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    How do they regulate their performance since all have different approach? Monitoring fuel consumption?

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    It's quite complicated, there are many factors limiting the performance but they completely get rid of engine volume limit and restrictors. Basically they set an energy limit available during three rounds long period. I don't follow it closely so I can't tell You exact rules but the combination of many factors allow many combinations how to achieve similar result.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post


    Seriously the circus gets beyond stupidity...
    Mirekski if you had not come up with that, then I would have...
    As somebody said "WRC has definitely jumped the shark".

    What next? Reversing and parking under the clock?
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    FIA did a relatively good job with making R5/RRC/S2000 pretty much equal in speed. I think the deciding factor (in most events) still is the driver. Anyway, tired with Capito's desire to mess up our sport, like a politician, just wanting to change something, wanting to put a "stamp" on something, wether it's a good thing or not...

    But what concerns me most of all, is the lack of response to all this bullshit from other people closely involved in rallying. No public response from drivers, codrivers, team-managers, organizers etc to this shit. It's like nobody dares to say anything. Everybody is quietly complaining in stead of doing something about it (the moment is now!)...

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    I actually tweeted a few hours ago asking if any a Motorsport journalists were going to start asking questions about these stupid ideas. None of the current WRC journalists will ask tough questions - so I hope WRC fans who are Motoring journalists, and there are a few, will start asking.

    Is there a better sound than that of Porsche engined Flat-6 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by makinen_fan View Post
    And you thought that it could not get any more stupid, here it goes:
    http://www.autosport.com/news/report...medium=twitter

    They implemented the stupid remote service rule where you have mechanics but no spares for the car and now they thinking of introducing this... This is something that makes sense for cost cutting !! FIA and RBMH are morons in my view (sorry mods for the language)
    Did you read that stages will become 80 kilometers long?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowSon View Post
    Did you read that stages will become 80 kilometers long?
    What does it change? They have 2 spares these days in 100+ loop anyway and don't have to stop on stage to change them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyfun View Post
    What does it change? They have 2 spares these days in 100+ loop anyway and don't have to stop on stage to change them.
    Do you really not know the difference? Why embarass yourself? When the loop is divided in several 20 km stages, tyres can cool down, also drivers rotate them several times. With one long stage they can go flatout, no tactics, no preserving.
    Many offroad events do it and nobody complains.

    The only way to make long stages without mid-stops is to use very hard tyres, and hard tyres mean less grip > less speed > less spectacle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlowSon View Post
    Do you really not know the difference? Why embarass yourself? When the loop is divided in several 20 km stages, tyres can cool down, also drivers rotate them several times. With one long stage they can go flatout, no tactics, no preserving.
    Many offroad events do it and nobody complains.

    The only way to make long stages without mid-stops is to use very hard tyres, and hard tyres mean less grip > less speed > less spectacle.
    Hard tires > Less grip > less speed > MORE spectacle > higher safety

    Mid stage pit stops was one of Fiorios tactics on the Monte to challenge the 4WD Audis with the 2WD 037, and is nothing new.

    What I would like to see is the service/mechanics part be a part of the spectacle. Now it is a time limit on the service, but no gain if You finish earlier than Your limit. Why not let this be a part of the competition also?

    I would also like to see a return of the remote service. To prevent this being a speeding frenzy, one could regulate the service vans with time cards etc, so that they would be part of a rally whit in the rally.
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    Spectacle is going flatout in tight corners, not cars losing control. Higher safety with cars moving all over the place, like the arhaic gr. B? Really? Higher safety with mechanics in a hurry, forgetting to tighten bolts and nuts?

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