Wrc+

[doubled1978]

I’ve said before that I personally like Becs being the lead, she knows the WRC and she knows enough technically to carry the broadcast, but crucially she knows when to hand off to the ‘expert’ in co-comms. Julian is a good foil to her, and I have to say it was good with Seb Marshall alongside her as well. Desborough for me is where it falls down, he talks way too much about totally random and irrelevant stuff that has no bearing about what’s on screen, and as a result it usually puts Julian on the back foot to try and steer the narrative back to what’s happening.
Obviously they have been left in the lurch with stage end due to Colin leaving and Molly away having a baby, but I thought Ben Constandurous and Emyr are ok, the new lady clearly struggled with actual WRC knowledge.

[rallyfiend]

Sisteron. That 23-mile run up the D3 from Thoard, over the legendary hairpins near Authon and down into the town, is legendary for striking fear into the hearts of rally folk. And now darkness has fallen - in every sense.

In just a couple of hours, the World Rally Championship is expected to step out of the darkness and into the light, courtesy of its ground-breaking All Live service. But now, with the start of the 2018 Monte Carlo Rally looming large, the world's gone a bit mad. It looks like fate may have its finger poised over the pause button.

Florian Ruth, the WRC's head of television, is one of the most positive people you can ever hope to meet. But talk to him about that Thursday night in Gap two years ago and the smile slips.

Those hours still haunt him.

"They were some of the hardest days we had in the championship," he says.

"That Thursday night we were in the middle of the mountains, with two huge mountains between the cars and our base. We also had low temperatures, but the logistics and geography were the biggest challenges.



"We had done a couple of rallies before we started All Live; we tested as much as possible. We knew what our technology was capable of, but to do this, in reality, there was no test possible.

"We cannot ask the manufacturers to run their cars away from a rally for us to check the signals. We tested lots of elements, but the whole system really only ran when Monte started."

For a year, WRC Promoter had been talking about this moment. Everything through 2017 was geared towards offering rally fans around the world all the WRC stages, all live. From the device of your choice, you could sign up and watch the WRC like never before. And lots had signed up, and were ready and waiting.

"That moment on Thursday night was actually quite emotional," says Ruth, "because it looked like we would be failing.

"In Argentina we had some remote-feed drop-outs because some military ops blocked our signals. These are massive challenges that we can't legislate against"
Florian Ruth
"For this difficult operation, we had just chosen the absolute hardest day of the whole season with two stages in the middle of the night, in the middle of the mountains with snowfall and minus temperatures. It was so stressful.

"In the end, we had a start and end-of-stage camera via the satellite and a few parts of the action. There was just about enough to tell the story, but this was not how All Live looked in our vision or how we wanted to showcase it to the world.

"It didn't go black, but this wasn't what we'd been thinking of when we were talking about showcasing this beautiful product."

Friday was a new day. And everything was well in the world of All Live.

"The sun came out," says Ruth.



"We knew the [camera] positions and we got some of the absolute best brains in the business and they just did an awesome job and did it together. On Friday we could start to show what the vision looked like, and by Sunday night we'd proved we could make 30 hours of rally coverage per weekend and make it interesting."

And that's what Ruth and his team have been doing ever since.

"This is rallying," he continues. "In Formula 1, they have pre-fibre-cabled camera positions where they plug in the camera and start producing. We have nothing. We don't know if it's sunny, rainy, are there mountains?

"In Argentina we had some remote-feed drop-outs because of some military ops that blocked our signals. These are massive challenges that we can't legislate against."

But it's that challenge that keeps Ruth interested, occupied and very much in the game, and All Live is his game. Having worked on Red Bull's Air Race project for a while, he took a trip to Rally Poland in 2015 and was surprised at how poorly fans were served.

"After that rally I wrote a concept," says Ruth. "In this concept, already I was struggling with logistics of the rally. OK, something happened out on the stages. At this point, somebody filmed it, then the helicopter came and picked up the card to bring it back to base where it was ingested, edited and uploaded. This took hours.



"I'm a big fan of real-time communication. I don't want to learn what happened yesterday, I want to know now. The fans film what happens on the stages and put it on YouTube 10 minutes later. We cannot be hours behind.

"I thought of a way to connect everything we have at the rally and have it all live. There's nothing new with the All Live idea. The previous promoter had a similar idea, to be faster on social and digital media. In combination with new technology on the market, All Live was possible."

Ruth's right. During his tenure in the promoter's seat two decades ago, David Richards was banging the drum about digital live coverage. Richards' frustration about the WRC not being available on mobile telephones in the early noughties was huge. But the cost to change it was simply too high.

Regardless of which end of the world All Live director Stefan Koch calls the shots from, he's sitting in the same seat looking at the same screens and pushing the same buttons
Codecs has fixed that. It's now cheaper and more straightforward than ever to pack pictures into a transmittable format.

"The cost is important, but the main thing is that this is now a reliable and stable system," says Ruth.

"Before these improvements in codecs we would have been using radio frequencies which would have had too many break-ups."

As well as covering the start and finish of every stage, All Live runs some cameras in the stage, as well as onboards and a heli-cam. At any one time, there can be as many as 80 camera feeds coming into the All Live base in the service park. Coming via satellite, they're usually with WRC TV between 1.3-1.6 seconds later.

Those pictures were all fed into the back of an outside broadcast truck. On some events, that was the promoter's own truck, but on events such as Argentina the facility was hired locally. Because of that, there was no continuity of quality.

To combat that, Ruth commissioned the build of studio production pods.



"We have ripped apart an OB van and built it into four pods," says Ruth. "The technology is all the same in the pods [as in the OB van]."

The difference here is that these four pods are taken to every round. Regardless of which end of the world All Live director Stefan Koch calls the shots from, he's sitting in the same seat looking at the same screens and pushing the same buttons.

Over the past two years, making 30 hours of television from Thursday afternoon until Sunday lunchtime has become the norm. Fans have come to expect it. But Ruth himself is still learning.

"I have been in this sport for three years now," he says, "and still on every rally I learn something new.

"This is why we have experts like [former co-driver] Steve Turvey, and this is why we work with the best people and best reporters."

Still, however, there's the odd niggle. Britain's own WRC counter in Wales, for example, can provide a real headache.



"The remote-feed signals are very sensitive," he says. "When it's wet, the signals do get blocked by the water, so when we have forests with leaves we can have break-ups in the transmissions of onboards. The signals don't go through water."

At the moment, stopping the rain remains beyond even Ruth's control. Instead, he'll chase a fix from the tech side. The delays are, of course, necessary on some occasions. If there's a particularly nasty accident, everything can go on hold.

"We send the pictures down the fibre to Stockley Park and they go from the service park to there in around 300 milliseconds"
Ruth
"We actually have two delays from our side," says Ruth.

"There's a safety delay of 10 seconds, just in case. We love the sport and we don't want anything to happen; we want control. But in addition to that we want the buffering time, so wherever you watch you should have a continuous and fluent stream of pictures."

And those pictures are available on your iPhone or tablet in Tescos. But if you're watching in the office, just be careful.

"We had some people telling us they lost their jobs because they were watching All Live all the time," says Ruth. "We even had some guy telling us it cost him his marriage!"



In addition to producing constant live pictures for WRC.com, Ruth oversees the creation of the promoter's television package. That process underwent significant change last year, with TV production moving to Stockley Park, near Heathrow.

"Moving to London means we can take 20 people less to each round," says Ruth.

