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A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 08:11
Yes... Hänninen takes away 7 seconds from Sandell's lead :bounce:

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 08:11
What do you mean A.F.F. different results for PWRC ?? :confused:

dimviii
9th February 2008, 08:11
Now Hanninen 8,8 before to climb 1st in pwrc :D

ProRally
9th February 2008, 08:12
Why did Flodin did not start 3rd ?
Was he not 3rd after SSS yesterday evening ?

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 08:13
Why did Flodin did not start 3rd ?
Was he not 3rd after SSS yesterday evening ?

He started but went out. Came just now from the radio.

dimviii
9th February 2008, 08:14
Hanninen 1-2 seconds slower than official subarus....wtf :confused:

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 08:15
What do you mean A.F.F. different results for PWRC ?? :confused:

Sorry... I messed up. The setting in http://www.wrc.premiumtv.co.uk/motorsport/wrcApplet was compared to the FIRST car, when in http://www.zone.ee/wrcmasters/analyzer.php?rally=2&stage=9&results=1 it's compared to the FASTEST car.

So, I looked wrong. :)

ProRally
9th February 2008, 08:17
He started but went out. Came just now from the radio.

Kiitos AFF,
Small or big off ?
Have new Mac Notebook and still have to figure out how to get audio and video to work on this it wants to install windows mediaplayer ?

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 08:23
And now Portuguese Armindo Araujo enters in Pwrc point position ;)

PLuto
9th February 2008, 08:24
Our lovely Conrad had problems ... on road section :D

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 08:26
I've rarely seen japanese champion Toshi Arai with so much problem on a Pwrc round :s

ProRally
9th February 2008, 08:29
I've rarely seen japanese champion Toshi Arai with so much problem on a Pwrc round :s

New car, new co-driver and nearly new team...
Yes strange he struggles a bit, he did test for 100s of km in the snow in Hokkaido last month with new car...

ProRally
9th February 2008, 08:33
Flodin last 14+ min in ss9

Roy
9th February 2008, 08:40
Good morning :wave:

How is the snow? Do they cancelled some stages today? Maybe... Who got some info?

PLuto
9th February 2008, 08:43
Good morning :wave:

How is the snow? Do they cancelled some stages today? Maybe... Who got some info?

From http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?id=35: It is absolutely thaw, temperature 4 above zero, snow is losing.

PLuto
9th February 2008, 08:45
Now Hanninen 8,8 before to climb 1st in pwrc :D

SANDELL P. / AXELSSON E. (st. č. 55): It is very slippery. I had problems to find right braking point, but it is OK. I was trying not to slide in slow corners. I am trying to go as best as possible.

HÄNNINEN J. / MARKKULA M. (st. č. 52): This stage is very tricky with slow corners, where I have advantage over Patrik. Good time.

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 08:46
Mikko continues on being slower than Latvala. He is already given up or is totally lost this morning :confused:

I can understand that Latvala's lead is so huge that it's no point to try to catch him BUT Galli and henning are very near... that should motivate him to flat out.

jonkka
9th February 2008, 08:47
Mikko has either given up or can't match JML.

jonkka
9th February 2008, 08:47
Cheers AFF

Mauri A
9th February 2008, 08:48
Ketomaa:" Patrik is out, so we are back on podium"????

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 08:49
Cheers AFF

No problem jonkka :laugh:

Miika
9th February 2008, 08:49
What´s up with Mikko, with this pace Henning will catch him again.

Woodeye
9th February 2008, 08:49
Would it be possible that Mikko has some problems with the car? Otherwise it's hard for me to get it why he's so slow at the moment.

jonkka
9th February 2008, 08:49
Ketomaa:" Patrik is out, so we are back on podium"????

Patrik Flodin

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 08:50
Unbelieveble... Henning and Gigi are driving circles around Mikko this morning :confused:

Mauri A
9th February 2008, 08:52
Patrik Flodin
Oh, too many Patriks in this rally!

Viking
9th February 2008, 08:52
Good morning! I was a litle bit late out of service today :)
what happen to Østberg, off road?
Mikkelsen fastest Ford stage 9 makes me happy!

PLuto
9th February 2008, 08:54
Good morning! I was a litle bit late out of service today :)
what happen to Østberg, off road?
Mikkelsen fastest Ford stage 9 makes me happy!

According to http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?id=35:

ÖSTBERG M. / UNNERUD O.-K. (st. č. 19): Stage was lot gravel, but after opne crest there was much snow, we hit snowbank and made a puncture, so we were changing tyre.

jonkka
9th February 2008, 08:55
Galli?

