Rallye WRC Monte Carlo 2019

[KKS]

You're kidding right?... how can you possibly know what came first? (Puncture or rim?)
:D it's definitely rubber harder than steel and broke that rim))))

[T16]

:D it's definitely rubber harder than steel and broke that rim))))

Hmm, not entirely sure what you mean. I think the rim may have been damaged after the puncture. You just can't say for sure either way.

[EstWRC]

first Toyota 1-2 this year on stage

[T16]

Sordo crashed out on exactly same stage last year about 7km in. So no Sordo would have crashed earlier ;)

This was at the finish line, not when they are hard at it mid stage!! No excuse.

[dimviii]

Ogier might take this stage still, the ending is dry and he is just 4 secs from Ott in final split

if you watch splits Neuville started to loose vs Meeke Ogier Tanak after midstage where we see at live that is almost dry

[EstWRC]

Hyundai Motorsport
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@HMSGOfficial
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⚠️ SS9: #Mikkelsen forced to retire from #RallyeMonteCarlo with a broken wheel.
"I had the last corner as flat in my notes to get the perfect exit towards the flying finish and I touched on the outside."

[Norm75]

:D it's definitely rubber harder than steel and broke that rim))))

If they were steel they wouldn't break. Try magnesium/aluminium.

[KKS]

Wonderful shots of Kalle and Sarrazin race on stage

[dimviii]

Hyundai Motorsport
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@HMSGOfficial
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⚠️ SS9: #Mikkelsen forced to retire from #RallyeMonteCarlo with a broken wheel.
"I had the last corner as flat in my notes to get the perfect exit towards the flying finish and I touched on the outside."

Meekelsen https://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/oldforum/superman.gif

[KKS]

Hmm, not entirely sure what you mean. I think the rim may have been damaged after the puncture. You just can't say for sure either way.
we see that some rubber still on a wheel and edges of a rim didn't touch a ground. So it easy to make a judgment that puncture and broken rip happen at one moment.

[TypeR]

Hyundai Motorsport
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@HMSGOfficial
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⚠️ SS9: #Mikkelsen forced to retire from #RallyeMonteCarlo with a broken wheel.
"I had the last corner as flat in my notes to get the perfect exit towards the flying finish and I touched on the outside."

haha, BROKEN wheel.. should be missing half the back of the car

[dupanton]

Neuville and Ogier also had the final corner as "flat" I think. Both lifted and had a bit of a moment too.

[krissucool]

Why the F do we have only 4 stages today :( . What is this bullcrap?

[KKS]

Meekelsen https://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/oldforum/superman.gif
as a result only RL corner of a car was 'flying' :D

[T16]

we see that some rubber still on a wheel and edges of a rim didn't touch a ground. So it easy to make a judgment that puncture and broken rip happen at one moment.

No... the rim might have smashed against the edge of a hole in the road. They've driven for 9k (I think) with a deflating tyre and you are sure that the rim didn't get any damage in this distance.

[er88]

Latvala sounded delighted with his driving and speed at the stage end interview, but was 24/25s down on both his team mates on the same package, and lost a place to Loeb overall. Tanak will get him if things carry on in the same vein

[Augury]

So if your not WRC Pro they won't even show your stage time in the graphics?

[TypeR]

Why the F do we have only 4 stages today :( . What is this bullcrap?

French stuff..

[KKS]

SS10
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx0yKRUW0AE8n1E.jpg

[Eli]

Think Latvala might struggle this year in terms of pace against Tanak and Meeke

To finish first, First you have to finish, or in this case, we'll see how many mistakes each driver makes...

[mknight]

This was at the finish line, not when they are hard at it mid stage!! No excuse.

Exactly as I said, Sordo would have crashed even earlier when "hard at it". Not like Mikkelsen was meters off the road.... like Sordo who jumped out into a ravine.

Seriously both are mistakes, your one line was retarded.

[Eli]

Why the F do we have only 4 stages today :( . What is this bullcrap?

FIA decided to cut the total distance from 500 to 350Km, and for some reason ACM decided to cut it from 388KM to 320~ instead of say....350?

[Eli]

BTW, anyone knows what happened to Lappi's C3?

[T16]

Seriously both are mistakes, your one line was retarded.[/QUOTE]

Most of your lines are.

[Norm75]

BTW, anyone knows what happened to Lappi's C3?Engine issue

[able1]

BTW, anyone knows what happened to Lappi's C3?

smashed his wishbone

[Norm75]

smashed his wishbone

This morning, not yesterday.
Budar saying engine issue but they don't quite know what yet.

[able1]

This morning, not yesterday.
Budar saying engine issue but they don't quite know what yet.

sorry about that , just woke up so bit sleepy

[krissucool]

your one line was retarded.

As was Mikkelsens driving line.

Badum Tšššš!

[jonkka]

FIA decided to cut the total distance from 500 to 350Km, and for some reason ACM decided to cut it from 388KM to 320~ instead of say....350?

Saturday at Monte has always been 4-5 stages (in recent years).

[KKS]

SS9 live
https://www.facebook.com/ramotorsportphotography/videos/2125063111139926/

that C2driver just amazing

[Japé]

Since Mikkelsen's mistake was in the finish, spectators could have delivered the missing parts back to Mikkelsen and they would have been able to fix it back ;)

[GravelBen]

What a surprise :eek: mknight to the rescue rushing to defend his poor helpless Mikkelsen. :rolleyes:

I see he said he thought it would be flat but it looked quite like a lapse in concentration, which wouldn't be the first time. Maybe he saw a tractor a minute earlier and had some bad memories?

[GravelBen]

Since Mikkelsen's mistake was in the finish, spectators could have delivered the missing parts back to Mikkelsen and they would have been able to fix it back ;)

I've seen a driver and codriver walk 5km back into a stage from the end to collect a wheel they left behind, so they could patch the car up and limp to service. Quite funny really but it worked.

[mknight]

As was Mikkelsens driving line.


Good company then ;)

As I wrote it was a mistake. But it's just epic to bring out Sordo within seconds when he managed to crash out on exactly same stage and from exactly same position (3rd), 12 months ago.

I am 100% sure he didn't realize that and was just looking for a quick troll post. Just as GravelBen is doing.

[dimviii]

from British rally media

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx0o9PyWsAAxpUI.jpg

[jonkka]

I've seen a driver and codriver walk 5km back into a stage from the end to collect a wheel they left behind, so they could patch the car up and limp to service. Quite funny really but it worked.

Actually, rules say that you have to bring any and all tyres fitted in the car back to service / tire change.

