Wrc+

[Allez Andruet]

Do Finland 2014 onboards work for anyone else? First 11 stages seem to work, but the rest of them just leave the spinner forever and nothing happens. I'd like to see Myhinpää onboard in that form.

They don't work for me either.

[Andre Oliveira]

So all stages live?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DTQFf2fWkAEuahv?format=jpg&name=large

[EstWRC]

Promo code. Nice :p

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Seems confirmed - "Watch like never before" All Live ! :D

[tc10a]

"From 2018 onwards - starting from Rally Monte Carlo - we offer to all fans all stages live on WRC+. Over 25 hours per event. Between the stages with studio analysis and live from the service park" Oliver Ciesla WRC Promoter at Autosport show

Great achievment - the start of a new era.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Pictures will be from helicopter, drones and onboards. Also studio analysis, interviews and SP live between stages.

[EstWRC]

That came out of nowhere. Didn’t believe it so far

[Franky]

"From 2018 onwards - starting from Rally Monte Carlo - we offer to all fans all stages live on WRC+. Over 25 hours per event. Between the stages with studio analysis and live from the service park" Oliver Ciesla WRC Promoter at Autosport show

Great achievment - the start of a new era.

I wouldn't call it an achievement. But in the category of "Finally" or "What took so long".

New era, yes.

[rallye-vid]

The promo code doesn't work yet ;)

[SubaruNorway]

Man, 25 hours? We're not going to get much done anymore on weekends... :p

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It's been possible and done before on some European WRC events, but for the others (like Mexico, Argentina) it will be a first and more of a challenge

[sindroms]

8.99 euros per month or 89.99 euros for 12 months.

[HarriK]

8.99 euros per month or 89.99 euros for 12 months.

My WRC+ page shows still 49,99Euros per 12months.

[sindroms]

My WRC+ page shows still 49,99Euros per 12months.

Full article - http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/january-2018/wrc-all-live-launch--/page/5121--12-12-.html

[PLuto]

My WRC+ page shows still 49,99Euros per 12months.

It will not be wrc+, but wrc+ all live. You will need upgraded version.

[Simmi]

IF they can pull this off then it's superb and I'll happily pay that. Was concerned they'd put out maybe one onboard stream and call it 'live'. But all the signs look good. Wonder where the extra money has come from - or whether they are trying to recoup a lot of it through the increased fee?

[RS]

That's quite incredible and sounds very expensive to produce! Will extra fees from 'WRC+ all live' really cover this?

I presume BT Sport will still only have the power stage live and maybe the Saturday stage live too from basic WRC+..

[Revman]

Is the upgraded version available yet? Cannot find it. I am very excited about this!

[RS]

I presume BT Sport will still only have the power stage live and maybe the Saturday stage live too from basic WRC+..

To answer my own question, BT Sport have the option to also show all stages if they wish to do so..

Maybe on weekends where they don't have much else going on this could happen.

[dodge33cymru]

Well that is certainly interesting...

Hopefully there's a promo code available as otherwise it's probably not worth the yearly fee (basically you only save 1 month paying annually compared to monthly and I'll go to a couple of rounds), but glad to see them give this a shot. I hope they tie it in with WRC Radio and I don't have to listen to more Jon Desborough...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Becs Williams:
WRC Live radio does indeed continue on in 2018 and we will also be integrating into the new 'All Live' product. Myself, @voiceofrally @EmyrPenlan and @go2lisa will all be there for you in 2018. We are looking forward to exciting times ahead!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Arghhhh that's a horrible thought.. Desborough comms on all the live stages !! :disturb: :(

Please let us have a 'pure sound' feed option.

[seb_sh]

I know we've been waiting for a while but I still can't believe this is actually happening, it's amazing! Hopefully the coverage and commentators will be good!

[AL14]

The news is great and the new features are very welcome.
Let's see how it will be in Monte

[GigiGalliNo1]

Let´s hope you are right...

I was right

[er88]

I was rightYou don't hear that often....

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[sonnybobiche]

I hope they tie it in with WRC Radio and I don't have to listen to more Jon Desborough...

Really? That's what I fear the most, that the studio segments will basically be WRC Radio with a camera. It's already so banal and leashed. Aside from the sort of news that you can also get from reading the "text updates", you can be sure that absolutely nothing interesting will be said. They're insiders! They hear rumors all the time! They have their own opinions! Why are they so pathologically afraid of saying anything interesting or controversial? Are they that desperate to keep getting invited to the Citroen VIP area for lunch?

What made the Red Bull TV coverage such a breath of fresh air was not that they had interviews or better graphics. It was that the hosts and interviews were actually mildly interesting and said mildly interesting things. They didn't sound like they were afraid for their jobs if they said something that upset someone. Movistar+ in Spain has a really great one hour panel discussion after each rally with regular guests like Luis Moya, Carlos Del Barrio, and WRC reporters. All they do is talk about real inside info, gossip, speculation, predictions, funny stories, opinions. It's fantastic! Here's a random episode from a few years back: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x27gfhy

There is absolutely zero reason why the English-language coverage has to be so stale in comparison. You need people who will speak their minds. Mike Chen, Colin Clark, Nicky Grist, Martin Holmes. Not necessarily those four, but people like them. Sit them down at a big table, point the camera, and just let them go at it. If the live commentary ends up being Jon Desborough making puns and the studio segments are Becs Williams talking about the weather as they were flying in, telling us the next stage start time, and not acknowledging in any way that some spectator just got hit by a car on live TV, I will unsubscribe.

[KiwiWRCfan]

Ben Constanduros sent several tweets yesterday about the WRCplus All Live announcements. Ben was a breath of fresh air when he filled in as part of commentary team for 1 or 2 rounds last year. Could he possibly be part of the new WRC + All Live presenting team ?
His twitter account is @BenConsty if you want to see what he tweeted yesterday.

[er88]

Only a minor point, but still a plus point for me; It'll be nice to watch a live stage again where the top guys get the most air time/ coverage. (On the first day)

Bugs me a little always seeing the likes of Sheikh Khalid crawling through a stage on the Saturday or Sunday, and getting the most coverage compared to the top guys coming behind. Then you see in full screen Khalid or whoever it is pulling up to the stop line, taking ages to take their helmet off and then doing an interview when plenty of action is being missed. At least minimise some of the drivers interviews in a smaller screen with audio, while showing us live pictures of the main guys blasting through the stage in a bigger screen. It's not difficult.

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[AnttiL]

Only a minor point, but still a plus point for me; It'll be nice to watch a live stage again where the top guys get the most air time/ coverage. (On the first day)

Bugs me a little always seeing the likes of Sheikh Khalid crawling through a stage on the Saturday or Sunday, and getting the most coverage compared to the top guys coming behind. Then you see in full screen Khalid or whoever it is pulling up to the stop line, taking ages to take their helmet off and then doing an interview when plenty of action is being missed. At least minimise some of the drivers interviews in a smaller screen with audio, while showing us live pictures of the main guys blasting through the stage in a bigger screen. It's not difficult.

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I think the live stages are timed in the way that they can show all cars through all onstage cameras at the end of the stage. The first cars are shown for a longer time through onboard and helicopter, but once the first car gets to the finish the broadcast goes to the normal rhythm of showing a re-run of the start and then going back to the live action. Also, for the top runners on the power stage the start interval is up to 5 minutes so we get extra time for post stage interviews without colliding with next car live action.

However, I don't think this new all stages live will be a similar production as the saturday live stage or power stage. It will be just drones, onboards and helicopter with split times, commentary and post stage interviews. Kind of like expanded WRC radio.

But I agree that it sucks that we usually get to see more minutes of an uninteresting driver.

[GravelBen]

But I agree that it sucks that we usually get to see more minutes of an uninteresting driver.

Its even worse when they waste time showing pre-recorded waffle about what a driver had for breakfast while there are cars live on the stage.

