Rallye Monte Carlo 2015

[René]

Fri 11:07 - SS4: Sordo surprised
He's 35sec slower than stage leader Kubica. "It felt okay, so I thought my time would have been better - instead it was bad."

[kookie]

0.9 behind Kubica on split 3...

[N.O.T]

Loeb is not human guys... what he does is beyond human standards... he sets the bar for the human race not just rallying...

as a person i feel inferior to him... and that makes me sad because i am a fine specimen of the human kind...

[dimviii]

Loeb is going to win maybe even with dirty roads as commented plenty drivers.
Hats off Maestro!

[tommeke_B]

I feel sorry for Chris Ingram having this French guy as his co-driver... :(

He uses French pacenotes so no big issue. French is very different from English and many French people are finding it difficult to talk English. You even hear the odd accent with Loeb/Ogier/Neuville now and then. Don't blame him, but blame rallyradio for choosing him, they should know better. ;)

[trifonvl]

Loeb almost equal with Ogier in last split!!
edit. 2.3 quicker!!!!

[A FONDO]

Can't stop wondering why Sordo has been given a full 13 rounds program.

He's always been poor on Monte. But in the past he was fighting with Solberg and Hirvonen, today is way more difficult.

[KKS]

Can't stop wondering why Sordo has been given a full 13 rounds program.

if i20 there wasn't a bucket of bolts, Sordo's driving will be better

[kookie]

Loeb 7s behind Kubica at the end of SS4

[makinen_fan]

lost 4s to Ogier at finish

[jonkka]

and that makes me sad because i am a fine specimen of the human kind...

Yes, you are. But maybe we don't think the same field when we say that.

[JAM]

No, he said that it was difficult to recognise places since recce, wich is totally different. He also said that it is difficult to adapt the changes made by gravel crew.

You simple made a wrong interpretation of what the guy said... but as you didn't like him, i understand. I won't argue anymore.

[EstWRC]

Loeb and Tänak doing really great with their starting pos:)

[wwbroe]

Loeb says he did a good stage, there was a lot of mud on the road due to lot's of cutting by ortther drivers. But he is not moaning about it...

[René]

Fri 11:09 - SS4: Protasov stopped
WRC TV crews report he is changing a front left puncture. He is parked at the 13.9km point.

[N.O.T]

Loeb slower by 4 to ogier at the end... wow...

[wwbroe]

You simple made a wrong interpretation of what the guy said... but as you didn't like him, i understand. I won't argue anymore.

I never said i don't like the guy, he might be great codriver. I am only saying that his translation to English really sucks, so he is no good as a comentator at finish stops.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS4
1 Kubica
2 Ogier +3.0
3 Latvala +5.3
4 Loeb +7.0
5 Tanak +15.4
6 Meeke +17.3
7 Evans +20.6
8Ostberg +23.0...

[René]

Fri 11:11 - SS4: Tanak
Fourth fastest so far. 15.4sec slower than Kubica "Another good stage for me. We didn't have any problems."

[dimviii]

Loeb says he did a good stage, there was a lot of mud on the road due to lot's of cutting by ortther drivers. But he is not moaning about it...

dont confuse him with other champions.When he looses,he admits it with no excuses.Remember at GB when Latvala won. ''Latvala was faster this weekend,i couldn t catch him''

[Quad]

Ogier slower than Kubica at 1st split o.O

[wwbroe]

So, first besttime for Roibert Kubica in this new season, great performance by him.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kubica going well again...

[René]

Fri 11:14 - SS4: Loeb through
He can't match Kubica's pace, and completes 7sec slower, but he remains out front with a rally lead over Ogier of 24.3sec. Loeb said: "It was okay. I tried to push hard, but it was a bit like yesterday night - I didn't know how fast the others were."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

FRI 11:14 - SS4: LOEB
He can't match Kubica's pace, and completes 7sec slower, but he remains out front with a rally lead over Ogier of 24.3sec. Loeb said: "It was okay. I tried to push hard, but it was a bit like yesterday night - I didn't know how fast the others were."

[Quad]

Ogier slower than Kubica on 2nd split...

[wwbroe]

Colin Clark knows what he is doing, he asked Bruno Saby in one of the zero cars how the conditions are on the stage. Bruno was saying that it is very tricky with lot's of ice on the stage. Let's see in what condition the tyres are.

[KKS]

Ogier slower than Kubica at 1st split o.O

Kubica's power sliding technique is better for studds than Ogier's nose end first? :D

[makinen_fan]

btw nice time by Koci in SS3, 13.5 faster than Lefebre and 28 from Breen

[Langdale Forest]

What happened to Bouffuer?

[wwbroe]

Koci now just 2.2 sec behind Lefebre in overall classification, doing great job.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS5 STOP

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8BwMykIgAEdf4M.jpg:large

[PLuto]

What happened to Bouffuer?

