Wrc Deutschland 2017

[dimviii]

Timo Anis photos

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHiCVCfXkAA6e_i.jpg

https://web.facebook.com/pg/timoanisphotography/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1443161012430463

[Roy]

Is the rally over.

When the road is dry Neuville, Ogier, and I think even Mikkelsen are faster then Tänak. The Estonian did an amazing job. He handle the car good on tricky conditions and has a lot if luck today. But in dry situation it will be difficult for him to stay in front. I hope I am wrong. He did a really good job today.

[dimviii]

Latvala was running in the top five before he was slowed by an issue on the final stage of the morning loop. The Toyota mechanics replaced the ignition system during the mid-day service

https://toyotagazooracing.com/release/2017/wrc/rd10-day2.html

[dimviii]

Breen ss 8
https://twitter.com/fernischumi/status/898594498363572225

[dimviii]

Tanak mistake from another angle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dSpaMNX7L4


Teemu / Rallirinki‏*@HartusvuoriWRC 49 min
It just started to rain heavily/torrentially in #RallyDeutschland service park. Meaning tomorrow morning loop won't be dry...

[dimviii]

https://web.facebook.com/EpicRallyTribe2.0/videos/710643165800690/?_rdc=1&_rdr


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHiL0n9XcAIZYgS.jpg

[dimviii]

https://youtu.be/xjkD0o6DZ44

https://youtu.be/Zpmtn3uQw4w

[ziggysony]

video WRC rally Deutschland crash crews ok ,mistakes and show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zpmtn3uQw4w

[AnttiL]

I have to admit I was surprised to see Tänak do this well on tarmac. Also delighted to see Mikkelsen so high on a Citroen. Latvala could be fifth now without his engine problems, sad to see the car fail on him for the third time in a row.

The WRC+ daily highlights video apparently has a bug and stops at 12 minutes, but Redbull TV to the rescue...

[mknight]

I meant he is doing much better that the start of the season. Remember he had not done a WRC rally in years. Shows how important it is to compete regulary. Sure he has not done enough to get a seat for next year, but doing a good job for manufacturer points, just what he is supposed to do

Yes completely agree with what you wrote there.

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Things to watch today:

- Tanak on dry tarmac, in Corsica he was a bit behind the top 3 in speed, how about here.
- C3 on dry tarmac
- Ogier usually is very good on Panzerplatte, how about Neuville this year (related: tirewear on I20?)
- Breen vs Hanninen

[mknight]

Michelin Motorsport‏Verified account @Michelin_Sport 17m17 minutes ago
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Replying to @Michelin_Sport
#Tyre info - SS9 & SS10
Ogier/Tanak: 3 Michelin Pilot Sport S5 +2H5
Citroen/Latvala/Neuville/Sordo: 5S
Hanninen/Lappi: 5H
Paddon: 3H+2S

Finally Ogier and Neuville on different choice.

[KKS]

Hard tyres should be better on this loop

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHkPsLmVYAAdZFg.jpg

[KKS]

Ohhh Neuville

[mknight]

Neuville blew the champ?


... or it just loosened?

[EstWRC]

Neuvilles wheel off!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Crazy news...

[BigWorm]

Ahh shit

[mknight]

Looks like component issue.

Or hidden damage from the two offs yesterday.

[wrc2017]

Yes, Neuville's luck has ran out.
So You still believe that it's caused by luck that some drivers keep crashing every time while others crash nearly never?

[dimviii]

Sat 09:27 - SS9: Neuville update
What happened? "I have no idea." The wheel and tyre are attached, but at a crazy angle. There is no sign of damage to the wheel. He sets off to investigate.

[EstWRC]

the long stage now, judging by past years results then Ogier should win it easily and by a large margin.

[BigWorm]

Has he hit anything?

[mknight]

Maybe he will go safe-mode now though. (Ogier)

[EstWRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHk2fHyWAAA18bC.jpg

[HaCo]

I'm sitting at the long panzerplatte, judging from the picture over and out for TN :-(

[mknight]

Neuville moving now.

