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PLuto
9th January 2015, 18:11
Actually, there are two possibilities for Kevin. One in WRC car, one not in WRC car :)

EstWRC
9th January 2015, 18:30
i really hope to see Abbring in a WRC or WRC2 car, especially WRC. Besides my fellow estonians he and Lukyanuk are the ones i really look and root for.

Jack4688`
9th January 2015, 23:41
Factory Porsche?








lol

RS
10th January 2015, 10:22
Some events in a works Citroen could place Abbring in a good position to take over from Ostberg in 2016.

AdvEvo
10th January 2015, 14:59
Can Abbring bring Some money?

N.O.T
10th January 2015, 15:06
why people care about Abbring ?

Rallyper
10th January 2015, 15:15
why people care about Abbring ?

Yeah, that man and his future is a problem for so many on this forum. It confuses me a lot too.

Hope though he´ll get some rallies in good cars.

Fast Eddie WRC
11th January 2015, 15:26
Great-looking i20WRC concept car

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7EzU8QCYAAGNjb.jpg:large

PLuto
12th January 2015, 23:26
Hyundai Motorsport has registered also his "N" team, same like last year. We will see if it is only for Paddon or also another driver...

EightGear
13th January 2015, 00:26
@sebmarshall: Look out for some interesting news tomorrow…!! #2015 #Rally

So maybe tomorrow some news about Abbring?

jd_89
13th January 2015, 00:28
Hyundai Motorsport has registered also his "N" team, same like last year. We will see if it is only for Paddon or also another driver...

Haven't they confirmed recently, that there will not be any swapping of drivers this year?

Mirek
13th January 2015, 00:31
That was about the first team not about the second "N" one ;)

MartijnS
13th January 2015, 00:32
Seb Marshall tweeted that some interesting news is coming tomorrow. So Abbring his program will be presented I guess!

EightGear
13th January 2015, 00:35
This was posted a few days ago about a potential move to Hyundai or Skoda by Abbring:

http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blognl/?p=26994 (use Google translate)

PLuto
13th January 2015, 00:38
This was posted a few days ago about a potential move to Hyundai or Skoda by Abbring:

http://www.autonews-magazine.com/blognl/?p=26994 (use Google translate)

This was two biggest possibilities...

mousti
13th January 2015, 10:02
According to Colin Clark, Abbring has been appointed as a test driver for Hyundai. I hope it's also as a competing driver.. Otherwise that's not really a good deal.

Selective rounds also, that's a bit better :p

sindroms
13th January 2015, 10:05
According to Colin Clark, Abbring has been appointed as a test driver for Hyundai. I hope it's also as a competing driver.. Otherwise that's not really a good deal.

Hyundai Motorsport ‏@HyundaiWRC
Kevin will take part in the development of the New Gen. i20 #WRC & will compete in selected WRC rounds w/ the team alongside @sebmarshal

EstWRC
13th January 2015, 10:10
Great news. I like that Hyundai gives chance to young drivers, last year Paddon and this year Abbring.

N.O.T
13th January 2015, 10:10
Hyundai Motorsport ‏@HyundaiWRC
Kevin will take part in the development of the New Gen. i20 #WRC & will compete in selected WRC rounds w/ the team alongside @sebmarshal

Good news...so i guess now according to the italians the main driver for Toyota is that Camilli guy...

LOL... pathetic.

mousti
13th January 2015, 10:16
A bit new livery also for Hyundai

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/1602015_756864567726020_3349248460870912142_o.jpg

EightGear
13th January 2015, 10:32
Great news, the livery sucks even more than last year though.

EstWRC
13th January 2015, 10:41
Agreed, that Mobis logo on the bonnet doesnt fit at all.

EstWRC
13th January 2015, 11:07
Citroen's livery https://twitter.com/CitroenRacing/status/554937619877224448

that is just so awful

Mirek
13th January 2015, 11:13
Hyundai Motorsport ‏@HyundaiWRC
Kevin will take part in the development of the New Gen. i20 #WRC & will compete in selected WRC rounds w/ the team alongside @sebmarshal

So finally he chose. Good luck for him! Of course I'm a little disappointed that he didn't sign with Škoda but I fully understand his choice :)

jbmarcus21
13th January 2015, 12:59
Hyundai i20Wrc 2015
http://planetemarcus.com/hyundai-presente-sa-i20wrc-2015/

Citroen DS3Wrc 2015
http://planetemarcus.com/ds3wrc-2015-fete-les-60ans/

Eli
13th January 2015, 17:16
Citroen have ruined the stylish looking DS3 entiirely with that livery, preffered it when it was red & blue...

makinen_fan
14th January 2015, 07:23
Hayden confirmed he will do all the rallies (except Monte of course)

GigiGalliNo1
14th January 2015, 09:46
According to Colin Clark, Abbring has been appointed as a test driver for Hyundai. I hope it's also as a competing driver.. Otherwise that's not really a good deal.

Selective rounds also, that's a bit better :p

Funny how you'll read a commentators tweet/news but not notice the official team report.

mousti
14th January 2015, 10:37
Funny how you'll read a commentators tweet/news but not notice the official team report.

Yeah funny because Mr Clark spread it out before Hyundai came out with it. That's why I edited it ;)

rallyfiend
14th January 2015, 11:04
Yeah funny because Mr Clark spread it out before Hyundai came out with it. That's why I edited it ;)

No he didn't.

You ever note that he manages to tweet about it about 4 minutes before anyone else does. He just gets the same email as everyone else. He's just a bit quicker on the twitter button.

Either that, or it's a massive coincidence that he ALWAYS manages to hear from 'sources' just a few minutes before everyone else?...

mousti
14th January 2015, 11:12
No he didn't.

You ever note that he manages to tweet about it about 4 minutes before anyone else does. He just gets the same email as everyone else. He's just a bit quicker on the twitter button.

Either that, or it's a massive coincidence that he ALWAYS manages to hear from 'sources' just a few minutes before everyone else?...
Offcourse and I was talking about the Twitter feed.. But anyways this is a bit offtopic isn't it :p

Andre Oliveira
14th January 2015, 19:50
Hyundai will not use the paddle shift system at Monte Carlo. Maybe will debut the system later in season. According autosport.pt they prefer update engine and chassis.

EstWRC
14th January 2015, 20:16
https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-0/10924744_10152937330185733_3039401217364213285_n.j pg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=2e656579c1dbedce7167200f30610e47&oe=556DCA78&__gda__=1429214062_1e872c269c8c34b272e8e7d8274d95c f

Kubica livery, amazing

jbmarcus21
14th January 2015, 20:25
Kubica livery wowwww
http://planetemarcus.com/robert-kubica-devoile-sa-ford-fiesta-wrc-2015/

Simmi
14th January 2015, 21:20
Wow and amazing as in..... wow it's amazing how uninspired that livery is.

stefanvv
14th January 2015, 21:37
The livery is fine by me. Let it bring more finishes though:)

dimviii
14th January 2015, 22:18
i really dont like this livery.

EightGear
14th January 2015, 22:40
i really dont like this livery.
Me neither, so far all official liveries are ugly or boring except M-Sport. Hopefully VW will finally change theirs.

Eli
14th January 2015, 22:51
we'll see tommorow if VW can change their livery finally

Teardrop
15th January 2015, 00:06
we'll see tommorow if VW can change their livery finally

Tommorow?

Mirek
15th January 2015, 01:09
i really dont like this livery.

It's also very unpractical for hot events.

EightGear
15th January 2015, 12:31
VW probably in full Red Bull colours.