He wanted to cut a tree yesterday...

[wwbroe]

What happened to Bouffuer?
Went off the road yesterday evening and hit a tree. No rally2 for him either, because of late entry in GAP

[Rally Talent]

I don't think SEB Chardonnet is going to be the next great French champion...

Would be interesting to hear what you base your opinion on (I'm not saying you are 100% wrong, but...). He is young and has got a lot of potential.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Only Ogier is matching Kubica so far !

[Fast Eddie WRC]

JML SS5

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8BxY9ECIAA1sgK.jpg:large

[tommeke_B]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k5HXqZZnXQ bouffier

[PLuto]

Went off the road yesterday evening and hit a tree. No rally2 for him either, because of late entry in GAP

I think it is not only because of late entry. He was noticed as retired before and he was not mentioned in start list into second leg...

[RobertS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d84asX5NzFU

[Quad]

Kubica won with Ogier

What a shame about car failure yesterday for Kubica, he would have been in top3 now...

[kookie]

Yes, 0.8s

[René]

damage on the front of Ogier's car

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier has some damage with cutting and putting snow on the road !

[Lundefaret]

Kubica's power sliding technique is better for studds than Ogier's nose end first? :D

What do You think? :)

[makinen_fan]

what a stupid answer by Ogier!

[dimviii]

Only Ogier is matching Kubica so far !
Pirelli tyres

[jonkka]

I have been often wondering that since only millionaires live in Monaco, who are the staff that man the time controls and act as marshals? All are french?

[kookie]

Ogier cutting to bring more snow on the road for runners behind him? wtf...

[Lundefaret]

Kubica won with Ogier

What a shame about car failure yesterday for Kubica, he would have been in top3 now...

He had car failure because of an accident.

[dimviii]

what a stupid answer by Ogier!

cmon i dont have radio,slill the beans

[Quad]

He had car failure because of an accident.

No. It was alternator failure.

[René]

16 - Kubica Robert / Szczepaniak Maciej): It was ok, it is very difficult condition, but you have to get use to it. We lost all the studs in the second stage so where ever there was ice and snow it was difficult.

[EstWRC]

Huge losses for the ones starting behind, waiting for Loeb and Tänak.

[kookie]

cmon i dont have radio,slill the beans

I understood something like that he cut some corners to bring more snow on the road for the cars behind him...

[Langdale Forest]

Ogier cutting to bring more snow on the road for runners behind him? wtf...

the picture of JML's car clearly shows snow thrown on the road by spectators.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans down on splits due to nearly going off ...

[thuGG]

Pirelli tyres

And a 2012 private Fiesta as opposed to brand new VW.

[kookie]

FRI 11:29 - SS5: OGIER PLAYS DIRTY
His Polo completes with snow in the front bumper. Has he been off? "No, we tried to make some cuts and put some snow on the road for the guys behind. We have a disadvantage with this road position, so now we try to turn this to our advantage."

[dimviii]

i find it,is he trying to ridicule himself? wtf????????

(1 - Ogier Sébastien / Ingrassia Julien): We tried to make some cuts and put some snow on the road, we try to make an advantage. I did some small mistake but not so bad.

[Lundefaret]

No. It was alternator failure.

So he spun and lost one of his lights because of alternator failure? Or did the alternator let go when he backed up after the spin?

[Quad]

So he spun and lost one of his lights because of alternator failure? Or did the alternator let go when he backed up after the spin?

So what you say that car can lost electric because of spin ? lol.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sébastien Ogier ‏@SebOgier 32s33 seconds ago
"Did small mistakes but not too bad. We tried to make cuts. Our position is a disadvantage all the time so we tried to make it an advantage"

[GallardoGT]

I understood something like that he cut some corners to bring more snow on the road for the cars behind him...
Ogier is just joking.

[tommeke_B]

i find it,is he trying to ridicule himself? wtf????????

(1 - Ogier Sébastien / Ingrassia Julien): We tried to make some cuts and put some snow on the road, we try to make an advantage. I did some small mistake but not so bad.

What's wrong with it? It's a good strategy and a clever thing to do... :)

[makinen_fan]

I understood something like that he cut some corners to bring more snow on the road for the cars behind him...

it's the tone in his voice that I find a bit silly

[René]

Fri 11:31 - SS5: Latava eats Ogier's snow
"It was messy in some places. The snow is in the road. I had a smooth run, but I couldn't do much better than that. It's okay."

[kookie]

the picture of JML's car clearly shows snow thrown on the road by spectators.

FRI 11:31 - SS5: LATAVA EATS OGIER'S SNOW
"It was messy in some places. The snow is in the road. I had a smooth run, but I couldn't do much better than that. It's okay."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS5: LATAVA EATS OGIER'S SNOW
"It was messy in some places. The snow is in the road. I had a smooth run, but I couldn't do much better than that. It's okay." :eek:

[wwbroe]

i find it,is he trying to ridicule himself? wtf????????