KKS
9th February 2008, 08:55
Problems for Gigi?

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 08:56
Ketomaa:" Patrik is out, so we are back on podium"????



You almost made me caught a heart attack :laugh:


Yes you confused with Flodin... ;)

Roy
9th February 2008, 08:57
From http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?id=35: It is absolutely thaw, temperature 4 above zero, snow is losing.

Hmmm. cancelled stages maybe. Or not?

What is with Mikko? This is real too slow for a works driver.

KKS
9th February 2008, 08:57
no... Gigi at finish.... He drive so quickly so GPS don't find them :D

Finni
9th February 2008, 08:58
If someone didn't yet understood in last ss road got gugely better for backrunners.

Finni
9th February 2008, 09:00
no... Gigi at finish.... He drive so quickly so GPS don't find them :D

I was sure tha he was out, huh.

PLuto
9th February 2008, 09:01
Hmmm. cancelled stages maybe. Or not?

What is with Mikko? This is real too slow for a works driver.

Cancelled only for swedish championship.

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 09:02
I was sure tha he was out, huh.



And you wished it because you feared for Mikko ?? :p :

dimviii
9th February 2008, 09:04
Henning said
We are back after a puncture and we want back to 3rd position."

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 09:05
Mikkelsen ?? :confused:


EDIT: no problem, he's coming ;)

Scrap_Iron
9th February 2008, 09:07
:s mokin:
Mikkelsen ?? :confused:


EDIT: no problem, he's coming ;)

dimviii
9th February 2008, 09:07
and coming fast!!

miksu
9th February 2008, 09:07
Mikkelsen ?? :confused:


EDIT: no problem, he's coming ;)

and fast...

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 09:09
Does Al-Quassimy know that you don't have to stop on every stage in WRC ?

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 09:10
Mmmmh...big problem for Qassimi(+2m24 on split 2) :mark:

dimviii
9th February 2008, 09:10
sordo faster than everyone!

Viking
9th February 2008, 09:11
To bad Mikkelsen had turbo problems yesterday.
Gardemeister and Wilson watch out! :D

jonkka
9th February 2008, 09:11
When Mikkelsen goes past Gardemeister, there are six fords in top-7

Miika
9th February 2008, 09:11
Does Al-Quassimy know that you don't have to stop on every stage in WRC ?

Perhaps he´s taking pictures and buying souvenirs while he is at it.

Finni
9th February 2008, 09:12
And you wished it because you feared for Mikko ?? :p :

No, I am not such type of Mikko-fan. I am very happy that Gigi is still in the game bacause I hope he gets nice launch to the season as a whole.

ProRally
9th February 2008, 09:14
Perhaps he´s taking pictures and buying souvenirs while he is at it.

Carefull Sheihk Al Qasimi CAN buy Sweden if he wants...

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 09:15
And that Sandell's GPS out of order !! Grrr !!! :mad:

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 09:16
Carefull Sheihk Al Qasimi CAN buy Sweden if he wants...

Point taken. I have to be carefull if he indeed makes a bid for Sweden. While he is at it, he could buy Åland too :up: :D

PLuto
9th February 2008, 09:17
Does Al-Quassimy know that you don't have to stop on every stage in WRC ?

Dont remember, than two minutes more on stage means, that spectators can see his sponsors two minutes longer! :s mokin:

Scrap_Iron
9th February 2008, 09:17
To bad Mikkelsen had turbo problems yesterday.
Gardemeister and Wilson watch out! :D
He sounds really happy with the way he and the car are going today :s mokin: :p

Viking
9th February 2008, 09:18
Carefull Sheihk Al Qasimi CAN buy Sweden if he wants...

Lol :D why should anyone want to buy Sweden ;)

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 09:18
Dont remember, than two minutes more on stage means, that spectators can see his sponsors two minutes longer! :s mokin:

;) :up:

jonkka
9th February 2008, 09:19
Carefull Sheihk Al Qasimi CAN buy Sweden if he wants...

Could, not can. I won't sell.

iJones
9th February 2008, 09:20
Lol :D why should anyone want to buy Sweden ;)

They have some beautiful women there. :kiss:

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 09:21
What do you know... Sordo might end up being on points after all. With that speed he'll catch Garde.

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 09:22
They have some beautiful women there. :kiss:

And great army packed full with fierce killing machines.





































:D

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 09:24
Hänninen second slower than Sandell. 10.1 between them.

