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    Quote Originally Posted by N.O.T View Post
    It is not about bluff, it is about professionalism.

    You are a manufacturer rally team representing a multibillion company, no matter how good a driver is you cannot diseregard protocol. The drivers must want to drive for you not the opposite.

    M-sport is a private business and Wilson will only sign Ogier if the whole deal is profitable for him.

    Toyota is run by a bunch of amateurs and their only concern is probably to just drain the company of its sources and then flop.

    Citroen is doing the right thing.
    Yep, i agree, Hyundai also didn't get Neuville a taste of the new generation car until he signed a new contract. As for M-Sport and Toyota i think it's normal for them to have a driver like Ogier to test the car, for sure the feedback, how small it maybe will be after a (short) test, both teams will be pleased about it.
    Hyundai has a strong driver line-up and i don't think there would anything changed, perfect for them would be Latvala in a fourth car in rally's like Sweden, Poland and Finland (and to be nominated and not Sordo).
    If Citroën is smart they get Mikkelsen and switch between Breen and Lefebvre for the third car.
    Last edited by jacko; 24th November 2016 at 15:50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    They are actually expanding their current facilities, atleast there is some construction going on.
    😉 Thought so...
    "San Romolo opettaa"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Essaj View Post
    They are actually expanding their current facilities, atleast there is some construction going on.
    but not building any new "houses", just doing more space in 1 of current ones.
    "quattro best 4wd rallycar ever"

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    Quote Originally Posted by pantealex View Post
    but not building any new "houses", just doing more space in 1 of current ones.
    I personally don't see any problem with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
    That could be the case if we’re talking about an average driver, but we aren’t. Like Loeb, and a few others motorsport greatest, Ogier is a living legend and any team must do everything to get him. It’s a shame mass media don’t give a sh.. to rally, otherwise this Ogier situation would be in all TV’s and newspapers. Do you imagine Ronaldo training on the top 4 foot teams before signing for one of them?
    Who is Ronaldo?
    Never stop dreaming because one day it might happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Franky View Post
    Who is Ronaldo?
    Come on! You do not know who is Ronaldo?
    He is Portugese codriver:
    http://ewrc-results.com/coprofile.ph...onaldo-Marques
    Colins Crest = Möldri Mätas

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluuford View Post
    Come on! You do not know who is Ronaldo?
    He is Portugese codriver:
    http://ewrc-results.com/coprofile.ph...onaldo-Marques
    Why on earth he is forbidden to train with 4 different teams?

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    About Ogier in Toyota: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/127257

    Volkswagen refugee Sebastien Ogier tested the Toyota Yaris WRC on Wednesday, Autosport can confirm.

    The Frenchman joined the Toyota test in Spain, where he drove the car on wet asphalt and on gravel.

    Team principal Tommi Makinen told Autosport: "Yes, it's true. Sebastien did come and test the car yesterday [Wednesday], but I can't tell you anything more than that at the moment.

    "Of course, we are talking."
    Ogier is reported to have been offered a contract worth €10m (Ł8.5m), with Latvala also reported to have a contract on the table with the Puuppola-based team.

    Makinen dismissed such speculation saying: "Like I said, we are talking to the drivers, but we didn't make the offer yet.

    "The problem we have is for the car availability.

    "We will run with just the two cars until the spring time and Juho [Hanninen] will be driving on all of the rallies."

    Having sampled the Toyota, Ogier will test a Ford Fiesta RS WRC in Cumbria on Friday.

    Ogier's chances of driving a Citroen and Hyundai look to be dwindling, with both the French and Korean manufacturers struggling to find a way to bring him to their teams neither is keen to allow the four-time champion aboard their 2017 cars.
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    The situation is very simple: the only way for M-Sport or Toyota to get Ogier is to allow him to test the car before signing the contract. If they didn't do it, he wouldn't even talk to them and would already be at Citroen.
    Viola ad oltranza...

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