Wrc+

[Timmy]

Really enjoyed listening to wrc+ this weekend. Stage end interviews were MILES better than they've been in a long-long time.
Ostberg + Becs are a great combo. Ostberg has the knowledge and a little bit of banter here and there with Becs made it a real pleasure to listen to.
Wish there was someone else in the booth with Julian commentating the power stage.
I don't know the name of the other guy but he seems to be a bit out if it for me.

[Sulland]

Reducing Heli and transmitting plane costs?

Today I think you can do comms coveage with a large drone or remotely controlled helicopters.
That will reduce cost a lot.

With new satcom providers cost of that will come down. Needed bandwith will maybe be a brakepad on spacex satcom in the beginning.
but a lot of new solutions that would be interested in being part of WRC could be utilized.

[KiwiWRCfan]

If we had 3 or 4 retirements among WRC cars then we would have seen 3 or 4 WRC2 cars make it into the Live TV stage coverage. Low attrition level is good thig but it has a negative consequence in reduced coverage of support fields

[AnttiL]

If we had 3 or 4 retirements among WRC cars then we would have seen 3 or 4 WRC2 cars make it into the Live TV stage coverage. Low attrition level is good thig but it has a negative consequence in reduced coverage of support fields

Also we had Bertelli, Tuohino and two Hyundai 2C cars. Katsuta and Loubet are doing full seasons. There were 13 WRC cars starting the event.

[mknight]

One thing is what is shown on allive. But usually you got a 2-3 min part with WRC2/3 in daily highlights and sometimes even own vid.

So far from Arctic there is exactly nothing about WRC2/3 in any of these and no vids.

[AnttiL]

One thing is what is shown on allive. But usually you got a 2-3 min part with WRC2/3 in daily highlights and sometimes even own vid.

So far from Arctic there is exactly nothing about WRC2/3 in any of these and no vids.

Again, it’s been shown in the YLE broadcasts so the footage exists.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Re Mads: yes his knowledge and info are great, but he never knows when to stop talking. Like with anyone this grates after a while.

At least King & Porter have pauses to let you hear the cars go by.

[Franky]

Re Mads: yes his knowledge and info are great, but he never knows when to stop talking. Like with anyone this grates after a while.

At least King & Porter have pauses to let you hear the cars go by.

I thought you only watch WRC without commentary

[AnttiL]

You can always open a second browser and listen to car sounds from youtube

[Mirek]

Mads is the best imho.
One reason for me is that he speaks English in a way that i can understand very easy.
For example Meeke for me is much more difficult.

Wait for Breen to do the commentary one day :D

[SubaruNorway]

I wish they had more camera's on the forest, like at the jump where several photographers went as gets a bit monotone watching the highlights these days when It's pretty much all the same footage as you saw on All Live, with arches and banners covering half of the corner like on the last stage.

I'm wondering if having no pace notes on wrc+ onboards is something the drivers chose since we have them on all live?

[rp]

Positively surprised that WRC+ offered a three-month extended WRC+ subscription free of charge without asking due to the last year´s Covid-19 situation and staying their client all the time. During this year I had only one-month subscription at a time.

[Kradovech]

Hey, thats right! Completely missed it!
I forgot to cancel the yearly subscription in the beginning of the year so I assumed it got autorenewed and I just went ahead with it. :)

[polomayu]

Hi, anyone knows if is possible to remove the map from the onboards, at least in the phone, thanks.

[bomber21]

Very happy to see all live is working again in Samsung TVs, at least for now!

[lmmjvss]

Do we know how many people pay for the WRC+? I saw almost 600k people watching the livestream of the shakedown on Facebook and I got really impressed with these numbers

[Eli]

Very happy to see all live is working again in Samsung TVs, at least for now!

Now just need to get the option for no commentary ;)

[Päss1928]

Anybody else not being able to subscribe to wrc+? Filling in the card details and clicking "start paid membership" does absolutely nothing. Stage starts in a few mins, lovely.

E: Clearing cache helped.

[EstWRC]

and everything crashed for me on laptop and also on TV app

[Tauri_J]

Lagging like crazy and rally hasnt even started

[Päss1928]

and everything crashed for me on laptop and also on TV app

Same, have to refresh the page every 30 seconds to see a bit, and repeat. Unusable pretty much. What a piece of ****

[Oliverk]

Not working for me also. Get to see 10 sec max

[Tauri_J]

Absolute garbage again...

[TanelP]

Same...

[AnttiL]

Not working. Different errors on web and mobile.

[EstWRC]

started to work now properly (had to refresh all the time for the last 30 minutes but not anymore) on laptop, but still nothing on TV App

[Oliverk]

i have refreshed 20 times. Seen mby 40 seconds alltogether. Same in phone.

[AnttiL]

I was able to watch from Fourmaux to Suninen with only two frozen bits, but now it started to mess up again. And I missed the top drivers anyway. Don't feel even like trying anymore, because the constant refreshing is so annoying.

[EstWRC]

well starts to work now properly on TV App as well for me but lets see then SS2 starts again

[Oliverk]

still fukked for me. Keeps crashing

[MartijnS]

No issues here.

[EstWRC]

like i predicted, whent he stage starts everything crashes again

[Päss1928]

Still fked for me too, can see max 30 seconds at a time and getting different loadtimeout errors when refreshing.

[EstWRC]

the same fakin trend the whole morning, when the stage ends and theres less people watching, it starts to work but when the stage starts all frozes again, loges me out and whatever

[Mirek]

It was ok till SS3 for me but now it keeps freezing every now and then.

[Katvala]

I had to refresh a few times on SS1 but it's been working since. See many others have issues though :/

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[Oliverk]

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God dam finns can't organize summer rally 2 years in a row, and host and program wrc +.

/s
/joke ended

[AnttiL]

AFAIK NEP Finland just produces the video, and it's down to the German WRC Promoter to take care of the servers which send the stream and host the website. And the latter part usually fails.

[Mirek]

AFAIK NEP Finland just produces the video, and it's down to the German WRC Promoter to take care of the servers which send the stream and host the website. And the latter part usually fails.

If it has anything to do with the German intenet network, it's miracle we get at least something :D

For me it worked well during SS4. Only few cuts in SS1 and SS3.

[Kradovech]

Only thing I have been able to watch live today is the break time slideshow and music...

[Sulland]

Just came in, to turn on all live. Am I correct in assuming that they do not have a expert commentator for this rally?

[Katvala]

Just came in, to turn on all live. Am I correct in assuming that they do not have a expert commentator for this rally?Correct. At least for today.

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[Päss1928]

Looks like there will be no fix during this rally. Getting the freezes already during the slideshow today. Pathetic.

[Oliverk]

Looks like there will be no fix during this rally. Getting the freezes already during the slideshow today. Pathetic.

