Rallye Monte Carlo 2015

[denkimi]

did i mention luck anywhere in my sentence ? are you one of the special kids of this forum as well ?

so you're saying loeb controls the weather then?

[satukata]

Live picture 4km from SS1 finish: heavy snowfall. Elevation= ca 700m
http://webcam.annot.com/

now its snowing heavily! I hope some snow!

any other info about road conditions?

[N.O.T]

so you're saying loeb controls the weather then?

i am saying you should either wake up or change sport...

[tommeke_B]

That's what over use of the dodge/burn tool in Photoshop can do...
Better don't watch Lavadinho's photos too much... His editing is horrible..

[Mintexmemory]

I hope Loeb and Meeke can fight with VW boys tomorrow too..

So for the sake of argument at the start of the final stage Loeb is 1st and Meeke 2nd - Loeb wins I assume and Matton will just have to hope Meeke keeps that form for the rest of the year. Nothing like winning to give that boost to the confidence though!!

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-ihXaY8heM

[Negaiss]

now its snowing heavily! I hope some snow!

any other info about road conditions?

Yes! Heavy snow in high places and rain at low places right now - current radar http://www.vigilance-meteo.fr/de/europa/frankreich/wetter-provence-alpes-cote-dazur/map/290/?#radar.

But snowing will stop in few hours (at night). There will be lots of snow in the region of stages 1 and 2, but most of it can melt tomorrow during the daytime.
Colder air starts to come in tomorrow evening so there is a chance, that wet roads turn icy during first two stages.

[dimviii]

A year has passed already since we were last in Gap, shaking hands and wishing each other a Happy New Year after the winter break.
Little has changed since 2014 and, once again, there has been a healthy flow of spectators in the service park. And you can bet that where the crowds formed, there was a ‘Seb’ – or a ‘Seb-car’ – nearby!
It’s effectively been some time since we last saw so many people in front of the Citroën area. Unsurprisingly, they tended to gather at one end, near the DS3 WRC with the letters L-O-E-B on the side windows, hoping to catch a glimpse of the seven-time Monte winner (2003/04/05/07/08/12/13). Each time he did appear, the familiar chant of “Seb, Seb!” broke out spontaneously.
There have been similar gatherings at Volkswagen Motorsport’s ‘garage’, in this case waiting to catch sight of Sébastien Ogier. The VW driver may not enjoy the same household reputation as his Alsace-bred rival, but here he is on home soil, since he was raised in the mountains north of Gap. That said, some of the local onlookers could be heard whispering “Is that him?” as they pointed to his co-driver Julien Ingrassia, or to team-mate Jari-Matti Latvala…
Eight years younger than Loeb, Ogier has won the Monte twice (2009/14) and is looking to take a step closer to his former team-mate’s record this week, but rally fans are hoping that their media-fuelled rivalry will produce a memorable battle to celebrate Loeb’s fleeting return from ‘retirement’.
The latter ended his formal WRC career with a roll on the 2013 Rallye de France. Funnily enough, he began his comeback event with another roll, this time on a road section during this morning’s recce! It appears he was distracted and slipped off the road negotiating a hairpin…
This afternoon’s shakedown was always going to provide an interesting indication of the pair’s current respective form and Loeb promptly posted the session’s best effort (2m21.0s). That was more than a second clear of Ogier over the snow-free 3.52km run!
Clearly, the Citroën driver hasn’t lost his touch and it seems we are effectively heading for the clash of giants everybody has been hoping for.
That said, the two Frenchmen will spend much of the rally running up to 14 cars apart on the road (with Ogier at the front of the field) and there is a chance that this difference will affect their stage times and tactics. But in whose favour? That remains to be seen and, to a large extent, will depend on how the week’s weather turns…
We shall see!

http://en.best-of-rallylive.com/News/Rallye-Monte-Carlo-WRC-Loeb-claims-psychological-advantage

[Mirek]

monte was almost never about driving... was about conditions and choices...

Even then it was a lot about driving. I will give You one example. In 2012 I was standing at the uphill section towards Col de Gaudissart. The road was covered by ten centimeters thick solid ice. It was raining and a the ruts were full of water. Loeb looked nearly slowest of all the competitive field driving slowly precisely in thew ruts but he won the stage. For example Solberg was all over the place but ended in a snow barrier one hundred meters from us. This was probably the most weird rally experience for me when the slowest looking were fastest and the fast looking were slow.

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3osPiwKXy1M

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10929153_493139837526184_1978067019440052543_n.jpg ?oh=7f3e12a9ac3e1135e0862b1c16dde530&oe=556A405B&__gda__=1429093603_5c5056bd30ad9fd62733f9efce05d24 c

[dimviii]

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/monte-carlo-2015/015.jpg
http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/monte-carlo-2015/008.jpg
http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/monte-carlo-2015/016.jpg

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-monte-carlo-2015/

[dimviii]

Meeke answers fans questions
http://www.krismeeke.com/news/2015-01-21-your-questions-to-kris-monte-prebrief

i d like to see that from more drivers!

[N.O.T]

Even then it was a lot about driving. I will give You one example. In 2012 I was standing at the uphill section towards Col de Gaudissart. The road was covered by ten centimeters thick solid ice. It was raining and a the ruts were full of water. Loeb looked nearly slowest of all the competitive field driving slowly precisely in thew ruts but he won the stage. For example Solberg was all over the place but ended in a snow barrier one hundred meters from us. This was probably the most weird rally experience for me when the slowest looking were fastest and the fast looking were slow.

no... simple as that... judging the condition of a whole stage from a single corner just won't do... nope... no. I am talking about driving skill not surviving...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sebastien Loeb made a sensational return to the World Rally Championship with the fastest time in this afternoon's Monte Carlo Rally shakedown stage.

And his time - four tenths of a second quicker than Citroen team-mate Kris Meeke - was even more impressive considering he had rolled his recce car on the way to a stage this morning.

Loeb set the benchmark time through the 2.13-mile shakedown stage on his first run. He attempted the test four more times, but the road condition was deteriorating all the time.