(1 - Ogier Sébastien / Ingrassia Julien): We tried to make some cuts and put some snow on the road, we try to make an advantage. I did some small mistake but not so bad.

You still don't know that is his caracter?:D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Whats with Neuville - soooooo slow.

[dimviii]

What's wrong with it? It's a good strategy and a clever thing to do... :)

i am alfraid its not enough....

[PLuto]

Ogier is just joking.

I am not sure. He is not only one who is doing it...

[Quad]

Private Fiesta faster than brand new Polo, cmon Ogier..... :o

[Fast Eddie WRC]

OGIER PLAYS DIRTY!
His Polo completes with snow in the front bumper. Has he been off? "No, we tried to make some cuts and put some snow on the road for the guys behind. We have a disadvantage with this road position, so now we try to turn this to our advantage."

[KKS]

Fri 11:29 - SS5: Ogier plays dirty!
His Polo completes with snow in the front bumper. Has he been off? "No, we tried to make some cuts and put some snow on the road for the guys behind. We have a disadvantage with this road position, so now we try to turn this to our advantage."

And photo from stage end
http://www.proza.ru/pics/2014/09/13/842.jpg

[jonkka]

Does everyone have to post the same driver quotes?

[René]

Fri 11:35 - SS5: Ostberg
He completes 27sec slower than Kubica. "You have to be happy for every stage you get through here! Try to go straight and you end up going sideways. When you see spectators you know that's where you'll be going sideways!"

[wwbroe]

Loeb's opening split 4 sec slower as Kubica and Ogier

[dimviii]

Does everyone have to post the same driver quotes?

http://rally-base.com/2015/rallye-monte-carlo-2015/?ssId=2766

[makinen_fan]

Really bad time by Evans, 47s behind Kubica

[Langdale Forest]

any more snow forecasted?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tony Simpson ‏@TonySimpson74 1m1 minute ago
Loeb , Ogier & Meeke visibly quicker towards the end of SS5, 6 cars through so far!

[jonkka]

http://rally-base.com/2015/rallye-monte-carlo-2015/?ssId=2766

And how was that related to my post?

[Lundefaret]

So what you say that car can lost electric because of spin ? lol.

Im not saying, I am asking - those are two questions ;)
Did he loose his electrics when he was going to back up after the spin, and the car suddenly died, loosing time having to reset the car etc to get it to go again?
Or did he spin because he lost his electricity?

[6789]

Does anyone have a link to picture of snow in Ogier's bumper

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And how was that related to my post?

4 - Loeb Sébastien / Elena Daniel): It was ok. I tried to push hard again, but there was mud on the road like yesterday night. I pushed hard, I did a good stage.
flash info (6 - Tänak Ott / Mõlder Raigo): It was good stage for me, tricky as always. Another relaxing stage for us.
flash info (14 - Solberg Henning / Minor Ilka): It’s ok, I try my best, it was not easy. Very difficult, I have to learn to drive with these stud tyres on tarmac.
(17 - Protasov Yuriy / Cherepin Pavlo): stopped in stage, changing puncture
flash info (8 - Sordo Dani / Martí Marc): Not bad. I thought my time was better. Everything with the car was ok.
flash info (21 - Prokop Martin / Tománek Jan): Quite ok, I drive very carefully, maybe I can go faster in some places, but clean stage for me.
flash info (5 - Evans Elfyn / Barritt Daniel): It was tricky, very good grip in some places and not in others. Some of the cars are cutting in front, so it was quite messy.
flash info (3 - Meeke Kris / Nagle Paul): I had a better rhythm. Still very tricky, a lot of mud being pulled out. On some blind corners there is some mud on the exit so very tricky. It is dry tarmac so it is difficult for the studs.
flash info (7 - Neuville Thierry / Gilsoul Nicolas): Grip was better but it still tricky and it has changed a lot compare to the recces. But it was ok.
flash info (12 - Østberg Mads / Andersson Jonas): Difficult. Quite ok, the speed is not good enough, maybe not perfect on the tyres, tried to save a little bit as there was quite a lot of tarmac, but I have no more studs.
flash info (9 - Mikkelsen Andreas / Fløene Ola): Not very good stage, the rhythm was terrible. We try to save some studs for the next stage.
flash info (2 - Latvala Jari-Matti / Anttila Miikka): A lot better than the first one, I did not have good feeling in the first one, I did not feel comfortable so I drove it very carefully.
flash info (1 - Ogier Sébastien / Ingrassia Julien): It was difficult, as I did not manage to keep the studs, it was very slippery.
flash info (16 - Kubica Robert / Szczepaniak Maciej): Everything ok, very slippery, very difficult conditions.

