The official Uddeholm Swedish Rally Thread

[PLuto]

Sandell made a driver mistake :(

[A.F.F.]

:rotflmao: I hope they will put subtitles to this one for non finns...Tomi Tuominen explaining how the spectators were pushing their car to four different directions, at the same time, when Toni got stuck to snowbank... :crazy:

http://nettitv.mtv3.fi/id/122689.wmv

:rotflmao:

No onhan se totta vittu. Neitejä.

[Tom206wrc]

A podium can be possible for Sandell tomorrow, as he's 4th of Pwrc less than 20s behind Prokop... :rolleyes:

[RS]

I must say I am rather disappointed with how Sweden has turned out.

It is normally one of the rallies with a strong entry list and close battles, but all the gaps in the top 8 are huge now, Wilslow is well in the points, Gardemeister is 9 minutes off the pace and still in the points and there is still a day to go.

[dimviii]

i ve seen a video from safari rally 80s ? and a nissan 240rs was in a ditch with mud
the car was full of people round the car, and trying to push it from 4 different directions, big fun to watch it!!
not big fun if you drove that nissan also!

[Tom206wrc]

Sandell made a driver mistake :(




Where did you see that ??? Isn't it a puncture ??? :confused:

[jiipee64]

"hope they will put subtitles to this one for non finns...Tomi Tuominen explaining how the spectators were pushing their car to four different directions, at the same time, when Toni got stuck to snowbank..."

THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST EVER!!!!!!!

[jonkka]

Tuominen should decide whether he is a co-driver or TV-commentator.

[DonJippo]

Tuominen should decide whether he is a co-driver or TV-commentator.

Tuominen is commenting co-driver :crazy: What's wrong with that :p

[Mirek]

Tom: Sandell made a spin into a snowbank. Anyway even if he pass Martin Prokop tomorrow I'm sure Martin will be satisfied.

[DonJippo]

Where did you see that ??? Isn't it a puncture ??? :confused:

He said on rally radio.

[dimviii]

@Tom206

HÄNNINEN J. / MARKKULA M. (st. č. 52) We are leading now, it was good day. Sandell stuck in the snowbank about two kilometers from the start.

from
http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?id=35

[rv]

what Marcus is saying in this vid?

http://nettitv.mtv3.fi/maksuttomat/index.shtml/maksuttomat/ralli/ralli?122669#122669

[Tom206wrc]

]Tom: Sandell made a spin into a snowbank. Anyway even if he pass Martin Prokop tomorrow I'm sure Martin will be satisfied.



OK thanks...


Gaps were so small, there should be quite expectation one of the drivers would make a mistake in the end, and it was Sandell who is debuting in Pwrc... :mark:

[ste898]

I must say I am rather disappointed with how Sweden has turned out.

It is normally one of the rallies with a strong entry list and close battles, but all the gaps in the top 8 are huge now, Wilslow is well in the points, Gardemeister is 9 minutes off the pace and still in the points and there is still a day to go.

This event is like a breath of fresh air we have someone new leading and also a new name and car with Sandell in the 207 S2000 so I would say the opposite.

[Tom206wrc]

And please also keep us informed if one or several stages tomorrow are cancelled :confused:

[DonJippo]

what Marcus is saying in this vid?

In short: Was amazed about JML's pace and joked about why couldn't Sebastien have similar difficulties while he was still driving. When asked if he would like to be back on stages in Sweden said that no as the conditions are what they are but in case of proper winter conditions his feelings could be different.

[Wim_Impreza]

I must say I am rather disappointed with how Sweden has turned out.

It is normally one of the rallies with a strong entry list and close battles, but all the gaps in the top 8 are huge now, Wilslow is well in the points, Gardemeister is 9 minutes off the pace and still in the points and there is still a day to go.

The entry list was not good, there were not so much WRC's as other years.

[rv]

In short: Was amazed about JML's pace and joked about why couldn't Sebastien have similar difficulties while he was still driving. When asked if he would like to be back on stages in Sweden said that no as the conditions are what they are but in case of proper winter conditions his feelings could be different.

Txs,DonJippo :)

[janvanvurpa]

And great army packed full with fierce killing machines.





:D

Riiiiiktig Ödemark Kriiiiiiiiigaaare, ti hi, eh Koskela?

[RS]

This event is like a breath of fresh air we have someone new leading and also a new name and car with Sandell in the 207 S2000 so I would say the opposite.

Well, yes, Latvala and Sandell/207 have been the exceptions, it's just the rest of them in between, as someone else said doesn't quite compare to the entry lists of previous years.

[alleskids]

Sorry if I missed in somewere in this tread, but why did Loeb not start anymore afer SS11?

[DonJippo]

Sorry if I missed in somewere in this tread, but why did Loeb not start anymore afer SS11?

LOEB S. / ELENA D. (st. č. 1) Odstupuje v servisu po RZ 11 kvůli poruše motoru. / Retired in service after SS 11 due to engine problem.

http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?rz=668&filtr=

[PLuto]

Where did you see that ??? Isn't it a puncture ??? :confused:

Tom, you are not reading my quotes at results? :arrows:

[alleskids]

So Loeb can start the next rally without a penalty for his new engine?

[Shrike]

So Loeb can start the next rally without a penalty for his new engine?

I am wondering the same thing. Will he get the 5 minute pentalty for next round like Sordo did for this one?