Loeb said: "The first run was perfect. After that, the road was a big mess with mud everywhere. I couldn't drive as I would drive if it was clean, so I didn't [push]."

When the competition proper starts tomorrow, Loeb will be running in 14th place because he scored no points in last year's championship.

"With the new regulations, we will stay there as well," said Loeb. "Depending on the conditions, maybe it's good [to be 14th] or maybe we have no chance.

"We will see where we are. I can only try my best."

The Frenchman's recce shunt happened when he came over a crest and missed a corner.

A spokesman from the team said: "It wasn't a problem. Sebastien didn't miss any of the recce or anything like that, he was able to change the car and continue straight away."

Meeke was happy with his time, the Dungannon man's final run coming on studded tyres as he sought to find the feeling with the wrong tyres - a scenario which is certain to come the way of the crews with heavy snow forecast overnight.

Defending champion Sebastien Ogier was third fastest, 1.1 seconds off Loeb, with his Volkswagen team-mate Andreas Mikkelsen a tenth of a second down in fourth place.

Robert Kubica was fifth fastest on his debut with his new RK World Rally Team, with fellow Ford Fiesta RS WRC driver Elfyn Evans 0.1s behind him in sixth place.

The crews will depart Gap tomorrow morning to make the official photograph in Monaco before attending a start of the season party and the ceremonial start tomorrow afternoon.

The first stage - a 13-miler from Entrevaux-Rouaine - gets underway at 20:21 local time.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS9 this morning... hope there's more like this...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B75r6J_CAAAi7C8.jpg:large

[dimviii]

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/q83/p480x480/10502523_773581159363699_7747387712000547339_n.jpg ?oh=f351175250619dd0861c5dee619f2f42&oe=5521F481
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10882288_493151034191731_5051174856648498024_n.jpg ?oh=9edcabbf8cf90cf01dbcf5b033f7e513&oe=5531083D&__gda__=1432690309_62d7fadc533f8d1613c539b897d2de3 2

[makinen_fan]

They don't even put the rear bumper on even during shakedown??

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10942736_767261543353750_3490485577644338451_n.jpg ?oh=5c3d014ba41ed9a77b295809e1907784&oe=55215BA6&__gda__=1428710010_c579157afc06b0162890d9c08d3bb4e c

[Francis44]

Another video from WRCantabria:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb4f5ZL8qJI

[dimviii]

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10931330_767261466687091_5516467965410449221_n.jpg ?oh=731e17ff677b9f11a99c9a99caa6eab5&oe=55622FD7
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10384619_767261173353787_6190141068216810586_n.jpg ?oh=290aad2416d4251e3615cad12cb5dd90&oe=555D287A&__gda__=1432896194_a6672d5a18928ec90c2ddfb958f751b 0
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10896915_767261266687111_6405772432383355706_n.jpg ?oh=b65b7919dd55affe3f5844b65ff493f0&oe=5564CD84&__gda__=1429191477_8f9033b8a5d4e8348de66fd05e11626 3
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10382623_767261493353755_8103901941060099383_n.jpg ?oh=5415726e1ac0e4611499878438b47100&oe=5567819E&__gda__=1428326182_b8faee86654f401c4603f20ec8bd5ce c

[dimviii]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2015/1332/1332_rally_monte_carlo_2015_c0a2d7ca2e.jpg
http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1332

[makinen_fan]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/32/06/Rallye_Monte_Carlo_2015_007_320698_54bffb119.jpg

[Francis44]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eDk6KgdA70

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B75wpmxCQAEoY4c.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B75x3WyCEAIH9JK.jpg

[Eli]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eDk6KgdA70

evans looks fast, & Kubica & Meeke looks like they're this close to crashing.

[Francis44]

evans looks fast, & Kubica & Meeke looks like they're this close to crashing.

Indeed. For some reason Tanak's Fiesta sounds much more agressive than the privateer cars.

[dimviii]

In the WRC 2 category, Stéphane Lefebvre set the fastest time in the DS 3 R5, whilst Simone Tempestini, Quentin Gilbert and Terry Folb formed the top three in the FIA Junior WRC, all in DS 3 R3s.

Sébastien Loeb: “I got the feeling back. It’s a little bit different, as I haven’t driven on roads like these for a long time. I’m really happy to be here and to see everyone from the rallying world again. Monte-Carlo is a home event for Daniel and the stages are in France. We’re here to enjoy ourselves. It’s difficult to tell what will happen once the rally gets underway; it’ll all depend on the conditions!”

Kris Meeke: “Traditionally, everyone wants a Monte-Carlo with ice, snow and rain… but it’s really tough for the drivers! There are hazards everywhere because of the weather. There’s a long way to go until we reach the Col de Turini and Monaco. We did some very good test runs and I feel good in the DS 3 WRC. You can never be confident before the start of a Monte-Carlo, but I feel relaxed.”

Mads Østberg: “The set-up was perfect. The shakedown went very well. I just needed to get used to the DS 3 WRC again and to these very specific conditions. The roads were very slippery. We took advantage of the conditions to test different types of tyres. I can’t wait for tomorrow!”
http://www.citroenracing.com/en/2015/news/wrc-news/63762/sebastien-loeb-lays-marker-return-ds-3-wrc/

[EstWRC]

Tänak said that they were trying different tires and settings and collected information how different tires would work.

[dimviii]

http://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Rallye+Monte+Carlo+2015/

[dimviii]

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/32/07/Rallye_Monte_Carlo_2015_008_320700_54bffb136.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/32/06/Rallye_Monte_Carlo_2015_006_320696_54bffb100.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/32/06/Rallye_Monte_Carlo_2015_005_320695_54bffb0f3.jpg
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/32/07/Rallye_Monte_Carlo_2015_013_320784_54c00d9d7.jpg

http://www.rallye-magazin.de/typo3temp/yag-galleries/32/07/Rallye_Monte_Carlo_2015_013_320784_54c00d9d7.jpg

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TngQFu0bevg&feature=youtu.be

[Fly_Half]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eDk6KgdA70

Being a parent, seeing a young child stood right on the inside of that crowded corner at 1:58 really frightens me.