[dimviii]

live link
https://www.twitch.tv/flashday

[EstWRC]

Evans?

[Ds3]

Let's all of us demand from WRC+ for them to make a button that switches off the commentary so we can enjoy the rally without screamy voices that speaks louder than the co-drivers.

[EstWRC]

Evans off

[BigWorm]

What a miserable rally for M-Sport

[COD]

Think Latvala might struggle this year in terms of pace against Tanak and Meeke

For sure, he did struggle already last year

[rallye-vid]

Okey, we have lost a Citroën, Hyundai and Ford. Time for Toyota now? ;)

[KKS]

Oh Meeke at the end was BRILLIANT! What a drive!

[EstWRC]

Loeb losing a lot to Ott in here

[Rallyper]

Evans stuck after quite massive off. (For those who don´t have All Live... ;) )

[er88]

Evans and Mikkelsen going to struggle with pressure this year if they don't start producing big results.

Evans knows he has to step up, or this will be his last season. It's his 5th full season and he's main man now even though last season's performances didn't deserve it.
And Andreas had to step up too, and knows he has Loeb already in the team matching and beating him after a few days in the car, and Thierry totally dominant over him.

Two silly mistakes from both this morning

[krissucool]

Something wrong with Loeb?

[Japé]

With a help of some spectators from Finland, Evans and Suninen would not been DNF.

[T16]

Evans and Mikkelsen going to struggle with pressure this year if they don't start producing big results.

Evans knows he has to step up, or this will be his last season. It's his 5th full season and he's main man now even though last season's performances didn't deserve it.
And Andreas had to step up too, and knows he has Loeb already in the team matching and beating him after a few days in the car, and Thierry totally dominant over him.

Two silly mistakes from both this morning

Agree with most of it, but I think Evans' mistake was more being caught out by the conditions, whereas Mikkelsen's was just stupidity.

[er88]

With some spectators from Finland, Evans and Suninen would not been DNF.That bank is steep. Even with the Finnish army you wouldn't get Evans' car out imo

[er88]

Agree with most of it, but I think Evans' mistake was more being caught out by the conditions, whereas Mikkelsen's was just stupidity.Yeah could be, seems like Tanak had a similar moment and he says it was due to black ice

[T16]

Yeah could be, seems like Tanak had a similar moment and he says it was due to black ice

Wouldn't be surprised if we see Ogier or Neuville have a moment there too, given how they are pushing.

[able1]

With a help of some spectators from Finland, Evans and Suninen would not been DNF.

evans possibly but not suninen .. even finns obey marshalls

[noel157]

Latvala needs to stall more often....

[krissucool]

Neuville seems to have had a moment or something earlier. Slower than Tidemand in the second split.

[KKS]

Evans stuck after quite massive off. (For those who don´t have All Live... ;) )
after an impact we see even large tree fall

[EstWRC]

Tänak has made all the gap with others after split 1, after that stays the same

[er88]

Tänak has made all the gap with others after split 1, after that stays the sameA ballsy drive on the ice!!

[krissucool]

All back to normal with Tänak dominating. What the hell was that yesterday??

[dimviii]

Something wrong with Loeb?

stalled and not confident at car

Latvalas rim

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx098pgX0AEMidG.jpg

[Mintexmemory]

[QUOTE=er88;1206569]A ballsy drive on the ice!![/QUOTE

Certainly is! On this form he could catch Loeb and Latvala in the afternoon. Looking forward to seeing how it pans out.

[EstWRC]

what a surprise that rim, its after SS10

[dimviii]

Mikkelsens crash outside

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/28022-mikkelsen-crash-monte-carlo-2019/

[KKS]

Latvalas rim

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx098pgX0AEMidG.jpg
another one

[KKS]

With a help of some spectators from Finland, Evans and Suninen would not been DNF.
not able... too deep. Suninen car stuck over a rock and Evans have to steep hill and too much damage on a car

[mknight]

Mikkelsens crash outside

https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/28022-mikkelsen-crash-monte-carlo-2019/

Seems like too early entry and then the correction send him out.

[dimviii]

no restart for Evans

[wia5958]

Seems like too early entry and then the correction send him out.

Or he was never making that corner. Too fast into it

[dimviii]

Evans outside
https://twitter.com/rallypl/status/1089098280456372225

[dimviii]

Seems like too early entry and then the correction send him out.

also there is dirt at road right at apex.

[Norm75]

no restart for Evans

No restart for anyone today, it's Monte rules, crash in Saturday no rally 2

[KKS]

Seems like too early entry and then the correction send him out.
there is a grass on a apex from prev. cars cutting. In some moment he correct sliding and that cause him running wide. Without that correction that corner can make it flat

[mknight]

Or he was never making that corner. Too fast into it

"The speed was okay, but the corner was too tight"

[able1]

"The speed was okay, but the corner was too tight"

thats reason behind 99% of crashes

[Tarmop]

All back to normal with Tänak dominating. What the hell was that yesterday??

Why is he fifth then?
Yes-yes, he is quick and should be and probably would be up there without that rim issue but no reason to downplay others, especially a 6 time wolrd champion and multiple times runnerup-in what is their home event.

[EstWRC]

you just asked and answered your own question :D

i wouldnt call this domination any way https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/52398-rallye-automobile-de-monte-carlo-2019/?leg=3

but great to see him fast again, said they made changes to the car

[EstWRC]

Mikkelsen in 2011 and 2019 https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/1089103933572820992

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx1GOn_X4AAshcB.jpg:large

[KKS]

but great to see him fast again, said they made changes to the car
He see possibility to make 3rd position and jump into a rhythm immediately

[Norm75]

Seems like too early entry and then the correction send him out.

That's what I thought. Looked to me if he stayed on his initial trajectory he may have got away with it, but as soon as he corrected he was onto the mud and no grip. Probably is flat left if on right line and clean tarmac.

[KKS]

and BTW why a R2 cars now in Monte with new RC4B class? Any changing in regulation? All past years it's a simple RC4

[Tauri_J]

With a help of some spectators from Finland, Evans and Suninen would not been DNF.

lol stop it

and Evans's car was totaled

[EstWRC]

Meeke notes https://twitter.com/krismeeke/status/1089105987410243584

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx1IHuyXgAoc9kR.jpg

[GravelBen]

Or he was never making that corner. Too fast into it

Thats how I saw it too, I don't think he was ever going to make it at that speed (maybe on a clean dry road, but its Monte) - though if he'd had a better line with later apex he might have got away with glancing off the face of the wall instead of what looks like catching the end of it.

