Donkey of the Race UAE

[Bagwan]

If the driver in the other same car (the best car on the grid no less) can't get anywhere near to try to overtake, I'd like to know how the chuff anyone else was gonna do it. If Paddy couldn't work that out for himself, he has no place to be in that team calling those team orders.

Lewis wanted Nico to be overtaken by two cars, then he'd just feck off into the distance and win by 30s or so......

Didn't happen of course, Seb was worried about a German backlash, Danny Ric was nowhere, and Verstappen had other cars to pass which took the best out of the tyres.

Still, Lewis tried something. Win some, lose some.

It was a little like going through the motions , giving the instruction , but consider the fact that the Merc is well-known to have trouble in dirty air .
Both the Red car and especially the Bull car don't , and weren't far behind .
The red car had a frustrated , mouthy German who had just been out-qualified over the course of the year by some old Finn .
That Bull car behind him had a crazy little Dutch boy who will find grip anywhere , and isn't afraid to try fun , new ideas for overtaking .

Sure , it's easy to say he'd get away without a scratch , but Lewis did as much as he thought he could get away with , and it was a masterful drive , in that respect .

They warned him that he needed to speed up .
He told them he knew what he was doing .

Perhaps if he had started backing him up a few laps earlier , he might have had more chance to make something happen behind , but it was a good try regardless .

Something I didn't like hearing , was the eventual WDC whining about the situation over the radio . Gladly , there wasn't too much of it .

[Nitrodaze]

It was a little like going through the motions , giving the instruction , but consider the fact that the Merc is well-known to have trouble in dirty air .
Both the Red car and especially the Bull car don't , and weren't far behind .
The red car had a frustrated , mouthy German who had just been out-qualified over the course of the year by some old Finn .
That Bull car behind him had a crazy little Dutch boy who will find grip anywhere , and isn't afraid to try fun , new ideas for overtaking .

Sure , it's easy to say he'd get away without a scratch , but Lewis did as much as he thought he could get away with , and it was a masterful drive , in that respect .

They warned him that he needed to speed up .
He told them he knew what he was doing .

Perhaps if he had started backing him up a few laps earlier , he might have had more chance to make something happen behind , but it was a good try regardless .

Something I didn't like hearing , was the eventual WDC whining about the situation over the radio . Gladly , there wasn't too much of it .

I think it is all a storm in a tea cup really. Hamilton just wanted to make Nico sweat really, just make it a little difficult but not difficult enough for him to lose a place. Because he pulled him out of trouble by giving him a tow when it seemed he was going to get into trouble from behind. Vettel said he could not pass Rosberg because Hamilton was at a distance to give Nico a tow which made it hard for him to mount an attack.

If Hamilton really wanted to make the overtake happen, he would have slowed considerably at the corners to really bunch up the cars on the entry to the corner, which would have really given Vettel or possibly Verstapenn a real chance to attack Rosberg.

Hamilton slowed down just enough to make Rosberg and the Mercedes pitwall nervous, just to make a point.

[donKey jote]

I do love how some Europeans say good riddance but have been happy with UK money along with France and Germany propping up the money pot for so long lol. I voted Remain but now fully support full Brexit off the back of how childish some nations have been. Good riddance indeed.

I've been more than happy to prop up the money pot (including Thatcher's rebate) personally all my tax paying life, as a German resident for the last 21 years and more recently as a German national lol
So good riddance, yes, I'm glad we can agree on something for a change

Blaming Hamilton's mishaps solely on "the Germans" is a tad jingoistic in my view, but hardly something I wouldn't expect from certain "true Brits" here. Other true Brits like Jackie Stewart or your Nige weren't so quick to defend his tactics in this race, for example.


Anyway, before I go too far off topic... As for donkey of the race, somewhat predictably I'd say Hamilton: either you do it properly (i.e. back up so much that the -somewhat dirty and unsportsmanlike but perfectly legal and legitimate- tactics work, and take the championship) or you race off into the distance and lap the German buggers to prove your point, with a couple of donuts before the finish line for good measure. Unfortunately, the way it ended was neither here nor there.

[Tazio]

Hannibal's ancient

battle of Zarma]
where he was routed by the Romans led by Scipio!