[danon]

monte was almost never about driving... was about conditions and choices...

It's your opinion and opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one.

[N.O.T]

It's your opinion and opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one.

of course... but it matters where you base your opinion upon.

[dimviii]

http://www.rallyecult.alpha.webspace24.de/monte15/10.jpg

http://www.rallye-cult.de/rallye_2015/monte/monte.html

[stefanvv]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfbC9IOVZDM

[KKS]

A year has passed already since we were last in Gap...
seven-time Monte winner (2003/04/05/07/08/12/13). ...
http://en.best-of-rallylive.com/News/Rallye-Monte-Carlo-WRC-Loeb-claims-psychological-advantage
Who wrote this article? some f1 fan?
Solberg not more WRC 2003 champion - now it's Loeb ? :D

[N.O.T]

Who wrote this article? some f1 fan?
Solberg not more WRC 2003 champion - now it's Loeb ? :D

refers to monte wins... not championships.

[KKS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3osPiwKXy1M
Chardo and Loeb has same line, and on eye same speed.
Looking forward to see him on stages.

[Lundefaret]

Even then it was a lot about driving. I will give You one example. In 2012 I was standing at the uphill section towards Col de Gaudissart. The road was covered by ten centimeters thick solid ice. It was raining and a the ruts were full of water. Loeb looked nearly slowest of all the competitive field driving slowly precisely in thew ruts but he won the stage. For example Solberg was all over the place but ended in a snow barrier one hundred meters from us. This was probably the most weird rally experience for me when the slowest looking were fastest and the fast looking were slow.

You witnessed the "secret" of Loeb.
Then think about how slow it feels inside the car, and the mental belief You have to have to be able to trust that going slow is the fastest.
This is very much the centre of Nose End First.

[danon]

http://s12.postimg.org/r3z85bqa5/Lvs_O.jpg

[bluuford]

Real winter wonderland close to Ss1 and 2:
http://webcam.annot.com/
Snowfall is going to end soon, there will be nice weather tomorrow and a lot of snow is going to melt, however, temperature drops below zero before the stages go live. So, we have probably a lot of snow on the higher elevations and ice on lower elevations and some normal tarmac as well. Looks pretty tricky combination.

[Andre Oliveira]

First pics of eWRC-results.com here (http://ewrc-results.com/foto.php?e=18216&t=Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2015) by Greg Roslon

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2015/grr_5.jpg

[noel157]

Real winter wonderland close to Ss1 and 2:
http://webcam.annot.com/
Snowfall is going to end soon, there will be nice weather tomorrow and a lot of snow is going to melt, however, temperature drops below zero before the stages go live. So, we have probably a lot of snow on the higher elevations and ice on lower elevations and some normal tarmac as well. Looks pretty tricky combination.

The best combination for Monte-Carlo.

[noel157]

Being a parent, seeing a young child stood right on the inside of that crowded corner at 1:58 really frightens me.

Saw that, absolutely stupid and irresponsible.

[Mintexmemory]

Saw that, absolutely stupid and irresponsible.

One of the probs with the Monte is that it does attract the 'once a year' crowd that live nearby (and probably vote for Le Pen!).

[PLuto]

Start list into first leg is available - http://rally-base.com/2015/rallye-monte-carlo-2015/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=523

[dimviii]

start list
http://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/START-LIST-SECTION-1-TC0.pdf

[danon]

You witnessed the "secret" of Loeb.
Then think about how slow it feels inside the car, and the mental belief You have to have to be able to trust that going slow is the fastest.
This is very much the centre of Nose End First.

Right said Lundefaret - dead right as always!

[KKS]

Youtube playlist with Monte`15 videos
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaJvc5lP69OiBswiArlYIjuMciKHn0zQA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHY74Ntvf9I&list=PLaJvc5lP69OiBswiArlYIjuMciKHn0zQA)
do for myself, maybe could be useful for others

[Quad]

Start list into first leg is available - http://rally-base.com/2015/rallye-monte-carlo-2015/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=523

Well, if they will be lucky with conditions Loeb and Kubica can really benefit from this starting position

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great SD video:

http://youtu.be/ZfbC9IOVZDM

[dimviii]

23. DUMAS/GIRAUDET
Arrive au ralenti poussé par les commissaires. - Arrives slowly pushed by the marshalls.

[giu canbera]

Kubica's car looks nice.. but dude, those VW Polos are.... *__*

[satnav]

If I remember Kielder was asking about the road closure info , I just checked again and the info is in the Rally Guide 2 appendix this year

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLv7EaXWeQc

[KKS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTRg-biyIWM

[Kielder]

If I remember Kielder was asking about the road closure info , I just checked again and the info is in the Rally Guide 2 appendix this year

Hi, thanks for your help, but those times aren't real. A few hours ago I've found them at Sospel's web. The road will be closed from 16h30 on Saturday (the document says from Sospel, but I believe it will be the same from La Bollene-Vesubie). So I'll have to reach the Col from St Roche-Peira Cava.
Here's all the info:
http://www.mairiedesospel.fr/modules/news/article.php?storyid=152

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82KDiPs6SEY

[Dug83]

evans looks fast, & Kubica & Meeke looks like they're this close to crashing.

How can Meeke look close to crashing when he is not even in the video you quoted?

[Francis44]

In all those videos Tanak's Fiesta does sound more agressive, anyone else notice this? I dont know if it's broken exhaust or what.

[noel157]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B78LF2MIAAAsXi1.jpg


You talkin' me?*

*De Niro in Taxi Driver.

[drive]

Very good example of different driving approaches:


1) Kubica
High entry speed. Prolonged rotation of the car (change of direction happens over a long distance), and too early on the acceleration on the exit.
This leads to a very wide turn, and very low grip on the exit because he newer gets the car to squat.
He also drives a longer line than neccesary (covers more metres then he have to).
A big tell tale in this sequense is how much of a turn the next flat left is. Kubica enters this on the inside (left side), så he has to make a real change of direction.