EDIT: Drove 50m and stopped again.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHk3KEfXUAA3Smo.jpg

[BigWorm]

Looks nasty that.

[HaCo]

⚠️ Rear left wheel damage for #Neuville on SS9. Team on the way to recover the car. #ADACRallye

[KKS]

https://scontent-frt3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/20914556_10155703665234973_842541827640676626_n.pn g.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=2beb39330d070d8fd06a986fb82805cd&oe=5A32D4E3
driveshaft lost aswell

[EstWRC]

Nicolas now saying to George Donaldson that they touched something in junction but not hard.

[BigWorm]

Crap. Power stage points it is then.

[bluuford]

There is nasty junction left where they took a bit too large cut..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Glad I turned on early for the short stage... you never know what will happen in rally !

[KKS]

Interesting splits so far. Hanninen hard tyres already pay off on 1st split

[EstWRC]

Paddon stopped

[mknight]

Paddon stopped

Relax. Unless it says "o kph" it's always just a glitch.

[HaCo]

Evans right door is open...

[Eli]

Game Over for Neuville in the championship? What do you think guys?

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[KKS]

Evans right door is open...
Too scary stage for Barritt? :D

[macebig]

Game Over for Neuville in the championship? What do you think guys?

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Too early to call..

[KKS]

Paddon +49 sec!

[HaCo]

So Paddon moving again then?

[mknight]

First sector clearly hards better, in second softs are gaing back a bit.

EDIT: 3rd also good for hards.

[Eric]

Game Over for Neuville in the championship? What do you think guys?

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Dont think its game over but would say its 70/30 now. Not 50/50 as it was before germany. Ogier is an expert when it comes to being smart and drive safe but fast.

[onemanband]

Paddon +49 sec!

+49 to Kremer! +1.42 min to Latvala.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Paddon now.. Hyundai disaster today.

[Eric]

This is a disaster for Hyundai

[HaCo]

Disaster for Hyundai

[mknight]

Paddon now.. Hyundai disaster today.

Too early for WDC but for manu this isn't looking good for Hyundai.

[Eli]

Paddon now.. Hyundai disaster today.All hopes for Manu. Title, seem all but gone for Hyundai...

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[BigWorm]

Game Over for Neuville in the championship? What do you think guys?

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No, not yet. Ogier can still retire in this rally.

[René]

It's not the Hyun'Day !

[Eric]

It's not the Hyun'Day !

:D

[dimviii]

Disaster for Hyundai

inside their headquarters,again a bad rally.
Lets hope Thierry can grab some points at ps,to keep the championship alive.

[KKS]

Paddon went out somewhere, cuz he is on pace after.

[dimviii]

Sat 10:06 - SS10: Kremer
First through in "I think our soft tyres were not the right ones here. The road was so dry we lost a lot of time."

Sat 10:05 - SS10: Paddon update
WRC TV crew reports rear damage on driver's side of Hayden's Hyundai

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak going well so far...

[KKS]

Paddon change tyre by 1.30 ? O_O so quick

[dimviii]

Paddon went out somewhere, cuz he is on pace after.

maybe tyre change

[mknight]

Tanak going well so far...

He and Ogier have 2 hards.

So Tanak will secure lead and Ogier close up to Mikkelsen.

[Eric]

Tanak 8,4 faster then Mikkelsen. Dont do anything stupid now Ott

[Fast Eddie WRC]

He and Ogier have 2 hards.

So Tanak will secure lead and Ogier close up to Mikkelsen.

1 hard on the car for Ogier.

[mknight]

1 hard on the car for Ogier.

Yeah I heard, very good job then.

[dimviii]

Evans with open door

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHk_i6TXYAAzIX_.jpg

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ogier closed to 15s o/a to Mikkelsen !

[mknight]

I am afaid most of the close battles are over now tbh.

No more tire choice worries for rest of the day and kind of big gaps.