[Mirek]

Definitely not. First, he must have finished rally and moreover I think that this rule is for pairs of events, in this case Monte and Sweden.

[urabus-denoS2000]

He will not get 5 minutes for the next rally because he retired and he can freely change the engine.
At the Mnte Carlo rally Sordo changed the engine and finished.

[alleskids]

The pairing of the engine is not exactly 2 and 2 anymore like in 2007 I have heard some were on the forum (Sordo's 5 minute penalty tread). Only that a manufacturer may use only a limited number of engines, so 1 engine must be used for more than 2 rallies. So in the 3rd connected rally Loeb may use a new engine.

[PLuto]

He will not get 5 minutes for the next rally because he retired and he can freely change the engine.
At the Mnte Carlo rally Sordo changed the engine and finished.

At Monte Sordo finished and then change engine. During race you cannot change engine.

[Viktory]

Some pictures from Friday, Bjälverud 1 & 2:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/ViktorL/Svenskarallyt2008019-3.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/ViktorL/Svenskarallyt2008009-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/ViktorL/Svenskarallyt2008041-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/ViktorL/Svenskarallyt2008054.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/ViktorL/Svenskarallyt2008060-1.jpg

[Viktory]

Some pictures from today, Hagfors 1 & 2:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/ViktorL/Svenskarallyt2008004.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/ViktorL/Svenskarallyt2008010-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/ViktorL/Svenskarallyt2008024-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/ViktorL/Svenskarallyt2008031-2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/ViktorL/Svenskarallyt2008042-2.jpg


More can be found here: http://s4.photobucket.com/albums/y140/ViktorL/

[Iskald]

But can you organize a WRC rally without going to bankcrupty?

Good question, Mauri! 10 points to you for comic performance!

But to the actual facts...Rally Norway was very well organized, and it actually never went bankrupt. (It just lost a lot of money...)

[N.O.T]

Conditions were really really bad.....

[PLuto]

Good question, Mauri! 10 points to you for comic performance!

But to the actual facts...Rally Norway was very well organized, and it actually never went bankrupt. (It just lost a lot of money...)

Yes, Rally Norway had very big budget and paid for everything. But it was very nice rally.

[PLuto]

I must say I am rather disappointed with how Sweden has turned out.

It is normally one of the rallies with a strong entry list and close battles, but all the gaps in the top 8 are huge now, Wilslow is well in the points, Gardemeister is 9 minutes off the pace and still in the points and there is still a day to go.

Yes, but it is one of the most interesting events last year. Lot of interesting things, there are big gaps, but everybody can make puncture or go off road.

[A.F.F.]

Very nice photos Viktory :up:

Nice effort done by norwegian fans btw. :)

[PLuto]

An that is a real scandal. 110 teams has come to Karlstad and have prepared to drive two championship round. Each team has already used lots of money on their preparations, travel and accomodation. And for what...?

You don`t need to go to Lapland to find proper winter in Norway btw. I was skiing yesterday, 25 kms from Oslo. Snowdepth was about 1 metre...

They were thinking about cancel this event a week ago, but they still hoped that weather would be better...

[PLuto]

Does Al-Quassimy know that you don't have to stop on every stage in WRC ?

I think he has read this forum, because he done last stage WITHOUT any crash :eek: I think SS 14 was only one today, when he was for whole time on the road (except SS 12, which was cancelled).

[PLuto]

Khalid Al Qassimi:

On Thursday, I was talking about the Swedish rally fans and how enthusiastic they are. Today, I met them for real and they kept me in the rally.

I slid wide on a tightening corner of the first stage and went off the road and into a ditch. We were around six feet lower than the road and I thought my rally was over, for sure. But before the car had even come to a halt, a crowd of huge Swedish fans was gathered around the car and started pushing us back towards the road. Or at least, I thought they were pushing!

They literally lifted the car back up onto the road so that we could continue! It was absolutely unbelievable. There were a couple of times when it was steep that I had to start the engine and use it to help them - help them! - but it was them who got me back. And without their help, my rally would have finished there and then.

Another group did exactly the same later on in the day, when I slid off again. The conditions were very tricky for me with almost no experience of snow and ice and again, it was thanks to the fans that we were able to continue.

When you're in the car and the adrenalin is flowing, you don't always remember to thank those who help you but I want to say an enormous thank you to everyone who helped us today. Again, it is this kind of spirit that makes the WRC such an amazing sport and I hope that one day, I may be able to repay their efforts. Offering them some Abu Dhabi hospitality would be nice, if that were possible...

[Mirek]

I wonder why wrc.com PWRC video summary still ignores Martin Prokop's existence :(

[PLuto]

]I wonder why wrc.com PWRC video summary still ignores Martin Prokop's existence :(

Because he is very slow :D Or they have his name still only in JWRC and didnt found, he is starting in Sweden in PCWRC.

[PLuto]

Some photos from Sweden: http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=6003

http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/c_a623612032be76b3226f00b9d89a4a93.jpg
http://www.autosport.cz/img/fotografie/c_39403c7332bf4b8b63cd5562879bd4f0.jpg

[Karbonyl]

Because he is very slow :D Maybe he's slow, but he's THIRD...

