Wrc+

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The main thing I and some others want is a pure sound audio option. Is that technically difficult and costly ?

[lnvs]

Now that they already have option for commentary languages it can't be hard to add one more audio option.

[denkimi]

Does your kitchen move at 180 km/h in the mountains and forests?

On most stages in the WRC you can't even get on FB, i know on Röjden and Svullrya in some places you can barely send a text.
Spain also had really bad connection. So how would you sort that out?

I do think there's a reason they use 150.000€ kits in each car for camera's and satellite signal through the repeater plane and not a smartphone ;)
Why are you all trying to invent all those stupid reason for their failure?

The cameras are there, the transmittors are there, the helis/planes are there. Everything they need is already being used.
If they can switch cameras in the studio they get different feeds into that studio. So they can also send those feeds back out so people can watch them instead of stupid interviews.

Of course you will not be able to follow everyone all the time, but the helicam, the stationary camera's and at least 2 to 3 onboard cameras should be available at all time. There is no technical or financial reason why i should watch the start instead of an onboard.

Eurosport could do it 10 years ago, and that was before the time of smartphones, 4g or even drones.

[rallyfiend]

Why are you all trying to invent all those stupid reason for their failure?

The cameras are there, the transmittors are there, the helis/planes are there. Everything they need is already being used.
If they can switch cameras in the studio they get different feeds into that studio. So they can also send those feeds back out so people can watch them instead of stupid interviews.

Of course you will not be able to follow everyone all the time, but the helicam, the stationary camera's and at least 2 to 3 onboard cameras should be available at all time. There is no technical or financial reason why i should watch the start instead of an onboard.

Eurosport could do it 10 years ago, and that was before the time of smartphones, 4g or even drones.

I tell you what. Why don't you choose a rally local to you, put all this in place, and send us all a link to watch it?

Hell, pick even just one stage.

[NickRally]

At any one time there are already several feeds to the studio (wherever that is) and the question is why can’t they make this available to the subscribers.
Of course we know what the answer is, the promoter can’t cope with the current demand on their service and to enrich the service will inevitably cost money, which obviously they consider unnecessary. My impression is they try to get away with the minimum possible expenditure and only add value to the service when, for whatever reason, they think they have no other choice or must be seen to be doing something.

[Googol]

Why do you keep on talking about mobile phones or 4g when they don't help at all? Also, if working cameras keep on changing, would the viewer need also constantly switch between them?

[denkimi]

I tell you what. Why don't you choose a rally local to you, put all this in place, and send us all a link to watch it?

Hell, pick even just one stage.
If you pay me 10 thousand euro i'll be happy to do that for you.

[AndyRAC]

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/news/rally/wrc-could-have-been-dominant-motor-sport

[AnttiL]

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/news/rally/wrc-could-have-been-dominant-motor-sport

Richards says he wanted to start live streaming in 2000. What was the level of streaming technology back then? I think I didn't even have a broadband internet connection at the time, it only started becoming a household necessity in the next few years.

[tommeke_B]

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/news/rally/wrc-could-have-been-dominant-motor-sport

Useless article, just someone saying "I knew it". Even if they had that technology to produce it, back in 2000 the world wasn't ready for it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Richards says he wanted to start live streaming in 2000. What was the level of streaming technology back then? I think I didn't even have a broadband internet connection at the time, it only started becoming a household necessity in the next few years.

Correct. We were still on dial-up until about 2004.

Streaming wasnt a thing until broadband came along. And even then I seem to remember it was mostly illegal peer-to-peer for live sport on foreign tv stations.

I think he's getting confused. There used to be a lot of talk about showing live WRC stages on tv around 2000.

[the sniper]

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/news/rally/wrc-could-have-been-dominant-motor-sport

That was way too early for streaming IMO, both for most customers to receive and the WRC to provide. The manufacturers were right to want to stick with terrestrial television wherever possible, it should still be a primary aim of the promoter.

Once a streaming service became more viable, maybe mid to late 2000s, the mainstream audience and money had already slipped away. I don't think streaming was the answer to that problem anyway.

Realistically in hindsight I think the WRC should have launched All Live in 2012. Eurosport had proven the ability to broadcast entire events live. Broadband internet was widely available. VW were known to be returning. There was a buzz around that time. Unlikely, but maybe Ford and MINI would have been encouraged to stay if they'd been shown some direction by the WRC... Obviously the instability around the Promoter at that time probably precluded any serious planning, so that was that. If only the rich Russian had hit the ground running and sorted this out in 2011 before getting nicked! :D

[stefanvv]

Correct. We were still on dial-up until about 2004.

ADSL was available on y2k but was expensive luxury.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Richards was dreaming about streaming in 2000 in the UK...

"By 2009, 50 percent of Britons had access to broadband in their homes, with broadband connections becoming robust enough to stream videos online."

[PLuto]

Richards was maybe dreaming, but in the final did nothing. It was mainly about big words, but result was quite poor.

[NickRally]

Just got the message that, as expected, Paypal couldn't get in touch with the seller, i.e. WRC Promoter, and as a result have ruled in my favour on my opened case and have refunded my last payment.

[Franky]

Just got the message that, as expected, Paypal couldn't get in touch with the seller, i.e. WRC Promoter, and as a result have ruled in my favour on my opened case and have refunded my last payment.

Great customer service....

[flykas]

Do you think we'll get a livestream of shakedowns, like in Monaco?

[AnttiL]

Do you think we'll get a livestream of shakedowns, like in Monaco?

Yes. Becs confirmed on twitter

[Rallyper]

Yes. Becs confirmed on twitter

Is not on the schedule on WRC+...

[Tauri_J]

Is not on the schedule on WRC+...

It wasnt in Monte also

[Rallyper]

It wasnt in Monte also

So they make it like a bonus, or something?

[AnttiL]

So they make it like a bonus, or something?

Through facebook live stream

[Rallyper]

Through facebook live stream

Could someone post a link tomorrow. I don´t have FB. Or how can it be solved?

[Tauri_J]

No, it was on Wrc + also, If I recall correctly

[Fast Eddie WRC]

BT Sport Extra shows WRC+ All Live.

It has WRC Rally Sweden live listed from 9.45UK. So SD should be on All Live from then.

[Rallyper]

BT Sport Extra shows WRC+ All Live.

It has WRC Rally Sweden live listed from 9.45UK. So SD should be on All Live from then.

Ok. However SD starts at 0800h UTC or 0900h CET ...

[Sso]

Can I see SD with WRC+ basic or do I need all live? bummer in that case..

[er88]

Can I see SD with WRC+ basic or do I need all live? bummer in that case..They'll show you if you have Facebook. But not if you're a paying customer with either Basic or AllLive...

[racerx1979]

Can someone post the Facebook shakedown link? Thanks in advance.

[Tauri_J]

They'll show you if you have Facebook. But not if you're a paying customer with either Basic or AllLive...

It Will be on WRC+

[EstWRC]

https://www.facebook.com/TOYOTAGAZOORacingWRC/videos/1201738299993843/?notif_id=1550131239915192&notif_t=live_video_explicit

[stefanvv]

https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/1201712316663108/

[sonnybobiche]

Shakedown is being streamed on All Live (for once).

[rallyfiend]

Shakedown is being streamed on All Live (for once).

That happened in Monte too....

[stefanvv]

Shakedown is being streamed on All Live (for once).

Not for me, shows a clock.

[Rallyper]

Well, streaming only for half an hour... Said in RMC saying it again, why stop after 30 mins!! Muuuhhhh!!!

[PLuto]

Well, streaming only for half an hour... Said in RMC saying it again, why stop after 30 mins!! Muuuhhhh!!!

It is only for first loop. Thats why there is mandatory that all P1 and P2P must do first loop according to start list - for this streaming to show everyone.

[AnttiL]

It is only for first loop. Thats why there is mandatory that all P1 and P2P must do first loop according to start list - for this streaming to show everyone.

Yes. Basically it could be possible that all cars would go back to service after the first run and the stage would be all quiet for a long time.

[Rallyper]

It is only for first loop. Thats why there is mandatory that all P1 and P2P must do first loop according to start list - for this streaming to show everyone.

Well, better then not to show at all.

[AnttiL]

Well, better then not to show at all.

Strongly disagreed. Besides, you can just not watch.

[Andre Oliveira]

Chromecast option on iOS app gone?

[Rally Power]

Hope All Live will work fine this time. Not able to follow the rally but wishing all you a nice event.

[erikli2]

And of course the live timing doesn't work at the finish line (clock keeps on ticking). Same thing every rally, how's it possible?

[KKS]

And of course the live timing doesn't work at the finish line (clock keeps on ticking). Same thing every rally, how's it possible?
it's timming glitch, not wrc+ on ewrc results of some cars posted with huge delay, while other car from heat was already there.

[AnttiL]

Chromecast option on iOS app gone?

For a while yes. Sucks.

[meh]

If you are able to log in and start video once, you can switch to direct stream and not be affected with WRC+ issues which may come later.

I wrote instructions how to do that: https://security.elarlang.eu/detect-wrc-alllive-video-stream-address.html
Tweet: https://twitter.com/elarlang/status/1088926671091257346

Updated for Rally Sweden.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lucky WRC+ All Live is now on BT Sport Extra (red button)... tonight they didnt show the SSS on BT Sport 1 HD as scheduled but just left on the Qatar tennis instead.

[dodge33cymru]

you're kidding me, we're not even showing the WRC2 Pro competitors? Watching a map instead...

[AnttiL]

you're kidding me, we're not even showing the WRC2 Pro competitors? Watching a map instead...

Like I explained elsewhere, they have only a certain number of onboard camera kits, which are hugely expensive. With the extra WRC cars also, they have only two for WRC2Pro.

They could though just keep Colin Clark talking and interviewing drivers but I think he already has to rush towards the end of SS5.

But I agree that this sucks and they could probably do something about it.

[Rallyper]

If they don´t manage to show WRC2Pro drivers then they should get some more cameras...

Or rather skip some weard angels on the first cars...

[Franky]

Feels strange saying this but I've started to find All Live boring. And once you aren't following with full attention, the info displayed on the graphics becomes useless - you've got no idea who was how fast. Still the same complaint that has been posted here quite a few times by many. Stage classification instead of overall standings.

[Rallyper]

And they don´t have to comment all the time. It´s a good proffessional way just to let the pictures and sound from codriver be the show.

Was thinking of a brilliant idea: why not build in a wire and have microphone at the outside rear of the car giving the audience real sound from car. Sound from inside is a bit tame and lame... :):)

[Japé]

No in-car footage still from Gronholm's latest off?

[AnttiL]

No in-car footage still from Gronholm's latest off?

Probably not until they get the memory card from the car.

[dodge33cymru]

Like I explained elsewhere, they have only a certain number of onboard camera kits, which are hugely expensive. With the extra WRC cars also, they have only two for WRC2Pro.

They could though just keep Colin Clark talking and interviewing drivers but I think he already has to rush towards the end of SS5.

But I agree that this sucks and they could probably do something about it.

Fair point about the onboards, I don't mind that, but at the end of the loop I'd rather have stage end reporting like the radio always used to do. I know it sounds silly, but you got all sorts of characters lower down like Linari and talking to Gorban's co-driver and with the WRC2 field as strong as it is here there's a fascinating story to be told there that they are completely neglecting to tell (in a way that WRC Radio never did).

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I have noticed so far today the commentators have been a bit less talkative (well except Desborough). Hopefully they are getting the message that we dont need constant talking and want to hear the cars and pacenotes.

Disappointed by hardly any heli coverage today... 99% just onboards.

[AnttiL]

Disappointed by hardly any heli coverage today... 99% just onboards.

Must be an issue with the helicopter since weather doesn't seem to be bad.

[dodge33cymru]

OK, so I understand no onboards, I understand sometimes stage reports need to leave, but after the day they had, to not show a single WRC2 car through the last stage is utterly ridiculous IMO. I know it doesn't come free, but still, come on, have some pride in your product - add some value to the young drivers trying to make their way and to the teams who are helping them get there and advertise their customer cars.

[AndyRAC]

OK, so I understand no onboards, I understand sometimes stage reports need to leave, but after the day they had, to not show a single WRC2 car through the last stage is utterly ridiculous IMO. I know it doesn't come free, but still, come on, have some pride in your product - add some value to the young drivers trying to make their way and to the teams who are helping them get there and advertise their customer cars.

Where is the incentive for WRC2 entrants....a poor show in all. As you will know, it's a lot different in Sportscar multiclass racing, were the other categories get coverage.

[KKS]

and in past days we have a 25min review for PWRC and 25 min for JWRC.
2005 was better than 2019 :(. No progress

[Mirek]

I wonder why they have the speedometer in the onboards when most of the time it shows complete bullshit (the ERC GPS speed is a laboratory device compared to this). I admit I saw only few ones but the speed indication worked very rarely and instead there were ridiculous values.

[KKS]

wrc+ speed was very simplified too

Tanak SS02 <100 points for 20+km stage
https://webappsdata.wrc.com/srv/fs/pull/60b6c85e-1e78-439e-aa85-615bd5c3bf5b/ss02tan_telemetry_js/js

[the sniper]

Is it my imagination or have they improved the picture quality on the WRC+ onboards/All Live VOD but it's messed up the playback speed? I get the same slightly overly fast, unnatural impression that I get from 60fps videos on You Tube, so I'm guessing they've gone to 60fps as I didn't notice this effect being so obvious last year?

[KKS]

they film at 50fps but for all wrc+ cut off for 25fps

[AnttiL]

All Live has been working quite well the whole weekend?

[KKS]

25fps isn't a big trouble. With 25fps I can live. But 2000kbps for 720p? it's to low bitrate



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[Japé]

Better than in Monte - yes. But still worse than 2018. Times and many graphics not working, poor image quality and as the most disturbing issue the disappeared rewind possibility. They should just concenrate now to get the basics right.

EDIT and forgot the sound issues and often playing sound from wrong source.

[Franky]

they film at 50fps but for all wrc+ cut off for 25fps

I'm quite sure they film in 50i (interlaced), which is one of the HD broadcast standards

[AnttiL]

Better than in Monte - yes. But still worse than 2018. Times and many graphics not working, poor image quality and as the most disturbing issue the disappeared rewind possibility. They should just concenrate now to get the basics right.

EDIT and forgot the sound issues and often playing sound from wrong source.

Yeah the 2019 web player is worse than 2018, it doesn't allow keyboard usage.

I would say those sound and timing issues appeared in 2018 also.

[Japé]

This picture in picture format works well for having same time the stage end interviews and simultaneously showing in-car footage from stage as main screen with having both sound tracks balanced, nice.

[Franky]

I have noticed so far today the commentators have been a bit less talkative (well except Desborough). Hopefully they are getting the message that we dont need constant talking and want to hear the cars and pacenotes.

On Hagfors 1 it seems the only moment they shut up is right before the flying finish. Still can't understand how no one there has realised that they aren't doing radio. And sometimes it feels like they are one step away from just opening the latest IKEA catalog and start commenting that while the stage is live.

[mousti]

On Hagfors 1 it seems the only moment they shut up is right before the flying finish. Still can't understand how no one there has realised that they aren't doing radio. And sometimes it feels like they are one step away from just opening the latest IKEA catalog and start commenting that while the stage is live.
Yeah that's why I sometimes think they need someone with other autosport experience in, that bickering is quite amateurish. At WRC radio it was always same audience and mostly diehard fans now it's a bit different I think. And I was already irritated with that bickering at WRC radio..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Commentary is so annoying. Please everyone, email them and ask for a pure sound option on All Live.

support@service-plus.wrc.com

[mufcAleksi]

A lot of things have gotten better this weekend (like the picture-in-picture interviews on Rämmen) but why on earth do we still have to watch drivers waiting at the start line for like 30 seconds each time when others are on stage?

[Sulland]

It is sad to see that WRC Live totally ingores wrc2! They had a few words with Kalle yesterday on some stages.

After all RC1 cars are done, they swap back to studio to a blond non-rally woman and a guy that talk on stuff we already know, amd then the gps map.
Why not continue with live coverage of the fighting teams in RC2. Not even the pro class get any bang for their bucks.

Not good enough, we pay to see live rally, and not GPS maps!

[DoN_cz]

anyone else having problems in Firefox? The all live player doesn't load, neither the EPG below it. Works in IE though. Updated the browser and flash player but that didn't help.

[KKS]

anyone else having problems in Firefox? The all live player doesn't load, neither the EPG below it. Works in IE though. Updated the browser and flash player but that didn't help.
try to clear cookies for plus.wrc.com

[dnb]

It is sad to see that WRC Live totally ingores wrc2! They had a few words with Kalle yesterday on some stages.

After all RC1 cars are done, they swap back to studio to a blond non-rally woman and a guy that talk on stuff we already know, amd then the gps map.
Why not continue with live coverage of the fighting teams in RC2. Not even the pro class get any bang for their bucks.

Not good enough, we pay to see live rally, and not GPS maps!

yeah, well i'd like to see more coverage from JWRC. WRC2 gets tons of coverage compared to JWRC.

[KKS]

And what a problem now? They had same stage to re-run, no need to move reporter, no need to move equipment, they had a plenty of time for next stage and what? they cut-off just after Kalle and show rotating map. What a problem guys? Why you run WRC2 and JWRC, you have a possibility to cover and simply ignore that two championship.

[Morte66]

1735

Straight, flat section of road. Truly a masterpiece of onboard camera setup.:rolleyes:

[KKS]

waste of disk space for such kind of onboards :(

[Morte66]

1735

Straight, flat section of road. Truly a masterpiece of onboard camera setup.:rolleyes:

I'm now up to SS10 and they've moved Meeke's camera to the dash. This gives a good view of the road (which is what I personally want), but no view of the inside (I understand some people would prefer a bit of each). So it's improved from "awful" to "OK or good, depending on the viewer". I'll take it.

Well, nice to see.

[SubaruNorway]

Has anyone noticed if it's a set day All Live is removed before the next rally, Monday?
Not sure if i dare saving the rest of Sweden for the weekend.

[AnttiL]

Has anyone noticed if it's a set day All Live is removed before the next rally, Monday?
Not sure if i dare saving the rest of Sweden for the weekend.

Hmm, I remembered a twitter conversation from August

https://twitter.com/KiwiWRCfan/status/1027874926068260864

In here Gary tells on Friday 10th August to re-watch All Live material as it's "last chance"

But I really don't remember

[GigiGalliNo1]

Has anyone noticed if it's a set day All Live is removed before the next rally, Monday?
Not sure if i dare saving the rest of Sweden for the weekend.

I'm under the impression that the All Live footage is taken off WRC+ when the next event starts.

You can torrent each day of WRC+ All Live. It's out there. 30+ hours!

[KiwiWRCfan]

Hmm, I remembered a twitter conversation from August

https://twitter.com/KiwiWRCfan/status/1027874926068260864

In here Gary tells on Friday 10th August to re-watch All Live material as it's "last chance"

But I really don't remember

thanks for mentioning me Antti. I do not know exactly when previous round is taken down other than it is several days prior to next event starting so they can get everything set up for the next event. Maybe somebody from this forum can check each morning and night over next week to report back to the rest of us when it happens.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Canal+ showing Rally Mexico free to air...

Rally Guanajuato Mexico 2019
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Du jeudi 7 au dimanche 10 mars 2019 (jusqu'à midi), les abonnés Free pourront visionner les programmes Canal+ en clair et gratuitement. https://t.co/pqq7u1xrR6

[the sniper]

On the FIA stand at the Geneva Motorshow they were giving out a code for a free month of AllLive: WGA5DB11

Redeemable until 27/03/19

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Anyone with BT Sport, All Live is on the red button via BT Sport 3.

[the sniper]

Anyone with BT Sport, All Live is on the red button via BT Sport 3.

Shame the picture quality isn't better... It's bringing back nostalgic memories of MotorsTV. :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Shame the picture quality isn't better... It's bringing back nostalgic memories of MotorsTV. :D

Looks ok on my TV with all the settings turned up... ;)

[the sniper]

Looks ok on my TV with all the settings turned up... ;)

No enhancement options available if watching on VM cable. ;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just wish I coukd do something about the audio.

It does my head in having commentators talk non-stop over the car/co-driver audio.

SHUT UP, IT'S NOT RADIO ANYMORE. :(

[meh]

https://twitter.com/elarlang/status/1104477666076430336

Frequent question in AllLive: "How disappointed are you?"
Anyone else annoyed?

[Myrvold]

Just wish I coukd do something about the audio.

It does my head in having commentators talk non-stop over the car/co-driver audio.

SHUT UP, IT'S NOT RADIO ANYMORE. :(

I seem to remember reading somewhere that the audio-track is being played as the radio?

[AnttiL]

I seem to remember reading somewhere that the audio-track is being played as the radio?

True.

[sonnybobiche]

try to clear cookies for plus.wrc.com

I had the same issue in Chrome a while back and this fixed it.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

True.

Surely the radio is the audio from All Live with commentary, not pure sound ?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://www.tvbeurope.com/production-post/liveu-enhances-fia-world-rally-championship-coverage/

[KKS]

now on every rally we should clear cookies to watch wrc+? On both PC for me they start to work only after that

[AnttiL]

now on every rally we should clear cookies to watch wrc+? On both PC for me they start to work only after that

No problems for me

[Japé]

Morning loop done and if I recall correctly WRC+ has missed all the action, no cows x2, no Meeke rim cracking (blue screen), no Loeb off, no Lappi spin. Ogier spin was the only shown in screen. Plus point for getting Loeb's Hyundai fixing session to screen.

Heart beat issue also appeared, but it seems to be more of a standard nowadays.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

All Live does miss most drama's live and is getting tedious at times.

So few stage-side cameras means you dont get the real impression of speed. And of course the constant wittering from the comms is a PITA.

The fan vids of the shakedown were great - a real impact of speed and pure sound.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

"The next rally, Tour de Corse, is set to be the first time that the LU600s have been involved in testing camera positions in advance of the event.

Signals are sent to the WRC TV production unit where the LiveU servers are situated, normally in the event service park. The content is then pulled into the edit suite as required. Rally stages are spread up to 250km around the service park at each event.

WRC Promoter director of content and production Florian Ruth said: “We are using LiveU in conjunction with our RF and satellite workflow, allowing us to significantly expand our coverage without having to worry about access to certain parts of events or rely on motorcycles to deliver the additional captured footage to us.

“In order to continue to fully engage existing viewers and to attract new audiences, we constantly need to innovate. Using LiveU is allowing us to think differently and to bring a fresh level of dynamism to our content as we can use locations at each event that simply weren’t possible previously. LiveU will also be able to deliver content directly to our production hub as we begin to move to remote production.”

Anyone notice any difference on day one ? I think I saw one live shot from a stage-side camera, so it's a no from me ...

[Googol]

I'm an idiot and couldn't even watch todau, but I don't see road side live cameras mentioned anywhere.

[stefanvv]

Not a single word about Suninen ahead of Ogier and fighting with the tarmac expert on the highlights?!? Disappointing,

[Berke]

Not a single word about Suninen ahead of Ogier and fighting with the tarmac expert on the highlights?!? Disappointing,
No mention of him in red bull tv either. Weird.

[er88]

Watched the highlights of day 1 on AllLive before this first stage of the day, they've got a new commentator who I recognise from the old IRC days on eurosport.

Like the way that the cringey faux live bullshit is no more. Proper old skool reporting/commentary which suits highlights the best. A positive sign (for me anyway).

[AnttiL]

Has Desborough been on this weekend at all?

[er88]

Has Desborough been on this weekend at all?Yeah but not a lot. Doing a few small bits of reporting and was commentating on the first stage.

[KKS]

This new commentator really cool! If we can strike out Jon from any commentary in WRC it would be great!

[KiwiWRCfan]

This new commentator really cool! If we can strike out Jon from any commentary in WRC it would be great!

it is Andrew Coley from WRX who was commentating SS7 with Becs Williams https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx9M4TTVF1A

[drive]

Link plane

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D25eNNcWkAAoLme.jpg:large

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Anyone notice any difference with the new tech employed for WRC+ on TdC. Cant say I have.

[gheeD]

Anybody else notice the added smoothness in the onboards on wrc+ this rally? Looks like they might be 60 fps now.

[KKS]

Anybody else notice the added smoothness in the onboards on wrc+ this rally? Looks like they might be 60 fps now.
No. WRC+ still have 25fps 1280*720*25fps it's a "HD" with 2000kbps

But they film 5 yrs or so in 50fps as original show, only cut for WRC+ to 25fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63w4kQFKKSw

[AnttiL]

When they show the live stages on Finnish TV, the frame rate is higher.

[Franky]

No. WRC+ still have 25fps 1280*720*25fps it's a "HD" with 2000kbps

But they film 5 yrs or so in 50fps as original show, only cut for WRC+ to 25fps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63w4kQFKKSw

Broadcast HD standard in PAL is 50i.

[gheeD]

Hmm, interesting. There is definitely a difference in the smoothness of the onboards for corsica, but going back to previous rallies happened to click on the shell v-power super specials on mexico and those also are very smooth playback, whilst other stages seem to be older-style less smooth playback.

edit: hmm maybe most of the mexico stages are smooth aswell. But Sweden and Monte are old style onboards that are definitely not so pleasing to watch

[GigiGalliNo1]

Desborough does the intro for the highlights and small parts, also does the "Free" Live stages which are 2-3 per weekend in commentary. Remeber the original WRCAllLive stuff?

Coley does the 24 min highlights this weekend and has been doing Live Coverage.

Very 2000's feeling watching the WRC coverage this weekend with his voice. It's excellent and his knowledge too and the way he expresses everything is just refreshing!

[KKS]

Broadcast HD standard in PAL is 50i.
I know, I just described what you get in WRC+ when you click to "HD" label in settings. 1280*720 x 25fps x 2000kbps

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC Promoter director of content and production Florian Ruth said: “We are using LiveU in conjunction with our RF and satellite workflow, allowing us to significantly expand our coverage without having to worry about access to certain parts of events or rely on motorcycles to deliver the additional captured footage to us.

“In order to continue to fully engage existing viewers and to attract new audiences, we constantly need to innovate. Using LiveU is allowing us to think differently and to bring a fresh level of dynamism to our content as we can use locations at each event that simply weren’t possible previously."

This is the bit I was reading and hoping for more stage-side cameras.

[Googol]

I'm not even sure from the text you quoted whether it's about live images or quikcker recovery of recorded images.

[SubaruNorway]

WRC Promoter director of content and production Florian Ruth said: “We are using LiveU in conjunction with our RF and satellite workflow, allowing us to significantly expand our coverage without having to worry about access to certain parts of events or rely on motorcycles to deliver the additional captured footage to us.

“In order to continue to fully engage existing viewers and to attract new audiences, we constantly need to innovate. Using LiveU is allowing us to think differently and to bring a fresh level of dynamism to our content as we can use locations at each event that simply weren’t possible previously."

This is the bit I was reading and hoping for more stage-side cameras.

They have, they are uploading the footage and broadcasted a few min later

[mknight]

I haven't tried this before but here on Corsica both today and yesterday I wanted to watch different "mediazone" segments and the last few mins are always missing. (typically interview with 2-3 drivers) and what is there is cut-off mid sentence.

[seb_sh]

Some thoughts on wrc+ coverage:

I think comparing to let's say a year ago there are clear improvements but they have been gradual so sometimes it's easy to miss them. Watching Corsica I was thinking that now the coverage is pretty good, I'm glad I signed up for the full year.

The things I like
- directing showing more relevant drivers where possible - I noticed several times cutting between Tanak and Evans when battling, or showing drivers as they go through the splits so commentators can make relevant comments (it's something that I wished for as showing cars go one by one on the same section gets boring)
- director and commentators better working together in general
- showing splits on screen
- Julian Porter - sometimes he rambles but he often makes good observations: strange behavior of cars, oversteer/understeer that drivers often confirm at end of stage, watches splits and deduces stuff (like Ogier faster on the dirty sections etc). Overall quite happy with him and the commentary/reporter team in general with a few exceptions (more on that later).
- fewer and fewer technical issues
- in Sweden they used picture in picture for stage end interviews, i quite liked that, is it gone?

Things I don't like
- Desborough - I get that he's trying to casual/color commentary but he talks too much, repeats the same things over and over (I have PTSD from hearing about Meeke's hometown)
- That damn RPM thing at the top of the screen - it's distracting and dumb, who thought of putting rally car RPM on a spinny disk thing at the top of the screen?!

Things to improve
- image quality
- "natural sounds" audio option - For F1 I use this when I get sick of Brundle
- less generic driver questions

I probably forgot something but overall I'm happy to pay for it especially now that it's quite a good era of WRC.

[GigiGalliNo1]

I've spoken to Becs and some production crew.

They are against "natural" sound option (at the moment).

The RPM graphic might change but I don't find it distracting...

Can everyone admit that Andrew Coley has to do WRC coverage? He's been awesome on the daily highlights, not as excited at Paul King - where for example, if PK were commentating the part of Loeb's small off, PK would have told us before that he was about to go off, and then when he does go off be all excited and throw all his commentary notes in the air! Whilst Coley is calm and projects his comments with ease. I believe in RX he's more high pitched and excited as it's (RX) 1000% Live Action non-stop! :rollseyes: So it's nice to hear Andrew Coley on WRC!! Reminds me of Mark who use to commentate in the early 2000's.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

"They are against "natural" sound option (at the moment)."

WHY ???

[AnttiL]

I also liked Coley's commentary. He said on twitter "I was covering for someone this weekend, hope to do some more in future."

[EstWRC]

Coley was brilliant, he is a must be.

[mousti]

Coley was brilliant, he is a must be.In the IRC era he was also the best English commentator by far.

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[GigiGalliNo1]

PK was unavailable.

Also, there might be one commentator we've had for many many years, not returning to the WRC. And it's not Jon.

[Franky]

PK was unavailable.

Also, there might be one commentator we've had for many many years, not returning to the WRC. And it's not Jon.

It's always sad to see someone leave but I personally think the broadcast team needs more fresh blood.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It's always sad to see someone leave but I personally think the broadcast team needs more fresh blood.

So true. It needs a total refresh and change to a serious style instead of all the blather and banter.

[DoN_cz]

I'm in a process of choosing new TV. Support of WRC+ might be one of the factors to be considered, so what are your experiences with WRC+ and Smart TVs?

[sonnybobiche]

I'm in a process of choosing new TV. Support of WRC+ might be one of the factors to be considered, so what are your experiences with WRC+ and Smart TVs?

Support for WRC+ was the only reason we bought a Fire TV box rather than Roku or Apple TV back in 2016.

The WRC+ app is a piece of shit (actual human shit) and the programmers should be shot, but the Fire Stick itself is pretty great.

IMO, you should never, ever buy a TV for its built-in "smart" features. They'll be outdated even before you unpack it. Just get the best picture you can afford, and then spend $30 or $40 and buy a Fire Stick or Chromecast or whatever to plug into it.

[flykas]

I'm in a process of choosing new TV. Support of WRC+ might be one of the factors to be considered, so what are your experiences with WRC+ and Smart TVs?

Samsung smartTV's support WRC+ app and it work as good as on other devices. Also it's interface is really fast so I guess you wouldn't need any additional box for it.

[Indreq]

I prefer Philips due to their ambilight, currently i have it with Android (model 50PUS7303/12), so WRC+ app plays like charm.

[DoN_cz]

I went with the same Philips TV as you. Tested the WRC+ app and seems to work quite well.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What is the picture quality on TV's with the WRC+ App ?

The only drawback for me in having WRC+ All Live via BTSport is its only in SD.

I also have Chromecast but the picture quality on that is also quite poor.

[USER47]

Is it just me who can't stand the blonde lady in the studio? She just speak in such an irritating way. Either she blurts out 3 sentences in 2 seconds, or she randomly slows down to one syllable per 2 seconds, the whole cadence of her speach is extremely strange and makes it hard to focus on what she is actually talking about.

[EstWRC]

Agreed, liked her in the beginning but not anymore.

and she doesnt know anything about rallying, pure presenter....Friday the top3 were on the stage and she said "Tänak is faster than someone", then paused and said "faster than Meeke" although Meeke wasnt even on the stage.

[AnttiL]

PK and Becs were clearly running out of things to talk about during Mina Clavero. "the scenery is stunning, isn't it" "it's like moon, isn't it" "the spectators are so passionate, aren't they" "there's so many of them and they have came here days ago, aren't they" even Julian Porter could have offered a some sort of a story to fill in the blank moment.

[EstWRC]

Actually I’d like them all changed for new ones. So tired of all of them.

Colin has gone ?

[deephouse]

Andrew Coley would be great for this sport.

[mousti]

Andrew Coley would be great for this sport.

For sure, was also the best commentator during IRC era. I'm really tired of Becsy her chattering, I found it already not so professional during the WRCRadio era..

[AnttiL]

Actually I’d like them all changed for new ones. So tired of all of them.

Colin has gone ?

I think he has just this rally off. As you noticed there was no stage end interviews on the first stage of Saturday. It’s practically impossible to get there because there is no access roads, as the next stage starts soon after on the same road. Less stage end interviews, less people doing them.

[AnttiL]

Andrew Coley would be great for this sport.

He’s too occupied with rallycross. Would be great though.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Actually I’d like them all changed for new ones. So tired of all of them.

Colin has gone ?

Agreed. I watch mostly with the sound turned right down.

Btw Colin was in just in Australia so missed Argentina.

[er88]

When they put Molly and Becs on commentary at the same time I muted it. Christ it was worse than the Becs/ Jon D combination. Just shut the fuck up, you don't have to talk non stop for the sake of it

Andrew Coley would be great, and his reporting style on the highlights in Corsica made that watchable too. I genuinely couldn't care less now if they all got replaced, besides Julian Porter who is at least knowledgeable. Nicky Grist/ George Donaldson have had one off appearances before and they should've been asked back, but it seems like it's more like "jobs for the boys", as in it's the same select group of folk for years and it never changes. It's so stale. I know he does some Red Bull tv stuff but Luis Moya is another who'd be good to listen to and is a proper rally man.

[AnttiL]

No preview magazine for Chile? They usually appear on Friday

[AnttiL]

No preview magazine for Chile? They usually appear on Friday

now it's there

[Mirek]

Anyone else getting messages "too many connections with this account" ? I am connected on only one device so I am wondering if that is some error or if someone stole my account.

[AL14]

Anyone else getting messages "too many connections with this account" ? I am connected on only one device so I am wondering if that is some error or if someone stole my account.

I'm ok. Actually you can connect up to two devices at the same time. I would change the password but I suspect it's wrc+ mistake and your account has not been stolen.

[AnttiL]

I sometimes get that message when I've used the stream on two devices, not even simultaneously. But a restart/relogin usually helps.

I realized I can chromecast a tab from my browser while the in-app cast function does not work.

[Mirek]

Thanks guys, seems like after app restart it's not popping up anymore.

[FAlonso]

Anyone else getting messages "too many connections with this account" ? I am connected on only one device so I am wondering if that is some error or if someone stole my account.Same happening to me, randomly...

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[Japé]

The error message might have also some linkage to WRC+ server capacity being on high need, since e.g. during the Rally Sweden power stage I got it every two minutes or so. Also it appeared when switched to full screen mode in mobile device, with small screen it appeared less frequent or not at all.

[AnttiL]

Distorted voice for anyone else?

EDIT: It was just my TV/Chromecast

[the sniper]

I'm not sure why we had an extended 'Julian Porter chats Rally with attractive women from local social media' segment in the studio, but at least it was nice to look at...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I'm not sure why we had an extended 'Julian Porter chats Rally with attractive women from local social media' segment in the studio, but at least it was nice to look at...

Probably for the S.American fans. Like the Spanish comms on All Live.

[the sniper]

It's days like this where we mustn't forget how invaluable All Live really is, regardless of its faults.

[EstWRC]

horrible feed past weekend...the black outs, then they have nothing to talk about during the stages, so instead of shutting their mouths and let us enjoy the view and hear co-drivers they talk about the weather and about whatever.....they miss all the action on right time....

i really liked them back in the radios days, i mean Becs and Colin and etc but cant stand them on Alllive at all anymore, and im sayin the same like i said a month ago, we need fresh and new faces there, a new start.

[Katvala]

Agreed, and from different countries as well. It's so noticeable when they get a guest commentator, like Østberg previously, Hirvonen this rally etcetera. It is much better to listen to

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

The constant talking over the car and co-driver is sooo annoying.

No good just moaning on here though... email them and keep emailing til they listen.

WE WANT A PURE SOUND OPTION.

[T16]

The constant talking over the car and co-driver is sooo annoying.

No good just moaning on here though... email them and keep emailing til they listen.

WE WANT A PURE SOUND OPTION.

Are you still scamming WRC+ for free Eddie, or are you paying now?

[KiwiWRCfan]

i really liked them back in the radios days, i mean Becs and Colin and etc but cant stand them on Alllive at all anymore, and im sayin the same like i said a month ago, we need fresh and new faces there, a new start.

My guess is that in radio days Becs & Colin probably had a lot more freedom in what they could do. With All Live there will be various producers and directors deciding what type of content will be presented, in what manner, by whom. The presenters / commentators we see and hear are part of a much larger production team.

[Franky]

i really liked them back in the radios days, i mean Becs and Colin and etc but cant stand them on Alllive at all anymore, and im sayin the same like i said a month ago, we need fresh and new faces there, a new start.

It's the difference of mediums. In radio you need to have lots of colourful commentary to paint a picture in the listeners heads, but with TV you do not need to do it to such extent. Also in TV there's no need to fill every second with at least one syllable.

During Argentina I watched the daily highlights show, something that I hadn't watched for ages, and to be honest, I pretty much skipped to the end while hoping to catch some moments on the way. The "as live" commentary got annoying after some time as when you are watching a highlights or review, you are interested in information to get you back up to date.

