[WRC] Arctic Rally 2021

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Brrrrrrrrr...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EusekAPXcAQKQa1?format=jpg&name=large

[1988senna]

Can anyone tell me where to download the race map,It's been password protected on the official website,

[Hartusvuori]

Can anyone tell me where to download the race map,It's been password protected on the official website,

It's password protected for a reason. No spectators.

[Tauri_J]

https://i.postimg.cc/wyHnps5P/Screenshot-2021-02-22-10-47-44-182-com-android-chrome.png (https://postimg.cc/wyHnps5P)

Could be even warmer now.

[AnttiL]

https://www.foreca.com/100638936/Rovaniemi-Finland

Foreca is forecasting a dip to the plus degrees on Thursday, and a touch at zero on Friday. I think the roads will be softer with possibly some gravel being exposed on the second run? Difficult to say because the Arctic Rally stages have rarely been driven twice (and never with this many this powerful cars)

[AnttiL]

https://toyotagazooracing.com/release/2021/wrc/rd02-preview.html
https://motorsport.hyundai.com/arctic-adventures-await/

https://www.m-sport.co.uk/single-post/m-sport-ford-venture-to-the-frozen-north

[AnttiL]

“The roads are in absolutely perfect condition, they look fantastic. If we do get a lot of snow, we will run the plough through.

“Obviously we’d rather not have to do this after the recce, but if it’s necessary we will do that. I think the drivers would rather we ploughed the roads as close to the lines as we possibly can rather than leaving them to deal with 20 or 30cm of fresh snow.”

We’re asking this question for a Mr S. Ogier: how much would a ploughed road clean?

Kai said: “The plough does a pretty good job of shifting a lot of snow and, with the weight of the machine, it makes a good surface. There would still be some snow around on the surface though.”

One of the great debates in recent weeks has been whether or not the organizers will water the stages. They won’t. Kai told me.

Why, when it’s been -30, would they need to generate ice? It’s a good question. Here’s some more science: it’s too consistently cold. And dry.

Year-on-year we bang on about the perfect winter rally road recipe: cold spell, heavy, heavy snow, couple of days above zero to melt some of that snow, then massively deep freeze – like -15 for weeks. Then a bit more snow to make it look pretty and generate that vortexy swirly snowy picture I painted at the top of this story.

Those conditions make for a solid ice base, giving the studs something to grab hold of.

The temperature in Rovaniemi hasn’t been north of nought (Celsius) for a while now. There’s been no melting.

Instead, what we have is piles of compressed powder. Introduce 1,536 seven-mil studs on four spinning Pirellis and those Sottozeros will slice through the snow like a hot knife through butter.

Watering the stages a week or so ago would have generated that base of ice – something that was done on some of the test roads used by the teams.

“We decided not to do it,” said Tarkiainen. “We talked to the teams about it and they said they would prefer not to. The ice that generates is quite… artificial, if you like, and gives a different sort of grip.

“Don’t forget, the roads here have been sitting at minus temperatures for a long time and they really are packed hard now. The snow might be swept off the line by the cars quite quickly, but what’s underneath is solid ice; there’s a lot of moisture around the gravel in the road and that’s what freezes.”

https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/what-to-expect-from-arctic-rally-and-rovaniemi/

very good article.

Tarkiainen says the first stage will be among the fastest ones but I would guess it's the second-slowest stage of the rally (Mustalampi the slowest). However, he's correct that it's the only one resembling Jyväskylä, especially on the first section with its rollercoastery feeling.

[AnttiL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eu02is1XUAA6hbX?format=png&name=small

[AnttiL]

Three persons attending Arctic Rally Finland from separate non-Finnish teams have been tested COVID-19 positive upon arrival, although their tests were negative at their home country. 14 persons have been quarantined.

https://yle.fi/urheilu/3-11802986

[AnttiL]

2053

Do you know something since you posted it in this thread? I assumed he was just testing ;)

[bisak]

Tested COVID-19 positive upon arrival, although their tests were negative at their home country.


It's password protected for a reason. No spectators.

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[pantealex]

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Final servicepark layout, Printsport is servicing 11 cars.

[Jarek Z]

Finally managed to post a picture in proper size. No idea why the forum is resizing the image in very small size.[/img]

From Russia with love! :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Strange for Gryazin to test the Fiesta WRC in snow when there's no more snow rallies to come in this car. Maybe just to have a general feel of the car.

[TypeR]

Strange for Gryazin to test the Fiesta WRC in snow when there's no more snow rallies to come in this car. Maybe just to have a general feel of the car.
I'm pretty sure he is driving one..
M-Sport wouldn't risk losing another car before rally for just letting Gryazin test one on snow/ice.. + Gryazin getting totally different driving feeling..


Maybe I'm wrong after all..
E: Russian rally driver Nikolai Gryazin tested the M-Sport team's "Ford Fiesta WRC" in Lapland on Monday. As Grjazins admitted after the tests, who will start in the Lapland rally with a "Volkswagen Polo GTI R5 car", then "Cool sensations." An interesting machine. The roads were slippery, so I couldn't show all the potential, "says Nikolai Gryazin.

[Tom K]

Some reactions (google translate) from Gryazin - Go4speed website. I did not see anything more. No words about the start. Maybe Gus will not start and the car is free to use but only for this kind of activities. If they need second scorer for rally, can just "upgrade" Bertelli.

"Cool sensations." An interesting machine. The roads were slippery, so I couldn't show all the potential, "says Nikolai Gryazin.

'What surprised me was that the car drove smoothly. At least that's how I felt while sitting behind the wheel, but when you watch the video, you realize that driving is faster and more unusual compared to an R5 car. Yes, in slow corners the speed is the same as in the R5, but in the fast sections the driving is very different, because when you watch the video, you realize that you would not be able to drive so fast with the R5. This is something you have to get used to when driving a WRC car. '

[Tom K]

Seems like testing day :) Fourmaux also tested WRC car.