[alleskids]

Looking at the second picture, it looks like that nice looking girl is driving the car. Who is she ? :cheese:

[Viktory]

Looking at the second picture, it looks like that nice looking girl is driving the car. Who is she ? :cheese:

Ramona Karlsson. She has a very nice co-driver too, Miriam something (sorry, forgot the surname) :)

[Tomi]

Prokop has done a very good rally sofar, he has potential for sure.

[A.F.F.]

Ramona Karlsson. She has a very nice co-driver too, Miriam something (sorry, forgot the surname) :)

Link please :D

[ste898]

Ramona Karlsson. She has a very nice co-driver too, Miriam something (sorry, forgot the surname) :)

OHHHHHHH yes please ......

[Mirek]

Here You have both...
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2008/wrc/sw/mf_f_158_karlsson_1.jpg

[Karbonyl]

Miriam Walfridsson ;)

And Ramona's web: http://www.ramonamotorsport.com/

http://www.ramonamotorsport.com/news/newsImages/68.jpg

[Wasted Talent]

]Here You have both...
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2008/wrc/sw/mf_f_158_karlsson_1.jpg

Oh my.......!

WT

[DonJippo]

Not only had Sebastien problems on stages but he was stopped on road section by police for speeding and given a ticket, what a weekend for him :crazy:

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/ralli/2008/502230.jpg

[bt52b]

Sunday' weather forecast
3C & foggy
http://www.weather.com/outlook/travel/businesstraveler/hourbyhour/SWXX0060

[Helstar]

AL QASSIMI K. / ORR M. (st. č. 23) I'm happy with the longest jump at Colin's crest :-)

WOT ?! How in the world Hirvonen, Atkinson and Galli lost this one ...


Galli does not have 'safe' in his vocabulary.

from 2006 on he has, believe me...

I'm afraid Consti is right. And I admit I loved the old Galli more (call me "idiot" xD !).

Btw, I've seen the TV coverage, JML is young AND still crazy. He was hitting everything in sight on one stage, like he was driving a bulldozer LOL

What can I say of the second day overall that hasn't been said. Sordo is doing quite well. Without the penalty he would be ahead of Solberg who is considered snow specialist (he is actually but the car sucks...). It's not bad anyway :)

[BeerBro]

Miriam Walfridsson ;)

And Ramona's web: http://www.ramonamotorsport.com/

http://www.ramonamotorsport.com/news/newsImages/68.jpg

WOWWWWWW

[gloomyDAY]

Not only had Sebastien problems on stages but he was stopped on road section by police for speeding and given a ticket, what a weekend for him :crazy:
No way! Upside down rally for Loeb.

Where do you get your rally news from?

[Helstar]

ROTFL ! Video on wrc.com of the usual interview with the first three drivers is really funny, JML talking about the big moment I described in the previous post (basicly it was the "unexpected" tarmac section), Mikko saying "had trouble in there too, Malcom would have been so happy if we both crashed there" and Gigi announces a relaxing 'cruise' tomorrow like he'd be driving a Stobart truck xD

Btw if JML wins tomorrow he'll be the youngest WRC winner, and this was known... but it will be nice to see Matthew Wilson face as he aims to be the one and now instead of 24 years the "limit" is 22 = less time (how old is he now ?).
He's still the youngest special stage winner anyway - which isn't something to trash I think.

[gloomyDAY]

Miriam Walfridsson ;)

And Ramona's web: http://www.ramonamotorsport.com/

Are those gals any good? In regards to rallying, not in bed. :p

[tmx]

^ Those are some hot rally drivers.

I think in the case of Henning crash, when you are in a position of a 1-2-3-4 Ford finnish I don't know if Wilson should have controlled them a bit.

[Mk2_Escort_RS]

Are those gals any good? In regards to rallying, not in bed. :p


53rd out of 55...

[A.F.F.]

Good morning folks :wave:

I'm at work so can someone please post a link to the splits. I don't have it here in this computer :(

[iJones]

Good morning!
http://www.nuclear.pri.ee/rally/index.php?by=fastest&stage=15&rally=Sweden
PS. Shouldn't you be working then? ;)

[A.F.F.]

Cheers iJones :up:

It happens to be veeeeeeeeeeeery quit day at work :)

[Helstar]

'morning... two minutes to start if I'm not wrong

[gloomyDAY]

Rally should start soon!

Damn. Almost midnight and I'm going surfing tomorrow morning.
Rallying > *

[A.F.F.]

Rally should start soon!

Damn. Almost midnight and I'm going surfing tomorrow morning.
Rallying > *

Surfing? Awesome, those waves must like totally radical dude.


I've seen Point Break ;)

[Helstar]

First three Fords on the stage :>

[gloomyDAY]

Surfing? Awesome, those waves must like totally radical dude.


I've seen Point Break ;)
LOL! I am a California kid.


First three Fords on the stage :>
Woah....now there's a Subaru in the mix. :eek:

[A.F.F.]

Wilson vs Mikkelsen and how up can Sandell go are the only things even remotely exciting to follow. Thank god I'm getting payed, otherwise I probably wouldn't bother to watch this morning.

[jonkka]

He's still the youngest special stage winner anyway - which isn't something to trash I think.

How can you possibly know that?

[gloomyDAY]

Wilson vs Mikkelsen and how up can Sandell go are the only things even remotely exciting to follow. Thank god I'm getting payed, otherwise I probably wouldn't bother to watch this morning.Now you know how I feel about tarmac rallies. Pointless!