Such cost savings - with the potential for more folk to follow - along with a rapidly growing subscription base are helping to sustain All Live.

"The post-production base in London is possible because of our technical partner Tata," he adds. "Tata provides a fibre connection all around the world and, once we plug into this connection from our rally base, we send the pictures down the fibre to Stockley Park and they go from the service park to there in around 300 milliseconds."

So, when you fire up the phone for to watch the action unfold in the Alps, you'll do so safe in the knowledge that, actually, Ott Tanak's not the fastest thing in the service park.

[AnttiL]

It's always class A rally television when they have an expert commentator on All Live. I remember Mads in Catalunya 2018 noticing instantly from the onboard that Latvala has a puncture.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The worst thing TV sports ever did was move from having one commentator to two. This means that they feel they have to keep a conversation going continually.

All TV sport should have a No Comms option.

[prodim]

Is there anyone who had a yearly subscription for 2019 and unsubscribed for 2020?
In my case, my 2019 subscription ended on 24th of January. On 22nd I send them an unsubscribe e-mail and I received their auto reply(?) with a ticket number.
On Sunday I saw that my subscription is still active and they charged me a yearly pack for 2020.
Nobody answers to my e-mails and inside my account I see the below.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200127/76afa915c581442af1e61794bd7bf65d.jpg

Maybe they are too professionals to answer me!

Any help will be appreciated!

[erikli2]

Is there anyone who had a yearly subscription for 2019 and unsubscribed for 2020?
In my case, my 2019 subscription ended on 24th of January. On 22nd I send them an unsubscribe e-mail and I received their auto reply(?) with a ticket number.
On Sunday I saw that my subscription is still active and they charged me a yearly pack for 2020.
Nobody answers to my e-mails and inside my account I see the below.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200127/76afa915c581442af1e61794bd7bf65d.jpg

Maybe they are too professionals to answer me!

Any help will be appreciated!

Instead of sending them an "unsubscribe e-mail" you should´ve logged in on the WRC+ website and clicked "Cancel subscription". It only works on the website I think, not in the app.

1918

[SubaruNorway]

Doesn't it say something about 48 hours somewhere so you were probably just too late, why did you buy 1 month before your 2019 ran out?

[prodim]

I send an email because there wasn’t any cancel subscription button inside my account page and if I remember right I read that I can send an email with “cancel subscription” on the subject.
Moreover, I didn’t buy a monthly plan! Also I don’t see any charge for a monthly plan to my credit account except the yearly plan!!!
On the FAQs page says that you can cancel at least one day before the subscription automatically renews.
Honestly I don’t know what is happening but if I’ll not have any feedback from them until Friday morning, I’ll go to my bank for a dispute.

[Wold]

My yearly subscription was due on thursday, did renew for a month, ang I got charged for both a month and a year. Have send them an email, but got no answer yet.........

[gps-monkey]

Looks like wrc+ all live is run by a bunch of monkeys.

[Portimao]

Thank god I use pre-paid visa

[prodim]

My yearly subscription was due on thursday, did renew for a month, ang I got charged for both a month and a year. Have send them an email, but got no answer yet.........

If you have any feedback let us know.

I tried to call them yesterday and today but ring no answer!
Nobody answers to my emails.

[gps-monkey]

Same here. 7 mails about a not working subscription and no answer.

Looks like a 1 man corporation....

[RallyTyger]

Same here, I emailed them, got a mail requesting confirmation of the double payment... Sent it in last friday, got no reply since then

[NickRally]

Best is to use Paypal, this way you can get your money back relatively easily - I did use Paypal when I had a valid subscription and when I had to dispute one of the payments, as you have experienced yourself, they ignored even Paypal and Paypal simply reimbursed my payment.

[TanelP]

Iphone app has a glitch when using bluetooth speakers. Screen goes black but sound comes through. App seems to think that Im using either apple airplay or chromecast.
Sent an e-mail to support but havent recieved any feedback from them.

This one got fixed today.

[swanny]

I thought it was rude that they don't send out an email a week or so before renewal to tell you it's coming. I guess they figured that a few people might say "oh, I meant to cancel that", so they don't bother.

It's run out of Germany and the fine print, as I understand it at least, can contain nasty surprises.

[Rally Power]

Looks like wrc+ all live is run by a bunch of monkeys.

Spot on!

https://www.mixd.com.br/boasfestas/img/01.gif

[Karbonyl]

Does anyone have info about updating the WRC+ Smart TV App?

[AnttiL]

The WRC+ Sweden preview doesn't mention the warm weather with a word. The route preview graphics are from the original itinerary and the voiceover just quickly says "Saturday's program is like Friday"

[flykas]

How to change the comentators language on tv app? For some reason my app is in spanish:/

[TanelP]

Same for me on iphone app. Spanish only.

[HarriK]

New wrc app downloaded to my Android phone. When I open live stream the app just shut down!!
This was not during Monte but now in Sweden.

[Myrvold]

Check for update. I had an 11mb update I needed to DL

[drive]

Android app updated and then keeps closing down... bugger

[er88]

Android app updated and then keeps closing down... buggerYep doing that for me.

[Miika]

'Heartbeat error 101 #525645747'

Wow, utter shite still.

[Eli]

'Heartbeat error 101 #525645747'

Wow, utter shite still.

Yes and when the broadcast is back on it's as if it never happened....what a bunch of amateurs.

[P.T.L]

Nop, no picture for me.

[Portimao]

Still hot working.

[AnttiL]

Yes and when the broadcast is back on it's as if it never happened....what a bunch of amateurs.

The people doing the broadcast don't know where the stream goes and are not aware if it cuts down. It's only wrc.com server which went down. If the stream is syndicated elsewhere (TV companies) it keeps working.

It's still pretty crappy that we have only four stages today and two of them aren't shown

[Eli]

The people doing the broadcast don't know where the stream goes and are not aware if it cuts down. It's only wrc.com server which went down. If the stream is syndicated elsewhere (TV companies) it keeps working.

It's still pretty crappy that we have only four stages today and two of them aren't shown

They should just leave the WRC site alone, each time they do a big overhaul they have a lot of bugs, they should just keep it to small yearly updates or don't update the looks of the sight at all, I couldn't care less if it's green, blue, red or orange...

[AnttiL]

They should just leave the WRC site alone, each time they do a big overhaul they have a lot of bugs, they should just keep it to small yearly updates or don't update the looks of the sight at all, I couldn't care less if it's green, blue, red or orange...

Obviously this login server crashing has nothing to do with the UI upgrade for this year. We have had the same heartbeat errors before. I think it happens when too many people are watching the stream.

[Eli]

Obviously this login server crashing has nothing to do with the UI upgrade for this year. We have had the same heartbeat errors before. I think it happens when too many people are watching the stream.

They need more servers if that's the case to make sure it doesn't happen or happens less.

[AnttiL]

They need more servers if that's the case to make sure it doesn't happen or happens less.

This is true, or then they need to fix something in the code.

[er88]

The BT sport AllLive stream works all the time. Can't remember it ever having any problems - so yeah it must be a WRC server issue or something.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

World Rally Championship - WRC

We are aware of technical issues being experienced today on WRC+ All Live and http://WRC.com. We apologise for the inconvenience. Our technical department is working hard to resolve this issue which we hope will be fixed as quickly as possible.

[lnvs]

Nice that they give some proper all live time for other classes.

[Rally Power]

World Rally Championship - WRC

We are aware of technical issues being experienced today on WRC+ All Live and http://WRC.com. We apologise for the inconvenience. Our technical department is working hard to resolve this issue

https://i.imgflip.com/qze23.jpg

[Sulland]

Is alllive working for you today?