I guess its a bit academic now whether the mistake was calling it flat in recce or misjudging the corner / losing concentration on the stage, the result is the same.

[krissucool]

Why is he fifth then?
Yes-yes, he is quick and should be and probably would be up there without that rim issue but no reason to downplay others, especially a 6 time wolrd champion and multiple times runnerup-in what is their home event.

What are you on about?
Why is he fifth? Because he broke a rim and was slow yesterday, driving at about a 5th place tempo.
Today he has won both stages, doing what he usually does.

[dodge33cymru]

Greensmith top Ford then.....

[Rallyper]

Yesterday Tanak was out from podium already from start, because of cancelled SS3. Mentally and also tyrewise.

Today is Another day.

Evans car should not be able to drive any more. Like someone said. Looked like an Heavy impact.

[Rally Power]

Gutted for Mikkelsen, Evans and Lappi but the win figth (and P3) is still on. Greensmith is doing a great job but with this absurd WRC2 split Bonato may start to get defensive; he’s a relaxed leader on his category.

[AnttiL]

Why the F do we have only 4 stages today :( . What is this bullcrap?

Well we had 2 stages on thursday. Also a long liaison in the evening to Monaco. Two years before they only did a fifth stage on Saturday afternoon. Not much difference.

[AnttiL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx1X0wTX0AAB7b8.jpg

[mknight]

Doesn't look that bad actually.

[KKS]

Doesn't look that bad actually.
yep. 2 or 3 Finns with rope could save him from DNF easily /warning sarcasm inside/

[EstWRC]

#Tyre info: Day 3 afternoon - SS11 & SS12

Hyundai/Tidemand: 4 MICHELIN Pilot Alpin (PA) studded + 2 MICHELIN Pilot Sport Soft (S6)
Ogier/Suninen/Latvala/Meeke: 4 PA studded + 2 SS6
Tanak: 4 PA no studded + 2 SS6


Ott is crazy if that is right

[KKS]

Tanak: 4 PA no studded + 2 SS6


Ott is crazy if that is right
Oh my GOD!!

[EstWRC]

i refuse to believe it, yesterday they also got Suninens choice wrong

[mknight]

If the snow turns into slush with no ice below then non-studded tires are as good as studded and better on the dry. If only top layer of snow is slush and the bottom stays hard you have extremely slippery surface, more slippery than "dry" ice.

[AL14]

#Tyre info: Day 3 afternoon - SS11 & SS12

Hyundai/Tidemand: 4 MICHELIN Pilot Alpin (PA) studded + 2 MICHELIN Pilot Sport Soft (S6)
Ogier/Suninen/Latvala/Meeke: 4 PA studded + 2 SS6
Tanak: 4 PA no studded + 2 SS6


Ott is crazy if that is right

Maybe Bluuford just did a magic. :)

[EstWRC]

working well so far for Ott

[dimviii]

Katsuta spin
https://www.ewrc-results.com/video/28025-crash-rallye-monte-carlo-2019/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx1X0wTX0AAB7b8.jpg

Disaster. Good points were really possible here with others problems. Not even a chance of PS now. :(

[mknight]

It's just so much calmer atmosphere in Meeke's car with Marshall.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Meeke loves it ! ;)

[EstWRC]

nice one Ott!

[AL14]

Tanak didn't suffer snowy/icy sections...

[satnav]

Don't know if it was mentioned earlier . a good site for splits is Michelin ;

https://michelinmotorsport.com/Evenement/2019-Rallye-Monte-Carlo

[AL14]

what a 3rd split from Neuville!

[EstWRC]

what a 3rd split from Neuville!

its his 4th

[AL14]

its his 4th

Looking at wrc website it's his 3rd. Is it a mistake from them?

EDIT: they update the page and it was his 4th indeed.

[Googol]

Looking at wrc website it's his 3rd. Is it a mistake from them?

On the website -20,9 was originally at 4th and 3rd was over 2 minutes behind. The 3rd was taken away and 4th moved to 3rd.

[AL14]

Kalle faster than Tidemand at 3rd split. Or at least that's what they're showing, you can never be sure lol

[EstWRC]

not so many km-s left today but if Ott continues like this he can get 3rd tomorrow.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

not so many km-s left today but if Ott continues like this he can get 3rd tomorrow.

No question.

[mknight]

Think Ogier has this covered tbh. Staying within a few secs with Neuville on tricky stages where C3 typically suffers. Then tomorrow it looks pretty much without snow/ice and he will just sail away.

[EstWRC]

haha brilliant answer from Ogier to Neuville there.

awesome that we have this amazing battle on the first event already this year!

[KKS]

Interesting fights everywhere! I love this sport!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville saying its Ogier's home roads so he should be hard to beat.

Will he fight him to the limit or be ok with 2nd... and let Ogier be the snowplough again in Sweden ?

[NoName]

Neuville saying its Ogier's home roads so he should be hard to beat.

Will he fight him to the limit or be ok with 2nd... and let Ogier be the snowplough again in Sweden ?

Can be a smart move. Or take risk for the first and maybe end up with zero point.

[dimviii]

at mostly dry today stages toyota took at 1st stage 1-2, at second 1-2-4, and at third stage 1-2.
remember my thoughts at Tanaks tests pre Monte about yaris that was very impressive?https://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/oldforum/iconcool5lw.gif

all these happened while Ogier and Neuville fighting for the lead

[COD]

Tänak will pass pathetic Latvala sooner or later

[tommeke_B]

"Ploughing" in Sweden is only when there's fresh snow, Ogier has won it several times starting from first position. I think for Neuville it's equally good if he finishes first or second in Monte. More important could be the starting position before Mexico.

[EstWRC]

at mostly dry today stages toyota took at 1st stage 1-2, at second 1-2-4, and at third stage 1-2.
remember my thoughts at Tanaks tests pre Monte about yaris that was very impressive?https://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/oldforum/iconcool5lw.gif

all these happened while Ogier and Neuville fighting for the lead

i agree with most of you but todays first pass of SS9 was anything else than dry.

[TypeR]

SS9 was much slippier. Ott's time was 1min faster on SS11

[dimviii]

i agree with most of you but todays first pass of SS9 was anything else than dry.

yeap wasnt dry,but again faster.That Meeke can be straight away faster today from Neuville and Ogier,and close to ''benchmark'' Tanak,says a lot about yaris asphalt performance.
Very interesting year in front of us guys! Very curious about the bone dry asphalt rallies!

just take a look,with no big factor the tyre choice
https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/52398-rallye-automobile-de-monte-carlo-2019/?leg=3

[denkimi]

Kalle faster than Tidemand at 3rd split. Or at least that's what they're showing, you can never be sure lol
rovanpera faster at the finish than tideman.

its getting embarrassing for tideman.

