Wrc+

[KiwiWRCfan]

I have no splits on the tracking map. Is it only here or has everyone the same problem?

To get driver speeds on tracking maps follow these steps

1 click on a car number on map or click on driver name in right hand margin. This will bring up a photo of driver and co-driver in upper left corner of tracking map

2 Look to left and right of the photos for a left or right facing arrow head. Click on this arrow head and the photos will disappear and be replaced by data including drivers car speed


To get split times

1 look for "spanner" symbol near top right hand corner of tracking map. Click on this symbol

2 look for a stop watch symbol and click on the stop watch.

pic.twitter.com/CxEhjCG5D9

3 When split times appear they show only one split point at a time. All drivers are shown at that split point.

4 to see other split points there are arrow to take you from split 1 to split 2 to split 3 etc

There is also a feature under driver times where you can choose 1 other driver to compare your drivers splits against. e.g. I have been following Hayden Paddon and choose to use Elfyn Evans as a suitable comparison driver

[dupanton]

To get driver speeds on tracking maps follow these steps

1 click on a car number on map or click on driver name in right hand margin. This will bring up a photo of driver and co-driver in upper left corner of tracking map

2 Look to left and right of the photos for a left or right facing arrow head. Click on this arrow head and the photos will disappear and be replaced by data including drivers car speed


To get split times

1 look for "spanner" symbol near top right hand corner of tracking map. Click on this symbol

2 look for a stop watch symbol and click on the stop watch.

pic.twitter.com/CxEhjCG5D9

3 When split times appear they show only one split point at a time. All drivers are shown at that split point.

4 to see other split points there are arrow to take you from split 1 to split 2 to split 3 etc

There is also a feature under driver times where you can choose 1 other driver to compare your drivers splits against. e.g. I have been following Hayden Paddon and choose to use Elfyn Evans as a suitable comparison driver

Thanks a lot! First thing works (comparing 2 drivers), but seeing all the splits in 1 screen, nothing comes on my screen...

[dupanton]

Edit: works with other browser :)

[AL14]

How about this one?
Maybe too much wide-angle lens? But at least you see the road better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACCdtYu3V9w

[Fast Eddie WRC]

At the weekend there were nearly 10 hours LIVE on-board from Sander Pärn/James Morgan Fiesta R5 at Võrumaa Talveralli via YouTube !

Replay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-xqm0R-1nk&feature=youtu.be

Seemed to work really well. Something for WRC+ to do in the future with for WRC drivers ?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-hS_nUIMAAuqeZ.jpg:large

[Franky]

The mobile networks would need serious upgrading to handle all the traffic.

[mousti]

WRC+ interface has changed and on the maps you can't see difference between road section and SS ...

[Mariusz]

You don't see that red overlay for SS?
I looks that the new interface prefers high resolution screens. I like that current speed is visible for all drivers. The only thing that sometimes confuses me is that retired drivers are displayed together with the ones who are running without rally2, but I imagine it may be tricky for the system to quickly know who is retired. But maybe a switch somewhere to not display retired drivers in Stage Times, Split Times and Drivers window would help.

[stefanvv]

I like the new interface better, it is more informative and compact

[mousti]

You don't see that red overlay for SS?
I looks that the new interface prefers high resolution screens. I like that current speed is visible for all drivers. The only thing that sometimes confuses me is that retired drivers are displayed together with the ones who are running without rally2, but I imagine it may be tricky for the system to quickly know who is retired. But maybe a switch somewhere to not display retired drivers in Stage Times, Split Times and Drivers window would help.
Seems mine was bugged for the long SS4 will see if it's the same next SS.

[HarriK]

WRC+ Norf2015 incars/pov films are not smooth as should be? Videos are jamming a little bit.

[EstWRC]

watched them yesterday and didnt have a problem, worked well.

[makinen_fan]

For any users of Amazon Fire TV, WRC+ is available there from now
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/august/smart-tv-app/page/2711--12-12-.html

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC+ and TV have only ONE live stage for Rally Germany (SS21, PS) ... poor effort. :(

[AndyRAC]

What is the reason for the lack of live coverage? Pretty poor effort that - it is 2015, they have to do better!

[EstWRC]

if i remember correctly there was an agreement this season that every rally has to do 3 stages live, i dont know how germany got past this, in finland there were two stages live i think?

[AL14]

if i remember correctly there was an agreement this season that every rally has to do 3 stages live, i dont know how germany got past this, in finland there were two stages live i think?

They must have only power stage live. 3 are mandatory. It's not promoter and wrc+ fault. It's something up to the organization but I'm pretty sure next year will be better.
They're counting a lot on wrc+ and I think they're doing a very good job in a promotion/communication point of view. wrc+ is a big step forward for the sport.

[Rallyper]

WRC+ map of SS1 is opposite direction :)

[itix]

Yeah and no splits what so ever... Quite annoying. Usually it works really well for me but not that stage :/

[maciotacio]

We have got some new names in wrc
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM6zSiuWIAA831l.jpg:large

[AL14]

we have got some new names in wrc
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/cm6zsiuwiaa831l.jpg:large

lol!

[itix]

We have got some new names in wrc
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CM6zSiuWIAA831l.jpg:large

No complaining, at least you have splits! hahaha
I have none.

Yeah ok, you don't know which split belongs to who, but still better than me!

[AL14]

If they want WRC+ to be an asset it should work a bit better. It is a great product and I can imagine how difficult it is not to have problems with gps datas, all different devices and so on but it's not like reaching the moon. Ok if they miss some split or other small stuff but SS3 will start from chess flag, that is silly.

[itix]

SS3 AND SS1... cmon guys and gals -_-

[Eli]

for some reason the drivers are mixed up, like number 3 car being Neuville...

[RS]

What is the reason for the lack of live coverage? Pretty poor effort that - it is 2015, they have to do better!

It is when you have to pay for it. I don't think i'll bother next year.

[AL14]

I think they will have to change next year. Power Stage is good to be live because it is the last one but out of 13 rounds it will be exciting 2 or 3 times.
They should give more coverage on friday or saturday morning stages when battles are on most of the time.
And I mean real stages, not silly super specials.

[rallyfiend]

Doing other stages during the rally is difficult.

The cars run in Championship order, so they get slower and more boring throughout the programme....

[AL14]

Doing other stages during the rally is difficult.

The cars run in Championship order, so they get slower and more boring throughout the programme....

You are right, I didn't think about it. Honestly, they should change that rule and go back to 2014. Ogier wins anyway and with reapeted stages and rally2 it does not affect too much frontrunners speed. It's just an excuse to make Ogier moan everytime..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

They definately need to show more proper stages... the spectator stages are ok for those attending live but they are rubbish on TV and they dont give a correct image of real rallying.

[itix]

They definately need to show more proper stages... the spectator stages are ok for those attending live but they are rubbish on TV and they dont give a correct image of real rallying.

Couldn't agree more, but yet another show of the promoter's laziness. They pick the shortest stage to cover so that they don't have to bring so much camera equipment and not so many people... which really doesn't make sense in my mind because they already have the people and the equipment there so it shouldn't be impossible to cover also a long stage. Sure, you have to cover many cars running at the same time but I really can't see the reason for all this laziness.

One would expect that you take a job at the promoter for the love of the sport, in which case trotting around in bushes and undergrowth to get to stages should not be new to you. It seems instead that they took it for the love of sitting around and scratching their asses.

[AndyRAC]

No promoter does it for the love of the sport; they’re in it to make money. Do as little for maximum return. Most promoters in motorsport just sell TV rights…..they do very little promotion. And then wonder why more people aren’t watching. Hmm…

[AL14]

Rally Australia is not yet started and according to live maps the first in championship ranking Neuville has already started, first on the road, 12 minutes ago. Followed by runner up Evans, then Meeke and others in complete nonsense order.

