Rally Portugal 2016

[TURBO43]

Here is my video of Portugal 2016

With drone shootage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPLrt7MFaoQ

[stefanvv]

Also, you have to consider that on tarmac events running first will be huge advantage.

I don't find that exciting either, it is even worse scenario.

[stefanvv]

So according to your own words we should let Usain Bolt run 90m and the rest of the field 100m? Just because he is Usain Bolt (in our case Ogier)?

No, I just wont watch such sport

[cali]

No, I just wont watch such sport

Jeez, what's the solution then? Organizers have to sweep the roads before each pass?

[Rally Power]

We all probably agree on the essential: current starting order rules aren’t needed anymore. They were made to limit VW and Ogier dominance but now competitors are clearly showing they’ve progressed and the technical gap that existed since 2014 is being closed.

Meeke and Paddon wins are no longer lucky wins like those of Neuville in ’14 Germany or the Scott last year in Argentina. In this year MC and Sweden they were already matching Ogier pace and that came as a surprise to almost everyone (including VW guys). After Argentina and Portugal there are very few doubts left.

The funny thing is that VW staff just can’t accept it. It’d be pretty simple for them to say openly the obvious: look, these rules doensn’t makes sense anymore because we’re no longer superior, our competitors have managed to progress.

Admitting this is probably too much for VW’s proudly German ego and ironically they’re hurting themselves by not doing it in a clear way. Instead they’ve come out with the 2wd lines issue in Argentina and now in Portugal they’re saying there’s a problem about random entries of top competitors.

It sounds ridiculous and almost gives us the will to see them suffer a bit longer, but honestly the rules aren’t fair anymore even for Hyundai and Citroen: with these starting order issues they can’t claim undoubtedly that their wins are a deserved compensation for their development work or their drivers improved skills, as they truly are.

[dimviii]

I don't find that exciting either, it is even worse scenario.

but didnt hear ever Ogier moaning about this.
He likes to have advantage,but dont like when he hasnt .He wants all for his favour.
We are talking about a driver that in interviews have said, that he is trying to make a mess with extreme cutting,to make the road slower for the rest crews.

[stefanvv]

Jeez, what's the solution then? Organizers have to sweep the roads before each pass?

For me the ideal solution was QS. I still don't understand why they removed it. It adds additional excitement with choosing the starting order,choosing tyres, etc. And remember Ogier won't win it each time just of the same starting order rules on QS.

[stefanvv]

but didnt hear ever Ogier moaning about this.
He likes to have advantage,but dont like when he hasnt .He wants all for his favour.
We are talking about a driver that in interviews have said, that he is trying to make a mess with extreme cutting,to make the road slower for the rest crews.

This is the place where the other drivers should complain. I'm not defending Ogier, just the sport as such.

[cali]

For me the ideal solution was QS. I still don't understand why they removed it. It adds additional excitement with choosing the starting order,choosing tyres, etc. And remember Ogier won't win it each time just of the same starting order rules on QS.

Partially agree on this. Why QS was dumped in the first place?

[AL14]

Partially agree on this. Why QS was dumped in the first place?

Too many tricks and team tactics