[Portimao]

It was offline for a while but it's working now.

[Portimao]

This girl interviewing in the end of SS07 is just bad.

[KKS]

Very good job by Abi and Julian again at Sweden. So far it's a best pair of presenters in ALLLive, they naturally add each other. Very good progress from Abi compare to last year.
But that new/old stage-end girl who worked for Citroen last year never ever should be on WRC. She just simply low for it and I guess without any chance for improve :/

[KKS]

WRC+ tech team yesterday - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rAOyh7YmEc :mad:

[Rally Power]

WRC+ tech team yesterday - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rAOyh7YmEc :mad:

Those were talented monkeys! Thanks for posting the clip; didn’t hear Basement Jaxx for ages.

[EstWRC]

i dont find where i can cancel my subscription, anyone?

[flat_right]

i dont find where i can cancel my subscription, anyone?

I have also had this problem and as I had it through iTunes I had to cancel from there also. Don't know your situation though but maybe it helps.

[BobJones]

I have also had this problem and as I had it through iTunes I had to cancel from there also. Don't know your situation though but maybe it helps.

Oh god, never subscribe to a third-party service via iTunes.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

i dont find where i can cancel my subscription, anyone?

Cancel from wherever you subscribed ie the App or the website.

[AnttiL]

Cancel from wherever you subscribed ie the App or the website.

I can't see such link either.

[BigWorm]

FAQ says there should be an option in the account management but there is none. Guess they've forgotten to implement that feature in the new design.

Or they're very desperate to hold on to the paying subscribers.

[cali]

i dont find where i can cancel my subscription, anyone?Just out of curiosity from where are you going to follow rally without wrc+?

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[Oliverk]

At least before Monaco there was a button to unsubscribe. I always subscribe and unsubscribre right after.

[EstWRC]

Just out of curiosity from where are you going to follow rally without wrc+?

Sent from my GM1913 using Tapatalk

Dont worry, i will still use it, my friend asked me and then i saw that i dont have the unsubscribe button either, then the other friend sent a screenshot that he has the button.

weird

[tonis_t]

Just out of curiosity from where are you going to follow rally without wrc+?

Sent from my GM1913 using Tapatalk

If you have subscribed for full year and you unsubscribe mid term, then it does not mean that you are unable to follow wrc+. It just means that when the full year is over you will not be charged automatically for the next term.
The thing that I do not like about this subscription system that this means that you will be automatically charged full price at the end of the term (yearly, not monthly in my case) and you are unable to take advantage for the offers that might pop up.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

People subscribe before an event for 1 month and they get 2 rallies in that period. Then they Unsub and do the same again at the start of the next event. It can work out cheaper this way.

[tonis_t]

My friend has TV with android OS and he has a specially cheap offer inside wrc app that I have not seen anywhere else including my phone.

[cali]

I have Nvidia Shield and can't watch AllLive through Android TV app

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[AnttiL]

My friend has TV with android OS and he has a specially cheap offer inside wrc app that I have not seen anywhere else including my phone.

Possibly an old version of the software?

[pantealex]

Just out of curiosity from where are you going to follow rally without wrc+?


I don´t have it. (I had it for 2-years)
Results are everywhere
Twitter has news and videos
This forum knows quite much
wrc.com has splits

I´m sure that large number of rallyfans don´t have wrc+
People did follow rallying before internet time...
Stages are live on normal TV

[cali]

I don´t have it. (I had it for 2-years)
Results are everywhere
Twitter has news and videos
This forum knows quite much
wrc.com has splits

I´m sure that large number of rallyfans don´t have wrc+
People did follow rallying before internet time...
Stages are live on normal TVI know all that but not every stage is live. I like wrc+, it has many things to improve but you cant beat live stages no mater what.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

I have to have it now it has the No Commentary option.

I now find it unbearable to watch with comms and especially the 'Live TV' stages with Desbrough or King chatting shit non-stop.

[AnttiL]

I got an email that my payment has crashed. And truly, my bank did change everyone's credit card last year so I should also enter my new payment details...but there's no place to do it. Also no cancel button. But my subscription has one month more time. Anyway, I messaged support.

The new website is a big mess.

Also, for example Rally Argentina 2018 onboards are missing, and all the highlight videos before 2019 are gone.

[AnttiL]

I got an email that my payment has crashed. And truly, my bank did change everyone's credit card last year so I should also enter my new payment details...but there's no place to do it. Also no cancel button. But my subscription has one month more time. Anyway, I messaged support.

Customer support told me to cancel my subscription to change payment details. They also said at the moment the cancel button is not available on the website due to technical problems. :rolleyes:

At the same time, it seems my account is still working. :cool:

[Oliverk]

Customer support told me to cancel my subscription to change payment details. They also said at the moment the cancel button is not available on the website due to technical problems. :rolleyes:

At the same time, it seems my account is still working. :cool:
It has been working for free for a year for some for the same reasons. Looks like it is programmed by monkeys.

[flykas]

Does anyone know why it is not possible to watch live on Samasung tv app and also through browser on Samsung tv? App only shows black screen.

[Sulland]

Does anyone know why it is not possible to watch live on Samasung tv app and also through browser on Samsung tv? App only shows black screen.

I saw the sstv app came in 2015, maybe it is not updated since or no longer supported. Check with samsung helpdesk.

[Päss1928]

wrc+ forking for you guys? Chrome doesn't even display the login window. Mozilla does but can't login.

[Miika]

Just checking in for some rally action and ..it's utter shit still. Who knew.


CONFIG ERRORROROR #!=!101
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[BurgundyRedMamba]

wrc+ forking for you guys? Chrome doesn't even display the login window. Mozilla does but can't login.

Same problem, non of the browsers (Chrome, Firefox, Edge) does not show the All Live feed.

[SubaruNorway]

Only working on android app for me but chromecast won't work.
Edit. Now that won't work either

[gps-monkey]

Not working. You don't get what you pay for.

[Mirek]

After gazillions of attempts and password reset I managed to login on the phone but on the PC it doesn't work. But even after the login the stream doesn't work.

[Tauri_J]

Utter garbage again

[pantealex]

There is minimum 2 months break coming to WRC.
Do you have to pay for those months ?

I assume that 1 year deal is 1 year deal, not certain number of rallies.

[HarriK]

Dear WRC+ user,

Thanks for your request and your interest in WRC+.

The problem is not directly connected to WRC+. We have already recognized the issue and our service provider is working hard to resolve it.

We apologize for any inconvenience and would like to ask you to retry later. Thank you!

[Franky]

Whenever WRC.com gets updated, it's never for the better.

[stefanvv]

Utter disaster, have no words

[seb_sh]

Well this sucks, only event not cancelled for a couple of months probably and the live stream is down :(

[Portimao]

This All Live is such a bullshit

[sindroms]

Works fine for me since I logged in from the start of stages broadcast...
Could be just coincident tough.

[cali]

This is so bad service

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[Essaj]

Was working fine for me until now, but now the whole WRC site crashed for me and also they managed to took one of the working twitch streams down aswell. Guess they don't want people to follow their sport
:)

[AnttiL]

Works fine for me since I logged in from the start of stages broadcast...
Could be just coincident tough.

I also logged in before the start of SS3 and was able to watch the whole stage, but not the two next ones.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

BT Sport 2 HD is now showing All Live at 7.00pm and will have all the afternoon stages from 9.30pm to 00.30.