Great day in the cold and the snow. It was Fiesta WRC on the menu today! The learning continues little by little. Back to Rally2 tomorrow for the pre-Arctic Rally testing!

[dimviii]

Lappi

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_02_2021/post-1812-0-31837200-1614001727.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

MSportLtd
Testing ahead of this weekend’s #ArcticRallyFinland continued today with @AdrienFourmaux taking to the wheel of the EcoBoost-powered Ford Fiesta WRC this morning.

[Rallyper]

Don´t forget PICKEMS . Closing time almost same as FantasyWRC, 1400 CET on Friday.

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eu5lrlpXEAAXnic?format=jpg&name=large

https://twitter.com/fuckmatie37/status/1364139545118322689?s=20



25-28 February 1999: First Factory WRC event for @Petter_Solberg in Kenya!
25-28 February 2021: First Factory WRC event for @OliverSolberg01in Finland!

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eu53JRQXcAEkF8r?format=jpg&name=large


https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/1364158745304043521?s=20

[Essaj]

Oliver: Unfortunately we did some bad news as Aaron got a positive test for COVID-19 so can’t compete this weekend


Gutting for Aaron and the team, but very thankful to @sebmarshall
for standing in!

[EstWRC]

The first winner of @RallyFinland is @OttTanak fastest in ice karting and the winner of a Pirelli Calendar book! And the real action doesn’t even start until Friday #Fit4WRC #WRC #ArcticRallyFinland

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eu60vB_UcAAHt-9?format=jpg&name=large


https://twitter.com/pirellisport/status/1364226475545649152?s=20




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https://twitter.com/GustavKruuda/status/1364208042594758660/photo/1

[SubaruNorway]

Oliver: Unfortunately we did some bad news as Aaron got a positive test for COVID-19 so can’t compete this weekend


Gutting for Aaron and the team, but very thankful to @sebmarshall
for standing in!

Due to a false test it seems like, that man must be the worlds most unluckiest co-driver

"Hi Everyone,
Unfortunately I will not start Arctic Rally Finland this weekend.
I did a Covid Test before leaving home, which was Negative.
I did the mandatory Covid Test upon arrival in Finland on Sunday, which produced a positive result. However, the lab did not provide me with any evidence of this, bar a phone call.
Yesterday I did another test, which returned a Negative Result.
I am currently awaiting results of a 3rd test.
Under FIA protocol, I am now Self Isolating, but I will not be allowed to start the race, due to this anomaly.
I wish Oliver & Seb the very best of luck, along with the whole Hyundai Motorsport Team.
Today’s News is tomorrow’s chip paper!"

[bisak]

Due to a false test it seems like

The amount of covid tests that are not false is so low that this is basically russian roulette. The covid insanity needs to stop. Wake up people... Another healthy/asymptomatic/non contagious individual badged sick. That's completely absurd...

[SubaruNorway]

The amount of covid tests that are not false is so low that this is basically russian roulette. The covid insanity needs to stop. Wake up people... Another healthy/asymptomatic/non contagious individual badged sick. That's completely absurd...

"Update: Aaron has since had 2 negative tests, but due to FIA regulations he's still unable to compete this weekend... but he'll be back next time out in Croatia!"

[Essaj]

The first winner of @RallyFinland is @OttTanak fastest in ice karting and the winner of a Pirelli Calendar book! And the real action doesn’t even start until Friday #Fit4WRC #WRC #ArcticRallyFinland

Fastest of the Hyundai drivers it seems.

Hyundai:
Ott 1:22.8
Craig 1:23.2

Ford:
Teemu 1:17.5
Gus: 1:18.4

Toyota:
Seb 1:18.6
Kalle 1:17.3
Taka 1:18.2
Elfyn 1:19.0

Others:
EP 1:19.2
Asunmaa 1:19.7
Salminen 1:20.2

So it's Kalle with the first stage win of the week :p

[dimviii]

Rally Paradise
@rallyparadise
Nice livery for @janproracing
´s #Ford #FiestaWRC for #ArcticRallyFinland! Janne Tuohino is aiming #WRC points & this is already his 14th #ArcticRally. They were testing 3 days before the event, so great homework. Photos by Virva Viitanen. @RallyFinland
@MSportLtd
@pirellisport

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[dimviii]

Rallying in Africa
@RallyinAfrika

Coincidence??
25-28 February 1999: First Factory WRC event for @Petter_Solberg
at @wrcsafarirally Kenya!
25-28 February 2021: First Factory WRC event for @OliverSolberg01
in Finland!
#safarirallychallenge

[dimviii]

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[1988senna]

Can the driver take the night version device during the race if the sun hasn't come out yet.??? is the rule allow for that?

[Tauri_J]

No point of making driving in the night worse.

[pantealex]

https://storage.googleapis.com/download/storage/v1/b/sportity-storage/o/b31d656b-5262-4b35-bde3-2235d3027f4f%2F5db27578-14a2-4f83-b85b-319071eb2177_ARF2021_COC%20COMM%203_20210223.pdf?g eneration=1614146566333202&alt=media

COC Document 3
-REINDEER ACCIDENT PROCEDURE
-free drinks and food between SS1-SS2 and warm place to wait

This rally really is different than any other!

[AnttiL]

Semi-scientific estimation about the pace of this rally. I believe winner’s overall average speed will be 121 km/h

https://itgetsfasternow.com/2021/02/24/estimating-the-pace-of-arctic-rally-finland-2021/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Sulland]

Semi-scientific estimation about the pace of this rally. I believe winner’s overall average speed will be 121 km/h

https://itgetsfasternow.com/2021/02/24/estimating-the-pace-of-arctic-rally-finland-2021/amp/?__twitter_impression=true


I like assessments and I am impressed by this one!

