec

polomayu
5th December 2020, 11:51
What was the red thing in front of the car?

seb_sh
5th December 2020, 11:51
What was the red thing in front of the car?

could have been one of the people there on the side of the hill

er88
5th December 2020, 11:51
Tanak???

mknight
5th December 2020, 11:51
Looked awfully close to the spectators om right.

SubaruNorway
5th December 2020, 11:52
What was the red thing in front of the car?

Looked like a bollard was placed on the left there before they crashed, i thought it was person at first!

er88
5th December 2020, 11:52
Looked awfully close to the spectators om right.I'm very worried about that. Hopefully all ok

Tauri_J
5th December 2020, 11:53
I thought that too, scaryy

TypeR
5th December 2020, 11:53
Tänak very slow.. Wouldn't bet on his win in Monte 2021..

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 11:53
bye Hyundai manu title

mknight
5th December 2020, 11:54
Tanak prbly put on the 2 snow tires.

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 11:54
Shame for Greensmith, he was just starting to show some better times on the last couple of stages.

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 11:55
Tanak prbly put on the 2 snow tires.

dunno

already 18 sec loss in second split

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 11:56
stage stopped now?

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 11:57
Veiby now off like Gus.

Mirek
5th December 2020, 11:57
Veiby crashed on the same spot.

er88
5th December 2020, 11:57
Why doesn't the reporter ask Taka about going past Gus?!?!

Essaj
5th December 2020, 11:57
Red flagged

KKS
5th December 2020, 11:57
Tanak was very lucky one

Rallyper
5th December 2020, 11:57
Red flag! This is a farse.

Edit: Ok. Car blocking the road. Without 20 finns with ropes, it still will for minutes.

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 11:57
Tänak was lucky here, was losing a lot

of course dont know what the nominal time for him will be

SubaruNorway
5th December 2020, 11:58
Blocking the road probably

KKS
5th December 2020, 11:58
Why doesn't the reporter ask Taka about going past Gus?!?!
Cuz he down into valley

KKS
5th December 2020, 11:59
Red flag! This is a farse.
Never allow circuit orga to do a rally event

Mirek
5th December 2020, 12:00
OK, this time there's no other chance what to do. Veiby is totally blocking the road.

Essaj
5th December 2020, 12:00
Red flag! This is a farse.

Road is completely blocked? what's the farse here?

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 12:00
i wonder if Ogiers second split is slow becuase of red flag or he reached it before that

he was just 2 secs faster than Ott in split 1 and even slower on second split

Mirek
5th December 2020, 12:00
Never allow circuit orga to do a rally event

What could have been done to prevent this cancelation? I say nothing except not running the rally at all.

er88
5th December 2020, 12:01
Cuz he down into valleyBut she didn't even ask if she saw him, or the ok boards etc. Just general stock questions

KKS
5th December 2020, 12:01
a perfect weather for some rally battle ruins by few amateurs
shame

dimviii
5th December 2020, 12:01
really scary,watch these people

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoeXS8MWMAAwW-P?format=jpg&name=small

Sulland
5th December 2020, 12:01
But they are enough people to turn it to let the others through.. pls do something, and they did!!

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 12:01
Whats up with Tanak to make him slow ?

Essaj
5th December 2020, 12:02
That crash site looked like a war zone :D

Lead
5th December 2020, 12:03
The stage is cancelled?

KKS
5th December 2020, 12:03
What could have been done to prevent this cancelation? I say nothing except not running the rally at all.
10 spectators and 1 rope
even if Kalle must stop and wait, 6min it's a lot of time to move car to safe position and not effect to cars down the order

Rallyper
5th December 2020, 12:03
Road is completely blocked? what's the farse here?

Well, actually I´ve been stopped many times on stages while cars blocking the road. However this wasn´t know while writing. Read my edit.

Portimao
5th December 2020, 12:03
Amazing conditions, such commitment, I love it.

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 12:04
Tänak stopped and asking if Veiby was okay, nice gesture

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 12:04
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoeajKgXUAE3cfV?format=jpg&name=medium

mknight
5th December 2020, 12:04
Can't see they will let that run for anyone with those 2 cars lying around.