2) Mikkelsen
This is close to perfect!
He goes straight in to the corner, and is much more consise on the rotation, flipping the car around to the attack angle he wants out of the corner. Because of his speed and line his exit is now on the inside of the exit, meaning he is pointed directly where he wants to travel, seen clearly in the next left.
He is quite deep in the corner when he aplies the throttle (he waits to the correct time), and when he accelerates the car travels almost in a completly straight line. This means that the only forces now acting on the car will be the forces he aplies trough the throttle. This way its much easier to find grip, and the car responds by squatting in the rear, a clear sign of high grip.
It could have been a little bit smoother stil on the exit, but this was VERY, VERY good!

3) Bouffier
Has the right angle in to the corner, but understeers under braking. Drives trough the corner on the front wheels when he finds grip. On the exit he has a very good line, and can apply much throttle without wheels spin.
This is really a cock up, but because of the line he travels, his acceleration is still very good.

4) Evans
Drives tha car on understeer, and is not able to get the car to point in the direction he should, so the moment of understeer lasts too long. Acceleration is hampered, and the next left also becomes a small corner.
But still a better tactic than Kubica.
I've tried to 'visualise' that hairpin - starting with aligned 'car noses' and after the hairpin you could see who is fastest...
http://youtu.be/0y80Xt9EUxw

[RICARDO75]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQo8OIjPjM4&feature=em-uploademail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dl3lLVPcwU&feature=em-uploademail

[Quad]

I've tried to 'visualise' that hairpin - starting with aligned 'car noses' and after the hairpin you could see who is fastest...
http://youtu.be/0y80Xt9EUxw

I think it should be only compared with drivers on the same tires. Kubica has pirellis which seems to not handle as good as Michelins in this conditions, and not surprising that Polo WRC is fastest on hairpins.

[thuGG]

Pirellis have less grooves, apparently they are better in dry conditions and worse in wet. It's part of the game.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Getting ready for the official start...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B78qLPjIYAAvwFd.jpg

End of SS1 last night - full snow !!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B78P5v9CcAA4EtS.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Watch WRC Monte launch LIVE from 1400hrs on http://wrc.com :)

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/january-2015/season-opening/page/2068--12-12-.html

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B78wSFCCIAM_cTd.jpg:large

[A FONDO]

all of them are repulsively ugly

[Mirek]

That plastic snow at the Casino worth a facepalm...

[makinen_fan]

why is the Citroen with gravel setup?

[Miika]

why is the Citroen with gravel setup?

For taking a shortcut.

[tommeke_B]

That plastic snow at the Casino worth a facepalm...

I think it fits with the palm trees...

[AdvEvo]

I've tried to 'visualise' that hairpin - starting with aligned 'car noses' and after the hairpin you could see who is fastest...
http://youtu.be/0y80Xt9EUxw

You just want as little slip as possible. It s more boring to watch but it s the fastest way.

Also diff lock setting is important more diff lock is more understeer but give more traction on acceleration. An other big factor is you're right foot. You need to find max traction with you're right foot.

[jbmarcus21]

#montecarlo15 - Photos + Videos Shakedown http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/wrc-rallye-monte-carlo-2015/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

DS3 was like this on the launch of the new livery too, strange...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7ejHrkIEAA9_-P.jpg

[KKS]

Watch WRC Monte launch LIVE from 1400hrs on http://wrc.com :)

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/january-2015/season-opening/page/2068--12-12-.html

streaming will be at same channel as "Service Park stream" ? or other.
And no info about some live stages from french TV crews?

[mousti]

Just the same car, they don't use a car that's going to compete this week.

[René]

streaming will be at same channel as "Service Park stream" ? or other.
And no info about some live stages from french TV crews?

The stages 1 - 13 - 15 will be able to be looked here:
http://cricfree.sx/watch/live/fia-world-rally-championship-live-streaming

[Lundefaret]

I've tried to 'visualise' that hairpin - starting with aligned 'car noses' and after the hairpin you could see who is fastest...
http://youtu.be/0y80Xt9EUxw

Marvelous Mr drive!

This is perfect!

The "secret" is hidden at 0:06 (six) seconds.
Here You can see:
Top left: Still caught in understeer, driving around the corner.
Top right: Pointed in the direction of wanted travel, ready to start straight acceleration.
Bottom left: Caught in massive understeer/overshoot
Bottom right: Pointed in the right direction, but farther down the road (already behind), and with a lot of sideways forces acting on the car forcing it towards us.

[makinen_fan]

wrc youtube channel to have live coverage??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDTNxD_kCeo&x-yt-ts=1421782837&x-yt-cl=84359240&feature=player_embedded

[trifonvl]

Here is live already

http://www.wrc.com/live-ticker/live_popup_stream.html

[jacko]

FYI:

Volkswagen Icecrew:
Sebastien Ogier: Nicolas Vouilloz/Jack Boyere
Jari-Matti Latvala: Toni Gardemeister/Jakke Honkanen
Andreas Mikkelsen: Bernt Kollevold/Timo Alanne

Citroën Racing icecrew:
Sebastien Loeb: Patrick Magaud/Eric Jordan
Mads Östberg: PG Andersson/Torsten Erikson
Kris Meeke: Stephen Whitford/Derek Branningan

Hyundai icecrew:
Thierry Neuville: Bruno Thiry/Michel Luxen
Dani Sordo: Enrique Ojeda/Pablo Marcos

M-Sport icecrew:
Elfyn Evans: Gwyndaf Evans/Craig Parrow
Ott Tänak: Timo Kankkunen/Kudar Sikk

Privat drivers icecrew:
Bryan Bouffier: Pascal Enjolas/Olivier Vitrine
Henning Solberg: Matthew Wilson/Stuart Loudon
Robert Kubica: Simone Campedelli/Michele Ferara
Martin Prokop: Stefan Vojtech/Michal Ernst
Armin Kremer: Raimund Baumschlager/Walter Illmer

[dimviii]