Fast Eddie WRC
15th January 2015, 12:32
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7Yz3SPCQAA9rgy.jpg:large

MartijnS
15th January 2015, 12:48
Comparable with the Red Bull Fabia's I think.

http://rallye-info.com/images/photos/general/2006spain/740/Aigner6.jpg

makinen_fan
15th January 2015, 12:58
More colourful race suits

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7Y3bnOCQAArGY2.jpg

smsgrafica
15th January 2015, 13:00
No live stream, I presume...

Fast Eddie WRC
15th January 2015, 13:02
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7Y6VubCIAA3jdG.jpg:large

Fast Eddie WRC
15th January 2015, 13:04
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7Y7NzUCYAEtxCV.jpg

smsgrafica
15th January 2015, 13:05
I like it!

A FONDO
15th January 2015, 13:07
http://www.motorsportforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=451&d=1421150010

Fast Eddie WRC
15th January 2015, 13:07
No wonder M-Sport had to change... 2015 they've gone mostly white, as VW go dark blue.

wwbroe
15th January 2015, 13:08
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7Y7NzUCYAEtxCV.jpg

I like it too, looks good in blue...

rallyfiend
15th January 2015, 13:11
Red Bull on the bonnet is much larger than then past.

The white front guards I'm not that much of a fan of.

Fast Eddie WRC
15th January 2015, 13:13
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7Y9DHhCYAAY-t1.jpg

smsgrafica
15th January 2015, 13:14
Wow, REALLY beautiful!

rallyfiend
15th January 2015, 13:16
They seemed to have completely ditched 'R' branding.

Now just VW.

smsgrafica
15th January 2015, 13:19
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7Y91tpCQAA3Dbl.jpg

mousti
15th January 2015, 13:19
They seemed to have completely ditched 'R' branding.

Now just VW.

Official name though stays at Polo R WRC

smsgrafica
15th January 2015, 13:23
No vertical elements on the rear wing?

smsgrafica
15th January 2015, 13:24
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7Y_IIzCcAErRFe.jpg

PLuto
15th January 2015, 13:25
No wonder M-Sport had to change... 2015 they've gone mostly white, as VW go dark blue.

Maybe M-Sport thoughts that VW was so fast because of white livery? :)

bluuford
15th January 2015, 13:29
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7Y9DHhCYAAY-t1.jpg

Can anyone quickly phpotoshop side view so that VW is left and Ford is on the right.. one is dark at the front.. the other has dark colours at the back:-)

smsgrafica
15th January 2015, 13:30
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7ZBNonCMAEq7W8.jpg

focus206
15th January 2015, 13:32
looks like M-Sport and VW have opposite liveries :D I like the VW logo on the livery more than the "R"

smsgrafica
15th January 2015, 13:33
I think the VW logo should be placed a little bit higher and more towards the back

smsgrafica
15th January 2015, 13:36
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7ZCi59CUAEOaXD.jpg

Miika
15th January 2015, 13:38
Let the VWRC season 2015 begin.

EstWRC
15th January 2015, 13:40
M-sport beats easily all of them this year IMO, looks OK, i was hoping that they will go this way https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B12jOrSIIAIv-pA.jpg

Quad
15th January 2015, 13:48
Livery ranking for me this year:

1. Kubica (I like this dark color )
2. Prokop
3. VW
4. M-Sport
5. Hyundai
6. Citroen

smsgrafica
15th January 2015, 13:57
My ranking:

1. Kubica
2. M-Sport
3. VW
4. Protasov
5. Prokop
6. Hyundai
7. Citroen

vino_93
15th January 2015, 14:38
Some news from Rallye de France. For the moment, Corsica is still not official.
FFSA (french federation) has to close his contract with Alsace. FFSA has to vote it at the end of january. Corsican comity thinks it will be ok, but it's never sure ...
If the rally come-back in Corsica it will be a real Tour de Corse, starting from a point to go to another, not a race stuck near to Ajaccio or Bastia.
For the moment, no other region is candidate. So or the rally is in Corsica, or it doesn't exist anymore.

wildboar
15th January 2015, 14:45
Some news from Rallye de France. For the moment, Corsica is still not official.
FFSA (french federation) has to close his contract with Alsace. FFSA has to vote it at the end of january. Corsican comity thinks it will be ok, but it's never sure ...
If the rally come-back in Corsica it will be a real Tour de Corse, starting from a point to go to another, not a race stuck near to Ajaccio or Bastia.
For the moment, no other region is candidate. So or the rally is in Corsica, or it doesn't exist anymore.

Nice! :)

WUff1
15th January 2015, 15:41
1. VW
2. M-Sport
3. Prokop
4. Hyundai
5. Kubica
6. Citroen

smsgrafica
15th January 2015, 15:47
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20150114-2237-low-Polo_WRC_camera_R_01.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20150114-2243-low-Polo_WRC_camera_R_08.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20150114-2236-low-Polo_WRC_camera_R2_06.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20150114-2242-low-Polo_WRC_camera_R_07.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20150114-2241-low-Polo_WRC_camera_R_05.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20150114-2240-low-Polo_WRC_camera_R_04.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20150114-2239-low-Polo_WRC_camera_R_03.jpg
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20150114-2238-low-Polo_WRC_camera_R_02.jpg

makinen_fan
15th January 2015, 15:48
Personally I dont really like the VW especially the front half of the car, it is too dark. The rear is nice.
M-sport is by far the best this year for me.

omer yetis
15th January 2015, 15:50
is this a factory team or a sponsor team?
Redbull step too much forward then the manufacturer....
IMO

smsgrafica
15th January 2015, 15:54
http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20150115-2259-low-VW-WRC15-WOB-BK1-0726.jpg

mousti
15th January 2015, 16:44
the paddle shift in the Polo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7ZlxQQCIAEMMqm.jpg:large

rallyfiend
15th January 2015, 16:58
is this a factory team or a sponsor team?
Redbull step too much forward then the manufacturer....
IMO

Geez, you must hate the Citroen, Hyundai and Ford then....

MJW
15th January 2015, 17:00
I like the RedBull VW Polo - I think its the best looking livery of the 2015 season, with MSport 2nd, I think the Citroen is awful.
However, I cant help but thinking that RedBull should have used that money to develop the promotion of the sport, it's not like VW were short of budget before. Also, should a sports promoter be so blatantly associated with one manufacturer? OK I know its the manufacturer that wins, but it doesnt come accross as impartial. And this from a Seb Ogier VW supporter.

dimviii
15th January 2015, 17:11
for sure Citroen is the most ugly

AdvEvo
15th January 2015, 17:35
Unbelievable a company like red bull can make so much money selling poison to people.

pantealex
15th January 2015, 17:36
Hyundai is last in my list, so boring.

N.O.T
15th January 2015, 17:46
Unbelievable a company like red bull can make so much money selling poison to people.

redbull is nectar not poison.

jbmarcus21
15th January 2015, 18:02
Full Gallery Photos Polo wrc 2015
http://bit.ly/1u9PfYL

dominik_r
15th January 2015, 18:11
redbull is nectar not poison.

I am afraid, it's the poison

Mirek
15th January 2015, 18:43
I am afraid, it's the poison

Can You elaborate what makes it poisonous? There is caffeine, taurine, sucrose, glucose and B vitamins. Of course a lot of things can be called poison if You take huge quantity of them. The caffeine amount in one can is similar to one cup of coffee.

N.O.T
15th January 2015, 18:47
nectar of gods and humans.. end of discussion.

dominik_r
15th January 2015, 19:06
Can You elaborate what makes it poisonous? There is caffeine, taurine, sucrose, glucose and B vitamins. Of course a lot of things can be called poison if You take huge quantity of them. The caffeine amount in one can is similar to one cup of coffee.

and who said that coffee is good for human body? This is not the place to discuss about our health :) By the way

http://static.pokazywarka.pl/i/5509289/165651/wrc15.jpg

dimviii is right, DS is most ugly. I hope it will be competitive this season. Especially Meeke

N.O.T
15th January 2015, 19:14
Coffee is not nectar... tea is.

