How much knowledge could he take from one team to another after a one day test? ..and besides the cars are about to be homologated so not much chance to make changes now.
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How much knowledge could he take from one team to another after a one day test? ..and besides the cars are about to be homologated so not much chance to make changes now.
It would be gentleman-like if he doesn't mention anything from VW. You'd expect that.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Do you're mean that at the end of every run he must not say things like, 'this handles like a whale!!- When I was at VW the Polo was very precise and only a neurotic Finn would not have been able to beat anyone in !!'Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
Meant more classified info ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
VW aren't competing next year so what does it matter anymore?Quote:
Originally Posted by BigWorm
Doubt they want all their hard work spoiled for everyoneQuote:
Originally Posted by RS
They can't really do anything.Even if the drivers keep confidentiality,engineers that will move to other teams will spoil things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUSWr5nYuE0 I don't think that the man in the start of the video is learning french for Camilli!!
Eheh piece of humor ;)
From a good source its between msport and toyotaQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
he and matton dont get on so citroen are out
I'm in that hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Vaggelis27
RallySport Mag @RallySportMag
November 18 was the 20th anniversary of the signing of the agreement by Malcolm Wilson to run the Ford WRC team.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cxpxc0UVEAASmdZ.jpg
Hope this is right.Quote:
Originally Posted by adr17
Surely it will be M-Sport then... although with the shocks of 2016 (Brexit, Trump) who knows..
Actually quite a lot of teams from European mainland recently buy M-Sport cars because they are now reasonably cheaper than for example Škoda due to low GBP curency rate (here in CZ it's roughly 16% down).Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
What does this have to do with Ogier's options for 2017 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I was saying that 2016 has been a year of big surprises and Ogier to Toyota would be another.
I think Makinen is trying to run a team that is based around him,like the old Ralliart days.He has the final say in everything and he expects everyone to follow his opinions.Ogier is too strong minded to be guided around by a former star.
and its rumoured thats also a reason why Tänak didnt go there.
You started with Brexit and Trump and I pointed out that Brexit may be in the end a good thing for M-Sport. We'll see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
So nothing to do with Ogier's 2017 choice then..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Stick to the subject instead of chipping in on every single post with your opinions. You're getting as bad as NOT...
Actually, the same could be said from Wilson...expect the ‘former star’ part.Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
You should realize they’re team owners, not simple managers.
You really believe that Tänak is the one who is choosing ?Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Malcolm, Tommi and Ogier are!
Rest will go where they are allowed, not where they want.
http://www.iltasanomat.fi/ralli/art-2000003027800.html in Finnish 10 questions to Tommi.
New info is that 3rd car will probably be in only 7 events (starting from Portugal or Corsica)
Not really.Wilson was never the focus of M-Sport,except the years they didn't have a good name driver.Sainz/Kankkunen/McRae were the faces of the team for the first years,then it was Martin,Gronholm and later Mikko/JML/Petter and lastly Neuville.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
What the hell? Where did i say I think so?Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Sorry if hurt your feelings
You on the other hand are getting veeery touchy. Mirek's post made all the sense in the world. If Msport has money, they have the chance to develop the car and it makes it a realistic choice for a very competitive driver whose main goal is to be top of the podium all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
calm down boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
If Mäkinen doesn't get Ogier, he should go for Mikkelsen. Latvala will never change. Over 10 years, and he has not, so never will
Having good name drivers on the line up doesn't mean you're making them the team focus. Honestly, I bet Wilson is eager to sign Ogier because he feels that's a huge opportunity to get back Ford's full support to MSport. If so, he's being smart and looking for his business sake. Best luck to him!Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
You are getting very sensitive about TMR and Tommi. Ofcourse drivers can choose if they have offers on the table. Quite silly comment from you.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Ford Europe have been saying they have a few massive announcements coming up soon. Interestingly the Ford Rally account now has a blank profile picture on twitter, I'm pretty sure recently it had the Ford badge as the picture anyone able to confirm this?
Also Ford confirmed the rumour a while back that should they be able to get a driver who can win the championship they'll be back, Ogier is that man.
If this all comes to fruition, Wilson has been very astute once again and Volkswagen leaving WRC has been on the cards for months, as they announced months back they be making savings in areas they deem unnecessary shortly after a US ruling over diesel-gate. Previously to the ruling they were in talks to purchase Redbull Racing, maybe Wilson has contacts and knew VW were looking to leave for a new challenge? Possibly why he's dragged his feet alot this season with driver lineups, I don't recall him hinting at all this time round during the season apart from Neuville after a few rounds.
Seems to be a bolt of the blue for the other teams apart from M-Sport.
29 November is the date.If Ford returns,it will be known then.
Maybe his tone of voice is a bit exagerrated as you pointed out. But it's true that unless you are a team manager or a very strong driver like Ogier you have less choice...Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
Ford is supporting M-Sport without any break. Only is not written as official manufacturer, mark is not in the name of the team. But there is still full support. But with Ogier, maybe there should be time to change politics and put the brand back to rally live...Quote:
Originally Posted by ilsit
How do You define full support? Do You actually believe that Ford puts similar money in M-Sport like VW or Hyundai? I don't buy that for a second.
I'm sure Ford "supports" them and they don't mind the free publicity, maybe they give them a discount on buying the chassis that MSport then converts to rally cars and sells but I don't think they put actual money behind the WRC team.
I think that Ford never gave and will never give similar money like VW or Hyundai to rallysport...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
He´s not sensitive in that way. He just knows much more about TMR than you appearently don´t understand.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
What has been reported, since the end of ’12, is that Ford stopped paying Wilson to run their WRC official team, keeping only a tech support that allows MSport to use Ford cars in rallysport. http://www.bbc.com/sport/motorsport/33802840Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Not true.They spent quite a lot working on the RS200 back in the 80s and they still got the highest payed WRC drivsr contract with Colin McRae from 1999 to 2002(£6 mil per year)Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto