Quote Originally Posted by janvanvurpa View Post
That last bit is kinda of hard to swallow..espeically when you have F-cup which has such good drivers---and dozens of them---scores of them..
In all of "not even starting to develop country' USA with maybe 300-320 total drivers from a population of 320 million, the best USA can do in the best car a guy can buy (because to get better you will not buy the car, they give you the car) is slower than your best F-cup guys.

If Finland has does anything wrong in rally, they made the same mistake as everybody else and listened to marketing and promotion guys and believed them when they said promotion is the key to happiness..

Competition is the key...frequent, hard challenging, close competition...
That last section makes sense to me. The reason Ogier manage to win so often is because he keeps his calm always no matter what and only focus 100% on the task and he has done that by getting very good at competition and not stressing himself when he is in front.

Also
...about Toyota TMR Gazoo whatever, I think it is too early to say anything. It all depends on who they manage to get as driver in the team. Like Lundefaret often says, the driver makes a huuuge difference. Ogier would still win in the Msport cars... the VW only makes it easy for him. I am pretty sure that there is a lower wall between TMG and TMR than we think. If they are building the engines, I am pretty sure they supply testing data and CADs and other stuff as well.

Does anyone here in the forum know much about Tommis group N building before he stuck his nose into the Toyota operations? How good were his cars? Did/do they have any known issues? Etc etc? That would leave us with an indication of how well they could do.