[jcevc]

Semi-scientific estimation about the pace of this rally. I believe winner’s overall average speed will be 121 km/h

https://itgetsfasternow.com/2021/02/24/estimating-the-pace-of-arctic-rally-finland-2021/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Great one, thank you :champion:

[RS]

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COC Document 3
-REINDEER ACCIDENT PROCEDURE
-free drinks and food between SS1-SS2 and warm place to wait

This rally really is different than any other!

Reindeer burgers?

[Rallyper]

Description of studs in bulletin, does it mean any major changes to studs or why is it turning up atm?

[Lead]

Today its recce?

[rp]

Today its recce?

today & tomorrow...

[TypeR]

Martin Prokop will start with Michal Ernst. Covid protocol...

That's weird.. Prokop and Chytka travelled to Finland together and ,,unboxed,, the new car also together with many others.. Hopefully Prokop can start!


edit: another reason, not Covid pos test.

[Mirek]

That's weird.. Prokop and Chytka travelled to Finland together and ,,unboxed,, the new car also together with many others.. Hopefully Prokop can start!

Maybe Prokop had covid in the past. Anyway in my wider family cases happened, where one family member was covid positive and others living in the same houshold stayed negative.

[andyone]

Rallying in Africa
@RallyinAfrika

Coincidence??
25-28 February 1999: First Factory WRC event for @Petter_Solberg
at @wrcsafarirally Kenya!
25-28 February 2021: First Factory WRC event for @OliverSolberg01
in Finland!
#safarirallychallenge

i think oliver will be better than Kalle. the kid seems to be a very quick learner

[Mirek]

Martin Prokop will start with Michal Ernst. Covid protocol...

My appology, not true. It's not because of Covid.

[TypeR]

Prokop on Instagram:

,,Hello to all fans! Just before the start of the Arctic Rally Finland, an old friend Michal Ernst appears next to me. Viktor Chytka and I mutually agreed after yesterday's test that we will postpone the joint start to our WRC2 project for security reasons to another competition. Arctic Rally is a very demanding and fast competition without orientation points, which puts extreme claims on the passenger's job. Viktor is healthy anyway and news of his Covid positivity is not true.''

[dimviii]

Maybe Prokop had covid in the past. Anyway in my wider family cases happened, where one family member was covid positive and others living in the same houshold stayed negative.
like my son with me and my wife.My son tested positive(with high ct),and neither me and my wife affected.

[Allez Andruet]

i think oliver will be better than Kalle. the kid seems to be a very quick learner

Long-term we'll see, but on the Arctic Rally it's a no-contest. And that's no disrespect to Oliver. Game on.

[Sulland]

Olivers main goal is getting to the checkered flag.
So Petter will say something like this;

start slow. Then get to know the car, and the check that settings are ok.
Slowly increase speed during day 2, and see where you are speedwise towards the top.
Many will have gone off by now, and you are top 10, maybe top 7.
Day3: Continue with the speed you ended day 2 with. 1 or 2 more will go off.
Checkered flag, main goal reached.

And you have enjoyed your first Rally in a WRCar!

[AnttiL]

Forecasts are giving from 0 to -5 C for whole rally, and on Sunday there could be some plus degrees

[cali]

Forecasts are giving from 0 to -5 C for whole rally, and on Sunday there could be some plus degreesSo we missed the real winter by a week...

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[EstWRC]

like always, lol

[AnttiL]

Rally Sweden this year would have had perfect snow conditions

Rovaniemi on this weekend a year ago would have been between -5 and -20

[Tauri_J]

Forecasts are giving from 0 to -5 C for whole rally, and on Sunday there could be some plus degrees

Good, from monday it gets Even warmer.

[cali]

So we now know that to have winter rally even Rovaniemi doesn't guarantee you a perfect winter conditions. What a world we're living....

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[AnttiL]

So we now know that to have winter rally even Rovaniemi doesn't guarantee you a perfect winter conditions. What a world we're living....

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Well, it’s the end of February, which is exceptional. Normally Arctic Lapland Rally has plenty of minus degrees in January.

[cali]

Well, it’s the end of February, which is exceptional. Normally Arctic Lapland Rally has plenty of minus degrees in January.Sure. And at the beginning of Feb also in Torsby a real winter this year. But my point was that we are not guaranteed of good conditions unless within very narrow time frame (Jan 15 - Feb 15).

Also considering that we have always Monte at the end of January then we have only 2nd week of February left for winter rally.

EDIT: don't take it as complaining. My thoughts are more directed towards ideas how to have proper winter rallies in the future.

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[AnttiL]

Yeah, Arctic Lapland Rally has been traditionally arranged in the same week as Monte or one week before.

[SubaruNorway]

Sure. And at the beginning of Feb also in Torsby a real winter this year. But my point was that we are not guaranteed of good conditions unless within very narrow time frame (Jan 15 - Feb 15).

Also considering that we have always Monte at the end of January then we have only 2nd week of February left for winter rally.

EDIT: don't take it as complaining. My thoughts are more directed towards ideas how to have proper winter rallies in the future.

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Sweden would have liked to run earlier but like always MC are allowed to do as they want pushing Sweden late, at least a couple of the years where it has been mild would have been fine if it got to run a week or two before

[TypeR]

Mads said he is very surprised, that there is quite a lot of gravel out already after the recce and not so thick layer of ice/snow. Will be demanding for tyres and studs.. SS1/2

[Rallyper]

So we missed the real winter by a week...

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Enough winter for the rally, I´d say. Shame there´s no spectators to amuse...

[AnttiL]

Mads said he is very surprised, that there is quite a lot of gravel out already after the recce and not so thick layer of ice/snow. Will be demanding for tyres and studs.. SS1/2

Where he said it?