I'm losing my hope to see this thing working decently.

EDIT: They fixed it now.

[stefanvv]

how's that for a photo?
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Australien/Berichterstattung/2015/2015-09-10_shakedown/886x498_vw-20150910-4280.jpg

[dodge33cymru]

A couple of one month WRC+ promo codes below if anyone wants them. I can't guarantee they'll work but it says they're eligible until the end of the year:

MIA3BS6F

KOP2LTU4

I got them from VW's Twitter but both went into my spam box and just found them.

[N.O.T]

how's that for a photo?
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Australien/Berichterstattung/2015/2015-09-10_shakedown/886x498_vw-20150910-4280.jpg

crap crop rather than a photo.

[tc10a]

Having in this Weekends Tour de Corse again only the powerstage live at WRC+ makes it a joke.
At least one stage per day should be mandatory for every wrc Event in 2016!

[rallyace]

Having in this Weekends Tour de Corse again only the powerstage live at WRC+ makes it a joke.
At least one stage per day should be mandatory for every wrc Event in 2016!

I would love to be able to select and watch live onboards from each stage (or at least a few select ones). That would put a shadow over the fact that only one SS is broadcast live from this week's event.

Could someone explain the difficulty of this? Broadcasting live on WRC+ from perhaps 4 or 5 select onboard cameras on a handful of select stages would be much appreciated by the fans. :champion:

[itix]

I would love to be able to select and watch live onboards from each stage (or at least a few select ones). That would put a shadow over the fact that only one SS is broadcast live from this week's event.

Could someone explain the difficulty of this? Broadcasting live on WRC+ from perhaps 4 or 5 select onboard cameras on a handful of select stages would be much appreciated by the fans. :champion:

THIS ^

The camera is there and require no personnel to handle it, and I can't see that the technology will be massively difficult to implement. They have it in many other motor sports, and ok, that this is on a short range merry-go-round track where cars do the same 1 - 20 bends for hours but I can't see why you can't broadcast onboard imagery from a stage with all the 4G and whatnot these days!

[litifeta]

trying to upload from a camera in a car to a distant mobile tower is very problematic. For the images to be usable they need to be of a sufficient size which creates a huge need for bandwidth.

[Googol]

Hmm, I replied yesterday but apparently mods never approved it.

The stages usually run in pretty remote areas, so mobile connections simply don't work well enough (yet). Especially as they get blocked by the fans if they work. I think some privateer tried that in Monte 2-3 years ago, but most of the time it didn't work.

For broadcasting normally you would need a helicopter above every car you want to broadcast, a plane above everything and a satellite connection. So that would be even more expensive than a normal live stage with 1 or 2 helicopters.

[b3637853]

Hmm, I replied yesterday but apparently mods never approved it.

The stages usually run in pretty remote areas, so mobile connections simply don't work well enough (yet). Especially as they get blocked by the fans if they work. I think some privateer tried that in Monte 2-3 years ago, but most of the time it didn't work.

For broadcasting normally you would need a helicopter above every car you want to broadcast, a plane above everything and a satellite connection. So that would be even more expensive than a normal live stage with 1 or 2 helicopters.

Also there is need to supervise the onboards. Broadcast should have to be delayed by at least 1-2 minutes so if something really bad happens the supervisor could put them offline.

[AL14]

Hmm, I replied yesterday but apparently mods never approved it.

The stages usually run in pretty remote areas, so mobile connections simply don't work well enough (yet). Especially as they get blocked by the fans if they work. I think some privateer tried that in Monte 2-3 years ago, but most of the time it didn't work.

For broadcasting normally you would need a helicopter above every car you want to broadcast, a plane above everything and a satellite connection. So that would be even more expensive than a normal live stage with 1 or 2 helicopters.

Thanks for the explanation Googol. So, when we see live onboard during live stages it is possible only because of an helicopter or something else above or near that car?

[Googol]

That's my understanding. If you google (apparently I can't post links with so few posts) "how the tour de france is broadcast" there should be a cyclingtips link about how Tour de France is broadcast. If you place onboard cameras in place of camera motorcycles I think that's pretty much how rally is broadcast.

Tour de France has riders usually in 1-2 pretty compact positions so they need only 2 relay helicopters, but in rally each car can be 2-5 km from each other, so I have no idea if 1 helicopter could be used for 2 cars for example.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I see WRC+ has taken my payment for December (I forgot to cancel after WRGB) ... but at least I have been able to watch the video 'Colin McRae - Early Years' which I haven't seen before. :)

Some excellent footage which I dont remember from the other McRae videos I've got.. and some of the on-boards are amazing ! :eek:

Well worth a view for his 20th Anniversary.

https://plus.wrc.com/highlights/all/370/colin-mcrae-early-years/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Great... WRC+ is now free for 30 days ! :(

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/december-2015/wrc+-for-free!-/page/3064--12-12-.html

[N.O.T]

just registered...

you mean there are people who actually pay for such service ??? LoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL its atrocious !!

[tommeke_B]

I have it only for the onboard videos, it's useful to see onboards from the years before when you prepare to visit rallies. Apart from that it's certainly not worth it's money, indeed.

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Even better if you have IDM.. :P

[N.O.T]

I have it only for the onboard videos, it's useful to see onboards from the years before when you prepare to visit rallies. Apart from that it's certainly not worth it's money, indeed.

Some onboards are available through youtube, the quality of the image is ridiculously low, i doubt its 420p even. If it was a free service it would be acceptable, but to pay for quality standards that were not even acceptable in the 90s is a farce. Camera position is shit, quality is shit and interface is shit !!! when you get onboard footage with superior quality from privateers it is unacceptable that the OFFICIAL promoter of THE BEST MOTORSPORT in world cannot reproduce them at least.

They even have a camera to point at the drivers face ? are they doing this on purpose or they are that useless ??? I would really like to see who thought of this and the brainstorming session that ensued...

- Ok guys we need to talk camera angles
- What about pointing the camera to the face of a sweating, lip bitting man all the time moving his hands erratically without the specator knowing how the car reacts ?
- Dammit Gary you nailed it son !!!!! Give this man a voucher for a free lobotomy...

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

My verdict:
1. All the videos are available in flv format. (using Internet Download Manager v6.25 build 8 to downloaded it)
2. Onboard videos only have two options. (one of it is 528p)
3. No 2013 highlights & live stages.
4. We can't see some of the onboards (ex: Mikko's final stage (last year) & JML's epic run (several weeks ago)).

[N.O.T]

My verdict

1. I would rather spend my money on rusted nails

[mousti]

This how an onboard should be on WRC+!

http://youtu.be/QxVB8PKwefw

[Odzi3]

I can't help but feel disappointed by the WRC+ quality. I made an account here just because this is one of the only places a Google search finds discussing it.

I'm in America and I don't have a whole lot of ways to watch it so I feel sorta forced into the subscription. I was a bit shocked by the resolution, the image distortion and the low frames per second. Just sort of a bummer all around. It'll suffice I guess but is there a reason why the quality is the way it is? Do they just need to spend more money on better tech or is there other reasons based on location or whatever else that is hindering them?

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

And some of the onboards are uncomplete (Kubica's Ouninpohja1, Loeb's SS1) and being skipped (Loeb's SS13 & 15).

[AL14]

I've discovered only one month ago that when I get the annual subscription they didn't automatically delete the monthly one I had. So I've been charged all the time 5€/month even if I had already paid the entire year.