[Watson]

Its even worse when they waste time showing pre-recorded waffle about what a driver had for breakfast while there are cars live on the stage.

Thank you. The worst thing about those cuts are the cheesy segways from the commentators. 'I like my eggs sunny side up, what about you Jari-Matti?' I have to say the live commentry is pretty weak as a whole.

[tomhlord]

Its even worse when they waste time showing pre-recorded waffle about what a driver had for breakfast while there are cars live on the stage.

More of these for 2018 were recorded yesterday at the ASI.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I emailed WRC+ to ask about a 'pure sound only' audio feed option.

They replied:
'We are very much interested in steadily improving our service. However, the suggested feature is not planned yet. We will forward your suggestion to the responsible persons and discuss your suggestion internally.'

If anyone else would like this option please email them at WRC+:
support@service-plus.wrc.com

[Franky]

I suspect that is pretty much an auto-response.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I suspect that is pretty much an auto-response.

Cant be as if refers to a suggested option.

Please contact them or they wont know what option fans prefer... pure sound or boring comms.

[Jinu13]

WRC Plus free trial promo code if anyone's interested: WRC18ASI

[Revman]

WRC + All live launches in "a couple of days" per WRC + Support.

[danon]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohc1bLJ1C2AJMQZhK/giphy.gif

[Andre Oliveira]

Still no WRC+ All Live to subscrive or need subscrive normal and upgrade?

[rage82]

Still no WRC+ All Live to subscrive or need subscrive normal and upgrade?

It's still not available at the moment.

[dodge33cymru]

Cannot understand this promoter at all. Announce a new, novel and interesting product, make it the key feature of your own season launch, but don't have any mention of it anywhere on your website. No 'coming soon', no 'sign up for launch', no more than a news post without a single CTA.

All it did was remind me to cancel my WRC+ subscription (to take advantage of any discount code).

[Simmi]

Cannot understand this promoter at all. Announce a new, novel and interesting product, make it the key feature of your own season launch, but don't have any mention of it anywhere on your website. No 'coming soon', no 'sign up for launch', no more than a news post without a single CTA.

All it did was remind me to cancel my WRC+ subscription (to take advantage of any discount code).

Yep guessing the press conference and the ETA from the web developers did not match up. They've certainly missed a tap-in there.

Like you say at the very least they should be getting people's emails to get all the info as soon as it's ready.

[PLuto]

It is always the same, actual promoteur is working like an amateur in some terms...

[Rally Power]

Why not hold the horses? We’re still a week ahead RMC.

[ESTR]

And what you all will see if you want it immediately? Absolutely nothing. It will be out just at the right time..

[rallyfiend]

And what you all will see if you want it immediately? Absolutely nothing. It will be out just at the right time..

Exactly.

Why on earth would you want to subscribe now?

Wait until later in the week and your 8.99 will cover two events.....

People sure are trying hard to fault something before it even exists....

[PLuto]

Maybe people, which are going personally to Monte, will prefer to make everything regarding payment and registration in time? It is easier to make everything without problems from computer at home than fighting with it somewhere in the middle of Alps...

[ESTR]

With novadays laptops and smarthphones and bandwith everywhere you go I think that's not problem at all. Except if most of the people here still have old Ericsson's.

[dodge33cymru]

Exactly.

Why on earth would you want to subscribe now?

Wait until later in the week and your 8.99 will cover two events.....

People sure are trying hard to fault something before it even exists....Not criticising the service at all, just the promotion of it. From a marketing perspective, 'launching' something when you make no reference to the product anywhere, don't encourage people to sign up.

Don't get me wrong going, I'm really looking forward to the service and I'll sign up the day before MC, but just feel they've missed a chance to make it a wider success and take advantage of the media platform they gave themselves at the Autosport Show.

If anyone came away from that thinking "oh, I want to know when that goes live" or read about it on a site or magazine the days following and thought "I'll check that out", there was no supporting information or anything allowing them to follow up that interest; they're unlikely to get the same media impact when they say "oh, you can sign up now".

I could be wrong, but it surprises me is all.

[ESTR]

Not criticising the service at all, just the promotion of it. From a marketing perspective, 'launching' something when you make no reference to the product anywhere, don't encourage people to sign up.

Don't get me wrong going, I'm really looking forward to the service and I'll sign up the day before MC, but just feel they've missed a chance to make it a wider success and take advantage of the media platform they gave themselves at the Autosport Show.

If anyone came away from that thinking "oh, I want to know when that goes live" or read about it on a site or magazine the days following and thought "I'll check that out", there was no supporting information or anything allowing them to follow up that interest; they're unlikely to get the same media impact when they say "oh, you can sign up now".

I could be wrong, but it surprises me is all.

Best way to promote it is that they could offer free month promo code or with discounted price for month so that fans could see what will be like and then go on.

[V.Gatev]

Hello all, After long break i am here again. I just watched the interview with Ciesla from Autosport event and i think they will promote WRC All live functions during Monte Carlo Rally for free. And after that, everyone can upgrade his account to WRC All live or not. Maybe this is the reason why there are no possibility to upgrade accounts before Monte.

[Watson]

Hello all, After long break i am here again. I just watched the interview with Ciesla from Autosport event and i think they will promote WRC All live functions during Monte Carlo Rally for free. And after that, everyone can upgrade his account to WRC All live or not his WRC+ account. Maybe this is the reason why there are no possibility to upgrade accounts before Monte.

That sounds fair. I really wanted to take a look at it before I uprgade. Turns out we can.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I wonder if they tested the system on WRGB as it shows those stages on the WRC+ advert picture...

[Andre Oliveira]

Dear WRC+ user,

Thanks for your request and your interest in WRC+.

Currently we are pushing hard to update all of our channels for broadcasting all stages of the FIA World Rally Championship LIVE to our WRC fans worldwide.
Our technicians working flat out to provide the best and high quality service to our subscribers.

The updated WRC+ will be launched in the next couple of days. After the launch the new WRC+ All Live Package will be available.

The first All Live Stream will start with the opening two stages at Rallye Monte-Carlo on Thursday 25 January.

More information will follow soon, stay tuned!

Best regards,
your WRC+ Team

[racerx1979]

Dear WRC+ user,

Thanks for your request and your interest in WRC+.

Currently we are pushing hard to update all of our channels for broadcasting all stages of the FIA World Rally Championship LIVE to our WRC fans worldwide.
Our technicians working flat out to provide the best and high quality service to our subscribers.

The updated WRC+ will be launched in the next couple of days. After the launch the new WRC+ All Live Package will be available.

The first All Live Stream will start with the opening two stages at Rallye Monte-Carlo on Thursday 25 January.

More information will follow soon, stay tuned!

Best regards,
your WRC+ Team

Nice! I hope they offer current users an upgrade option. I just received an email this morning saying my WRC+ subscription had been renewed.. :laugh:

[ESTR]

Dear WRC+ user,

Thanks for your request and your interest in WRC+.

Currently we are pushing hard to update all of our channels for broadcasting all stages of the FIA World Rally Championship LIVE to our WRC fans worldwide.
Our technicians working flat out to provide the best and high quality service to our subscribers.

The updated WRC+ will be launched in the next couple of days. After the launch the new WRC+ All Live Package will be available.

The first All Live Stream will start with the opening two stages at Rallye Monte-Carlo on Thursday 25 January.

More information will follow soon, stay tuned!

Best regards,
your WRC+ Team

I just hope that they will provide that feature to all the countries and continents. Not like rallycross when you must have VPN app to fool them to watch..

[racerx1979]

A little off topic, but I've had good success with Nord VPN. Was using PIA, but it's limited and based in the US which is not good from a security provider standpoint.

[GigiGalliNo1]

VypR VPN is the best.

[EstWRC]

Go check on the page now guys www.wrcplus.com , free trial for 7 days

[bomber21]

Nice but they should offer an upgrade option for us classic WRC+ users.

[SubaruNorway]

Nice but they should offer an upgrade option for us classic WRC+ users.