A FONDO
15th January 2015, 19:19
DS is a bit too ugly to be competitive in WRC :D

Polo could be better without some elements in the front, but is still too dark

Kubica looks good but I want to see it under sunlight

EstWRC
15th January 2015, 19:28
Kubica looks good but I want to see it under sunlight

This. id like to see all of them under sunlight, the Polo just looks too shiny to me on these launch photos and the transformation from front to back isnt so good as M-sport's IMO. Maybe my opinion will change if i see the cars next week from videos and pictures but at the moment it is: M-sport, Kubica, VW, Prokop, Hyundai.................Citroen.

EightGear
15th January 2015, 19:36
VW looks good, maybe just a little too dark on the front but it's much better than previous 2 years.


Makes the Citroën look even worse and uglier than it already was.

Eli
15th January 2015, 20:17
VW should have had the VW Logo on the bonnet and leave it a bit cleaner on the side and have the bulls a bit smaller, apart from that i think they should have made it dark blue all over the car. but they still have the best livery of this year with M-Sport 2nd and Citroen Last-Ugly and not esthetic and missing too much red :(

OnlyRally
15th January 2015, 21:48
DS is a bit too ugly to be competitive in WRC :D

Polo could be better without some elements in the front, but is still too dark

Kubica looks good but I want to see it under sunlight

Citroën is the only one with gravel set up when presenting the livery. Will look little bit better with asphalt set up, still the ugliest I think.

I think the polo will look better in the daylight.

Don't agree with u on the Kubica part, but his car looks great :)

dimviii
15th January 2015, 21:58
have we got any RX section?

Ex-World Rally driver Manfred Stohl joins 2015 World RX field

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117374

stefanvv
15th January 2015, 22:01
Yes we have somewhere.

Maui J.
15th January 2015, 22:26
Unbelievable a company like red bull can make so much money selling poison to people.

Energy Drinks are the Cigarettes of today.
Totally agree, totally poison.

The human body does not need this much sugar or caffeine.
Wake up people... and go to bed when your tried. Or just have another Red Bull...if you like to live on adrenalin!!

Time will tell the long term effects of these crap drinks.

Sure I'll watch the Red Bull Polos but I'll never spend a cent on the product.

@ N.O.T. Nectar?...who's got the sad pathetic life now, LOL!!! I love to know what you eat then...actually no I wouldn't.

EightGear
15th January 2015, 22:55
By the way, Mikkelsen will use the old car (not talking about liveries of course) untill Portugal.

stefanvv
15th January 2015, 23:00
Energy Drinks are the Cigarettes of today.
Totally agree, totally poison.

Nicotine has small effect of what energy drinks are supposed to do, the taurine is typical for the tea I believe. Anyway this is discussion for bar talk thread.

stefanvv
15th January 2015, 23:08
By the way, Mikkelsen will use the old car (not talking about liveries of course) untill Portugal.

So this is kind of shift of when he started with VW (It was Portugal 2013, wasn't it?). Lets see what will be difference in the new Polo, there are some upgrades in the engine, suspension, etc.

EightGear
15th January 2015, 23:15
Yes, I think Sweden could be a good place to compare any time differences between the old and the new car.

I wonder when Hyundai will use their new i20?

stefanvv
15th January 2015, 23:19
I wonder when Hyundai will use their new i20?

I think late spring/early summer, if they're ready:)

Formaldehyde
16th January 2015, 04:52
Jesus Christ... why are some people so concerned with what other people do with their life? How does other people drinking Red Bull affect you (or smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol etc. for that matter)? So on average you're going to live until you're 76 while the Red Bull drinkers will live until they're 75... congratulations? The world would be a much better place if people minded their own business without sticking their noses into other people's lifes. I don't really drink Red Bull either but why would I give a sh*t? Let people enjoy their short time on this planet however they see fit...

Sorry for the offtopic rant but I hate politically correct BS.

Now to get back on topic... I don't like the new VW livery so much. The dark part would be nicer if it took a smaller portion of the car (so that it would be mostly white, and not mostly dark). I liked the previous all white livery better. But it's still one of the best looking liveries, after M-Sport. And Citröen has not only the ugliest livery, but also the ugliest wheels (but I guess this is not new to the 2015 season).

Ounin
16th January 2015, 09:48
Good morning Formaldehyde I fully igree. I guess the 'BS' thing of political correctness means the feaces of a Bull? Hey, hope it's not red colored...don't drink it!
Red Bull, Monster, Rockstar etc etc are paying a lot of money to make Motorsport going and that is their great contribution in this economical difficult period that is going on for many years now. Drink it if you like, or not. Enjoy the drivers and the cars with their stickers on it.

stefanvv
16th January 2015, 10:15
Exactly. When tobacco companies were heavily investing in motorsport, that was great for the motorsport fans, now it's the same with energy drinks companies, I don't drink them either, because I don't think I need them, not that I think they are so harmful, everyone is free to do what they want with their lives, there is enough information on the internet everyone can judge it himself. But I'm happy there is serious investment in the motorsport, if it was more with Rally, great, let them do so.

As for the liveries VW still has the best one imo, probably there are some small details could be better, but it is still great. I liked the white better though.

Franky
16th January 2015, 10:24
I don't think this debate started because someone personally dislikes energy drinks. It seems like on the background it's why can energy drinks be advertised and tobacco not, when both can harm the human body if consumed in larger quantities.

vino_93
16th January 2015, 10:43
Tobacco is bad for you, but too for the people around you when you are smoking, who inhale a substance they maybe don't want to.
Drinking RedBull is only your own problem.
I think that the main difference, and why one is banned, and other accepted.

N.O.T
16th January 2015, 10:46
hearing so many negative things about the magic nectar of happiness makes me sad....

AdvEvo
16th January 2015, 10:58
I don't get it why people are so concerned what other teams do with there car livery's. The world could be a better place if there was not such a big fuss about rally car livery's:)

N.O.T
16th January 2015, 11:12
I don't get it why people are so concerned what other teams do with there car livery's. The world could be a better place if there was not such a big fuss about rally car livery's:)

external beauty is the most important thing in life, so liveries matter.

EstWRC
16th January 2015, 11:16
some news about Tänak https://twitter.com/OttTanak/status/556030429636333568

rallyfiend
16th January 2015, 12:50
http://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2015/01/wrc-confirms-live-tv-coverage-2015-season/

Is that an increase?

Seems like a lot.

Franky
16th January 2015, 13:24
http://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2015/01/wrc-confirms-live-tv-coverage-2015-season/

Is that an increase?

Seems like a lot.

Basically they are saying on average each event will have at least two stages broadcasted live.

stefanvv
16th January 2015, 13:28
http://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2015/01/wrc-confirms-live-tv-coverage-2015-season/

Is that an increase?

Seems like a lot.

I think it was similar number last year. First events got a priority though, seems the same this one.

AndyRAC
16th January 2015, 15:06
Basically they are saying on average each event will have at least two stages broadcasted live.

Wow!! They're really spoiling us...... ;)

EightGear
16th January 2015, 16:35
http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads8/54b92f97dbd91/54b92f97c61eb-polowheel.jpg

mousti
16th January 2015, 16:43
Seems the new trend is that every driver develops their own brand.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Nexus 5 met Tapatalk

Fast Eddie WRC
16th January 2015, 17:25
http://www.thecheckeredflag.co.uk/2015/01/wrc-confirms-live-tv-coverage-2015-season/

Is that an increase?

Seems like a lot.