Anyway, I'm just waiting to see if any of the 3 top Ford's have an incident. That could potentially place Petter into third overall.

[Mauri A]

Wilson vs Mikkelsen and how up can Sandell go are the only things even remotely exciting to follow. Thank god I'm getting payed, otherwise I probably wouldn't bother to watch this morning.
Agreed, I hope that they cancel today´s second loop!

[jonkka]

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/ralli/2008/502230.jpg

I wonder why police car has it's boot open, are they going to steal parts from C4? :eek:

[Helstar]

How can you possibly know that?
What do you mean :p I know many things btw !

[jonkka]

What do you mean :p I know many things btw !

Do you know who were stage winners in 1975 Monte Carlo Rally? Do you know how old was Piergiorgio Deila when he won stage?

[A.F.F.]

I wonder why police car has it's boot open, are they going to steal parts from C4? :eek:

Figures. Swedish police doesn't realize that it's useless. What comes to Loeb's car, there's none left of those parts anymore ;)

Is Petter actually trying to challenge Galli in this last leg ???

[Helstar]

Do you know who were stage winners in 1975 Monte Carlo Rally? Do you know how old was Piergiorgio Deila when he won stage?
17 ? 18 ?

[raybak]

Look slike the Solberg's are having a battle today, maybe they have a bet between themselves on who wins the day?

Ray

[jonkka]

17 ? 18 ?

If you'd know, there wouldn't be those question marks. I don't know either but at least I don't go claiming that Matthew is the youngest when I don't know how old the others have been.

[Helstar]

If you'd know, there wouldn't be those question marks. I don't know either but at least I don't go claiming that Matthew is the youngest when I don't know how old the others have been.
"2006 was Matthew's first full season in the WRC, as a driver for the Stobart VK M-Sport Ford team. He competed in all 16 rallies, and became the youngest ever world rally driver to win a stage (the Cordoba Stadium superspecial stage on Rally Argentina)"

Either my source is bad or you're just saying bulls*its ;)

[A.F.F.]

I don't know why Henning has gone ballistic?? What has he got to gain except manu points anymore ? Why risk them ?

[A.F.F.]

Sandell is in turn next. Let's see if Prokop can keep him behind.

[jparker]

I don't know why Henning has gone ballistic?? What has he got to gain except manu points anymore ? Why risk them ?

I think he likes it this way :)

[jparker]

Sandell is in turn next. Let's see if Prokop can keep him behind.
Sandell is the one that has to go ballistic.

[DonJippo]

"2006 was Matthew's first full season in the WRC, as a driver for the Stobart VK M-Sport Ford team. He competed in all 16 rallies, and became the youngest ever world rally driver to win a stage (the Cordoba Stadium superspecial stage on Rally Argentina)"

Either my source is bad or you're just saying bulls*its ;)

Depends...if that's from wrc.com, as it kind of sounds, then I would not trust to it too much... ;)

[jonkka]

Either my source is bad or you're just saying bulls*its ;)

I believe your source as soon as they tell me how old the all other stage winners have been, or even who the all WRC stage winners have been.

Matthew may be youngest of those we know of but how about the 222 other (that's a real figure, btw) stage winners in the history of WRC? And how about those of whom we don't know (I still am missing stage winner info from about 30 WRC events). That claim is tantamount to saying that Earth is the greenest planet in the universe.

[Helstar]

Wikipedia, sir...

edit: Ok ok I've understood, you're not happy that it is Matthew. Let's say there is no certified record in that matter and everybody back to nice mood please ^^

[A.F.F.]

Maybe they are being gentle to their tyres in PWRC but no radical differences in first split for the top 6. Not even Sandell.

[jonkka]

Wikipedia, sir...

Do they give birthdates for all these 223 drivers?

http://www.juwra.com/stats_ss_wins.html

[gloomyDAY]

The teams should slap on some gravel tires.

[jonkka]

Wikipedia, sir...

edit: Ok ok I've understood, you're not happy that it is Matthew. Let's say there is no certified record in that matter and everybody back to nice mood please ^^

Just for the record, I have nothing against Matthew in this. I just want to know if it's a fact (and only way to know that is to know all WRC stage winners and their DOBs - which are an info I am missing and would very dearly like to get my hands on).

[A.F.F.]

Al-Quassimy had serious problems with his car yesterday. Apparently it kept going out all the time :eek: That explains it all.

[DonJippo]

The teams should slap on some gravel tires.

They should but can't...only snow tyres allowed.

[Helstar]

Just for the record, I have nothing against Matthew in this. I just want to know if it's a fact (and only way to know that is to know all WRC stage winners and their DOBs - which are an info I am missing and would very dearly like to get my hands on).
Somebody should edit that info, or it will spread everywhere and we'll all believe it's 100% verified and true !

[jonkka]

Somebody should edit that info, or it will spread everywhere and we'll all believe it's 100% verified and true !

It's Wikipedia. You can edit it.

[Helstar]

It's Wikipedia. You can edit it.
I won't do that :p you are the one contesting it, the honour is all yours.

[A.F.F.]

I'll do it but don't be upset if there's whole lotta Paasonen info in that record sheet.

[Helstar]

Three Fords on stage ... (deja vu, or deja heared :p !)

I'll do it but don't be upset if there's whole lotta Paasonen info in that record sheet.
ROTFL amazing ahah xD

[Mauri A]

J-m???

