Rallye Monte Carlo 2015

[Francis44]

A quick look at both WTCC and WRC calendars and Loeb is free of WTCC duties on almost all rallys except 2 or three, so we might see him more than once this year.

[A FONDO]

Latvala, Meeke, Mikkelsen - very poor performance. Ogi can take wrong tyres for a whole day and still beat them. Hopefully the quitter showed up to add a litle spice.

[EstWRC]

https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s526x296/10171920_10153097631789973_9221256362929835306_n.j pg?oh=5e210b9037755e884cea036655ca4948&oe=55618A88

[N.O.T]

show your face

https://www.facebook.com/grigoris.tsolkas/photos_all

but no sex on first date...

[KKS]

Protasov hit trouble too at lst split :(

[tommeke_B]

A quick look at both WTCC and WRC calendars and Loeb is free of WTCC duties on almost all rallys except 2 or three, so we might see him more than once this year.
Time enough to speculate after the event...

[noel157]

Irish young gun Mc Kenna set a good time on ss1 for his debut on the world scene.

Did very well on SS1, 26th in GC at present and top R3T, great going so far.

[dimviii]

and some people claim he had no character... they confuse "character" with "being a clown", but i forgive them.

watch the character.

Citroën Racing ‏@CitroenRacing
#WRC SS2 @SebastienLoeb 14:14.7 "It was OK. Very dirty with gravel and mud in every corner. A good run."

SS2 Ogier "I have done a wrong tyre choice on the first stage, the snow tyre was the good choice in the first stage, not this stage.


Maestro no excuses.

No1 in my heart because of this.Real man even when he looses 17,6 seconds in a stage.

[stefanvv]

he drove tarmac stages like gravel one. See SD videos. At every corner - wide sliding.

As a circuit driver he must learn how to driver on gravel, he is still learning even on the asphalt Rallies, we should encourage him.....

[Negaiss]

Little chance for Loeb to stay in front. Stages will be very wet due to melting snow, so many cars before Loeb will destroy tarmac for him.
But his performace so far is the best. There was no better result possible after these 2 stages!

[rallyfun]

https://www.facebook.com/grigoris.tsolkas/photos_all

but no sex on first date...

you mistaken forums... I'm normal

[dimviii]

. Hopefully the quitter showed up to add a litle spice.

+1
tomorrow he will ad a little more spice.Be patience.

[N.O.T]

you mistaken forums... I'm normal

Damn !!!!

[EstWRC]

Big advantage for the first ones on SS2. Great performances by Loeb and Tänak, Tänak because he has so little experience and 4th overall just 2 sec behind Latvala. Evans good too on second stage.

[Ucci]

did you expect something different ? he is too ugly for this sport...

Keep such comments for yourself...

[KKS]

As a circuit driver he must learn how to driver on gravel, he is still learning even on the asphalt Rallies, we should encourage him.....
That was a problem. circuit driver feels better on gravel stages, and drive tarmac at same way.

[stefanvv]

SS2: Kubica spins
He gets his Fiesta RS to the finish control with the loss of around four minutes. "We spun, and when we were in reverse we lost the lights and the alternator I think. First I lost all lights then the car was switching on and off. We managed to reset it and get going - which is the main thing - but we lost a lot of time."

I hope M-Sport has nothing to do with this sabotage.....

[PLuto]

Internet is broken... :)

eWRC - Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: Too many connections in /www/sites/2/site29202/public_html/_base.php on line 5
No connection to database!

No, everything is working correctly ;) - http://rally-base.com/2015/rallye-monte-carlo-2015

[Rally Talent]

Loeb: "...I passed two cars in there - I'm not sure who they were." LEGEND!!!

[N.O.T]

SS2: Kubica spins
He gets his Fiesta RS to the finish control with the loss of around four minutes. "We spun, and when we were in reverse we lost the lights and the alternator I think. First I lost all lights then the car was switching on and off. We managed to reset it and get going - which is the main thing - but we lost a lot of time."

I hope M-Sport has nothing to do with this.....

he is not with m-sport anymore...

[N.O.T]

Loeb: "...I passed two cars in there - I'm not sure who they were." LEGEND!!!

LOL... exactly... what are these dogs doing in my back yard... ?????

[KKS]

Little chance for Loeb to stay in front. Stages will be very wet due to melting snow, so many cars before Loeb will destroy tarmac for him.
But his performace so far is the best. There was no better result possible after these 2 stages!
Tomorrow Loeb starts first.
reversed on Sat and Sun.