[Kradovech]

I also logged in before the start of SS3 and was able to watch the whole stage, but not the two next ones.

Same here - it was working while I was watching from work. When I got home wanted to continue, everyting is broken - webpage, samsung tv app and android app on my phone

[erikli2]

"We are dealing with some technical issues which have affected our live text service and apologise for any inconvenience caused by this."

Seriously, they're not even able to deliver live TEXT?? Unbelievable.

[AnttiL]

Stream working now

[stefanvv]

The problem is the Corona virus. All sports community has turned now to WRC due to lack of other sport events. wrc.com is not prepared for such high volume of users.

[doubled1978]

Mine is working again now, just after I sent an e-mail saying if it wasn’t fixed quickly I would be seeking compensation.
Seriously though, most of us can accept a glitch here and there, but since they changed the website it just fails consistently and even the login process falls over repeatedly, and if you finally succeed god help you if you try and watch AllLive.

[USER47]

Brilliant, after they seemed to have fixed the stream, I decided to activate the monthly sub so I could watch through the weekend, the website happily took my card info, but got stuck in infinite loading afterwards, so now the payment is reflected on my bank account, but WRC is still telling me I have no active subscription.

I sent an email and I hope they can sort it out quickly from their side, otherwise I would be rather pissed.

[AnttiL]

now we have some weird audio track going on

[erikli2]

Aaaaand it's gone.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The BT Sport/ESPN HD channel is showing full live coverage of today's stages. Probably as its one of the few sports events still taking place.

[Franky]

During this uncertain time of the Coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, we value your continued support and as such, will be providing sufficient compensation, once action returns to normal. Stay with us for more details!
From the WRC+ "newsletter". Wonder how they'll compensate

[AnttiL]

https://www.wrc.com/en/news/season-2020/wrc/covid19-wrcplus-subscription-update/


DEAR RALLY FANS,
Three years ago, the WRC Promoter had an ambitious plan – to give you live coverage of every stage of every rally, something that had never been attempted before. WRC+ All Live was born out of our passion for rally and became reality thanks to your devoted support. Without it, this project would have never happened.

That is not to say, that like all good relationships, this project has been plain sailing and not without problems along the way, particularly at the beginning of this season as we transit to an all-new platform. We have been devoted to fixing these issues and are confident they are now resolved.

Furthermore, we want to play our part to HELP FIGHT CORONAVIRUS, by providing you with plenty of reasons to remain at home! In the coming weeks, we will be:

Digging deep into our archives to provide you with exclusive highlights from some of the BEST MOMENTS IN THE HISTORY OF WRC.

Creating a number of SPECIAL FEATURES exclusively for you, the WRC+ subscribers.


We intend to keep you informed and up-to-date throughout this difficult time, as we look forward to being back to bringing you live WRC action as soon as possible.

Best regards,
Your WRC Team

[the sniper]

https://www.wrc.com/en/news/season-2020/wrc/covid19-wrcplus-subscription-update/

It would be interesting to know what the WRC archive actually consists of? This may be rubbish, but I seem to recall from somewhere that at least some archive footage was disposed of during the North One era, to cut down on storage costs. IIRC this is why so many of the daily and event highlights shows from around 2001 onward got uploaded to the official WRC You Tube channel, to get them out there. (Well worth looking up if you aren't aware of them, in these times of isolation: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=WRC+daily+highlights+2001 for example)

They could have purchased the WRC stuff in the Duke Video archive in 2018, but that seemingly all went to Motorsport Network. Part of me wonders whether they've only got the 'Best Moments' and various other 1 hour compilation shows, most of which I believe were made in the North One era, plus all the stuff from the 'WRC Promoter'/Red Bull era.

It wouldn't surprise me if FOM still hold the footage from 1996 to 2000 in their archive in Biggin Hill.

[Franky]

As the non racing period gets longer and longer, I'm starting to wonder how the WRC+ service will compensate the long term subscribers as their main product All Live is not live at all.

[the sniper]

Can anybody recall if it's been said, or knows, how much it costs them to produce the All Live coverage for each rally? I have a feeling that Julian Porter said a number live on air once.

I'm particularly interested to know how much a it'd cost to cover a shorter two day event, by comparison. I can't imagine that can be answered though.

[AnttiL]

There are fixed expenses (shipping the equipment including the helicopter and transmitter aeroplane onto the location) and time-related expenses (the hours the transmitter aeroplane is airborne and the days the personnel must stay at the hotel). I don't think reducing one day makes much difference.

[the sniper]

There are fixed expenses (shipping the equipment including the helicopter and transmitter aeroplane onto the location) and time-related expenses (the hours the transmitter aeroplane is airborne and the days the personnel must stay at the hotel). I don't think reducing one day makes much difference.

I imagine you're correct. Just curious really.

[Franky]

Antti, the time-related expenses aren't that small either. As the audiovisual staff typically is paid by the amount of shifts they do. So if they are on location e.g. 4 days, then cutting one day off is 25% reduction in said line item in the budget.

But if there's one day less of rallying and everything is compressed into a smaller time frame, then it might mean that you actually need more production resources to cover everything.

In a way there are too many variables to give any real opinion, how it would influence the production costs.

[bf1_IRL]

Anyone know if the Samsung TV app is working correctly at the moment? Considering a purchase but this could be a deciding factor.

[1988senna]

Dose anybody know the latest Promo Code for WRC+

[flykas]

Anyone know if the Samsung TV app is working correctly at the moment? Considering a purchase but this could be a deciding factor.

I bet that it doesn't work correctly. It is very rare for it to work on the day of the event.

[Portimao]

Audio quality seems a bit low, it definitely sounds different than before.

[Miika]

And now the 'No commentary' option is broken (at least in desktop version). And they say they don't update this thing.

[Eli]

And now the 'No commentary' option is broken (at least in desktop version). And they say they don't update this thing.

Been carrying that problem since yesterday...

[AnttiL]

No heartbeat/login issues for anyone? No black screens? :)

[Sulland]

Too much to follow to look.

- Wrc
- Norwegian Rally
- Formula 3
- WRX

Is there still WRC radio somewhere?

[Franky]

Is there still WRC radio somewhere?

Think they stopped broadcasting the WRC All Live audio stream as radio.

[Sulland]

Next year they need to get in a recently retired driver as "expert commentator" to get more tech input. As of today it is wortless as live TV, still commentating as it is still radio imo.

[erikli2]

They need to improve their live coverage, a lot of time the audio is out of sync/from the wrong car, stage end interviews are cut off etc.

[AnttiL]

Seb Marshall is doing stage end interviews this weekend.

Due to coronavirus restrictions of media having their own "bubbles", he cannot do live commentary.

[AnttiL]

Also good to read this twitter thread when criticizing the stage end interviewers...they can't always hear what the drivers say because the cars are so loud and they can't always watch the All Live broadcast so they don't know what's happened as well as we do.

https://twitter.com/peterjwhitten/status/1306469482097831938

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I hope they've got the 'No Commentary' issue sorted for Turkey - it kept switching back to 'English' of it's own accord.

[Portimao]

Bit too much of expression from a new commentator.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bit too much of expression from a new commentator.

Another Mr Shouty, Desborough-style. :(

Glad they've fixed the 'No Commentary' option on WRC+. :)

[doubled1978]

He’s a skiing commentator normally, on Eurosport I think...been around for years.

[flykas]

For me on the Samsung app commentator in Spanish (again). Is there a way to fix it?