There is a button on the middle right on the first page when you log in to upgrade with a 30 euro discount.

[dodge33cymru]

So, Monte Carlo is free (thanks, nice one!) and there's no event in December. Group the others together and cancel in-between and this whole season will be possible in 6 monthly payments, no?

[tc10a]

Nice but they should offer an upgrade option for us classic WRC+ users.

It's there, just upgraded my account.

[EstWRC]

There is a button on the middle right on the first page when you log in to upgrade with a 30 euro discount.

cant see that, can you make a screenshot?

E: never mind, i misunderstood

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Promo vid https://youtu.be/CRMjYZ__svU

[bomber21]

There is a button on the middle right on the first page when you log in to upgrade with a 30 euro discount.
Thank you, I just updated!

[Andre Oliveira]

Can’t acess by iOS app :(

[ESTR]

One question, do you need at least 10 euros on credit card to subscribe, despite it's free this month? I'm asking because it doesn't allow me to go further.

[bf1_IRL]

cant see that, can you make a screenshot?

E: never mind, i misunderstood

Am I missing something?

I'm only being offered €5 off :/

Also I cannot access the iOS app, they must be taking it offline to upgrade it etc

[pantealex]

If it´s 7-days free, take it next week, not now...

[RM98]

If it´s 7-days free, take it next week, not now...

It's one month with the promocode

[tommeke_B]

There is a button on the middle right on the first page when you log in to upgrade with a 30 euro discount.

I've clicked the button. The whole website went to French, put the language back to English, and now the button is gone. Even if I log in again on another browser, I cannot find a way to upgrade... Oh well...

[FAlonso]

Likewise. Can´t upgrade either. Tried on Windows different browsers, iOS and Android. I´ve contacted the support and there seems to be no easy fix. Apart from creating a new account.

[bf1_IRL]

I was hoping the €30 off would re-appear but it didn't :( although with the €5 off, the 12 month subscription at €84.99 isn't too bad at €7.08 per month (when it was already €4.99 and the promise of much more coverage for an extra 2.09 per month doesn't seem too bad)..

I hope they will do a fantastic job now!

[bomber21]

I upgraded but I got no email confirmation as usual.
I used the Safari browser from my iPhone. I could not find a way to upgrade via iOS app.

[SubaruNorway]

No issues here on Mac with Chrome, took me about 10 sec to upgrade.

[EstWRC]

Weird. I don’t have that

[lnvs]

I don't think 12 month plan is really the "best value". If you don't need access for WRC onboards every day of the year you can pair races for six one month orders. Only Sardinia is alone. Seven individual months to watch every rally €62,98 ;)

[racerx1979]

I was able to upgrade to All Live for $29. Took 5 secs. I am using a VPN connected to Australia, but not sure it made any difference. I also had my previous subscription for many years.

[EightGear]

Could be me, but how can I cancel my WRC+ subscription? I can't find it!

[KiwiWRCfan]

Could be me, but how can I cancel my WRC+ subscription? I can't find it!

step 1 login to your account
step 2 choose "profile"
step 3 page down until you see "subscriptions"
step 4 when you choose your active subscription it will show a renewal date, it should also show a "cancel" or "unsubscribe" button

[EightGear]

step 1 login to your account
step 2 choose "profile"
step 3 page down until you see "subscriptions"
step 4 when you choose your active subscription it will show a renewal date, it should also show a "cancel" or "unsubscribe" button

Usually, yes. However, I don't see the unsubscribe button.

[KiwiWRCfan]

Usually, yes. However, I don't see the unsubscribe button.

you are in the correct place that is where you should see the unsubscribe button. Below is from the FAQ page. See last point if you purchased via Apple iTunes Store or Google Play Store

How can I cancel my subscription?
* You can cancel your monthly subscription immediately at any time and without any reasons.
* If you want to cancel the subscription for the following month, you must cancel at least one day before your subscription automatically renews.
* The cancellation process is located on your profile page.
**** In-App purchases via Apple iTunes Store or Google Play Store have to be cancelled directly in the relevant store.

If that is not the answer I can only suggest contacting tech support using this link https://plus.wrc.com/en/support/contact/

[EstWRC]

iOS users check your updates...just updated the app in my phone and it now has ALL Live feature as well

[FAlonso]

In my case this is getting silly.

I re-did my account through the website and everything seemed to be working.

But when I try to get into my account through the apps ( both on iOS and Android) my credentials are accepted but I have no access to the service. Asks me to subscribe again. Both apps are the latest versions as of today.

I'm starting to wonder if some of these issues are a regional thing. Hence some are having trouble while others aren't.

[Watson]

I just updated the app (iOS) and it seems to be working flawlessly.

[Andre Oliveira]

I have de iOS app updated but can’t see anything. Only in browser of iPhone or desktop. I think that was cause i subscrived by credit card by browser instead iTunes payment. Portugal

[Watson]

Possibly yes, I do use iTunes payment.

[Morte66]

But the really important question is: will it still be Jon Desborough?

[Revman]

App updated. Good to go. Bring on Monte!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Andre Oliveira]

I have de iOS app updated but can’t see anything. Only in browser of iPhone or desktop. I think that was cause i subscrived by credit card by browser instead iTunes payment. Portugal


Several email changed and no fix :( (delete cache is the most common reply eheh)

[Myrvold]

It's one month with the promocode


Hmm, what promocode? :)

[RM98]

hmm, what promocode? :)

wrc18asi

[wwbroe]

wrc18asi

This promocode doesn't seem to be accepted?

[EightGear]

Can't wait for Rally Monte-Cristo to start!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180121/daca620c74275a247ce408c3d9bf2b8d.jpg

[EightGear]

you are in the correct place that is where you should see the unsubscribe button. Below is from the FAQ page. See last point if you purchased via Apple iTunes Store or Google Play Store

How can I cancel my subscription?
* You can cancel your monthly subscription immediately at any time and without any reasons.
* If you want to cancel the subscription for the following month, you must cancel at least one day before your subscription automatically renews.
* The cancellation process is located on your profile page.
**** In-App purchases via Apple iTunes Store or Google Play Store have to be cancelled directly in the relevant store.

If that is not the answer I can only suggest contacting tech support using this link https://plus.wrc.com/en/support/contact/Thanks, it turns out I was logged-in to Google Play with a different account to the one I subscribed to WRC+. So initially I didn't see any subscriptions, but after changing my account I could unsubscribe.

[wwbroe]

Can't wait for Rally Monte-Cristo to start!

Rally Monte Cristo:D

Did youy use the promocode above?

[wwbroe]

Promocode works after all, you just need to put it in capital letters.;)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

But the really important question is: will it still be Jon Desborough?

Just watched the live Power Stage from Rally GB and it was so ruined by Desborough talking non-stop, even over the onboards.

If he is doing the WRC+ Live then I'll have to resort to sound off and listen to rally radio...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

What is the point of the Promo code when you get a 7 days free trial anyway ?

[rallye-vid]

With the code you have one month free, so you can watch sweden rally also.

[Watson]

Maybe we can send a collective letter asking them to change commentators. I want commentry but I'm sure they could do better with other people.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

With the code you have one month free, so you can watch sweden rally also.

How do you sign up for that, I only see an option for 1 free week ?

[rallyfiend]

How do you sign up for that, I only see an option for 1 free week ?

If you can't be bothered to flick back just one page on the forum for the Autosport promocode, then I'm afraid this is going to be too complicated a task for you to grasp.

[rallye-vid]

How do you sign up for that, I only see an option for 1 free week ?

If you apply the code, it will switch to the one month subscription with first month free.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

If you apply the code, it will switch to the one month subscription with first month free.

Thanks, the sensible answer.

[bomber21]

Did anyone get a confirmation email? In the past, I was getting an email each time I was updating my subscription.

[racerx1979]

I did not receive an email, but I was able to login and send we that I have the all live option. Check your account and scroll to the bottoms. Should say something like All Live...