I wrote them in the middle of december, they asked me to give them a screenshot of my payments. I gave them all they needed but they didn't replied anymore.

It is a shame. I wait another week for my reimbursement and I will not subscribe anymore until they give me my money back. And I'm wondering if it is worth subscribe again in any case. If they will not answer anymore it means they did not understand how the world works, because I'm writing my experience here and in other forums I'm a member, as well as social media etc...
To save 40€ they will lose more.

[nafpaktos]

whatever you will do,you will have to wait one year not to make new subscription.how many times they charged you 5e/month??i think your problem will be solved.i faced a similar problem i contact them and they gave me the reimbursement.

[EightGear]

Btw, they published a fan survey concerning WRC+ yesterday........

....



........

....with 0 questions about the quality of the current product.

[nafpaktos]

Almost all the questions were like this <are you willing to pay for this,are you willing to pay for that,are you willing to pay for.......>
RIDICULUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amateurs,they dont care at all about the product,they care only if we are willing to pay for online services.
Ash@@##$$4

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Btw, they published a fan survey concerning WRC+ yesterday........

....



........

....with 0 questions about the quality of the current product.
That's sucks..

[EightGear]

Almost all the questions were like this <are you willing to pay for this,are you willing to pay for that,are you willing to pay for.......>
RIDICULUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Amateurs,they dont care at all about the product,they care only if we are willing to pay for online services.
Ash@@##$$4
Yes, indeed. I was waiting for some questions about the current product but there were none. There wasn't even room for some concluding remarks at the end.

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Can we expecting too much disagree/strongly disagree polling in the survey..?

[AndyRAC]

For the money you pay, you should expect a far more polished and professional product that works. As it is I won't be paying for it.

[AL14]

whatever you will do,you will have to wait one year not to make new subscription.how many times they charged you 5e/month??i think your problem will be solved.i faced a similar problem i contact them and they gave me the reimbursement.

They charged me nearly one year.
You know, it's not a matter of money, it's a matter of professionalism and reliability. It is logical that if I subscribe annually my monthly subscription should end. But ok, it can be a mistake of the system or a bug somewhere, it can happen, but if I make you notice it you can't make me wait one month and more to reimburse me and not answer to my emails.
You are the promoter of a world championship, not a start-up with no budget built up by some nerds who don't have the time to eat.

[PLuto]

But ok, it can be a mistake of the system or a bug somewhere, it can happen, but if I make you notice it you can't make me wait one month and more to reimburse me and not answer to my emails.

Sorry, this is not mistake of the system or a bug, this is their business model. It was written somewhere in agreements that you are subscribed automatically each month until you cancel this subscription. You are not only one who has similar problems...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I don't think they should charge for December when there was no WRC event. I'm going to cancel after Monte Carlo.

[RS]

I've cancelled mine already. I've just taken BT Sport so i will get the tv stuff for free, but I would have cancelled WRC+ anyway. Not paying for one stage per event and only 10 cars.

[RAS007]

I've cancelled mine already.....Not paying for one stage per event and only 10 cars.

This^^^. I just cancelled mine also.

[tc10a]

Using WRC+ mainly via the WRC+ APP on Amazon Fire TV the quality on the big TV Screen is very good and HD for the live stages, highlight shows etc. Also the onboards look not much worse.

With no access to tv channels, which would show the live-stages, its a very good deal and more than worth the money. What is the alternative ? (Not to mention any of those shitty illegal streaming sites.)
There could always be some improvement, but hey it costs about 17 Cents a day!

And the onboard archive is also the best source to find new spots for the next year on this stages.

The app: http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/august/smart-tv-app/page/2711--12-12-.html

[dodge33cymru]

Where's the survey?

[Mariusz]

Where's the survey?
wrc.com (http://www.wrc.com), second news which redirects to the survey on google docs.
I haven't extended the subscription because there is no confirmation about Kubica, but I liked the live maps and live stages in good quality. The product is not perfect but it's the best package that you can get anyway.

[AL14]

Sorry, this is not mistake of the system or a bug, this is their business model. It was written somewhere in agreements that you are subscribed automatically each month until you cancel this subscription. You are not only one who has similar problems...

Yes, it is not. I'm well aware. What I wanted to say is that the delay of their response (not yet arrived) and the unreliability are much worse than the fact that they kept my other subscription on for any reason.
I think it is more important that they communicate in a decent way with their subscribers than their business model.

The fact that others are having similar problems just make things worse because, I repeat, it seems these guys don't know how world works nowadays.

[dodge33cymru]

Wow, you're right, that's an awful survey, from basic things like grammar to the idea that it doesn't look like they want to develop or improve anything at all.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Torrents from the last two or three years of the WRC have been either Clean Feed (No Watermarks) daily highlights and hour wrap up or network watermarked uploads.

All in 1080 or 720, you can download what you wish. And always up online following the broadcast. Perfect for someone like me in Australia where WRC is not shown on Free To Air but it is shown on satellite tv but I don't want to pay $20 extra a month for 5-8 sports channels to watch one weekend of sport a month... When I don't watch anything else! WRC+ is perfect and so are the torrents

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@OfficialWRC: Two DJI drones in Rallye Monte Carlo - images should be spectacular!

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/january-2016/dji-deal/page/3133--12-12-.html

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYmwbLpWEAAUEP_.jpg:large

I wonder if these will give any live footage on WRC+ ...

[Franky]

Those things are slow for motorsport. Think more of beauty shots.

[AL14]

Those things are slow for motorsport. Think more of beauty shots.
Those things are dangerous in crowded places like spectators areas.

[Franky]

Those things are dangerous in crowded places like spectators areas.

They can be, but so is the camera helicopter. Will see what they manage to film, but I don't have my hopes too high.

[MartijnS]

They were in Germany already. We were at the spot of the first two shots in the video. Pretty fast equipment!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFW-MgnHeJc

[Franky]

If Skynamic will be operating those drones as well, then there might be some nice beauty shots. They also did the drone work for VW videos a few years back and got a decent automotive showreel.

But drone footage should be regarded like action camera footage - never too much or you may ruin the value of those shots.

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Does anyone get another free subscription code after taking the survey..?

[Barreis]

What do you think how many subscribers do they have? More then 10k? More then 100k?

[GigiGalliNo1]

Less than 5k
Have you seen their market? Where can people not watch?

[tc10a]

For sure far more than 100k.

[tc10a]

Less than 5k
Have you seen their market? Where can people not watch?

Update for you: WRC+ is available worldwide without any geographical restrictions.

see: https://plus.wrc.com/support/faq/

[N.O.T]

it would be nice to have an actual number from an official source, it is always nice to see the percentage of mentally inferior people in a group of fans.

[itix]

I'm happy that you, mr faultless grumpy dude, who are so quick to judge everyone, have better ways.

Some here work for a living and in my case that means spending great amount of time at sea so if I want to watch the rallies that's gone by when I was at the boat I have very little choice.

Even if I was shore based I have very little choice in sweden where I live... It is broadcast by state TV only and only the event highlights.

...so maybe before you open your opinion blabbering mouth next time, think for 10 minutes more.

For me who don't watch TV and don't pay for an upgrade TV package it is an excellent service.

[N.O.T]

I'm happy that you, mr faultless grumpy dude, who are so quick to judge everyone, have better ways.

Some here work for a living and in my case that means spending great amount of time at sea so if I want to watch the rallies that's gone by when I was at the boat I have very little choice.

Even if I was shore based I have very little choice in sweden where I live... It is broadcast by state TV only and only the event highlights.

...so maybe before you open your opinion blabbering mouth next time, think for 10 minutes more.

