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5th November 2016, 11:49 #2891
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I personally think there is a lot happening behind the curtains - and also at Ford. An opportunity like this is very rare. There is proper marketing value here ... and it might even be cheap compared to how it would normally be.
I think Malcom Wilsons phone is ringing non-stop right now. There are 3 challenges for him.
- Can he get the budget via sponsors
- Can he get Ford involved
- Can he get Ogier
Hyundai and Toyota are not in this game. It's either Citroën or M-Sport that's gonna sign Ogier ... unless he walks away from the WRC all together.
And one last thing. I bet you that Ogier is trying to get the feel of how the press and the fans react to him possibly signing for M-Sport Ford. If there is a buzz about the idea in the whole rally community and among the fans, then that might be the decisive factor. There is a HUGE difference between being and champion .... and a LEGEND! He's a champion with VW. He will be a legend if he becomes champion with M-Sport Ford.Fan of WRC and MotoGP.
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5th November 2016, 11:50 #2892
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5th November 2016, 11:59 #2893
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5th November 2016, 12:11 #2894
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Think about Ogier for a bit, his personality, he wants to win and he is no doubt always comparing himself to Loeb. His goal has been from the start to beat Loeb's records because let's face it, except for Loeb, until now he has had no true rival. I think Ogier will pick the best car available, all other things like his respect for Wilson and bad relationship with Meeke or Citroen are secondary, even money is secondary. All that matters is where is his best chance to win more championships.
I too, as many othes have said here, would like to see an Ogier-MSport combination, as it would be a mix between an underdog team and a 4 time WDC so it would be in itself interesting but also if the team has fewer resources than the others it could be a more level playing field. It sounds nice and the chances of it happening seem to be increasing.
There's just one thing that's bothering me. What if those reports that the Fiesta has the best aero are true and it starts the year with a significant advantage? What if we get to the middle of the season and Ogier once again has a huge lead. Sure he will be in a different car but it will be the same thing again. I think the WRC needs a real fight for the championship and I'm not entirely sure we're going to get it even if Ogier goes to MSport.
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5th November 2016, 12:12 #2895
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No. Winning it in a Ford would be more speciel since they haven't won the drivers' title since Ari Vatanens 1981 title. Furthermore a lot of long-term rally fans have a special place in their heart for Ford, because they have been in the championship in almost the whole of the championships history. Most other Manufacturers' come and go depending on their marketing plans.
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5th November 2016, 12:53 #2896
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5th November 2016, 13:21 #2897
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Most likely not even Linda’s call…this one will certainly go up to Carlos Tavares, PSA’s CEO. Tavares is a notorious Petrolhead (being a Portuguese he was infected by rally virus on an early age) and he was at Renault when the Ogier/Citroen split occurred. So, he has no regrets and motorsport runs on his veins; another one that 'will do everything to make sure Ogier gets in'?
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5th November 2016, 13:28 #2898
I am pretty sure that Matton and possibly other key members in the team have a say. I doubt these things are dictatorial decisions by one person. The fact that there is was bad blood between Citroen and Ogier in 2011 and that lots of staff still remain from those times probably play into this. Lefebvre's comments probably reflect the team's view on having Ogier back pretty well.
I think we can rule Hyundai out, the rest are maybes with M-sport seemingly the most likely right now, provided Wilson can get the structures in place.
EDIT; This was my 555th post so here's a pic of a Subaru
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5th November 2016, 13:49 #2899
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5th November 2016, 14:29 #2900
Can we please get Oliver in a Yaris Rally1 for Finland please? Been a sensation to watch, really hope he takes this one.
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