Same shit

[EstWRC]

as i understood yesterday from EE forum one guy said the problem is with Estonia for some reason, that all works fine in sweden for example

[Eli]

I see they added the Japanese and German commentary options but took away (on the PC browser) the no commentary options, that's nice of them ��.

[Erki]

"Nice" to see that I'm not the only one with issues. Had to refresh it (mobile) like 4000 times yesterday, just unusable, really. And I was in Sweden yesterday, Finland today, and still nothing works. (maybe if I had SE or FIN mobile, i.e. local, not roaming, it would work?)

[EstWRC]

i sent an angry letter to them and now suddenly it works :D

[Katvala]

as i understood yesterday from EE forum one guy said the problem is with Estonia for some reason, that all works fine in sweden for exampleThere was also issues in Finland. It worked fine for me yesterday (Norway), but today I am having this issue. I can watch, but I have to refresh due to error or freezes quite often

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[cali]

Android TV only freezes, at least today mobile app is working and I'm casting it to my TV. I'm usually very calm and cool about WRC+ but now getting quite irritated

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[bomber21]

It is the first time it works flawlessly in Samsung Tizen TV. Usually it was not working at all and I was frustrated but no issues during this rally.

[er88]

I've been watching AllLive all rally so far on BT sport, instead of through WRC+, and it's worked faultlessly.
Shows the problem must be WRC+ servers or what? It's the same content

[EstWRC]

yeah the problem is with the app.

we have half the stages also from our TV channel and everything runs smoothly there. They sent an email to me that now everything should work but we will see on next stage

[EstWRC]

what the hell is really wrong with the service this time?

it worked brilliantly for me during the first 2 rallies this season

[cali]

I have to restart the app after few minutes and get this error. Really really frustratinghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210424/c26e2a8e82c5d925801bdcb2c5b7f043.jpg

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[Sulland]

I use a browser interface and cast the signal via my phone to,an Apple TV. Works like a charm.

[Mirek]

No issues at all for me today here (PC browser and Android phone) and the German commentary was ok too.

[Kradovech]

Last 3 stages have worked well enough with minor 5 second freezes. Before that it was the other way around this weekend - occasional 5 second live clips. So maybe they did do something. Havent had such problems for years now with wrc+.

[cali]

Last 3 stages have worked well enough with minor 5 second freezes. Before taht it was the other way around this weekend - accasional 5 second live clips. So maybe they did do something. Havent had such problems for years now with wrc+.Yeah this afternoon has been better and even my Android TV app started to work! What a nice rally!

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[Sulland]

No issues at all for me today here (PC browser and Android phone) and the German commentary was ok too.

Who is/are talking on the German channel?

[Mirek]

Who is/are talking on the German channel?

No idea what is his name. Katvala recommended to switch to German and for me it was a good change. My German is much worse than English therefore it's also sort of language lesson for me :D

[AnttiL]

Stream freezes every 5 minutes, but refresh fixes it.

[EstWRC]

working fine today for me

[AnttiL]

Seems to work better on my phone.

[Franky]

No idea what is his name. Katvala recommended to switch to German and for me it was a good change. My German is much worse than English therefore it's also sort of language lesson for me :D

Every other language option seemed to be better than English. Even the Spanish seemed to talk less...

[cali]

And the hiccups returned today. Absolutely ruined this rally for me.

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[SubaruNorway]

Anyone else having issues with WRC+ and chromecast through chrome?

[Myrvold]

Anyone else having issues with WRC+ and chromecast through chrome?

You mean... it being black?

[KiwiWRCfan]

Anyone else having issues with WRC+ and chromecast through chrome?

I chromecast from Android phone to large screen TV without problems from SS1 to SS7.
SS8 I just watched on laptop.

[SubaruNorway]

You mean... it being black?

Yeah just black with WRC in text, normally it's ok after a restart. Works on the phone but easier to navigate on the laptop of course

[EstWRC]

Kris Meeke will be co-commentating this week. awesome

[er88]

Kris Meeke will be co-commentating this week. awesomeThey should regularly get drivers/ ex drivers involved where possible.

Paul King and Becs Williams yapping non-stop nonsense to each other does my head in

[AnttiL]

Kris Meeke will be co-commentating this week. awesome

Sardegna has not been a good event for Meeke. At least the stages where he crashed in 2017 and 2015 are not used this year :)


They should regularly get drivers/ ex drivers involved where possible.


Yeah, this is when WRC+ is at its best.

[the sniper]

Really nice having Meeke on commentary, better than I imagined he'd be.

[dupanton]

Not a single image of Huttunen whole day I think... Doing a great job but 0 coverage. They are talking more about WRC3 than about Huttunen.
WRC3 would deserve some coverage as well. Great battle!

[mknight]

Huttunen has terrible starting position today, should start 2nd out of WRC2s tomorrow and get TV time, but I agree that commentators should talk about him.



Really nice having Meeke on commentary, better than I imagined he'd be.

It's a bit so-so from me.

When he is commenting what is happening it's very good, but he also talks a lot about himself. We already heard about just about everything that happened in his career. So Østberg is better for me.

[dupanton]

Huttunen has terrible starting position today, should start 2nd out of WRC2s tomorrow and get TV time, but I agree that commentators should talk about him.

In stead of talking in the servicepark, they should stay at stage end and talk to WRC3 drivers as well. At least like twice a day.

[Sulland]

Was the fine given for the swearing just after the finish line, or for the post PS interview, if there was one?

A lot is said btw drivers and co-drivers just after the finish line.
Some things regarding the stage just done, some on tactics for the next ss, or the next time a SS will be drive, on tyre chioice amd so on.

More and more drivers have started to wait with this talk, until after the cameras are turned off, not to give competitors valuable info.

Every driver/co-driver will from time to time need to ventilate their feelings after a SS, without being penalized for it.
So if the reaction Mads had right after the finish line, and not the official inteview at stage end, then I feel it is wrong. I mean that "Full of adrenaline reactions" can not be used by stewards to give a reaction, as breach of the "law".
Some will say that the coverage right after stage end goes to far into the inner life of the two people in the car.

How do you feel?

[mknight]

It was both. Swearing in Norwegian right after stage end. Then swearing and direct vulgar complaining about tires in the interview at stopline which was quite some distance from the finish and after taking on face mask:

https://youtu.be/yezhpTL1sWU

[MentalParadox]

It was both. Swearing in Norwegian right after stage end. Then swearing and direct vulgar complaining about tires in the interview at stopline which was quite some distance from the finish and after taking on face mask:

https://youtu.be/yezhpTL1sWU

Which population group was discriminated by these comments? Were the tires offended? Perhaps the manufacturer was...? Because in that case, what they are doing is essentially censoring criticism of a corporation, which is worrying to say the least. Unless you're in favor of massive corporations regulating speech.