Milujeme Rally
5th December 2020, 12:04
2009

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 12:05
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoeajKgW8AA4Yzx?format=jpg&name=medium

Mirek
5th December 2020, 12:05
10 spectators and 1 rope
even if Kalle must stop and wait, 6min it's a lot of time to move car to safe position and not effect to cars down the order

There is no safe position there with a cliff on one side and rails on the other especially considering that it's a place where 2/3 cars crashed and others will most likely have big moments there too, i.e. nearly for sure somebody else would hit the standing car.

Rallyper
5th December 2020, 12:05
really scary,watch these people

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoeXS8MWMAAwW-P?format=jpg&name=small

Guess the car had already turned 180 degress, but still...

Rallyper
5th December 2020, 12:06
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoeajKgXUAE3cfV?format=jpg&name=medium

This looks nasty as well.

Sulland
5th December 2020, 12:07
Do the car have heaters to keep the mist off the windows?

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 12:07
IMO it would be fair to give no times at all fro this stage

but im still interested if Ogier reached the split2 before red flag or not

SubaruNorway
5th December 2020, 12:08
But she didn't even ask if she saw him, or the ok boards etc. Just general stock questions
They have no info at the stage end, Molly says it too that often It looks so dumb because they don't know what's going on the stage

KKS
5th December 2020, 12:09
IMO it would be fair to give no times at all fro this stage

but im still interested if Ogier reached the split2 before red flag or not
and what the option? Only WRCar was Katsuta so if stage canceled so all WRC got his time anyway

denkimi
5th December 2020, 12:10
Tänak stopped and asking if Veiby was okay, nice gesture
If there's no OK sign on the car he is obligated to stop and check.

Rallyper
5th December 2020, 12:10
What about rest of the day, then?

Essaj
5th December 2020, 12:10
Ogier, Evans, Lappi and Sordo will have brand new tires on the next stage aswell, if that plays part in these conditions.

denkimi
5th December 2020, 12:10
Do the car have heaters to keep the mist off the windows?
They have heated windscreens.

Portimao
5th December 2020, 12:11
What about rest of the day, then?

It's 2020 so I won't be surprised if cancelled.

PLuto
5th December 2020, 12:13
They have no info at the stage end, Molly says it too that often It looks so dumb because they don't know what's going on the stage

But it is their mistake they are not able to manage delivering info to them in time... In these days with modern technologies it is not so difficult...

mknight
5th December 2020, 12:13
What about rest of the day, then?

Yeez, lets panic more.

They let Sordo in and he will just drive trough.

They are holding Tidemand and all rest at start, will probably see if they can move the cars before letting him in.
I think that's still unlikely since Greensmith is below the road and the guardrail is missing. So likely stage cancelled for rest.

But cars can get by now, so no worries for other stages atm.

dimviii
5th December 2020, 12:13
They have heated windscreens.

from the way they mist they dont seem to have.
Cars i ve driven with heated windscreen they never mist.

Sulland
5th December 2020, 12:13
They have heated windscreens.

Ok, both wrc and all R5s?

Francis44
5th December 2020, 12:13
Unlucky because in most other places you could push the car out of the road, there its impossible, armco on one side, slope on the other.

No fault of the organizers at all.

Alex009
5th December 2020, 12:13
This is a joke. Its like formula nowadays, red flag asap something interesting happen. This is boring.

Spectators could move the car in couple of minutes! Warning to other drivers 500m before the place and continue. Fucking retards.

Rallying will be dead soon.

PLuto
5th December 2020, 12:14
Yeez, lets panic more.

They let Sordo in and he will just drive trough.

They are holding Tidemand and all rest at start, will probably see if they can move the cars before letting him in.
I think that's still unlikely since Greensmith is below the road and the guardrail is missing. So likely stage cancelled for rest.

But cars can get by now, so no worries for other stages atm.

I dont think so. Fourmaux is on the stage too...

Sulland
5th December 2020, 12:15
Evans Toyota had paper towels in the roof vents, to keep water from comimg in, and missing. So not very good seals on them.

mknight
5th December 2020, 12:15
I dont think so. Fourmaux is on the stage too...