[steve.mandzij]

Tänak will pass pathetic Latvala sooner or laterIs Loeb pathetic too?

[Rallyper]

rovanpera faster at the finish than tideman.

its getting embarrassing for tideman.

At first his name is Tidemand. ;)

Many factors plays a role. Looking at stage times for Tidemand in RMC isn´t relevant.

[tommeke_B]

Of course there are many factors. But he has only 2 rallies to drive so far, this year. And with such a result/stage times in Monte he puts a ton of pressure on himself for Sweden...

[mufcAleksi]

He still has no right to be slower than R5s, that's almost Al Qassimi and Serderidis level speed

[Eli]

https://www.redbull.com/int-en/tv/video/AP-1XUGGAJX91W11/super-stage-monte-carlo

For anyone who wants something a bit different from WRC+.

[EstWRC]

you guys are too harsh on Tidemand...Monte is the hardest rally on calendar, his first kilometres with these beast of a car, what did you expect?

For example Tänak was 8th on his first outing in Monte and behind such a guy called Pierre Campana. Neuville retired.

Sweden is a right place to judge him.

[Rallyper]

He still has no right to be slower than R5s, that's almost Al Qassimi and Serderidis level speed

You are embarassing yourself with so much ignorance, so no answer to the reply regarding the matter.

[EstWRC]

Suninen so wobbly on Evans place!

[T16]

I can't stand the doughnuts.

[jonkka]

https://www.redbull.com/int-en/tv/video/AP-1XUGGAJX91W11/super-stage-monte-carlo

For anyone who wants something a bit different from WRC+.

Thanks, they have knowledgeable commentators!

[mknight]

Tidemand is going ok, Sweden is where he should be judged. But as I wrote before I really hope he has more detailed plans for his future than "do 2 rounds and hope for sponsors".

Actually I don't think any driver here is doing significantly worse than expected in terms of pace, tire choices taken into account. Maybe Evans was.

Loeb might be doing worse than some expected relative to Neuville but quite a bit was due to the tirechoice on thrusday and in stagetimes he, Mikkelsen and Latvala were pretty much on exactly the same pace.
Lappi hard to judge, was good on thursday but then on wrong tires on friday morning, retirement due to a hit in cut and now engine.

[Simmi]

Disappointing that the coverage format is so rigid that they don't show any cars going over the top of the Col on this stage.

I wish they had more freedom to cut between what is interesting vs showing the first and final km for each car. Maybe to use split screen or picture in picture could be an answer.

[Mise]

At first his name is Tidemand. ;)

Many factors plays a role. Looking at stage times for Tidemand in RMC isn´t relevant.

Don't want to be mean or anything like that, but what do you
look at in rally if not stage times?

[Rallyper]

Don't want to be mean or anything like that, but what do
look at in rally if not stage times?

In this particular case no meaning. Try to find out yourself.

[EstWRC]

Tänaks gamble not paying off so much on this one. Loeb now taking back time from him.

[dimviii]

Loeb might be doing worse than some expected relative to Neuville

given the circumstances he is doing very good.

[Tauri_J]

Think Ogier has this covered tbh. Staying within a few secs with Neuville on tricky stages where C3 typically suffers. Then tomorrow it looks pretty much without snow/ice and he will just sail away.

We have Col de Turini tomorrow

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier beats Neuville who said he was on maximum.

Not a bad job he's doing in his new car.

[EstWRC]

just look at those times guys, so close! cant wait for Corsica or dry stages tomorrow?


whats the forecast and condition for stages tomorrow?

[steve.mandzij]

Amazing battles this rally. Tanak in comeback mode is sensational!

[Eli]

just look at those times guys, so close! cant wait for Corsica or dry stages tomorrow?


whats the forecast and condition for stages tomorrow?

11-12+ degrees and sunny, something like that.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So impressed with Gus Greensmith. Love his personality - so professional and level-headed.

[surdna]

Today Tänak took back from Loeb/Latvala +50s?

[EstWRC]

Today Tänak took back from Loeb/Latvala +50s?

https://www.ewrc-results.com/leg/52398-rallye-automobile-de-monte-carlo-2019/?leg=3

[ToughMac]

Ogier beats Neuville who said he was on maximum.

Not a bad job he's doing in his new car.

Would love to know how many changes and adjustments were made to the car over the winter. He's a multiple world champion so whatever weaknesses were in the car if any he is the guy to correct them.

[Norm75]

at mostly dry today stages toyota took at 1st stage 1-2, at second 1-2-4, and at third stage 1-2.
remember my thoughts at Tanaks tests pre Monte about yaris that was very impressive?https://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/oldforum/iconcool5lw.gif

all these happened while Ogier and Neuville fighting for the lead

I remember you saying Meeke looked slower than both Tanak and Latvala, and wouldn't be able to live with Tanaka pace. Barring the two broken rims, Kris has done very well imo, a little slower than Tanak on outright pace and classified behind Latvala, but given its his first event in the Yaris I think he has been much closer to Ott than expected.

[Eli]

Wait, they said Mikkelsen & Evans are out, is EP scheduled to return tomorrow or is he out as well?

[Tarmop]

Everyone, who retires today, isn`t allowed to start, wether they could or not.

[Tauri_J]

How's Col de Turini looking?

Ice, snow or dry?

[Eli]

Everyone, who retires today, isn`t allowed to start, wether they could or not.

So Ogier is left alone...hope they get a third car soon, will be tough for him & Lappi only throughout the season.

[mknight]

given the circumstances he is doing very good.

Yes, he is the definition of consistent performance and this is good.
My comment was aimed at those that thought he would win Monte easily and show Neuville how to drive the car.

[er88]

Impressed with Meeke's driving and pace considering his little time in the car. Tanak has had the upper hand, but some of the times have been really close and we know how superb Tanak is in that car. Plus Tanak has something to fight for still. Meeke's pace vs Latvala is pretty telling though - a driver on his debut rally with nothing to fight for, whereas Latvala is in a fierce battle for a podium in his 3rd season in the car, and has lost 40s to Kris today.

Jari just doesn't seem to have that outright raw speed he used to have years ago. He used to be able to beat anyone on a stage/rally if he was happy and driving to his best. Or it felt like that when he wasn't struggling mentally. Nowadays he just doesn't have that speed after years of being crushed by Ogier, and again last year with Tanak.