Only second panzerplatte could bring more drama.

[KKS]

Yeah! Finally Meeke have some confidence!

[EstWRC]

Tänak kind of lucky again, he thought had a puncture 6kms from the end. tyres completely worn

[Fast Eddie WRC]

I am afaid most of the close battles are over now tbh.

No more tire choice worries for rest of the day and kind of big gaps.

Only second panzerplatte could bring more drama.

Plenty of kms to go and a lot can happen.

[BigWorm]

In WRC2, Camilli on great pace in this.

[EstWRC]

Ott Tänak‏ @OttTanak 2m2 minutes ago
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SS10: "Very tricky and lost the tyres towards the end. Clean run and happy with the time as I was really cautious. Feeling is there." #WRC

[Whinlatter]

Tidemand puncture towards end of Panzerplatte.

[BigWorm]

Teemu losing time as well.

[Mintexmemory]

At this pace Ogier should take second place this afternoon - Tanak fast becoming his main challenger!

[dimviii]

Camilli now just 7,9 sec from Kopecky


Tidemand after his puncture

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHlFD6wXgAEzvt8.jpg

[KKS]

Kopecky save tyres before Tyre Fitting zone? It's some special czech logic?

[RS]

Kopecky save tyres before Tyre Fitting zone? It's some special czech logic?

Maybe he meant he didn't want to wreck them early in the stage (ie. he drove to make them last the whole stage)

[dimviii]

DMACK Tyres‏*@DMACK_Tyres
Very quick tyre zone for @ElfynEvans , now heading to SS11 with three hard H6+BB and two soft S6+

[stefanvv]

Tidemand after his puncture

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHlFD6wXgAEzvt8.jpg

That's little more than a puncture - the hinkelstein?

[AnttiL]

Amazing Panzerplatte from Hänninen, hats off

[HaCo]

Amazing Panzerplatte from Hänninen, hats off
Exactly!

[dimviii]

no just drived plenty kms with puncture

[dimviii]

Amazing Panzerplatte from Hänninen, hats off

was the only one with full hards ifi remember correct.

[HaCo]

On ss Freisen now...

[WUff1]

Griebel also lost a lot of time and fell back to 12th in RC2.

[dimviii]

Neuville crabbing
https://web.facebook.com/BRFNachrichten/videos/664477900427106/?hc_ref=ARS-NeR5jH62e5imx7w1aOL-aRrOZcmNPKBq0WxaDunK8W55u5s3oZ5qq2odFpcO4MI&pnref=story&_rdc=1&_rdr

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHlJ9_wW0AEOMac.jpg:large

[dimviii]

Meeke/Sordo/Tanak/Ogier: 3 Michelin Pilot Sport H + 2S Mikkelsen: 3S+2H Breen: 5S Latvala/Hanninen: 4S+2H

[HaCo]

Lappi went into grass, lefthander Mirek, in front of us.

[HaCo]

Breen same spot :-)

[HaCo]

Breen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejlZl6w2iqw


Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikkelsen lost 10s... spin & stall !

[HaCo]

Mikkelsen stalling hairpin same spot:
https://youtu.be/NodBcupDk_U

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Tanak faster again.. Ogier still cant win one.

[rage82]

Juho is now fighting for4-th only 2.4 sec behind Evans. Fingers crossed to see some good battle between them

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[Fast Eddie WRC]

I am afaid most of the close battles are over now tbh.



Mikkelsen v Ogier ...5.3s

Evans v Hanninen... 2.4s

[mknight]

Mikkelsen v Ogier ...5.3s

Evans v Hanninen... 2.4s

Good that the drivers ensure it doesn't get boring :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Good that the drivers ensure it doesn't get boring :D

Way too early yet. Sunday we may see them settling for position.

[stefanvv]

Good that the drivers ensure it doesn't get boring :D

It is boring, Ogier & Hanninen will easily win their positions.

[HaCo]

Loubet off in the grass as well...