[raybak]

no last split for Latvala?

hope he hasn't gone off

[Helstar]

He got interviewed on radio, so all ok (I think ^^)

[A.F.F.]

Hirvonen finished the stage. No sign of Latvala WTF ?????????

I have no radio access here. What's happening ??


EDIT: Phewwwwwwwwwwww!! Me heart..... huh

[Mauri A]

Hirvonen finished the stage. No sign of Latvala WTF ?????????

I have no radio access here. What's happening ??
Glitch in splits, he´s O.K.

[Sulland]

I am guessing Henning is pissed off from yesterday, and "want to show them", and he is probably having a lot of fun doing it. Stage win on the first stage of the day is not like him, he usually is a bit of a slow starter - so this is good - a new barrier broken !

Go Norwegians !!!!!

[Helstar]

SS16 Latvala J. - Antilla M. 5:56.4 best time...

[Bruno Portela]

Good morning everybody!!!!

[Mauri A]

SS16 Latvala J. - Antilla M. 5:56.4 best time...
Who is Antilla?

[A.F.F.]

Mikkelsen should start his chase right about now if he wants pass Wilson.

[Bruno Portela]

Mikkelsen should start his chase right about now if he wants pass Wilson.


For sure it won't be difficult to catch him!!

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Good Morning!!! Go J-M!!

[sp0+]

I dare to say that even if Seb was in the rally without problems, the result would probably have been the same......

[Tom206wrc]

Lots of time lost on split 1 for Gardemeister :s

[A.F.F.]

For sure it won't be difficult to catch him!!

I dunno know about that. Wilson sure didn't want to be an easy prey in the fisrt stage of the day. Now Mikkelsen is catching him but too little. He'll run out of mileage.

[DonJippo]

SS18 to be cancelled

[jonkka]

For sure it won't be difficult to catch him!!

So far the gap has increased by 50%...

[Bruno Portela]

Mikkelsen "not taking it to the limit", driving 95%

[Helstar]

Who is Antilla?
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=150&stage=2795&category=&group=

Bad name :) but ok you know who he is. or should be (Anttila).

[Bruno Portela]

SS18 to be cancelled

Are you sure???

[raybak]

Henning quick again

[Tom206wrc]

SS18 to be cancelled




Less possibility for Sandell to climb back on Pwrc podium :(

[Miika]

Are you sure???

http://www.swedishrally.com/en,nyhet.html?id=1202631038

[DonJippo]

Are you sure???

http://www.swedishrally.com/en,nyhet.html?id=1202631038

[Mauri A]

Garde has no power steering. Looks like Suzuki lasts only one stage a day.

[Bruno Portela]

Thank you DonJippo and Miika

[Tom206wrc]

Garde has no power steering. Looks like Suzuki lasts only one stage a day.




He will lose his 8th position to Hänninen on SS17(21km) :mark:

[Bruno Portela]

Less possibility for Sandell to climb back on Pwrc podium :(

The same applies to Armindo Araujo trying to catch Arai :(

[A.F.F.]

The same applies to Armindo Araujo trying to catch Arai :(

And Mikkelsen with Wilson :(

[Bruno Portela]

Does anybody know Peter van Merksteijn?

[Bruno Portela]

DonJippo and Miika, you should work for rallyradio. Only now they came aware that SS18 has been cancelled.

[CABAIO E'LONA]

Does anybody know Peter van Merksteijn?

is a dutch gentleman driver...

[Helstar]

SS17 live

[jonkka]

is a dutch gentleman driver...

Whose son also drives (in GrN)

[Bruno Portela]

Splits for ss16 gone, as usual.

[Tom206wrc]

Why nobody after Hänninen on SS16 ??? :confused:

[A.F.F.]

Splits for ss16 gone, as usual.

Seems like they're gone for SS 17 too :down:

[Tom206wrc]

Thanks ISC !!! :mad:

[A.F.F.]

After Hänninen there was Ketomaa on road. I hope there hasn't been any accident....

[dyfi1]

Heh, Mikko Hirvonen wondering why there are so many holes in the snowbanks in the stage, and there`s only one car in front of him!

[A.F.F.]

After Hänninen there was Ketomaa on road. I hope there hasn't been any accident....

Everythings OK.

[Tom206wrc]

Only 1.5s taken by Sandell from Prokop in SS17... :mark:

It looks like he won't chase Pwrc podium place...

[A.F.F.]

Heh, Mikko Hirvonen wondering why there are so many holes in the snowbanks in the stage, and there`s only one car in front of him!

Latvala needs some tutor talking right away.

The story goes..

The year Ari Vatanen won his title and they drove RAC, Hannu Mikkola was driving after Ari on stage. At the service he told Ari that those are not the lines of champion you're making. Vatanen was throwing his Escort all the way and Mikkola was afraid he'll never finish the rally that way. God for bid Vatanen believed Mikkola and eased off instantly.

[A.F.F.]

Yes... Mikkelsen took 7,9 seconds from Wilson. I think the pressure is too much for Wilson :mark: He'll probably is crapping his pants.

[dyfi1]

The story goes..

The year Ari Vatanen won his title and they drove RAC, Hannu Mikkola was driving after Ari on stage. At the service he told Ari that those are not the lines of champion you're making. Vatanen was throwing his Escort all the way and Mikkola was afraid he'll never finish the rally that way. God for bid Vatanen believed Mikkola and eased off instantly.