Just saw that yes, so imo they have to cancel it for rest of WRC2/3 at minimum now. Interesting thing is that Formaux should start after Tidemand, but I maybe Tidemand turned of tracking? (is that possible outside of service?)

dimviii
5th December 2020, 12:17
ss 12

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_12_2020/post-2246-0-87764200-1607174068.jpg

mknight
5th December 2020, 12:18
This is a joke. Its like formula nowadays, red flag asap something interesting happen. This is boring.

Spectators could move the car in couple of minutes! Warning to other drivers 500m before the place and continue. Fucking retards.

Rallying will be dead soon.

You are a joke and those that agree with you.
Already Veiby's crash "into" Greensmiths crash scene below the edge could have ended with fatalities form spectators "that are not there". Imagine then press then.

Essaj
5th December 2020, 12:18
Tons of snow coming down to SS12 :eek:

denkimi
5th December 2020, 12:19
from the way they mist they dont seem to have.
Cars i ve driven with heated windscreen they never mist.
Just because they don't seem to work doesn't mean they don't have them.

Unless they should have banned them recently.

This is a joke. Its like formula nowadays, red flag asap something interesting happen. This is boring.

Spectators could move the car in couple of minutes! Warning to other drivers 500m before the place and continue. Fucking retards.

Rallying will be dead soon.
Have you tried to push a car with no front wheels? Veibys car is not going anywhere without a tow truck.

dimviii
5th December 2020, 12:19
https://www.zupimages.net/up/20/49/oyqt.jpg

KKS
5th December 2020, 12:21
OMG tell somebody to orga what a re-group was invented for

Alex009
5th December 2020, 12:21
Have you tried to push a car with no front wheels? Veibys car is not going anywhere without a tow truck.

They already moved it so cars can go past.

dimviii
5th December 2020, 12:23
Just because they don't seem to work doesn't mean they don't have them.

Unless they should have banned them recently.
.

and why they dont use them while they have?

dimviii
5th December 2020, 12:24
Gus replay
https://twitter.com/RubnPerez/status/1335209838763184128

Sulland
5th December 2020, 12:24
But they could have waited for the TowTruck to drag up the Fiesta, that might still be driveable, and pick op the rest of Veibys car, and continued.

Is it TV times that prevent them from doing this?

er88
5th December 2020, 12:25
Veiby might have just helped Hyundai in their manufacturers hopes, with getting the stage red flagged :D

Wonder why Tanak was off the pace, whether it was different tyre option or something else etc

KKS
5th December 2020, 12:25
But rally from the beginning was without special stages, so we back to the roots. Just crawling through roads and hoping that car get on-time into TC ...

:burp:

dimviii
5th December 2020, 12:26
10 min delay for next stage

T16
5th December 2020, 12:27
Gus replay
https://twitter.com/RubnPerez/status/1335209838763184128

So, what is the red object at about 18 secs?

PLuto
5th December 2020, 12:28
Just saw that yes, so imo they have to cancel it for rest of WRC2/3 at minimum now. Interesting thing is that Formaux should start after Tidemand, but I maybe Tidemand turned of tracking? (is that possible outside of service?)

Cancelled for all...

KKS
5th December 2020, 12:28
So, what is the red object at about 18 secs?
tyres. They put tyres stuck on every guard-rail ending

Mirek
5th December 2020, 12:31
They already moved it so cars can go past.

At a speed of 10 km/h. If they run on speed the next one coming would hit it because it was on a place where 2/3 cars crashed, i.e. others would not pass without difficulties.

the sniper
5th December 2020, 12:31
So, what is the red object at about 18 secs?

You can see it here. Had me worried at first...


https://www.zupimages.net/up/20/49/oyqt.jpg

Sulland
5th December 2020, 12:31
Who has winter tyres in the boot?
they seem to be needing them for the next stages.

denkimi
5th December 2020, 12:31
and why they dont use them while they have?
Don't ask me, i'm not the one driving.

Mirek
5th December 2020, 12:32
and why they dont use them while they have?

