[WRC] News & rumours (part IV) 2016

[Franky]

But can VW shrink their costs to the level of M-Sport to be profitable? About a decade ago, I think Citroen was a lot more expensive to rent than Ford. So you can imagine that VW would be at least on the same level as Citroen, when it comes to pricing.

[tomhlord]

Biggest news for me here is the quote from FXD that they are trying to make it happen. Two direct VW sources saying it is a possibility. Very interesting.

Indeed. Intriguing. Would fit in with their shift towards customer racing a la 2016 Polos, TCR and R5 too.

Now perhaps time to remember that Nasser's backer is the 3rd largest VAG shareholder.

[denkimi]

But can VW shrink their costs to the level of M-Sport to be profitable? About a decade ago, I think Citroen was a lot more expensive to rent than Ford. So you can imagine that VW would be at least on the same level as Citroen, when it comes to pricing.

the big question is if they really want to be profitable, or if it's only a big marketing show.

[Rallyper]

Marketing without costlimits is history for VW. Profitable marketing like MSport might be what they are changing to. And maybe that´s what they didn´t think of initially this autumn, but changed their minds into after a rethink?

[Franky]

the big question is if they really want to be profitable, or if it's only a big marketing show.

Being called Qatar World Rally Team or sth isn't exactly marketing for VW.

[tommeke_B]

Being called Qatar World Rally Team or sth isn't exactly marketing for VW.

Well... If it wins it's still a VW Polo. Nobody calls the Ford Fiesta WRC the "M-Sport Fiesta WRC", it's team M-Sport, but still a Ford. Ford probably has the best return (visibility in all championships around the world) on investment (probably almost nothing compared to other manufacturers).

[Franky]

Well... If it wins it's still a VW Polo. Nobody calls the Ford Fiesta WRC the "M-Sport Fiesta WRC", it's team M-Sport, but still a Ford. Ford probably has the best return (visibility in all championships around the world) on investment (probably almost nothing compared to other manufacturers).

Well, Ford's logos get nearly as much space as Red Bull on the VWs, so I'd say Ford is very present in M-Sport's budget.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

If they dont get Ogier does anyone else think M-Sport should bring in Mikkelsen ? I do.

Or is Tanak good enough to lead the team in 2017 ?

[tc10a]

Latvala - Toyota
Mikkelsen - M-Sport
Ogier - "Private" VW

would be very nice solution in the end

[OnlyRally]

If they dont get Ogier does anyone else think M-Sport should bring in Mikkelsen ? I do.

Or is Tanak good enough to lead the team in 2017 ?

Mikkelsen for sure is the future. What he did in Australia with that road position was amazing. He has had his crashes, but so did Ogier before the VW era.


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