At least he's learned to be a bit more solid and get the car home though. Which proved valuable in the second half of last season to help Toyota win the manufacturers title

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Desborough said snow is forecast !?

[RS]

And that's it, the day is done before 3pm :(

[KKS]

Ogier beats Neuville who said he was on maximum.

Not a bad job he's doing in his new car.
0.2 sec it's more 'equal' rather than 'beats Neuville' ;)

[RS]

Disappointing that the coverage format is so rigid that they don't show any cars going over the top of the Col on this stage.

I wish they had more freedom to cut between what is interesting vs showing the first and final km for each car.

That is something Eurosport did really well when IRC had the Monte, it injected so much more drama into the footage

[EstWRC]

Impressed with Meeke's driving and pace considering his little time in the car. Tanak has had the upper hand, but some of the times have been really close and we know how superb Tanak is in that car. Plus Tanak has something to fight for still. Meeke's pace vs Latvala is pretty telling though - a driver on his debut rally with nothing to fight for, whereas Latvala is in a fierce battle for a podium in his 3rd season in the car, and has lost 40s to Kris today.

Jari just doesn't seem to have that outright raw speed he used to have years ago. He used to be able to beat anyone on a stage/rally if he was happy and driving to his best. Or it felt like that when he wasn't struggling mentally. Nowadays he just doesn't have that speed after years of being crushed by Ogier, and again last year with Tanak.

At least he's learned to be a bit more solid and get the car home though. Which proved valuable in the second half of last season to help Toyota win the manufacturers title

like i predicted in the crystal ball thread, i said that Meeke will be often the fastest Toyota and now after seeing him perform in Monte im even more sure about this.

pacewise so far he has been very impressive indeed.

On the other hand, it seems to me that the Yaris is a very good/neutral car that whoever steps in it will be fast right away.

[KKS]

So Ogier is left alone...hope they get a third car soon, will be tough for him & Lappi only throughout the season.
they have 3rd car and have a driver for it... Loeb. Ogier reject that he afraid that trueSeb beat him and not give position. That why - no 3rd car for Citroen this year.

[SubaruNorway]

Desborough said snow is forecast !?

Doesn't look like it will reach the area before the evening if you look at the radar, this is the start of Col De Turini
https://www.yr.no/sted/Frankrike/Provence-Alpes-C%C3%B4te_d%E2%80%99Azur/La_Boll%C3%A8ne-V%C3%A9subie/

[mknight]

Impressed with Meeke's driving and pace considering his little time in the car.



On the other hand, it seems to me that the Yaris is a very good/neutral car that whoever steps in it will be fast right away.

Yep, while impressive it's mostly telling on how the Yaris is.

We have seen Meeke vs Loeb in same car on tarmac, Loeb was faster in his first rally with that car on tarmac. Before that we saw Meeke vs Mikkelsen in same car, again Mikkelsen was faster in first tarmac rally.

Meeke was rarely slow in Monte in other cars (maybe you can count 2018, but he seemed to be playing it safe).

[EstWRC]

so the startlist tomorrow without Evans, Mikkelsen and Lappi is this ?

Tidemand
Suninen
Meeke
Tänak
Latvala
Loeb
Neuville
Ogier

[dimviii]

I remember you saying Meeke looked slower than both Tanak and Latvala, and wouldn't be able to live with Tanaka pace. Barring the two broken rims, Kris has done very well imo, a little slower than Tanak on outright pace and classified behind Latvala, but given its his first event in the Yaris I think he has been much closer to Ott than expected.
My post at pre Monte tests, relied at how Yaris behaved at dry tarmac,and today we saw at 4 stages, 4 times 1-2
yes at tests looked slower from Latvala and Tanak,but as you know Latvala is Latvala and you cant count on him about stability.
At one stage he can be fast,and at the next slow, with no explain from him why.
Tanak is much more steady,and Meeke was slower from him.Of course his pace is excellent, and very promising for the rest of the year.

[jonkka]

Surprise surprise - wrc.com got results working. For now at least, they'll break tomorrow again, I bet.

[Mintexmemory]

So impressed with Gus Greensmith. Love his personality - so professional and level-headed.
I wonder how many had even 1 of Greensmith, Bonato or Sarrazin (1place off) in their pickems?

[EstWRC]

flaaaaattt ouuutttt ss10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3BOL-dqlDQ

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx14mWtWkAA-kGP.jpg

[Mintexmemory]

they have 3rd car and have a driver for it... Loeb. Ogier reject that he afraid that trueSeb beat him and not give position. That why - no 3rd car for Citroen this year.
Fanboy bollocks - yes Ogier probably did veto Loeb signing but the Highlander principle applies - if you are the current 6 consecutive champ why dilute the focus of attention. SO learned well from SL

[Fast Eddie WRC]

He just has them both. The worst stage result he so far has in this rally is third.

12 stages gone and Ogier only fastest on 2 ...and leads.

Like last season where he had many fewer stage wins than Tanak and Neuville ...and was Champion.

Fast but limited risks and very few mistakes.

[denkimi]

At first his name is Tidemand. ;)

Many factors plays a role. Looking at stage times for Tidemand in RMC isn´t relevant.
there is only one thing that is relevant in rally, and that's stage times. all the rest are excuses.


you guys are too harsh on Tidemand...Monte is the hardest rally on calendar, his first kilometres with these beast of a car, what did you expect?

For example Tänak was 8th on his first outing in Monte and behind such a guy called Pierre Campana. Neuville retired.

Sweden is a right place to judge him.
its not tidemand's first monte, he was there in 2017.

there are no excuses to be slower in a wrc than someone with the same or even less experience in a r5 car. its just as hard and difficult for all the other drivers too.
his performance here is not going to help his career. he has not done a single good stage, he has made barely no progress. i didn't expect him to be on the podium, but to do at least a few good times.

[denkimi]

And that's it, the day is done before 3pm :(

its ridiculous. they have two days of rallysprint, and two days of small local rally.

they better had added thursday's evening stages to today. it still wouldn't be much, but at least it would look more like a decent world championship rally.

[Rallyper]

there is only one thing that is relevant in rally, and that's stage times. all the rest are excuses.


its not tidemand's first monte, he was there in 2017.

there are no excuses to be slower in a wrc than someone with the same or even less experience in a r5 car. its just as hard and difficult for all the other drivers too.
his performance here is not going to help his career. he has not done a single good stage, he has made barely no progress. i didn't expect him to be on the podium, but to do at least a few good times.

Sorry, shouldn´t answer this one either.

You have to look at whole Picture regarding Tidemand.