[drive]

To much talk Loeb v Loeb - but its Ok, first rally after long wait.... But 13s in Monte its nothing, so lets wait for a real fight tomorrow... Todays stories for me: hyunday down over 1 min.... Tanak doing well... Guys overhere talking nonsence after FIRST DAY of Monte - priceless :) just kidding ;)

[stefanvv]

he is not with m-sport anymore...

Of course, still they build his car, aren't they?

[nafpaktos]

why such bad time for camilli to stage 1?serderidis out!
photos from bryan and jourdain

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[N.O.T]

Of course, still they build his car, aren't they?

no.. he bought the cars from them.. A styke and his mechanics are on them...

[N.O.T]

why such bad time for camilli to stage 1?serderidis out!

camili is the head tester for toyota thats why... LOL

[stefanvv]

Tomorrow Loeb starts first.

Nope, he doesn't

[N.O.T]

To much talk Loeb v Loeb - but its Ok, first rally after long wait.... But 13s in Monte its nothing, so lets wait for a real fight tomorrow... Todays stories for me: hyunday down over 1 min.... Tanak doing well... Guys overhere talking nonsence after FIRST DAY of Monte - priceless :) just kidding ;)

I do not think there is a sane person that thinks Loeb has a chance with Ogier on equal conditions....

[makinen_fan]

Tomorrow Loeb starts first.
reversed on Sat and Sun.

start order changes only on Sunday

[EightGear]

start order changes only on Sunday
Exactly, start order tomorrow is the same as today.

[KKS]

oops

[danon]

Day one - mission accomplished!!!

https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/275x283q90/r/208/7zvx.jpg

[makinen_fan]

Bouffier. Is it possible to restart tomorrow, or Saturday?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7_BasXCMAETbi8.jpg

[stefanvv]

Bouffier. Is it possible to restart tomorrow, or Saturday?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7_BasXCMAETbi8.jpg

wrc.com was writing he is moving slowly through the stage, ooooooookkkk........

[PLuto]

Bouffier. Is it possible to restart tomorrow, or Saturday?

I dont think so :(

[nafpaktos]

edit

[wwbroe]

Great performance by Delecour on first stage, being 1min23 faster as Dumas and even more on Duez. Must be a hell of a job running a Porsche on these conditions.

[wwbroe]

Camilli's time on second satge is much better, what happened to him on first one?

[makinen_fan]

I dont think so :(

i meant according to the regulations, not based on the car damage! damage looks quite big to be repaired for tomorrow morning

[stefanvv]

Great performance by Delecour on first stage, being 1min23 faster as Dumas and even more on Duez. Must be a hell of a job running a Porsche on these conditions.

Where I can see this?

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7_Dy_wCMAEMOjS.jpg

[stefanvv]

i meant according to the regulations, not based on the car damage!

The reagulations allow it I think for retirements until tomorrow evening

[nafpaktos]

lefebvre

SS2 : temporarily 4th time.
"We should have change our tyres but we didn't have time enough : we had to repair the damages after our small mistake in SS1. We're leading WRC2 after this first day and that's a good thing."

[dimviii]

Camilli's time on second satge is much better, what happened to him on first one?

Camilli had a flat tyre at ss1

[makinen_fan]

what happened to Breen in SS1? lost more than 1min

[pucky54]

what happened to Breen in SS1? lost more than 1min

was off the road twice!

[stefanvv]

no.. he bought the cars from them.. A styke and his mechanics are on them...

Sure, the construction is on M-Sport though, but I was little bit ironic anyway;)

[stefanvv]

Where I can see this?

Ok found it. On the 2nd Dumas is much quicker, just 9.7s down, kind of expected considering the conditions on 1st stage.

[nafpaktos]

was off the road twice!

He continues his janner rally performance!!!

[dimviii]

vw answers at trolling? lol

Fabio Sala ‏@FabioSala67
@VolkswagenRally @SebastienLoeb @SebOgier not #GameOn but #GameOver :-)

VolkswagenMotorsport ‏@VolkswagenRally
#GetReal :-) @FabioSala67 @SebastienLoeb @SebOgier

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally
Kubica on road section back to Gap pulled over by police with no lights - electrical problems

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7_JMkcIUAE5D-2.jpg

[noel157]

Kubica pulled by the feds on way back to PF. Lighting issues.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7_JMkcIUAE5D-2.jpg

Must be an echo in here.... beaten by DV.

[bluuford]

I can see that Kubica is stopped just before highway... very far behind others. seems like over for him for today.

Tomorrow stages are held in slightly more north and higher elevations. However, last snowfall was not so strong there. But, due to higher elevation, the temperature should be below zero on most parts of the stages. So, new day, new conditions again.