[flykas]

Oh, I tried to fix it so now the app says that it cannot connect to the internet though I hear that video is playing in the background.

[doubled1978]

My TV is doing that, works find on my iPad...

[Sulland]

Strange that WRC.com are not able to keep split times live updated. Drivers that has passed the finish line are still out driving acc to the official site.

[SubaruNorway]

Strange that WRC.com are not able to keep split times live updated. Drivers that has passed the finish line are still out driving acc to the official site.

It's normal, they need a delay incase something happens.

And yeah the new presenter must have had one too many esspresos...

[AnttiL]

It's normal, they need a delay incase something happens.

The other way around, split times should come in before the delayed video, but they don't.

[the sniper]

He’s a skiing commentator normally, on Eurosport I think...been around for years.

Yeah, I was trying to place him, the voice was very familiar but I didn't remember from where until a few hours later. Skiing on English speaking Eurosport. Somewhat explains why he places so much emphasis on talking about the racing line!

I like his commentary on Skiing. He's a professional sounding commentator, certainly knows his stuff about that sport. Got to give him time to find his feet in rallying, it's probably better for him to lean more towards using the conversational side of his commentary, as rallying is normally a slower burning event than downhill ski races.

[doubled1978]

Yeah, I was trying to place him, the voice was very familiar but I didn't remember from where until a few hours later. Skiing on English speaking Eurosport. Somewhat explains why he places so much emphasis on talking about the racing line!

I like his commentary on Skiing. He's a professional sounding commentator, certainly knows his stuff about that sport. Got to give him time to find his feet in rallying, it's probably better for him to lean more towards using the conversational side of his commentary, as rallying is normally a slower burning event than downhill ski races.

Yes, he’s putting too much emphasis on the result of 1 stage when in rally it’s about the overall. In skiing it’s all about the time on that run usually.
He is a good commentator, and I agree I like his ski commentary so let him find his way.

[Portimao]

Bunch of amateurs

https://i.ibb.co/0BKgX9q/Zrzut-ekranu-2020-09-20-062555.jpg (https://ibb.co/VHx7NCV)

[Katvala]

Happened to me too, but refreshing it fixed it

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[AnttiL]

That appeared during the Break before the stage

[GigiGalliNo1]

Bunch of amateurs

https://i.ibb.co/0BKgX9q/Zrzut-ekranu-2020-09-20-062555.jpg (https://ibb.co/VHx7NCV)

How do you know your IP might have had a disconnection of their service to get WRC to play? What if the satellite connection that WRC are paying for has an issue? Always quick to judge and put the blame on with people these days.

Great we have such a service isn't it! :)

[tommeke_B]

Great we have such a service isn't it! :)
Nobody is "having" it, actually everyone is paying for it. If you pay for a whole season, only get a half, with some errors on each and every event. I only take time to see a few stages per event, and haven't encountered many issues, but I'm hearing the same complaints from everyone, everywhere...

[Hartusvuori]

Nobody is "having" it, actually everyone is paying for it. If you pay for a whole season, only get a half, with some errors on each and every event. I only take time to see a few stages per event, and haven't encountered many issues, but I'm hearing the same complaints from everyone, everywhere...

We do have it. We couldn't subscribe to it if we wouldn't have it. It has its errors as it has its challenges to produce the show, but bottom line is, we have been on a different level since 2018 when All Live was introduced.

[AnttiL]

Nobody is "having" it, actually everyone is paying for it. If you pay for a whole season, only get a half, with some errors on each and every event. I only take time to see a few stages per event, and haven't encountered many issues, but I'm hearing the same complaints from everyone, everywhere...

I didn't miss any stages or have any issues during Estonia and Turkey (except for that missing stream before Turkey SS9) although the three first rallies had more problems...

Seb Marshall was excellent on stage end interviews.

They have also fixed the buffering of the stream. I can pause the stream, close the computer for hours, come back and continue where I left off. Last year it would have taken me soon back to the current stream after pausing for a long time.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

They fixed the No Comms issue so no complaints here.

[GigiGalliNo1]

We do have it. We couldn't subscribe to it if we wouldn't have it. It has its errors as it has its challenges to produce the show, but bottom line is, we have been on a different level since 2018 when All Live was introduced.

Can we remember 2017?

[Franky]

Can we remember 2017?

Why compare something with past, when the sights should be only towards future? Yes, they have been constantly improving but they also are far away from anything that could be a perfect product.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Why compare something with past, when the sights should be only towards future? Yes, they have been constantly improving but they also are far away from anything that could be a perfect product.

Hi Franky,

I was only being silly and replying to this:


...but bottom line is, we have been on a different level since 2018 when All Live was introduced.

:)

[SubaruNorway]

Anyone else having onboards randomly stopping? 100mbit line...

[Fredouye]

Same here, with a gigabit connection...

[AnttiL]

Anyone else having onboards randomly stopping? 100mbit line...

Always had that occasionally. Skipping over the jammimg spot helps.

[mknight]

Switched TV to Samsung and can't figure out how to get sound ? All videos play without sound and there doesn't seem to be any option to turn it on.

[flykas]

Switched TV to Samsung and can't figure out how to get sound ? All videos play without sound and there doesn't seem to be any option to turn it on.

I watch on Samsung tv app and there is sound, but all commentary is in Spanish ;(

[tonis_t]

Morning,
Has anyone found where to cancel automatic subscription renewal?
I can browse my user account as much as I want but I do not see this place. I can see my subscription status but not where to cancel yearly automatic subscription renewal.

[TanelP]

Via Computer:
The cancellation process is located on your profile page.

Via smartdevice:
In-App purchases via Apple iTunes Store or Google Play Store must be cancelled directly in the relevant store.

[mknight]

I watch on Samsung tv app and there is sound, but all commentary is in Spanish ;(

Sorry I didn't see your reply before.
Doing "reset app settings" in the WRC+ app itself fixed the sound.

[tonis_t]

Yes, I do see the cancellation button, I do not talk about this. I am talking about automatic renewal. How can I mace sure that this is off. Cancelling my subscription noes not necessarily cancel automatic renewal. On the previous generation homepage they had dedicated place for this setting not on the new home page.

[TanelP]

If you cancel at least one day before automatic renewal date, then youre fine.

All the info is on this link: https://www.wrc.com/en/footer/wrcplus/faqs/account-subscription/

[tonis_t]

Most unclear way to do things. If I cancel my subscription, then it actually does not cancel the subscription but the auto renewal feature?

[DoN_cz]

I've been as confused as you, so I rather did not click the "cancel subscription" button, then forgot about the auto-renewal date and now it seems I have paid for another year (which is OK, I would do it anyway, but maybe few days later)... But the strange thing is it cost me "only" 72 EUR, even though the full price is 90 EUR? Apparently it applied the same discount code (BLACKFRIDAY19) that I used last year. But I didnt see any black friday offers this year, strange.

[Steve Boyd]

I've been as confused as you, so I rather did not click the "cancel subscription" button, then forgot about the auto-renewal date and now it seems I have paid for another year (which is OK, I would do it anyway, but maybe few days later)... But the strange thing is it cost me "only" 72 EUR, even though the full price is 90 EUR? Apparently it applied the same discount code (BLACKFRIDAY19) that I used last year. But I didnt see any black friday offers this year, strange.
Well they designed a streaming service that isn't that reliable (according to the posts on here) so why should you be surprised they have a billing system that doesn't work the way you expect?