For me who don't watch TV and don't pay for an upgrade TV package it is an excellent service.

you have a point but how many people are using WRC+ for a practical reason ? i doubt its more than 5% of the subscriber base.

[AL14]

Nobody cares about who subscribe it, better talk to the service itself.
BTW I think they have at least 10k, otherwise it would not be there anymore.

[N.O.T]

Nobody cares about who subscribe it

but that is the problem, if you have hordes of headless chickens as fans subscribing to a shit service then the patrician fans like myself are the ones getting screwed.

[AL14]

but that is the problem, if you have hordes of headless chickens as fans subscribing to a shit service then the patrician fans like myself are the ones getting screwed.

That's not how product management works nowadays... The problem is not that you don't know it, but the fact that the promoter doesn't.

[EightGear]

That's not how product management works nowadays... The problem is not that you don't know it, but the fact that the promoter doesn't.
That's exactly what he means.

[Mariusz]

Do you know anything better than wrc+?

[mousti]

Do you know anything better than wrc+?

No but if it's rubbish it's not worthy to pay for it either.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5 met Tapatalk

[AL14]

That's exactly what he means.

No, because the problem is not that "hordes" of people pay for it and so it will remain a mediocre service. It is a bad service because the promoter has no idea about how to deliver a better product that would assure him even more customers.

NOT and the promoter are both wrong but for two different reasons. (IMHO)

[N.O.T]

Do you know anything better than wrc+?

that's is a foul logic, its like accepting to listen to nicky minaj just because there are no other bands around.

[stefanvv]

No, because the problem is not that "hordes" of people pay for it and so it will remain a mediocre service. It is a bad service because the promoter has no idea about how to deliver a better product that would assure him even more customers.

NOT and the promoter are both wrong but for two different reasons. (IMHO)

I agree with You. Though the service seem improving in some ways, but I still don't understand that stupid camera position, that will hardly incline some more to subscribe for it.

[EightGear]

No, because the problem is not that "hordes" of people pay for it and so it will remain a mediocre service. It is a bad service because the promoter has no idea about how to deliver a better product that would assure him even more customers.

NOT and the promoter are both wrong but for two different reasons. (IMHO)
I'm not sure. What's the incentive for change when people who subscribe to it basically don't really care about the quality? And the promotor is happy with the number of subscribers? It's not like they seem to care about the quality of their product improving...

For me personally WRC+ is the only option of highlights, there's 0 on TV, noting at all. I recently cancelled since I found myself barely watching the programmes anyways. Besides, I always forget about the full event highlights which get uploaded on the Red Bull site after each event. So I guess that's where I'm heading for now.

[AL14]

Do you know anything better than wrc+?

Then I could ask you if you know anything worse ;)

[N.O.T]

No, because the problem is not that "hordes" of people pay for it and so it will remain a mediocre service. It is a bad service because the promoter has no idea about how to deliver a better product that would assure him even more customers.

NOT and the promoter are both wrong but for two different reasons. (IMHO)

although i am never wrong when it comes to rallying i will try to explain my reasoning, because i am above all a graceful god.

What WRC+ does is offering a shit service for a ridiculously low price, i believe they bet on the fact that it is easier to lure 100 people to pay 1 yen for a useless product than to risk having 10 people pay 10 yens, because it is easier to sell shit to a million plebeians with low standards than sell a premium service for a premium price to 10 knowledgeable people with high standards.

and above all they bet to people like Mariusz who are willing to accept everything because there is no alternative.

[Mariusz]

No but if it's rubbish it's not worthy to pay for it either.
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It may be rubbish for you, but it's not for others who see a value in it.

[AL14]

I'm not sure. What's the incentive for change when people who subscribe to it basically don't really care about the quality?

Who tell you they don't care about quality? You and me can't know it. They can with some user research, but it's enough a quick look to their useless questionary to understand they don't have a clue of what a user research is.


And the promotor is happy with the number of subscribers?
Again, this is an assumption. Maybe it is right but I doubt. In a capitalistic world you are never happy with numbers if they are not the most high number possible.


For me personally WRC+ is the only option of highlights, there's 0 on TV, noting at all. I recently cancelled since I found myself barely watching the programmes anyways. Besides, I always forget about the full event highlights which get uploaded on the Red Bull site after each event. So I guess that's where I'm heading for now.

You see? You are a lost customer because they don't deliver what you would like. I cancelled because they stealed me money and their customer service is worse than the one of the butcher under my home.
BTW I too I don't think it is "shit" but it's mediocre and has a very huge potential...

[AL14]

although i am never wrong when it comes to rallying i will try to explain my reasoning, because i am above all a graceful god.

What WRC+ does is offering a shit service for a ridiculously low price, i believe they bet on the fact that it is easier to lure 100 people to pay 1 yen for a useless product than to risk having 10 people pay 10 yens, because it is easier to sell shit to a million plebeians with low standards than sell a premium service for a premium price to 10 knowledgeable people with high standards.

Nobody is questioning your godness in rallying. But yes, you're far from being a god in business.
If you were right saying that "it's easier to sell for 1 yen to 100 people than for 10 yen to 10 people", Apple would be in bankrupt, Google a far memory and you were not able to write this from a smartphone.

[EightGear]

Who tell you they don't care about quality? You and me can't know it. They can with some user research, but it's enough a quick look to their useless questionary to understand they don't have a clue of what a user research is.


Again, this is an assumption. Maybe it is right but I doubt. In a capitalistic world you are never happy with numbers if they are not the most high number possible.



You see? You are a lost customer because they don't deliver what you would like. I cancelled because they stealed me money and their customer service is worse than the one of the butcher under my home.
BTW I too I don't think it is "shit" but it's mediocre and has a very huge potential...

They are indeed assumptions, but I feel there are enough indicators to assume these things. Like you say, their questionnaire was pretty shit. When you care about the quality, then a survey like that is the perfect opportunity to ask people about the quality, isn't it?

People also keep complaining about the onboard camera position (which remains my biggest 'problem' as well), it's hard to imagine they haven't noticed it by now. But so far nothing has changed.

I'll admit it's purely my own feeling but I somehow feel they don't really care and have gone into the cheap direction NOT described.

I agree with you about the potential, and whilst I don't thinks it's shit I feel I've seen enough of it for now to cancel.

[N.O.T]

Nobody is questioning your godness in rallying. But yes, you're far from being a god in business.
If you were right saying that "it's easier to sell for 1 yen to 100 people than for 10 yen to 10 people", Apple would be in bankrupt, Google a far memory and you were not able to write this from a smartphone.

you are using examples of companies that have a very broad market to sell their things.

How many are the dedicated rally fans in the world ? 1 million ? maybe less than that even.

And your example works both ways, apple and google gambled and won, the WRC acts like an obscure chinese manufacturing company for the moment selling shit quality products to a large number of people.

[Mariusz]

and above all they bet to people like Mariusz who are willing to accept everything because there is no alternative.
They weren't forcing me to pay for it and for my needs it was good enough to shell out a few Euro per month.

[AL14]

you are using examples of companies that have a very broad market to sell their things.

How many are the dedicated rally fans in the world ? 1 million ? maybe less than that even.

And your example works both ways, apple and google gambled and won, the WRC acts like an obscure chinese manufacturing company for the moment selling shit quality products to a large number of people.

WRC IS a broad market, not as much as Apple of course but as you said it has a large number of potential customers from different countries. So the basic of my reasoning is the same. I completely agree with you about how WRC acts; that is what I wanted to say actually, it's their fault, not subscribers.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The question is, if nobody subscribed to WRC+ as it wasn't good enough for them (in whatever way) would they:

1. Vastly improve the service or
2. Just end the service... ?

I think the latter.