Now I know why Loeb was so fast on SS1. Kubica cut through all the snow-piles and Loeb had much more straight road... ;-) Kubica-s car just didnt survied it..

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7_FRtLIQAEZILk.jpg

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally 2 λεπτάΠριν από 2 λεπτά
Kubica still at side of road, working on electrical problem, doesn't look good.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7_L7NMCIAAoaSE.jpg

[KKS]

They can escorted Kubica to service park?

[wrc1600]

They can escorted Kubica to service park?

French police? don't think so

[noel157]

In the old days the cops would've helped him, lights and sirens to Parc Ferme. No more.

[PLuto]

If you are interested, I have added to SS 1 also some quotes of non-WRC drivers - http://rally-base.com/2015/rallye-monte-carlo-2015/?ssId=2763

[makinen_fan]

If he retires and continuous tomorrow with Rally2, how much penalty will that be?

[noel157]

10 minutes as on way to PF.

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally
Not looking good for Kubica, seems to have given up trying to get going again - looks like super rally

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7_NNu3IAAAx6zz.jpg

[marcosg]

If you are interested, I have added to SS 1 also some quotes of non-WRC drivers - http://rally-base.com/2015/rallye-monte-carlo-2015/?ssId=2763

nice ;) thnx

[giu canbera]

Damn you loeb
you damn good driver!

[makinen_fan]

WRC ‏@OfficialWRC 2m2 minutes ago
End of the road for Robert Kubica for today, electrical problems for the Polish driver.

[noel157]

Daniel McKenna through SS2 behind Quintin, still leads RC3 by 10 secs.

[N.O.T]

so what is the condition of tomorrows stages ?

[noel157]

so what is the condition of tomorrows stages ?

Variable.

[Kielder]

Like a Rolling Stone...

http://i57.tinypic.com/312bkeh.jpg

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/p180x540/10942436_10206170173363006_7069101004181286469_n.j pg?oh=1e7242fd833a47a35652301dbe1f0787&oe=5564860F&__gda__=1432596404_0d439edf41331fa22b7459282a11edc 2

[N.O.T]

Variable.

that doesn't help much, need to be more specific.... if there is enough ice and snow then we might have a fight until Ogier gets the lead if not he will probably be in the lead after 1-2 stages.

[dimviii]

depents on right/wrong tyre choices also.Till evening just 2 stages were with part of them with snow.
If no snow for sure Ogier has advantage with clear road.

[dimviii]

Sections of full snow remain on high altitude stages - especially Stage 12 from Sisteron and Stage 14 which features the famous 1600m Col de Turini. Snow is also reported on tonight's opening stage from Norante.

“When you go high the snow never really clears,” explained VW team manager Sven Smeets. “Otherwise there are still some parts where there is snow and ice. On some roads they’ve put down salt, but depending on the amount they’ve put down it can still freeze overnight.”

Weather forecasts predict more inconsistent conditions over the next few days. “There’s not too much snow expected this weekend, but we always have a line in our forecast that reads ‘things can change,’” added Smeets.

“Last year, like many teams we were a little surprised by the snow that fell on the first stages. We will have to see what happens, and we can only really forecast about six hours ahead, but I think conditions will be quite similar to last year. There is not a massive amount of snow, and Turini is not a metre deep - it wasn’t last year either - but we had really wintry conditions during the rally itself."

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/january-2015/monte-weather/page/2092--12-12-.html

[N.O.T]

that is for saturday... todays stages are the ones that will decide most postitions i think.

[N.O.T]

And to all doubters....

The prophet Loeb has returned to teach his children the way of Nose End First.

So no nose end first on stage 2 ??

LOL...

[nafpaktos]

Hahahahaha epic, i am really bored with this nose end first things all the time.one question ,i have read a lot of things about tyre choices between two sebs.in the radio i think i heard for the first stage they had same tyres,but some said they had different choices.can somebody tell me for sure what happened.i think we should open a thread for tyres for this rally, monitoring and recording tyres of the drivers for each stage.i think this will help us a lot.moderators what do you say?forumers do you agree with this proposal?

[N.O.T]

Ogier said he had the wrong choice for the first stage and the correct for the second... so he had different tyres from Loeb.

ss1

Ogier: Almost full ice everywhere. Quite little grip, but we try to start very carefully, not so much risk for us in this one. Not an easy one to start the rally. No doubt that you need studs.

ss2 Loeb: It was ok, but a lot of gravel everywhere on the corner, gravel and mud everywhere so it was difficult. I had a good tyre choice for the first stage but it wasn't the best for the second. I passed two cars in there - I'm not sure who they were.