[the sniper]

I've been as confused as you, so I rather did not click the "cancel subscription" button, then forgot about the auto-renewal date and now it seems I have paid for another year (which is OK, I would do it anyway, but maybe few days later)... But the strange thing is it cost me "only" 72 EUR, even though the full price is 90 EUR? Apparently it applied the same discount code (BLACKFRIDAY19) that I used last year. But I didnt see any black friday offers this year, strange.

Lucky you. I forgot about the auto renew date last year and paid full price for this year, while I previously had a discounted rate. Paid full price for 6 rallies, as my subscription ran out before the last rally...

[tonis_t]

Anyway, system is not clear and transparent. Basically you should get the subscription and press cancel right away so that auto renewal would go off?

[TanelP]

It’s all written in terms and conditions of wrc+. Meaning You clearly didn’t read them when You signed up and subscribed...

[Franky]

It’s all written in terms and conditions of wrc+. Meaning You clearly didn’t read them when You signed up and subscribed...

Does the amount of people who actually read the terms and conditions exceed 1%?

[TanelP]

Unlikely. But it takes only one google search and couple minutes of reading to understand everything about billing, subscribing, cancelling etc.

https://www.wrc.com/en/footer/information/terms-and-conditions/

[Essaj]

The new pop-up ads are just tad bit annoying. C'mon we already pay for this :mad:

[AnttiL]

The new pop-up ads are just tad bit annoying. C'mon we already pay for this :mad:

+100

[AnttiL]

I advice everyone to put some feedback at support@service-plus.wrc.com about the ads

[Sulland]

"We are showing you all the action, instead of end of stage inteviews"
Fine, then they go to the women in the service park, and cut the show, just when some of the leading rally2 cars are coming.

They are now 4, 6 and 7 on this stage, talk about bad production, and not understanding what is important. This is not All Live, only some parts live!
Get Molly into the commentating, ant least she is a racing driver, have been Co driving, and lives with a multiple norwegian rally champion.

[AnttiK7]

I feel the direction too often lacks intuition and living in the moment. It sometimes feels to me like it's being directed by a bot.

Ogier has his windscreen badly misted: "Let's cut to Evans finishing the stage!"
Neuville damages his wheel : "Let's cut to Evans finishing the stage!"

etc, etc...

Something is wrong in the direction when you notice that rally after rally you are yelling at your computer "why did you cut away?!"

If something important is happening, it's ok if I don't see every single car starting and finishing the stage. I can live with that, no problem.

[EstWRC]

agreed

IMO this is the worst year ever with Allive

they get everything so wrong this year....and now i also completely agree with Colin and his article in dirstfish about the stage commentators being bad

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/153960/wrc-launches-own-channel-on-motorsporttv

[Sulland]

Becks was funny on radio, with Colin, when you need to fill the time on long productions.
But commentating on TV, in short bursts, then you need some understanding and experience to make the audience informed.
And for us petrolheads, you need rally experience to see and report on details, to educate and make it interessting,

Is Motorsport TV just sending the all-live stream, or do they use own commentators?

[AnttiL]

I agree that the directing has been quite bad, not showing the action when it happens and also this year they've often played the audio from a wrong car.

As for always showing the stage ends stubbornly, no matter what's going on, and also the stage starts, it could well be a contractual thing. The manufacturers pay a big sum to participate in the series, in return they would get a close zoom of their cars (and all the sponsor decals) for every stage they start. I know that it's not working for us as hardcore fans, but...

Also, we always only remember the negative aspects. This year they've had land cameras on quite many All Live stages, something that was unheard of in 2018, only on the TV stages. In addition, things like the picture and picture during the interviews and pure sound option have been added likely after customer requests (especially the latter, I know it for a fact).

[the sniper]

She's on WRC+ tonight so it's on topic, anyone else notice that Tamara Molinaro speaks English with quite discernible Irish accent now. Breen's rubbed off on her. :D

[Jewy46]

She's on WRC+ tonight so it's on topic, anyone else notice that Tamara Molinaro speaks English with quite discernible Irish accent now. Breen's rubbed off on her. :D

Noticed that too! We have quite an interesting take on the English language as it is :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Only having BT Sport Extra to watch all the action in Monza the lack of the no-commentary option has been horrible.

The constant non-stop talking is soooo annoying. Why dont they shut up and just comment at he start with any important info like tyres and then only talk when something unusual happens ?

I watched most of it with the sound off.

[seb_sh]

good points for wrc+ this year: no commentary option and picture in picture stage end interviews
bad points: stage end reporters are very "basic" seems that the questions are from a can and very boring

some cuts i can understand that they are maybe due to contractual obligations and helicopter limitations, overall i'm satisfied with the service, it's still a bit amazing to me that we can watch a full rally live wherever you are when years ago we just had splits and radio if you were lucky.

[AnttiL]

good points for wrc+ this year: no commentary option and picture in picture stage end interviews
bad points: stage end reporters are very "basic" seems that the questions are from a can and very boring

some cuts i can understand that they are maybe due to contractual obligations and helicopter limitations, overall i'm satisfied with the service, it's still a bit amazing to me that we can watch a full rally live wherever you are when years ago we just had splits and radio if you were lucky.

Yeah. Also worth considering that they lost Colin Clark from stage end interviews and Molly Pettit was on maternal leave for a good part of the season. However, they've once managed to put Seb Marshall on the job and he was awesome.

This season the stage end interviews have been horrible because of the masks and social distancing the drivers cannot hear the questions as much as normally.

[T16]

Yeah. Also worth considering that they lost Colin Clark from stage end interviews and Molly Pettit was on maternal leave for a good part of the season. However, they've once managed to put Seb Marshall on the job and he was awesome.

This season the stage end interviews have been horrible because of the masks and social distancing the drivers cannot hear the questions as much as normally.

I can’t understand why the stage end reporter doesn’t write / type one or two questions and show the driver a note pad / screen, so they can read and answer them.
The current set-up isn’t working.

[SubaruNorway]

You could really hear it on Molly yesterday she was screaming as loud as she could and Tänak still couldn't hear her, i think i saw this setup with a speaker close to the driver in F1? And in ear sound from the mic to the reporter so they can hear the driver can't be that hard to fix in 2020...

[Essaj]

Also they have managed to catch many crashes live this season :D

[Portimao]

Greensmith just had a huge crash and there wasn't even a replay. What a muppets.

[SubaruNorway]

Greensmith just had a huge crash and there wasn't even a replay. What a muppets.

There was, or you can just jump back

[Portimao]

And here we go again. Red flag, they could do some interviews, give us current status of an upcoming stages and what they do instead? Switch off and don't give a fuck.

[Franky]

And here we go again. Red flag, they could do some interviews, give us current status of an upcoming stages and what they do instead? Switch off and don't give a fuck.

Personally don't like how they've been doing it this year. I do understand that social distancing and everything set boundaries but why show the rotating map between stages? Recaps, previews, commentary, etc can be used to fill the gaps between the stages. I do understand that lunch break isn't filled but the gaps during the loop...

[AnttiL]

And here we go again. Red flag, they could do some interviews, give us current status of an upcoming stages and what they do instead? Switch off and don't give a fuck.

You can also put on previous stages or highlights by yourself...

[Franky]

Antti, essentially AllLive is a TV channel In the current form it's fine only, when following on the computer or tablet, but when on TV you prefer to have a continuous flow and not some "screensaver" rotating between the main elements of programme.