I'd say it's reasonably worse with rally cars than with stock cars because there is no airconditioning which greatly reduces air humidity.

mknight
5th December 2020, 12:34
Who has winter tyres in the boot?
they seem to be needing them for the next stages.

Out of the Michelin crews everyone has 2, except Lappi with 3 and Kopecky with 0.

For Pirelli we don't know.

Sulland
5th December 2020, 12:35
But rally from the beginning was without special stages, so we back to the roots. Just crawling through roads and hoping that car get on-time into TC ...

:burp:

True, but still with average speed, as a regularity rally, as Monte Carlo Historique
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bWcXBL_K4OA&t=161s

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 12:36
Wonder why Tanak was off the pace, whether it was different tyre option or something else etc

dunno but when the redflag was announced then Martin said to Ott: "okay but ill keep reading the notes and we need to hurry and win time to see whats the issue"

the sniper
5th December 2020, 12:38
I'm surprised more effort wasn't made to slow Veiby down approaching the scene...

I have no real issue with stopping the stage under the circumstances. Given how frequent stage stoppages can be now with the (semi) all seeing eye of All Live, the small number of stages on modern WRC itineraries, combined with the already short length of rallies, are a disaster. A few cancelled stages and you barely have a rally! It embarrassing and the WRC bubble need to wake up...

meh
5th December 2020, 12:39
tyres. They put tyres stuck on every guard-rail ending

This was probably life-saver move. Imagine this rail ending enter into car from front window... Also Kubica's injury comes to my mind with that. Went well.

KKS
5th December 2020, 12:39
True, but still with average speed, as a regularity rally, as Monte Carlo Historique
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bWcXBL_K4OA&t=161s
Rally Monza orga should cancel that stage! :D

Mirek
5th December 2020, 12:40
This was probably life-saver move. Imagine this rail ending enter into car from front window... Also Kubica's injury comes to my mind with that. Went well.

They do that after an accident in which Breen's co-driver Gareth Roberts died (Targa Florio 2012).

KKS
5th December 2020, 12:41
"Call for plows!!! it SNOW on SS12 or we cancel all rally!" somewhere at MonzaRally HQ

T16
5th December 2020, 12:43
"Call for plows!!! it SNOW on SS12 or we cancel all rally!" somewhere at MonzaRally HQ

serious?

KKS
5th December 2020, 12:45
serious?
no. I'm joking after so much 'circuit decisions' on a rally event

dimviii
5th December 2020, 12:48
I'd say it's reasonably worse with rally cars than with stock cars because there is no airconditioning which greatly reduces air humidity.

there is no need for air condition with front heated screen.For example see rear windscreen,defrost at one minute.


@denkimi there is no way wrc cars to have heated windscreen and drive into stage with misted windscreens.

T16
5th December 2020, 12:49
no. I'm joking after so much 'circuit decisions' on a rally event

I Shouldn’t have been so gullible!

Mirek
5th December 2020, 12:51
there is no need for air condition with front heated screen.For example see rear windscreen,defrost at one minute.

I don't know how it's in rallycars but in stock cars rear heated screen has much thicker wires, i.e. much higher heating power than the front one.

dimviii
5th December 2020, 12:51
Colin at ss 12
https://twitter.com/DirtFishRally/status/1335208784365563907

SubaruNorway
5th December 2020, 12:52
I'd say it's reasonably worse with rally cars than with stock cars because there is no airconditioning which greatly reduces air humidity.

AC normally doesn't work under 5 degrees anyway though as the condensation water can freeze, maybe they just didn't think they would need it on the Toyota's this weekend?
It was working on the i20 and Fiesta

Sulland
5th December 2020, 12:55
Lets hope we keep the rest of the RC1 cars in the rally to the end!
7 left now.

dimviii
5th December 2020, 12:56
I don't know how it's in rallycars but in stock cars rear heated screen has much thicker wires, i.e. much higher heating power than the front one.

front heated screen i ve seen are very thin,you have to stick your face to 10cm to glass to be visual,but they are at all the glass and very close something 4-5mm to the next wire.

https://www.carglassservice.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Car-Glass-Service-Windscreen-Replacement-and-Repair-London-Service-Heated-windscreen-1-1024x923.jpeg

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 12:57
Woooow Katsuta sliiide

dimviii
5th December 2020, 12:58
poor Katsu...

denkimi
5th December 2020, 12:58
@denkimi there is no way wrc cars to have heated windscreen and drive into stage with misted windscreens.
Well there's also no way they they don't have them. So if they don't work then something must be wrong.