Not really a lot but hopefully that's a minimum and there will still be a few more live stages available from the 'home' broadcaster on certain events...

In this day and age with the technology there should be much better live coverage.

tolis
16th January 2015, 17:25
Dark round steering wheel! :D

dupanton
16th January 2015, 17:39
What I don't understand about the live stages:
When there are 2 passes through a stage, why not broadcast them both? If all equipment is there, it should cost that much more to cover them both...

rallyfiend
16th January 2015, 17:48
What I don't understand about the live stages:
When there are 2 passes through a stage, why not broadcast them both? If all equipment is there, it should cost that much more to cover them both...

They often are.

That is what's happening in Monte on Sunday - the two passes of the same stage. In Mexico is appears to be the same stage run on both Saturday and Sunday being done.

I guess there needs to be the appetite from broadcasters to take it as well. Just because you produce it, does not mean anyone will take it...

Rallyper
16th January 2015, 17:59
They often are.

That is what's happening in Monte on Sunday - the two passes of the same stage. In Mexico is appears to be the same stage run on both Saturday and Sunday being done.

I guess there needs to be the appetite from broadcasters to take it as well. Just because you produce it, does not mean anyone will take it...

They just have to change angles or walk 20 metres to make it a new stage, if you see what I mean.

dupanton
16th January 2015, 18:57
They often are.

That is what's happening in Monte on Sunday - the two passes of the same stage. In Mexico is appears to be the same stage run on both Saturday and Sunday being done.

I guess there needs to be the appetite from broadcasters to take it as well. Just because you produce it, does not mean anyone will take it...

But they don't do it in Sweden for instant. Why not broadcasting 5 stages then?

PLuto
16th January 2015, 19:24
But they don't do it in Sweden for instant. Why not broadcasting 5 stages then?

Because they promised three per event? :)

Mk2 RS2000
17th January 2015, 04:24
nectar of gods and humans.. end of discussion.

That my friend is the description of Speights. Lolly water is for Ladyboys !!

KiwiWRCfan
18th January 2015, 10:20
Can any German speakers interpret this piece on Ilka Minor's website please http://www.minor.at/?p=3570
Seems Ilka Minor and Henning Solberg might be in a Team Adapta Fiesta for all 2015 #WRC events. Seems a very interesting development

GallardoGT
18th January 2015, 12:30
http://www.imgdumper.nl/uploads8/54b92f97dbd91/54b92f97c61eb-polowheel.jpg

I'm glad that the flappy paddle gearbox is back, love it!

Anyone can use this gearbox from now on?

wwbroe
18th January 2015, 12:33
Can any German speakers interpret this piece on Ilka Minor's website please http://www.minor.at/?p=3570
Seems Ilka Minor and Henning Solberg might be in a Team Adapta Fiesta for all 2015 #WRC events. Seems a very interesting development

That is indeed what is written in this article, normally they have planned the whole season in WRC with Adapta team of father Ostberg (Morten). Two first rallies are allready sure, the rest will be seen afterwards, but if everything goes according to plan, they will compete in whole championship.:)

sete
18th January 2015, 13:18
I am thinking all teams from now can used a paddle shift.
Fingers crossed for Henning and Ilka,will be nice to see them on all rounds

EstWRC
18th January 2015, 13:24
working clothes for M-sport drivers

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/p480x480/10933861_10152944632370733_1605850192860599067_n.j pg?oh=0521dbe8062e0289b1eca98f244ef80e&oe=556F56B3&__gda__=1428757768_c710936acfc55ad7ff156d1b11ac9cf 0

makinen_fan
18th January 2015, 21:10
Interesting way to see how livery for each has changed:
http://www.shakedownmag.com/wrc-2015-evolution-survival-of-the-fastest/

Fast Eddie WRC
18th January 2015, 23:02
Interesting way to see how livery for each has changed:
http://www.shakedownmag.com/wrc-2015-evolution-survival-of-the-fastest/


That slider is cool !!

Fast Eddie WRC
19th January 2015, 16:21
Great news !! WRC+ digital fan service goes live in UK :D

FIA World Rally Championship fans in the UK can follow the excitement of the 2015 season via the WRC+ interactive digital service for the first time.

WRC+ offers fans access to live special stages, highlights programmes, live maps and onboard action, and will be available to fans in the UK from this week’s opening round at Rallye Monte Carlo (22 - 25 January).

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7uOP0rIAAAGBcQ.jpg:large

https://www.facebook.com/walesrallygb/photos/a.121274954631549.24704.105010216258023/768782439880794/?type=1&theater

Andre Oliveira
20th January 2015, 14:00
Portuguese Autosport

https://scontent-a-mad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10933782_207082302795716_5377793927912097579_n.jpg ?oh=17e89d0f2a9584b7d0fefdb7020f6ff3&oe=55326B2A&dl=1

AndyRAC
20th January 2015, 17:42
I'd be amazed if the British Autosport had the Monte as their cover story.....but we'll wait and see.

Ounin
20th January 2015, 19:41
I'm afraid the soul of Autosport magazine has sold its covers to the F1 devil

the sniper
20th January 2015, 19:49
My money would be on another pretty picture of Button, with some vaguely newsworthy headline about Honda...

Simmi
21st January 2015, 04:18
I'm afraid the soul of Autosport magazine has sold its covers to the F1 devil

Autosport cop a lot of flack for their covers/editorial direction but when I did work experience there they told me that issue sales drop massively every time they try and feature an alternative cover. What would you do?

Not enough people are interested which is the sad reality.

Ounin
21st January 2015, 08:30
Yes that is sad, in general magazines are going through difficult period indeed. But by showing on the cover there is more to come than only Eccelstone's wallet, it might attract a wider range of Motorsport interest. On other hand I believe you that they have tried many options. I think Autosport is by far the best Motorsport magazine in the world, in the same category as the BBC; good and reliable - ish. For me a magazine is great to have a relax moment and dig some deeper than the Internet does. The power of the Internet is also the reason 'Autosport' is not for sale here in Benelux anymore.

Fast Eddie WRC
21st January 2015, 11:57
I'd be amazed if the British Autosport had the Monte as their cover story.....but we'll wait and see.

Motorsport News is for rally fans in the UK:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B73YG4JIIAAaQal.jpg

AndyRAC
21st January 2015, 13:05
Autosport cop a lot of flack for their covers/editorial direction but when I did work experience there they told me that issue sales drop massively every time they try and feature an alternative cover. What would you do?

Not enough people are interested which is the sad reality.

They ran with a BTCC cover, and the circulation dropped quite significantly. They are a business, not a charity. However, they do concentrate on F1 to the detriment of the other series - whereas once all got a decent spice of the pie.
They are only reflecting what the general public/ media think; Motorsport = F1. Not helped by F1 and BTCC being the only live Motorsport on terrestrial TV.

noel157
21st January 2015, 13:06
Autosport certainly did sell itself to F1. The "Special Stage" section has long gone. But the online version is just about ok.

Fast Eddie WRC
21st January 2015, 14:11
WRC Promoter confirms UK fans will be able to watch the 2015 WRC season on both BT Sport & ITV4 ... :D

http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/january-2015/british-tv/page/2081--12-12-.html

GigiGalliNo1
21st January 2015, 15:05
Karlip (@Karlip1)
21/01/2015 9:59 pm
BREAKING: FFSA confirms that #RallyeDeFrance 2015 will NOT take place in Alsace! FFSA looking for alternatives. #WRC

RAS007
21st January 2015, 15:16
Karlip (@Karlip1)
21/01/2015 9:59 pm
BREAKING: FFSA confirms that #RallyeDeFrance 2015 will NOT take place in Alsace! FFSA looking for alternatives. #WRC

No surprises there. It was only ever held in Alsace because of the Leotard. Back to Corsica!