[N.O.T]

how much of a clown must a driver be to lose this championship because of super special mistakes ???? ridiculous and disgraceful....

[HaCo]

And Bonato as well :-)

[mknight]

And Bonato as well :-)

I have a good advice from Kopecky for that corner:

"Some tricky places, lots of mud. I just try to stay on the Tarmac. There's more grip there. "

[EstWRC]

on red bull tv they said it was Neuvilles mistake after all

[HaCo]

Kreim holds the record, a bit later silent, not sure :-)

[HaCo]

The Polish Peugeot even deeper :D

[A FONDO]

This is a disaster for Hyundai

In my predictions at Mintex's topic I said they will be confirmed manu champions after this rally. Turned out the opposite - their chances are 99% gone.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It is boring, Ogier & Hanninen will easily win their positions.

Hardly boring with half the rally remaining and so many variables...

[jonkka]

Breen checks in late, gets 10sec penalty, JML only seven seconds behind now.

[Mirek]

Lappi went into grass, lefthander Mirek, in front of us.

He doesn't retire in lefthanders 😋

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Boring ? Ogier just actually lost time to Mikkelsen.

[itix]

Why on earth was Paddon complaining about his drive? Looking to get 2nd best stage time unless Meeke or Sordo manages something

[EstWRC]

lol at Lappis comment, great humour

[dimviii]

Sat 12:31 - SS12: Evans
Fifth fastest on stage so far. He holds fourth place overall but Hanninen is now just eight-tenths behind. "The grip wasn't as good as I expected." His car has some rear-right damage courtesy of Breen who nudged his C3 into it before the stage.

[macebig]

Man, Meeke is a total wreck. Hope the Polizei cuts some slack on Tanak, cause without both side mirrors that Fiesta isn't road legal...

[BigWorm]

Why on earth was Paddon complaining about his drive? Looking to get 2nd best stage time unless Meeke or Sordo manages something

He's on hard tyres, others would probably have been even faster.

[itix]

He's on hard tyres, others would probably have been even faster.True, but still... Paddon is hardly a tarmac expert.

[EstWRC]

Man, Meeke is a total wreck. Hope the Polizei cuts some slack on Tanak, cause without both side mirrors that Fiesta isn't road legal...


in service already.

[macebig]

in service already.

Good to hear.

[dimviii]

Neuville where he cut.Doesnt seem so deep to have this damage.

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/monthly_08_2017/post-93-0-48864400-1503140039.jpg

[mknight]

He mentioned himself to TV reporters that there might have been some hidden damage from yesterday as well (the off was on left side too)

[AnttiL]

What a boring TV stage. Mostly just straight or junctions, only one single corner in the woods that seemed difficult. And you could tell it also from the small gaps between the top drivers.

[mknight]

What a boring TV stage. Mostly just straight or junctions, only one single corner in the woods that seemed difficult. And you could tell it also from the small gaps between the top drivers.

Yes and not a single stage yesterday from vineyards where it could have been easy to film and look epic at the same time. Also they only showed one run here. This year Deutschland is a real letdown from the years before.

Btw. this is from same stage:
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/898867571255943174

Much better than any of the TV shots.

[dimviii]

at rtbf he said that he didn't did any mistake,photos speak themselves

https://www.rtbf.be/auvio/detail_neuville-les-images-parlent-d-elles-memes-je-n-ai-pas-commis-d-erreur?id=2245490

[dimviii]

Gilsoul at rtbf

"It's really very cruel, we did not understand what happened," analyzed Nicolas Gilsoul at the microphone of Olivier Gaspard, the special envoy of the RTBF in Germany. Everybody is cutting off next to the road, there is a small five-centimeter fitting, which normally goes easily with our cars and tires, and there was a snag, and that broke the suspension. I do not think it's a bad idea, but it's incomprehensible, and it's a disaster for us, because the race is over here, and it's a good option for the title, but not all of them. "As long as mathematically, It will be necessary to count on us in the race for the title. We must try to evacuate these negative emotions to reconcile tomorrow on the continuation.