Unfortunately, I have a feeling they have loads of work to improve their products. And I'm not even talking about technical side, but the actual produced product.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

MID-SEASON SCHEDULE WRC+
22 June: Safari Rally Highlights 1990
26 June: Greatest Rallies: Safari
29 June: Safari Rally Highlights 2001
4 July: WRC History, Classic Stages and Crashes and Onboards
5 July: WRC 2019 Mid-Season Highlights
12-14 July: Shell Helix Rally Estonia - WRC Promotional Event
20 July: Highlights Rally Japan 2004
25. July: Preview Magazine Rally Finland

[Morte66]

MID-SEASON SCHEDULE WRC+
Hey thanks, I didn't realise they even had such a thing. I'll be on a boat with no internet for the first two, but I'll look forward to the rest.

[stefanvv]

Hey thanks, I didn't realise they even had such a thing. I'll be on a boat with no internet for the first two, but I'll look forward to the rest.

You can watch them later.

[dnb]

Agreed, and from different countries as well. It's so noticeable when they get a guest commentator, like Østberg previously, Hirvonen this rally etcetera. It is much better to listen to

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Yes, more ex-drivers please. Would also be fun with people who did not reach the top level.

[AnttiL]

WRC+ has a Safari special history episode

[KKS]

FIN2019 - 20% off for year subscribe

[Katvala]

Think they've been listening. On all the stages they've been using in picture view for the interviews at stage end and showing other car driving at the same time. Much better!

But still the liveTV stages aren't as good, with Julian and desberough. Also wish they could stop the music and replay things

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[Eli]

Is it just me or does WRC+ have a lot of lags right now?

[GigiGalliNo1]

Lag? What lag? You mean a delay of 3 seconds to twitter? Or the timing system?

[Portimao]

Lag? What lag? You mean a delay of 3 seconds to twitter? Or the timing system?

There was a stream stuttering in the morning

[GravelBen]

Its freezing every 5-10 minutes for me tonight, have to refresh it each time.

[cali]

No lag for me

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[Portimao]

Think they've been listening. On all the stages they've been using in picture view for the interviews at stage end and showing other car driving at the same time. Much better!

But still the liveTV stages aren't as good, with Julian and desberough. Also wish they could stop the music and replay things

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They already forgot how to picture in picture

[Katvala]

They already forgot how to picture in pictureNot on the stages with Becs as far as I've seen

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[KKS]

Lag? What lag? You mean a delay of 3 seconds to twitter? Or the timing system?
each 3rd or 4th frame was dropped and was impossible to watch. It's a source problem, you can re-watch on all-live

[GravelBen]

And WRC+ craps out halfway through the powerstage.

[Katvala]

Runs fine here what's the issue?

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[GravelBen]

Its back for me now, dropped out for about 5 minutes.

Wasn't just my internet because it dropped out for my brother in another town 400km away at the same time.

[Katvala]

Ah. I missed a couple minutes as well but that was my wifi disappearing from my list lol

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC fan survey with some questions on WRC+:

https://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/august-2019/fan-survey/page/6598--12-12-.html

[bomber21]

I did that survey. Time consuming but useful.

[Timmy]

Is it me or is the way the lady at the studio speaks just weird?
She sounds like she's doing a trailer for an action movie. Unnatural pauses between words and hearing her speak that way hurts my brain.

[Katvala]

Is it me or is the way the lady at the studio speaks just weird?
She sounds like she's doing a trailer for an action movie. Unnatural pauses between words and hearing her speak that way hurts my brain.Yep we have discussed it previously. It is a bit over the top and out of place.

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[Rally Power]

Is it me or is the way the lady at the studio speaks just weird?
She sounds like she's doing a trailer for an action movie. Unnatural pauses between words and hearing her speak that way hurts my brain.

I like her; she may overperform a bit but at least one can perfectly understand what she says, unlikely what happens with the mumbling alternative presenter. Anyway, they should get Molly as main hostess; she’s nice and motorsport experienced.

[MentalParadox]

Why doesn't Germany have any live stages available for normal subscribers? They usually do SS1 at least... We're halfway into Saturday and still nothing?

[AnttiL]

Why doesn't Germany have any live stages available for normal subscribers? They usually do SS1 at least... We're halfway into Saturday and still nothing?

Arena Panzerplatte 1 is the Saturday TV stage. It's the next one, driven in 80 minutes from now.

It was weird that SS1 was not televised.

[GigiGalliNo1]

I like her; she may overperform a bit but at least one can perfectly understand what she says, unlikely what happens with the mumbling alternative presenter. Anyway, they should get Molly as main hostess; she’s nice and motorsport experienced.

I believe she won't be back for a while, finishing up at Rally Australia as Molly is having a baby!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SSS1 at Rally Turkey is not live on a BT Sport channel... only on the 'Red Button'. Why is this when their channels are just showing old pre-recorded football & speedway ? :(

[AnttiL]

Apparently Kiri is now doing stage end interviews for the first time?

[Eli]

Apparently Kiri is now doing stage end interviews for the first time?

Seems that way....

[KKS]

Onboards now in 720p@50fps - pretty nice to watch now

[AnttiL]

Onboards now in 720p@50fps - pretty nice to watch now

Hasn't it been already for some time now?

[SubaruNorway]

Hasn't it been already for some time now?

It was on a few cars earlier in the year, then it went away in Finland to what looked like 480p

[AnttiL]

I've had the Heartbeat Error a couple of times on this rally, haven't had it in a long time

[Eli]

The level of WRC+ this weekend has been appalling, really bad coverage, can't believe they are the only ones showing the championship, being this unprofessional.

[AnttiL]

It's a really challenging terrain. I've heard from an ex-WRC driver that the Welsh forests have the worst phone coverage of the whole season.

[Eli]

It's a really challenging terrain. I've heard from an ex-WRC driver that the Welsh forests have the worst phone coverage of the whole season.

I'm sorry, if you can't get a proper coverage for it, don't go there in the first place...if the service was free, I would've kept quiet, but since it does cost money, I do expect for better coverage, maybe they should consider moving this rally some place else...or replace it all together...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

My biggest gripe is still the lack of a pure sound option. The constant chatting shit from the commentators ruins so many stages. :(

[cali]

Worse coverage in 2 years

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[stefanvv]

I've had the Heartbeat Error a couple of times on this rally, haven't had it in a long time

It's normal message when your session has expired with running video. At least that was in my case this weekend.