Sébastien Ogier: "I am more relaxed early this year because if it goes less well (Monaco and Sweden), I will be better placed on the road in these rallies, so I'll have a less difficult task (note: Ogier will start first on the road, and thus sweep the track in the gravel rallies if it is leading the championship). so, I'm more relaxed in Monte Carlo, because if I start the season well then I will suffer. in fact, I feel I get into a weird season. the motivation is still there, but it is different. "

Sébastien Ogier: "Honestly, there Seb Loeb or not ... It'll be a very serious competitor again, it will certainly be at the forefront in any case he is capable, but I especially want to focus about myself. I do not necessarily race as a duel against him, do not forget the other, especially on a rally as the Monte Carlo, where there are often surprises.

http://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_ogier-vs-loeb-les-seb-croisent-les-mots?id=8825109

lol

[dimviii]

Colin Clark @voiceofrally · 48m 48 minutes ago

Arrival control SS1, 30cms of snow overnight but road is clear and wet. Will ice up later though. Should be fun!
https://twitter.com/voiceofrally

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Here is live already

http://www.wrc.com/live-ticker/live_popup_stream.html

Starting now.

[AL14]

Meanwhile in finland465

(sry for OT) :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Arrival control SS1, 30cms of snow overnight but road is clear and wet. Will ice up later though. Should be fun!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B79B31XIAAI0FdY.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Boring presentation...

Watch another SD video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGhhhuPFgwE

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier taking Idris Elba for a drive in the Polo.

[EightGear]

They shouldn't have put that microphone any centimeter higher. :D

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/22/7ae83f9d27845030c676d3951b532eed.jpg

[AL14]

“We want to offer a special occasion to open the season, an event that appeals not just to the world of WRC, but one that also showcases the excitement and drama of the championship to a broader public.”

Lol, it seems they are getting away to actual public instead. What's this Monaco rich pampered idiots stuff?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans will be taking out DC ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B79S584CAAAKH0p.jpg

[A FONDO]

They shouldn't have put that microphone any centimeter higher. :D



perhaps they used loeb to measure the lowest possible position

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Garbage this - video & sound not in sync... :(

[Ucci]

Rich boy :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXLGs3HBWCk&feature=youtu.be&a

[noel157]

Garbage this - video & sound not in sync... :(

Not so good is it? Poor sync, camera man loses cars. As long as it's good tonight no big deal.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Not so good is it? Poor sync, camera man loses cars. As long as it's good tonight no big deal.

Just got a bit better with Neuville on track...

EDIT - gone again with Delecour interview :(

[turves]

radio is all over the place. Mainly music then fading to part of an interview thats already started before fadig back to music before its finished.

Not a good experience.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Radio probably better than the video stream which makes it all look chaotic...

[GallardoGT]

Hearing the streaming feels like deja vu.

[Co-driven]

FYI:

Volkswagen Icecrew:
Sebastien Ogier: Nicolas Vouilloz/Jack Boyere
Jari-Matti Latvala: Toni Gardemeister/Jakke Honkanen
Andreas Mikkelsen: Bernt Kollevold/Timo Alanne

Citroën Racing icecrew:
Sebastien Loeb: Patrick Magaud/Eric Jordan
Mads Östberg: PG Andersson/Torsten Erikson
Kris Meeke: Stephen Whitford/Derek Branningan

Hyundai icecrew:
Thierry Neuville: Bruno Thiry/Michel Luxen
Dani Sordo: Enrique Ojeda/Pablo Marcos

M-Sport icecrew:
Elfyn Evans: Gwyndaf Evans/Craig Parrow
Ott Tänak: Timo Kankkunen/Kudar Sikk

Privat drivers icecrew:
Bryan Bouffier: Pascal Enjolas/Olivier Vitrine
Henning Solberg: Matthew Wilson/Stuart Loudon
Robert Kubica: Simone Campedelli/Michele Ferara
Martin Prokop: Stefan Vojtech/Michal Ernst
Armin Kremer: Raimund Baumschlager/Walter Illmer

Sorry for my ignorance, but until last year only WRC crews were allowed gravel crew, right?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hearing the streaming feels like deja vu.

They've ruined what should've been a great watch - driver interviews and WRC cars blasting around the GP circuit... :rolleyes:

[GigiGalliNo1]

Radio is relaying the LIVE TV broadcast....

Horribly put together!

[dominik_r]

In Low quality mode audio sync seems to be OK now.. except the quality :)

[wwbroe]

Very poor quality, jumping from here to there, with their massive budget you could expect a lot better. Hope live stage this evening will be a lot better, if not it is not even worth watching.....:o

[makinen_fan]

In Low quality mode audio sync seems to be OK now.. except the quality :)

well spotted, thanks

[denkimi]

Marvelous Mr drive!

This is perfect!

The "secret" is hidden at 0:06 (six) seconds.
Here You can see:
Top left: Still caught in understeer, driving around the corner.
Top right: Pointed in the direction of wanted travel, ready to start straight acceleration.
Bottom left: Caught in massive understeer/overshoot
Bottom right: Pointed in the right direction, but farther down the road (already behind), and with a lot of sideways forces acting on the car forcing it towards us.
you cant see that on the picture. evans could just as well take a wide circuit-style line and carry more speed through the corner.

[dimviii]

http://www.zougla.gr/image.ashx?fid=1601303

[GallardoGT]

They've ruined what should've been a great watch - driver interviews and WRC cars blasting around the GP circuit... :rolleyes:
They can compensate to give us some free extra streams this weekend. Seems reasonable imo.

[GallardoGT]

Now afer refreshing for me at 360p on youtube it's ok.

[Negaiss]

I think I saw citroen ds3 R5 with wrc.com logo and color sheme on Live stream. Maybe it some kind of replica - road car with wrc styling. If yes, I want one too.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

They must be Hyundai fans - the only time the sound & video are in sync is when Neuville is running... ;)

[noel157]

I gave up, life is too short.

[KKS]

Delecour prepare phone number of his friends - hotel owners? :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Idris Elba’s starring role at WRC launch ...