[stefanvv]

What a boring TV stage. Mostly just straight or junctions, only one single corner in the woods that seemed difficult. And you could tell it also from the small gaps between the top drivers.

Well, straße in Deutsch means just street, so it's nothing special for a rally.

[traxx]

at rtbf he said that he didn't did any mistake,photos speak themselves

https://www.rtbf.be/auvio/detail_neuville-les-images-parlent-d-elles-memes-je-n-ai-pas-commis-d-erreur?id=2245490

Yes, I think pictures speak themselves, here it's Neuville vs Ogier in the same corner

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHlyawFXkAAZ4lh.jpg:large

[BigWorm]

at rtbf he said that he didn't did any mistake,photos speak themselves

https://www.rtbf.be/auvio/detail_neuville-les-images-parlent-d-elles-memes-je-n-ai-pas-commis-d-erreur?id=2245490


Yes, I think pictures speak themselves, here it's Neuville vs Ogier in the same corner

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHlyawFXkAAZ4lh.jpg:large


Everyone except Ogier cut that corner though. Tänak, Mikkelsen, Evans took the same lines as Neuville.

[dimviii]

Yes, I think pictures speak themselves, here it's Neuville vs Ogier in the same corner

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHlyawFXkAAZ4lh.jpg:large
watch the traces from previous cars.Neuville is not the only one he passed from this.Except if he cutted more than the traces we see,something we cant see from these photos.

[dimviii]

Teemu / Rallirinki‏*@HartusvuoriWRC 23m
A police car entered the stage in Römerstrasse from an entrance road while stage is live for Opel Adam Cup. #WTF

[sonnybobiche]

Yes and not a single stage yesterday from vineyards where it could have been easy to film and look epic at the same time. Also they only showed one run here. This year Deutschland is a real letdown from the years before.

Btw. this is from same stage:
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/status/898867571255943174

Much better than any of the TV shots.


Actually if you think back, last year's rally deutschland was even worse. I could be wrong but I think there were something like 12 stages total, more than one was cancelled IIRC, and there were probably just two live stages, both the same crap superspecial. Last year made me genuinely angry. Looks like this (German) Promoter lets his German friends get away with very lazy organizing.

[stefanvv]

Yes, I think pictures speak themselves, here it's Neuville vs Ogier in the same corner

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHlyawFXkAAZ4lh.jpg:large

Basically Ogier didn't cut there at all.

EDIT: Tanak also cuts but his car was more straight, Neuville's was sideways already. Pure driver mistake imo.

[sonnybobiche]

teemu / rallirinki‏*@hartusvuoriwrc 23m
a police car entered the stage in römerstrasse from an entrance road while stage is live for opel adam cup. #wtf

omg omg omg lets drop rally deutschland for next year, it's ridiculous! Totally unacceptable for mistakes to happen!!!!!! Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee


How much do you want to bet these corrupt bastards don't mention a word of this, not even David Evans, who was so up in arms about the safety at Rally Poland. Hypocrites, all of them.

[KKS]

All: we want a rally!
Meeke: I want to eat!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHl5pt3XcAAQNtN.jpg

[KKS]

Michelin Motorsport‏ (https://twitter.com/Michelin_Sport)
#Tyre (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Tyre?src=hash) info - SS13 - SS14 & SS15 All Michelin @OfficialWRC (https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC) drivers with 5 Michelin Pilot Sport H5

[stefanvv]

Michelin Motorsport‏ (https://twitter.com/Michelin_Sport)
#Tyre (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Tyre?src=hash) info - SS13 - SS14 & SS15 All Michelin @OfficialWRC (https://twitter.com/OfficialWRC) drivers with 5 Michelin Pilot Sport H5


No surprises then.

[EstWRC]

what Henning thinks about that Neuville corner https://www.facebook.com/WorldRally/posts/10154920068370678

[stefanvv]

tricky place, not for gambling.