Remember the national rally was already run on most of the roads

[TypeR]

Where he said it?

Remember the national rally was already run on most of the roads

WRC Instagram stories, but I think it asks to be logged in to see stories..

https://www.instagram.com/officialwrc/

[Rallyper]

Less than 24h to closing time for Pickems. Closing time 1400 CET Friday.

Changed list of drivers: Bulacia out. Brynildsen in.

[Tauri_J]

Mads said he is very surprised, that there is quite a lot of gravel out already after the recce and not so thick layer of ice/snow. Will be demanding for tyres and studs.. SS1/2

Remember that theres hardly been any thaw where rally Will be held. I would guess its mostly packed snow which is covering the roads.

[dimviii]

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mads said he is very surprised, that there is quite a lot of gravel out already after the recce and not so thick layer of ice/snow. Will be demanding for tyres and studs.. SS1/2

Should be no problem with studs on the Pirelli's as they are vulcanised into the rubber in manufacture, not added afterwards like Michelin's.

First run of Friday stage should be full, solid, snow but 2nd pass will have a bit of gravel showing through.

Dirtfish at the tests said Toyota ran in these conditions (some gravel after 2 runs), but where Hyundai tested the road was watered and surface was frozen ice...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Pre-event press conf:
https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-arctic-rally-finland-pre-event-press-conference-transcript

[Rallyper]

Morning guys. The day is here. Foggy conditions. Policemen on snowmobiles watching according to Pantealex from whom I get som direct messages.
So no spectaors from others than Tabard media.

[EstWRC]

lol Kalle 4 secs faster

[Rallyper]

He did go very wide in the two corners at the end. A bit faster and they got stuck...

[Rallyper]

Breen camera has wrong angle...

[EstWRC]

lets see the second run now when everybody has done the stage.

Kalle in his own on first run and then 3 Hyundais

https://www.ewrc-results.com/shake/69715-arctic-rally-finland-powered-by-capitalbox-2021/

[Rallyper]

"It´s the first time..." Seb Marshall said after finish...

[Rallyper]

Touhino off!! One camera hit by car...

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvImkNVXMAEc5T_?format=jpg&name=large

[TypeR]

Mikkelsen forgot he is not in a WRC car and tried to paddleshift the gear down at the beginning of the stage, but there was no paddle :D

[EstWRC]

great time from Lappi, way faster than others

[EstWRC]

when you realize how amazing this cars are to drive



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[Timmy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvEkdgqWgAELvDt?format=jpg&name=medium

Not the best photoshop job but I think I would have perferred if the orange accent below the bonnet would have matched.
2056

[Essaj]

Neuville off and Evans have had a spin

[EstWRC]

ah thats why they all with so slow times except Ogier

E: didnt bother Tänak too, Breen goin really great so far

[EstWRC]

Neuville off and Evans have had a spin

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvIrO3jXEAADg9-?format=jpg&name=large

https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1365201182474592257?s=20

[meh]

Yes, it's only shakedown, but Breen is amazing - being away long time and still really competitive.

[Rallyper]

Rovanperä lost one minute or hindered?

[mknight]

Yes, it's only shakedown, but Breen is amazing - being away long time and still really competitive.

Fast loose surface rallies have been his best surface for last 5 years. Do far the shakedown results look very similar to last similar rally in Estonia 2020.

I am sure Breen will do well here, but he really needs to get a chance and impress on the other types of rallies and surfaces.

[AMSS]

Rovanperä lost one minute or hindered?

Said in rallyradio he is just saving the tires as he will need them in the actual rally... looks like he is quit confident ;)

[Lead]

Should be nice battle in WRC2 - Lappi, Mikkelsen, Huttunen, maybe Veiby, and also probably some local drivers from WRC3 will join in as well.

[EstWRC]

Neuville got out

[TypeR]

Said in rallyradio he is just saving the tires as he will need them in the actual rally... looks like he is quit confident ;)
Wasn't there a rule before that if you do 3 rounds of SD, you get 4 new tyres for the race?

[AMSS]

Wasn't there a rule before that if you do 3 rounds of SD, you get 4 new tyres for the race?

I think (not sure) that they are allowed to use the 4 tires from shakedown in the rally if they do 3 rounds and these are the additional 4

[Sulland]

Would be nice with yellow filter on the inboard cameras, to better see contours in the all white terrain.

[EstWRC]

Ogier with a very slow third pass but i guess also just cruising through

[Sulland]

Taka like the white stuff!
Fastest if timing is right.

[HarriK]

Ekström off

[er88]

Cruise mode for some of them atm.

[EstWRC]

https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/1365210299423481856?s=20
https://twitter.com/MattiGrohn_/status/1365207987300823041?s=20
https://twitter.com/MundoRallyes/status/1365212647118016513?s=20

so many guys having moments and going off and its just a shakedown

[Tanelv]

Would be nice with yellow filter on the inboard cameras, to better see contours in the all white terrain.

You can change the colour profile of the monitor

[Japé]

Still many drivers without yellow glasses, so color correction might not suit for all

[Sulland]

It was colder back in the days!

·
From Twitter
"Checking some old stories about @Arcticrally (https://twitter.com/Arcticrally)
! Did you know that the 1st edition organized in 1966 was international? That year, the temperatures went down to -54°C!

It was very difficult conditions but 26 of the 34 cars entered in the rally made it to the end! "


Not sure if todays computercars would cope in minus 54?

[EstWRC]

Ott doesnt seem to care about the tires

[AnttiL]

I think (not sure) that they are allowed to use the 4 tires from shakedown in the rally if they do 3 rounds and these are the additional 4

The rules say you're allocated 20 tyres for the rally, and additional 4 if you start the shakedown. Thus you could get 24, which is essentially full 6 for all four legs of the rally.