ProRally
9th February 2008, 09:26
Lol :D why should anyone want to buy Sweden ;)

If you build the biggest indoor Ski/Snowboard hall in the world in the desert in UAE, why would Abu Dhabi not take it a step further and just buy Sweden...
Oops , first to have to have snow ....

iJones
9th February 2008, 09:28
And great army packed full with fierce killing machines. :D
http://files.myopera.com/iJones/files/schater_orig.gif That was not very nice now was it ?

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 09:28
Andreas Aigner ?? :confused:


EDIT: GPS was late to give his split time :s

ProRally
9th February 2008, 09:33
Andreas Aigner ?? :confused:

Stopped on stage

ProRally
9th February 2008, 09:33
Looks like a though day in PWRC

Ville
9th February 2008, 09:37
Yeah he wasnt having a good time...
Did anyone notice that before the roll, Seb was talking to Elena? I know seb sometimes makes comments on the notes to improve them but he spoke at least 4 times. I dont speak french, so was he complaining about the notes or about the car, or what??

Has anyone translated that yet?

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 09:43
SS11 running :)

Fly
9th February 2008, 09:45
Has anyone translated that yet?

Complaining about the notes! I can't remember Loeb driving so hesitatingly.

ProRally
9th February 2008, 09:47
What happend to Svedlund ?

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 09:50
Mikko is finally stepping on it. Faster than Latvala.


Or, Latvala is just taking it easy...

jonkka
9th February 2008, 09:54
Or Mikko's tyres are in better shape

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 09:56
Mikko is clearly faster than Henning and Galli. I think he is controlling and minimizing risks.

Woodeye
9th February 2008, 09:56
Mikko is finally also faster than Galli and Henning.

pettersolberg29
9th February 2008, 09:58
What's happened to Petter
+13 at 2nd split

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 09:58
And Solberg P. can't match the Focus pace again :mark:

Viking
9th February 2008, 09:59
SS12 cancelled :down:

dimviii
9th February 2008, 09:59
Henning is going to gain again 3rd position

ProRally
9th February 2008, 10:00
SS12 cancelled :down:

Oho, it is starting....

consti
9th February 2008, 10:00
What's happened to Petter
+13 at 2nd split

it's sad but this is his nowadays pace...

pettersolberg29
9th February 2008, 10:01
SS12 cancelled :down:

Why?

Is it too gravelly?

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 10:01
SS12 cancelled :down:



Marvellous :(

Woodeye
9th February 2008, 10:01
SS12 cancelled :down:

Why?

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 10:02
Henning stopped on stage :eek:

Simmi
9th February 2008, 10:02
Henning off the road! Shame

KKS
9th February 2008, 10:02
Hennnninggg noooooooooooooooooooo

Viking
9th February 2008, 10:03
Henning ???

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 10:03
And Garde stopped too.

dimviii
9th February 2008, 10:03
galli no split??

jonkka
9th February 2008, 10:03
There goes Ford 1-2-3-4

scooby girl
9th February 2008, 10:03
henning stopped in stage

pettersolberg29
9th February 2008, 10:03
Henning off!

dimviii
9th February 2008, 10:04
ok for gigi!!!!!!!!!!!

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 10:04
Wilson will end on podium if this happens too often(the different retitements in front) :eek:

pettersolberg29
9th February 2008, 10:04
Garde off!

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 10:05
And Garde stopped too.



:confused:

consti
9th February 2008, 10:05
now it's getting evil, garde stopped too

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 10:05
And whoopsie daizie... Sordo is on points :eek:

dimviii
9th February 2008, 10:06
Henning was going dangerous fast between splits 3 and 4
if you see he had gained 4 seconds from the fastest in this stage :eek:

Woodeye
9th February 2008, 10:06
now the top three should change into safe mode..

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 10:07
The Pwrc in the top8 could be possible after that SS11 :eek: :eek:

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 10:08
Henning was going dangerous fast between splits 3 and 4
if you see he had gained 4 seconds from the fastest in this stage :eek:


Or do you mean the first?

Mauri A
9th February 2008, 10:08
Garde got a split.

Miika
9th February 2008, 10:09
now the top three should change into safe mode..

Now it´s definitely the time for that, no need to compete each other out in those conditions that they will have in the afternoon stages, if they can even run them.

dimviii
9th February 2008, 10:10
Tom which pwrc crew you think is going to be in top8? :p

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 10:11
now the top three should change into safe mode..

Apparently Latvala and Mikko already changed to safemode.

dimviii
9th February 2008, 10:11
@AFF
sorry mate my english are not so good!

