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    Quinn also tweeted this...

    #Ecoboost made in Wales, tuned by @MSportLtd and @FordRacing , rallied around the world by @ElfynEvans #welshpride



    Maybe he's getting more enthusiasm for Ford rallying again ?
    #M-SPORTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by EstWRC View Post
    No revolution in 2017 World Rally Championship technical revamp

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/117111
    At least we have a guy who wants what the fans want...

    '"It's too early to have hybrids in rallying. We have discussed introducing different sizes of engines by controlling the fuel flow and this kind of thing, but it's so expensive and unreliable at this stage - it's too early for this as well.

    "We will see conventional cars, an evolution of what we have now."

    He admitted that his preference had been for further-reaching change.

    "I would like a revolution. I always start these meetings by saying I would like to see a silhouette car with 600bhp and then it goes quiet..." said Mahonen.
    #M-SPORTER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    Quinn also tweeted this...

    #Ecoboost made in Wales, tuned by @MSportLtd and @FordRacing , rallied around the world by @ElfynEvans #welshpride



    Maybe he's getting more enthusiasm for Ford rallying again ?
    Could they perhaps have their own in house developed engine ready already for the start of the season?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC View Post
    "It's too early to have hybrids in rallying... I would like a revolution. I always start these meetings by saying I would like to see a silhouette car with 600bhp and then it goes quiet..." said Mahonen.
    Weirdly, a hybrid may be an easy way to get there using Porsche, McLaren and BMW as examples of that direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanvurpa View Post
    It could be said the opposite, too.

    It could be that people, some people---like me for example---who say they don't like tarmac events---be it track with cars, or bikes---or rallies---know too well what the major challenge is on asphalt is, and find that challenge boring...

    And while obviously the insane long travel suspension has gone too far and gravel cars set up and functioning well have become "less interesting" to watch, there is still 20 times more "something happening" on gravel compared with what is mostly a scaled up slot-car "just driving around"
    You're saying that to the guy who spectates 30 events per year on all surfaces in all possible championships. I guess he knows what he likes

    Anyway do You find this nice to watch? Just asking
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wj-WX-h5B4
    This video is nearly completely taken on the official spectator points.

    Here is what You get on the same rally when You walk deep in the forests.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfc5yUVAlWw
    Stupid is as stupid does. Forrest Gump

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    You're saying that to the guy who spectates 30 events per year on all surfaces in all possible championships. I guess he knows what he likes

    Anyway do You find this nice to watch? Just asking
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wj-WX-h5B4
    This video is nearly completely taken on the official spectator points.

    Here is what You get on the same rally when You walk deep in the forests.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfc5yUVAlWw

    Mirek I am saying that it is rather silly to say "somebody "doesn't understand" something if they say they don't like it" And I say the opposite is possible: they understand something, therefore they don't like it.
    If he like tarmac, OK....


    And come on You have to admit that the tarmac you have in Barum Rally and some other Czech rallies is not what most tarmac---or what most people think of when they refer to tarmac events..
    You guys are simply insane...
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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanvurpa View Post
    And come on You have to admit that the tarmac you have in Barum Rally and some other Czech rallies is not what most tarmac---or what most people think of when they refer to tarmac events..
    You have different types of tarmac, you have different types of gravel. Not all tarmac events are boring, not all gravel events are funny. Somebody prefers gravel, somebody prefers tarmac, somebody likes both...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mirek View Post
    You're saying that to the guy who spectates 30 events per year on all surfaces in all possible championships. I guess he knows what he likes

    Anyway do You find this nice to watch? Just asking
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Wj-WX-h5B4
    This video is nearly completely taken on the official spectator points.

    Here is what You get on the same rally when You walk deep in the forests.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfc5yUVAlWw
    Yeah, we can always post examples of what we personally like. A good example of spectacular gravel video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDRkHXMHqFo

    I know, I know, this is Finland after all and the car here is in veeeeery different league of nowadays, as big as airplane and just as powerful.
    But I think janvanvurpa's point was You can't tell anyone what he likes and what not, people are different. I also like the tarmac Rallies in my country, especially in my home region, well nowadays they're nowhere, but the events themselves can be harldy blamed for that. I also like Lukyanuk driving on Baltic stages with evo, blame me for that, but I don't think he is that spectacular on asphalt with R5. People are different, events are different. I personally enjoy what is spectacular, regardless of surface, country, championship, etc, etc.
    "With that car, your brain can actually never keep up"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4IRMYuE1hI

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    Quote Originally Posted by janvanvurpa View Post
    And come on You have to admit that the tarmac you have in Barum Rally and some other Czech rallies is not what most tarmac---or what most people think of when they refer to tarmac events..
    So, master, could you tell us what "most people" think of when they refer to tarmac events? I think there's the answer to why I'm saying that people who think tarmac is boring know nothing about it.

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    it really doesn't matter on what surface a rally is, or which cars are used. it's the drivers that make the difference.

    put the top wrc drivers in a r1 car on asphalt, and they will be more exiting to watch than gentleman-drivers in a wrc on gravel.

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