[EstWRC]

im really surprised about this tyre saving to be honest, i mean the conditions are so good so they shouldnt wear out so fast....i would get it if we had conditions like in Sweden last year or it has turned out that the Pirelli actually wears out fast

[AnttiL]

im really surprised about this tyre saving to be honest, i mean the conditions are so good so they shouldnt wear out so fast....i would get it if we had conditions like in Sweden last year or it has turned out that the Pirelli actually wears out fast

Dunno but Toyota should have the data if someone, with Hänninen having driven the event.

Also, yesterday there were reports about gravel pulling up already on the recce. Remember that the roads have already been rallied on a month ago. The surface in the summer time is more coarse than in Jyväskylä, because these roads don't have normal traffic compacting it daily. That's why you might see the gravel quicker.

[Rallyper]

well, Paavo reports and sent photo. Full gravel in the bottom, after three times. No ruts.

For sure they save tyres.

However I think it´s stupid rule. Let the four tyres be outside competition, so we get full speed on SD.

[EstWRC]

nice time by Egon Kaur on his second run

[mknight]

Looks like big road development atm. Solberg, Greensmith, Loubet etc. all getting 1-2 s/km faster.

Not sure how relevant for the rally.

[AnttiL]

However I think it´s stupid rule. Let the four tyres be outside competition, so we get full speed on SD.

I thought the rules changed after 2017, but maybe it's a new rule for these short events?

[EstWRC]

well, Paavo reports and sent photo. Full gravel in the bottom, after three times. No ruts.

For sure they save tyres.

However I think it´s stupid rule. Let the four tyres be outside competition, so we get full speed on SD.

ok then it makes sense

[mknight]

Is the road order getting changed already after friday (62 km)?

[Tom K]

Yes

[AnttiL]

Is the road order getting changed already after friday (62 km)?

yes. Confirmed by Clerk of the Course on twitter.

In Turkey last year they did a shorter Friday leg to determine the starting order.

Estonia was an exception because they only ran a super special on Friday.

[Susiraja]

Dunno but Toyota should have the data if someone, with Hänninen having driven the event.

Also, yesterday there were reports about gravel pulling up already on the recce. Remember that the roads have already been rallied on a month ago. The surface in the summer time is more coarse than in Jyväskylä, because these roads don't have normal traffic compacting it daily. That's why you might see the gravel quicker.

I don't know how the WRC cars eat the tyres. However some years back in the Finnish Championship Arctic there was a big difference whether you were driving on snow/ice or if the ruts already had gravel on it. Even an R2 Peugeot started to loose studs after a 20km fast stage from brand new tyres. One R5 driver said that they already had very different tyre wear compared to the front runners who didn't suffer from the gravel. Interesting to see how it is now with the WRC round with the tyre wear.

[AnttiL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvJKoZnWQAEi_vW?format=jpg&name=small

One minute gaps for WRC2 and WRC3 is not good

[mknight]

One minute gaps for WRC2 and WRC3 is not good

Well I wonder how many non-WRC(1) drivers actually drive full two stages today with all the "less experienced" WRC cars in front.

[meh]

What is the chance that late-runners can drive any stage with proper speed.

I think some cars will find their way to snow-bank and then may block the road. For WRC3 drivers it's already win, when they can drive stage with competitive pace ;)

edit: noticed finally, that mknight made the same point :)

[AnttiL]

Well I wonder how many non-WRC(1) drivers actually drive full two stages today with all the "less experienced" WRC cars in front.

If Bertelli is in a snowbank 10 minutes into the stage, all the WRC2 cars have already started the stage, so they can only prevent the WRC3 from starting until the road is cleared. Maybe they will use the splits to make up notional times?

[PLuto]

If Bertelli is in a snowbank 10 minutes into the stage, all the WRC2 cars have already started the stage, so they can only prevent the WRC3 from starting until the road is cleared. Maybe they will use the splits to make up notional times?

If all WRC2 cars will be affected by Bertelli or Tuohino in a snowbank, it is better to give them same time than making some "random" notional times according to splits...

[mknight]

If all WRC2 cars will be affected by Bertelli or Tuohino in a snowbank, it is better to give them same time than making some "random" notional times according to splits...

Lots of potential issues either way.

What if a WRC2 goes into a snowbank while already in the stage in that situation? His time loss wouldn't count?

Similarly if you cancel all WRC2 times you get WRC3+national cars possibly beating them (again depending on what time you get) and you get back to typical last years mix-up where WRC2, WRC3 and other R5s are completely mixed in standings. Add to the road running order issues for Saturday and Sunday (WRC2 will start first) and its a big mess.

[er88]

Have to say I am worrying about stage cancellations/ big delays due to cars in snow banks. It's a worry with the top drivers who will be driving at incredible speeds, but even more of a worry with the likes of Bertelli back in a wrc car after a while away. If the wrc2 are running at minute intervals, it will be hard to manage them behind if there's a problem in the stage.

[RS]

i guess they won’t show many R5 crews on All-Live this weekend with many extra World Rally Cars here. I noticed they have the cameras in Bertelli and Tuohino’s cars.

[AnttiL]

Yes, according to shakedown only Mikkelsen and Fourmaux had onboard cameras. It's a shame really, would have rather put the Bertelli and Tuohino cameras on Lappi and Huttunen.

[Tauri_J]

Well its always been like this. After all its called WRC+ not WRC2+ :)

[meh]

Well its always been like this. After all its called WRC+ not WRC2+ :)

... but it's not called WRC1+ either

This year WRC2 teams will make the year. I hope they get enough media-attention and output to encourage more teams to take part of WRC2 next years.

[AnttiL]

... but it's not called WRC1+ either

Technically there's no such thing as WRC1.

Basically, we cannot judge a privateer beforehand and decide who gets the camera and who doesn't. Imagine a situation where someone like Mikkelsen or Lappi would have a private WRC entry and they wouldn't get the onboard camera.

The entry fees for a P1 WRC car is high, and there's some value in return. Similarly as WRC2 also has a higher entry fee than WRC3.

There's limits to everything, and it's a shame these camera kits are so expensive. But ultimately having little cameras on WRC2 just means that there's exceptionally many WRC cars on the line!

[mknight]

There's limits to everything, and it's a shame these camera kits are so expensive. But ultimately having little cameras on WRC2 just means that there's exceptionally many WRC cars on the line!

Yes, but there's no denying that we'll rather watch Rally2 car pushing than AlQuassimi on tarmac for example.

[Rallyper]

Yes, according to shakedown only Mikkelsen and Fourmaux had onboard cameras. It's a shame really, would have rather put the Bertelli and Tuohino cameras on Lappi and Huttunen.

Maybe more spectacular pics from Bertelli and Touhino when going off...

[AnttiL]

Yes, but there's no denying that we'll rather watch Rally2 car pushing than AlQuassimi on tarmac for example.

Absolutely. But like I said it would be harsh from the WRC Promoter to say to the rich gentlemans "thanks for your money, but sorry, we don't want your driving on the TV". The next time they will take their money elsewhere...

[Got Mail]

i think oliver will be better than Kalle. the kid seems to be a very quick learner

He's a really great young driver, no question about that.

Kalle is a different league. A once in a lifetime driver.

If you anticipating another Kalle I think you'll be very disappointed.

[AnttiL]

Kalle is a different league. A once in a lifetime driver.

I would say Oliver will reach the same level as Kalle, but Oliver is about two years behind in progress.

[T16]

He's a really great young driver, no question about that.

Kalle is a different league. A once in a lifetime driver.

If you anticipating another Kalle I think you'll be very disappointed.

I’ll take that bet!

[Jeppe]

Maybe more spectacular pics from Bertelli and Touhino when going off...

Oh come on, what a lack of knowledge. Do not ever compare Bertelli and Tuohino in Arctic Rally.

[Rallyper]

Oh come on, what a lack of knowledge. Do not ever compare Bertelli and Tuohino in Arctic Rally.

I didn´t. Just saying both will deliver spectacular pictures from incar view. Read my lips.

[wwbroe]

So, start of the first stage is in about 20 minutes?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Dirtfish reported quite a few drivers went off in snowbanks in testing and got stuck.

All have to be careful as there are no fans to help.

[Rallyper]

Military excerices in the area of SS1, Pantealex reports. Several controls on the small road to stage.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

@DirtFishRally
#ArcticRallyFinland SS1 - Sarriojärvi (19.29 miles)

"There are crests on corners, compressions into heavy braking sections, and tricky cambers pulling the cars into snowbanks. An absolute ripper of a stage to start with."

[meh]

So... who is the first one to get stuck in snow-bank?

(it's not my hope, I'm just afraid that it ruins the show)

[EstWRC]

so all with 6 tyres except Tänak and Loubet

[TypeR]

so all with 6 tyres except Tänak and Loubet

likes to gamble..

[er88]

Here we go!!

[RS2500]

we are go !!!

[Rally Hokkaido]

Hi guys! Looking forward to this rally - really hard to pick a winner, IMHO.

[AnttiL]

so all with 6 tyres except Tänak and Loubet

Tänak learned nothing from Monte? :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bit of gravel already showing through.

[itix]

The stage should have started already, no?
Or is it just my all live that's acting up?

[Tanelv]

snow is tricking the on-board cameras, very underexposed image

[Rally Hokkaido]

The stage should have started already, no?
Or is it just my all live that's acting up?

All live is freezing up....lol

[itix]

Ok fixed. Had to uncast, and then recast.

It still played the pause pics and music.

I swear, this is the buggiest app ever.

[Sulland]

So no choice to make for drivers when it comes to tyres.
All are 7 mm, and that is it it seems from all live.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Oof snowbank bump by Ogier.

[Mirek]

I didn't play RBR for 11 years but it indeed looks like I remember Arctic from the game :)

And as an active skier I have to say that these visibility conditions on snow are extremely difficult.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

No snow glasses for Evans...

[EstWRC]

Kalle smashing the 1st split by 2 secs

[AnttiL]

Rovanperä 2 seconds up on first split!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville looks super-relaxed even for him. Up on the splits too.

[Mirek]

No snow glasses for Evans...

Every person perceives colors and light in a somewhat different way. You see that even professional race skiers use various colors of glasses for the same conditions. There is no universal solution for everyone.

[Sulland]

Real winter rally this one!
This is why sweden should have moved sooner. Varmland is with current climate too far south.
(even if it was perfect this yesr :-) )

[meh]

Need to keep in mind, that probably there is some cleaning and "road-development" effect in place.

[AnttiL]

Rovanperä flying, 5 seconds up

[RS2500]

amazing pictures ! more winter rallies please

[EstWRC]

Kalle already 8 up against Neuville on 3rd split

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kalle lost time...

[itix]

I didn't play RBR for 11 years but it indeed looks like I remember Arctic from the game :)

And as an active skier I have to say that these visibility conditions on snow are extremely difficult.It has a huge mod community so it's, apart from graphics, still probably the best rally game there is.

[TypeR]

Spin for Kalle? split 4 +3.5

[Mirek]

It has a huge mod community so it's, apart from graphics, still probably the best rally game there is.

I was myself the car admin on RBR Czech till autumn 2009, so I know (many of the people personally) ;)

[AnttiL]

Tänak fastest now on split 1

[AnttiL]

Greensmith his horribly off the pace again

[Mirek]

The static cameras at the end are awesome.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville's i20 looks really quick and stable.