Mauri A
9th February 2008, 10:11
Now it´s definitely the time for that, no need to compete each other out in those conditions that they will have in the afternoon stages, if they can even run them.
So, it´s time to concentrate to fight in PWRC.

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 10:13
@AFF
sorry mate my english are not so good!

No problem. Your english par mine easily :up:

kaarlov
9th February 2008, 10:13
now the top three should change into safe mode..

Galli does not have 'safe' in his vocabulary.

Viking
9th February 2008, 10:14
Why?

Is it too gravelly?

Road to bad, 13 and 14 should be ok says Klarin.

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 10:15
Tom which pwrc crew you think is going to be in top8? :p



Do I need to tell ??? :D

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 10:15
So it's possible that 12 and 13 will be cancelled ?

consti
9th February 2008, 10:16
Galli does not have 'safe' in his vocabulary.

from 2006 on he has, believe me...

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 10:16
Whoops. Ostberg run out of tyres :s

Mauri A
9th February 2008, 10:17
Galli does not have 'safe' in his vocabulary.
Galli:"Mikko is very strong, I won´t push him"
BTW, thanks again for the comments Czech friends!

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 10:19
Galli:"Mikko is very strong, I won´t push him"

In other words: "Malcom is very powerfull so i do as he told me to"

consti
9th February 2008, 10:23
what happened to aigner? lost quite an amount of time but now he i starting in the next stage?

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 10:26
Any news about Sandell ?? :confused:

Finni
9th February 2008, 10:27
In other words: "Malcom is very powerfull so i do as he told me to"

That comment was obviously related to Mikko's strong stage time.

Mauri A
9th February 2008, 10:29
Any news about Sandell ?? :confused:
Be careful with your heart Tom!!

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 10:29
Sandell lost 6s to Hänninen...4s between them now :mark:

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 10:29
Any news about Sandell ?? :confused:

Finished the stage 6 seconds slower than Hänninen.

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 10:31
That comment was obviously related to Mikko's strong stage time.

None of them (Latvala, Hirvonen, Galli) push anymore.

CABAIO E'LONA
9th February 2008, 10:32
stage cancelled?

Mauri A
9th February 2008, 10:33
None of them (Latvala, Hirvonen, Galli) push anymore.
Fast times however.

miksu
9th February 2008, 10:33
So what happened to Garde? did he blow a tyre or go off?



oh, so he went off...

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 10:33
Jätte bra, nu jag kan ta min dagen sova.

See, fluent swedish :D

Cya on second loop.

Finni
9th February 2008, 10:35
None of them (Latvala, Hirvonen, Galli) push anymore.

Yes, not anymore but in the last ss at least Hirvonen and Henning were pushing.. I think that Gigi's comment was partially reaction to Mikko's stage time in Vargasen.

rp
9th February 2008, 10:37
Unfortunately for Gardemeister, there was no professional spectators (Finnish) at all. They do not understand to push car back to the road and it took so much time... Still at least one WRC point is possible for him...

Mauri A
9th February 2008, 10:42
Jätte bra, nu jag kan ta min dagen sova.

See, fluent swedish :D

Cya on second loop.

Du sova, jag åka snöslunga.
De va flytande on sjungande svenska av mig!

ste898
9th February 2008, 10:44
Thats is a costly and uneeded mistake by Henning when he was in a perfect position.......is he scoring for Stobarts this weekend or Munchi's

consti
9th February 2008, 10:47
Thats is a costly and uneeded mistake by Henning when he was in a perfect position.......is he scoring for Stobarts this weekend or Munchi's

for stobart munchi's hasn't entered a round up to now

iJones
9th February 2008, 10:49
Mattid -->

ste898
9th February 2008, 10:53
Well if I was Stobarts I would not be very happy at him throwing away a top points finish......very stupid!!!

consti
9th February 2008, 10:56
Well if I was Stobarts I would not be very happy at him throwing away a top points finish......very stupid!!!
but for munchi's it wouldn't matter? ;)

Tomi
9th February 2008, 10:58
jag åka snöslunga.
De va flytande on sjungande svenska av mig!

var någonstans i Finland finns det ny snö?

Viking
9th February 2008, 11:01
Well if I was Stobarts I would not be very happy at him throwing away a top points finish......very stupid!!!

I guess he was gunning for 3`rd before freeze positions order.

Mauri A
9th February 2008, 11:06
var någonstans i Finland finns det ny snö?
Här uppe in Rovaniemi!

ste898
9th February 2008, 11:12
but for munchi's it wouldn't matter? ;)

.......No because they rarely score points anyway, but Stobarts are very serious about 3rd in Manufacturers

Tomi
9th February 2008, 11:15
Här uppe in Rovaniemi!