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/january-2015/idris-elba-ride/page/2094--12-12-.html

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Sebastien Ogier: Revised WRC rules throw 2015 battle open...

Defending World Rally champion Sebastien Ogier says the 2015 rule changes mean the title battle will not take a clear shape until the final third of the season.

The revised WRC running order regulation this year mean the championship leader will be first onto the stages on the first two days of each rally, potentially encountering the worst road conditions as a result.

Ogier believes that will handicap whoever holds the points lead and prevent any single driver from pulling away in the championship.

"It will be quite difficult if you make a good start in the championship, because then you will be penalised [by running first on the road] and playing catch-up," said the Volkswagen driver.

"But, in the end, it must still be the best driver in the good car winning the championship.

"But it could be that the championship must be played more in the last third of the season, and I am sure this rule will cost me some victories this season."

Hyundai driver Thierry Neuville says the rule change could alter the way some drivers view the opening two rounds of the series in Monte Carlo and Sweden.

"Maybe you can take more of the gamble on these rallies," said the Belgian. "OK, always we push, but maybe you can push even harder and take more risks to try take a big advantage, because you know that if you fail and you don't score so many points then actually you will be in the better position - further down the road - when we get to Mexico."

Ogier agreed with Neuville's point.

"I cannot say that I will not try to win the first two rallies just to avoid opening the road in Mexico, that will never happen," he said.

"But definitely, I will agree that this strategy can happen.

"The first part of the season is not as important as in the past.

"If you start too well in the championship and you are in front then you will be penalised for a lot of rallies and we would then have a harder life during the second half of the season.

"Still, you have to not let the other drivers pull away too much. But, for me, the first third of the year is less important than it was in the past."

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loeb is just deciding on the right tyre choice for tonight !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B79xcv1CEAI1fzV.jpg:large

[Rallyper]

Loeb is just deciding on the right tyre choice for tonight !

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B79xcv1CEAI1fzV.jpg:large

What about the left tyre? :) :)

[EstWRC]

pictures of the opening ceremony http://sport.delfi.ee/news/auto/f1/fotod-ott-tanak-jagas-monte-carlo-ralli-avatseremoonial-lava-david-coulthardiga?id=70623117

scroll down a little

[Mariusz]

What about the left tyre? :) :)
They will take the right ones only.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Maybe Loeb should drive a Porsche here next year... ;)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B79jR0CCAAArykp.jpg:large

[EstWRC]

M-Sport World Rally Team driver Ott Tänak talks about recce, safety crews and promotion as the 2015 FIA World Rally Championship kicks off at Rallye Monte Carlo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SteYOI3yn4I&feature=youtu.be

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Latvala with Jacky Ickx today... :cool:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B79-E2dCIAA7qws.png:large

[stefanvv]

What about the left tyre? :) :)

Reasonable question actually. They might not match at the end...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Plenty of wet tarmac tyres in the SP...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B79_CpHCIAEYhaH.jpg:large

[tommeke_B]

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t31.0-8/10911323_10152771553738952_2966744802938845628_o.j pg

Apart from the rear spoiler just another angle of photo I think... ;)

[wwbroe]

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/156066_839318006128075_5495561346480596386_n.jpg?o h=4d9fe51b8fe2874308a4e6c2a1131c4a&oe=552EB57F

[Quad]

ss1 conditions looks like perfect scenario for tire disaster :D
part of wet tarmac, part of ice , part of full snow

[pucky54]

Plenty of wet tarmac tyres in the SP...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B79_CpHCIAEYhaH.jpg:large

Those are snow tires! There are no wet tarmac tires.

[Ounin]

Not many sponsors for Ilka Minor ...

[Lundefaret]

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t31.0-8/10911323_10152771553738952_2966744802938845628_o.j pg

Apart from the rear spoiler just another angle of photo I think... ;)

Last years car (Mikkelsen) vs this years car (Ogier)?

Mikkelsen more often than not have testing work to do during rallies. In a earlier spec car he performs different kind off component testing etc during rallies.

[dimviii]

Apart from the rear spoiler just another angle of photo I think... ;)

they announced that they changed the edge of the front wings.Maybe they have change some more.

http://www.monalbum.fr/Photo-4UI7HSBN-D.jpg
http://www.monalbum.fr/Photo-POOKGLOL-D.jpg

more
http://www.remsphotography.com/#!mc2015---shakedown/cfd9

[A FONDO]

ss1 conditions looks like perfect scenario for tire disaster :D
part of wet tarmac, part of ice , part of full snow

Is the snow not melted/swept already by spectators and gravel crews?

[dimviii]

Last years car (Mikkelsen) vs this years car (Ogier)?
.

photos are from yesterday from both polos

[dupanton]

photos are from yesterday from both polos

Yes but Mikkelsen is driving last years Polo.

[dupanton]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7-I5PrCMAAPxh4.jpg

This should be SS1, very icy

[KKS]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7-I5PrCMAAPxh4.jpg

This should be SS1, very icy
not everywhere
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7-I5PfCIAA0KiQ.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7-I5UKCcAAW8Mi.jpghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7-I5UjCIAA4GRD.jpg

[dimviii]

Yes but Mikkelsen is driving last years Polo.

yeap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONOFhhJNNvc

[makinen_fan]

more
http://www.remsphotography.com/#!mc2015---shakedown/cfd9

at last something else apart from the two hairpins... I like this one
http://static.wixstatic.com/media/53a6b8_2a05b70c1d0442aba549943f4589ac5c.jpg_srz_p_ 1439_634_75_22_0.50_1.20_0.00_jpg_srz

[KKS]

In general pic's from SS1 as bluuford expected 2 days ago :)
snow at high, icy at middle and some dry patch at lower altitude :)

[bluuford]

There was so much snow yestrday that when they plought it, it stays on the sides, so, first cars might drag more snow on the road and make it more difficult for the followers. tarmac was exposed only on the sunlight and now it should be full ice where it was still wet. Temperature dropped below zero an hour ago almost everywhere. So, it might be like ice-rink between small snowalls. Moreover, there was pretty big traffic due to the rally and then a lot of snow will be compacted like you can see on the photo. This ice do not dssapea in one day, without winbd and just +3 degrees. So, tyres with studs should be the only correct solution.