[EstWRC]

seems Tänak has had a little mistake, gave 2 secs back to Kalle

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Greensmith his horribly off the pace again

No experience on snow and car problems on his PET wont help.

[AnttiL]

seems Tänak has had a little mistake, gave 2 secs back to Kalle

Well, Kalle lost 10 seconds in the middle of the stage so Tänak likely to win the stage

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kalle was stuck in a snowbank 10s.

[Mirek]

Kalle was off for a while.

[meh]

Well, Kalle lost 10 seconds in the middle of the stage so Tänak likely to win the stage

Too early.. there is also Breen coming... and Tänak need to reach to finish first.


But how it is going with your own heart-beat? :)

[EstWRC]

Well, Kalle lost 10 seconds in the middle of the stage so Tänak likely to win the stage


didnt gain much on 3rd split as well compared to Evans and Neuville

[itix]

I was myself the car admin on RBR Czech till autumn 2009, so I know (many of the people personally) ;)Cool!

[EstWRC]

Breen +0.8 in spl1

[AnttiL]

Oliver slower than Greensmith in first split, but I'm not expecting him to be any faster at this point.

[EstWRC]

weird 2nd and 3rd splits from Tänak where he didnt gain much or nothing at all

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hyundais taking it to the Toyotas !

[Essaj]

weird 2nd and 3rd splits from Tänak where he didnt gain much or nothing at all

He only gained where Kalle was off? How is that weird?

[EstWRC]

He only gained where Kalle was off? How is that weird?

i compared also to Neuville and to others and not to Kalle, Breen is having the same pattern at the moment


Kalle gained 1.3 seconds from Ott after spin

[mknight]

Loubet still running the much older spec car while Solberg has almost identical aero to the main team.

[Googol]

i compared also to Neuville and to others and not to Kalle, Breen is having the same pattern at the moment


Kalle gained 1.3 seconds from Ott after spin

3.9
5.1
6.6
8.4
11
11.6

Seems very steady for me. Maybe Neuville had a slow start.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Timid start by Suninen but car is still down on power here.

[Essaj]

Oliver is coming really nicely

[EstWRC]

All hyundais missing left rear part

[AnttiL]

weird 2nd and 3rd splits from Tänak where he didnt gain much or nothing at all

There's long straights on those split sectors. Otherwise the stage is technical.

[Mirek]

Great drive by Breen

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen not happy... 'shite' !

[EstWRC]

Breen not happy with this notes an time, Tänak said still too much understeer

[AnttiL]

Oh come on, what a lack of knowledge. Do not ever compare Bertelli and Tuohino in Arctic Rally.

So far, Bertelli faster ;) and Tuohino went off on shakedown

[Jewy46]

Brilliant.......
That was "shite" :)
Can't get more Irish than that!!

BTW it was far from shite, delighted with that run. Great to see Breen & Nagle back

[Sulland]

These two commentators are talking of things that does not matter.
Where is Mads?

[er88]

Well done Oliver. Had to stop and reverse so lost 10-12s too

[itix]

When I throw my subaru sideways in some empty parking lot somewhere and fill the wheels with snow, it vibrates like a motherF... due to imbalance.

Rally cars must have the same problem

[AnttiL]

Lappi is flying on WRC2, Mikkelsen already 9 seconds off at split 2

[Rally Hokkaido]

When I throw my subaru sideways in some empty parking lot somewhere and fill the wheels with snow, it vibrates like a motherF... due to imbalance.

Rally cars must have the same problem

If they land in a snow bank, yeah, though heat from the brakes would get rid of it in short time.

[Sulland]

And no Rally2 cars at all, what are they smoking in all-live?
Is this what I am paying for.

Maybe it back to eWRC again, this is a joke.

[itix]

If they land in a snow bank, yeah, though heat from the brakes would get rid of it in short time.True...
That's how I usually solve it as well. Left foot braking.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier lost 22s mostly due to road position. Will be tough to get that back here with the Hyundais also looking very strong.

[wwbroe]

Lappi going really well, let's see if he can make it to the finish.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Ogier lost 22s mostly due to road position. Will be tough to get that back here with the Hyundais also looking very strong.

Possibly, though with gravel showing at the start and end of this stage already might the pendulum swing back in his favour in SS2?

[dimviii]

dirtfishrally
@DirtFishRally
Want to know how deep the ice is in Sarriojärvi? Fire has the answer. ⁦@RallyFinland
⁩ (and if the picture’s not completely clear, the answer is an inch or two)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvJxcyaXEAE_cxI?format=jpg&name=large

[Lead]

Huttunen stopped?

[WRC1]

Oh come on, what a lack of knowledge. Do not ever compare Bertelli and Tuohino in Arctic Rally.

13.#37 Bertelli Lorenzo - Scattolin Simone Ford Fiesta WRC RC1 16:54.2 +56.4

14.#12 Tuohino Janne - Hämäläinen Reeta Ford Fiesta WRCtyre RC1 17:11.2 +1:13.4

would you describe how exectly you mean that?

[AnttiL]

Huttunen stopped?

apparently yes :(

[dimviii]

only 2 screens?https://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/oldforum/thumbsdown.gifhttps://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/smooth/tongue.gif

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvJSfUAXUAEST4z?format=jpg&name=large

[er88]

Lappi comfortably faster than Mikkelsen!

[Sulland]

Lappi 10 sec quicker than Mikkelsen in 31 km. Still got it!!

[Tauri_J]

1 min gaps are a joke, now Kaur catching Ekström.

[mknight]

Lappi 10 sec quicker than Mikkelsen in 31 km. Still got it!!

All of those 10s are from first 3 splits. After that they were pretty much equal. So likely going to be interesting.

