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    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    Because the cars needs to be in accordance with regulations and laws for road use, since they also drive on public roads. Especially Europe have so strict rules that crews often gets some ban or high penalties on road sections... But I think that is because the cars needs to be homologated and it's easier and way cheaper - each part needs to be homologated, and some of those are very crucial for road safety, that means manufacturer use some easier ways to get things through laws.
    That doesn't really make sense. It's FIA who homologates rally cars and part of the homologation is the cars will be able to drive on public roads. It doesn't matter if it's space frame car or Rally5.

    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    Also as a fan, I do like the idea, that the rally car should be road revelant.
    I will again argue with Dakar. The space frame cars looks nothing like the road cars they share name with. And fans doesn't care, they just see a Hilux winning, they don't car it has nothing to do with a Hilux they have at home. There are even prototypes that don't even resemble any road car like Audi or Dacia. There are some branded private project too, like Martin Prokop's old Raptor RS or this year there is VW Amarok. This should be available to do with WRC27 too (if FIA didn't change it yet), and make sense if the team/driver have a partnership with a local branch or a dealer.

    And then, there are privateer's cars like Century, MD Optimus, Red Lined, or these Chinese projects, that are acting as their own brands. Sure, some people can argue that it would be better if they were branded by some automaker, by why would they do that, when they have no connection to them? I don't care if they look like cars I can see on road or not, better competition is much more important.

    Also doing this can show that the privateer company is good and at a chance from some manufacturer, just as it happened in Dakar with Prodrive and Dacia.

    Quote Originally Posted by deephouse View Post
    Having excuse it's all because just for safety reasons, it's stupid, because the latest deadly crash happen directly in too expensive space-frame non-sense
    This just doesn't work as argument, at all. If you talk abou Breen, that was purely unlucky, it would end the same in every car. The safety cell that is in the use is designed mainly to improve in front impact and side impact.

    Also unfortunately, Breen's crash wasn't the "latest deadly crash". There are multiple deadly crashes every year. And these also happens in Rally2s and Rally4s, not just in some older group a cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth View Post
    I will again argue with Dakar. The space frame cars looks nothing like the road cars they share name with. And fans doesn't care, they just see a Hilux winning, they don't car it has nothing to do with a Hilux they have at home. There are even prototypes that don't even resemble any road car like Audi or Dacia. There are some branded private project too, like Martin Prokop's old Raptor RS or this year there is VW Amarok. This should be available to do with WRC27 too (if FIA didn't change it yet), and make sense if the team/driver have a partnership with a local branch or a dealer.

    And then, there are privateer's cars like Century, MD Optimus, Red Lined, or these Chinese projects, that are acting as their own brands. Sure, some people can argue that it would be better if they were branded by some automaker, by why would they do that, when they have no connection to them? I don't care if they look like cars I can see on road or not, better competition is much more important.

    Also doing this can show that the privateer company is good and at a chance from some manufacturer, just as it happened in Dakar with Prodrive and Dacia.
    Dakar has always been like that, since the first edition in 1979. Buggies, protos, cars that are named the same as the road version but only barely resembled them (Citroen ZX Grand Raid, Mitsubishi Pajero T3), they're part of Dakar. And by the way, I did read comments praising the Hilux as a "real" car compared to the Dacia or Audi buggies. We do know the Dakar Hilux has probably more in common with the Dacia Sandrider than with the road going Hilux, but many more casual fans don't. Just like the Pajero is remembered as this legendary Dakar competitor, the Schlesser buggy not that much.

    You're saying WRC, that never had these, should start adopting them. I don't agree, to me it's a step too far outside WRC's nature. And in my opinion many fans won't like seeing Prodrive vs BRR vs X-Raid vs Abt protos in WRC...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenneth View Post
    That doesn't really make sense. It's FIA who homologates rally cars and part of the homologation is the cars will be able to drive on public roads. It doesn't matter if it's space frame car or Rally5.
    FIA homologation doesn't make a car road-legal, it only makes it FIA-legal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wyler View Post
    probably hiunday hasn't a suitable ice.
    Then Hyundai can build a suitable ICE by following the specific chapter that tells you how to build an engine for the championship and all the information is clearly written down. No production engine required, according to Tom Fowler.

    Tom has a WRC2027 project in his hands and TGR have committed to the series, and Toyota don't flip-flop on strategies globally, they're solid. And then there is Cyril, HMSG and Hyundai. I know who I choose to believe.

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