LOL, I would have been spectating that rally as a young boy with my father!

[Bruno Portela]

Impressive pace from Sordo, if it wasn't for the 5 min time penalty, he should be fighting along with Galli for the podium.

[Mauri A]

Do the drivers get new tyres for the last 2 stages?

[Tom206wrc]

Rautenbach is really suffering on that stage :s

[Bruno Portela]

Yes... Mikkelsen took 7,9 seconds from Wilson. I think the pressure is too much for Wilson :mark: He'll probably is crapping his pants.


He should be calling his father asking for instructions. Ho my, so many good drivers without a car and a good car so bad driven!!!

[Bruno Portela]

Araujo loosing time to Arai on the first split :( :( :(

Let's bring the car home, then.

[Tom206wrc]

Sandell is attacking strongly on SS17(9s taken from Prokop after 3 splits) :eek:

[Sulland]

Mikkelsen is gaining on Wilson
Sandell is gaining on Prokop - exiting stuff !

Who will win in the two battles ?

[rp]

Urmo gave some surprising comment on the radio: f****** h***... He seems to be very disappointed about his first experience with the C4...

[Bruno Portela]

Araujo should have some problems, loosing to much time, even his only crusing

[Tom206wrc]

Finally Sandell gained 11s on Prokop !!!!

Go Patrik GOOOO !!!! :bounce:

[Wim_Impreza]

Urmo gave some surprising comment on the radio: f****** h***... He seems to be very disappointed about his first experience with the C4...

It seems even the Subaru is better on snow / ice than the C4.

[Wim_Impreza]

Finally Sandell gained 11s on Prokop !!!!

Go Patrik GOOOO !!!! :bounce:

Go Martin GOOOO :)

[Jaanus]

Urmo gave some surprising comment on the radio: f****** h***... He seems to be very disappointed about his first experience with the C4...

He gave the comment because he was surprised to be 4th fastest on the stage.

[Bruno Portela]

Stupid radio, as Araujo is approching the finish line for the interview, they leave the stage!!!!

[DonJippo]

Ok it's time for a little nap before the last two stages :D

[A.F.F.]

Sandell is in the zone :up: Two stages left to pass Prokop.

[A.F.F.]

Btw.... Again I'm not going to shine with pickems :mark:

[Wim_Impreza]

Btw.... Again I'm not going to shine with pickems :mark:

Do you drunk again to much alcohol? :D

[A.F.F.]

Do you drunk again to much alcohol? :D

Nope, I did bet on Loeb.

[Viking]

Pictures of Hennings car on crash-site yesterday in his blogg
http://www.vgb.no/6339

Mechanics have done a great job, he is flying today :up:

[Scrap_Iron]

He should be calling his father asking for instructions. Ho my, so many good drivers without a car and a good car so bad driven!!!
And a rich youngster driving an old car well ;) :bounce:

[RS]

Btw if JML wins tomorrow he'll be the youngest WRC winner, and this was known... but it will be nice to see Matthew Wilson face as he aims to be the one and now instead of 24 years the "limit" is 22 = less time (how old is he now ?).
He's still the youngest special stage winner anyway - which isn't something to trash I think.

Nah, he's the youngest 'Super Special' stage winner. How about proper stages? Or maybe Matthew should go and try rallycross?

[Tom206wrc]

Wilslow is rather brilliant 5th overall on such rally and is being again criticized ?? :p :

[kleisj]

Hi all!
Why ss18 was canceled?

[Fischer]

Rautenbach went off on the road section? That's kind of ugly.

[ITC55]

Rautenbach went off on the road section? That's kind of ugly.

Hate that

[Raini]

Hi all!
Why ss18 was canceled?

Bad road conditions

[Tom206wrc]

Conrad is a specialist of going off road where there's no speed necessary :eek: :s

[Viking]

Wilslow is rather brilliant 5th overall on such rally and is being again criticized ?? :p :

Sticking out my neck her also, I think Wilson have done a good job here in Sweden steady driving and no big drama on very difficult condisons. 5 min behind rally leader is good in my book. His problems is that he don’t seems able to fight for really good stagetimes from time to time.
If he fights of Mikkelsen on the last stages i will give him even more cred.

[Tomi]

Sticking out my neck her also, I think Wilson have done a good job here in Sweden steady driving and no big drama on very difficult condisons. 5 min behind rally leader is good in my book.

The timegap would easily be the double if there would have been something to fight for in the front, this rally was over soon as Loeb did make his error.

[Viking]

The timegap would easily be the double if there would have been something to fight for in the front, this rally was over soon as Loeb did make his error.

I am not so sure, they were pushing at least to ss11 when Henning went off, after that Petter still has lost 1/2 min.

[pettersolberg29]

Penultimate stage in 5 mins!

Will Mikkelsen get Wilson?
Will Sandell get a podium?
Will anyone in the top 3 retire to let Petter get a podium!?

[A.F.F.]

Will anyone in the top 3 retire to let Petter get a podium!?


Well, I guess no for that reason :)

[Tomi]

I am not so sure

i am, because hirvonen said he lifted emidetly when he did see Loeb by the road.

[pettersolberg29]

SS19 started

[dimviii]

@AFF :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Bruno Portela]

Penultimate stage in 5 mins!