INFORMATION ABOUT SS 5
flash info (7 - Neuville Thierry / Gilsoul Nicolas): Definitely worse, it is getting horrible towards the end of the stage. Sometimes the spectators are putting snow on the road, so I took it really steady.
flash info (12 - Østberg Mads / Andersson Jonas): You have to be happy for every stage you get through… You try to go straight but you end up going sideways. When you see a lot of spectators, you know it is going to be sideways so you can prepare for it.
flash info (9 - Mikkelsen Andreas / Fløene Ola): I am not so sure about the last stage, we should have gone with snow tyres without studs. We continue like this.
flash info (2 - Latvala Jari-Matti / Anttila Miikka): It was messy, I had to take it carefully, very messy in some places. In some places the snow had come into the road. I had a quite smooth run and concentrating on my tactics.
flash info (1 - Ogier Sébastien / Ingrassia Julien): We tried to make some cuts and put some snow on the road for the cars behind, we try to make an advantage. I did some small mistake but not so bad.
flash info (16 - Kubica Robert / Szczepaniak Maciej): It was ok, it is very difficult condition, but you have to get use to it. We lost all the studs in the second stage so where ever there was ice and snow it was difficult.
flash info (18 - Chardonnet Sébastien / De La Haye Thibault): I needed more confidence to go fast in these conditions. It's getting better now and should improve more in the afternoon.

[René]

Fri 11:38 - SS5: Neuville
"The road conditions are definitely getting worse, especially near the end. Sometimes the spectators are throwing snow on the road, sometimes it's the cars in front. Our gravel notes are often wrong as a result."

[Francis44]

I think it is not only because of late entry. He was noticed as retired before and he was not mentioned in start list into second leg...

The car was badly damaged so, perhaps not possible to repair it.

http://www.autosport.pt/iv/1/220/39/b7basxcmaetbi8-2810.jpg

[PLuto]

And how was that related to my post?

I think they didnt understand your message. You were asking not to posting all same quotes here, but they thought you are searching where to see them...

[jonkka]

removed

I asked, why everyone have to post the same driver quotes again and again?
I did not ask you to do it one more time.

[Quad]

Im not saying, I am asking - those are two questions ;)
Did he loose his electrics when he was going to back up after the spin, and the car suddenly died, loosing time having to reset the car etc to get it to go again?
Or did he spin because he lost his electricity?

He said that he spun, took reverse,, and car lost electric and was reseting. Today he said it was alternator failure

[Langdale Forest]

Bouffier could have been in contention for the win if he didn't crash.

[dimviii]

ss5

http://nsa34.casimages.com/img/2015/01/23//150123114209193271.png

[wwbroe]

Looks like SEB1 might loose a lot of time on this one, due to really detoriating conditions on the road

[René]

Fri 11:40 - SS5: Meeke
"Good notes from our safety crew, even though spectators are throwing more snow on here and there. Conditions are very changeable - there are stretches of bone dry asphalt in there."

[Langdale Forest]

are there any forcasts of snow?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I asked, why everyone have to post the same driver quotes again and again?
I did not ask you to do it one more time.

Those driver quotes from Rally-base, not again from WRC.com.

[dimviii]

ss5

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8BwUGIIEAAQTAE.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loeb +10.0 on Ogier ...

[wwbroe]

Loeb had a moment, or what is been said on WRR?

[dimviii]

Fri 11:40 - SS5: Meeke
"Good notes from our safety crew, even though spectators are throwing more snow on here and there. Conditions are very changeable - there are stretches of bone dry asphalt in there."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8BriA4IcAAtmyS.jpg:large

[jonkka]

Those driver quotes from Rally-base, not again from WRC.com.

Oh, I see. Good thinking from your part, I apologize.

[makinen_fan]

Ott loses 39s

[Lundefaret]

He said that he spun, took reverse,, and car lost electric and was reseting. Today he said it was alternator failure

Okay.
Alternator is a big problem both in WRC and in F1. I think McLaren makes most of them? And a lot of races/rallies are destroyed because of them. Should be possible to make an alternator that works?!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Elfyn Evans ‏after touching a bank: 'Didn't have a lot of studs left - might explain why it felt good but the time wasn't necessarily what we were looking for..'

[wwbroe]

Loeb will loose half of his lead, at least half that is...

[makinen_fan]

Loeb +22 in stage. Just 3s lead from Ogier overall

[A FONDO]

Drivers comments are pretty useless anyway. They just finished a tough stage, haven't removed their helmets yet, and what could come to their minds so quickly? Just schoolgirls blabber 9 of 10 times. The snow, the tyres.... let them create a resumee in the service park would be better.

[wwbroe]

His lead only 3 seconds now

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loeb lead down to 3.0s ... even the Maestro struggling with the dirt.