OldF
22nd January 2015, 19:16
By YLE news Toyota will announce their participation in WRC 2017 next week. Nice if true.:)


http://yle.fi/urheilu/mm-rallipomot_innoissaan_uudesta_jasenesta_tervetuloa _toyota/7754167

Rally bosses excited about the new members: Welcome, Toyota!
Toyota confirms joining the WRC family next week. Other teams take the new manufacturer looking forward to.

At the end of 1999 to rally abandoned the Japanese giant is back in World Cup rallies during 2017. Competing teams are already well aware of the issue. One of the news enthusiastically hoping to have a Volkswagen Jost Capito, who believes the Japanese characters to be good for prompter immediately from the very beginning.

- It is reported here waiting. It is a fantastic story. Four of the top five car manufacturers have been included along with motor sport. Such does not seem to have ever taken place. It shows how easy it is to go on the other hand, the production of models based on cars, Capito said.

Toyota has prepared the ground return for several years. Future ajokki grounded Yaris model, which made the WRC rally car, including multiple Finnish champion Sebastian Lindholm is höykyttänyt for several months.

Capito led by Volkswagen is committed to the World Series until 2019, so the German character who received a worthy challenger special stages relatively soon.

- The harder the race, the better. All we are delighted that Toyota will be back. We encouraged them to return to last year, very much. While fighting for the special stages with one another, the species promoamista However, we do together. The ratio between all the actors are good. This is a really enjoyable environment, Capito chuckled.

Also, Citroën Racing team manager Yves Matton welcoming a new competitor to welcome kit.

- It is sure to bring a series of attractiveness in general. Japan has not Citroën very important market, but yes, Toyota, the input will be received with joy, Matton said.

jbmarcus21
25th January 2015, 14:20
#WRC Full standings 2015 after #montecarlo15 with (driver, team, special stage winners, power stage) planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/

N.O.T
26th January 2015, 15:32
I Think we need a new thread named WRC "news a rumours 2015" this one was started on dec 15th 2013.

thuGG
26th January 2015, 15:54
Then why don't you create one?

N.O.T
26th January 2015, 15:57
i am not important enough.

Miika
26th January 2015, 17:38
Grip your steering wheel with the all-new Sébastien Loeb Rally Evo (http://milestone.it/milestone-announces-sebastian-loeb-rally-evo/?lang=en)

"This uncompromising rally simulator debuts on PlayStation®4 and Xbox One. Created in collaboration with nine-time rally world champion, Sébastien Loeb Rally Evo will powerslide into players' homes all over the world with the aim of getting their adrenalin pumping and delivering all the thrills of the world of rally."


A video game where you can only drive a Citroen and where every sideways move is rewarded with a points reduction.

N.O.T
26th January 2015, 19:11
A video game where you can only drive a Citroen and where every sideways move is rewarded with a points reduction.

Thats the way to throw the finish managers and their handless dogs to the pit of crocs though... it works since 2003..

Sebastien Loeb... the pain goes on would be more appropriate.

The game will be S*** though the developer is useless.

tommeke_B
26th January 2015, 19:17
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Robert-Kubica-Crashes/1539375812946966 Just found out N.O.T. runs a facebook page... :D

N.O.T
26th January 2015, 19:25
LOLzors... naughty boy.

On a serious note I do not agree with pages like these though... crashes not always end well so i think its innapropriate especially when it refers to a specific driver.

makinen_fan
26th January 2015, 19:39
Rally-eMag
1 hr ·
NEWS: Kevin Abbring reveals Hyundai deal is for two seasons. The young Dutchman will drive for the team in both 2015 and 2016. Read the full interview with more details about the deal in the next issue of Rally-eMag, coming early next week.

N.O.T
26th January 2015, 19:54
Proper rally team.

mousti
26th January 2015, 21:56
Mads Ostberg will prepare rally Sweden with entering Hadeland Rally with a DS3 R5.

Eli
26th January 2015, 22:17
http://www.rallye-magazin.de/rallyes/wm/nachrichten/news-detail/d/2015/01/26/korsika-ist-kandidat-fuer-wm-lauf/index.html hopefully they'll bring back Corsica..it's been 7 years now

dimviii
26th January 2015, 22:32
Via @FlatOutWR_JP "Japan radio news say 'Toyota come back wrc next year'. really?! Toyota press conference is 30/1/2015 !!" #WRC #Toyota

N.O.T
26th January 2015, 23:13
good news... it will be interesting to see their driver choices.

RICARDO75
27th January 2015, 00:16
Mads Ostberg will prepare rally Sweden with entering Hadeland Rally with a DS3 R5.

And also on Finnskog Rally
http://www.resultater.rallyfinnskog.no/paameldte2_kl/9

giu canbera
27th January 2015, 01:45
Via @FlatOutWR_JP "Japan radio news say 'Toyota come back wrc next year'. really?! Toyota press conference is 30/1/2015 !!" #WRC #Toyota

2017

giu canbera
27th January 2015, 01:47
Heres some testing with the Yaris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gl8vbqwZ7mo

and heres some infos
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/01/27/business/first-foray-18-years-toyota-join-2017-world-rally-championship/#.VMbb4jMl9Qo.twitter

Ifox95
27th January 2015, 02:15
Remember there was news last year about a Ukrainian privateer called oleksii tamrazov trying to get together a programme to build and run a mg wrc .
Is it happening ? Did it ever get started ?

tommeke_B
27th January 2015, 14:45
http://www.francetvsport.fr/auto-moto/rallye/apres-son-monte-carlo-sebastien-chardonnet-fait-le-point-263379 Sébastien Chardonnet working on a project to do 8 to 10 WRC rounds this year... :)

PLuto
28th January 2015, 14:31
Remember there was news last year about a Ukrainian privateer called oleksii tamrazov trying to get together a programme to build and run a mg wrc .
Is it happening ? Did it ever get started ?

Actually project is over due to Russia/Ukraine problem...

Eli
28th January 2015, 19:54
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117488 concerning toyota

RS
28th January 2015, 23:36
The level of manufacturer interest in WRC is great now, but why? Has media coverage improved in other countries?

As someone pointed out even a specialist motorsport publication like Autosport barely mention rallying these days.

Rallyper
28th January 2015, 23:59
Only the fact there´s a German factory and Korean factory and French and semi-English factory team competing, make others have to (maybe) rethink. You want to be where competiton is. And that hasn´t anything to do with how much or little Autosport or any Media writes about rallying.

bluuford
29th January 2015, 00:38
The level of manufacturer interest in WRC is great now, but why? Has media coverage improved in other countries?

As someone pointed out even a specialist motorsport publication like Autosport barely mention rallying these days.

You live in a wrong country.. here you have at least one headline during each rally day in daily newspaper. And if you follow twitter, then you can see Sander Pärn, Karl Kruuda, Ott Tänak all their co-drivers + many other motorsport people invited to Estonian prime minister office ;-)

giu canbera
29th January 2015, 18:37
With the VW Beetle doing RallyX in the US (VW-Andretti) and now in FIA's WorldRX (Per Eklund), do u think is there any chances of a Beetle anytime soon in WRC?
Same question for the AWESOME Audi A1 Quattro (Ekstrom-Audi-RedBull)

N.O.T
29th January 2015, 18:42
No.

EightGear
29th January 2015, 18:47
Not a chance.

EightGear
29th January 2015, 19:19
By the way, has anyone seen this?

On Red Bull TV there is a full 52 minute Monte Carlo review available for free: http://www.redbull.tv/episodes/1421834027512-1265325182/monte-carlo#autostart

Seems like they finally start using their own platform to promote the sport?

stefanvv
29th January 2015, 19:40
Same question for the AWESOME Audi A1 Quattro (Ekstrom-Audi-RedBull)

I don't think AUDI would have any interest in WRC any time soon. It is not about QUATTRO technology and the company model with that name anymore.