Will Mikkelsen get Wilson?
Will Sandell get a podium?
Will anyone in the top 3 retire to let Petter get a podium!?

1. YES :)

2. YES :)

3. OF COURSE NOT, DON'T BE RIDICULOUS :) :) :)

[Viking]

Penultimate stage in 5 mins!

Will Mikkelsen get Wilson?
Will Sandell get a podium?
Will anyone in the top 3 retire to let Petter get a podium!?

Will anyone have a puncture?
Will we get 3 Norwegians in top 10?

[pettersolberg29]

3. OF COURSE NOT, DON'T BE RIDICULOUS :) :) :)


One can always hope...

[Bruno Portela]

Will anyone have a puncture?
Will we get 3 Norwegians in top 10?

Look out for some Vikings spreading nails all over the road!!!! :)

[Viking]

i am, because hirvonen said he lifted emidetly when he did see Loeb by the road.

That was beacause Loeb was blocking most of the road :D , anyway dont think Petter and others has lifted of 5min of speed.

[Bruno Portela]

Dear Norwegians, sorry to disappoint all of you, but the first three have just finished SS19 :) :)

[Bruno Portela]

It seems that Slowilson is trying to win SS19 !!

[pettersolberg29]

Petter's fighting well...

[luca]

Wilson stopped!!!

[DonJippo]

That was beacause Loeb was blocking most of the road :D , anyway dont think Petter and others has lifted of 5min of speed.

Others have, Petter has been on full attack... ;)

[Tomi]

anyway dont think Petter and others has lifted of 5min of speed.

Petter is no measure of speed.

[DonJippo]

Wilson stopped on stage.

[Bruno Portela]

Wilson stopped!!!

He was overspeeding!!! :)

[pettersolberg29]

Wilson in trouble!

[Bruno Portela]

Wilson has a problem with the throttle!!!! Oh lord, did they only noticed it after 3 years??? :) :)

[pettersolberg29]

Unlucky for Wilson, but good for Mikkelsen!

So whoever said yes to Andreas getting Matthew's place - well done!

[dimviii]

from ewrc.cz about Wilson..
Stopped on the stage, problems with throttle

[Viking]

To my Finnish friends. If Henning wins all stages today, will he be star of the rally like Latvala in GB ;)

[urabus-denoS2000]

Group N point!!!!!!!!!!
Hanninen 8th!!!!!!!!!

[Sulland]

Wilson has a problem with the throttle!!!! Oh lord, did they only noticed it after 3 years??? :) :)

:rotflmao: Good one !!

But in all decency I must say his pace is picking up. I do not think he is a natural as Østberg and Mikkelsen and many others, but as many other topdrivers he will come with time and training !!
He is still young !

[Sulland]

Will Østberg win this one ????

Henning was held up by Wilson.

Edit: No also lost out in the last part of stage !

[urabus-denoS2000]

Nice rally for Sordo!
If he nad not those 5 minutes,he would be 3rd

[Mauri A]

To my Finnish friends. If Henning wins all stages today, will he be star of the rally like Latvala in GB ;)
Of course!!

[Finni]

:rotflmao: Good one !!

But in all decency I must say his pace is picking up. I do not think he is a natural as Østberg and Mikkelsen and many others, but as many other topdrivers he will come with time and training !!
He is still young !

Yes, it's interesting to see how good average guy can become with perfect circumstances and training. With Wilson's experience Loeb was already driving for wins in every conditions and other top-talents were near to top-guys in that phase.

[pettersolberg29]

Wilson will become a solid points scorer I think - a bit like Henning in the future.

[Bruno Portela]

To my Finnish friends, what is Janne Touhino doing this year??

[Mauri A]

To my Finnish friends, what is Janne Touhino doing this year??
Who is Touhino?

[dimviii]

Henning about wilson from http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?id=35
We have very good pace, we saw Mathew changing the tyre on the stage

no throttle problem?

[Bruno Portela]

:rotflmao: Good one !!

But in all decency I must say his pace is picking up. I do not think he is a natural as Østberg and Mikkelsen and many others, but as many other topdrivers he will come with time and training !!
He is still young !

You are completely right, when he’s 80 years old, he should be fighting for the championship. :) :)

[DonJippo]

To my Finnish friends, what is Janne Touhino doing this year??

You can find out it from here.

http://www.jannetuohino.com/

[Bruno Portela]

Who is Touhino?

Come on Mauri, you understood whom I was asking for!!! :)

Janne Tuohino

[rp]

Nice rally for Sordo!
If he nad not those 5 minutes,he would be 3rd

No. Galli would have driven much faster if the situation had been different.. Sordo is not able to beat Gigi, Henning and propably also Petter in Sweden...

[pettersolberg29]

SS20 - the final stage - has begun!

Will there be any top 8 changes?
Will J-M get his first win?
Will Ford get a 1,2,3?
Will Rautenbach crash again?
Will Petter get into the top 3 (please)?

So many questions...

[urabus-denoS2000]

A-Qassimi wins the Colins Crest award!!!
He jumped 36 meters,90 cm more than Merkensteijn and 1 meter more than Hirvonen

[DonJippo]

SS20 - the final stage - has begun!

Will Rautenbach crash again?

How many rautenbachs he has had during the weekend sofar?

[Mauri A]

Come on Mauri, you understood whom I was asking for!!! :)

Janne Tuohino
O.K. Bruno, I don´t call you Porttola!!