[cali]

Which population group was discriminated by these comments? Were the tires offended? Perhaps the manufacturer was...? Because in that case, what they are doing is essentially censoring criticism of a corporation, which is worrying to say the least. Unless you're in favor of massive corporations regulating speech.So only when you discriminate a certain population a fine is appropriate? Get a grip

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[Eli]

Came back to watching the rally through Firefox on my PC and I noticed they took the 'No Commentary' option, anybody here has that option?

[seb_sh]

Came back to watching the rally through Firefox on my PC and I noticed they took the 'No Commentary' option, anybody here has that option?

Nope, i noticed it was gone since Sardinia at least.

For a couple stages i switched to japanese because i couldn't stand the nonsense. Bringing the likes of Kris and others really shows how lacking some of the commentator pairings are... They should never put any two of PK, JD and BW together.

[MentalParadox]

So only when you discriminate a certain population a fine is appropriate? Get a grip
You're right, NO ONE should ever be fined for speech.
But more power to you for standing up for the precious feelings of massive corporations. Stunning and brave.

[cali]

You're right, NO ONE should ever be fined for speech.
But more power to you for standing up for the precious feelings of massive corporations. Stunning and brave.What are on about? Try less drugs when posting

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[seb_sh]

On a positive note the shots in Kenya are epic!

[mousti]

On a positive note the shots in Kenya are epic!Was curious for this rally. But suddenly my WRC+ subscription is gone.. Can't see anything anymore...

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[Portimao]

Nope, i noticed it was gone since Sardinia at least.

For a couple stages i switched to japanese because i couldn't stand the nonsense. Bringing the likes of Kris and others really shows how lacking some of the commentator pairings are... They should never put any two of PK, JD and BW together.

Julian Porter is the only competitive commentator in the WRC crew. The rest are just talking heads. They say when they see. Becs is in motorsports for like 20, 30 years? and she has no idea about technical basics. Also questions at the end of the stages are most of the time cringe and stupid AF.

[AnttiL]

Likely difficult to get people in Kenya, it makes a long quarantine for Brits.
There’s no Molly, no Seb Marshall or Östberg or Meeke…

[seb_sh]

Julian Porter is the only competitive commentator in the WRC crew. The rest are just talking heads. They say when they see. Becs is in motorsports for like 20, 30 years? and she has no idea about technical basics. Also questions at the end of the stages are most of the time cringe and stupid AF.

Indeed, I like Julian a lot. Meeke, Östberg, Marshall were priceless additions imo. It's ok to have a talking head as you say to do the play by play commentary and ask questions on behalf of the audience to the expert. But when you put two of them together it's a disaster.

Becs is not a bad commentator but she's got to be paired with someone like Meeke or Porter. I thought she worked well with Meeke actually. PK is a good presenter/voiceover but is lost in a live commentary situation. JD i think is forcing a certain style too much and lacks actual substance, it's like he's trying to hype up for TV but it comes off as fake, at least for me.

And yeah the stage end reporters need to think a bit, sometimes they don't even ask a question...

[seb_sh]

Just had a thought after I posted, you could put someone who has no clue about rally and barely even speak english just to ask "How was the stage for you" every time and then say thank you after the driver finishes and it would be better than some.

[Franky]

Stage end reporting is the most difficult, in my opinion. If you've got someone feeding you information what has happened, then you've got a chance to come up with a sensible question. But sometimes it feels like the most banal question (How was the stage) is the best one as you are giving the driver freedom to reply whatever is on their mind at the end of the stage.

Regarding commenting, feels like they need a complete shakeup to their roster of regular commentators.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

The non-stop talking is still my big issue.

What's the point in having the audio feed from the car (co-driver reading the pace-notes) when Becs and Co. just talk over them 99% of the time ?

They should only comment when something special happens to the car/crew on screen or some news comes in. Fans know the rally situation and can see info like times and splits on the screen.

[AnttiL]

What's the point in having the audio feed from the car (co-driver reading the pace-notes) when Becs and Co. just talk over them 99% of the time ?


Most people can focus on both at the same time, and you can always watch the onboards later with no one talking over.

As I've mentioned, All Live can be used also as a "Radio" where you can just listen what's happening without seeing.

[mknight]

Just had a thought after I posted, you could put someone who has no clue about rally and barely even speak english just to ask "How was the stage for you" every time and then say thank you after the driver finishes and it would be better than some.

9/10 times when stage end reporters try with an advanced question they get "I don't understand/can't hear you". Sometimes you even wonder if drivers do it on purpose to avoid the question.

So "How was the stage?" or "What happened?' might even be best. The only interesting thing could be in asking a good follow-up question.

[mknight]

How about adding an own "intercom interview plug" near the door.
Drivers won't have to struggle with the helmet/HANS and won't have issues hearing questions. You could even get answers from codrivers.

Only "issue" is that they won't be able to put on sponsor caps.

[Franky]

Most people can focus on both at the same time, and you can always watch the onboards later with no one talking over.

As I've mentioned, All Live can be used also as a "Radio" where you can just listen what's happening without seeing.

It feels like they sometimes get lost in their own little world and literally tell you what everyone is seeing. As a viewer you'd want more than you can see and know yourself.

[mknight]

Well Porter is actually really good at spotting damage/issues that are hard to see.

Unlike those two that couldn't see Østbergs puncture on the wheel closest to camera on a slow speed corner in Sardinia.

[Franky]

Well Porter is actually really good at spotting damage/issues that are hard to see.

Unlike those two that couldn't see Østbergs puncture on the wheel closest to camera on a slow speed corner in Sardinia.

He's the only one worth keeping for stage commentary, imo.

[cali]

He's the only one worth keeping for stage commentary, imo.Agreed! Is Andrew Coley available? He has been brilliant in rallycross and as guest in AllLive he was way above the usual cast.

Mads Ostberg ofc should be also in the box, unless he is driving...

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[AndyRAC]

He used to be the co-commentator on the live IRC events; very good, enthusiastic, and knowledgeable.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Most people can focus on both at the same time, and you can always watch the onboards later with no one talking over.

As I've mentioned, All Live can be used also as a "Radio" where you can just listen what's happening without seeing.

Listening to two/three voices at once for hours on end is really wearing. I end up watching with no aound.

[er88]

He used to be the co-commentator on the live IRC events; very good, enthusiastic, and knowledgeable.I think he did Corsica 2019 daily highlights - proper old skool reporting which was brilliant. None of the faux live pish that made me stop watching the highlights

[the sniper]

I just can't fathom out why they wouldn't have an 'expert' in the booth on every event? It's hardly like there's a shortage of out of work former drivers and co-drivers! Are the promoter really too cheap to fund an additional person?