Mirek
5th December 2020, 12:58
Biiiig spin for Katsuta

Sulland
5th December 2020, 12:58
poor Katsu...
Almost down to 6 there!

djip
5th December 2020, 13:00
Lets hope we keep the rest of the RC1 cars in the rally to the end!
7 left now.

with reverse order rules you get first cars on the road with driver "a little bit out their league" in such tricky conditions. Recipie for disaster and stages cancelations. This rally is turning into a farce, world champions will be decided tomorrow on gymkhana between hayballs. Ad i am sure the promoter (and Adamao...) love it. Welcome to the new world - this ain't going to be mine anymore ...

SubaruNorway
5th December 2020, 13:00
I don't know how it's in rallycars but in stock cars rear heated screen has much thicker wires, i.e. much higher heating power than the front one.

That's actually not true, the Ford road car like a Mondeo normally has 30A fuse for the rear and two 40A for each side at the front

TypeR
5th December 2020, 13:01
Katsuta - Rovanperä gap 3min, now Tänak started with 4min..

KKS
5th December 2020, 13:01
Did zero car on this stage go on they actual starttime? or delayed too?

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 13:01
Lappi can gain massively here with his 3 snowtyres

TypeR
5th December 2020, 13:03
I wonder, what the teams weather guys were doing.. so much snow and so all except Lappi with 4 fullwets..

denkimi
5th December 2020, 13:04
I wonder, what the teams weather guys were doing.. so much snow and so all except Lappi with 4 fullwets..
We will have to wait and see. It would be weird if everyone is wrong.

PLuto
5th December 2020, 13:04
In fact, stage was not delayed. Only first car (Greensmith) is missing...

the sniper
5th December 2020, 13:05
Surely these two stages will decide the rally.

EDIT: Maybe not!

mknight
5th December 2020, 13:07
I wonder, what the teams weather guys were doing.. so much snow and so all except Lappi with 4 fullwets..

1-2 degrees warmer and no snow would stay on the road.

Mirek
5th December 2020, 13:08
Avg. speed down from 93 to 77 in the second run!

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 13:08
Scary this - who is the bravest ?!

Mirek
5th December 2020, 13:10
Greensmith from outside: https://twitter.com/inforallyes/status/1335220719907713027

dimviii
5th December 2020, 13:10
guys it was scary,the car was already rolled,armco could penetrate glass like butter...
https://www.facebook.com/Rallysupport/videos/410291346683372/

the sniper
5th December 2020, 13:12
Nooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Essaj
5th December 2020, 13:12
Noo evans!!

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 13:12
congrats Ogier

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 13:12
Noooo Elfyn !!

T16
5th December 2020, 13:12
fucking gutted

Lead
5th December 2020, 13:13
Another red flag incomig... ? :D

Too sad for Evans.

Sulland
5th December 2020, 13:13
Fuck, Evans off. Shitt!

seb_sh
5th December 2020, 13:13
championship gone

er88
5th December 2020, 13:13
Title over. Fucking hell. Gutting

BigWorm
5th December 2020, 13:14
Title over. Fucking hell. Gutting

Ogier still has to finish... At this rate im taking nothing for granted

Sulland
5th December 2020, 13:14
Only thing to hope for is an Ogier off!

Päss1928
5th December 2020, 13:14
Pressure on Ogier now haha. He can manage ofc, grats to him.

dimviii
5th December 2020, 13:15
Ogier still has to finish... At this rate im taking nothing for granted

Tanak champion? lol

T16
5th December 2020, 13:15
Ogier is giong to look like a proper prick if he wins the championship he doesn't value.

meh
5th December 2020, 13:15
Now, if something happens with Ogier, thins may get interesting...