[stefanvv]

Apple didn't gamble anything. Its success is solely Steve Jobs artistic approach to this business. May be the promoter can learn something from it....

[AL14]

it's hard to imagine they haven't noticed it by now.

It's hard but apparently they have. Moving a camera is not a matter of budget. If they did not do it it means they did not spent half a day to read rally forums threads all over the Europe where they would have found the camera issue (and believe me almost every rally forum talks about it and almost everyone agree to move the camera a bit behind).

When it comes to this kind of people they are usually old guys that ask some friend's agency to build a web application, the agency is an outdated one because it used to get customers because of their friends and not thanks to their quality and these are the results.
Some other times the agency is a serious one but the old guys are too full of themself to take some good advice and these are the results.

[AL14]

Apple didn't gamble anything. Its success is solely Steve Jobs artistic approach to this business. May be the promoter can learn something from it....

Agree, neither Apple or Google gambled, they were sure about their product and visions.

[Mariusz]

Agree, neither Apple or Google gambled, they were sure about their product and visions.
I guess you never checked how many Google products failed. They do it all the time, they throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks.

[AL14]

I guess you never checked how many Google products failed. They do it all the time, they throw stuff at the wall and see what sticks.

We are OT, but we all meant Google as the whole company, not their policy with their projects. ;)

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

I'm happy that you, mr faultless grumpy dude, who are so quick to judge everyone, have better ways.

Some here work for a living and in my case that means spending great amount of time at sea so if I want to watch the rallies that's gone by when I was at the boat I have very little choice.

Even if I was shore based I have very little choice in sweden where I live... It is broadcast by state TV only and only the event highlights.

...so maybe before you open your opinion blabbering mouth next time, think for 10 minutes more.

For me who don't watch TV and don't pay for an upgrade TV package it is an excellent service.
And my only problem is I didn't have credit card.. :p

[Fast Eddie WRC]

One thing I really wish WRC+ would provide is the option to have pure sound on the live stages.

To be able to hear just the cars or the co-driver would be brilliant.

So sick of crap commentators telling me stuff and spoiling the whole thing. :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

This fan vid shows all the sounds we miss: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU6ERtPCKIU

[Allyc85]

Anyone having issues with losing sound on the onboards? Especially with Meeke?

[stefanvv]

Anyone having issues with losing sound on the onboards? Especially with Meeke?

yes, no sound on his onboard

[EstWRC]

same with Tänak

[dupanton]

Same with Neuville, Mikkelsen...
And they don't seem to upload onboards where something happen, or they cut it from the onboard... Like Mikkelsen spin on SS7, Ogier hitting a bridge on SS4, Lefebvre trip through a field on SS8.

[Simmi]

The audio on the Monte onboards last year was garbage too.

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

The audio on the Monte onboards last year was garbage too.
Second loop of day 1 stages only.

[PLuto]

I must say that regarding Monte I am disappointed with WRC+ and live coverage, again...

[AndyRAC]

I must say that regarding Monte I am disappointed with WRC+ and live coverage, again...

No live stages during Friday & Saturday. Why not?? The event was virtually over when they had the live stages today. I'm sorry, but they're not doing enough.

[RS]

No live stages during Friday & Saturday. Why not?? The event was virtually over when they had the live stages today. I'm sorry, but they're not doing enough.

It was also quite boring. I don't know if it's the way they edit it, or the camera positions or what, but I didn't particularly enjoy this weekend's coverage. Glad I'm not paying for it anymore.

[mousti]

I must say that regarding Monte I am disappointed with WRC+ and live coverage, again...

Reason why I didn't extend. Onboard position sucks + quality. It was advertised they would do 3 live SS every rally, not furfilled + lot of mickey Mouse stages. Etc.

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[stefanvv]

Reason why I didn't extend. Onboard position sucks + quality. It was advertised they would do 3 live SS every rally, not furfilled + lot of mickey Mouse stages. Etc.

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3 live stages isn't that much either if it is the same pattern - some city stage at beginning and repeating the powerstage at Sunday. Even this we didn't see last year. The new this year are interviews we've already seen elsewhere couple of times in the middle of the driving. Boring, boring...

On the other hand split and stage times weren't working for me most of the rally, I'm quite disappointed so far. They should concentrate on the quality, rather than fanciness.

[Allyc85]

So the biggest moment of the rally when Meeke hits the rock and there is no sound on the onboard. Not good enough.

The thing is with WRC+ we all know really its not worth the price, but if nobody pays for it they will stop it and if we carry on as is I doubt we will see progress. All we can do is all pass on "constructive criticism" and hope the WRC promoters listen for a change.

[Morte66]

Last week I subscribed to WRC+ for one month to try it. I don't think I'm going to renew, because...

- The 3x 1 hour of live rallying is not very good. They manage to put in about 50% filler, like interviews they've shown before and the celebrity drifting for the third or fourth time. And the commentator just will not shut up when there is nothing to say.

- The highlights are pretty ordinary. At the end of the highlights I don't have any sense of why driver X has moved from 3rd to 4th or whatever. There is no insight to it, nobody on this show is going to become a respected sports journalist. They miss a lot of actual highlights that I can see for free on social media, uploaded by spectators. And again there is a lot of repeat footage. It's not terrible, it would be OK on free TV for the general public, but for paying subscribers (i.e. enthusiasts) I would like more careful and intelligent coverage.

- The basic video quality is inadequate. It's OK resolution, but not enough bitrate for high motion. Many fan uploads to youtube are quite a lot better.

- I think the best part is the onboard footage. Well, except when the sound disappears. I might pay 10 euros a year for this, but not fifty.

Still, maybe Sweden will change my mind.

[AndyRAC]

So the biggest moment of the rally when Meeke hits the rock and there is no sound on the onboard. Not good enough.

The thing is with WRC+ we all know really its not worth the price, but if nobody pays for it they will stop it and if we carry on as is I doubt we will see progress. All we can do is all pass on "constructive criticism" and hope the WRC promoters listen for a change.

They won't listen, they know best.......or they think they do. The coverage hasn't really moved on in the last 10 years; still the same highlights, inane comments, etc

The problem is we, as a collective, put up with it because "it's better than nothing". This has to change - I'm fed up with this attitude in rallying. This is the reason the sport is the way it is.

I've been watching highlights of the IRC 2011 Monte on YouTube....it's better even though it has Carlton Kirby commentating....
Coverage from 5 years ago is better than what we have now. Not good enough!

[PLuto]

Last week I subscribed to WRC+ for one month to try it. I don't think I'm going to renew, because...

- The 3x 1 hour of live rallying is not very good. They manage to put in about 50% filler, like interviews they've shown before and the celebrity drifting for the third or fourth time. And the commentator just will not shut up when there is nothing to say.

- The highlights are pretty ordinary. At the end of the highlights I don't have any sense of why driver X has moved from 3rd to 4th or whatever. There is no insight to it, nobody on this show is going to become a respected sports journalist. They miss a lot of actual highlights that I can see for free on social media, uploaded by spectators. And again there is a lot of repeat footage. It's not terrible, it would be OK on free TV for the general public, but for paying subscribers (i.e. enthusiasts) I would like more careful and intelligent coverage.

- The basic video quality is inadequate. It's OK resolution, but not enough bitrate for high motion. Many fan uploads to youtube are quite a lot better.

- I think the best part is the onboard footage. Well, except when the sound disappears. I might pay 10 euros a year for this, but not fifty.

Still, maybe Sweden will change my mind.