[KKS]

at SS2 same situation?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B77ykHmIUAAvsqk.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B78fxBoCUAAiuyz.jpg

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing 10 ώρεςΠριν από 10 ώρες Gap, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur
#WRC Who's who? Red: @SebastienLoeb, white: @krismeeke, black: @MadsOstberg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B78RPKWIcAECGbZ.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B78ROSZIAAAqUfC.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B78RPPrIYAAs-OS.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Plenty of wet tarmac tyres in the SP...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B79_CpHCIAEYhaH.jpg:large


Those are snow tires! There are no wet tarmac tires.

Arent the snow tyres only those on the left.. narrow with studs ?

[mrakili]

Hi guys :) will there be any other live stream for SS 1 other than on wrc+?

Thanks for info.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B78LF2MIAAAsXi1.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B77vS6AIgAAuzNN.jpg

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing 13 λεπτάΠριν από 13 λεπτά
#WRC The crews leave Monaco... Next stop Puget-Theniers, Tyre fitting zone 19:50.

[stefanvv]

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/proxy/WZVkbrbMAL-k40lCGJXyzVK57WbixNSgKeoc45YoeFas4Cw_GL0kWoyfgwr24 Lr1HTq70NWlEGH00bkgNB0xATEe6Bt68g=w346-h245-p

[KKS]

Hi guys :) will there be any other live stream for SS 1 other than on wrc+?

Thanks for info.
On BT Sport 1 should be live.
http://torrent-tv.ru/torrent-online.php?translation=10634
or google BT sport 1 live

[N.O.T]

can you please posting every photo you find online ??? it doesn't add to anything just fills pages for no reason.... just stick to those that provide some info.

[dimviii]

can you please posting every photo you find online ??? it doesn't add to anything just fills pages for no reason.... just stick to those that provide some info.

cant post all,sorry

[Negaiss]

WRC+ is OK deal! Live stages is OK and everything else also! Just leave those 2,3 bears at the shop tonight and subscribe. No more problems with hard to find not working streams.

[KKS]

N.O.T. - take some pills

[N.O.T]

N.O.T. - take some pills

done that... did not work...

[danon]

As always nagging like an old maid.

[stefanvv]

Hi guys :) will there be any other live stream for SS 1 other than on wrc+?

Thanks for info.

You can try this later - http://cricfree.sx/watch/live/fia-world-rally-championship-live-streaming

[Sukhoi]

Silent observer reporting in, just wanted all of You to know before we start off season again...

That I love to read discussions and insights posted on this forum, I love all of the pictures, links and movies You guys are posting. And i can't really imagine following WRC without it. Keep up the good work ! I am quite certain there are more people like me sneaking up in here..

Thanks alot.. Cheers

[KKS]

Becs Williams ‏@Becsywecsy (https://twitter.com/Becsywecsy) 3m3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Becsywecsy/status/558333060484456449)
Classic Loeb commenting that he was glad that Daniel still fitted in the seat!

:D

[bluuford]

at SS2 same situation?

I guess there is more snow and ice, as it was even more affected by snowfall and it is running in slightly higher elevation

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Pity the coverage of the run around Monaco was so poor this afternoon. Imagine seeing and hearing the WRC boys blasting through the tunnel...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7-aEbUIcAAKKx-.png

[dupanton]

Got a review by a weathercrew:

SS1 Snow in the beginning, then better and the final 12km with lots of ice patches.
SS2 is better, some ice in the middle section.

[stefanvv]

Becs Williams ‏@Becsywecsy (https://twitter.com/Becsywecsy) 3m3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/Becsywecsy/status/558333060484456449)
Classic Loeb commenting that he was glad that Daniel still fitted in the seat!

:D

He already must know the right tyres to have more pressure:D

[A FONDO]

Silent observer reporting in, just wanted all of You to know before we start off season again...

That I love to read discussions and insights posted on this forum, I love all of the pictures, links and movies You guys are posting. And i can't really imagine following WRC without it. Keep up the good work ! I am quite certain there are more people like me sneaking up in here..

Thanks alot.. Cheers
That reminds me it turns three years since I found this forum... remember the Monte with the GO SLOW (marketing) mocking bomb :D :D

It is mainly this forum that still keeps my general interest in WRC, otherwise I would have watched random videoclips once a month and learnt results after quick read in headlines.

[er88]

Is there any word on the tyre choices yet lads?

[N.O.T]

20 minutes to go... are you ready my dogs (and some kittens maybe...) of war ??

[miniwintz]

1 beer that loeb wins at least one of the two stages

[wwbroe]

Live report has started on WRC+:D

[Googol]

Is there any word on the tyre choices yet lads?

I think only the first ones have just left the tyres fitting zone.

[dimviii]

20 minutes to go... are you ready my dogs (and some kittens maybe...) of war ??

any bets are welcome...

[KKS]

winter tyre with studs will be main at this night loop?

[dimviii]

Is there any word on the tyre choices yet lads?

michelin motorsport @ twitter havent announce something.Maybe not all cars left tyre zone?

[N.O.T]

any bets are welcome...

If the conditions are icy Loeb will win the first stage easily...because it will be quite clear for him after 13 WRC cars.... but no bet.

[KKS]

Rally didn't started yet but citroen site already down :D

[noel157]

Nothing live about the WRC broadcast. HURRY up and show us some stage!

[stefanvv]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7-Pnl-IUAAp6iV.jpg

[dimviii]

. but no bet.

just one beer..

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTP3fV2dTkLpD9yCRLs6TGmIweIuPUc1 OCucD01EzdBwjdvy5we

[dimviii]

this works for me(Greece)
http://www.vipleague.me/motorsports/278752/1/rallye-monte-carlo-live-stream-online.html

[N.O.T]

no bet... too may factors to take into account when it comes to Loebs return... so no bet... i do not like losing.

[KKS]

VW boys - 4 studded tyres
Ostberg - 4 studded +2SS

[A FONDO]

If the conditions are icy Loeb will win the first stage easily...because it will be quite clear for him after 13 WRC cars.... but no bet.

Probably but also should be kept in mind what guys he drives after. One will crash, other will be slow, third will ditch & escape just in front of him... Whatever I am drinking cheap bourbon left from New Year's 466

[stefanvv]

VW boys - 4 studded tyres

except Ogier - crossover with wss

[EightGear]

Ogier wearing glasses, on the start line now. Here we go!!

[N.O.T]

So tomorrow they run in reverse or the was they finish today ?

[stefanvv]

and here we go

[noel157]

Championship positions day 1 and 2, reverse day 3.

[N.O.T]

Championship positions day 1 and 2, reverse day 3.

huge disadvtange for ogier then...

[Negaiss]

from live onboards latvala looks a lot faster than Ogier

[HaCo]

Happy with my one month free Wrc+! Live rallying is awesome!!! :D :D :D

[car]

Reports that Ogier may have front tyres on the wrong side - from BT sport live T.V.

[stefanvv]

Ogier might not have chosen right tyres

[Sulland]

Will there be a massacre on Ss1 if its ice, lets hope not!!

[N.O.T]

Latvala slower 2.6 on split 1...

[RAS007]

Anyone watching WRC+? Pretty good so far…...

[HaCo]

Neuville never finished this rally, wonder if he ever finished the first day. Fingers crossed for him.

[Negaiss]

Anyone watching WRC+? Pretty good so far…...

Yes! It very good for now!

[makinen_fan]

is citroen web site any faster with splits? i cannot get it to open

[stefanvv]

Anyone watching WRC+? Pretty good so far…...

Yep, it's a beauty, especially heli shots

[KKS]

Rally Finland ‏@RallyFinland (https://twitter.com/RallyFinland) 3m3 minutes ago (https://twitter.com/RallyFinland/status/558345307101364224) Hirvonens info about tyres at use: all have 4 studded on, they have packed with them 1-2 snow or studded for SS2

[Rallyper]

Anyone watching WRC+? Pretty good so far…...

My live stage dosn´t work. (have free for one month) Only live map works.

[dimviii]

Meeke studed all round

[dimviii]

is citroen web site any faster with splits? i cannot get it to open

no its down for me

[hari]

Anyone watching WRC+? Pretty good so far…...

Very nice and spectacular!

[HaCo]

Here it works very well as well. From time to time need to refresh because of error.

[KKS]

is citroen web site any faster with splits? i cannot get it to open
they dead

[dimviii]

in case somebody missed it
http://www.vipleague.me/motorsports/278752/1/rallye-monte-carlo-live-stream-online.html

[HaCo]

Looking forward to Loebs splits!

[EightGear]

Really enjoying this. Great to see the opening of the season live, in the dark, in the snow.

[RAS007]

My live stage dosn´t work. (have free for one month) Only live map works.

That s a shame, it has been great so far, mixture of in-car, camera on car front and heli-shots….

[dimviii]

heli shots and incar are magic!! best sport by far!!!

[HaCo]

Really enjoying this. Great to see the opening of the season live, in the dark, in the snow.

Yeah, damn awesome!

[noel157]

Coverage excellent so far.

[HaCo]

Meeke quickest, he needs to stay on the road!!

[dimviii]

Meeke quickest so far

[noel157]

Come on Kris.

[Quad]

Neuville may be in trouble

[noel157]

Neuville may be in trouble

Mech or?

[er88]

Gooo Meeeke

Has Neuville bottled it again?!

[stefanvv]

Meeke is crazy

[makinen_fan]

Got them to work, but not better than wrc
http://www.citroenracing.com/live-results/?id=63622&typf=split&idEpr=SS1

[HaCo]

No splits for the other drivers... :D :D

[Quad]

Prokop fasest at 1st split

[stefanvv]

Prokop:D

[noel157]

Timing gone to the dogs? Prokop fastest on 1st split?

[HaCo]

Latvala not fast enough.

[rage82]

Prokop is fastest on 1+st split maybe Pirelli's are working really well

[N.O.T]

Timing gone to the dogs? Prokop fastest on 1st split?

no... it is just the conditions... last year Kubica won the first stage.... and Ogier was 1.30 mins down after day 1...

[Miika]

"Changing grip levels". I thought that was what you call rallying.

[noel157]

no... it is just the conditions... last year Kubica won the first stage.... and Ogier was 1.30 mins down after day 1...

Yep, I remember, just not used to seeing Martin's name at the top.

[N.O.T]

"Changing grip levels". I thought that was what you call rallying.

no... thats what you call loterry...

[HaCo]

Prokop is fastest on 1+st split maybe Pirelli's are working really well

Could be indeed.

[noel157]

Meeke still on it.

[makinen_fan]

Sordo looses 30s in 1st split

[Quad]

Sordo in trouble
+30 on 1st

[HaCo]

Very good time by Ostberg!

[dimviii]

bad 1st split for Sordo +30 sec

[EightGear]

Not bad by Mads

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Pirellis doing the business !!

[stefanvv]

The tyres story from Janner looks similar, Pirellis are just working better on snow

[N.O.T]

Sordo problems...

[HaCo]

Sordo problems...

Oh no :(

[HaCo]

Robert also on Pirelli!

Bouffier now fastest!

[stefanvv]

wow, great by Neuville

[Quad]

Prokop lost a lot on 2nd split

[HaCo]

Great time by Thierry!


Go Loeb!!!! :)

[noel157]

No stage end interviews on TV?

[dimviii]

The tyres story from Janner looks similar, Pirellis are just working better on snow

be patient and NOT make conclusions so fast.

[KKS]

too slow from Meeke at the end

[N.O.T]

Tanak now... the road clears...

[HaCo]

Awesome time by Meeke!

Hope someone beets Ogier.