[wwbroe]

Did anyone get a confirmation email? In the past, I was getting an email each time I was updating my subscription.

I received an e-mail :)

[KKS]

Anybody found something new in web-version of plus.wrc.com ? I get only renamed "Live" button to "All live" and all other stuff were the same

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Did anyone get a confirmation email? In the past, I was getting an email each time I was updating my subscription.

I used the Promo code and got an email.

[Rallyper]

Just joined the Supreme level on WRC+. Let´s see what it´s worth.

[er88]

Few questions;

If you use the month long promo code for All live, do you have to enter your card details etc first?

And if so, will it automatically take funds out of your account if you don't cancel it before the free month expires?

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[wwbroe]

Few questions;

If you use the month long promo code for All live, do you have to enter your card details etc first?

And if so, will it automatically take funds out of your account if you don't cancel it before the free month expires?

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Yes, you have to enter your card details, but it will not be charged. However if you do not cancel your membership before expiring date after one month, you will be charged a 8,99 Euro for the next month. If you cancel before the expiring date, you will not pay anything. It is renewed automatically each month.

[markf8691]

It’s making me upgrade via the iOS app, however whenever I click to upgrade it’s making me agree to it via my fingerprint via iTunes, no where to put the promo code in. Anybody else been able to upgrade via the iOS app and use the promo code?

[OHL]

It’s making me upgrade via the iOS app, however whenever I click to upgrade it’s making me agree to it via my fingerprint via iTunes, no where to put the promo code in. Anybody else been able to upgrade via the iOS app and use the promo code?

If you have an exisitng subscription I don`t think you`ll be able to use the promo code. What I did was stop my current subscription and then started a new one on a different email using the promo code. I`ll see how it goes at Monte and Sweden and then decide which level of service to continue for the rest of the season. There may be another way but I found this to be the most straightforward. I also signed up to the new account on the website, rather than using the app as I had done before, to make it easier to manage in the future.

[satnav]

I've just updated to all live and as I had a current subscription I cancelled this and used the promo code, I used my previous sign in and it was all spot on , also received an email confirmation there as well.

See how it goes and take it from there.

[SubaruNorway]

I've just updated to all live and as I had a current subscription I cancelled this and used the promo code, I used my previous sign in and it was all spot on , also received an email confirmation there as well.

See how it goes and take it from there.

But then you have to pay full price when the free period runs out, so does that pay off?

[satnav]

But then you have to pay full price when the free period runs out, so does that pay off?

Should have said i'd only took out another month subscription on + as i'd some previous onboards I wanted to lookup and then this was announced I only take a month now and again so I took the month option as I don't think i'd take the full use of having the year option.

[pantealex]

Rally is ON
WRC All Live is off

[HarriK]

wrc facebook is LIVE!

[eddy707]

Could you give a direct link? I don't use facebook
//
Never mind, found it

https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/videos/vb.35390480677/10155322475705678/?type=3&theater

Edit again, didn't take long to hear Dungannon mentioned already :D

[pantealex]

Bit bizarre decision to have no Live radio from shakedown, RallyFinland have had live radio from shakedown over 10 years now...

[Watson]

Calm down. It's a shakedown. Shakedowns lie it would be a waste of time and money to broadcast them.

[lnvs]

This was a chance to promote "all live". I think they could have shown first runs and then that facebook studio nonsense. Full 4 hours of mostly empty road and couple of these tyre saving runs would have been overkill even for the hardcore fans.

[PLuto]

It is same like every year. Rally started with shakedown, everybody is interested to watch first news and wrc.com and wrc+ is completely dead...

[sonnybobiche]

Some of my thoughts on the live Shakedown stream:

This new lady Kiri Bloore is clearly a professional TV commentator. She is flawless in front of the camera. Whoever hired her for this: good job.

Jon Desborough's commentary was actually not banal. Much of it was even interesting! I really hope that will continue. He did make a couple of mistakes that can be quickly addressed:

1. Every time Bloore was talking to camera, Desborough was looking at her or staring off in the distance. When someone is talking to camera, everyone in the shot needs to be looking into the camera, otherwise it looks awkward.
2. If you make a hand gesture, make sure it will not block your face from view.
3. Don't make any sounds as the other person is speaking unless you actually want to interrupt. If you want to show agreement or disagreement with what someone is saying, just nod or shake your head. Bloore nearly stumbled a couple of times because Desborough interjected as she was talking.
4. The hosts should both be essentially facing the camera, with bodies just sliiightly turned towards each other. Bloore was positioned correctly, but Desborough was turned way too much towards her, so we only saw half his face. This is more the fault of the cameraman and/or producer.

As I said, a couple of easy fixes and he could turn out to be quite good.

Molly Pettit seemed a little nervous and lost for words when she was on her own, but that will come very quickly with a bit of practice. She has had practice interviewing, and it shows, because she was very good with Nandan. One thing I would suggest is to not try to have talking points or times/data on a phone, but instead written down. The phone will always do something unexpected on camera. It will not unlock, it will dim as you're reading it, the thing you're looking for won't load, you'll accidentally swipe away from what you wanted to see, etc. A notebook is much more dependable. See, e.g. Ted's Qualifying Notebook (https://youtu.be/xuBhtbcUpho?t=462).

Production was fairly good for a first run. A few times they cut away to some shots totally unrelated to what the hosts were talking about. The worst of these was when they suddenly cut to the map of the shakedown stage, and it had annoying background music that drowned out the commentary. If you're going to cut away from people who are talking, there should be minimal or no audio on the other shot! And for something important like a live map, you've got to give your host enough advance warning so that she can finish what she was saying and tell the audience what they're about to see. Again, these are simple mistakes for a first timer, I am sure the producer will improve quickly.

Overall, I would say this was better than expected, and very, very promising for the future. Bloore in particular was astonishingly good for someone who (I assume) did not follow WRC before today. As she learns more about all the key players and stories in the service park, I think she could end up being the face of the WRC as much as Paul King is its voice.

What did you all think?

[HarriK]

Why in browser I have new subscription valid but not in my Android app?

[PLuto]

Some of my thoughts on the live Shakedown stream:

This new lady Kiri Bloore is clearly a professional TV commentator. She is flawless in front of the camera. Whoever hired her for this: good job.

Jon Desborough's commentary was actually not banal. Much of it was even interesting! I really hope that will continue. He did make a couple of mistakes that can be quickly addressed:

1. Every time Bloore was talking to camera, Desborough was looking at her or staring off in the distance. When someone is talking to camera, everyone in the shot needs to be looking into the camera, otherwise it looks awkward.
2. If you make a hand gesture, make sure it will not block your face from view.
3. Don't make any sounds as the other person is speaking unless you actually want to interrupt. If you want to show agreement or disagreement with what someone is saying, just nod or shake your head. Bloore nearly stumbled a couple of times because Desborough interjected as she was talking.
4. The hosts should both be essentially facing the camera, with bodies just sliiightly turned towards each other. Bloore was positioned correctly, but Desborough was turned way too much towards her, so we only saw half his face. This is more the fault of the cameraman and/or producer.

As I said, a couple of easy fixes and he could turn out to be quite good.

Molly Pettit seemed a little nervous and lost for words when she was on her own, but that will come very quickly with a bit of practice. She has had practice interviewing, and it shows, because she was very good with Nandan. One thing I would suggest is to not try to have talking points or times/data on a phone, but instead written down. The phone will always do something unexpected on camera. It will not unlock, it will dim as you're reading it, the thing you're looking for won't load, you'll accidentally swipe away from what you wanted to see, etc. A notebook is much more dependable. See, e.g. Ted's Qualifying Notebook (https://youtu.be/xuBhtbcUpho?t=462).