Ogier: I am happy to be at the finish, the stage was difficult and I was surprised about the time of the first stage. I am first on the road and it is very difficult to drive like this. I have done a wrong tyre choice on the first stage, the snow tyre was the good choice in the first stage, not this stage.

a thread just for tyres is useless...

[PLuto]

Quite nice list of penalties - http://rally-base.com/2015/rallye-monte-carlo-2015/penalty/

[makinen_fan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7_n6KYIAAEJMp6.jpg

[GigiGalliNo1]

https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t31.0-8/10911323_10152771553738952_2966744802938845628_o.j pg

Apart from the rear spoiler just another angle of photo I think... ;)

Roof air intake is smaller too

[Lundefaret]

So no nose end first on stage 2 ??

LOL...

Yes, quit a bit actually ;)
But You are of the understanding that The Rally Monte Carlo is decided by tire choices and starting orders alone, and could just as well be decided on a computer. I am not.
There where a lot of people on this forum that had written off both Loeb and Citroën, but rallying is different, and thankfully still very driver dependent - thats why I love the sport.

Because the difference in starting order Ogier and Loeb will have two different tasks during most of this rally, the difference decided by the changes in condition as the cars go by. But the difficulties will be at a maximum. Comparing the two of them will therefore be difficult, but we could say that both of them is off to good starts.

But the fact that Loeb could win 9 consecutive championships whit out more drivers picking up on his way of driving is for me mind boggling, and thats why I keep pestering on about Nose End First.
In other sports, if one athlete came in with a new technique and beat everybody else, people would start copying and improving, but not in rallying - and very seldom in motorsports.

Its only in Moto GP where I have witnessed top riders discussing how they change their riding styles after the best rider, and try to improve on that. Now its Marc Marquez in the front, and the legend Rossi is open about adjusting his riding style to "copy" Marquez. And You know what, its all about Nose End First in Moto GP too.

But motorsport is off course very seldom talent driven. Its driven by money. So its very seldom that talents get the backing to reach all the way to the top. Loeb did, Ogier did, even Walter Röhrl did, and there You have three drivers that could win the Monte Carlo, and also beat circuit racers on their home turf.
Motorsport is also very seldom trained in a professional manner. In other, cheaper sports, the elements are taken apart and practiced one by one, and often one practices completely different sports, movements etc, to improve certain parts, this is very rare in motorsport.

The concieved "truth" in motorsport is that You have to start gokarting at the age of 7 months, and drive karts all day every day until You move up to the formula or class You are going to compete in. Even in rallying this is believed to be the right way. But the best drivers we have had, have not done this at all, and still people believe this gokart/youth-truth.
For me, the part of Ogier and Loeb and Röhrl is important, because it shows that money is not the only factor, and it shows that motorsport - or driving technique - can be trained and exercised, and it need not cost a fortune. This should inspire.

But I will tell You that it is very difficult to not spread the message when You have seen the light. Because being aware of the aspects of driving technique, improves the spectating by a huge margin, and I want others to experience that as well - even You N.O.T. But Nose End First being knowledge based, maybe its to much of a struggle for You, and then its easier to shoot the messenger than actually bothering to read the message ;)

[dimviii]

Ogier said he had the wrong choice for the first stage and the correct for the second... so he had different tyres from Loeb.

ss1

Ogier: Almost full ice everywhere. Quite little grip, but we try to start very carefully, not so much risk for us in this one. Not an easy one to start the rally. No doubt that you need studs.

ss2 Loeb: It was ok, but a lot of gravel everywhere on the corner, gravel and mud everywhere so it was difficult. I had a good tyre choice for the first stage but it wasn't the best for the second. I passed two cars in there - I'm not sure who they were.

Ogier: I am happy to be at the finish, the stage was difficult and I was surprised about the time of the first stage. I am first on the road and it is very difficult to drive like this. I have done a wrong tyre choice on the first stage, the snow tyre was the good choice in the first stage, not this stage.

a thread just for tyres is useless...

i am too little confused.Something is not right

MICHELIN Motorsport ‏@michelin_sport 2 ώρεςΠριν από 2 ώρες Προβολή μετάφρασης
#tyres information: 2/2
Meeke: 4 studded + 2 snow
Neuville: 4 studded + 1 snow
Sordo: 4 studded + 2 snow
Ogier: 5 studded

MICHELIN Motorsport ‏@michelin_sport 2 ώρεςΠριν από 2 ώρες Προβολή μετάφρασης
#Tyres information: 1/2
Loeb/Bouffier: 5 studded
Latvala/Mikkelsen/Solberg: 4 studded + 2 snow
Ostberg/M-Sport: 4 studded + 2 SS4

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9JjftTaMWg

[dimviii]

Bouffier crash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k5HXqZZnXQ

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AwwG1TOfpw

[dimviii]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhsa0lOY_B8

[Miika]

Bouffier crash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k5HXqZZnXQ

A lesson of nose end first into the ravine.

