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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    Yes but Kubica crashes a lot, not a bit, and he doesnt win either
    Before even thinking of winning you need to crash al lot; you need to know the limits of yourself, co- driver and car. At every rally, at every class, every year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ounin View Post
    Before even thinking of winning you need to crash al lot; you need to know the limits of yourself, co- driver and car. At every rally, at every class, every year.
    Kubica gives "a lot" a new meaning though...

    i cannot remember any driver that crashed that much before winning and did anything in this sport or even won...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ounin View Post
    Before even thinking of winning you need to crash al lot; you need to know the limits of yourself, co- driver and car. At every rally, at every class, every year.
    That's true, it has been said Ogier himself was a crasher in his early years. But Kubica is a "bit" more extreme and he's not really managing to overcome it. His approach is just wrong, he explained it himself, he wants to "force" his learning curve but this is not the way a rally driver learn. 4 crashes in 3 rallys in his second year is something that don't give you hope for a win. He has to change it, learn his limits, have a strategy and other stuff that we've already talked about.
    I really really hope you are right but I fear you are not.

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    As a reaction to NOT's remark he never remembered a driver crashing so much:

    I can only remember drivers who came from lower classes in rallying, not from F1. So there is hardly any other comparison available in this rare situation. Maybe Kimi, Muller, Sarazzin, Hirschi, Ragues etc etc but no one is doing full WRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AL14 View Post
    4 crashes in 3 rallys in his second year is something that don't give you hope for a win. He has to change it, learn his limits, have a strategy and other stuff that we've already talked about.
    I really really hope you are right but I fear you are not.
    This 4 crashes in 3 rallies keeps repeating here, but it seems like you are counting car failures in your figures. He was out of the road 2 times and had 1 car failure (which resulted in a crash) in Monte Carlo, Sweden was pretty clean in driving and 1 crash in Mexico. But if you count any moment as a crash, well, then you're also off in your numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ounin View Post
    As a reaction to NOT's remark he never remembered a driver crashing so much:

    I can only remember drivers who came from lower classes in rallying, not from F1. So there is hardly any other comparison available in this rare situation. Maybe Kimi, Muller, Sarazzin, Hirschi, Ragues etc etc but no one is doing full WRC.
    Kubica has a lot of experience in rallying through village events,erc,wrc2 ects ects... if this was his 1st or even 2nd year in the sport straight from F1 then somehow all these crashes could be justified somehow but still the guy is laughable... he has more crashes than starts...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariusz View Post
    This 4 crashes in 3 rallies keeps repeating here, but it seems like you are counting car failures in your figures. He was out of the road 2 times and had 1 car failure (which resulted in a crash) in Monte Carlo, Sweden was pretty clean in driving and 1 crash in Mexico. But if you count any moment as a crash, well, then you're also off in your numbers.
    Ok they are not 4 but does it chance something if they're 3? Last year he had a clear run in Argentina and he was practically having a walk. In all the other rallys he crashed at least once. How can't you say that something is wrong with him?

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    Yes, he crashes a lot, he should crash less if he wants to achieve something.
    You know it.
    I know it.
    NOT knows it.
    He also knows it.

    Do you think he goes to rally with attitude to crash? He wants to improve on that and he made it clear, but he also doesn't want to loose too much speed, because according to him, driving slowly also isn't the way to go. That's because the car behaves and works differently when being pushed, you learn more about the car, setup etc, when you are closer to the limit. That's why he tries to balance this somehow, but it's clear he is not there yet. Time will tell if he find his way or continue to fail.
    I just don't get why it's that annoying for some of you, let him be. He is not stealing seat from anybody, so why do you care? And don't say it's about safety, because that's just BS.

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    Driving fast is stretchy term in rallying. There is huge difference between Ogier's "driving fast", and Kubica's one. That is the direction he should work hard upon, not slowing down.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    The rhythms of the WRC are very high, between tests, travel expenses related to promotional events, and the same duration of the race weekend (which are well over a weekend), there is little time available to a pilot. But during breaks I will find the time, readers OmniCorse.it, to tell you the story of my second season in the WRC, an important step for my future racing. Waiting for the next event on the calendar, the Rally of Argentina, take this opportunity to summarize those that have so far been the stages of the World already disputed. Three major races, because for me they represented the beginning of a new adventure, with so many unknowns and things to check. I will give you my point of view, what will happen to my championship race by race, but also on the general affairs of the WRC.

    THREE RACES WORLD IN A MONTH AND A HALF
    Within a month and a half we played three rally antipodes by types and needs. Monte Carlo is a race unpredictable, because the variable weather is always ready to change all plans. This year we saw underlying conditions including ice, snow, dry, wet and mud all possible variables. Then we moved to Sweden, one of the most difficult races for me. To familiarize yourself with the conditions of this rally is only one way: run it. I could only count on the experience of 2014, compared with a competition on this front is definitely provided me. I fielded what I have seen and worked in 2014, making significant progress. Then it was the turn of Mexico, a race beautiful and difficult, especially for the type of fund. It is very variable, because of a test of 50km you can find five or six different types of conditions.

    I CHOSE A TEAM SMALL AND TIRES PIRELLI
    After three races so demanding I had a lot of feedback. Start by positive ones, or by a fast acceleration performance that I think it was good, in all conditions. This year I focused on a small team, and the Pirelli tires on the front and "tires" signs have been very good. It is not easy for a driver to change tire supplier, because you have to rebuild the "feeling" that allows you to enjoy hundred center of the material available. But my apprenticeship was immediately very good, especially on the Swedish snow. Even on earth I think Pirelli tires can guarantee good performance, but I have yet to find the right harmony.

    I WON THE SPECIAL IN ALL THREE RALLY 2015
    This my lack of experience will be one of the fronts on which I will have to work more in the next races on the calendar, but I am optimistic about the possibility of fast growth. For now, the performance was still good, we won the special stages in all three rallies, despite being a year "zero" for the team with which I am disputing the World Cup 2015. We speak of a small and private, is the beginning of a new adventure for all, and with a Ford "customers.

    PAGO LACK OF EXPERIENCE
    We come to the fronts from which they come for now indications of improvement. At first I put my consistency of performance, or the need to be able to realize a significant speed potential. The experience factor in the World Rally is crucial. When I started this experience, I knew that I would be confronted with opponents who were engaged in this context for more than ten years, and unlike automobile "pistaiole", there is the opportunity to try on the race.

    WE MUST IMPROVE WORK IN TEST
    A rally the world and acquire know him year after year, so every time I have to deal with this disability who is not indifferent. I think I will have to improve with the team also work in testing, because even if they take place away from the race are still important to develop the technical material. Unfortunately, in this first part of the season was not able to use this opportunity to so many problems, which have ended up influencing my little evidence available. We need a more efficient, and we will have to get to work. But I will keep you updated, race after race in the course of the entire 2015 season after me ...

    http://www.omnicorse.it/magazine/506...a-nel-mondiale

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