Production was fairly good for a first run. A few times they cut away to some shots totally unrelated to what the hosts were talking about. The worst of these was when they suddenly cut to the map of the shakedown stage, and it had annoying background music that drowned out the commentary. If you're going to cut away from people who are talking, there should be minimal or no audio on the other shot! And for something important like a live map, you've got to give your host enough advance warning so that she can finish what she was saying and tell the audience what they're about to see. Again, these are simple mistakes for a first timer, I am sure the producer will improve quickly.

Overall, I would say this was better than expected, and very, very promising for the future. Bloore in particular was astonishingly good for someone who (I assume) did not follow WRC before today. As she learns more about all the key players and stories in the service park, I think she could end up being the face of the WRC as much as Paul King is its voice.

What did you all think?

It was not bad, but I will prefer, instead of talking, more footage from the stage...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Why in browser I have new subscription valid but not in my Android app?

The Android app was recently updated. Mine kept crashing til I installed the update today and now its fine. Maybe that's your issue...

[HarriK]

The Android app was recently updated. Mine kept crashing til I installed the update today and now its fine. Maybe that's your issue...
Thanks Eddie. I went to googleplay store and app really needed update. Works now fine!

[AnttiL]

I have not yet updated to All Live. When I go to the app or website with my old WRC+ account, I see the All Live streams offered for me. A possible bug, or I just won't see the streams in the evening without updating (or applying promo code)?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WRC SD - just pure sound... keep it up ! :)

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/videos/page/112---2-.html

BUT the recap on WRC+ the picure is fuzzy ?!

https://plus.wrc.com/en/highlights/all/

[Eli]

Hey guys, my WRC+ profile says my subscription says: " Subscribtion active but cancelled." Anyone else has that? and what does it actually mean can I watch Monte or not? why on earth would you give someone that option? why can't it just be cancelled???

[Googol]

Why not? To my understanding that means that subscription is still active, so you can watch, but you have cancelled it, so it won't renew anymore, and eventually becomes inactive (or whatever word they are using).

[KiwiWRCfan]

Hey guys, my WRC+ profile says my subscription says: " Subscribtion active but cancelled." Anyone else has that? and what does it actually mean can I watch Monte or not? why on earth would you give someone that option? why can't it just be cancelled???

Have you "cancelled' your subscription so it does not auto renew but still have some paid for days/weeks/months remaining ? Your account should remain "active" until your paid for period runs out.

[Eli]

Have you "cancelled' your subscription so it does not auto renew but still have some paid for days/weeks/months remaining ? Your account should remain "active" until your paid for period runs out.

Yes I have quite sometime before it won't renew. Thankx for the clarification.

[Sso]

Another problem here, subscribed with promocode yesterday, everythings worked fine.
Today I want to watch onboards from previous seasons on my computer (worked fine yesterday), but when I choose player mode and click start, I get a popup that wants me to login, eventhough I'm already logged on.. I can enter my login again, but it won't help..
On my phone everything works but not on my computer?
Help please :)

[PLuto]

Rally Recap Wednesday Evening official video on wrc+ is crap. Any amateur video on youtube is better :(

[Rallyper]

Another problem here, subscribed with promocode yesterday, everythings worked fine.
Today I want to watch onboards from previous seasons on my computer (worked fine yesterday), but when I choose player mode and click start, I get a popup that wants me to login, eventhough I'm already logged on.. I can enter my login again, but it won't help..
On my phone everything works but not on my computer?
Help please :)

Send them email. Worked earlier last year for me. They answered quckly.

[dupanton]

Another problem here, subscribed with promocode yesterday, everythings worked fine.
Today I want to watch onboards from previous seasons on my computer (worked fine yesterday), but when I choose player mode and click start, I get a popup that wants me to login, eventhough I'm already logged on.. I can enter my login again, but it won't help..
On my phone everything works but not on my computer?
Help please :)

I have the same problem... If you find a solution, please let me know!

[AnttiL]

Maybe try another browser or an incognito window? Maybe your old details are stored in a cookie or something?

[Allez Andruet]

Is that 'WRC18ASI' code for All Live or just for basic WRC+?

[Googol]

Worked at least for me for All Live 3-4 days ago. Didn't check whether it would have given anything for Basic WRC+.

[er88]

Worked at least for me for All Live 3-4 days ago. Didn't check whether it would have given anything for Basic WRC+.All Live claims to give you everything you get on Basic wrc+, with every live stage and live stream on top of that, so it should give you the basic content too?

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[Googol]

What I meant was that I don't know if the bonus code gives any days/weeks/months if you want only the basic WRC+. All Live obviously has everything.

[the sniper]

Is that 'WRC18ASI' code for All Live or just for basic WRC+?

For All Live, as surely that's the point of it. Some were saying it wasn't working anymore but I used it last night and worked fine. Seemingly like Eli, I'd cancelled my WRC+ but had to wait for that months subscription to expire so I could use the promo code. If that expiry date was next week I'd seemingly had to have paid the upgrade. Bit of a design fault or swizz...

Edit: Or start a new account.

[bf1_IRL]

The feed is there / was there.. it is still being broadcast to my chromecast despite the scheduled program being removed from the schedule

[satukata]

monaco info tv live now start podium!!

[satukata]

http://www.monacochannel.mc/Le-Direct LIVE

[Fast Eddie WRC]

http://www.monacochannel.mc/Le-Direct LIVE

Merci ! :cool:

[bf1_IRL]

http://www.monacochannel.mc/Le-Direct

Ah satukata got there before me!

[theracingelf]

WRC+ All Live, except the ceremonial start of the season, that one isn't live...

[SubaruNorway]

Rally Recap Wednesday Evening official video on wrc+ is crap. Any amateur video on youtube is better :(

Looks like it's exported in progressive when it should be interlaced.
I'm happy I don't work in WRC tech support... :p

[quick]

Another problem here, subscribed with promocode yesterday, everythings worked fine.
Today I want to watch onboards from previous seasons on my computer (worked fine yesterday), but when I choose player mode and click start, I get a popup that wants me to login, eventhough I'm already logged on.. I can enter my login again, but it won't help..
On my phone everything works but not on my computer?
Help please :)

Has the problem been resolved? I have the same problem

[Sulland]

All you that have subscibed to WRC+, pls keep us that has not yet, if there are imporovements since last year.
I have subscribed the two last years, but barely used it. If no better content and functionality in 18 I will not spend 50€ this year.

Then I will continue with radio, splits and Ewrc.results.

[Andre Oliveira]

You mean Basic? I subscribed All Live

[V.Gatev]

Be careful with WRC All live upgrade, i have big payment problems with them. I paid 49,99 for basic version in november and last week another 34,99 to upgrade to WRC All live. And suprise - they withdraw 34,99 euros for update and another 84,99 euros without any sence. And after my complaining to their service center they told me - it's no problem for us. So to this moment i paid 169 euros for this stuff.

[er88]

Has the problem been resolved? I have the same problemSame problem for me with the on boards

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[Sulland]

You mean Basic? I subscribed All Live

sorry, I mean the full shabang!

[tomhlord]

Be careful with WRC All live upgrade, i have big payment problems with them. I paid 49,99 for basic version in november and last week another 34,99 to upgrade to WRC All live. And suprise - they withdraw 34,99 euros for update and another 84,99 euros without any sence. And after my complaining to their service center they told me - it's no problem for us. So to this moment i paid 169 euros for this stuff.

Same thing here for me now. I already have regular WRC+ until later this year, but wanted to 'upgrade' to ALL LIVE.

Instead, when you select the 'upgrade' option, it simply charges you the full amount for a years WRC+ ALL LIVE.

Thus, I have effectively paid for several months WRC+ that I can never use again and a brand new, fresh, ALL LIVE subscription starting with todays date at full price. Not an upgrade to my exisiting subscription.

I wish WRC+ ALL LIVE the very best of luck, but the sign-up and upgrade option is disingenuous at best, a rip-off.

It didn't even give me a 'confirm' option, or a way of updating any details/selecting payment method. It just went right ahead with a purchase.

I've asked for a refund to return to my regular WRC+ and expect a response.