Ahaa ok, här i södern är bara slask, jävligt.

Corny
9th February 2008, 11:24
Sordo is not doing too bad too, +1:24 without his penalty.. We've seen him doing worse

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 11:48
What about SS12 ??? Officially cancelled ?? :confused:

Mirek
9th February 2008, 11:50
Yes, it was cancelled.

ste898
9th February 2008, 11:54
]Yes, it was cancelled.


What reason was it cancelled?

Karbonyl
9th February 2008, 12:03
I guess it became a gravel rally, so that's why...

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 12:10
OK, so next stage(SS13) at 02.13pm... ;)

DonJippo
9th February 2008, 12:27
You noticed the Lotus add on home page of wrc.com? Says "Current time in Sweden" having time on the clock which definitely is not current time in Sweden... :crazy:

Hey, I noticed that the time has been corrected :eek: :up:

Iskald
9th February 2008, 12:47
I guess it became a gravel rally, so that's why...

Interesting to see what happens to 110 teams due to compete in the Swedish Rally Championship today and tomorrow. My guess is that they won`t drive much if anything at all, as SS12 is cancelled with only the WRC-teams through one time. Conditions can`t be very much better on SS13 and 14 and the roads will be terrible with 160-170 cars trough this afternoon. One of the norwegian Fiesta-drivers has already reported big disappointment on a norwegian forum.

The organisers had a choice to drop the Swedish Championship 10 days ago, but still kept it in spite of weather forecast and conditions.

Finni
9th February 2008, 12:53
The organisers had a choice to drop the Swedish Championship 10 days ago, but still kept it in spite of weather forecast and conditions.

It's time to get proper winter rally in the calendar. When was the last time when rally of sweden was driven with proper snow benches?

Tomi
9th February 2008, 12:59
Interesting to see what happens to 110 teams due to compete in the Swedish Rally Championship today and tomorrow. My guess is that they won`t drive much if anything at all, as SS12 is cancelled with only the WRC-teams through one time. Conditions can`t be very much better on SS13 and 14 and the roads will be terrible with 160-170 cars trough this afternoon. One of the norwegian Fiesta-drivers has already reported big disappointment on a norwegian forum.

The organisers had a choice to drop the Swedish Championship 10 days ago, but still kept it in spite of weather forecast and conditions.

swedish championship is cancelled.

Mauri A
9th February 2008, 13:05
It's time to get proper winter rally in the calendar. When was the last time when rally of sweden was driven with proper snow benches?
How about Arctic Lapland Rally? Sometimes we had to cancel stages because of too much snow, but nowadays there are better snow-ploughs!

iJones
9th February 2008, 13:09
How about Arctic Lapland Rally?
Great idea! And now that they are not going to have 1000 lakes (erm, NORF, sorry) in the calendar every year we could have Arctic Lapland on odd years and 1000 lakes on even years. Or something like that. :cool:

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 13:13
SS13 soon, or also cancelled ?? :confused:

Viking
9th February 2008, 13:13
when stages are cancelled will the "superrally"-drivers get the +5 min penelty?

Isthmus
9th February 2008, 13:17
when stages are cancelled will the "superrally"-drivers get the +5 min penelty?

Why should they ?

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 13:18
when stages are cancelled will the "superrally"-drivers get the +5 min penelty?



It was exactly the question I asked me about Henning's case :confused:

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 13:18
SS13 running !! Latvala is on the start :D

CABAIO E'LONA
9th February 2008, 13:23
GO Latvala!!!

jonkka
9th February 2008, 13:24
??

Iskald
9th February 2008, 13:24
swedish championship is cancelled.

An that is a real scandal. 110 teams has come to Karlstad and have prepared to drive two championship round. Each team has already used lots of money on their preparations, travel and accomodation. And for what...?

You don`t need to go to Lapland to find proper winter in Norway btw. I was skiing yesterday, 25 kms from Oslo. Snowdepth was about 1 metre...

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 13:25
Engine problem and retirement for Loeb before SS13 !!! :s

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 13:26
Galli fastest on split 1... :)

PLuto
9th February 2008, 13:27
when stages are cancelled will the "superrally"-drivers get the +5 min penelty?

No, without penalty. With previous superally rules, there were problem, when first driver crashed and stage was cancelled. There were no finish time, so no superally penalty...