[Quad]

Okay.
Alternator is a big problem both in WRC and in F1. I think McLaren makes most of them? And a lot of races/rallies are destroyed because of them. Should be possible to make an alternator that works?!


Alternator seems to be big problem usually in Fiestas. Last year I think Hirvonen had alternator failure two times ? And someone else in Fiesta too.

[wwbroe]

JML doing a smart job and into third overall now.

[dimviii]

Drivers comments are pretty useless anyway. They just finished a tough stage, haven't removed their helmets yet, and what could come to their minds so quickly? Just schoolgirls blabber 9 of 10 times. The snow, the tyres.... let them create a resumee in the service park would be better.

all drivers? or only Ogier? because silly comments are only from him.

[jonkka]

JML doing a smart job and into third overall now.

He was 3rd overall already after SS4.

[René]

Fri 11:50 - SS5: Tanak
He's 38.7sec slower than Kubica. "It's a relief to get to the end of the loop. With no studs we're sliding around a lot. For sure that's better for the people watching than for us in the car."

[EightGear]

Let's hope conditions are a bit more equal on the second loop.

[René]

Fri 11:54 - SS5: Loeb loses ground
He's smiling at the finish control, but he is 22sec slower than Ogier through the stage. Loeb completes the morning loop just 3sec ahead in the standings. "Sometime you have to fight." he says. "Very, very muddy and I have to take big, big risks to drive like this."

[WUff1]

Fri 11:54 - SS5: Loeb loses ground
He's smiling at the finish control, but he is 22sec slower than Ogier through the stage. Loeb completes the morning loop just 3sec ahead in the standings. "Sometime you have to fight." he says. "Very, very muddy and I have to take big, big risks to drive like this."

Please stop posting driver´s quotes!

[wwbroe]

He was 3rd overall already after SS4.

I know, but some people where bashing him allready:)

[makinen_fan]

Breen had a puncture in SS4 and did SS5 with 3 studded and one 'slick' tyre

[wwbroe]

Great fight in WRC2 between Lefebre and Koci, on the other hand very poor stagetimes by Breen.

[noel157]

Does everyone have to post the same driver quotes?

Yep...

[wwbroe]

Great time by Maurin on stage 5

[René]

Now the question is not to know who of Ogier or Loeb is going to win, but where are the others? After 5 stages the third is at more of 1mn....

[EightGear]

Service park live stream is up.

[tommeke_B]

Now the question is not to know who of Ogier or Loeb is going to win, but where are the others? After 5 stages the third is at more of 1mn....

One minute isn't much in Monte. Only after SS10 we can start speculating... ;)

[Rally Talent]

He had car failure because of an accident.


There are many drivers who can drive top times after retirement. It's a different game.

[A FONDO]

Meanwhile Delecour is kicking asses in RGT 8)

[EstWRC]

Now the question is not to know who of Ogier or Loeb is going to win, but where are the others? After 5 stages the third is at more of 1mn....

Yeah but look who are behind them. Tänak and Evans who have almost no experience compared to the three ahead of them. They are doing great job.

[KKS]

Good batlle - always good. But nervous Ogier with this is better :)
I'm Wonder why others so slow, Tanak, Meeke, Ostberg, Evans - all was faster yesterday and Kubica not, and today all the opposite

[Quad]

Good batlle - always good. But nervous Ogier with this is better :)
I'm Wonder why others so slow, Tanak, Meeke, Ostberg, Evans - all was faster yesterday and Kubica not, and today all the opposite


Yesterday stages was mostly slow corners, today stages are with many fast corners, that favor those with bigger balls propably :D

[EightGear]

Remember Kubica is second on the road, which was an advantage on stages 4 and 5.

[Quad]

Remember Kubica is second on the road, which was an advantage on stages 4 and 5.

and Ogier was which one on the road .... and with factory Polo vs Private Fiesta.


Stage 4 was getting better for other drivers according to Ogier so.

[EightGear]

and Ogier was which one on the road .... and with factory Polo vs Private Fiesta.


Stage 4 was getting better for other drivers according to Ogier so.

No Ogier was behind Kubica. And whatever Ogier is saying is quite often not true. :D

[wwbroe]

Good pace also by Max Vatanen, leading WRC4, i know the opposition is not very hard, but good for him anyhow.

[Quad]

No Ogier was behind Kubica. And whatever Ogier is saying is quite often not true. :D

Kubica was 2nd on the road and Ogier 3rd. Really maaassive diffrence. Please ;)

[EightGear]

Kubica was 2nd on the road and Ogier 3rd. Really maaassive diffrence. Please ;)
What are you trying to say? I didn't start about Ogier. Someone wondered why Evans, Tanak and Ostberg were slow. Well, because they're down the running order and Kubica isn't.

[Quad]

OK

[latek]

Hyundai looks the worst car by far in WRC at the moment.