[GigiGalliNo1]

My biggest gripe is still the lack of a pure sound option. The constant chatting shit from the commentators ruins so many stages. :(

Nearly got a smack in the head from Becs after suggesting this as fans want it.

It's a No so far... hope it changes!

[AnttiL]

I know for a fact that pure sound for All Live has been in consideration, but I haven't heard about its progress in a few months

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Thanks for the above... some hope at least ! :)

[Rallyper]

We want pure sound at least between finish and stopline. So much information from driver/codriver chatting after stage...

[Katvala]

We want pure sound at least between finish and stopline. So much information from driver/codriver chatting after stage...The awful slow Mo with techno music bit after they finish... In Wales they occasionally used that on All live stages as well.

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[AnttiL]

We want pure sound at least between finish and stopline. So much information from driver/codriver chatting after stage...

Some cars (at least Toyota) turn off the intercom when they switch to road mode after the finish line. Also, you would need to be able to provide translations in order to use that as a content.

[Katvala]

Some cars (at least Toyota) turn off the intercom when they switch to road mode after the finish line. Also, you would need to be able to provide translations in order to use that as a content.I think most people knows a bit of other languages as well, some words. Then there's tone of voice and body language.

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[Rallyper]

And it could easily be mandatory to keep intercom on after finish line...

[KKS]

Some cars (at least Toyota) turn off the intercom when they switch to road mode after the finish line. Also, you would need to be able to provide translations in order to use that as a content.
But on onboards section after rally we hear clear all comments. They cut off only on live stream, for a reason :/

[AnttiL]

But on onboards section after rally we hear clear all comments. They cut off only on live stream, for a reason :/

False. On Toyota they cut off on WRC+ onboards

[EstWRC]

yep, i miss hearing Tänak cursing afte the stage end :D

[AnttiL]

To me it seems Tänak and Järveoja never talk during that bit

[meh]

To me it seems Tänak and Järveoja never talk during that bit

I think they have learned it (in hard way (?)). I remember some example from Poland (with Ford, whatever the year was) when rear aero just felt off, then it was (understandable) pure frustration and he sent everyone to everywhere. It's probably easier to swallow those emotions and get rid of them later on some other way than trying to beautify your words later.

[Mise]

Got a promo email saying something exciting is coming up in 2020.
Could that be WRC+ that works :D

[Portimao]

Molly, Abby and Kiri are all pregnant. What's going on there during rallies? :-)

[AnttiL]

Molly, Abby and Kiri are all pregnant.

https://twitter.com/abistephens/status/1174996886501113856 :(

[T16]

https://twitter.com/abistephens/status/1174996886501113856 :(

That’s dreadful.

[tomhlord]

Got a promo email saying something exciting is coming up in 2020.
Could that be WRC+ that works :D

Certainly, seem to by hyping up something.

What's the odds it's live eSports?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Got a promo email saying something exciting is coming up in 2020.


Pure sound option pleeease !

[Katvala]

Got a promo email saying something exciting is coming up in 2020.
Could that be WRC+ that works :DDo you have a copy of that, I didn't recieve any :)

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[Mirek]

Got a promo email saying something exciting is coming up in 2020.
Could that be WRC+ that works :D

Or simply a new season?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Do you have a copy of that, I didn't recieve any :)

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That's all it says, "Something exciting is coming up in 2020 !"

[er88]

Doubt they'd hype a non commentary option that much, if that ever gets introduced it will be done with minimal fuss as not to take too much away from the current commentators they pay for.

Would be cool if you could select what live onboards you want to watch and maybe follow a certain driver (or two split screen) live, but that is probably impossible to do?

[stefanvv]

Got a promo email saying something exciting is coming up in 2020.
Could that be WRC+ that works :D

If I can chose which car to watch live, it's worth the excitement.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

At least with a choice of onboard it would be with pure sound.

[KKS]

I guess they switch to @50fps ... finally, after years of filming in 50fps they will show it for us. It's really "exciting" for sure

[Rally Power]

Hoping for some ex-drivers resident commentators, like in Red Bull TV show.

[AnttiL]

Hoping for some ex-drivers resident commentators, like in Red Bull TV show.

That would be great, but I doubt it would be marketed like this. Same with the pure sound option...for sure it would be more of a silent release.

If they could do some selecting between different footages, that would be exciting.

[Crazy J]

What you think about the new presenter woman, having English level of Suninen and seemingly very light knowledge from WRC?

WRC+ crew isn't going to right direction. Like said above, e.g. they could have ex-drivers in the studio and out there. Also Molly was great presenter as being race driver herself and Anders Grondal's wife. Kiri seems to have always good energy and attitude overall, being in top of situations 95% of the time.

[EstWRC]

she is plain horrible

id like to see all new faces there, tired of them all actually

[SubaruNorway]

she is plain horrible

id like to see all new faces there, tired of them all actually

At least she's polite and say's thanks to people...

You will have a few months off when they go on maternity leave, they are obviously training Leticia for next year as she's standing in i guess.

[EstWRC]

oh god thats the last thing i wanted to hear...

[KKS]

All presenters pregnant, so they search some non-pregnant people and then find how many knowledge they have about rallying.
Thanks that Julian non-pregnant and bring some competence to studio :)

[KKS]

this two girls should seat somewhere. Please give a mic to Colin and than real show starts

[Portimao]

At least Kiri speaks fluently while Leticia seems kinda retarded lol

[dnb]

She has to stand in front of the camera or follow the reporters while not getting to speak most of the time. That's guaranteed awkwardness.

[the sniper]

Yeah this setup really didn't work. Colin didn't seem to know what he was doing there or didn't wish to play ball, Leticia has neither the depth of knowledge in the sport or enough familiarity with the English language to just 'wing it' in a scenario like this. Kiri was fine, as she can just keep talking and keep the thing going.

[Timmy]

That Leticia is a treat to look at but my god when she opens her mouth it's unpleasant. I'm not a native english speaker myself but her accent is really unpleasant to listen to.
If they want to add some eye candy to the studio there must be presenters out there who tick both boxes - are hot and also know what they're talking about. And speak english as a first language.

[KKS]

Accent isn't worse thing. But she don't know what to talk, and than speak veeeerrryyyy sloooowwwllyy and this annoying the most!

[GigiGalliNo1]

Yeah... no... next presenter to test out please!

Needs to be an english speaking or at least someone who sounds a bit smarter...

[KKS]

They need fire two of this four. Jon and this new girl and things will improve straight away