[L555MAT]

Has the problem been resolved? I have the same problem

Im getting this problem aswell

[theracingelf]

I've asked for a refund to return to my regular WRC+ and expect a response.

Good luck with that, I've tried that before and you'll get a simple response that they don't do refunds and that's it...

[danon]

https://media.giphy.com/media/26DMVI51iZNtObXhe/giphy.gif

[V.Gatev]

Same thing here for me now. I already have regular WRC+ until later this year, but wanted to 'upgrade' to ALL LIVE.

Instead, when you select the 'upgrade' option, it simply charges you the full amount for a years WRC+ ALL LIVE.

Thus, I have effectively paid for several months WRC+ that I can never use again and a brand new, fresh, ALL LIVE subscription starting with todays date at full price. Not an upgrade to my exisiting subscription.

I wish WRC+ ALL LIVE the very best of luck, but the sign-up and upgrade option is disingenuous at best, a rip-off.

It didn't even give me a 'confirm' option, or a way of updating any details/selecting payment method. It just went right ahead with a purchase.

I've asked for a refund to return to my regular WRC+ and expect a response.

I threatened them with legal action if they did not refund my overpaid money, I expect an answer.

[seb_sh]

Seems many people are having issues with that, it's most likely a bug in their system. I suggest everyone that has the problem to send them some transaction information about the double payment maybe even a bank statement. Hopefully they will recognize the problem and put it right. Stuff like this sucks but I doubt there is ill intent, probably just incompetence so try to enjoy the rally, I doubt they will steal your money.

[car]

Anyone know why I can’t see wrc app when in App Store on iPad?

[V.Gatev]

Seems many people are having issues with that, it's most likely a bug in their system. I suggest everyone that has the problem to send them some transaction information about the double payment maybe even a bank statement. Hopefully they will recognize the problem and put it right. Stuff like this sucks but I doubt there is ill intent, probably just incompetence so try to enjoy the rally, I doubt they will steal your money.

I send to him all information for transaction and they reply: "After rechecking we have to inform you that everything was debited correctly.
If you have any other questions or concerns, please feel free to contact us. We would be happy to help!".

[seb_sh]

wow that's quite bad, and many people having that problem :(

[bomber21]

This is driving me crazy! They did NOT sent me a confirmation email and this is also bad. I am not going to pay so much money because of their bug.

[er88]

Tidy new presenter ;). Good at her job too

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[Duvel]

All working fine here, i like what i see so far!

[steve.mandzij]

WRC radio playing music?!!

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[EightGear]

Rebecca Williams & Paul King on comm.

[theracingelf]

So "All live" actually means: "pre-recorded interviews"?

[Micke_VOC]

Working ok i think but take away that music when the shows the live map..

[Watson]

What made me frown a bit is that when they show the maps of which driver is where in the stage I saw that Tanak was ahead of Neuville. Now even to the untrained eye that is a clear indicator that Neuville has a major problem, yet none of the presenters or other people in the background take a note. Then they show the onboard of Tanak passing Neuville and they're like: 'Oh a Hyundai is stationary, but which one?' We're all very aware of the starting order because we're bloody watching it IN THIS MOMENT. Wake up guys, Jesus Christ.

[itix]

Good first impression of the all live wrc plus thus far from me!

[Duvel]

True that. Biggest foult in thr whole coverage

[ESTR]

Yes agree. And onboards shown only of Ogier, Tanak, Breen, Lappi and Mikkelsen. Second stage only map. I almost fall asleep. And on first stage all that one woman was talking about that she doesn't know what tires they have super soft or soft... What a joke. No times at all even at live timing sections. Live text delayed. Presenters didn't know anything. Boring interviews... Hope that tomorrow will be better.

[Eli]

Yes agree. And onboards shown only of Ogier, Tanak, Breen, Lappi and Mikkelsen. Second stage only map. I almost fall asleep. And on first stage all that one woman was talking about that she doesn't know what tires they have super soft or soft... What a joke. No times at all even at live timing sections. Live text delayed. Presenters didn't know anything. Boring interviews... Hope that tomorrow will be better.

I actually fell asleep during the second stage and missed like half of it 'cause my eyes couldn't continue on seeing a rotating green map all the time...they should have just let Red-Bull TV do the full coverage honestly, bring some Mike Chen, some special guests and walla it will improve dramaticly. One thing on the bright side of the live coverage, John didn't call Meeke 'The man from Dungannon'....

[the sniper]

Just read through all the moaning in the Monte thread but I honestly believe there was a lot of promise shown in what we saw tonight, I really enjoyed it. Even with the problems they still managed to get the Ogier moment out and various other onboards, the quality of which seemed to get more consistent later on in the broadcast of SS1. Breen's onboard in particular held up very well. SS2 was a bit more unfortunate but I still preferred that to just Rally Radio. Getting all the live comments when they arrived back at service (shown almost Ted Kravitz F1 notebook style) was great too. Being able to see Ogier's moment and Tommi's interview were the highlights of the experience! :D

I always felt Jon Desborough would be better in a presenter style role, with him really not being suited to commentary, but I think the role he played here tonight really worked and suited his style. Hopefully everybody stays in the roles they undertook tonight as I think everyone played their part well, particularly the main female present who seemed confident in the role and will only get better.

[er88]

Just read through all the moaning in the Monte thread but I honestly believe there was a lot of promise shown in what we saw tonight, I really enjoyed it.

I agree and disagree with you in parts mate.

Pros; I agree that there is definitely a lot of potential there, and was very pleased with the new female presenter and Jon in the studio. The commentary was actually pretty good too and Paul King was better than when doing the highlight shows. The onboards steadily improved but only for certain cars. Still a bit too much talking over the on-board footage but that's just to be expected by now. The Julian porter 'walk through' with the drivers at the end was great, and hearing Tanak and his engineer speaking was for me the best part of the night! I liked the live interviews with the drivers and team bosses.

Cons;
:Having Molly down at the start line didn't work due to them dwelling on the start too long and her "I'm not sure whether he's on softs or super softs" rhetoric (I like her and she will be an asset for the All Live team, but tonight wasn't great). It could be a nice feature to have a presenter down at the start of the first stage of each rally/day, but go split screen so we don't miss out on the action in the stage and don't do it on most stages.
:The god awful background music that kept playing was an annoyance, and the second stage was a shambles looking at that rotating map with no live feed whatsoever - but hopefully that was just a first day glitch.
:They really, really need to stop with the pre recorded interviews of drivers once the stage is live though. I mean fucking hell, if you're going to show interviews show them before the stage starts, or in a tiny screen in the corner so we can keep watching the live stage. As someone on here posted, they don't show clips of footballers giving interviews when a match has started.
:The quality of onboards can and does need to increase. I know this is rallying and you can be up a mountain or in forest, but when you charge for content it has to be the best it can be, and tonight it wasn't.
:Also disappointed with the lack of stage end interviews, especially on the first stage.
:And most of all, we missed most of the drama! We missed Neuville's, Tanak's, Breen's, Latvala's and Meeke's offs and didn't see replays.



I think having a helicopter up will help the production a lot and there's some very small changes that can be made which will dramatically improve the coverage. What I care about most is watching the guys in the stage when live, and seeing as much of them as possible whether through onboards or with the helicopter too. Keep it simple in that regard and build on the good points, and we could have a great product here. Tomorrow will be a better indicator I'm sure.

* Also I totally understand all the moaning earlier, I myself did a lot of it. But when you're waiting in anticipation for the start of the season and have it in your head you'll be able to see it 'ALL Live', it got incredibly frustrating. Especially as the first stage was full of huge drama. Some people also paid a lot of money for it, so would be doubly annoyed. Particularly in the heat of the moment

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[seb_sh]

Let's see what today brings, i hope at least technically that the coverage improves. I think the problem with the format is they (the director? producer?) have not switched mentally from a "recorded summary" to "broadcasting a live sporting event". Also about the interviews, to me that smells of someone in a meeting saying "we need to show the drivers talking in order to make them well known to the fans" and this is what they came up with. We keep saying it but they really need to change their editing, especially now that they have those service area scenes.