Dont forget, that you must unsubscribe if you dont want to pay next month...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just cancelled my WRC+ ... just not worth having and hopefully if more of us do this they will take note and improve...

But I wont hold my breath.

[SubaruNorway]

Even Ogier has a GOPRO in the middle of the seats now so no excuses to have it where it is now really

[dimviii]

somebody must sent them a mail with a link to this conversation here.
Doubt if it helps though.
Personally i dont bother.
For most of rallies, i find everything on social media.Faster, more,and better.
To watch an incar where the position of camera doesnt help to understand if the driver has the right line,or how close he is to the edge of road,doesnt help my needs for watching it.
But thats only me.
About rally radio,i want more informations that i dont know,and not something i already know,and not bla-bla about everything.

Everybody at this wrc circus is amateur.
I am pretty sure that some guys from here can provide much better info,before and during the rally.

[Barreis]

I sent them e-mail a few months ago with proposition to change onboard camera angle. Never got reply...

[Loose_Unit]

I signed up at Rally Australia to follow Paddon. And to be honest I am totally disappointed with it. I'm going to cancel my subscription. I dont really see what extra value I get for the money. Highlight vids which arent that great, some onboard of crap quality, and live stages which arent that great either. I can follow the times live, and live text for free which is the main thing to follow during a rally. I just dont see the value in it...

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Last week I subscribed to WRC+ for one month to try it. I don't think I'm going to renew, because...

- The 3x 1 hour of live rallying is not very good. They manage to put in about 50% filler, like interviews they've shown before and the celebrity drifting for the third or fourth time. And the commentator just will not shut up when there is nothing to say.

Did you just say that the last two livestages also have the pre season interviews which was already featured in the pre season review & the celeb event..?

Shame on you, WRC..

[N.O.T]

This is the kind of image quality the WRC should aim for, not that useless stone age stuff they even have the nerve to ask money for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBbKvt_45Xg

and of course to offer better camera angles.

[GigiGalliNo1]

I'll will be dropping an email to the team at WRC TV with most of your words regarding feedback. If you'd like to add any more please do.

[AL14]

I'll will be dropping an email to the team at WRC TV with most of your words regarding feedback. If you'd like to add any more please do.

Yes, tell them to answer the emails and to not steal money to people, even if they do it in an underhand legally way.

BTW, I appreciate your gesture but really, it is crazy that they are not reading this thread (and other forums thread about WRC+) by themself.
It is recognized as the most cheaper and easy way to understand users will. So if they have not done it before they will never follow our suggestions now.

[N.O.T]

I'll will be dropping an email to the team at WRC TV with most of your words regarding feedback. If you'd like to add any more please do.

tell them they are sick dogs and they smell also.

[N.O.T]

oh and their wives are ugly...

[N.O.T]

you can also add this link which very accurately describes my feelings towards them from 1.47 onwards

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey0wvGiAH9g

[Allyc85]

Heard Paddon had quite an eventful stage 10 so tried to watch it, but into the direct sun the lens flare is unwatchable, and after his first spin the onboard switches to him near the finish. So much for getting you closer to the action.


This is the kind of image quality the WRC should aim for, not that useless stone age stuff they even have the nerve to ask money for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBbKvt_45Xg

and of course to offer better camera angles.

Agreed. And it can't be hard to fit a bullet camera between the crews, given how little space they take up..

http://www.dogcamsport.co.uk/roadhawk-ride-r-bullet-camera.html

[b3637853]

Heard Paddon had quite an eventful stage 10 so tried to watch it, but into the direct sun the lens flare is unwatchable, and after his first spin the onboard switches to him near the finish. So much for getting you closer to the action.



Agreed. And it can't be hard to fit a bullet camera between the crews, given how little space they take up..

http://www.dogcamsport.co.uk/roadhawk-ride-r-bullet-camera.html

+1

And it was my first thought after watching Bertelli's footage. So they are recording it in great quality and then convert it to shitty unwatchable videos.
Also If someone is writing e-mail to WRC+ please attach the link to this thread.

[bodemiller]

Hi guys, I just bought wrc+ for one year, 40 euros. I did it mainly because of the onboard videos but the quality is absolutely crap. Compared to the onboard video they upload on youtube, it's much worse. Look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12gK_2hGo7I

how can I improve the quality?

[AL14]

Hi guys, I just bought wrc+ for one year, 40 euros. I did it mainly because of the onboard videos but the quality is absolutely crap. Compared to the onboard video they upload on youtube, it's much worse. Look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12gK_2hGo7I

how can I improve the quality?

Finding a way to make them fire their product manager and probably the CTO. I fear there are no alternatives

[bodemiller]

Haha, seriously, why are they offering the onboar videos with so low quality? They are available in Full HD, as I can see them in TV coverage. Why the hell are they downgrading them for Wrc+ ??? For me, it's a scam!

[AL14]

Haha, seriously, why are they offering the onboar videos with so low quality? They are available in Full HD, as I can see them in TV coverage. Why the hell are they downgrading them for Wrc+ ??? For me, it's a scam!

It's hard to believe but no one knows. At this point the answers to your questions can be found in the first three post of this page. :)

[PLuto]

How should work live coverage from WRC event. I would like to mention, that this video is 17 years old...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_JcRypJwGA

[sindroms]

How should work live coverage from WRC event. I would like to mention, that this video is 17 years old...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_JcRypJwGA

Or this one - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NcngaZZpNI Look at 0:56 - 16 (sixteen!) on ground cameras per 7km.

[litifeta]

It's not like we have a choice. It is WRC+ or really nothing else. But I do wish they would learn to advertise correctly and deliver on their responsibilities. Just watched a 'Preview Magazine - Mexico'. The piece was 25:51 long and there was nothing about Mexico until it reached 16:15. All that other crap should have been in a different video.

[Eli]

It's not like we have a choice. It is WRC+ or really nothing else. But I do wish they would learn to advertise correctly and deliver on their responsibilities. Just watched a 'Preview Magazine - Mexico'. The piece was 25:51 long and there was nothing about Mexico until it reached 16:15. All that other crap should have been in a different video.

true...they could and should have put more content about Mexico in it.

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Looks like we're forced to subscribe to WRC+ if we want to see the onboards..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC+ now with WRC2 maps.

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/march-2016/wrc+-live-maps-wrc2/page/3294--12-12-.html

Also as promo for Rally Mexico, WRC+ to try for €0.99.

[EstWRC]

this is great! i have always liked wrc+ although i agree that it could be a lot better. But they are making steps!

[Munkvy]

And WRC2 footage on the live stage and shown in the WRC+ highlights, isn't that a first?

[itix]

Let's be realistic, that's probably only because the WRC field was so tame in Mexico.

They're going to go back to the old standard again as soon as we go back to an easy to reach event

[RAS007]

How should work live coverage from WRC event. I would like to mention, that this video is 17 years old...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_JcRypJwGA

That video is revealing in so many ways. The WRC has gone so far backwards as a series since then, and accordingly, there just isn't the level of interest that there was 17 years ago, which is partly why we are stuck with shite like WRC+.

[rallyfiend]

That video is revealing in so many ways. The WRC has gone so far backwards as a series since then, and accordingly, there just isn't the level of interest that there was 17 years ago, which is partly why we are stuck with shite like WRC+.

You're not 'stuck' with anything. WRC+ is there if you want it, otherwise there is TV and other online access for free.

It should be noted that this live from 1998 was on pay-tv Canal+ as well.

I'm sure there were people complaining about that fact back then too...

[RAS007]

You're not 'stuck' with anything. WRC+ is there if you want it, otherwise there is TV and other online access for free.

It should be noted that this live from 1998 was on pay-tv Canal+ as well.