[Iron]

A first pic of Rally Monte Carlo : Ogier by night ;)

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[Iron]

A first pic of Rally Monte Carlo : Ogier by night ;)

http://nsa34.casimages.com/img/2015/01/23/150123075334659616.jpg (http://www.casimages.com/i/150123075334659616.jpg)

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[makinen_fan]

So Chardonnet and Kubica restarted and running first, Seb O will not have a perfectly clean road.
Any news on stage conditions?

[trifonvl]

start list for today
http://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/START-LIST-FOR-SECTION-2-TC2D2.pdf

[makinen_fan]

MICHELIN Motorsport ‏@michelin_sport 27s28 seconds ago View translation
#tyres information:
Citroën/Neuville: 5 studded
M-Sport/Sordo/VW : 4 studded + 2 snow
Solberg: 6 studded
#wrc #RallyeMonteCarlo

[KKS]

Hahahahaha epic, i am really bored with this nose end first things all the time.one question ,i have read a lot of things about tyre choices between two sebs.in the radio i think i heard for the first stage they had same tyres,but some said they had different choices.can somebody tell me for sure what happened.i think we should open a thread for tyres for this rally, monitoring and recording tyres of the drivers for each stage.i think this will help us a lot.moderators what do you say?forumers do you agree with this proposal?

On SS1 icy conditions so everybody most at same. Maybe a bit more snow to end runners.
SS2 wet conditions and above zero temp, everybody cuts and road is more dirty after every car.
Tyre choise for Ogier and Loeb are same, 4 studds ( but no info what be in a boot)

[tommeke_B]

Both Bouffier and Serderidis (crashed in same place) not restarting because they arrived at parc fermé too late. Their cars were pulled out only at 3 O'Clock in the night! So regulations do allow Rally2, but it seems like the organizer can still decide a little...

[KKS]

Looks like at SS2 was dry conditions! well, at least where it was filmed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mhsa0lOY_B8 Delecour and Protasov was brilliant there. But not so on greek driver :)

[bluuford]

Seems that road maintenance has improved a lot in france and they have managed to almost clean all the mountain roads as well. But there is still the fact that there are two sno-piles on both sides of roads, it is melting a bit during the day and it freezes overnight. Ok, They are putting some extra salt on the road as well and that decreases the temperature where ythe ice is forming. For the morning, it looks like the temperature is even a bit less that melting temperature with extra salt, so pure tarmac pon the lower parts, black ice on the climbs, decend and shade and snow on the top.
So, Ss3, First part is running in the forest (5km) and it is climbing from 840m to 1220meters, then there is open section for two km, followed by one km section in the forrest and in the northern slope of the mountain, should be very tricky. Another open section 1.5km long, followeed by western expposed mountain side with forrest. Final km-s are partly in forest and partly in open filed. Final corners are in northern exposed forrest again. Should be very variable stage

[KKS]

start list for today
http://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/START-LIST-FOR-SECTION-2-TC2D2.pdf

thoose two on top make Ogier life "better" :D when road will be wet

[KKS]

Both Bouffier and Serderidis (crashed in same place) not restarting because they arrived at parc fermé too late. Their cars were pulled out only at 3 O'Clock in the night! So regulations do allow Rally2, but it seems like the organizer can still decide a little...
And "repair" zone was shorted from 4h to 2h15m after Day1

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2015/nma_img_0211.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2015/nma_img_0064.jpg
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2015/photos/rallye_monte_carlo_2015/nma_img_0406.jpg

http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=18216&fotograf=390

[KKS]

So, bluuford (http://www.motorsportforums.com/member.php?13319-bluuford), frontrunners have an advantage

[bluuford]

Ss4 is running in lower elevation, starting from around 1100 m decending to around 900m, but the it i run (most of the stage) in a very narrow valley with limited sunlight exposure. Final section was a little climb again but this stage in general has less forrest around it.

SS5 is the highest stage of the day. It is starting from aroiund 1100m and climbs accross 1550m. So, Snow and ice should be there definitely. Moreover. There is plenty of forrest as well. I hope they have enough studs left for this stage. Otherwise, there might be huge timeloss. I belive this will be the key stage of today.

[bluuford]

So, bluuford (http://www.motorsportforums.com/member.php?13319-bluuford), frontrunners have an advantage

I guess so. The character of the road looks like it has a lot of potential for cutting and bringing all kind of stuff on the road (snow, gravel etc.). Maybe there might be slight advantage on the last stage.