[er88]

Lappi 10 sec quicker than Mikkelsen in 31 km. Still got it!!Gryazin faster than Andreas too. Wish we got to see the R5s on "AllLive", should be a very interesting battle

[AnttiL]

https://twitter.com/HuttunenRacing/status/1365304420028854272

Technical failure for Huttunen.

[AnttiL]

Emil Lindholm reporting that road is already pretty cut up. Interesting for SS2. Also reportedly snowing on the stage now.

[dimviii]

https://twitter.com/HuttunenRacing/status/1365304420028854272

Technical failure for Huttunen.

pitty..

[mknight]

Gryazin faster than Andreas too. Wish we got to see the R5s on "AllLive", should be a very interesting battle

Was 5 up at 4th then 2,8 at finish. Exciting to watch.

But yeah usually when there is TV stage they go back to alllive after with a short break.. not today.

[Lead]

All Polos drivers with good pace on this stage.

[AnttiL]

Huttunen

https://twitter.com/antsak1/status/1365308052379951107?s=21

[Rallyper]

only 2 screens?https://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/oldforum/thumbsdown.gifhttps://www.petrolheads.gr/images/smilies/smooth/tongue.gif

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvJSfUAXUAEST4z?format=jpg&name=large

Iphone as well... :) :)

[Jeppe]

13.#37 Bertelli Lorenzo - Scattolin Simone Ford Fiesta WRC RC1 16:54.2 +56.4

14.#12 Tuohino Janne - Hämäläinen Reeta Ford Fiesta WRCtyre RC1 17:11.2 +1:13.4

would you describe how exectly you mean that?

Well.. 1 stage done and Bertelli is ahead.
Maybe one should read some statistics of Tuohino´s performance in Arctic rallies throughout the years.

[Rallyper]

Pantealex told me it was raining 15 mins ago, actually. Think he is at photopoint in the middle of stage somewhere.

[Rallyper]

Well.. 1 stage done and Bertelli is ahead.
Maybe one should read some statistics of Tuohino´s performance in Arctic rallies throughout the years.

My point wasn´t about compairing them in speed or any of that kind. As I explained earlier. I just reccon biggest chances getting spectacular pics maybe was in their cars.

Me too want incar from WRC2.

[dimviii]

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_02_2021/post-157-0-81317800-1614353343.jpeg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Just saved it...
https://www.instagram.com/p/CLwaTN-Kz9Z/?igshid=qmvsyzz423d

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Rallirinki / Teemu @HartusvuoriWRC - Braking point after the first run SS Sarriojärvi.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvKUwHGWYAEAzyS?format=jpg&name=large

[dimviii]

https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2021/photos/arctic_rally_finland_powered_by_capitalbox_2021/hfr_dsc_0964.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2021/photos/arctic_rally_finland_powered_by_capitalbox_2021/hfr_dsc_0778.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2021/photos/arctic_rally_finland_powered_by_capitalbox_2021/hfr_dsc_4945.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/images/2021/photos/arctic_rally_finland_powered_by_capitalbox_2021/hfr_dsc_1043.jpg
https://www.ewrc.cz/foto/69715-arctic-rally-finland-powered-by-capitalbox-2021/515/

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hyundai rear aero damages:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvKTB-VWgAARaMN?format=jpg&name=medium

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvKI7zfXAAIYao4?format=jpg&name=large

[AnttiL]

Apparently raining water over the stage...

[Rallyper]

Apparently raining water over the stage...

Didn´t you believe me what I wrote? ;) ;)

[AnttiL]

Well.. 1 stage done and Bertelli is ahead.
Maybe one should read some statistics of Tuohino´s performance in Arctic rallies throughout the years.

But that was a long time ago. Same with Alen, Salonen, Vatanen and Kankkunen doing their 50th anniversary runs in Jyväskylä. They didn't fight for the win anymore.

[EstWRC]

Apparently raining water over the stage...

Such a shame the weather turned out so shit.

I’m kinda pissed off. Ogier will loose a lot I guess now

[AnttiL]

Didn´t you believe me what I wrote? ;) ;)

Sorry, missed your message :) but we have the same source.

[Rallyper]

Sorry, missed your message :) but we have the same source.

No problem mate. just joking a bit. Now SS2 in about 30 mins.

[dimviii]

Kalle Rovanperä reached the highest top-speed of all competitors in the opening test at 203.9kph (126.6mph), whilst Ott Tänak had the highest average speed throughout the stage at 114.4kph (71mph).

[PLuto]

Kalle Rovanperä reached the highest top-speed of all competitors in the opening test at 203.9kph (126.6mph), whilst Ott Tänak had the highest average speed throughout the stage at 114.4kph (71mph).

Which is not correct. Tänak's average speed was 116,70 km/h

[EstWRC]

Tänak shakedown onboard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AYl_Fuzx9Y

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvKbEHSXYAIHu8l?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

[dimviii]

Which is not correct. Tänak's average speed was 116,70 km/h

wrc.com was the source.

[AnttiL]

Kalle Rovanperä reached the highest top-speed of all competitors in the opening test at 203.9kph (126.6mph), whilst Ott Tänak had the highest average speed throughout the stage at 114.4kph (71mph).

Could that top speed be the car wheels in the air on a crest? The top speeds are rarely over 190 km/h.

Average speeds on SS1 are slower than I estimated.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Kalle's off in snowbank

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLwxyBwqeIy/?igshid=x5idindv3rsa

[Lead]

Its snowing, at least at the start.

[AnttiL]

Kalle's off in snowbank

https://www.instagram.com/p/CLwxyBwqeIy/?igshid=x5idindv3rsa

Evans from shakedown

[Lead]

Ostberg :wave:

[Sulland]

Lets see who have the best light for night driving!

[AnttiL]

Ogier's first split is 2.6 seconds faster than on first run.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans from shakedown

Good spot. Couldnt tell on my phone and guessed.