Eli
29th January 2015, 19:47
I don't think AUDI would have any interest in WRC any time soon. It is not about QUATTRO technology and the company model with that name anymore.

and VW controls Audi so that's a no no

giu canbera
29th January 2015, 19:54
By the way, has anyone seen this?

On Red Bull TV there is a full 52 minute Monte Carlo review available for free: http://www.redbull.tv/episodes/1421834027512-1265325182/monte-carlo#autostart

Seems like they finally start using their own platform to promote the sport?

AWESOME! this redbulltv WRC should have its own topic! Watching it right now

stefanvv
29th January 2015, 19:56
and VW controls Audi so that's a no no

I'm not so sure about that. Anyway WRC doesn't fit the company image.

Rallyper
29th January 2015, 20:21
AWESOME! this redbulltv WRC should have its own topic! Watching it right now

Same stuff as on WRC+ and national swedish television.

AndyRAC
29th January 2015, 20:36
The level of manufacturer interest in WRC is great now, but why? Has media coverage improved in other countries?

As someone pointed out even a specialist motorsport publication like Autosport barely mention rallying these days.

Only VW & Hyundai are proper Manufacturer entries - Citroen is thanks to Abu Dhabi, and M-Sport is a privateer effort. Toyota is likely to be a Manufacturer effort - but they won't splash the cash since their F1 'failure'.

Jack4688`
29th January 2015, 20:56
By the way, has anyone seen this?

On Red Bull TV there is a full 52 minute Monte Carlo review available for free: http://www.redbull.tv/episodes/1421834027512-1265325182/monte-carlo#autostart

Seems like they finally start using their own platform to promote the sport?

Christ that intro is almost as excruciating as watching Eddie Jordan's silly little pieces he does for F1 on BBC

rallyfiend
29th January 2015, 21:10
Only VW & Hyundai are proper Manufacturer entries - Citroen is thanks to Abu Dhabi, and M-Sport is a privateer effort. Toyota is likely to be a Manufacturer effort - but they won't splash the cash since their F1 'failure'.

How can you say Citroen is not a manufacturer entry? It's run by a department of Citroen, by the same people who run the WTCC team.

Do you say thr WTCC team is not manufacturer?

AndyRAC
29th January 2015, 21:34
Their focus is primarily on the WTCC - of that there is no question. And I'm pretty sure the WTCC team doesn't have any visible Abu Dhabi sponsorship. If the WRC team didn't have that sponsorship - would they still be in the WRC?? So, while strictly speaking they are a full Manufacturer, they're not like VW & Hyundai, who are totally focused on the WRC.

rallyfiend
29th January 2015, 22:04
That's a fairly spurious and deliberately negative approach to take to it.

Why not see it as a better sign that the WRC team DOES have sponsorship, while the WTCC car runs with a largely blank car devoid of commercial sponsorship?

samWRC
29th January 2015, 22:13
By the way, has anyone seen this?

On Red Bull TV there is a full 52 minute Monte Carlo review available for free: http://www.redbull.tv/episodes/1421834027512-1265325182/monte-carlo#autostart

Seems like they finally start using their own platform to promote the sport?

Quite poor coverage. There was no mention of WRC-2 or other support categories. This seems to be a problem always with these reviews.

markf8691
29th January 2015, 22:42
Their focus is primarily on the WTCC - of that there is no question. And I'm pretty sure the WTCC team doesn't have any visible Abu Dhabi sponsorship. If the WRC team didn't have that sponsorship - would they still be in the WRC?? So, while strictly speaking they are a full Manufacturer, they're not like VW & Hyundai, who are totally focused on the WRC.

They may not be 100% focused on rally just, but still a manufacturer team - they have paid the entry fee & Citroen are running the team.

Just because a sponsor is supplying a part of the budget (in citroens case the majority) doesn't mean they are not a factory team.

If you think back over the years there was lot of manufacturer teams using sponsorship - Ford comes to mind most recently using BP sponsorship another is Lancia with their Martini sponsorship, Toyota with castrol etc

sollitt
29th January 2015, 23:33
Only VW & Hyundai are proper Manufacturer entries - Citroen is thanks to Abu Dhabi, .... That's your qualification? Not seen the Red Bull logos on the VW's or the Shell on Hyundai?


Toyota is likely to be a Manufacturer effort - but they won't splash the cash since their F1 'failure'.Rest assured, if Toyota re-enter the WRC they will have the budget to win.

EightGear
29th January 2015, 23:38
That DS3 is a driving Abu Dhabi advertisement. No Abu Dhabi probably means no Citroen in WRC, I can't see a similar situation with VW and Hyundai with Red Bull and Shell respectively.

I believe is was widely communicated by Citroën themselves that they are dependent of Abu Dhabi money.

They're still a manufacturer entry, but in a different way than VW and Hyundai.

N.O.T
30th January 2015, 00:12
Citroen is just an advertisement stand for Abu Dhabi.. no evolution no nothing... a joke.

EightGear
30th January 2015, 00:25
no evolution no nothing... a joke.

I wouldn't say that, they've got an improved engine and downforce with more to come apparently. Besides they've got the flappy paddle thing.

After VW they probably evolved most so far.

dimviii
30th January 2015, 11:05
Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally
@rallytravel @totalrally @davidnonekelly im hearing Citroen will be fully back in 2017 so Ogier's negotiating powers will be at their zenith

Fast Eddie WRC
30th January 2015, 12:43
Citroen is just an advertisement stand for Abu Dhabi.. no evolution no nothing... a joke.

' To start the new season, several significant upgrades have been made to all three of the DS 3 WRCs entered: engine, suspension, aerodynamics, gearbox, etc. “The DS 3 WRC is a very accomplished car, but we have worked hard to make it even more competitive,” commented Xavier Mestelan-Pinon, Citroën Racing’s Technical Director. “For example, we have focussed our efforts on the engine so that it delivers more power and torque, whilst also improving reliability. Taking advantage of the changes in the regulations, we have reintroduced steering wheel-mounted paddles for the gear changes. Other significant improvements have been made to the aerodynamics, with a new spoiler and a new front end that will be introduced shortly, as well as to the weight distribution with the use of lighter parts. Lastly, we have altered the kinematics of the rear suspension. Work is ongoing and, in the next few months, we will be presenting another aerodynamic upgrade.”

Eli
30th January 2015, 13:54
Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally
@rallytravel @totalrally @davidnonekelly im hearing Citroen will be fully back in 2017 so Ogier's negotiating powers will be at their zenith

what does that mean, will they take a year sabatical next year like they did back in 2006?

N.O.T
30th January 2015, 14:55
do not take British people seriously when it comes to rallying... especially when it comes to events 2 years away... anything can change until then.

Eli
30th January 2015, 15:33
do not take British people seriously when it comes to rallying... especially when it comes to events 2 years away... anything can change until then.

so should i n.o.t take you seriously also?

N.O.T
30th January 2015, 16:24
i am not British unfortunately, but i am also not a rally reporter...

Eli
30th January 2015, 16:37
i am not British unfortunately, but i am also not a rally reporter...
oh sorry, my bad.

Duvel
30th January 2015, 20:36
Lets hope Citroen stays in WRC untill 2017, and than again full force factory team.
Ford should wake up again to, so M-sport can keep the car up-to-speed.

Anyone seen pictures of how the new Hyundai WRC wil look. Should be better than the I20 they have now.

tommeke_B
30th January 2015, 20:39
Something about normal cars now, but still interesting. The first thing that come close to the Subaru's and Mitsubishi's of 10 years ago?

