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Thread: Rallye Monte Carlo 2015
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28th January 2015, 18:01 #2921
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28th January 2015, 18:06 #2922
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Frtom Autosport.com:
"World Rally champions Sebastien Ogier and Sebastien Loeb have praised Robert Kubica's speed on last week's Monte Carlo Rally.
The Polish ex-Formula 1 driver posted the second highest number of fastest times in the French Alps and stunned the WRC fraternity with his ability to come to terms with Pirelli tyres after just two days of testing.
Kubica's rally was spoiled when he went off the road on the first stage and a subsequent electrical fault forced him out on the road section back to Gap.
But after rejoining he took a string of stage wins, including topping the rally's longest stage by 33 seconds.
Ogier said: "He did a good job, he was fast in a lot of the stages and showed he is capable of the fight.
"But we all know that about Robert, he is really one of the best drivers around."
Loeb and Ogier showed the rivalry the WRC has missed
Loeb noted that Kubica was directly comparable to Ogier as they were running in similar road positions under this year's regulations, when Rally2 returnees start just before the championship leaders.
"Robert was good - I was impressed with him," said Loeb.
Robert Kubica
"He was close to Seb [Ogier] on the road and set some really good times from this position."
Kubica admitted his pace had taken him by surprise.
"If somebody had told me two or three weeks ago that I would be able to go so fast on the Monte Carlo Rally then I wouldn't have believed it," he said.
BRAKE DRAMA ENDED RALLY
His rally ended when a brake problem caused him to crash into a wall after the finish of the penultimate stage.
"That was very strange," he said.
"We had changed pads and discs at the service and, OK, there was some smoke in the first stage, but you expect this from the material.
"But then after we did the long downhill section of the stage, the pedal went to the floor.
"We had no warning , no [pad] knock-off, long pedal or anything like that.
"In the end, I could only take the handbrake to try to slow us down."""Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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28th January 2015, 18:13 #2923
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Well, maybe that was quoted from the contemporary news, but they were very powerful machines, so 300hp, no way. 400+ and more should be more relevant. And suspension was still the old Bilstein type wasn´t it? Just look at Audis jumping in Finland back in 1983-85 (Btw I was there in 1983) and they jumped a couple of times after landing....
And I think too, that Röhrl talking skitsnack... (Och John - reta inte upp Dig på greken - han är bara en krydda här på forumetLast edited by Rallyper; 28th January 2015 at 23:55.
"Reis vas pät pat kaar vas kut"
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28th January 2015, 18:19 #2924
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Doesn't matter if 400hp or 600hp. Fact is that the cars had more power than they could transfer to the road. Droogmans (former European champion who drove RS200 in '86) once said in an interview that the wheels were still spinning when he pushed full throttle in 5th gear on tarmac... Also he claimed that apart from some small flaws (like the placement of fuel tank) that the Group B cars were much safer than the Group 4 cars used some 4 years before.
But this is far off-topic...
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28th January 2015, 19:42 #2925
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28th January 2015, 20:05 #2926
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why you dont post it?
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28th January 2015, 21:28 #2927
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Here you go:
I’ve been thinking a lot about writing something after the last rally weekend with Robert Kubica and Maciek Szczepaniak because every time I speak out I get accused of jealousy or I get sent an ointment for ass pain. Well, no, I’m not jealous. I like Robert and I try to stay in contact with Maciek and support him during rallies. I know how I missed home when I was rallying. But this is not what this essay is about.
What Robert and Maciek did at Monte Carlo is another breakthrough. This is a giant step on their road to victory. I know how hard they worked on to go that fast because I had the opportunity to work hard with Robert. And then I saw the effects this work brought him. I remember the special stages of the Mille Miglia, I remember Du Var results, I also remember the bitter moments like the failure on special stage 1 on Monte, when after many weeks of preparation the car has traveled 1.5 km of ss. To the world, it is normal that the rally preparation are often heavier than the rally, but for the bully commenters, who live a regular lives and drive a 2-year old company Ford Focus, driving a 50km special stage under varying conditions (mud, snow, ice, asphalt) and winning it with drivers who drove Monte 10 times it's just a breeze or like going out with a dog for a walk. Because they can’t know that during rally preparations you make hundreds or thousands of kilometers to be ready for a rally. And Robert and Maciek did it and this is not their last word. And anyone who says or writes that "Robert has gone (off) well on the rally" [an idiom] can at most tightly squeeze the wheel of his Ford Focus, and it's probably with one hand only, because the second one is on the gear stick while he keeps turning the wheel like a pizza delivery man and by pressing the clutch at each braking. And the only thing these commenters can do is to sprint to 170 km / h on the highway cleared of snow.
What moral rights have these champions of steering wheel to judge someone who does not finish the race due to a failure (or if Robert has an off it is at least resulting from competition he is in), who cannot make it to their work without accidents. In 2013 there were 35,000 accidents on the roads in Poland! And 3,300 people were killed. So how do you judge someone when you cannot drive safely and with speeds much lower than during a rally?
That is why I support what Maciek Baran wrote. We have an apogee of flood of moronic commenters who don’t have any understanding of not only rallies but even regular car driving. And I do not know how to remedy this.
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28th January 2015, 21:59 #2928
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Best I ever heard - in the RK matter I should add. More people on this forum should be ashamed reading this.
Last edited by Rallyper; 28th January 2015 at 22:07.
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29th January 2015, 00:40 #2929
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29th January 2015, 00:57 #2930
The last 6 lines make no sense.
We have already said everything about the rest of the comment.
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Fantastic weekend for the WRC, exactly what the sports need. An unexpected winner, that also shows some personality and emosions, perfect! Its also make one think, what could all the other talents...
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