[Langdale Forest]

Good pace also by Max Vatanen, leading WRC4, i know the opposition is not very hard, but good for him anyhow.

WRC4 does not exist?

[Langdale Forest]

Hyundai looks the worst car by far in WRC at the moment.

If neuville had stayed at Ford in 2014 and this year he could be winning rallies on pace alone. His win in Germany last year was the biggest surprise win ever.

[wwbroe]

WRC4 does not exist?

Ok, my mistake, let's call it RC4 then;)

[Quad]

If neuville had stayed at Ford in 2014 and this year he could be winning rallies on pace alone. His win in Germany last year was the biggest surprise win ever.

Or maybe the luckiest thanks to Latvala and Meeke :o

[miniwintz]

Hyundai looks the worst car by far in WRC at the moment.
Yeah what a shame. Neuville was the most promising young driver at the end of 2012 and look where he is now, losing his time with those clowns in this joke of a car.

[Ucci]

It is going to an interesting afternoon.
Biggest disappointing so far : both Hyundai's.
Kubica really fast; but always a question mark, until when he will be able to stay on the road....
Delecour on the 5th stage already faster than 2WD class.....surprise in those conditions.

[KKS]

So this waving from and to other only due to stage characteristic... SS3 and SS4 not favor for first cars, SS5 not for backrunners.
And that's why Loeb vs Ogier battle bouncing from one side to other. Really better will put Ogier down to the order or pull up Loeb higher to see real difference

[makinen_fan]

Conditions in SS6, really foggy at places

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8CNKyKCQAE-3BJ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8CNKveCQAAsrpM.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8CNK03CQAAGZT_.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8CNKsxCEAEYw6m.jpg

[Quad]

Ogier 2 slicks+2studs, Kubica two snow+2 studs for next loop

[KKS]

Ogier 2 slicks+2studs, Kubica two snow+2 studs for next loop
And what in a boot?

[wwbroe]

No more news on possible tyres for different competitors?

[Langdale Forest]

My predictions are that Kubica won't get though the next 3 stages.

[Langdale Forest]

Yeah what a shame. Neuville was the most promising young driver at the end of 2012 and look where he is now, losing his time with those clowns in this joke of a car.

Nueville made the same mistake that Duval made when he swapped from Ford to Citroen.

[wwbroe]

Thierry Neuville said before the rally that his aim will be to be in the finish of this rally. I think it is better approach then previous years, when he was very quick but also very soon out of the road.:)
He never finished in Monte, so maybe he is trying to finish for first time and not searching for any limits.

[bluuford]

So, basically I can understand that kubica was driving smootly and pretty safely. Ogier was slower because he was trying to create big cuts via the snowpiles and other corners. the point here is the fact that he do not need to be faster than Kubica he just needs to make the life harder for those behind him ;-)

[RAS007]

What's up with Lorenzo Bertelli and all this "fuckmatie" stuff?

[makinen_fan]

close call for Elfyn
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8CaGQGCEAAei7f.jpg

[Bartek]

Ogier 2 slicks+2studs, Kubica two snow+2 studs for next loop

Interesting tactic from Seb O, SS6 from pictures doesn't look good for a slicks

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHDaLUr6p0w

[dimviii]

Interesting tactic from Seb O, SS6 from pictures doesn't look good for a slicks
and risky in case he has destroyed 1 tyre with nails...

[wwbroe]

So, second loop of stages will be starting in about 10 minutes. Let's see what the roadsituation will be like and what tyres different competitors will have mounted on their cars.

[makinen_fan]

Ogier 2 slicks+2studs, Kubica two snow+2 studs for next loop

where is this info from?

[Quad]

where is this info from?


I saw this on twitter from someone

[makinen_fan]

3km from the end of ss6

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8CaaWSIAAAfM3L.jpg

[er88]

Nueville made the same mistake that Duval made when he swapped from Ford to Citroen.

Way to early for this comparison.

Don't forget the Hyundai isn't on the level of the other cars yet. Neuville also won his first rally last year and was on the podium a few times iirc.

I have no doubt he will be fighting for victories soon after the new Hyundai makes it debut. I think Andreas Mikkelsen Neuville will both become regular challengers for victory in the next season or two, along with maybe Meeke as well (although Kris doesnt have age on his side long term).

[Bartek]

Ostberg/Loeb: 4 snow + 2 Super Soft (SS)
Ogier: 4 studded + 2 SS

From Michelin twitter

[Quad]

Ostberg/Loeb: 4 snow + 2 Super Soft (SS)
Ogier: 4 studded + 2 SS

From Michelin twitter

Ogier must work as hard as possible to get as much snow on the road as he can ! :D

[KKS]

So, basically I can understand that kubica was driving smootly and pretty safely. Ogier was slower because he was trying to create big cuts via the snowpiles and other corners. the point here is the fact that he do not need to be faster than Kubica he just needs to make the life harder for those behind him ;-)

In next polo updates they must construct a special bomb carrier. It's more effective than snow cut's

[makinen_fan]

Sordo/Neuville/Latvala/Mikkelsen/Tanak/Meeke: 2 snow + 2 studded + 2 Super Soft
Evans/Solberg: 4 studded + 2 snow

[Mintexmemory]

What's up with Lorenzo Bertelli and all this "fuckmatie" stuff?

Been on his sunshield strip since 2013 -gone a bit more explicit but its a direct cop from FCUK for his Italian clothing company (iirc). Remember he's a Gucci family member.

[makinen_fan]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/p480x480/10425072_629692883823276_6575220852425513872_n.jpg ?oh=ab82dbc9d83399d565326a1768840812&oe=55680AC3&__gda__=1428202739_5df11b441adaf6b45c6eb17e38952ab b

[wwbroe]

On WRR Becs is just mentioning that most of stage 6 is in fog, only about 20m of visibility.

[Mintexmemory]

Way to early for this comparison.

Don't forget the Hyundai isn't on the level of the other cars yet. Neuville also won his first rally last year and was on the podium a few times iirc.

I have no doubt he will be fighting for victories soon after the new Hyundai makes it debut. I think Andreas Mikkelsen Neuville will both become regular challengers for victory in the next season or two, along with maybe Meeke as well (although Kris doesnt have age on his side long term).

Regardless of whether TN is able to be competitive in Hyundai his bank manager probably approved of the move!
Suspect he was paid quite a bit more that Duval's total career earnings.

[drive]

close call for Ogier, or MaxAttack :)
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153098777054973&set=vb.68262729972&type=3&theater

[makinen_fan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8CdLwgIMAA6LAX.jpg

[wwbroe]

Chardonet is on the stage now

[wwbroe]

close call for Ogier, or MaxAttack :)
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153098777054973&set=vb.68262729972&type=3&theater

Looks more like a close call to me...

[er88]

Loeb: 4 snow + 2 super-soft slicks
Ogier: 4 studded tyres + 2 super-soft slicks
Latvala: 2 snow, 2 studded, 2 super-soft
Tanak: 2 snow, 2 studded, 2 super-soft
Evans: 4 studded + 2 snow
Meeke: 2 snow, 2 studded, 2 super-soft
Mikkelsen: 2 snow, 2 studded, 2 super-soft

[trifonvl]

So no studs for Loeb...aggressive, i hope it pays off

[makinen_fan]

Less ice, more mud compared to 1st run according to Bruno Saby

[KKS]

So no studs for Loeb...aggressive, i hope it pays off

Maybe save tyres... only 24 studded tyre allow per rally.

[dimviii]

Bruno Saby (Car 0):

The conditions are worse than this morning, lots of fog, big changes of grip, + mud - ice this morning.

He thinks Loeb made the right bet.

[Bartek]

That's interesting


FRI 14:43 - SS7 WEATHER
Snow falling at the 18km point. Still plenty of ice.

[Quad]

Kubica and Ogier slower than Chardo at 1 st split o.O

[KKS]

Chardo finnaly find 2nd gear. Fastest so far after 1st split

[GallardoGT]

Loeb: 4 snow + 2 super-soft slicks
Ogier: 4 studded tyres + 2 super-soft slicks
Latvala: 2 snow, 2 studded, 2 super-soft
Tanak: 2 snow, 2 studded, 2 super-soft
Evans: 4 studded + 2 snow
Meeke: 2 snow, 2 studded, 2 super-soft
Mikkelsen: 2 snow, 2 studded, 2 super-soft
Can somebody briefly explain how those choises work, they dont drive with six tires right?

[Sukhoi]

Does Pirelli provide tyre choices for thier drivers anywhere?

[Quad]

Kubica faster at finish than Chardo, hard on tires...

[RAS007]

Can somebody briefly explain how those choises work, they dont drive with six tires right?

2 tires in the boot, in case they need to change...

[Googol]

Can somebody briefly explain how those choises work, they dont drive with six tires right?

They pick 4 tyres that they think suit best. So for example Loeb can use 4 snow or 2 snow and 2 supersoft (most likely crossed).

[Quad]

Ogier barely faster than Kubica

[GallardoGT]

2 tires in the boot, in case they need to change...
Thanks clear, yes they have a boot :D

[makinen_fan]

wrc split work for you?

[wwbroe]

Ogier doesn't want to speak at radio, what a joke

[Quad]

Latvala the same pace as Ogier and Kubica

[thuGG]

WTF happend to timing on WRC.com? Last year's times?

[Googol]

wrc split work for you?

I just got last year's Swedish Rally times.

[Quad]

WTF happend to timing on WRC.com? Last year's times?

http://www.wrc.com/po/wrc/results/monte-carlo/split-times/page/317-226-311--.html

[makinen_fan]

Ogier start getting really annoyed :p
Refuses to speak to radio

[Dug83]

What just happened to wrc.com?