[AnttiL]

Antti, essentially AllLive is a TV channel In the current form it's fine only, when following on the computer or tablet, but when on TV you prefer to have a continuous flow and not some "screensaver" rotating between the main elements of programme.

I guess I view it differently because I never watch TV. Even when I watch a program from a TV channel, I'm using their online watch-when-you-want-services . But maybe TV and channels feeding material all the time is still a thing for some people :)

[Franky]

Live sports are all about "feeding material". E.g. repeating this weekend's broadcast exactly the same way a week later does not hold the same value as the live broadcast It's also the big reason why sports broadcasts still are big in ratings, while ratings in general have gone down with the market fragmentation.

[DoN_cz]

Is it just me or is there no way to find a specific onboard from the Android TV app? There just is no "onboards" section at all.

[linni]

Is it just me or is there no way to find a specific onboard from the Android TV app? There just is no "onboards" section at all.

Bottom ribbon -> More -> WRC+ - > Onboard

[DoN_cz]

Hmmm I see that ony my iPhone in the app, but no such option on TV. I assume you know the Android TV app is different to classic Android device app?

[linni]

Sorry, misread about the TV. Tizen TV app has all the features, unfortunately no idea about Android TV app.

[Eli]

Just saw the preview 'Magazine' for the season opener in Monte Carlo, and I have to say (I'm well aware this isn't the most important thing), what's up with that rubbish music they put in their programs, why can't we have stuff like we used to have here: https://youtu.be/VDRH6VKoczA?t=52

[tommeke_B]

A question for members who watch WRC+ on a smart tv. Is anyone doing this, if so, which brand of TV (which platform, like Android etc) are you using? And is it possible to watch all live through an app, or do you watch it via the browser? Considering buying a new tv, the top priority is, of course, watching WRC+ on it.

[bwallace]

I have older tv LG smart and older wrc+ app version was working but now not complitable with new verision so i dicide to by one off the tv stick( xiaomi android tv mi stick) 30 eu or some like that, but i also have new smart tv with completable with new wrc+ app version. and to answer your quostion yes is possible to watch all live with tv app.

[linni]

I have 2014 Samsung and the app is not working there anymore. I also have 2019 Samsung with Tizen opsystem and app runs there flawlessly.

[Paul Hudson]

Any Promo codes for WRC+ ?

[Kradovech]

A question for members who watch WRC+ on a smart tv. Is anyone doing this, if so, which brand of TV (which platform, like Android etc) are you using? And is it possible to watch all live through an app, or do you watch it via the browser? Considering buying a new tv, the top priority is, of course, watching WRC+ on it.

I have a 5 year old samsung and, same as linni, the app stopped working last year. Before that it was not working perfectly, I could not use all features.
Watching it on a browser is possible but inconvenient because the browser itself is not very good. And you can only get the live picture, no rewatching or anything else.
Right now I am mirroring the picture to TV from my smartphone app. Works perfectly, obvious downside is that I cannot use the phone at the same time. So I have the picture running on my PC as well as backup.

[cali]

Guys, TV's processors are weak anyways. Recommend to use external players like Apple TV 4K, Nvidia Shield Pro etc. Much better experience

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[MartijnS]

Casting with Chromecast is fine too.

[linni]

Guys, TV's processors are weak anyways.

Cannot quite confirm.

2014 Samsung top model H8000, WRC app when was still working ran quite good but not excellent. PON connection 200/200 mbps.

2019 Samsung 55" cheapest model on 4G connection 20/10 mbps runs smooth, fast and without any issues at all.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Casting with Chromecast is fine too.

Yes I got great quality that way.

But now I watch WRC All Live 'free' with BT Sport (and no internet lag). :)

[linni]

I prefer live studio stream on TV screen and split times running on laptop.

[AnttiL]

I prefer live studio stream on TV screen and split times running on laptop.

You can still do that with a Chromecast/AppleTV/etc

When I run my maximum setup I have a third device for twitter and forums :D but sometimes it’s good to just concentrate on the broadcast

[linni]

You can still do that with a Chromecast/AppleTV/etc

I understand.
But if my setup is running perfectly, why to invent something new?
Already old indians told - do not fix working thing :)

[cali]

Cannot quite confirm.

2014 Samsung top model H8000, WRC app when was still working ran quite good but not excellent. PON connection 200/200 mbps.

2019 Samsung 55" cheapest model on 4G connection 20/10 mbps runs smooth, fast and without any issues at all.It still is not as good as an external player with their processing. My tv runs all the apps but it's much snappier and smoother on my Nvidia Shield Pro. My tv is now set to just show the picture and all the processing is done by Shield which is way more powerful than a tv can be. If you like your tv it's fine too but just remember that external media players are offered for a reason.

This advice is given to me first by some tech guys who worked for a service center and I can confirm this with my user experience as for instance with Plex a lot of movies (4K HDR ATMOS etc) are lagging even on my LG OLED's. And you can free a lot of processing power from tv's processor. Just a food for a thought.




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[linni]

Yes, of course.

Just saying, mine works very well so far and no reason for any improvement.
I have also Roku connected to my TV set, but app runs not worse than the stream.

[Winner]

Yes I got great quality that way.

But now I watch WRC All Live 'free' with BT Sport (and no internet lag). :)

Are BT sport showing all stages live?

[AnttiL]

I understand.
But if my setup is running perfectly, why to invent something new?
Already old indians told - do not fix working thing :)

Yeah but just reminding other people that it's possible to do even if your Smart TV is not working with WRC+.

[EstWRC]

our TV station is also showing basically all the stages since last year, 11 stages from Monte will be broadcasted this year for example. (although you have to join a certain provider this year for it)

so its very comfy too look the stages from TV and all the rest from computer.

[cali]

our TV station is also showing basically all the stages since last year, 11 stages from Monte will be broadcasted this year for example. (although you have to join a certain provider this year for it)

so its very comfy too look the stages from TV and all the rest from computer.I have GO3 so problably will see all stages live from tv3 or tv6

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[EstWRC]

I have GO3 so problably will see all stages live from tv3 or tv6

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almost all, they were the ones i was talking about.

for some reason they dont have a permisson to show the first 3 stages of friday but those are the only ones that will not be shown.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Are BT sport showing all stages live?

The 'TV Stages' are live on one of their normal channels but WRC All Live will be on the red button (aka BT Sport Extra).

[svstock]

Estonian TV program
https://i.imgur.com/Ik4GP0B.png

TV3 Sport is extra 7 eur per month so WRC+ is more beneficial.

[AnttiL]

Finnish YLE shows also all the TV stages (1, 7, 11, 13 and 15) for free.

[Moriarty]

Any Promo codes for WRC+ ?
You can buy wrc+ subscription in russian appstore. Annual subscription costs 5999rubles ~67euro

[svstock]

Finnish YLE shows also all the TV stages (1, 7, 11, 13 and 15) for free.

sure we have it on cable here, but every sport broadcast gets not shown and message with some territorial bs. example. Eurosport's shows same things with no problem (skiing)

[cali]

Estonian TV program
https://i.imgur.com/Ik4GP0B.png

TV3 Sport is extra 7 eur per month so WRC+ is more beneficial.In GO3 the base subscription is 5 €/month (10 TV channels, which is good enough for me, I'm more of an Plex user myself), TV+Sport is 10 €/month with 37 channels incl all TV3 Sport HD channels, NBA TV, Setanta etc. I'm actually considering ditching AllLive bcs when many rallies will be cancelled I can have some return for my money spent. I didn't require refund from wrc+ about 2020 bcs everybody had a bad year, it was my way of supporting my favourite sport. But now I maybe do not want to continue with wrc+ as ewrc for results is more than good enough and I can get live action from GO3.