[arko5]

Ogier on the stage :)

[wwbroe]

Yeah, running third on the stage..

[wwbroe]

So, McKenna picked up a time penalty?

[dimviii]

is wrc radio ok?

[EstWRC]

Kubica already 11 sec faster than Chardo on opening split.

[hari]

is wrc radio ok?
working well

[wwbroe]

is wrc radio ok?

Working fine over here, glad that we have Colin at the stage end, at least i can understand him....

[wwbroe]

Ogier on a charge 25 sec faster as Chardonet on first split

[EstWRC]

Loeb gonna smash it again i think.

[wwbroe]

Almost 12 minutes to cover 15 km stage, quite slow pace isn't it?

[wwbroe]

Chardonet's car quite messy, so massive cutting?

[dimviii]

Almost 13 minutes to cover 15 km stage, quite slow pace isn't it?

yes its slow

[EstWRC]

Fog also after 2km Chardo said.

[jonkka]

Not terribly slow, a bit under 80 kph. For example yesterday's first, admittedly in darkness, was the same.

[dimviii]

cant listen rally radio damn

[wwbroe]

Ogier 20 sec faster as Robert

[kookie]

dimvii, radio works well today for me also..

[makinen_fan]

Ogier says it may clean for later runners...

[dimviii]

Not terribly slow, a bit under 80 kph. For example yesterday's first, admittedly in darkness, was the same.

Ogier is going to have maybe more than 90km/h

[wwbroe]

Ogier is saying that he might have made the wrong tyrechoice for this stage, let's see if it is true....

[dimviii]

Ogier says it may clean for later runners...

started moaning from 1st stage? Whatever position he has he moans.

[N.O.T]

Kubica reports 10ks of ice...

"All okay but very slippery. We didn't have full studs because our gravel crew said there was only 4km ice. It was more like 10km. And fog too. We took it cautiously." from wrc.com

[makinen_fan]

JML slower than Kubica by 7.7

[wwbroe]

Not a great time for JML

[jonkka]

Ogier is going to have maybe more than 90km/h

Yep, 89.25 kph to be precise. :D

[wwbroe]

Kubica reports 10s of ice...
I think he said 10 km of ice

[makinen_fan]

started moaning from 1st stage? Whatever position he has he moans.

also reported not the best tyre choice. maybe he had the 2 snow tyres on?

[KKS]

Ogier says it may clean for later runners...

yeah yeah yeah plus "Justice" all this we hear in past

[wwbroe]

Rather good time for Andreas, loosing only 7,6 sec to Ogier

[Rally Talent]

Not a great time for JML

Quite disappointing, but we are in Monte - you never know the situation in the end of the rally.

[PLuto]

So, McKenna picked up a time penalty?

Yes, like lot of others - http://rally-base.com/2015/rallye-monte-carlo-2015/penalty/

[makinen_fan]

Good run by Andreas

[wwbroe]

Yes, like lot of others - http://rally-base.com/2015/rallye-monte-carlo-2015/penalty/

I have seen it on rallybase:D

[dimviii]

wtf Latvala after 10+ years at wrc cant drive at Monte conditions.....

[jonkka]

wtf Latvala after 10+ years at wrc cant drive at Monte conditions.....

Actually, he has no reason to. The optimal target is to be 1 point behind the championship leader come final rally (except if final rally is rainy GB, then being ahead may be better).

[makinen_fan]

Thierry +18.3

[wwbroe]

Neuville quite ok on splits, but loosing almost 20 sec at the end

[turves]

Hasnt Latvala said his aim is to finish in the top 4, with 5th being his highest previous finish?

[wwbroe]

Meeke also 25 sec aslower as Seb Ogier

[makinen_fan]

Not great run by Meeke either +20.5

[EightGear]

Evans is coming quickly.

[Rally Talent]

Actually, he has no reason to. The optimal target is to be 1 point behind the championship leader come final rally (except if final rally is rainy GB, then being ahead may be better).

JML seems to be doing everything he can to avoid mistakes in the beginning of the season. Still, I think the best tactics in motorsports is to be faster than the rest - if you aim to win :)

[makinen_fan]

Evans is coming quickly.

Good time, 2nd quickest!

[KKS]

5sec lost Meeke to Kubica on last split :(

[dimviii]

Evans is coming quickly.

actually is faster from ogier between splits 1 & 2

[wwbroe]

Second best time of Evans !!!

[A FONDO]

Evans into second :) Very good job!