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 13:15
Evans was the fastest at that point.

BigWorm
5th December 2020, 13:16
Tanak champion? lol

You know, it's not impossible

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 13:16
Evans saved Ogier there

even with warning he almost went off in the same place

denkimi
5th December 2020, 13:16
Evans was the fastest at that point.
Stupid from him. All he had to do was cruise to the finish.

seb_sh
5th December 2020, 13:16
incredibly slippery

meh
5th December 2020, 13:16
Toyota vs Hyundai is getting also very interesting now...

Mirek
5th December 2020, 13:17
And Kopecký didn't take any snow tyres, 2011 deja vu...

Ucci
5th December 2020, 13:18
fucking gutted

Feel sorry for Evans, but on the other hand- huge satisfaction for Ogier, as I'm his fan. But, the rally is not over yet.....

T16
5th December 2020, 13:19
Evans saved Ogier there

even with warning he almost went off in the same place

100% agree. Ogier was off there, if they hadn't slowed him.

Milujeme Rally
5th December 2020, 13:19
Evans 2010

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 13:20
WTF Lappi slowest !

Ucci
5th December 2020, 13:20
Stupid from him. All he had to do was cruise to the finish.

Indeed....still not mature enough to become champion....especially in this difficult conditions....

dimviii
5th December 2020, 13:21
is it possible to Toyota now to become champion?

T16
5th December 2020, 13:21
Indeed....still not mature enough to become champion....especially in this difficult conditions....

Come on - that's not entirely fair. Huge difference between the conditions today as opposed to when Neuville made his mistake yesterday.

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 13:23
Lappi didnt put the snowtyres on


wtf man?

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 13:23
Lappi thought no snow !

the sniper
5th December 2020, 13:23
Boy oh boy, Lappi had snow tyres but didn't use them?

masa90
5th December 2020, 13:23
Well shit. So sad to see Evans off. The championship is pretty much gone.

Also Lappi got such bad info about the conditions. Is it down to his own crew or m-sport? Wtf no snowtires?

denkimi
5th December 2020, 13:24
Come on - that's not entirely fair. Huge difference between the conditions today as opposed to when Neuville made his mistake yesterday.
Neuville had to push. It was all or nothing for him.
Evans just had to make it to the finish before the r5 cars.

Still both stupid mistakes, they are handing the title to ogier.

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 13:24
Tanak champion? lol

he is second now, if Ogier also reitres for today

then its on for him

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 13:24
Ogier's got this.

Francis44
5th December 2020, 13:24
Crazy rollercoaster now.

meh
5th December 2020, 13:24
Tänak's "disaster stlow" does not feel that slow anymore...

Mirek
5th December 2020, 13:24
So Lappi drove on 3 wet + 1 snow...

jonkka
5th December 2020, 13:25
is it possible to Toyota now to become champion?

Yes if either Sordo or Tanak falters but a little. Difference is just five points.

Ucci
5th December 2020, 13:27
Come on - that's not entirely fair. Huge difference between the conditions today as opposed to when Neuville made his mistake yesterday.

it is precisely in such difficult & unpredictable situation driver must prove his skills.....

Mirek
5th December 2020, 13:27
it is precisely in such difficult & unpredictable situation driver must prove his skills.....

Ogier himself said he would go off in the same place if he was not warned.

AL14
5th December 2020, 13:28
Only thing to hope for is an Ogier off!

good luck with that

er88
5th December 2020, 13:29
What the fuck are Msport playing at if they've not given Lappi any info?! That's so strange if that's the case. Lappi fuming

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 13:29
Ogier himself said he would go off in the same place if he was not warned.

exactly, also i think others after him.

even with nail pace that place was so dangerous

Mirek
5th December 2020, 13:30
Close call for Tidemand too

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 13:30
Ogier wanted Evans as a team-mate to support him...

drive
5th December 2020, 13:30
next stage will have even more snow, much more

AL14
5th December 2020, 13:30
could evans still win with ps points even if ogier stays in the road?

KKS
5th December 2020, 13:31
Even if Ogier crashed on next SS Evans got 10min penalty more. So it's Ogiers title except he crashed on Sunday

Essaj
5th December 2020, 13:31
Fk Fourmaux now ;:(

seb_sh
5th December 2020, 13:31
Formaux spun just meters after Evans, it's very slippery

SubaruNorway
5th December 2020, 13:31
So now Evans needs to get 5 points on the powerstage and Ogier to come something like third and no more than 1 PS point for them to be equal on points but two wins for Evans if I'm not wrong

seb_sh
5th December 2020, 13:31
This is one of the best Monte's in recent years and it's not even Monte :D

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 13:32
what the hell Formaux didnt even hit anything?

jonkka
5th December 2020, 13:33
could evans still win with ps points even if ogier stays in the road?

If Ogier wins, he's 11 points ahead so no. But if Ogier loses several places, then maybe.

denkimi
5th December 2020, 13:33
So lappi could have won the rally but m-sport didn't bother to tell him it was snowing.

Ucci
5th December 2020, 13:34
Ogier himself said he would go off in the same place if he was not warned.

Consolation...

Essaj
5th December 2020, 13:34
what the hell Formaux didnt even hit anything?

Yeah he did, the wall on the right hand side

dimviii
5th December 2020, 13:34
Ogier : 97 + 25 = 122

Evans : 111 + 0 = 111

Tänak : 83 + 15 = 98

Neuville : 87 + 0 = 87



Hyundai : 208 + 18 + 15 = 241

Toyota : 201+ 25 + 10 = 236

tpt010
5th December 2020, 13:34
This is one of the best Monte's in recent years and it's not even Monte :D

Like Marcus Grönholm said... "this is Monza Carlo".

Mirek
5th December 2020, 13:35
Ostberg driving in walking speed now.

Tauri_J
5th December 2020, 13:35
what the hell Formaux didnt even hit anything?

Earlier maybe and that caused a spin

er88
5th December 2020, 13:36
So lappi could have won the rally but m-sport didn't bother to tell him it was snowing.I'm baffled by this. Amateur hour at Msport if so

Essaj
5th December 2020, 13:38
Could we see R5 on the podium? :crazy:

meh
5th December 2020, 13:39
Toyota need to help Lappi now with weather information I guess :)

m-ast
5th December 2020, 13:39
Could we see R5 on the podium? :crazy:

That will be epic:)

Otherwise would have been great to continue seen WRC3 cars live...

dimviii
5th December 2020, 13:39
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoenZrJW4AITkpj?format=jpg&name=large

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 13:39
Ogier said before the rally that snow could bring him the title...

the sniper
5th December 2020, 13:40
Surely Lappi is still really well placed for tyres on this last stage, where there's seemingly even more snow?

Sulland
5th December 2020, 13:40
And then they cut the transmission, I am amazed!

SubaruNorway
5th December 2020, 13:40
In the dark for the later starters and snow on the next won't be any easier!

dimviii
5th December 2020, 13:42
why?

WRC - FIA World Rally Championship
@OfficialWRC
·
25m
#BREAKING: Clerk of the course decision no. 8: @AciRallyMonza
SS4 notional times for @DaniSordo
, @EsapekkaLappi
and @KalleRovanpera
have been reduced by 2.3 seconds. The gap between @SebOgier
and @DaniSordo
before SS11 is now only 4.4sec

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 13:42
Ogier
"I'm very sorry for Elfyn Evans. It was incredible! In the corner he went off, there's nothing you can do, it's like driving on ice. With what we still have ahead, the championship is not over. I have to make it through and it's a very big challenge"

Mirek
5th December 2020, 13:42
And then they cut the transmission, I am amazed!

Next stage is on in 4 minutes.

seb_sh
5th December 2020, 13:42
ironically the wrc promotional intro is about british wrc champions...

I doubt multiple Monte winner Ogier will screw this one up...

Essaj
5th December 2020, 13:43
How many times will we see the "next british champion" segment today? :( :blackeye:

EstWRC
5th December 2020, 13:43
Lappi should gain massively now on SS12.

although i said the same for SS11

m-ast
5th December 2020, 13:43
why?

