[WRC] News & rumours (part III)

[Lundefaret]

Spectacle is going flatout in tight corners, not cars losing control. Higher safety with cars moving all over the place, like the arhaic gr. B? Really? Higher safety with mechanics in a hurry, forgetting to tighten bolts and nuts?

Regarding cars:

I think we must agree on that the more speed You carry when You go off the road, the more potential damage to the car and its inhabitants, no?

I think we also must agree that higher levels of grip, the more speed You carry when changing direction.

If we also agree that its the points of direction change that represents the highest risk of going of (turns.)

Then we can conclude with the fact that higher grip, equals higher speed in the risk areas, wich again equals more violent accidents.

There is a common misunderstanding in motorsport that to increese safety, You decreese engine power. This is the route that has been taken in rallying post group B.
This is not effective against getting speed down in corners, where speed is at its most dangerous.

To limit grip one have to regulate tires, suspension travel, and aerodynamic help.

Would limited grip cause the drivers to loose control? Off cource not. They would have better controll in the risk aereas beqause this would happen over a longer stretch of time (more time to react), and with lower speed.

Group B cars had their worst accidents on high grip surfaces, like Toivonen on the tarmac of Corsica, and during extremly high speed, like Vatanen in Argentina.
On gravel and snow their power vs grip factor was actually very good (safe), tough their construction was not (the placing of fuel tanks and so on.)
The modern day WRC car represents a higher risk, beqause of the higher speeds in the corners (even carrying the extra weight), but compensate some what by their much safer build.

Regarding mechanics:

I do not agree that the mechanics would suddenly forget to tighten bolts if they where part of the competition to an even higher extent. These are proffesional mechanics.

[BDunnell]

Spectacle is going flatout in tight corners, not cars losing control. Higher safety with cars moving all over the place, like the arhaic gr. B? Really? Higher safety with mechanics in a hurry, forgetting to tighten bolts and nuts?

All part of the challenge of the sport, surely?

I know I'm not alone in considering the current breed of WRC cars to be extremely dull precisely because they can look like they run on rails.

[wrc45]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6wEjQdxSTA

Amazing video of Rally Sardegna.

[rallyfun]

Do you really not know the difference? Why embarass yourself? When the loop is divided in several 20 km stages, tyres can cool down, also drivers rotate them several times. With one long stage they can go flatout, no tactics, no preserving.
Many offroad events do it and nobody complains.

The only way to make long stages without mid-stops is to use very hard tyres, and hard tyres mean less grip > less speed > less spectacle.

radiculous

[Francis44]

An FWD parody...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEi3PLeEARs

How much ignorance a man needs to write some BS like that...

Just a bit unfortunate that all of that footage is on tarmac, where FWD cars are actually able to be competitive at times. In a WRC championship where 80% of the events run on slippery surfaces, that formula would not go anywhere.

[AndyRAC]

Just a bit unfortunate that all of that footage is on tarmac, where FWD cars are actually able to be competitive at times. In a WRC championship where 80% of the events run on slippery surfaces, that formula would not go anywhere.

If it's a true World Championship - then surely it needs an more even split between surfaces; not mainly gravel. And adding more Tarmac events also makes it more 'road relevant'.

[nafpaktos]

@MNRally
In this week's MN: full details of a new plan for mid-stage tyre change 'pit stops' to spice up #WRC events. What do you think of the idea?
https://twitter.com/MNRally/status/479180696154820608

Stupid idea, they try to mimic f1 tactics in order to increase the tv numbers.they said that the pit stop could be to a village where spectators can watch the whole operation.i wonder who will go to see the pit stop and not an interesting corner?the answer is the irrelevant to our sport spectators.so the fia and the whole circus is not interested at all for the real rally funs.
Here a video of a pit stop from the group b era.notice the Peugeot that overtakes the lancia!!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=ay2bzaI1Qa4

P.S read the text which explains the procedure,it is under the video!

[Barreis]

They can go...
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114544

[Franky]

Stupid idea, they try to mimic f1 tactics in order to increase the tv numbers.they said that the pit stop could be to a village where spectators can watch the whole operation.i wonder who will go to see the pit stop and not an interesting corner?the answer is the irrelevant to our sport spectators.so the fia and the whole circus is not interested at all for the real rally funs.
Here a video of a pit stop from the group b era.notice the Peugeot that overtakes the lancia!!!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...&v=ay2bzaI1Qa4

P.S read the text which explains the procedure,it is under the video!

The link is fir the Viru Ralli 2014 massive BMW jump.

[nafpaktos]

Sorry!
Here ----->>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpNma9_7sNg&app=desktop