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fiesta/85091/sizzling-250bhp-ford-fiesta-rs-to-take-fight-to-polo-r "New Fiesta RS set for 2017, and it could get 4WD!" :)

Fast Eddie WRC
30th January 2015, 22:18
Something about normal cars now, but still interesting. The first thing that come close to the Subaru's and Mitsubishi's of 10 years ago?

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fiesta/85091/sizzling-250bhp-ford-fiesta-rs-to-take-fight-to-polo-r "New Fiesta RS set for 2017, and it could get 4WD!" :)

I saw this too... it would be great but I cant really see them going 4WD on a Fiesta... its not even been conformed that the Mk3 Focus RS is going to be all-wheel drive... :rolleyes:

Although seeing as VW may be going 4WD with their Polo R, then that might make Ford follow suit ... :)

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/polo/85376/volkswagen-polo-r-250bhp-4wd-prototype-driven

http://cdn1.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery_adv/public/volkswagen_polo_r_balck_back.jpg?itok=vDJU5RW7

Key spec: Polo R
Price: £22,000 (est)
Engine: 2.0-litre 4cyl turbo
Power: 250bhp
Transmission: Six-speed DSG, all-wheel drive
0-62mph/top speed: 5.8 sec/155mph (est)

Fly_Half
30th January 2015, 23:33
do not take British people seriously when it comes to rallying...

Sweeping generalisation alert.

GigiGalliNo1
31st January 2015, 05:24
Polo R Is not AWD... only Golf R is AWD...

tommeke_B
31st January 2015, 08:43
Polo R Is not AWD... only Golf R is AWD...

Read before you comment..

Jack4688`
31st January 2015, 09:23
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/polo/85376/volkswagen-polo-r-250bhp-4wd-prototype-driven

vino_93
31st January 2015, 12:58
I Autohebdo, I learn a bit more about Kubica plans for 2015. It's quite crazy, and to be honest, I can't see how he will succeed in rallying doing this ...

So he create the RK WRT, and take people he knows ... but who aren't rally expert. He is not using A-Style team, only renting the car, and it's his team which is managing all (testing, assistance, ...). He will buy a new Fiesta for Portugal, and hope to rent the old A-Style the rest of the year, to help financially speaking.
He didn't suscribe to WRC to do a lot of test and national events.

I can't see how he wants to progress by creating a team, managing it, ... even Solberg, which was a experimented driver, had difficulties to manage his team and doing rally at the highest level. So what is Kubica expeting ? It would be easier to rent to A-Style (or another rally team) and let them do what they know ... I don't understand his plan.

thuGG
31st January 2015, 13:21
Here is a podcast with Colin Clark talking about Kubica and his team, starts at 26 min:
http://totalrallystudio.podbean.com/e/episode-1-season-4-28012015/

A FONDO
31st January 2015, 13:31
I Autohebdo, I learn a bit more about Kubica plans for 2015. It's quite crazy, and to be honest, I can't see how he will succeed in rallying doing this ...

So he create the RK WRT, and take people he knows ... but who aren't rally expert. He is not using A-Style team, only renting the car, and it's his team which is managing all (testing, assistance, ...). He will buy a new Fiesta for Portugal, and hope to rent the old A-Style the rest of the year, to help financially speaking.
He didn't suscribe to WRC to do a lot of test and national events.

I can't see how he wants to progress by creating a team, managing it, ... even Solberg, which was a experimented driver, had difficulties to manage his team and doing rally at the highest level. So what is Kubica expeting ? It would be easier to rent to A-Style (or another rally team) and let them do what they know ... I don't understand his plan.
Why do you think is so difficult to manage it? Especially if you work with people you know and respect yourselves. Why pay more money for a team that eventually screws you?

bluuford
31st January 2015, 13:54
Solberg had quite limited funds but it seems that Kubica has a lot of funds.

So, it is actually win-win situation for both sides. He still buys all the parts from M-Sport and they get their money, I belive they get even more money as they are selling new parts for him.

Kubica pays a bit more but this time he can be sure that he gets all new parts. If he has enough funds then he can make sure he changes everything as often as needed.
As far as his name is so big in Poland, he can afford it.

Ounin
31st January 2015, 14:54
Apart from Lotos don't think he has many funds, he is just very rich, this is form his F1 days, I suspect him raising the full throttle from insurance after his crash.
Yes you get screwed if you pay cash to M-Sport and the team decides to witch car the money goes to...If you pay the top price for parts you suddenly are a very important customer and gets proirity treatment. And with own team you are independent and able to choose own engineer and tyre supplier, both are crucial for a good season apart from finishing the rally.

GigiGalliNo1
31st January 2015, 15:10
Better off doing all this extra work himself with "his" team then like many said and for a fact - get screwed by M-Sport and Citroen in the past.

peter_85
31st January 2015, 17:08
Apart from Lotos don't think he has many funds, he is just very rich, this is form his F1 days, I suspect him raising the full throttle from insurance after his crash.
Very rich? Maybe in comaprision to rally drivers. Also Lotos has really big funds for marketing (they support Kajetanowicz in ERC and Polish Rally Championship) and they seem satisfied with Kubica's cooperation, even if he has some problems in the last season.

mousti
31st January 2015, 18:12
LOL...

Eyvind Brynildsen ‏@E_Brynildsen 2 u2 uur geleden Vertaling weergeven
@voiceofrally I need help with my math!Grondal is now faster than mads at rally hadeland. I beat grondal 2 weeks ago. So im fastr than mads?

nafpaktos
31st January 2015, 18:48
He is not using A-Style team, only renting the car, and it's his team which is managing all (testing, assistance, ...). He will buy a new Fiesta for Portugal, and hope to rent the old A-Style the rest of the year, to help financially speaking.
sorry i dont get you,you say he rents the car he uses right now and after he will buy a new car and rent the old one(which is not his) to another driver!!!!!

nafpaktos
31st January 2015, 18:55
Apart from Lotos don't think he has many funds, he is just very rich, this is form his F1 days, I suspect him raising the full throttle from insurance after his crash.
Yes you get screwed if you pay cash to M-Sport and the team decides to witch car the money goes to...If you pay the top price for parts you suddenly are a very important customer and gets proirity treatment. And with own team you are independent and able to choose own engineer and tyre supplier, both are crucial for a good season apart from finishing the rally.

How can someeone be sure that a part is brand new and not just excellent rapaired-rebuilt?we are talking about msport guys.i am still a bit biased towards msport after antony's revelations in his blog.

N.O.T
31st January 2015, 19:07
How can someeone be sure that a part is brand new and not just excellent rapaired-rebuilt?we are talking about msport guys.i am still a bit biased towards msport after antony's revelations in his blog.

And why you believe those revelations ?

nafpaktos
31st January 2015, 19:37
Even if 10% is real then there is an issue!also i didnt se an answer from the directly concerned(msport).

N.O.T
31st January 2015, 19:40
If all these things were real M-sport would not be the best team to rent cars from... or rally privateers are just retarded... with all these fords i guess they do something right.

nafpaktos
31st January 2015, 19:45
Its easier to find a ford than another car,i think this is the most important reason.

N.O.T
31st January 2015, 19:50
Then they should not complain...

and the fact that i have not heard anything from proper rally drivers is also a hint, never heard anything from Latvala or Hirvonen in their privateer days...

adr17
31st January 2015, 19:57
Then they should not complain...

and the fact that i have not heard anything from proper rally drivers is also a hint, never heard anything from Latvala or Hirvonen in their privateer days...