DonJippo
9th February 2008, 13:28
You don`t need to go to Lapland to find proper winter in Norway btw. I was skiing yesterday, 25 kms from Oslo. Snowdepth was about 1 metre...

Maybe Swedes should move their championship series to Norway then ;)

jonkka
9th February 2008, 13:29
I was skiing yesterday, 25 kms from Oslo. Snowdepth was about 1 metre...

Skiing? I thought that Norway was rich country. Do you export all oil and can't afford to drive?

jonkka
9th February 2008, 13:30
Engine problem and retirement for Loeb before SS13 !!! :s

Again? Man who previously never retired has now done it twice on one rally... :eek:

DonJippo
9th February 2008, 13:30
Engine problem and retirement for Loeb before SS13 !!! :s

Hmmm...have a feeling I've seen this before...yes in Japan last year.... :dozey:

DonJippo
9th February 2008, 13:33
Mikko really pissed about the conditions they have to drive...

Wim_Impreza
9th February 2008, 13:34
Why is Loeb so lucky that he has a mechanical problem when he is so far in the standings? This was already in Japan last year, too. When he is in the points, he has never a mechanical problem...

Mauri A
9th February 2008, 13:35
You don`t need to go to Lapland to find proper winter in Norway btw. I was skiing yesterday, 25 kms from Oslo. Snowdepth was about 1 metre...
But can you organize a WRC rally without going to bankcrupty?

PLuto
9th February 2008, 13:36
Again? Man who previously never retired has now done it twice on one rally... :eek:

Have you read his quotes after stages? He doesnt want to continue...

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 13:36
Atkinson losing much toward the penultimate split :mark:

Zico
9th February 2008, 13:38
Why is Loeb so lucky that he has a mechanical problem when he is so far in the standings? This was already in Japan last year, too. When he is in the points, he has never a mechanical problem...

Maybe something to do with a fresh engine for the next rally?

Viking
9th February 2008, 13:42
But can you organize a WRC rally without going to bankcrupty?

Lol :D no, we can only afford it every 2 years now!

Mauri A
9th February 2008, 13:44
It looks like the Swedish onganizers are closing the standard of their colleagues in Monte Carlo.

Isthmus
9th February 2008, 13:44
Why is Loeb so lucky that he has a mechanical problem when he is so far in the standings? This was already in Japan last year, too. When he is in the points, he has never a mechanical problem...

Fu***** sh**! Even when he rolls and get over 20min, out of points, and Ford gets 1-2-3-etc cars wich suddenly gets the rallye competitive and interesting(!..with Loeb´s on, its never interesting), and then he get more technical problems, there´s only lucky with him. :rolleyes:

I know, i know...its my problem to keep reading this forum. :dozey:

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 13:44
No GPS for Qassimi neither :mark:

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 13:45
In fact Qassimi lost almost 3 minutes on split 1 !!! :s

Simmi
9th February 2008, 13:46
Sounds like an interesting spot at the end of SS13 with the tarmac section at the end. Would be interesting to see a bit of footage from that area.

Finni
9th February 2008, 13:47
Again? Man who previously never retired has now done it twice on one rally... :eek:

That man got his car in the ditch four times during last year.

I think that nowadays Loeb is driving with more risks than in his eraly days. We might see few major error from him every year but his reputation as a man "who never retired" will obviously stay.

Madeira
9th February 2008, 13:48
Ostberg:
"I went off the road, when I got on the tarmac, I think everyone went off at that point."

Viking
9th February 2008, 13:49
Mikkelsen shaves some more seconds of Wilson :)

Madeira
9th February 2008, 13:52
Let me see if Armindo Araújo will be able to catch T Arai for the PWRC

Langdale Forest
9th February 2008, 13:52
Is Ostberg in a 2006 Subaru?

DonJippo
9th February 2008, 13:53
Sounds like an interesting spot at the end of SS13 with the tarmac section at the end. Would be interesting to see a bit of footage from that area.

Driver's for sure don't find it intresting, it's plain stupid to drive on tarmac with tyres they have now.

DonJippo
9th February 2008, 13:53
Is Ostberg in a 2006 Subaru?

2007 I believe.

Langdale Forest
9th February 2008, 13:54
Sordo fastest on atge 13.

PLuto
9th February 2008, 13:55
In fact Qassimi lost almost 3 minutes on split 1 !!! :s

500m after start he was out :D

PLuto
9th February 2008, 13:56
2007 I believe.

Yes, it is ex-factory S12B

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 13:59
Sandell increases a little bit more his gap with Hänninen(by about 1s) :p :

Simmi
9th February 2008, 13:59
Sordo showing some good pace today, but we still cant say he is fast on snow.

