Quote Originally Posted by Rally Power View Post
Jesus, You almost looked like those radical US right wingers that still are denying global warming...

It's not only in the eco movement that hypocrisy can be found...in today's global society probably all governance systems are somehow incoherent or imperfect, simply because they are made by humans! It's in our nature...as it's having the ability to recognize faults and try to do better. Seeing today's degree of civilization it seems the human system is still working!

Btw, congrats to Germany, UK, Norway, The Netherlands and all the other states for their leading effort on the 0 emissions target. It may be shocking for petrolheads like us, but even with alternative techs there will be fun and fast cars (or spaceships) for all!
Didn't the Netherlands just started using new coal plants to make electricity? I lately read some article that claimed electric cars to be at least as polluting as a petrol car (for example they compared a Tesla with Volvo V60). And that's just the driving part. Apparently the production of a electric car pollutes around twice as much as the production of an average petrol car. If you know that the production of an average new car pollutes as much as 14 tonne CO2 (more for the bigger cars), and let's say average emission for a new petrol car is 125g/km. Then theoretically you drive 112 000km before you polluted as much by driving as by the manufacturing of the car. I know many people buy a new car earlier than they reach that amount of kms, and many governments are supporting it by their tax rules. So actually the governments are only supporting the economy, wile making the environmentalists believe it's a good thing they do... IF governments want to do something for the environment, they would tackle the industry (not just car industry, all industry), but that would only work in a good way if the same rules are being applied all over the world at the same time, and it's not going to happen.