Some thoughts:
- The new presenter lady is very good at her job, she was almost flawless, I didn't cringe at all.
- Desborough is actually not bad in a "pundit" role where he can provide color and context commentary.
- Provided they will be better technically, they need more commentators (get Mike Chen) and especially they need some former rally drivers/co-drivers
- I liked seeing stuff from the service area between stages and interviews with teams saying how the stage went.
- They need better on screen graphics - this is a big one - stuff like constant rolling intervals and splits, a graphic showing tyre choice - stuff like that

[Myrvold]

I keep comparing this to IRC Monte 2011, and it falls short of thatl Also, I cannot find any way to look at the stage "Re-Live". Will that "Re-Live" just be for the normal broadcasted ones?

[tc10a]

I keep comparing this to IRC Monte 2011, and it falls short of thatl Also, I cannot find any way to look at the stage "Re-Live". Will that "Re-Live" just be for the normal broadcasted ones?

You can watch any part re live, just click on the selected part in the broadcast schedule below the live-stream.

[dupanton]

Disappointed about yesterdays broadcast, I hope it was due to technical problems.
Today started good though, interesting live from servicepark with the interviews etc.

[Myrvold]

You can watch any part re live, just click on the selected part in the broadcast schedule below the live-stream.

I tried, didn't work. Probably due to me having deactivated some java stuff. Oh well.

[quick]

Yesterday wrc smart tv app worked fine but today worked 10 minuts and now shows text, upgrade now to watch all stages live. Strange, other options working

[Simmi]

Thankfully they've got the camera/audio set up at the end of SS3 now. Was having to mute the pictures and listen to WRC Radio to hear the interviews. Definitely some tech issues in the mix. Think I saw one heli shot for a couple of seconds.

[seb_sh]

Yesterday wrc smart tv app worked fine but today worked 10 minuts and now shows text, upgrade now to watch all stages live. Strange, other options working

I had this problem yesterday and switched to PC that works fine, so does the Android app for me.

[satukata]

Do you know how to send feedback to alllivetv? I hope to see and hear wrc2 cars too!!

[ESTR]

Haha they're working hard. If they don't get better to sweden I will not pay at all because is not worth it at the moment. Too much talking about nothing. Too many long interviews (boring), shows some drivers and obviously just Ogier onboard for 20 minutes.

I enjoy more listening at the radio, from becs and colin than these jokers.

And where is the times. Oh they have new time tehnology provided which haven't worked quie well...

[Myrvold]

I would rather have them show lots of WRC2 cars etc. than all these rather pointless interviews.

Also, with supportclasses being sent, that will be a tiny tiny help to get sponsors for those guys, which in turn will give a tiny boost for those drivers and classes. More cars means more fun, which in turn brings a bit more media coverage, and then we have the ball rolling.

That would be much better than the stuff they have now.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Why so little heli shots and no stage-side cameras or drones ?

[RS]

Can someone tell us exactly what the 'live' coverage so far is?

From what has been written here it is not traditional live coverage (ie. as WRC powerstage or as IRC/Eurosport Monte was in the past)

[Rallyper]

The ambition is there, but where are the technicians??

[ESTR]

We all understand that is veryy hard to produce. But hey please fire these commentators. They don't have a clue what rally is. There are more people that have passion for the sport and are in bussiness far more than these jokers who doen't have a clue what's going on... It so boring that will be better if they have nothing shown at all. Like I said previously I enjoyed live radio more but they ruined that too.

[AL14]

I wasn't expecting all stages to be covered as the previous ones like power stage.
During night is awful. Interviews during action are an insult to the sport and to people who paid for that.
However, I watched SS4 this morning and it wasn't that bad. It would have been good with timing working.
Anyway it could be worth the price with a split-table fixed in the HUD, better position of cameras inside the car (I'm going to give up on this), and if it's possible HD quality videos from onboard, but I don't know how it could be feasable in the middle of the mountains.

[seb_sh]

huh i got logged out of wrc+ and when i try to login i get "An unknown error has occurred." tried 2 different browsers

Edit: it's back now

[Oliverk]

Rip wrc+

[AnttiL]

Same here. Not working.

EDIT: Now working.

[RM98]

Log out and log in again and it should work!

[RS]

I wasn't expecting all stages to be covered as the previous ones like power stage.


When people are paying for it, why not?

[Watson]

When people are paying for it, why not?
They have to pay the production whether it works properly from the start or not.

When we started first in our jobs we were nowhere near 100% productive but we still got our salaries and faith from our bosses that we'll get there. ;)

[RS]

They have to pay the production whether it works properly from the start or not.

When we started first in our jobs we were nowhere near 100% productive but we still got our salaries and faith from our bosses that we'll get there. ;)

Is it different production team then to those who have done the WRC powerstages and other WRC live stuff previously?

Anyhow I was talking about the type of live coverage rather than the niggles, but hopefully both will get better with time and if I one day buy a Smart TV I may subscribe annually.

[AL14]

When people are paying for it, why not?

To cover all the stages like previous power stages you would pay much more than that. Especially long stages would be a huge effort of resources to deliver something like that.
Anyway I agree that the product could and should be better than it is now.

[seb_sh]

The helicopter + picture in picture in car view is a good idea, but not quite in sync

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Pure sound HAS to be made an option on the live stream. True fans dont need comms.

[KiwiWRCfan]

Pure sound HAS to be made an option on the live stream. True fans dont need comms.
try experimenting with the volume control in bottom corner of All Live it seems to reduce commentary volume both leave pure sound. When watching video stream it works like a normal volume control, when watching video on PC I found a medium setting where i could hear car sounds but commentary was almost muted

[ESTR]

Big improvement would be if they could show onboards of everyone not just Ogier all the time. Like in live stages previous years. Bring down these map showing it have no point at all. And shut down commentary crew. And times... At least show it on live timing section.

[tomhlord]

Same thing here for me now. I already have regular WRC+ until later this year, but wanted to 'upgrade' to ALL LIVE.

Instead, when you select the 'upgrade' option, it simply charges you the full amount for a years WRC+ ALL LIVE.

Thus, I have effectively paid for several months WRC+ that I can never use again and a brand new, fresh, ALL LIVE subscription starting with todays date at full price. Not an upgrade to my exisiting subscription.

I wish WRC+ ALL LIVE the very best of luck, but the sign-up and upgrade option is disingenuous at best, a rip-off.

It didn't even give me a 'confirm' option, or a way of updating any details/selecting payment method. It just went right ahead with a purchase.

I've asked for a refund to return to my regular WRC+ and expect a response.

A quick update on this.

My WRC+ ALL LIVE has been cancelled by the promoter.

I have not received a single response to my query. No email, or confirmation.

I have not received back the 6 months of outstanding WRC+

I have not received any form of a refund.

Summary - I have paid for both WRC+ Basic and WRC+ALL LIVE, yet I have zero access to anything.

Shambolic!

[SubaruNorway]

Someone mentioned doing live video from the drones here. I have done some filming with a drone and i wouldn't be the pilot flying a drone live! It's a bit too sketchy for that, at least flying close and you're not able to follow for that many corners even though i think they get the Inspire 2 up to 100kph now. Monte Carlo is probably the worst rally for signal so it can only get better.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Didnt they say you could watch the stages again whenever you like with a 'catch-up service' ? This isnt happening.

Click on a stage from earlier and you just get the live stream, or now it says back in 11 hours...

[SubaruNorway]

Press the boxes in the timeline.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Press the boxes in the timeline.

Thats what I am doing and I just get the live or time of the next live stream...

[er88]

Thats what I am doing and I just get the live or time of the next live stream...Works for me.

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[salamaja]

Log out and log in again and it should work!