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 14:03
Sordo showing some good pace today, but we still cant say he is fast on snow.

I think Sordo has driven brilliantly. He hasn't give up, kept on decent pace all the time and learnt as much as possible. Now it's paying off and he is on drivers points :up:

Tomi
9th February 2008, 14:03
yes, sordos driving looks good when the front guys drives with the hands in their pockets.

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 14:04
Sandell and Hänninen are really fighting :up:

Madeira
9th February 2008, 14:04
Sandell increases a little bit more his gap with Hänninen(by about 1s) :p :

For now this is the great batlle of rally. A Big pressure inside of both cars with too bad conditions on the road....

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 14:05
yes, sordos driving looks good when the front guys drives with the hands in their pockets.

I don't think he has to go any faster, he just has to finish.

tannat
9th February 2008, 14:09
A favor: could you guys save me a thread search and let me know what happened with Gardemeister? Slipped from 7th to 10th.. :(

Hopefully not the head gasket.

DonJippo
9th February 2008, 14:10
I think Sordo has driven brilliantly. He hasn't give up, kept on decent pace all the time and learnt as much as possible. Now it's paying off and he is on drivers points :up:

He has been driving on his own and thanks to other's retirement he is on the points, don't see any brilliance in that unles you give the same credits to everyone else who will finish this event ;)

DonJippo
9th February 2008, 14:11
A favor: could you guys save me a thread search and let me know what happened with Gardemeister? Slipped from 7th to 10th.. :(

Hopefully not the head gasket.

Stucked to snow bank and spectators didn't know how to push the car back to road untill co-driver went out to explain... :dozey:

I think there should be some kind of spectator licence needed before you can go to stages :D

tannat
9th February 2008, 14:13
Stucked to snow bank and spectators didn't know how to push the car back to road untill co-driver went out to explain... :dozey:


<SIGH>

Cheers, Donjippo :up:

ProRally
9th February 2008, 14:13
When do we pass the 2/3 part so they can cancel the snow disaster ?

Madeira
9th February 2008, 14:14
Let me see if Armindo Araújo will be able to catch T Arai for the PWRC


1,9 s less than Arai, It could be better but that's ok.

Sorry guys, but I have to say that Bernardo Sousa, the very young driver from Madeira island is doing a really decent job in Sweden, very impressive. As you know we have not snow or gravel roads here. A big talent I'm sure...

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 14:18
He has been driving on his own and thanks to other's retirement he is on the points, don't see any brilliance in that unles you give the same credits to everyone else who will finish this event ;)

You know how hard rallying can be. Blimey, you can even have an off on road section.

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 14:19
In what shape will be tomorrow's six last stages of the rally ??? :s

PLuto
9th February 2008, 14:24
In what shape will be tomorrow's six last stages of the rally ??? :s

Here is map: http://forum.autosport.cz/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=21

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 14:25
Start of SS14 last stage of the day !! :bounce:

Tomi
9th February 2008, 14:26
In what shape will be tomorrow's six last stages of the rally ??? :s

the swedish guys in the rallyradio did say there would be cold next night, if that is the case they can drive tomorrow hopefully.

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 14:27
Not bad for a first outing in WRC !!! Frédéric Sauvan is 11th of GrN after SS13(23rd overall) :D

MJW
9th February 2008, 14:29
Does anyone know what happened to Eyvind Brynildsen on day1 ?

kleisj
9th February 2008, 14:29
Thankfully i just made to see online the splits 4 the last stage!
Bad luck for Henning as I saw. What happened? He had an off and retired completely?
Why fist car on the road is Latvala ? Rule changed?

Wim_Impreza
9th February 2008, 14:31
Not bad for a first outing in WRC !!! Frédéric Sauvan is 11th of GrN after SS13(23rd overall) :D

First outing? He did the Monte-Carlo too, but it is his first time in Sweden.

Mirek
9th February 2008, 14:32
kleisj: Henning went off. Yes, rulles changed since start of 2008 season.

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 14:32
Hirvonen ?? GPS ?? :confused:

jonkka
9th February 2008, 14:32
Mikko missing a split

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 14:32
Hopefully just a gps problem for Mikko....

jonkka
9th February 2008, 14:37
Pheeew

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 14:37
Yes only GPS finally... ;)

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 14:37
huh......

rp
9th February 2008, 14:37
Does anyone know what happened to Eyvind Brynildsen on day1 ?

Eyvind said in the ralliradio that they ran out of fuel...