[SubaruNorway]

I wish there were more cameras in the stages on some proper locations, highlights these days are mostly just copy paste from all live

[rallyfiend]

He used to be the co-commentator on the live IRC events; very good, enthusiastic, and knowledgeable.

He's been dumped by WRC Promoter for World RX, so I can't see him making an appearance in WRC again....

[AndyRAC]

He's been dumped by WRC Promoter for World RX, so I can't see him making an appearance in WRC again....

Their loss - and proves what they know about commentary of the sport......

[lmmjvss]

Those interviews right after the stages are so useless. We are watching the stages... we basically KNOW what they are going to ask and what the drivers are going to answer.
That Ott's interview was the first time I couldnt predict the answer haha

[Rally Hokkaido]

Those interviews right after the stages are so useless. We are watching the stages... we basically KNOW what they are going to ask and what the drivers are going to answer.
That Ott's interview was the first time I couldn't predict the answer haha
Your last sentence is the reason why I don't mind them. No minders around or much time to think often results in drivers telling us what they shouldn't! Also, their comments often give us more detailed info about a stage's condition or an incident in it.

[seb_sh]

Those interviews right after the stages are so useless. We are watching the stages... we basically KNOW what they are going to ask and what the drivers are going to answer.
That Ott's interview was the first time I couldnt predict the answer haha

I think they are fine as is, it was really annoying before they did picture in picture, half of the broadcast was opening and closing doors :D

And to complain a bit: i'm disappointed by the weak WRC2 coverage in rally Estonia, plenty of big names and a close fight but all i have is times on ewrc...

[er88]

Some awful picture break up

[AnttiL]

Some awful picture break up

Because of storm clouds

[AnttiL]

Is this the first All Live stage ever where Becs is missing?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good to see they finally had stage-side cameras for some super fast sections and jumps. When the events are just loops of the same stages they should have more of these cameras showing the real speed of the cars.

[AnttiL]

Good to see they finally had stage-side cameras for some super fast sections and jumps. When the events are just loops of the same stages they should have more of these cameras showing the real speed of the cars.

All Live has had occasional stageside cameras from Monte 2019 onwards. It's when their technology was updated that the stageside cameras can also stream footage directly (not just on TV stages)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

All Live has had occasional stageside cameras from Monte 2019 onwards. It's when their technology was updated that the stageside cameras can also stream footage directly (not just on TV stages)

So in-car cameras could live stream from 2017 but stage-side ones couldnt ?

[AnttiL]

So in-car cameras could live stream from 2017 but stage-side ones couldnt ?

Yes. Different technology.

[RS]

And to complain a bit: i'm disappointed by the weak WRC2 coverage in rally Estonia, plenty of big names and a close fight but all i have is times on ewrc...

There's a couple of crappy 2 minute videos on WRCs Youtube channel now for WRC2+3. It will be interesting to see what they do when they have ERC under their wing.. it wouldn't make a lot of sense if you can get better coverage for running a 'Rally2' car in ERC than WRC2/3 so they will either have to downgrade ERC coverage or uograde WRC2/3 coverage.

[seb_sh]

There's a couple of crappy 2 minute videos on WRCs Youtube channel now for WRC2+3. It will be interesting to see what they do when they have ERC under their wing.. it wouldn't make a lot of sense if you can get better coverage for running a 'Rally2' car in ERC than WRC2/3 so they will either have to downgrade ERC coverage or uograde WRC2/3 coverage.

They started to show more in all live after i posted :P

[lmmjvss]

those 30min dialy highlights on redbull TV are free to watch...
Why these highlights are not being posted on youtube then? I mean, it would reach WAY more people - especially with the recomendation algorithm thing. Since its "free" anyway. They could even make some $ on youtube, I think.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Some awful picture break up

Does anyone no the real reason for this? Becs gave BS explanations that changed more than the weather did; "rain clouds" "raining" "lightning" "tall trees" etc. On Sunday, commentators tried to ignore the problem because the weather was fine and there were lots of open field stages. A freeze frame actually caught Julian out once as initially he thought a car had stopped. Were they using a hang glider to bounce the signals back to the studio?

[Got Mail]

Anyone else get the 'Data Breach' message?

I had to log in again earlier this evening and got a 'your log-in details have been compromised in a data breach' type message.

It suggested an immediate password change...

[Got Mail]

Unable to log in this morning.

Anyone else got the same problem?

[TypeR]

black screen now..?

[wwbroe]

black screen now..?

Working fine over here

[rallyfiend]

Working perfectly for me

[Rallyper]

black screen now..?

Yes, it was black screen now and then in the beginning...

[M3 Jambo]

Ceremonial start not showing?

[Eli]

Ceremonial start not showing?

More important for them to show us the points leader board apparently.

[EstWRC]

dunno if its just me but cant see the drivers under live maps although i see them on the map

E: actually i can see only Ogier

[Got Mail]

dunno if its just me but cant see the drivers under live maps although i see them on the map

E: actually i can see only Ogier

Same.

[TypeR]

Been like that from the early morning..

[Sulland]

Why have they not spotted that they have 2 times SOL on the results board. Solberg and Solans.

wrc+: pls fix, maybe change solberg to OLI?

[seb_sh]

Why have they not spotted that they have 2 times SOL on the results board. Solberg and Solans.

wrc+: pls fix, maybe change solberg to OLI?

Kudos to Julian for noticing and calling it out, they changed Solans to SLN the next stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Lots of picture break-ups again today. Whats the cause in Spain ?

[AnttiL]

Lots of picture break-ups again today. Whats the cause in Spain ?

Clouds or even strong wind could disrupt the signal. Also the terrain is mountainous.

[AnttiL]

DEAR RALLY FAN

Next year you can enjoy more rally than ever before! From 2022 on, the FIA European Rally Championship (ERC) will also be included in your WRC+ subscription. Together with the additional WRC event in 2022 we are giving you more hours of all live rally, onboards and highlight videos to enjoy whenever and wherever you want. Stay tune for the all-new ERC website including the 2022 calendar, live timings and everything else you need to know about the new season coming up soon.

Of course, the existing benefits of a WRC+ subscription will remain, and you can continue to watch all stages of every rally live and on demand in Full HD and on all devices together with special features like live maps, onboard action and much more rally content waiting for you in our video library.

We hereby also inform you that we need to adjust our prices for the monthly and seasonal WRC+ passes. Taking effect from 13 January 2022, the price for all new monthly passes will be €10.99 and the price for new season passes will change to €99.99. This increase is due to rising production costs and in order to keep presenting rally content at the highest possible level. But of course, your existing pass will continue to run at the old prices until the end of your current billing period (monthly/season).