This. Had "upgrade your subscription" on AndroidTV app and couldn't figure it out in the beginning. At the same time it worked fine on phone and laptop.
But in general i think All Live can get only better from here.

[Allez Andruet]

Latvala's onboard from SS1 is cut to ****. As a paying customer I'd like to know why?

[PLuto]

Like usually, most of onboards with action is missing...

[KKS]

try experimenting with the volume control in bottom corner of All Live it seems to reduce commentary volume both leave pure sound. When watching video stream it works like a normal volume control, when watching video on PC I found a medium setting where i could hear car sounds but commentary was almost muted
Where did you find that commentary volume control? I have only one master volume control that mute off all sound.
And source ts file has only one audio stream

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just watched a couple of tv highlights shows and they still have real appeal.

The live streams just arent that great.

[Eli]

Just watched a couple of tv highlights shows and they still have real appeal.

The live streams just arent that great.

They should have let Redbull TV do all the hard work for them, would have worked way better as we saw last year...shame they haven't done it.

[PLuto]

After Monte I must say that I am quite disappointed with live coverage. For me they are making still the same mistakes like in the last years. As a comparison I am still taking 7 years old live from IRC Monte by Eurosport, you can remember here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2985&v=6gm2tVfJZ9s.

And why I dont like so much actual coverage of WRC? Talks in studio or at the start line or visits in the service are nice additional bonus. But usually I dont watch/listen it so much, I am not interested in it. But, when stage is going, I want to focus on the stage and watch what is happening. You can see on Eurosport footage, when first cars starts, they are always following the stage. Always you see the action, one or two onboards, static cameras. When there is cut to another crew, you immediatelly see in graphics who is it and usually also with actual time. No stupid pre-recorded interviews with drivers about nothing, no long graphics of pictures of cars, no long watching rotating map of the stage. Commentators knows what is happening and they are talking about what is really happening on stage. You can see lot of spins there, overtaking cars etc. What we have seen on Monte? They were lucky that Ogier, who they were following all the time, did two spuns in live coverage. But there were much more action...

Like I told, I think there is big potential with Red Bull and live coverage. But I am not sure if their philosophy is the best one. I must say that this philosophy doesnt suit me as I prefer to know what is really happening on the stage. Maybe it should be good for them to hire one person, who will not be commenting, but only watching the stage and news and giving this informations to commentators (and director) in time?

[salamaja]

WRC app on Android is many times more stable than browser it seems.
Not a single cutout this morning while browser(chrome,ff) having multiple issues.

[seb_sh]

WRC app on Android is many times more stable than browser it seems.
Not a single cutout this morning while browser(chrome,ff) having multiple issues.

same for me

[bassist]

Quite enjoying the coverage from WRC+live, but the fall out of connection is really frustrating!

[T16]

As long as they improve the connection, and how to deal with the down time when it does go down, they have a great product on their hands.
Quantum leap from last year.
Good job overall.

[Simmi]

Seen people complaining about how this has marginalised rally radio.

Yeah true but I literally watched live WRC content on my TV for the entire day yesterday. You genuinely can not make people happy in this life.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Much better this morning - far fewer dropouts, good picture quality, more heli shots and some stage-side cameras.

This is the standard we need and expected.

[AnttiL]

Much better this morning - far fewer dropouts, good picture quality, more heli shots and some stage-side cameras.

This is the standard we need and expected.

It's tricky in the mountains

[L555MAT]

Anyone else find the commentator Becky extremely annoying?

[ESTR]

she is the best.. Would you rather listening to those two jokers at the studio, and one woman at the start (by the way she doesn't have a clue about what tyres drivers have). And that fat guy who wnats to ask drivers and they are scared of him hahaha... No Becs is quite good, she knows what to say..

[BigWorm]

Becs is alright, she is very experienced at this point.

Think the all live is good now, getting better each day. I wouldn't mind seeing splits more often but that's just my preference.

[MartijnS]

Ok, like this its worth paying for!
Excellent footage from the last part of the stage!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Didnt they say you could watch the stages again whenever you like with a 'catch-up service' ? This isnt happening.



Sussed it out - it isnt working on my App but it does on the Website. :)

[racerx1979]

Julian (the fat guy) is amazing and knows his sh!t. The blonde broad, well...

Becs has been doing this for some time.

[seb_sh]

I was thinking about teh commentators as well:
- The new presenter from the studio is good imo, she's good as a moderator and hasn't said anything cringey or annoying. It's not her job to be an expert.
- Desborough is ok as a pundit in the studio but was extremely annoying when commentating a live stage. He keeps talking nonsense about driver ambitions and what they said two days ago but offers practically no useful information during the stage.
- Molly Petit (the one who didn't know what tyres everyone had on day 1) is just a regular run of the mill interviewer but i'd move her to end of stages where she just has to ask simple short questions.
- I'd bring Colin Clark from the stages to the media zone. He can ask more interesting questions and I think he could have some nice banter with drivers and co-drivers
- Julian Porter is good in the studio and commentating, i wouldn't send him to do the driver interviews in the media zone
- Becs is ok, makes a mistake now and then but catches herself, she's much better at commentating a live stage than the two guys that do the power stage. I'd pair her with someone who is knowledgeable about driving/technical stuff so she can concentrate on fluff and excitement and the other person can concentrate on analysing a bit what we're seeing.
- Paul King is good as a commentator

And they need an ex competitor expert at each rally, the red bull coverage was very good when they brought in Matthew Wilson or Luis Moya for example.

[Revman]

This WRC All Live is a dream. Just awesome!

[Christos Kolperiadis]

I have a problem. I can't watch the onboards with the tablet. Do you have any idea how can i solve it?

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[Myrvold]

I was thinking about teh commentators as well:
- The new presenter from the studio is good imo, she's good as a moderator and hasn't said anything cringey or annoying. It's not her job to be an expert.


Except praising Bouffier for very good times with a WRC2 car, I agree :)

[Rally Power]

This WRC All Live is a dream. Just awesome!.
Amen! Tbh I got cold feet about the prospect of having a ‘Becs and Clark TV Show’ (they can be great, but their overexcited tone somehow tires me) and this Kiri girl was a fantastic surprise. She’s a natural in front of the camera and even Desborough sounds better at her side; ok, she may lack rally info, but she’ll learn it quickly. It’s also nice to have Molly in the service area, although she can improve a bit. Besides the tech failures, I just regret Becs and the other commentators talking too much during the stages; they really should let us hear codrivers notes (no matter if they’re in English or not) a bit more. After Sweden I’ll be more than happy to pay for the service (btw, it can be shared by 2 or 3 users?).


And they need an ex competitor expert at each rally, the red bull coverage was very good when they brought in Matthew Wilson or Luis Moya for example.

That’d be really great.

[dimviii]

(btw, it can be shared by 2 or 3 users?).
.

at a Greek forum i read that its possible,2 persons with different ip manage to watch it.

[Andre Oliveira]

Confirm 2 users. Allready on FAQ of WRC+

[KKS]

And they need an ex competitor expert at each rally, the red bull coverage was very good when they brought in Matthew Wilson
Yeah, Matt can told a lot about his 5yrs plan :D

Matt Wilson it's a same joke as expert as Desborough a commentator

[Barreis]

today watched stage 13 on wrc+ and it was evans's onboard. porter and that girl didn't stop with their talk in the best part of it. maybe they don't know when to stop it...

[SubaruNorway]

today watched stage 13 on wrc+ and it was evans's onboard. porter and that girl didn't stop with their talk in the best part of it. maybe they don't know when to stop it...

I thought they were pretty good with that today.
There is going to be more than 4 hours of onboard with every driver on WRC+ uninterrupted so I'm sure you will be ok ;)

[AL14]

I've criticized the live on thursday night but I have to say that friday and saturday have been nice to watch.
Anyway I still think that some very easy and simple changes/additions could make the product much more worth it.

[Bartek]

Anybody is watching live coverage with Samsung Smart TV? From yesterday I have info that I need to upgrade to watch all stages live....