If you missed it I can tell you he said many times Before RMC he should only drive to learn the car. To be in as good positionas he could for RS.

With that in mind I´m not surprised at all. Also remember he has ONE shot at the beginning of 2019. That is RS.

After 2nd round, or rather, during, we can talk stagetimes. Or even overall...

Everyone continuing talking about Tidemand speed in RMC, please stop. You just make yourself a bit silly.

[SubaruNorway]

Remember that they need to drive 4 hours down to Monaco tonight.

Also better for Tidemand to finish with a whole car instead of using the budget on a wreck on the 1st event instead of more rounds, 8 was rumoured i think.

[EstWRC]

Neuville tonight: "Honestly, we also have to think about the championship, in this position it's not too bad. Not being first on the road in Sweden could be an advantage. " #WRC

[wia5958]

Yep, while impressive it's mostly telling on how the Yaris is.

We have seen Meeke vs Loeb in same car on tarmac, Loeb was faster in his first rally with that car on tarmac. Before that we saw Meeke vs Mikkelsen in same car, again Mikkelsen was faster in first tarmac rally.

Meeke was rarely slow in Monte in other cars (maybe you can count 2018, but he seemed to be playing it safe).

Your forgetting that loeb binned it after several stages hardly a fair comparisan. Again when compared to mikkelson you forget it was after he came back from being benched and probably told to get the car home. Try choosing comparasins where both drivers are going for it 100% and maybe you also forgot he was leading in corsica in 17 before engine failure and won in spain in 17 which is mostly tarmac. Loeb is also instantly quicker than mikkelson has been with barely a full days test in the car so does that say how good the hyundai is for an all time career psa driver to step in and be quicker or how bad mikkelson is?

[able1]

Neuville tonight: "Honestly, we also have to think about the championship, in this position it's not too bad. Not being first on the road in Sweden could be an advantage. " #WRC

if conditions are the same as last year , then even being 3rd on the road is a big disadvantage

[TanaKa]

Tanak with flower = Champion of truth

[TanaKa]

Neuville tomorrow should be the pilot that is presumed to be ,,, see if it's true ...

[steve.mandzij]

Impressed with Meeke's driving and pace considering his little time in the car. Tanak has had the upper hand, but some of the times have been really close and we know how superb Tanak is in that car. Plus Tanak has something to fight for still. Meeke's pace vs Latvala is pretty telling though - a driver on his debut rally with nothing to fight for, whereas Latvala is in a fierce battle for a podium in his 3rd season in the car, and has lost 40s to Kris today.

Jari just doesn't seem to have that outright raw speed he used to have years ago. He used to be able to beat anyone on a stage/rally if he was happy and driving to his best. Or it felt like that when he wasn't struggling mentally. Nowadays he just doesn't have that speed after years of being crushed by Ogier, and again last year with Tanak.

At least he's learned to be a bit more solid and get the car home though. Which proved valuable in the second half of last season to help Toyota win the manufacturers titleLatvala isn't consistently quick like he used to be, true, and what he's lost in outright pace he's made up well in consistency (never thought I'd say that) but, credit where credit is due, he still does have the speed. 2018 was a terrible year to benchmark him against, but he showed good speed in the second half of the season (ie Spain) and was especially level headed and calm tempered at his win in Australia. He's clearly no longer the team leader but instead of taking that pressure and putting it on top of him, like how he started 2018, he's now turned into a Sordo figure, who knows his limitations, and doesn't do the stupid shit he'd have done before.

When he is comfortable and in the zone, he's still a proper monster. He was quick today in Monte on stages 10 and 12 and had good speed at times yesterday too. All he needs to do is widen his operating window.

[Duvel]

I know it is just one rally, and still a lot can happen etc, etc,..
But so far Loeb is ideall wingman for Neuville and Hyundai.
Ok pure speed, Tanak is faster, he is behind Loeb because of bad luck, but you can count on Loeb to keep him behind.
And more important keep the car on the road!

Also, in my opinion we see a Neuville in "happy" mode this weekend. Perhaps this is more because of the Nandan out, Adamo in effect.
Mikkelsen is his friend, knowing Loeb is there to "help",.. all Hyundai drivers seem to get along pretty good. Mindset is very important!

[tommeke_B]

I think Neuville is simply happy because now he knows the speed of the Hyundai is good. Always a question at the start of every season, you don't know how much the other teams have progressed.

[Tarmop]

Not so sure about Loeb keeping Tänak behind at this rate. When the conditions are more ideal tomorrow, then probably yes...

[able1]

I want to see how fast toyotas are after they get those new differentials .

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville tonight: "Honestly, we also have to think about the championship, in this position it's not too bad. Not being first on the road in Sweden could be an advantage. " #WRC

Just as I said earlier.

[Tauri_J]

Desborough said snow is forecast !?

No snow before sundays night

[Fast Eddie WRC]

And that's it, the day is done before 3pm :(

Crazy. Just have to have a go myself ! ;)

https://i.imgur.com/oauj7Tu.jpg

[doubled1978]

Remember that they need to drive 4 hours down to Monaco tonight.

Also better for Tidemand to finish with a whole car instead of using the budget on a wreck on the 1st event instead of more rounds, 8 was rumoured i think.

Exactly this, I'm sure if Pontus could have chosen an event to do before Sweden to get used to the car, it wouldn't have been Monte, but the calendar gave him no choice. If he does what Evans did, he (Sponsors) are paying for it and he might never get to Sweden...honestly he has no real choice but to just use the time to get to know the car, trying to set good times will be at the absolute bottom of his list.
Also, as the event has been so bad for Ford, they may well all end up with good road positions in Sweden if the conditions are right.

[cali]

Didn't expect anything from Pontus and actually thought he would choose safe driving for this event. For me it seems as smart choice and he has upped his tempo a bit.

[spiderem]

WRC2 & WRC2pro are the same car spec correct?

[Tarmop]

Pretty much yes...factory car is a factory car like always.

[Mirek]

WRC2 & WRC2pro are the same car spec correct?