I'm sure there were people complaining about that fact back then too...

Well, that all depends on where you live. There are many countries where the WRC is not available on TV at all, whether free to air or otherwise. I'm not familiar with the "other online access for free" you are referring to. As such, I, for one, am stuck with WRC+; my gripe isn't that I have to pay for it, it's that it's shite. Hardly any live stages, very poor in-car camera angles, and normally only coverage of the first few cars for any live stages; the additional content, such as preview shows, is just filler shite, as are the commentators. The very name of the product suggests that it is premium content, and it just isn't. Lastly, I don't care whether coverage is on free-to-air or pay-tv. I just want decent coverage and preferably not with commentators whose only knowledge of the sport seems to come from having played SEGA Rally 20 years ago.

[AL14]

Is there a charitable organisation that can help these guys? I want to donate. I can't just stare and watch all this pain without doing nothing.

https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/vb.35390480677/10153505656610678/?type=2&theater

[N.O.T]

I think they are doing it on purpose, none can be that incompetent.

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

JML's power stage onboard is out.

They should upload the onboards on YT two rallies earlier..

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[Rally Power]

Finally, one happy costumer:
“WRC+ (…) was an innovative platform and it’s been a huge success since it started” (Oliver Ciesla, WRC Promoter)

http://digital.motorsportmonday.com//launch.aspx?eid=732fe228-9be9-4e4a-be39-822c4aaae321

[EightGear]

http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads9/5710d9654b1fe/5710d96540259-cc.png

About time, really. But good move.

[Simmi]

At this point all you can say is better late than never - http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc-2/news/2016/april-2016/wrc-2-show/page/3453--51-51-.html

[dodge33cymru]

It's a start, would still like the live broadcasts to be extended (online only is fine) for WRC2 competitors.

[EstWRC]

Promocode ARG16 and you get it with 0.99€ for month, if you subscribe tomorrow you will also get Portugal.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Promocode ARG16 and you get it with 0.99€ for month, if you subscribe tomorrow you will also get Portugal.

Good idea... :) I was going to miss the live stages as BT has put them all on BT Sport 2 which I dont get without paying extra.

EDIT: I'm going to wait til Sunday for the live stages as the first 3 are just Super-Specials...

[samWRC]

Have anyone else got problem with onboards and live maps right now. I can't get those work. Yesterday they worked well.

[GigiGalliNo1]

Ohhh..... thought WRC2 guys had a full daily highlights package.... only 2 mins....

55 min show at the end?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Usual rubbish from BT Sport - no WRC Day 2 highlights this morning, showing football instead with no apology or explanation.

Good job I can now sign up for WRC+ and catch up then see Day 3 live (and get Portugal as well) ... all for €0.99. :)

[traxx]

Do you know if there is a valid current promotion code ? IT2016 seems over...

[satnav]

Just wondering if anyone knows a way to download the onboards so as to watch when not online

[stefanvv]

Just wondering if anyone knows a way to download the onboards so as to watch when not online

try with some flash video downloader

[satnav]

try with some flash video downloader

I have tried and can't get any to work.

[stefanvv]

I have tried and can't get any to work.

Yeah probably it little more tricky. With youtube there is no problem, but this one is paid.

[NaBUru38]

I use DownloadHelper, perhaps it works.

[satnav]

I use DownloadHelper, perhaps it works.

Thanks i'll try

[traxx]

Anybody knows a promotional code for WRC+, please ?

[giu canbera]

wow! WRC+ is so cheap! I never knew! Im signing it right now!

[GigiGalliNo1]

What?

[N.O.T]

wow! WRC+ is so cheap! I never knew! Im signing it right now!

http://i.imgur.com/m0l6rqD.png

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Free Month of WRC+ ...

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/september-2016/wrc+-october-special/page/3913--12-12-.html

[Franky]

Free Month of WRC+ ...

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/september-2016/wrc+-october-special/page/3913--12-12-.html

Free month number 10

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Join tomorrow and get 3 rallies for free in October (TdC, Spain, GB).

[Mariusz]

Free month number 10

Yeah... What they do is not the best way to make the project financially sustainable. But, well, can't complain about freebies :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good timing this offer as UK coverage is a joke on BT... todays highlights of the TdC not being shown until 4am !!

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

And I'm unable to using the promocode.

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[giu canbera]

OCT2016 is a code for a free month now in October. So awesome. My first time

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

What should I do in payment methods part..? (With that promocode)

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[traxx]

Where are the stages ?!

[SubaruNorway]

Where are the stages ?!

What do you mean? All stages from yesterday apart from SS8 is there.

[traxx]

No stage on the map on my side :( Only the cars :(

[SubaruNorway]

No stage on the map on my side :( Only the cars :(

It's been working on all stages for me in Chrome, not always but then usually just a restart is needed.

[traxx]

Right ! It's ok in Chrome, not in Firefox

[MM WRC]

It seems that WRC+ didn't survive to the winter time... The live coverage was due to start at 11 (East European time) by when most cars were through. And WRC+ still counted minutes. Now it just shows that 0 seconds left until the start but nothing happens

[MM WRC]

And it started to work. Probably just slow connection :)

[HarriK]

I'm just wondering why WRC is not able to broadcast more the existing incar-cameras during the rally live stages!!

Would be nice to see more incar live, perhaps one or two stages per day. Now it seems to be that only PS will be seen at live.
Would be easy just to pick 2 minutes every driver incar at stage and the give Colin one cameraman with him to take live interview at the end of stage. And this interview should be at smaller window at the corner of the screen while another driver incar can be watched. So no need to have any cameraman in the forest by the stage. Only PS should be like this.

[KKS]

In that way they must keep heli right behiend the car to transmit a signal from a car.
Or use 4G/3G tech, but as we hear with simple stage end interviews with 2G as signal brokes every 2 minutes - it's imposible to stream video from car with that tech.

But some people do this in Estonia.

[tommeke_B]

In that way they must keep heli right behiend the car to transmit a signal from a car.
Or use 4G/3G tech, but as we hear with simple stage end interviews with 2G as signal brokes every 2 minutes - it's imposible to stream video from car with that tech.

But some people do this in Estonia.

Maybe there's a good phone-network in Estonia. In many events 3G is rare on most stages. In Wales you're already happy if you can call somebody, I think they haven't discovered 3G yet.

[Oliverk]

Maybe there's a good phone-network in Estonia. In many events 3G is rare on most stages. In Wales you're already happy if you can call somebody, I think they haven't discovered 3G yet.

Yes there is very good 4g coverage in Estonia, but still live Youtube feed from car has some interruption of video.

[HarriK]

In that way they must keep heli right behiend the car to transmit a signal from a car.
Or use 4G/3G tech, but as we hear with simple stage end interviews with 2G as signal brokes every 2 minutes - it's imposible to stream video from car with that tech.

But some people do this in Estonia.

ok, but they do fly helicopter a lot with stages so why not`?
That would be much more easier that camera side by the road...
Remember again ERC good broadcasts some year ago...

[KKS]

ok, but they do fly helicopter a lot with stages so why not`?
That would be much more easier that camera side by the road...
Remember again ERC good broadcasts some year ago...
Only safety heli on "normal stages" no?

[Franky]

So the onboards still look like they've been recorded on VHS based on the uploaded video quality.

[Allyc85]

Really not happy with Wrc+

On the 16th I cancelled my renewal, which was due on the 20th, only for them to take the money from my account on the 23rd. There is no email to confirm my cancellation, and nothing to say they took the payment!

Now I can log in, but when I try and access any content it just asks me to log in again!