[henners88]

I've been more than happy to prop up the money pot (including Thatcher's rebate) personally all my tax paying life, as a German resident for the last 21 years and more recently as a German national lol
So good riddance, yes, I'm glad we can agree on something for a change

You're the first German I've encountered with such a bitter attitude. If Germany follow us I hope the good relationship between our nations continues despite some of our residents worrying about pride being dented.

Blaming Hamilton's mishaps solely on "the Germans" is a tad jingoistic in my view, but hardly something I wouldn't expect from certain "true Brits" here. Other true Brits like Jackie Stewart or your Nige weren't so quick to defend his tactics in this race, for example.

I don't share the view the Germans wanted Nico to win. The only thing German about the team is it's name.


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[The Black Knight]

I think it is all a storm in a tea cup really. Hamilton just wanted to make Nico sweat really, just make it a little difficult but not difficult enough for him to lose a place. Because he pulled him out of trouble by giving him a tow when it seemed he was going to get into trouble from behind. Vettel said he could not pass Rosberg because Hamilton was at a distance to give Nico a tow which made it hard for him to mount an attack.

If Hamilton really wanted to make the overtake happen, he would have slowed considerably at the corners to really bunch up the cars on the entry to the corner, which would have really given Vettel or possibly Verstapenn a real chance to attack Rosberg.

Hamilton slowed down just enough to make Rosberg and the Mercedes pitwall nervous, just to make a point.

I agree with that. I thought he could have slowed more at times and kept position so I was surprised that he didn't.

This incident is not all that different from Japan 97 where Eddie Irvine held up Jacques Villeneuve to enable Michael Schumacher to win the race and bring the title down to the wire. It's the sort of thing that makes interesting (and one of the only things nowadays) so certainly shouldn't be frowned upon. Mercedes got a 1-2 in the end and got their German champ so they can't be that upset.

[donKey jote]

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You're the first German I've encountered with such a bitter attitude. If Germany follow us I hope the good relationship between our nations continues despite some of our residents worrying about pride being dented.

Bitterness doesn't really describe the sense of loss and betrayal I felt as a EU citizen of British/Irish/Spanish heritage with long time residency in Germany
I do admit I tend to overreact to uncalled for expressions of nationalism (from whichever country)...must be the donkey blood in me
In fact the main reason for me applying for German citizenship was to counter the xenophobic disguised as nationalistic anti-EU pegidonkeys here... but I digress, as usual...

I don't share the view the Germans wanted Nico to win. The only thing German about the team is it's name.

I take it you mean the Germans (including Austrians ) in the team... I agree again on both counts

[driveace]

Rosberg says its a storm in a teacup ,and he fully understands why Hamilton was trying to do ,and he understands why.He says Lewis has been a brilliant team mate ,and one of the best drivers out there today ,if not the best
As regards Brixit and it being a sore point with dk ,just get used to it as Italy,France and Holland could offer a referendum to their countrymen in the next 2 or 3 years.
And no German F1 race next year why ? Brexit, Trump The world is changing and the people now realize they have been taken for a ride for far too long by the people who promised us what we needed but once elected voted for their personal likes rather than the views and needs of those who elected them .The Donkey was Mercedes and Toto and Paddy They got the both results they wanted For Christs sake let these guys RACE !

[Zico]

Rosberg says its a storm in a teacup ,and he fully understands why Hamilton was trying to do ,and he understands why.He says Lewis has been a brilliant team mate ,and one of the best drivers out there today ,if not the best
As regards Brixit and it being a sore point with dk ,just get used to it as Italy,France and Holland could offer a referendum to their countrymen in the next 2 or 3 years.
And no German F1 race next year why ? Brexit, Trump The world is changing and the people now realize they have been taken for a ride for far too long by the people who promised us what we needed but once elected voted for their personal likes rather than the views and needs of those who elected them .The Donkey was Mercedes and Toto and Paddy They got the both results they wanted For Christs sake let these guys RACE !

Well said.

Off topic- I also don't understand why brexit is a sore point for anyone outside the UK although I can of course see why it has caused divides here.
If any other nation voted to leave instead of us, I wouldn't have taken it personally... and that's coming from someone who's ancestors were French/Belgian.

Bizarre!

[COD]

Had I been Nico, I would have tried the overtake. If Lewis tried to block in stupid way, just punt the ballerina off. Had they both retired, Nico would still be champion. He opted for the gentlemans way, I would not have