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    Have you heard that there is some guy in France who built a prototype Toyota Yaris Rally2 Kit?
    https://rallyandrace.pl/toyota-yaris...PavDJPDZwpBLCk
    http://www.rallymadness.prv.pl - rally photos and movies!

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    It's not a prototype. Everybody can build and homologate Rally2 Kit/R4.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarek Z View Post
    Have you heard that there is some guy in France who built a prototype Toyota Yaris Rally2 Kit?
    https://rallyandrace.pl/toyota-yaris...PavDJPDZwpBLCk
    This belongs to "R4 news and results" discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mknight View Post
    I wonder how much of an improvement you really can get in R5s lately.

    Sure todays R5s are something else than first Fiesta R5 all those years ago. But when looking at the very top of the cars that are known to work well there doesn't seem to be much difference.

    When Polo came it seemed like a bit of a step up for a moment, but then within 4-6 months over multiple rallies it somehow looked equal to Fabia (Evo) again. Similar with C3 that started good on tarmac and terrible on gravel and now it looks somehow similar to Fabia and Polo. (I purposely avoid I20 which seems to do very well a few times and then terrible next...)

    Is it that everyone is closing up to the limit of regulations?
    This is an interresting question.
    If you have a R5 from Ford, Skoda, VW or Hyundai that has gotten all upgrades along the way.
    How much slower are they than a new Rally2 car woth all their bells and whistles?

    My impression is that a top notch driver can still do well in a well maintained Fiesta or Fabia from 2013/14 with all jokers onboard.
    Maybe not in WRC, but at least in national/regional series and maybe also in ERC.

    That is the best evidence of success of the formula of the R5/Rally2 cars.
    Rally3 follows in the same path, and will hopefully be as successful when we look back in 8-10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    This belongs to "R4 news and results" discussion.
    But it’s called Rally2 Kit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS View Post
    But it’s called Rally2 Kit?
    That's just a new R4 name under the new system.
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Because R4 would be too confusing with Rally4, which now has the R2 and R3 cars. It's a mess...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dupanton View Post
    Because R4 would be too confusing with Rally4, which now has the R2 and R3 cars. It's a mess...
    Rally4 doesn´t have R3(T) cars.

    RC4 has R2(T), R3(T) and Rally4 cars
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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    This belongs to "R4 news and results" discussion.
    You were the one telling us to use the new official FIA class names, no?

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