Right

[dimviii]

https://scontent.fath5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51090861_2287314854885189_8505240379543519232_n.jp g?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fath5-1.fna&oh=c5bbb2aa8e9a9e0e38e315189a2ad70c&oe=5CC13133
https://scontent.fath5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50628573_2287314864885188_179540533599797248_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent.fath5-1.fna&oh=9250e37e71914ef58ec65873bccad8e4&oe=5CB5497E
http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_01_2019/post-3242-0-83198700-1548517421.jpg

[dimviii]

Evans
https://youtu.be/oGdDy8f8A5c

[dimviii]

Neuville

"The Citroën on a clean and dry asphalt is certainly more competitive than our car, so it could be more complicated," said the Vice-World Champion, but the Col du Turini still has some surprises ... The goal is to finish in front of Ogier, Tanak is behind, it's not bad, but we will not take all the risks. "

https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_neuville-le-turini-reserve-toujours-des-surprises-mais-on-ne-prendra-pas-tous-les-risques?id=10129095&fbclid=IwAR0NsmMxb9tSvOn0kQ1FR9PlUpiS4pxINPZ3y5bri 9wCjxGZjirR4m11Dow

[dimviii]

different outside angle from Evans crash,it was a hard one..

https://youtu.be/niQ-21n2ZBo

[dimviii]

"The gaps are ultra low tonight, but we doubled our lead (from 2.0 seconds on Friday night to 4.3 seconds Saturday night, Ed), we will not complain," smiled Sebastien Ogier at the microphone Olivier Gaspard, RTBF's special correspondent for Monte-Carlo, I discover the car in all conditions, but in the past it has been effective on this type of road, I hope it will help us to win the race, but everything remains to be done, because with four seconds in advance, we do not have a lot of margin.The Turini, it stays different each time, there are always surprises.It will be good, we did not the more the choice! "

"Winning in our first race with the Citroën C3 WRC, it would be a very good recovery for us, took the six-time World Champion.We will do everything for, but I'm sure Thierry will not let go. two far ahead, we fight hard enough, but we must not be stupid either, we do not play the championship on this race.We must not do anything, a second place, it would still be a very good start to the season, for both of them, I will trust my feeling: if I feel good in the car, I will fight to get the victory, and if I see that it is delicate, you have to be smart, but I hope we will not be in this situation. "
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/rallye/wrc/detail_ogier-on-a-double-notre-avance-mais-les-ecarts-sont-faibles-il-ne-faudra-pas-etre-stupide?id=10129151

[dimviii]

Loeb atrracted plenty of fans

https://twitter.com/RevistaScratch/status/1089173498512240640

leg 3 michelin video
https://youtu.be/2Ng5nTF0spA

[dimviii]

rallyciak day 3
https://youtu.be/KRocksPK9ZA




WRC freak
‏
Im on the Col de Turini. There is no ice or snow. Impossible to tweet pics as no 3g or WIFI in the bars. @ACM_Media #wrc

[mknight]

Evans
https://youtu.be/oGdDy8f8A5c

Weird, from onboard it almost seems like he misjudged the corner rather than ice.

Anyway anyone seen any outside view of Tanak's moment from same spot or was if farther away?

For tomorrow, without any ice Ogier will easily keep lead. Loeb drop down behind Tanak or maybe even Latvala.

[dimviii]

video2rallyes83 video

nice spot at 2,31 min with Neuville?

[Ucci]

Loeb atrracted plenty of fans

https://twitter.com/RevistaScratch/status/1089173498512240640


Like Valentino Rosi in Moto GP

[dimviii]

tzrallye video day 3 ,nice spot!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1RWMviTAZA

[steve.mandzij]

Weird, from onboard it almost seems like he misjudged the corner rather than ice.

Anyway anyone seen any outside view of Tanak's moment from same spot or was if farther away?

For tomorrow, without any ice Ogier will easily keep lead. Loeb drop down behind Tanak or maybe even Latvala.Scott called out "sharp keep in" and it looked to me that Elfyn was too fast and didn't turn in enough. Maybe the keep in part got lost on the way.

[Myrvold]

if conditions are the same as last year , then even being 3rd on the road is a big disadvantage

And if it is anything like 2011,2012,2013,2014,2015,2016 or 2017. It will be no difference/advantage starting early...

[Rally Power]

I know it is just one rally, and still a lot can happen etc, etc,..
But so far Loeb is ideall wingman for Neuville and Hyundai.
Ok pure speed, Tanak is faster, he is behind Loeb because of bad luck, but you can count on Loeb to keep him behind.
And more important keep the car on the road!

Also, in my opinion we see a Neuville in "happy" mode this weekend. Perhaps this is more because of the Nandan out, Adamo in effect.
Mikkelsen is his friend, knowing Loeb is there to "help",.. all Hyundai drivers seem to get along pretty good. Mindset is very important!

Maybe he’s also happy (mostly relieved) for Loeb not being able to fight for the win on this rally. With a proper rest and more testing days in the i20, hopefully Loeb will be faster in Sweden; then we’ll see how good Loeb is as a wingman...

[dimviii]

Gary Boyd #BBP
‏

@KiwiWRCfan

Virtual Manufacturer #WRC points if positions remain unchanged to end of rally

33 Hyundai 18+15
25 Citroen 25+0
22 Toyota 12+10
14 MSport Ford 8+6

[doubled1978]

Maybe he’s also happy (mostly relieved) for Loeb not being able to fight for the win on this rally. With a proper rest and more testing days in the i20, hopefully Loeb will be faster in Sweden; then we’ll see how good Loeb is as a wingman...

Yeah I think he will be relieved Loeb hasn't come in and blown him away with a car that they have been complaining about on tarmac, but to be fair Neuville has been very good on this rally...just the small mistake which may ultimately cost him the win, but other wise very good.

[steve.mandzij]

Gary Boyd #BBP
‏

@KiwiWRCfan

Virtual Manufacturer #WRC points if positions remain unchanged to end of rally

33 Hyundai 18+15
25 Citroen 25+0
22 Toyota 12+10
14 MSport Ford 8+6We haven't even had a Sunday morning yet and these virtual standings have begun D:

[dimviii]

https://scontent.flgg1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50808947_1923030941156874_9183153748346667008_o.jp g?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.flgg1-1.fna&oh=093b32c256044bafbf4783f3a6e95d2f&oe=5CC82351

https://www.facebook.com/pg/rallypixels/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1918672471592721&__tn__=-U-R

[dimviii]

aa26racing video ss 9/11
https://youtu.be/0heyGzlWsrM

[NoFear85]

https://www.facebook.com/pg/fotoModlic/photos/?tab=album&album_id=10156967836277733

[RaunoK]

We haven't even had a Sunday morning yet and these virtual standings have begun D:

I'll have you know, Ott was virtual world champion 2019 after Thursday. Currently, Ogier holds the virtual title.