If you do not agree to the new prices, we will be sorry to see you go, but you can object by sending an email to our support within 14 days. Please note to use the email address with which you are registered at WRC+.
Hope to see you around for a new and exciting rally season.

New prices for All Live including ERC

[Fast Eddie WRC]

UK rally fans - good news from BTSport:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHy9ZUjXwAo8yXR?format=jpg&name=900x900

[linni]

New prices for All Live including ERC

This is pretty ridiculous as for F1 TV annual subscription I pay 65 euros.

[pantealex]

This is pretty ridiculous as for F1 TV annual subscription I pay 65 euros.

Really ?

F1 is way more expensive than WRC in every country I know...

[WRCStan]

Really ?

F1 is way more expensive than WRC in every country I know...

F1 direct from F1 with all the data feeds is very good value in those countries that don't have TV deals in place. €64.99 a year in Estonia, $44.99 in Africa, or ~€300 in the UK through NowTV - which is commercial TV and without the data. What's a VPN, €2-3 or so? At least WRC+ isn't recognising bullshit borders in the era of globalised arbitrage.

[wyler]

Sky rumored close to a deal for broadcasting wrc in Italy

[flykas]

Maybe someone knows where to get some promo codes for this year?

[linni]

Maybe someone knows where to get some promo codes for this year?

one of these used to be WRCxxxx (xxxx as for actual calendar year), but the gain was only 10 euros.

[bwallace]

i hope they put some promo code day before monte start.

[dimviii]

Seb Marshall
@sebmarshall
·

You’ll see a lot more of me this year in front of camera, as I’m thrilled to be joining the #WRC All Live team, providing expert analysis + reporting from stage ends.
I’ll still be popping up in the co-drivers seat on occasion, but the times they are a changing. Bring it on! 2/2

[er88]

Seb Marshall
@sebmarshall
·

You’ll see a lot more of me this year in front of camera, as I’m thrilled to be joining the #WRC All Live team, providing expert analysis + reporting from stage ends.
I’ll still be popping up in the co-drivers seat on occasion, but the times they are a changing. Bring it on! 2/2I'm still surprised Oliver Solberg didn't choose Seb as his Co driver going forwards. At least for a season or two, after how decent they did after that last minute Artic partnership.

[mknight]

I'm still surprised Oliver Solberg didn't choose Seb as his Co driver going forwards. At least for a season or two, after how decent they did after that last minute Artic partnership.

Men too, but it might be that Seb didn't want to drive fulltime.

[EstWRC]

The reason why he didnt choose Seb is because of his height.

Remember Järveojas complaints about the sitting position in new cars and he isnt a tall guy. Seb is quite tall.

[Co-driven]

The reason why he didnt choose Seb is because of his height.



You know this for a fact or just a wild guess?

[BigWorm]

Much better broadcast interface. A nice improvement

[seb_sh]

Much better broadcast interface. A nice improvement

Indeed!

[Franky]

It's an improvement and about time they matched it with the website but still with issues. Split times info is as tiny as it can get and the stage time counter on a bright orange (or sth) colour is not the easiest to follow.

[atsiotras79]

Did I see correct? In Aaron Johnston place in the Katsuta screen they have Sean Johnston face?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Dont suppose they brought back the pure sound audio feed did they ?

[Sulland]

Who commentates with Becks on SS8?

[Myrvold]

Dont suppose they brought back the pure sound audio feed did they ?

Nope.

[EstWRC]

i now rarely watch wrc+ coverage, cause since last year we have our local TV provider showing basically all the stages.

but i have really started to dislike Kiri, just constant yada-yada-yada-yada and talk of nothing, asks a question from guest a and then doesnt let the guest to finish the answer and interrupts all the time.

[AnttiL]

Who commentates with Becks on SS8?

Ben Constanduros

[Sulland]

Ben Constanduros

Ahh, Touringcar guy...
he was often mentioning suspension and less travel on the Rally1 cars. Maybe wait with that for sweden, where we will see if there are noticable for drivability and times.

They need former drivers, to pick up details in cars and drivers.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

i now rarely watch wrc+ coverage, cause since last year we have our local TV provider showing basically all the stages.


Same. I dont bother with WRC+ at all now.

I just miss the pure sound option. Becs & Co. seem to be talking a bit less now though, but they still grate after a full day.

[seb_sh]

Good decision to show the middle of this stage where the snow is instead of the end like usual.

[lmmjvss]

If wrc+'s 30 min daily highlights are free to watch on redbulltv... Why dont they upload it on YouTube where it would catch some extra casual viewers that might get interested in the sport? I mean, world rallycross was uploaded for free on redbulltv and yet 50% of the "fans" kept complaining on facebook that they wanted to watch but couldnt pay for the RX+ app. I mean, they dont even knen redbullTV existed haha

[seb_sh]

Thank all the gods past present and future from Ra to the god emperor of Warhammer 40000 that this Powerstage with an epic battle between the two Sebs features no Jon Desborough! Thank you!

[Portimao]

I would rather listen to Jon than Becs

[Sulland]

Mads, we need you back behind the mic!

[Steve Boyd]

Every time I see Jon Desborough, I think of Max Headroom
https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fthumbs.gfycat.com%2FPo lishedThoughtfulHuemul-max-1mb.gif&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fgfycat.com%2Fdiscover%2Fma x-headroom-gifs&tbnid=jrgDdYvdmKqfuM&vet=12ahUKEwjlipD-mcn1AhUG_BoKHX0ECAcQMygEegUIARD1AQ..i&docid=IkwT9qvIoZk66M&w=500&h=380&itg=1&q=max%20headroom%20gif%20with%20sound&client=firefox-b-d&ved=2ahUKEwjlipD-mcn1AhUG_BoKHX0ECAcQMygEegUIARD1AQ

[Fast Eddie WRC]

At Monte we were guests of the promoter of the FIA World Rally Championship who really opened the doors of WRC All Live for us.

Here's how it works !

https://www.rallyssimo.it/2022/01/26/ecco-come-funziona-wrc-all-live-siamo-stati-dietro-le-quinte-della-tv-del-mondiale-rally/

[the sniper]

The 'over the shoulder' onboard angle in Huttunen's Fiesta is almost comically bad!

[AnttiL]

Drones are a nice addition

[Sulland]

Pls give Mads a ring, we deserve it!
Some times it is painful to listen to them. So many hours they have done this job, and still most of the stage commentators, are clueless on what affects what on stages, drivingstyles and so on.

And on Ss16 they cut the bradcast after 7,5 cars, after Evans went off.
There was 30 min till next stage starts. Why stop there?
Even on Norwegian and Swedish championship events they are able to keep the end of stage interviews going on one stage until the next starts. Only voice, but that is fine!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Anyone else sick of Paul King.... he's nearly as annoying now as Jon Desborough.