[malscar]

SS20 - the final stage - has begun!

Will ?
Will ?
Will ?
Will ?
Will ?

So many questions...

Who is Will?

[rp]

How many rautenbachs he has had during the weekend sofar?

Only two this time...

SS 9, Conrad Rautenbach (Citröen). Went off the road on the road section before the stage. Was 12 min late at the start of the stage and got 2 min penalty.

SS 17, Conrad Rautenbach (Citröen). Went off the road and the snow plocked the radiator. Had to stop and clean it. Lost almost 2 minutes.

[Bruno Portela]

I simply hate when the splits stop working

[pettersolberg29]

How can Rautenbach crash in the road section!!???

And several knocks in stage - and he was late to a stage to lose 2 mins!

Myabe I should rephrase it to:
Will Rautenbach mess up again?

[urabus-denoS2000]

SS20 - the final stage - has begun!

Will there be any top 8 changes?
Will J-M get his first win?
Will Ford get a 1,2,3?
Will Rautenbach crash again?
Will Petter get into the top 3 (please)?

1.NO
2.YES
3.YES
4.Probably YES
5.NOOOOOOOOO, Gigi deserves it and has been the faster man all rally


rp: I know that!!!
I just took 5 minutes from his 7:04.
I know that if he hadnt those 5 minutes everything would be different and everyone in front of him would push harder.

[Bruno Portela]

How can Rautenbach crash in the road section!!???

And several knocks in stage - and he was late to a stage to lose 2 mins!

Myabe I should rephrase it to:
Will Rautenbach mess up again?

:) :) :) :) :)

[Miika]

Come on J-M

[Mirek]

Martin Prokop is fighting :) On stage 19 they were in just 0,2 sec with Sandell. 1,2 sec into last stage...

[Tom206wrc]

Incredible until the end the fight for podium in Pwrc !!!! :eek:


1s between Prokop and Sandell with one big stage to go(SS20 and its 21km long) :D

[Bruno Portela]

Impressive demonstration from J-M Latvala. Congratulations!!

[dimviii]

Sandel only 0,2 sec gain from Prokop!!! :eek:

fight till the last ss!! :D

[rp]

Y E S ! The youngest ever winner of the WRC.. Congratulations J-M.!!

[DonJippo]

JML has finished the last stage! Way to go!!!

Poika teki sen :D

[Mauri A]

Latvala the winner!!
Hope his windows are thick enough.

[Bruno Portela]

Sandel only 0,2 sec gain from Prokop!!! :eek:

fight till the last ss!! :D

From where are you getting this information???

[dyfi1]

:up: :up: fantastic `finnish`!! :up: :up:

[ProRally]

Congratulations J-M & Miikka

[pettersolberg29]

Is Galli ok?

[pettersolberg29]

Yes - split up.

[Iskald]

With 18 years, 7 months and 19 days Andreas Mikkelsen will be the youngest ever pointscorer in WRC.

[dimviii]

@ Bruno
from here mate
http://www.ewrc-results.com/results_main.php?event=150&stage=2798&category=&group=
also good comments here
http://www.vysledky-rally.cz/vysledky/?rz=673&filtr=
live splits from here
http://www.nuclear.pri.ee/rally/index.php?by=&stage=20&rally=Sweden

[pettersolberg29]

Congratulations Latvala and Ford!
Good points for Petter!
But really well done to Andreas Mikkelsen!

[Glee]

Will Henning get SS20 also, as the rest of to days ss?

[N.O.T]

Amazing first victory for J-M !!!!

Hirvonen gave up too easily......i didn't like that.

Loeb couldn't do much about Jm and i don't think he could match his times....but he would certainly apply pressure. He now has to worry about finland as well....he has 2 people to beat not just 1.

I don't think on gravel JM has much chances yet and i doubt Hirvonen is in a place to be close to Loeb also....but time will tell.

I think also the organisers must be more careful with their selection of the place for the rally....

[dimviii]

congrats for JM Latvala :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

future belongs to him

also congrats for the crazy italian guy GIGI GALLI!! :bounce:

Also Hanninen show very matured and that one i think that he had not yet!
congrats to him also!!

[Scrap_Iron]

:up: Top man that Mikklesen bloke :) :s mokin:

[N.O.T]

without the 5min penalty Sordo would fight for places 3-4....

[Mauri A]

Amazing first victory for J-M !!!!


I don't think on gravel JM has much chances yet and i doubt Hirvonen is in a place to be close to Loeb also....but time will tell.

I think also the organisers must be more careful with their selection of the place for the rally....

How? This was a gravel rally.
Yes, welcome to Finnish Lapland and Rovaniemi!

[KKS]

Rautenbah again went off?

[Skiptracer]

No split for Rautenbach? :p

[ProRally]

Real problem for Loeb and Citroën is that they can ONLY use as per FIA rule 5 engines in 2008.
Sordo blew 1 in MC, now Loeb in Sweden.... still 13 events to go

[Viking]

Congrats to J-M!!!

Who is the youngest pointscorer ever?

Henning wins all stages today :up: :up:

[Glee]

without the 5min penalty Sordo would fight for places 3-4....

And without 3 Superrally stages Henning would be 2nd...

[FAlonso]

Glad to see everything went ok on this last day for J-M!! Very well done and many congratulations to him! This is just the start!