[dimviii]

nice spot/pass at 2,16 from the yellow 208
https://youtu.be/YeCJ-mbHerg

[dimviii]

WRC freak
‏

@FakeHinkelstein

Still not many spectators on the Col de Turini. The route via Sospel once the road closes takes hours from Gap. @ACM_Media #wrc #Rallyemontecarlo – στην τοποθεσία Hôtel Les Trois Vallées

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx3ORQQX4AAIN1H.jpg

[AnttiL]

Those who remember Monte history better: have this year's Sunday stages been driven ever in the earlier history of the rally in this form? I mean, rally-maps has everything after 2005: https://www.rally-maps.com/Rallye-Monte-Carlo-2019/La-Boll%C3%A9ne-V%C3%A9subie-Pe%C3%AFra-Cava . But looking at stage titles of past editions, it seems Turini was always driven from Sospel/Mouliet to La Bollene-Vesubie with the classic right-left on the Turini, meaning they only drove the beginning part of this year's stage into the opposite direction. The only exception seems 1998 when they did this year's route but in reverse.

And then the power stage of this year seems an even newer addition, with no matching stages in the history before 2005. It seems they've often done a stage from Lantosque or Loda to Luceram, which is near, but not sharing any route.

[AndyRAC]

That is something Eurosport did really well when IRC had the Monte, it injected so much more drama into the footage


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbNdGve5rQs&index=3&list=PL0WiURMa5w_-dRpaasxe2KbjDImIaWEg_

Here you go - the classic 2011 IRC Monte. Enjoy!!

[AnttiL]

Disappointing that the coverage format is so rigid that they don't show any cars going over the top of the Col on this stage.

I wish they had more freedom to cut between what is interesting vs showing the first and final km for each car. Maybe to use split screen or picture in picture could be an answer.

AFAIK it's a technical limitation. The cars have wireless transmitters with receivers in an aeroplane flying over the stage. The plane has only a certain range where it can receive a signal, and it usually doesn't cover the whole stage. Thus they can only receive signals from a certain area in the stage. But I don't know how and what they did in 2011.

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GlW2VZt3QQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyTBli5COBU

[T16]

Evans
https://youtu.be/oGdDy8f8A5c

Not sure if his pacenotes refer to the gear he should be in, but I’m pretty sure that corner was called as a 3 and he was in 6th.
If the above is correct (and like I said, I’m not 100% sure) then is it possible getting used to new co driver and getting the delivery of the notes more to his liking?
Bloody quick trip into the trees, no matter what the cause and glad they’re ok.

[er88]

Not sure if his pacenotes refer to the gear he should be in, but I’m pretty sure that corner was called as a 3 and he was in 6th.
If the above is correct (and like I said, I’m not 100% sure) then is it possible getting used to new co driver and getting the delivery of the notes more to his liking?
Bloody quick trip into the trees, no matter what the cause and glad they’re ok.Iirc Evans' pacenotes aren't reflective of the gear he should be in. A 1/2 left is a flat left basically, so a 3 is probably borderline whether 6th/5th gear. I may be wrong though.

[mknight]

Tanaks moment is from exactly same corner as Evans and aso looks very much the same, just a few tens of cms difference on the outcome. (from onboard). Note that Tanak was there before Evans.

[KKS]

Also better for Tidemand to finish with a whole car instead of using the budget on a wreck on the 1st event instead of more rounds, 8 was rumoured i think.
Any info which rally it could be?

[EstWRC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuFNb6cgOlg

[able1]

Tanaks moment is from exactly same corner as Evans and aso looks very much the same, just a few tens of cms difference on the outcome. (from onboard)

At least these kinds of moments don't affect his confidence much. I would shit myself halfway through that corner.

[N.O.T]

At least these kinds of moments don't affect his confidence much. I would shit myself halfway through that corner.

that is why you are you, and tanak is tanak...

you are reaching new heights in human intelligence....

[dimviii]

start list Sunday
http://acm.mc/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Start-List-for-Section-6-TC12E-Sunday-27th-January-2019.pdf

[steve.mandzij]

Tanaks moment is from exactly same corner as Evans and aso looks very much the same, just a few tens of cms difference on the outcome. (from onboard). Note that Tanak was there before Evans.The difference I saw on the onboards was that Tanak turned in earlier and harder/more aggressively. Evans was maybe a little too cautious and the ice threw him way off.

[AnttiL]

#Tyre info - Day 4 - SS13 - SS16

All Michelin @OfficialWRC drivers with 5 MICHELIN Pilot Sport Soft (S6)

[KKS]

finally we will see speed comparison in equal circumstances

[EstWRC]

Morning.

great battles ahead today. less than a hour left!

E: based on the tyre choice it must be basically bone dry then. Advantage for Ogier, and disadvantange for Ott to make up big time against Loeb and Latvala.

[er88]

Morning.

great battles ahead today. less than a hour left!

E: based on the tyre choice it must be basically bone dry then. Advantage for Ogier, and disadvantange for Ott to make up big time against Loeb and Latvala.Latvala 'shouldn't' lose his position to Ott in equal conditions/ same tyre choice, but who knows how he'll be mentally..

However Loeb has got this far up the leaderboard due to different tyre choices and his skill and feel driving in tricky conditions. He could struggle on tarmac in his first day in the Hyundai, but it depends if the Hyundai has improved on dry typical tarmac. Sordo and Neuville felt it had in Spain, but it is still very different from the Citroen it seems.

[dimviii]

good morning guys!!

krismeeke.com
‏Just getting some tips before we start the final day!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dx5j_DqXgAUDJv7.jpg

[Rallyper]

Morning dudes!

Latvala to let Tanak pass him today? You know, teamorders?

[EstWRC]

Ott even didnt go maximum...the understeer he had was horrible from heli shots

[er88]

Latvala going to be passed at this rate. Easy for Ott

[mknight]

Quite a of sliding going on from multiple cars.

[EstWRC]

Latvala also complaining about understeer

[Päss1928]

Morning dudes!

Latvala to let Tanak pass him today? You know, teamorders?

No need :D

[er88]

Got to question what Jari is all about here. Crushed by Ott who said he wasn't even doing anything special. And even slower than Meeke in his first stage on dry tarmac and he was saving tyres lol..

[KKS]

With this mindset, Latvala will crash today :(

[Rallyper]

Well, everyone complained about understeering. Colin could have told JML that.

[EstWRC]

Loeb also having understeer, everybody having understeer!

[er88]

Neuville fastest on the splits!!!!


Edit - lost a bit in the end

[EstWRC]

oh man the battles got even crazier now.


amazing

[mknight]

Huh, Tanak catching those ahead was expected, Ogier slower than Neuville totally wasn't. Looks stressed too.

[atsiotras79]

With top 5 fighting for position might be interesting how they approach the day concerning the position overall-power stage points balance...