[WRCStan]

Anybody is annoying when you spend the time we do listening/hearing them, it's same anywhere in life.

[RS]

Drones are a nice addition

Perhaps an unpopular opinion but i didn’t like them. At least not the way it was done. Looked like some weird sequence from a computer game.

[bearclaw]

As a WRC+ subscriber I was looking for some onboard footage for preparing visiting Rally Croatia in April but they changed their archive, or where can I find this onboard footage on WRC+ now? In the past, it was a nice feature for looking and choosing nice spectator points.

[AndyRAC]

Anyone else sick of Paul King.... he's nearly as annoying now as Jon Desborough.

I'm sure people have been saying this for the last 10-15 years - yet he still keeps his job. A 'relic' from the North One era, and he's not the only one.....

[AnttiL]

As a WRC+ subscriber I was looking for some onboard footage for preparing visiting Rally Croatia in April but they changed their archive, or where can I find this onboard footage on WRC+ now? In the past, it was a nice feature for looking and choosing nice spectator points.

Click "WRC+" on the top menu and then "Onboards". I just watched Croatia stages last night.

[ouvreur]

Anybody is annoying when you spend the time we do listening/hearing them, it's same anywhere in life.

I don't agree with that. There are commentators and analysts in other sports and topics who I could listen to (and indeed have done so, regularly) for ten hours a day with no problem at all, while some get on my nerves within seconds of hearing them start to speak. There's nobody in the first category for me in rallying, while plenty are in the second.

[Sulland]

The only one that spot something wrong on the cars during stages is Julian Porter. The rest of them have no clue. And that is a bit strange having dome this for so long. It is mostly bla bla and some splittimes, but no clue on driving styles, strong and not so strong sides of of the different drivers.

[Hartusvuori]

Perhaps an unpopular opinion but i didn’t like them. At least not the way it was done. Looked like some weird sequence from a computer game.

I share your opinion. To me that kind of fast moving drone footage is just restless and pointless, taking the attention away from the actual driving. In Umeå stage I was in a section where they had that drone and I was spectating more the drone than the cars. This could be though due to the fact the drone is new. I hope the drone won't hit any spectator while flying wild.

[DoN_cz]

Actually, I think it was during Saturday evening stage(s) there was a shot from drone crashing into something (a farm house?) and falling down to the ground.

You could see a bit later when Breen was driving in EV mode to the closest escape road that there was a WRCTV guy doing something (fixing the drone?) in the boot of his car (also totally unawere there's a rally car coming behind him - since it had no sound in EV) :)

[AnttiL]

I share your opinion. To me that kind of fast moving drone footage is just restless and pointless, taking the attention away from the actual driving. In Umeå stage I was in a section where they had that drone and I was spectating more the drone than the cars. This could be though due to the fact the drone is new. I hope the drone won't hit any spectator while flying wild.

I understand this point as well. WRC+ needs to balance between showing what is happening and being entertaining. For example many people would like to see helmet cam, but in my opinion it's something that looks wild even on slower driving but gives little information of what is actually happening. Maybe this drone is towards entertainment, but still a nice "closer helicopter view" when done properly. Also it looks a bit like video game chase cam, which could look attracting to video game people?

[ouvreur]

I'm glad they're trying something different. The same seat-obscured onboards / badly placed 'FX' cams / not-very-interesting stage-side locations had been wearing thin. The drone stuff has the potential to be really cool, especially when we get to more technical rallies, seeing the cars from a 'chase cam' position in twisty or bumpy sections will surely be more interesting than what we've got now.

In Sweden, we had both the sublime and the ridiculous. There was one tracking shot, next to the house towards the end of the powerstage (a fast right-hander over a small crest/jump) that was quite beautiful, it would be great to see more like that, a great example of what these cars can do.

Then we had the slightly tense moment where Tanak was approaching Breen's awkwardly-parked car on SS14, aaaaand... they switched to a view of the crew's faces right when they needed to be looking out of the windscreen. Totally nonsensical.

[DoN_cz]

... aaaaand... they switched to a view of the crew's faces right when they needed to be looking out of the windscreen. Totally nonsensical.
Heh, I've been talking about this already like 15 years ago (and actually did some timing in highlights, where this view was almost as used as the regular onboard view).
It's fine for 3 seconds, maybe on the start line or after crossing the finish line. But I don't understand why it is so overused, especially in important situations like you mention. Well, I've heard from a guy working for NEP that it's the producer's (dont know who he is?) decision...

[AndyRAC]

As I said yesterday regarding the Paul King commentary - they're still seemingly stuck in the North One era; the same camera shots, poor choice of stage side cameras, etc Considering how good Red Bull are at producing action sports, I do wonder how much influence they have in the WRC coverage.

[Lancia Stratos]

I'm sure people have been saying this for the last 10-15 years - yet he still keeps his job. A 'relic' from the North One era, and he's not the only one.....

Who else is there from North One era?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Did a TV channel in anyone's country (FTA or pay) show the ERC+ All-Live stream ?

[RS]

Posting here because more people watch the WRC All-Live than ERC, and maybe the guys from the promoter monitor this thread.. is it a common problem on the All-Live platform that the sound becomes unsynchronised from the pictures? It's really disorientating, makes it almost unwatchable for me!

[OHL]

Posting here because more people watch the WRC All-Live than ERC, and maybe the guys from the promoter monitor this thread.. is it a common problem on the All-Live platform that the sound becomes unsynchronised from the pictures? It's really disorientating, makes it almost unwatchable for me!

It happens to me almost every time I use it with a chromecast. I have to restart it during every stage at least once.
If just watching from the app or on browser it works fine usually.

[RS]

It happens to me almost every time I use it with a chromecast. I have to restart it during every stage at least once.
If just watching from the app or on browser it works fine usually.

Yep, Chromecast here.

[DoN_cz]

Yes, same problem when streaming from my phone to TV. Still no app in Android TV.

[SubaruNorway]

Same from Mac here sometimes, and i have to cast from my phone after the event or else it just starts from the first broadcast of the weekend no matter what stage i choose.

Still some lag on the onboard's for some reason that i told them about last year but was just told i had to check my 100mbit fiber internett...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I downloaded the new ERC App and the highlights videos on that buffer all the way through. I have no such problem with any other Apps, even with live streaming events.

[seb_sh]

the app is not great, I also get sound desync issues occasionally when streaming to chromecast. Sometimes it flat out dies and i have to reconnect. other times it's ok.

i have a gigabit fiber connection, most things have zero issues streaming 4k

[Sulland]

For this rally I have turned off the sound. I get too irritated listening to them rambeling on.
I look at the live film, and uses ewrc for times and comments.