Anyone else had this?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

To be fair they canx my WRC+ exactly as requested last season (and after I had my free month including 3 rallies) ... :)

[Allyc85]

Well after nearly a week and 5 emails exchanged I've had no apology, they claim they can't find the transaction, and they just call me wrc+ user. Rude. Threatening to get my bank involved has meant that apparently the matter is being passed on to another department. B.S.!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Glad I have BT Sport and now there's Red Bull TV with more shows & live stages...

[Allyc85]

Yeah I have Bt Sport now too.

Phoned up the bank today and within 10 minutes I received a refund, though it is still subject to the muppets at wrc+ trying to contest it!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Anyone have a discount code for subscription?

[wildboar]

Anyone have a discount code for subscription?

WRC2017 should still be valid. Gives 20% off. Says so on the wrc+ page.

[EightGear]

Will they....?

Can we dream???

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170209/ec12962506c7cb5fdbb5f791a3092dba.jpg

[KKS]

What is that?

[stefanvv]

Proper camera placement

[b3637853]

Can you guys see the panel with split times and wrc radio in live maps section? It's not showing for me in Chrome and IE.

Edit: It's fine now.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Anyine else's radio stopped working on the WRC App since it just updated ??? :(

[BicioWrc]

Will they....?

Can we dream???

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170209/ec12962506c7cb5fdbb5f791a3092dba.jpg

I'm checking various drivers...only Ogier have the FX cam in this great position.....Tanak also if is teammate no:(
Why we don't prepare a mail to send to Wrc+ support for ask/pray for this position of Cam for every driver?
if everyone from forum send it...their will have to listen!:)

[KKS]

% of stage view is too small
% of black, non-movment staff is too big
with this position, I don't like it

[dodge33cymru]

% of stage view is too small
% of black, non-movment staff is too big
with this position, I don't like it
You and me both, but I think we're in a minority on here

[EstWRC]

free code is CORSE17

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

Does WRC2 & Rally2 onboards are finally available..?

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[EstWRC]

yes, from leading drivers

[wildboar]

Looks like wrc+ is also streaming 2 stages from Argentina that are "local production with Spanish commentary":

PROMO CODE: ARG17


The Super Special Stage in downtown Cordoba kicks off the action on Thursday evening followed by the Super Special Stage at the theme park in Villa Carlos Paz on Friday.



LIVE STREAM SS1 – Thursday 22:00 UTC

(local production with Spanish commentary)



LIVE STREAM SS9 – Friday 22:00 UTC

(local production with Spanish commentary)



Saturday’s second leg features rockier stages north-west of the host town in the Punilla with Live coverage of the Tanti - Villa Bustos stage.



LIVE STREAM SS13 – Saturday 16:00 UTC

(WRC TV production with English commentary)



The finale is on classic rock-strewn tracks in the Traslasierra mountains with the spectacular lunar-like landscape of the famous El Condor in the 1h 30min live coverage of the Power Stage on Sunday.



LIVE STREAM SS18 – Sunday 15:00 UTC

(WRC TV production with English commentary)

[EstWRC]

Free code is ARG17

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

yes, from leading drivers
Examples: Neuville's Monte/Sweden day 3 runs..?? (Rally2) & Skoda Motorsport's onboards (WRC2)

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[EstWRC]

Examples: Neuville's Monte/Sweden day 3 runs..?? (Rally2) & Skoda Motorsport's onboards (WRC2)

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if this was a question then yes, Neuville's onboards from Monte last day are available (expect last stage) and Sweden Day3 too....Camilli and Tidemand are also available from Sweden Day3 and Mikkelsen and Kopecky from Monte Day 3

[Arnold Triyudho Wardono]

if this was a question then yes, Neuville's onboards from Monte last day are available (expect last stage) and Sweden Day3 too....Camilli and Tidemand are also available from Sweden Day3 and Mikkelsen and Kopecky from Monte Day 3

Good to hear that..

BTW, WRC could upload some of the onboards that didn't available on the Plus to its Youtube channel if they want. (my opinion)

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[EstWRC]

Promo code: Pt2017

[Allez Andruet]

So WRC+ has managed to upload four onboards (of which one is Prokop) from yesterday's final stage (SS15). Nice job, really nice!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Just so you know - they filmed 4 stages live, back to back - one after another in a new style of programming which will be introduced in 2018!

[Franky]

Just so you know - they filmed 4 stages live, back to back - one after another in a new style of programming which will be introduced in 2018!

They should improve their quality of videos for WRC Plus. It looks like upscaled SD.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just so you know - they filmed 4 stages live, back to back - one after another in a new style of programming which will be introduced in 2018!

Thought it was strange there was only one live stage today. There are normally two - one on tv and one on Red Bull. Wonder why they didnt show Monte Lerno ?

[SubaruNorway]

Thought it was strange there was only one live stage today. There are normally two - one on tv and one on Red Bull. Wonder why they didnt show Monte Lerno ?

Only Sweden has had two on Saturday, maybe RTP had some in Portugal? Two tomorrow is new though.

[KKS]

Just so you know - they filmed 4 stages live, back to back - one after another in a new style of programming which will be introduced in 2018!
So we should have rally section with 4 stages in 2018?

[Allez Andruet]

WRC+ is a joke. How many onboards there are uploaded from this rally from Latvala? 1? 2? And nothing from Hänninen on SS3 where he set the fastest time.

[SubaruNorway]

WRC+ is a joke. How many onboards there are uploaded from this rally from Latvala? 1? 2? And nothing from Hänninen on SS3 where he set the fastest time.

He's on everyone from today, maybe some camera issue.

[Allez Andruet]

He's on everyone from today, maybe some camera issue.
Camera issue? And you have only one camera in the car?
Well, anyway, it was not about Latvala or Hänninen, but the concept itself. You charge people (me included) for onboards and then you upload just some of them. Ridicilous. The only reason not to upload an onboard footage is if there's some really "classified" information shared... but come on, you can always mute the version or do something else.

[rallyfiend]

Camera issue? And you have only one camera in the car?
Well, anyway, it was not about Latvala or Hänninen, but the concept itself. You charge people (me included) for onboards and then you upload just some of them. Ridicilous. The only reason not to upload an onboard footage is if there's some really "classified" information shared... but come on, you can always mute the version or do something else.

Equipment fails you know.

Or do you live in a world of perfection?

[GigiGalliNo1]

Haha

[KKS]

Anyone have fresh promocode?

[EstWRC]

De2017

[Doon]

Anyone know why the Chromecast feature has gone?

[sonnybobiche]

Presumably it's something to do with the new video player they implemented. Much, much better than the old one, but probably also has DRM or whatever the equivalent is that doesn't allow video streaming to another device.

You could always get around it by getting the actual link for the video itself from the site and downloading/streaming through VLC, but it's a bit of a faff. PM for instructions if interested.

Amazon Fire TV has its own reasonably acceptable WRC+ app, which was the reason I actually bought the thing in the first place, but it's turned out to be a great investment in its own right. Way better than Roku or chromecast. (Especially because it's easy to install Kodi on it.) Also has a pretty good Red Bull TV app if you watch that instead.

[swanny]

Am thinking about getting a fire tv (for prime) but am quite pissed off about it because Chromecast worked really nicely for wrc.com and supercars.com superview. Now neither of them do.

[satnav]

Anyone know any current promo code

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Anyone know any current promo code

WRC+ has a 1 month free trial anyway.

[KKS]

anyone know any current promo code
spain2017 (upper case)

[AnttiL]

Do Finland 2014 onboards work for anyone else? First 11 stages seem to work, but the rest of them just leave the spinner forever and nothing happens. I'd like to see Myhinpää onboard in that form.