M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

[AnttiL]

Good article about M-Sport's current situation and future in the WRC.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/why-m-spo...shot-for-2022/

[AnttiL]

Older was way cheaper...

I think there was also some restrictions on where to run the 2017 WRC cars, including the rule in 2017 that the cars must always be entered by a factory team.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good article about M-Sport's current situation and future in the WRC.

https://dirtfish.com/rally/why-m-spo...shot-for-2022/

Have a read all you armchair experts constantly slagging off the team and it's drivers and get into the real world.

[T16]

Have a read all you armchair experts constantly slagging off the team and it's drivers and get into the real world.

Haven’t read it yet Eddie, but whatever it says, it’s not going to make your boy Gus any faster.
Or fast at all, for that matter.

[EstWRC]

whats the deal here lately with some members getting offensive or personal when others have a different opinion.

[AnttiL]

Have a read all you armchair experts constantly slagging off the team and it's drivers and get into the real world.

So you're a professional rally driver and not an armchair expert?

I've been saying all along I was happy to see Suninen being on the pace, meaning the Fiesta can still challenge the other cars.

I still don't think Greensmith will ever challenge anyone.

I think we all here love M-Sport.

[doubled1978]

whats the deal here lately with some members getting offensive or personal when others have a different opinion.

Internet rules. In the real world those guys usually find out the hard way they were talking when they should have been listening.
Simply being polite and accepting the opinions of others is a basic sign of being an adult, these days the internet allows to much to hide behind.

[mknight]

Have a read all you armchair experts constantly slagging off the team and it's drivers and get into the real world.

I don't see why you need to have a tone like this, but that was mentioned already.

Thing is, I don't remember anyone saying they don't understand MSport situation. But that doesn't mean we are and should be happy about it.

In the article there isn't really much new compared to what has been discussed here forever.

Sure they write off this season to focus on 2022 development, that's perfectly understandable.

What is a bit less understandable is how Malcom is seemingly totally convinced they have a top car atm and only miss a driver. From the outside it is very hard to see much proof of that, (almost) one stage in massive rain...and before that rarely any top speed in 2020. If he really thinks that it shows what he thinks about Suninen and Lappi. I think that he either just talks up his product or means that if he had driver and money for development they could be up there.

That leads to the next point discussed in detail here. To get top car for 2022 they might need an experienced driver at some point in development, but more importantly need to attract a top driver for 2022. The last part Wilson say they will try. Might be interesting silly season then since afaik both Tanak and Neuville are out of contract.

Finally what I voiced is how do they motivate the team when all they get is crash on first stage and Greensmith behind Rally2 cars. That actual does seem to be a problem since also he mentioned how they worked so hard to get to Monte. What people here suggested is that MSport could have one top driver to show the car speed without having to pay. Malcolm says that would need "x millions of pounds". I find it hard to believe that drivers like Meeke, Mikkelsen, Paddon or Lappi would ask for that for a few stats or even a season this year. From Suninen and Lappis comments it rather seems it's Malcolm asking those sums from them.

[AnttiL]

What people here suggested is that MSport could have one top driver to show the car speed without having to pay. Malcolm says that would need "x millions of pounds". I find it hard to believe that drivers like Meeke, Mikkelsen, Paddon or Lappi would ask for that for a few stats or even a season this year. From Suninen and Lappis comments it rather seems it's Malcolm asking those sums from them.

It's not just the driver salary, but what it costs to run the car throughout the season. This is what the current M-Sport drivers are more or less funding by themselves, in addition to paying their own salary.

[cali]

I'm a big M-Sport fan but not necessarily Greensmith fan. I also understand why it is how it is at the moment but stating these things doesn't make Gus any faster. My all hopes are laid to engine upgrade, Fourmaux and Suninen. We all know Gus isn't there because of his raw talent.

It's painful to see what M-Sport goes through atm but hoping for the best in 2022 and Tänak (or even both Tänak and Neuville) behind the wheel of a Ford once again as we all know Hyundai could be still leaving the sport.

Being a fan though doesn't mean you lose your head and judgement (yes, I'm looking at you Eddie)

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