Jaanus
9th February 2008, 14:38
Does anyone know what happened to Eyvind Brynildsen on day1 ?

He ran out of fuel after he was given too little fuel in the refueling zone.

kleisj
9th February 2008, 14:39
Mikko finished faster than Latvala

ProRally
9th February 2008, 14:40
He ran out of fuel after he was given too little fuel in the refueling zone.

How is that possible ? If you tell they guys 53 liter , they pump 53 liter...

N.O.T
9th February 2008, 14:41
what was the reason Loeb retired? boredom?

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 14:43
what was the reason Loeb retired? boredom?

In the end, yep.

Officially another mechanical failure.

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 14:47
Mikkelsen might pass Wilson on this stage. If not, he'll be very near him for tomorrow.

kleisj
9th February 2008, 14:48
Why ss12 was cancelled?

ste898
9th February 2008, 14:50
On SWRT times are on for SS12 so dont know whats happenning

ste898
9th February 2008, 14:50
yes, sordos driving looks good when the front guys drives with the hands in their pockets.

What rubbish.....the drivers in front are using their brains to finish the event!!!

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 14:51
Sandell and Hänninen are ready for the leg's final fight... ;)

If they still are tight, tomorrow will be a big sprint in the head PWRC :D

dimviii
9th February 2008, 14:51
@kleisj

no snow at all. last 2 km in asphalt :eek:

Viking
9th February 2008, 14:51
Mikkelsen might pass Wilson on this stage. If not, he'll be very near him for tomorrow.

Maybe better to stay a few seconds behind, controlling it tomorrow.

DonJippo
9th February 2008, 14:55
When do we pass the 2/3 part so they can cancel the snow disaster ?

Tomorrow after first stage.

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 14:56
Sandell +2m54 on split 1 !!! :eek: ;(

DonJippo
9th February 2008, 14:56
What rubbish.....the drivers in front are using their brains to finish the event!!!

Hands in the pocket means the same.

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 14:58
Sandell +2m54 on split 1 !!! :eek: ;(

What??

Shame. It's Hänninen then Ketomaa in PWRC.

What do you know, double lead in both series ;)

MJW
9th February 2008, 14:58
Sandell and Hänninen are ready for the leg's final fight... ;)

If they still are tight, tomorrow will be a big sprint in the head PWRC :D
But Sandell is +2.57 slower on first split of stage 14.

PLuto
9th February 2008, 14:58
Why ss12 was cancelled?

Bad conditions on road. Look here, you will find answers to your questions...: http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?id=35

dimviii
9th February 2008, 14:58
as 2/3 of rally is almost completed..
mates which one driver is going to win in pwrc at sweden?
becareful, not who you want to win, but who has more possibilities to win. :D

everybody can answer except Tom206 :p :

i think is Hanninen :s mokin:

MJW
9th February 2008, 14:58
and +3mins 10 seconds on 2nd slpit

rp
9th February 2008, 15:00
Hirvonen scored his first SS win in this event. After the SS 14 situation in the battle Latvala vs Hirvonen 11-2...

Mirek
9th February 2008, 15:00
Al Quassimi won Colin's crest with 36 meters...

Tom206wrc
9th February 2008, 15:01
Off or puncture for Sandell(he doesn't lose too much on the following split) ?? :(

dimviii
9th February 2008, 15:01
shame for Sandel :(
very good driving from him.

A.F.F.
9th February 2008, 15:03
It was a nice battle between Sandell vs. Hänninen.

But everybody got to see how fast Sandell and 207 S2000 can be :up:

kleisj
9th February 2008, 15:03
Sandell in trouble!!!

Tomi
9th February 2008, 15:03
is sandell driving the ful PWRC ?

N.O.T
9th February 2008, 15:04
Well i doubt Loeb could do anything to win this even if he competed....his only chance would be to keep the pressure on the young ones and force a mistake out of them, probably fell in his own trap.

Amazing victory for Latvala that only a puncture or mechanical will stop him. Hirvonen didn't persuade that can do something to stop Loeb this year.

In Finland things will be interesting once more :)

DonJippo
9th February 2008, 15:04
:rotflmao: I hope they will put subtitles to this one for non finns...Tomi Tuominen explaining how the spectators were pushing their car to four different directions, at the same time, when Toni got stuck to snowbank... :crazy:

http://nettitv.mtv3.fi/id/122689.wmv

Mirek
9th February 2008, 15:04
is sandell driving the ful PWRC ?

Yes.

Now he is faster than Hanninen on the other splits, the car is obviously undamaged.