They need a driver or codriver as an expert on each rally.
Ostberg have said he will not drive in WRC this year, only in Hungary, so hire him when he is free, and put in other drivers/co-drivers in for the rest!

We are paying for this!

[Eli]

For this rally I have turned off the sound. I get too irritated listening to them rambeling on.
I look at the live film, and uses ewrc for times and comments.

They need a driver or codriver as an expert on each rally.
Ostberg have said he will not drive in WRC this year, only in Hungary, so hire him when he is free, and put in other drivers/co-drivers in for the rest!

We are paying for this!

Couldn’t agree more, they used to have a no commentary option back in 2020, which they took away. Probably saw too many people using it.

[Eli]

So, signal currently down, anyone else experiencing this?

[AnttiL]

So, signal currently down, anyone else experiencing this?

same here

[Revman]

same here

Yes. No signal. Argh!

[Eli]

Come on they can’t be serious, woken up especially for this and now missing the whole stage. After that, I don’t want to hear them say: ‘apologies for us being a bunch of amateurs with no clue of how to run this thing.’

[haris274]

Again... "Signal Currently Down" ???? WTF?

[Eli]

Again... "Signal Currently Down" ???? WTF?

Too much rain for them. Bunch of amateurs.

[AndyRAC]

Not good enough; happens far too regularly....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Anyone who doesnt have a full WRC+ / ERC+ subscription may want to sign up for a month from this Friday 13 May. They will get to watch 4 events (two in each series) up to 12th June:
Rally Canarias ERC
Rally Portugal WRC
Rally Sardinia WRC
Rally Poland ERC

[Sulland]

Why are the two brits rambelling on about tyres. Not a singel comment on how cars are driven, or how the stage looks like.

Why no expert, they have more champs than Gronholm they could get in.

But why they dont ask Ostberg that did so well, is strange to me.

[Eli]

Why are the two brits rambelling on about tyres. Not a singel comment on how cars are driven, or how the stage looks like.

Why no expert, they have more champs than Gronholm they could get in.

But why they dont ask Ostberg that did so well, is strange to me.

He raised the bar too high for them that they looked bleak in comparison. Also I’m guessing they didn’t like the fact the viewers enjoyed him more.

[EstWRC]

the live maps went suddenly black for me second rally in a row, works and then just one moment doesnt show anything

wrote to them, the answer was they dont see the problem and do CTRL+5

i really do wonder who works there

[rallyfiend]

Why are the two brits rambelling on about tyres. Not a singel comment on how cars are driven, or how the stage looks like.

Why no expert, they have more champs than Gronholm they could get in.

But why they dont ask Ostberg that did so well, is strange to me.

If you believe the rumours, the fact his father is being sued by many in the service park - including the promoter - isn't helping his cause....

[SubaruNorway]

If you believe the rumours, the fact his father is being sued by many in the service park - including the promoter - isn't helping his cause....

From what i understand they were found not guilty in that case and Mads wasn't really involved in it, Morten and two others were.
Mads is commentating on Discovery+ this weekend.

[the sniper]

Why no expert, they have more champs than Gronholm they could get in.

It's ridiculous. Even Gronholm, who wouldn't consider himself the most fluent English speaker, brought a lot to the broadcast. There are so many experts that could join them and offer a worthwhile contribution.


Mads is commentating on Discovery+ this weekend.

What's he covering on Discovery+?

[WRCStan]

What's he covering on Discovery+?

Documentary on U-Boat development in the First World War.

[the sniper]

Documentary on U-Boat development in the First World War.

Serious or not, that's funny either way! :D

[Gordini]

They could invite Petter, he is more up to date than than finnish goofey.

[Myrvold]

What's he covering on Discovery+?

WRC, Norwegian broadcast.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Constant problems with the App on my android phone with the live stream buffering and the app crashing.

Having to watch the live stages on the BT Sport app which runs the coverage perfectly...

[Sulland]

Cool with Oliver in one of the stages yesterday. Drivers sees and hear things we do not. They add value to the WRC+ product!

[Augury]

I do wish the commentators would stop talking over the drivers at stage end just after the red boards.

[Eli]

I do wish the commentators would stop talking over the drivers at stage end just after the red boards.

I wish they would stop talking, period. Or at the very least bring us back the no commentary option, especially when all they have to add is:” the engine goes bebebe when it’s on the rev limiter”.

[Sulland]

I take the sound off, if it is the normal team talking.

[Eli]

I take the sound off, if it is the normal team talking.

But then you can't hear the pace notes & the car.

[KiwiWRCfan]

End of Saturday media zone is worth a watch. Good rapport between Molly, Julian and crews.

[Eli]

End of Saturday media zone is worth a watch. Good rapport between Molly, Julian and crews.

Was interesting to hear the interview with Paul.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

But then you can't hear the pace notes & the car.

But having the two commentators talking over the co-driver is soooooo annoying.

I also watch the with the sound off most of the time, unless something happens and for the stage-end interviews.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

End of Saturday media zone is worth a watch. Good rapport between Molly, Julian and crews.

I'm also liking Molly. Much better than Kiri.

[Eli]

I'm also liking Molly. Much better than Kiri.

She's a country mile better than Kiri, I hope it stays like this but I'm doubtful.

[Eli]

But having the two commentators talking over the co-driver is soooooo annoying.

I also watch the with the sound off most of the time, unless something happens and for the stage-end interviews.

Yes!! I was trying to listen to the conversation between Craig & Paul during the stage but only got the first part after they saw the red flag and Craig asked Paul what to do.

[the sniper]

Where is Kiri, btw?

Been funny hearing Neil Cole and Paul King doing stage end interviews.

Nice to hear Juha Kankkunen on commentary too.

[WRCStan]

Juha in that last stage, something like: "I couldn't be a co-driver, I don't understand pacenotes." Also brilliant, "yes, uh huh" when the drivers were talking.

[the sniper]

I also enjoyed his droll assessment of the Finnish language.

[seb_sh]

I think Molly and Kiri "share" due to other commitments.

I like Paul King better at the stage end than in the booth.

Juha Kankkunen is great.

[Paul Hudson]

Molly is much better than Kiri.

[Eli]

Molly is much better than Kiri.

Yes I’d prefer we only had her instead of Kiri, with all due respect.

[WRCStan]

If Kiri was reading this and thought fuck it, then Molly became the anchor, 100% the conversation becomes bitching about Molly before long.

Maybe some of yous need to take a rally off now and then.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

If Kiri was reading this and thought fuck it, then Molly became the anchor, 100% the conversation becomes bitching about Molly before long.

Maybe some of yous need to take a rally off now and then.

Total rubbish.