WRC - FIA World Rally Championship
@OfficialWRC
·
25m
#BREAKING: Clerk of the course decision no. 8: @AciRallyMonza
SS4 notional times for @DaniSordo
, @EsapekkaLappi
and @KalleRovanpera
have been reduced by 2.3 seconds. The gap between @SebOgier
and @DaniSordo
before SS11 is now only 4.4sec

Because Neuville car was in the middle

KKS
5th December 2020, 13:43
Andreas and Oliver are flying!

dimviii
5th December 2020, 13:44
Colin ss 12

https://twitter.com/DirtFishRally/status/1335230295365341184

TypeR
5th December 2020, 13:45
why?

WRC - FIA World Rally Championship
@OfficialWRC
·
25m
#BREAKING: Clerk of the course decision no. 8: @AciRallyMonza
SS4 notional times for @DaniSordo
, @EsapekkaLappi
and @KalleRovanpera
have been reduced by 2.3 seconds. The gap between @SebOgier
and @DaniSordo
before SS11 is now only 4.4sec

f u fia/wrc.. Tänak lost couple of seconds there, no change in time.. others got better time just for nothing..

mknight
5th December 2020, 13:45
Looks like Solberg is on 4 snow tbh.
Mikkelsen definitely at least 2 snow.
Østberg looked like 4 wets but he has 2 snow in boot.

KKS
5th December 2020, 13:47
16 sec overall now in RC2. Push that Oliver!!!

focus206
5th December 2020, 13:48
It's not over yet, Ogier has to bring it home. And Sordo and Tanak aren't that far away, considering the conditions.

Sulland
5th December 2020, 13:48
Solberg fastest Rally2 on ss11. Knowing Petter, he have 20 people on each stage reporting back on road condition, km per km. Doing the old analogue way!

mknight
5th December 2020, 13:48
Also Evans can likely do powerstage tomorrow.

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 13:49
Colin ss 12

https://twitter.com/DirtFishRally/status/1335230295365341184

Gonna be awesome.

masa90
5th December 2020, 13:49
Well, when Ogier wins this one I have to congratulate him. He just seems to always hangs there and when one of his rivals make a mistake -> always there to pick up the prizes.

Not sure really why, but I am so sad about Evans. This might be the only chance he will get for the title, just needed to cruise trough and the title would been his. Now it is over for him.

MartijnS
5th December 2020, 13:50
Seriously the commentating about the sportsmanship of Evans....
If he didn’t warn Ogier, and he went off Tanak would have been champion haha. Don’t think that was the plan.

er88
5th December 2020, 13:50
16 sec overall now in RC2. Push that Oliver!!!Brilliant from him. Mikkelsen looked to have this wrapped up, but now....

T16
5th December 2020, 13:50
Anyone notice the fluid leaking into Katsuta's Toyota? (From the light oil the rear roof area)

Essaj
5th December 2020, 13:50
I'm getting feeling that they piss their pants and cancel the stage

T16
5th December 2020, 13:51
WRC plus camera just showed the conditions in this stage. This may be far from over.

Francis44
5th December 2020, 13:52
Anyone notice the fluid leaking into Katsuta's Toyota? (From the light oil the rear roof area)

Its water from the roof vents.

polomayu
5th December 2020, 13:52
I'm getting feeling that they piss their pants and cancel the stage


Me too. Hope not!

Fast Eddie WRC
5th December 2020, 13:52
Evans would warn whoever came along next.

Sulland
5th December 2020, 13:52
Are the organizers giving them more winter tyres now, due to safety?
looked pretty winterly on the webcam they showed now.

dimviii
5th December 2020, 13:52
hmsgofficial
@HMSGOfficial
·
14s
#WRC
Information source
SS12 cancelled. #HMSGOfficial #RallyMonza

Essaj
5th December 2020, 13:52
I'm getting feeling that they piss their pants and cancel the stage

Fuckiong hell

T16
5th December 2020, 13:52
cancelled

seb_sh
5th December 2020, 13:52
aww stage cancelled