[Bartek]

Loeb is flying one more time!! :)

[turves]

Loeb 6.8 up on Ogier at split 1

[makinen_fan]

Seb is 6.8s ahead of Ogier in 1st split

[trifonvl]

6.8 quicker!!!!!

[wwbroe]

What a driver :eek:

[EstWRC]

what i said, that he is gonna smash it again:D

[sp0+]

Yessssssss!!!!!

[WUff1]

Really great comeback of the real Seb!

[wwbroe]

Look at Loeb's second split:eek:

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Petter Solberg on wrc+ times! Go Petter!!

[KKS]

-16 sec quciker :)

[Miika]

What the fog.

[kookie]

Loeb 16.5s quicker than Ogier on split 2...

[René]

- 16sec on Ogier for loeb

[trifonvl]

16'' seconds split!!!!!!

[makinen_fan]

:eek: :eek: 16s faster

[EightGear]

Oh. My. God.

[RobertS]

Life Begins at Forty :)

[makinen_fan]

Tanak dropped 10s from Evans, they were level in 1st split

[sp0+]

2nd split!!!! Yesssssss!!!

[arko5]

15 sec qucker on the stage :)

[makinen_fan]

Seb finished, 15s faster

[N.O.T]

Loeb stop it man... rape is illegal... what are you thinking ???

ΤΣΟ & ΛΟ...

[EstWRC]

Loeb first and Tänak third in overall, ME LIKE IT!

[MikeD]

Booooom Loeb ... absolutely amazing! Go win this one for your old fans.... :D

[rage82]

Loeb is joking!!!

[KKS]

M-sport at 3rd an 4th. Coool!

[N.O.T]

is everyone on the same tyres ? from the comments of Ogier i think he might also opted for different ones from the rest... so he might have an advantage on the coming stages... maybe....

[EstWRC]

Ogier slower than KUbica in first split on SS4

[arko5]

ss4 split Ogier is slower then Kubica

[thuGG]

Most of them are on four studs right? I only heard that Kubica had mixed studs and winters without studs.

[KKS]

some say that JML in champion in future... look at time's 2.70sec/km slower from best rally driver. :)

[trifonvl]

as posted before here, all in studded tyres

[dimviii]

we have to wait for next stages.Even if Loeb bin it,or come 2nd or 10th,is really the king.
There is no retired world champion that could do it last 40 years.

[Rally Talent]

Life Begins at Forty :)

I like that! less than a year to go - gotta find me a WRC car!!!

[tommeke_B]

1s/km is a huge difference...

[EstWRC]

as posted before here, all in studded tyres

M-sport drivers have 2 snow tires as well.

[KKS]

is everyone on the same tyres ? from the comments of Ogier i think he might also opted for different ones from the rest... so he might have an advantage on the coming stages... maybe....

no VW have 4studds+2snow,
Citoren 5 studds

wich comb use Ogier - don't know

[thuGG]

Wow, look at Koci splits! I guess conditions improved a lot.

[Rally Talent]

Koci in WRC2 doing brilliant job!!

[KKS]

WRC2 top drivers faster then WRC tourists like Bertelli and Protasov

[dimviii]

flash info (4 - Loeb Sébastien / Elena Daniel): It was not easy. We have a it if fog in the stage. You have to rely 100% on the notes. But ok, we had no mistake, some mud in some place but I think the time is not so bad. I was happy, I pushed hard.

[PLuto]

WRC2 top drivers faster then WRC tourists like Bertelli and Protasov

They are doing same times like last year with RRC :)

[wwbroe]

I don't think SEB Chardonnet is going to be the next great French champion...

[bluuford]

This stage should be the onlyone for snow tyres I guess.

[René]

Latvala ??

[EightGear]

Koci 7th on ss3!

[Bartek]

Kubica attack and no 2nd split for JML...

[KKS]

Kubica now +0.5 faster than Ogier again
Ogier nervous?

[wwbroe]

WTF, is that same guy as yesterday on WRR at the stage end? He doesn't even speak decent English

[makinen_fan]

is everyone on the same tyres ? from the comments of Ogier i think he might also opted for different ones from the rest... so he might have an advantage on the coming stages... maybe....

maybe, but SS5 is expected with more snow

[A FONDO]

I do not know about tyres but Hyundays are again a total disgrace....

[kookie]

Latvala without 2nd split on SS4?

[trifonvl]

Citroën/Neuville: 5 studded
M-Sport/Sordo/VW : 4 studded + 2 snow
Solberg: 6 studded

[RS]

I don't think SEB Chardonnet is going to be the next great French champion...

Lefebrve is more impressive with R5 car so far.