[Sulland]

Molly is really working on getting more personal experience in a rally car, even if she comes from racing. She has been a driver and a co driver, and is married to one of the best drivers in Norway.

Hopefully she will continue to drive, to become better at that, to become better as a rally journalist!

[the sniper]

The thing that amazes me is Molly's accent, I don't think any English person would readily recognise from her accent that she isn't entirely English. The more you listen and know she's Norwegian, you can hear it in places though. Apologies if I'm wrong, but isn't it a bit of a thing with Norwegian women in particular who speak English publicly that they try hard to shed the Norwegian accent out of it, because the Solberg style, somewhat 'hurdy-gurdy' heavily accented English (which I love! :D ) isn't considered cool?

(I know her dad is English, btw)

[WRCStan]

Total rubbish.

Hmmm.


Re Mads: yes his knowledge and info are great, but he never knows when to stop talking. Like with anyone this grates after a while.

At least King & Porter have pauses to let you hear the cars go by.


Listening to two/three voices at once for hours on end is really wearing. I end up watching with no aound.


Anyone else sick of Paul King.... he's nearly as annoying now as Jon Desborough.


I have noticed so far today the commentators have been a bit less talkative (well except Desborough). Hopefully they are getting the message that we dont need constant talking and want to hear the cars and pacenotes.


It does my head in having commentators talk non-stop over the car/co-driver audio.

SHUT UP, IT'S NOT RADIO ANYMORE. :(


Quite the opposite for me. Neverliked his stage ends... his accent was too grating for the poor audio. But I like his Kitchen Table.


They need more experts on comms and at stage ends. And to finally treat WRC as a serious sport and not a bit of fun like Becs & Co.


I now find it unbearable to watch with comms and especially the 'Live TV' stages with Desbrough or King chatting shit non-stop.


Another Mr Shouty, Desborough-style. :(

Eddie, please understand I'm trying to laugh with you here else it'll look like I'm attacking you. I'm not, I think you actually agree with my point and many, many others quotes could be examples. Spending the many hours AllLive offers listening to the same people is not natural and doesn't happen elsewhere. Take a break if it grates!

I only gathered these as I had an entertaining skim through this thread because I've nothing better to do. Initially forum is praising WRC+ with a couple of live stages. Then AllLive launches, then it's mostly moaning, some about the customer and technical service, but also moaning about human beings just for existing. Just about everybody who has appeared on AllLive has had a ribbing here. The "skiing man", the "Citroen woman", the "Brazilian social media star", regulars Jon, Julian, Paul, Ben, Becs, Abi, Kiri, Molly, Colin, Mads, Kris, Marcus... comical really. Yes everyone can have their opinion but it's not always everything has to be shared - and I know I'm not immune.

[Eli]

If anyone deserves a praise this weekend, it was Neil Cole, it was a pleasure having him back, also Imho Paul King does a better job as a stage end reporter than a commentator.

[the sniper]

I hadn't realised Neil Cole hadn't been involved in the WRC at all since 2013.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hmmm.
Eddie, please understand I'm trying to laugh with you here else it'll look like I'm attacking you. I'm not, I think you actually agree with my point and many, many others quotes could be examples. Spending the many hours AllLive offers listening to the same people is not natural and doesn't happen elsewhere. Take a break if it grates!

I only gathered these as I had an entertaining skim through this thread because I've nothing better to do. Initially forum is praising WRC+ with a couple of live stages. Then AllLive launches, then it's mostly moaning, some about the customer and technical service, but also moaning about human beings just for existing. Just about everybody who has appeared on AllLive has had a ribbing here. The "skiing man", the "Citroen woman", the "Brazilian social media star", regulars Jon, Julian, Paul, Ben, Becs, Abi, Kiri, Molly, Colin, Mads, Kris, Marcus... comical really. Yes everyone can have their opinion but it's not always everything has to be shared - and I know I'm not immune.

Read them and you'll see mine are mainly criticism of the commentators on the live coverage and for talking too much over the action.

Those that do the links are not a problem as they're only on a short time. I dont think I've said anything actually against Kiri, but only that I think Mollly is better.

[cali]

Kiri is fine but really like Molly better.

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[SubaruNorway]

Anyone seeing where the onboard multi cam button is? Apparently it's back

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kiri is fine but really like Molly better.

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Molly has a bit more authority maybe due to her extensive experience behind the wheel herself.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Watching ERC+ for Rally Poland I see that the live stream only has English comms available.... BUT there's also a No Commentary option. :)

[Eli]

Watching ERC+ for Rally Poland I see that the live stream only has English comms available.... BUT there's also a No Commentary option. :)

Wish we wouldn't be deprived that option in WRC, it used to be there but they took it away last year.

[MentalParadox]

Absolute amateur hour again at WRC+. For some reason they still struggle to start their broadcast on time so we can see the first car depart. And that was SS2, the first stage of that day. Then on SS4 suddenly the image disappears (in the middle of one of Julian's sentences) for three minutes and then comes back with no acknowledgment or explanation...? And that's not mentioning the endless connection and buffering problems the service had yesterday, which normally never happens to me as I have a very, very fast connection.

[DoN_cz]

When the image suddenly goes to rotating map and you lose the audio as well, that's usually a sign of something "bad" happening. Im not talking about that situation where they just lose signal and it goes to that map all the time - you still have the commentary there. It's their "security" screen (as they are ~20 seconds ahead of the stream) which they use when they don't want to show something. It was used id Monza 2 years ago, when I think Evans crashed and there was some red thing falling down from tree on his windscreen (I think they thought he might have hit a spectator there). Another example is when Kalle crashed his Fabia R5 in Argentina (I think) few years ago and it looked like he might hit some spectators there. I know it happened also this year atleast once, but I dont remember the reason. Though in Safari, it seems that nothing happened - only thing I could think of - hey may have hit some animal, but I dont remember anyone mentioning such thing. And they even showed Kalle driving over some warthogs (atleast it looked like it - maybe they run away) few stages later.

[AnttiL]

I also got sh*t scared on that break on SS4 when first Kalle was going fast, then we got the rotating map for a while and then when the image returned Neuville was driving slowly (because he had lost power).

The last time they used that security screen was in Portugal when Suninen went off at the start of Fafe, there were spectators in that corner, but luckily no one got hit.

Once again I have inside information from the WRC+ team and I've heard it was not easy to work in Kenya, so we should cut them some slack for a bit of gremlins while most of the action was covered with no problems.

[rallyfiend]

Should they be cut some slack? Because they're having to work in Kenya?

It's literally their companies decision that they're in Kenya.....

[Eli]

I was wondering, how come Jon Desborough has been commentating on the highlights each day for the entire rally? they used to split it between him & Paul King up until a couple of seasons ago.