[dimviii]

wrc split work for you?

some halts for me.Keep refreshing.Some times i saw splits from last years Sweden lol

[Langdale Forest]

wrc.com gets worse very year

[Quad]

here are good
http://www.wrc.com/po/wrc/results/monte-carlo/split-times/page/317-226-311--.html

[Miika]

wrc split work for you?

I see Tommi is clearly faster than Carlos on this stage.

[makinen_fan]

Interesting Latvala says, it was snowing at the start and there is a lot more snow and ice

[Sukhoi]

so far studded tyres were one to choose for S6

[JAM]

close call for Ogier, or MaxAttack :)
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153098777054973&set=vb.68262729972&type=3&theater


That's his way to put snow on the road :D

[KKS]

I think Ogier made bad tyre choise :D

[wwbroe]

WTF is going on with splits on wrc.com, i see Rally Sweden's times of last year...

[Quad]

Ostberg veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeryyyy sloooooooooooooooooow

[wwbroe]

And Citoren's splits not working either

[Quad]

Here you have good splits...
http://www.wrc.com/po/wrc/results/monte-carlo/split-times/page/317-226-311--.html

[amilk]

Ogier doesn't want to speak at radio, what a joke

always like a kid

[makinen_fan]

Ostberg looses a lot, 26s behind. Maybe their tyre choice was not good

[sp0+]

WTF is going on with splits on wrc.com, i see Rally Sweden's times of last year...

That's because of the amount of snow in this year's Monte!!! :)

[amilk]

Ostberg veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeryyyy sloooooooooooooooooow

it's a waste for Citroen to give their car to him this year again

[nafpaktos]

always like a kid
Ridiculous

[Bartek]

It looks like a Ostberg is a source of informations for Loeb?

[Langdale Forest]

That's his way to put snow on the road :D



You can see Ogier sliding deliberately into the snowbank to make the left hand corner difficult for the cars behind.

[Quad]

Meeke 4 seconds behind

[makinen_fan]

It looks like a Ostberg is a source of informations for Loeb?

there is no time for Loeb to do anything anyway
sounds like 4 studded would be the best choice as with morning

[kookie]

Neuville said 2 studded/2 snow is the wrong choice for SS6... it will be interesting to see Loeb with 4 winter tires.

[N.O.T]

Do not be hard on Ogier boys... if someone came to your house and pissed on your carpet you would be upset too... I think he will lead by the end of the day by 10-20 secs... if not tomorrow it might be hard for him if the roads are icy.

[Bartek]

there is no time for Loeb to do anything anyway

Yes, but Ostberg can tell him something about conditions from rally car, not from icy crew which drive slowly I think

Anyway, this is a proper Monte which we are waiting all year :)

[Langdale Forest]

The only splits on wrc.com are from Sweden last year.

[Quad]

The only splits on wrc.com are from Sweden last year.

http://www.wrc.com/po/wrc/results/monte-carlo/split-times/page/317-226-311--.html


Sordo and Solberg looosing a lot on 1st split already

[N.O.T]

The only splits on wrc.com are from Sweden last year.

no they are not... they are working fine it is just you making the wrong choices once more...

[Quad]

Sordo slowest so far

[trifonvl]

Let's wait until the end of the loop to see who made the right choice..

[Langdale Forest]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153098777054973&set=vb.68262729972&type=3&theater


You can see ogier deliberately pulling snow onto the road.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans - another angle

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8CkuvVCQAA3r1Y.jpg

[nafpaktos]

-0.6 for the king

[René]

Have you the spilt time working on WRC ?

[N.O.T]

I think from the splits so far for the last section you need studs...

[N.O.T]

Have you the spilt time working on WRC ?

yes http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/results/monte-carlo/split-times/page/317-226-311--.html

[Bartek]

Ok, so Master doesn't need correct tyres? :)

[wwbroe]

That is because he is the master !!!

[Langdale Forest]

How much snow & ice are on the next 2 stages?

[makinen_fan]

And he is quickest!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loeb fastest - wow with no studs !

[trifonvl]

Yeeeeesssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!

[N.O.T]

studs are needed for the last section...

[sp0+]

yessssssss!!!!

[rage82]

No words about the Master!

[N.O.T]

-12.5 on second split... Lolzors

[René]

yes http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/results/monte-carlo/split-times/page/317-226-311--.html

Thanks a lot !

[N.O.T]

Lets see how much loeb will lose on the ice section...

[nafpaktos]

Won the stage

[N.O.T]

Lost around 8 seconds on the last section still won the stage...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans SS6 - 'We had a spin in there which was completely unnecessary. A silly mistake. So considering that the time's not too bad.'

Come on Elf - get it together !