[PLuto]

Kubica attack and no 2nd split for JML...

According to map JML continue...

[makinen_fan]

According to map JML continue...

3rd slipt he is on the same pace as Seb O

[noel157]

Even Becs finds him hard to understand.

[arko5]

Ogier slower 3 sec then Robert

[Bartek]

According to map JML continue...

I don't have WRC+. I prefer oldschool :)

[thuGG]

I can't stand this guy on the radio...

[PLuto]

I don't have WRC+. I prefer oldschool :)

I have it. I wanted it mainly because of map tracking, but I am quite disappointed. Mainly because there are on tracking only WRC car, nobody from rest...

[Ucci]

Ogier slower 3 sec then Robert

What is this, champ??

[dimviii]

gyus any comments from Ogier at stage stop?

[makinen_fan]

gyus any comments from Ogier at stage stop?

he said that he found it difficult t retain studs on the tyre and then it was very slippery (or something like that, didnt manage to understand it well)

[wwbroe]

gyus any comments from Ogier at stage stop?

Yes, but i don't understand the comentator..., alltough i also speak French:D

[kookie]

Apparently he had problems with tires: "It was difficult because I didn't manage to keep the studs. Very slippery," he says.

[René]

gyus any comments from Ogier at stage stop?

Fri 10:51 - SS4: Ogier struggles
He is 3sec slower than Kubica. That doesn't happen very often... "It was difficult because I didn't manage to keep the studs. Very slippery," he says.

[ELPE]

gyus any comments from Ogier at stage stop?

Ogier losing studs, find it very slippery

[Simmi]

Not sure Gabin will be back for any more rounds this year.

[wwbroe]

Looks like Robert Kubica has set a very fast time in this one

[wwbroe]

Ostberg also complaining that he has lost his studs

[kookie]

Ostberg also destroyed his studs...

[makinen_fan]

Are the snow tyres also studded ??? Will they be more suited to the ice of SS5?

[René]

It seems that the road condition are degraded with time

[ELPE]

And they are going to use the same tires for the next snowy stage.......

[Miika]

Does he speak decent anything?

And again sounds as if this radio program is sent from a galaxy far far away.

[wwbroe]

This guy is worthless, he said that Neuville didn't recognise this stage....

[dimviii]

gyus thanks for responses about stage end comments.

[EstWRC]

Tänak and Loeb is awesome to watch.

[wwbroe]

Meeke said that it was going a little bit better on this stage. Alltough it being still very tricky.

[makinen_fan]

Evans says it gets very muddy and dirty

[René]

3 - Meeke Kris / Nagle Paul): I had a better rhythm. There was mud on the exit of blind corners.

[René]

Fri 11:00 - SS4: Neuville
"Difficult - I hardly recognize the road after the recce, the notes from the gravel crew are hard to use."

[Quad]

Looks like mighty time from Kubica, Loeb slower on splits

[KKS]

Not sure Gabin will be back for any more rounds this year.

Why? As microphone holder he is good

[EstWRC]

Go go go tÄnak and loeb!

[René]

Fri 11:03 - SS4: Evans
Fifth quickest so far. "The cars in front are cutting a lot, so there is a lots of mud on the road."

[JAM]

This guy is worthless, he said that Neuville didn't recognise this stage....


And its true. Neuville said that.

[EightGear]

Can't stop wondering why Sordo has been given a full 13 rounds program.

[dimviii]

flash info (3 - Meeke Kris / Nagle Paul):. It is dry tarmac so it is difficult for the studs.

[wwbroe]

Some problem for Henning?

[René]

(3 - Meeke Kris / Nagle Paul): I had a better rhythm. Still very tricky, a lot of mud being pulled out. On some blind corners there is some mud on the exit so very tricky. It is dry tarmac so it is difficult for the studs.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I feel sorry for Chris Ingram having this French guy as his co-driver... :(

[dimviii]

Fri 11:03 - SS4: Evans
Fifth quickest so far. "The cars in front are cutting a lot, so there is a lots of mud on the road."

go figure Loebs road with 5 car passes more

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loebs 3rd split close to Kubica ...

[wwbroe]

And its true. Neuville said that.

No, he said that it was difficult to recognise places since recce, wich is totally different. He also said that it is difficult to adapt the changes made by gravel crew.

[trifonvl]

Loeb almost equal with Ogier in last split!!

[WUff1]

Kubica, Loeb or Tanak??

EDIT: Think Loeb will catch this stage

EDIT2: Martin Koci very impressing!

[JAM]

Can't stop wondering why Sordo has been given a full 13 rounds program.

Because the spanish market is important to Hyundai, and Sordo is good on tarmac.