M-Sport Ford World Rally Teams

[Andre Oliveira]

It looks Tuohino can drive himself.

[djip]

Very valid pont. At first i wondered why on earth would MSport register this year if they were to concentrate on the new 2022 car - a few events here and there would have been enough. If indeed they are breakeven with their current line-up, so why not ?
Howezver I am really uhsure now that they will even make it to 2022's top class. Someone said in this thread that WRC1 was Malcolm's vanity project - it may be true. Business-wise MSport would be better off concentrating on regaining its market share for the lower classes. This has been eroding slowly, with a high acceleration lately. Not good when you run a business ! focus on your fundamentals !

[AnttiL]

Very valid pont. At first i wondered why on earth would MSport register this year if they were to concentrate on the new 2022 car - a few events here and there would have been enough. If indeed they are breakeven with their current line-up, so why not ?
Howezver I am really uhsure now that they will even make it to 2022's top class. Someone said in this thread that WRC1 was Malcolm's vanity project - it may be true. Business-wise MSport would be better off concentrating on regaining its market share for the lower classes. This has been eroding slowly, with a high acceleration lately. Not good when you run a business ! focus on your fundamentals !

To get P1 status, M-Sport must enter all rallies with two cars. If they would do just a few events here and there they would probably not be shown on TV?

[denkimi]

Yes, as I said 'top teams'

But all teams get tens of millions.

In formula one teams pay an entry fee based on the amount on points they collected last year. The more points, the more they pay the year after.

But they get money according to their position in the constructors standings and some other deals they made in the past.

Ferrari gets about 200 million, while torro rosso "only" got 52 million.

So even the smallest f1 teams have the same or bigger budgets than the biggest wrc teams.

That is why i keep saying we have to get rid of the need for manufacturers approval. Everyone should be able to build a wrc car, as long as its according to the rules. Not just official car manufacturers, who often have different goals and interests.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

On the Dirtfish video summary of RMC, David Evans stated M-Sport cannot afford any more big crashes as they dont have many more WRC chassis' available.

Knowing this situation wont make it any easier for their drivers to push to the limit this year.

I also wonder if this is why they didnt put the upgraded engines in yet in case they got destroyed so early in the year ?

[Andre Oliveira]

https://www.ewrc-results.com/cars-ow...fiesta-wrc-17/

#1 M-Sport
#2 Lorenzo Bertelli
#3 M-Sport
#4 M-Sport
#5 OT Racing
#6 JanPro Racing
#7 M-Sport
#8 M-Sport
#9 M-Sport
#10 Armando Pereira
#11 Destroyed
#12 R+ SPORT

[abcrally]

Where you got this info? Suninen wasn´t sure in Monte when spoke to Finnish media?

Info from reliable source.
Like I mentioned 3 or 4 Fiesta WRC's. Tuohino will drive with his own car if he can't get it rented. If good customer will show up then Tuohino will drive in Arctic with 'some other rally car'👍

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://www.ewrc-results.com/cars-ow...fiesta-wrc-17/

#1 M-Sport
#2 Lorenzo Bertelli
#3 M-Sport
#4 M-Sport
#5 OT Racing
#6 JanPro Racing
#7 M-Sport
#8 M-Sport
#9 M-Sport
#10 Armando Pereira
#11 Destroyed
#12 R+ SPORT

Just 12 in total... what a difference compared to the original Fiesta WRC:

In it's five years (2011-2016) there were 25 works Fiesta WRC's and 62 built in total. Yes, 62 !

https://www.ewrc-results.com/carinfo...-rrc/?car=1456

[Andre Oliveira]

54. The 61 and 62 numeration was different.

[pantealex]

Just 12 in total... what a difference compared to the original Fiesta WRC:

In it's five years (2011-2016) there were 25 works Fiesta WRC's and 62 built in total. Yes, 62 !

https://www.ewrc-results.com/carinfo...-rrc/?car=1456

Older was way cheaper...

With same price newer one would also sell god amounts

I believe situation is same with R5 compared to Rally2, older was way more popular