Exactly a average driver making excuses for poor performances it's always the cars fault or team . I will write a blog to make me look better

And from I'm sure kubica will be back with msport by Portugal after the a style disaster in monte

Protasov is back for Sweden , what do the msport haters say about that

nafpaktos
31st January 2015, 20:00
Maybe because the two you mentioned had really good potentials and wilson thought they deserved something good, or maybe you are right.

N.O.T
31st January 2015, 20:01
Maybe because the two you mentioned had really good potentials and wilson thought they deserved something good, or maybe you are right.

i am right... maybe... as always.

N.O.T
31st January 2015, 20:02
Exactly a average driver making excuses for poor performances it's always the cars fault or team . I will write a blog to make me look better

And from I'm sure kubica will be back with msport by Portugal after the a style disaster in monte

Protasov is back for Sweden , what do the msport haters say about that

What A style had to do with the disaster ?

nafpaktos
31st January 2015, 20:12
And from I'm sure kubica will be back with msport by Portugal after the a style disaster in monte

the disaster was because of his wrong approach on rallying and not because of the team,i suppose you mean the problem with the brakes on his last exit but this happens and to oficcial teams,so i cannot accuse the team for something that happens.

AL14
31st January 2015, 21:04
Sorry for my ignorance but what is this blog post you are talking about? :)

EDIT: found it. Thanks anyway :)

wrc1600
31st January 2015, 21:25
I Autohebdo, I learn a bit more about Kubica plans for 2015. It's quite crazy, and to be honest, I can't see how he will succeed in rallying doing this ...



Because he spent 20+ in motorsport, good few years in top category and knows better how to do things unlike you.

N.O.T
31st January 2015, 21:30
Because he spent 20+ in motorsport, good few years in top category and knows better how to do things unlike you.

spending your time in something doesn't make you an expert (especially when you have to pay most of the time)...on the contrary spending that much time on something without any notable achievements shows lack of skills.

Fast Eddie WRC
31st January 2015, 22:08
Skoda plans to run WRC2 programme, says YLE. Planned to start from Portugal with Fabia R5 & Lappi, Kremer and Kreim ...

vino_93
31st January 2015, 22:27
sorry i dont get you,you say he rents the car he uses right now and after he will buy a new car and rent the old one(which is not his) to another driver!!!!!

Yes, it's what he will do according the article. It's not clear if he wants to buy the old Fiesta, or only rent the rented A-Style car (some teams do this in France f.e., taking car from Italy and doing the assistance on french events).

Mariusz
1st February 2015, 04:49
Let's get some facts about Kubica straight.


Apart from Lotos don't think he has many funds, he is just very rich, this is form his F1 days, I suspect him raising the full throttle from insurance after his crash.
Yes you get screwed if you pay cash to M-Sport and the team decides to witch car the money goes to...If you pay the top price for parts you suddenly are a very important customer and gets proirity treatment. And with own team you are independent and able to choose own engineer and tyre supplier, both are crucial for a good season apart from finishing the rally.
According to his website he has four sponsors; Lotos, Grupa Azoty (a huge chemical consortium), Pirelli and OMP. Yes, Pirelli is his sponsor, not just his tyre supplier. And I think this was one of the main reasons why the talks with PH-Sport failed. Kubica wanted to drive on Pirellis this year and as you could have seen the tyres allowed him to set great times on Monte. So you were wrong with the first part, but exactly right with the last part.


How can someeone be sure that a part is brand new and not just excellent rapaired-rebuilt?we are talking about msport guys.i am still a bit biased towards msport after antony's revelations in his blog.
There is no reason why M-Sport wouldn't want Kubica to succeed. The better results Fords make the more cars they sell and rent.




Originally Posted by wrc1600
Because he spent 20+ in motorsport, good few years in top category and knows better how to do things unlike you.
spending your time in something doesn't make you an expert (especially when you have to pay most of the time)...on the contrary spending that much time on something without any notable achievements shows lack of skills.
I think you should check with google about his achievements in his last 20 years in motorsport.

AndyRAC
1st February 2015, 12:51
Must be a different Robert Kubica to the one who was in F1; won the Canadian GP, won the Bandini Trophy - and was feared by Alonso & Hamilton......

N.O.T
1st February 2015, 13:04
Must be a different Robert Kubica to the one who was in F1; won the Canadian GP, won the Bandini Trophy - and was feared by Alonso & Hamilton......

Oh you are of those guys who take womens sports seriously... it is ok, i am not prejudiced against your lesser kind... it is a good thing the F1 starts soon, less people in here.

AndyRAC
1st February 2015, 13:32
No, I'm a Motorsport fan!! WRC, WEC, DTM, Super GT even F1......

"If it has wheels, and they keep score......." ;)

Ounin
1st February 2015, 13:36
I'm not F1 fan either, but in the world of lesser kind the word salary is much higher lever indeed. Robert Kubica's salary in 2009 was 4,5 million and in 2010 it was 7,5 million euros. Let alone secondary earnings like sponsors and insurance he must have got after accident. In other words Kubica is financially completely independant he has the money to pay a WRC team within a whisper. Hope he makes optimal use of this, together with his added finances of the sponsors.

Ounin
1st February 2015, 13:41
No, I'm a Motorsport fan!! WRC, WEC, DTM, Super GT even F1......

"If it has wheels, and they keep score......." ;)

Ahhh hat's Radiolemans Midweek stuff... Great but not rally fans

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KiwiWRCfan
2nd February 2015, 10:14
Ken Block has announced on FB and twitter that he will reveal his 2015 livery and plans on Feb 2nd, USA time. Entries for rally Mexico close on Feb 3rd. Could this be just a coincidence or is Ken about to announce he will enter Rally Mexico 2015

MartijnS
2nd February 2015, 10:27
Abbring will contest in 4 rounds this year.

N.O.T
2nd February 2015, 10:39
Ken Block has announced on FB and twitter that he will reveal his 2015 livery and plans on Feb 2nd, USA time. Entries for rally Mexico close on Feb 3rd. Could this be just a coincidence or is Ken about to announce he will enter Rally Mexico 2015

nobody cares about his plans... notify us when he finds a chin transplant donor.

A FONDO
2nd February 2015, 11:18
Ken Block has announced on FB and twitter that he will reveal his 2015 livery and plans on Feb 2nd, USA time. Entries for rally Mexico close on Feb 3rd. Could this be just a coincidence or is Ken about to announce he will enter Rally Mexico 2015

I don't believe he will skip it. Though I wonder why didn't show up for the Snow drift rally this weekend

dimviii
2nd February 2015, 15:38
Abbring will contest in 4 rounds this year.
have we got more info?

EightGear
2nd February 2015, 15:41
http://motorsport.hyundai.com/m/en/news/view/5686

Eli
2nd February 2015, 16:21
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117559 let's hope they bring it back

AL14
2nd February 2015, 16:34
"My position on running a WRC event on an island is well known, it's not our favourite option, but at the same time we know on a sporting level we will have a top-quality event and we can live with this."

I suspect Sardinia may not like this.

Fast Eddie WRC
2nd February 2015, 16:35
Hyundai team 2015
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B82XHbDCAAA5Iog.jpg:large

tommeke_B
2nd February 2015, 17:03
Monte Carlo will start in Valence again next year, with stages the Drome and Ardeche region. So next year, a lot of completely new stages again, at least for the WRC crews.. :)

Eli
2nd February 2015, 17:27
Monte Carlo will start in Valence again next year, with stages the Drome and Ardeche region. So next year, a lot of completely new stages again, at least for the WRC crews.. :)

source from?

tommeke_B
2nd February 2015, 18:19
source from?

https://twitter.com/francebleuDA/status/562190680643338241?s=03

Eli
2nd February 2015, 18:23
https://twitter.com/francebleuDA/status/562190680643338241?s=03
cheers