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

BT Sport schedule

https://www.bt.com/sport/watch/whats-on?competition=World%20Rally%20Championship

[T16]

Anyone got a promo code for WRC+ please?

[ceemic]

Anyone got a promo code for WRC+ please?

+1 :)

[Sulland]

Mads Østberg as a Expert Commentator in Monte. Not a bad idea!

[Mirek]

Solved, never mind.

[GigiGalliNo1]

You guys happy with the no commentary option?

[AnttiL]

You guys happy with the no commentary option?

I don't really understand who would need that. For me All Live is the opposite, more like a radio telling me what's going on in the rally even without looking. The car sounds from the onboards aren't great and I don't understand most of the co-driver languages.

Is it just me or have they emphasized this year zooming on the car sponsor decals between arriving to stop control and starting the stage end interview? They are not even zooming on tyres or possible damage, but the sponsor decals on the back and behind the rear side window.

[Franky]

That was already in Monza like that.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I don't really understand who would need that. For me All Live is the opposite, more like a radio telling me what's going on in the rally even without looking. The car sounds from the onboards aren't great and I don't understand most of the co-driver languages.

Is it just me or have they emphasized this year zooming on the car sponsor decals between arriving to stop control and starting the stage end interview? They are not even zooming on tyres or possible damage, but the sponsor decals on the back and behind the rear side window.

For me the fact you can hear the co-driver means listening to two co-commentators talking as well makes it ALL sound unclear and irritating.

Pure sound is great and you get split-times and other data on screen. You can flick on the comms only when you want it or if something happens.

[linni]

Is it just me or have they emphasized this year zooming on the car sponsor decals between arriving to stop control and starting the stage end interview? They are not even zooming on tyres or possible damage, but the sponsor decals on the back and behind the rear side window.

I noticed it a season ago already, but I will put it just on to the shaking hand of a hangover having cameraman. Because there is no way of a sub level advertisement here.

[RS]

Do Red Bull TV still show one stage live on their platform?

[Paul Hudson]

Is the words "For Sure" the new buzz words of WRC+ !!!

[T16]

Is the words "For Sure" the new buzz words of WRC+ !!!

For sure.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Do Red Bull TV still show one stage live on their platform?

Mike Chen is in Monte this weekend but the RBTV Feed is just the WRC 26 mins coverage.... so nothing new or like normal with what RBTV do which is a bummer.

[T16]

I don't really understand who would need that. For me All Live is the opposite, more like a radio telling me what's going on in the rally even without looking. The car sounds from the onboards aren't great and I don't understand most of the co-driver languages.

Is it just me or have they emphasized this year zooming on the car sponsor decals between arriving to stop control and starting the stage end interview? They are not even zooming on tyres or possible damage, but the sponsor decals on the back and behind the rear side window.

So, you use all live, but don't actually watch?

RE the sponsors - good - if it makes them happier or brings more in, then having cams on the decals can only help.

[Sulland]

Why did they cut the show so early on SS 12, they lost out on an exiting Rally2 fight. No journalistic fibers in that team?

[Paul Hudson]

Rally 2 cars setting top 10 times in SS12 a great battle and WRC Live have gone on a break missing all the action !!!!!

[Rally Hokkaido]

Why did they cut the show so early on SS 12, they lost out on an exiting Rally2 fight. No journalistic fibers in that team?
Mads said that they lost the feed from the stages, then.......telecast ended quite suddenly

[Paul Hudson]

Why did they cut the show so early on SS 12, they lost out on an exiting Rally2 fight. No journalistic fibers in that team?

They went for Breakfast !.

[EstWRC]

why dont they put all the onboards up?

For example Tänak is missing from SS1, SS2 and SS10 where he had second puncture (in which im very interested)....also other drivers are missing from some of the stages, i think i noticed this already last year.

[AnttiL]

Why did they cut the show so early on SS 12, they lost out on an exiting Rally2 fight. No journalistic fibers in that team?

The stage started late. Transmission time is not unlimited.

[AnttiL]

why dont they put all the onboards up?

For example Tänak is missing from SS1, SS2 and SS10 where he had second puncture (in which im very interested)....also other drivers are missing from some of the stages, i think i noticed this already last year.

Not all stages have onboards by all drivers. It could be a technical fault in the camera, possibly driver's request not to publish something...and also that one stage from Finland 2017 where Østberg had female fans, eh, cheering for him, doesn't have his onboard.

In that Tänak case, the onboard would be very long since he spent a long time on the stage.

[Portimao]

Their $9,99 hosting is out of capacity :D

[mknight]

I usually watch single onboards, but now wanted to see two in comparison mode, but can't find it? Did they remove it?

Probably last time I used it was 1,5 years ago.

[EstWRC]

yeah thats gone already since beginning of last year, i also really liked it

i used it a lot

[Erki]

Just how brain dead are the developers of the WRC+ phone app? Not only have they never offered an audio-only feed(correct me if I'm wrong and link please then!), now I can't even choose the video quality any more - it's only HD. Not only does it make my old Samsung heat up and slow down - but maybe most importantly - it hogs huge much of bandwidth!

As I'm on the road most of the day, I can't really watch the video anyway. So I'd just like an audio-only feed so I can just listen to it as if it's rally radio.

But no.

This just makes my blood boil.

I'm fuming.

I'm fuming just like Francois Delecour was fuming when his codriver misread a pace note.

Not nice.

[Portimao]

The exposure is too high, can't see any road in Finland now, just all blank white.

[Sulland]

No Rally2 cars at all, what are they smoking?
Is this what I am paying for.

Maybe it back to eWRC again, this is a joke.

[Lead]

Really, really shame about not showing Rally2 cars.

[SubaruNorway]

They had audio only in 2018, nice for driving between stages

[mknight]

Not very impressed by WRC+ today...

Cut-off after WRCs on both stages (in the past they used to go back to allive after the TV feed stopped).
No WRC2/3 interviews in media zone either.

And daily highlights didn't show neither Rovanperas off nor Loubets puncture.

[HarriK]

Yes, please put emails for them and tell them to show wrc2/3 top guys also on each stage!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Really, really shame about not showing Rally2 cars.

They didnt even show the 'extra' Fiesta WRC cars to compensate. Why is there such a time limit when WRC+ is an online service and could carry on after the TV coverage ends ?

[mknight]

No WRC2/3 friday highlights either.

[Portimao]

Reducing Heli and transmitting plane costs?

[er88]

They need to throw the chequebook at Mads. He's a natural.

However I'm sure he wants to still drive, so surely WRC+/AllLive could pay other inactive/ex drivers to step in for single events. Breen seems to do a lot of Reeces when he isn't competing, so could surely do commentary/analysis. Sordo maybe too, Kris Meeke, or any other retired driver.

[tommeke_B]

Sordo does it quite often for the Spanish commentary of WRC+.

[dupanton]

In English, it would be "berry" good as well :)

[dimviii]

They need to throw the chequebook at Mads. He's a natural.

However I'm sure he wants to still drive, so surely WRC+/AllLive could pay other inactive/ex drivers to step in for single events. Breen seems to do a lot of Reeces when he isn't competing, so could surely do commentary/analysis. Sordo maybe too, Kris Meeke, or any other retired driver.

Mads is the best imho.
One reason for me is that he speaks English in a way that i can understand very easy.
For example Meeke for me is much more difficult.