[bluuford]

That neuiville place was very tricky, this sharp edge was noticed by some drivers and marked as possible location for puncture. Neuville did a mistake by sliding into the edge there, this is basically like hitting kerb and that made the damage.. some hidden damage from yesterday, possibility as well.

[jparker]

.. some hidden damage from yesterday, possibility as well.
Don't they change the suspension at the end of the day?

[satukata]

Juho Hänninen now 4th! Great rally so far for Hänninen. Only his 2nd time in rally Germany!

[satukata]

looking forward.. next panzerplatte!

[seb_sh]

That neuiville place was very tricky, this sharp edge was noticed by some drivers and marked as possible location for puncture. Neuville did a mistake by sliding into the edge there, this is basically like hitting kerb and that made the damage.. some hidden damage from yesterday, possibility as well.

Probably just too sideways there.

[HaCo]

On the long Panzerplatte again, found a nice spot: double hairpin, coming from a long left full of gravel in the middle of the woods.

[rallye-vid]

On the long Panzerplatte again, found a nice spot: double hairpin, coming from a long left full of gravel in the middle of the woods.

Location please ;)

[HaCo]

Maybe it works:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/5EStjQqkyyB02qJA3

[rallye-vid]

Thx HaCo, saved ;)

[mknight]

So will now Ogier win first stage since Portugal? Before the rally I'd bet on it... now not so sure.

[KKS]

Don't think so... If Ogier want to attack Mikkelsen he didn't do it at Panzerplatte

[EstWRC]

where else then?

[KKS]

where else then?
at more safe stages.... Attack on Platte and forgive Neuville his mistake?

[stefanvv]

So will now Ogier win first stage since Portugal? Before the rally I'd bet on it... now not so sure.

Probably not, but may be up on Mikkelsen though

[KKS]

Paddon missing split... all ok?

[KKS]

Latvala crashed :(

[AnttiL]

Latvala crashed :(

You know it's a crash, not technical or a puncture?

[Mirek]

at more safe stages.... Attack on Platte and forgive Neuville his mistake?

No, Panzerplatte is the place to attack because on safer stages everybody can push. The decisive stages are always the hardest and the longest because if you are better, you can gain much more there.

[KKS]

You know it's a crash, not technical or a puncture?
I don't know.... it'a a hurry guess based on his so fast pace.

[mknight]

Gotta love long stages when following on internet, you have one driver fast in one sector, then slow in next. Driver with tirewear etc...

So much better than short stages without splits.

[HaCo]

Slow upload, please enjoy Latvala: https://youtu.be/S95mMXvhr1o

[KKS]

No, Panzerplatte is the place to attack because on safer stages everybody can push. The decisive stages are always the hardest and the longest because if you are better, you can gain much more there.
And you can risk your own 3rd position and 15pts for a possible +3pts?

[HaCo]

Mikkelsen and Tanak even wider!

[Mirek]

And you can risk your own 3rd position and 15pts for a possible +3pts?

That's not me who makes the choice. I pointed out that the place to realistically gain something is the hard place, not an easy one.

[AnttiL]

Breen flying on the fourth split

EDIT: or everyone else were slow ahead of him?

[KKS]

I don't think that Ogier will goes for that risk

[mknight]

Breen flying on the fourth split

Yep that's exactly why I love long stages.

[stefanvv]

Mikkelsen really wants this.

[AnttiL]

Hartusvuori reports on twitter about possible rear wheel damage on Hänninen

EDIT: apparently a damper broken

[mufcAleksi]

What happened to Meeke? Or is the GPS broken

[KKS]

Breen could half his gap to Evans on one stage

[Rallyper]

Citroens working well in Germany, I believe. Good for the sport they hanging in again!

[mknight]

I bet Ogier won't win this stage, either Mikkelsen, Tanak or Sordo (fastest 2nd split).

[René]

What happened to Meeke? Or is the GPS broken

It seems he stopped before the start of the stage 15

[KKS]

Meeke didn't start yet :(

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SAT 16:21 - SS15: LATVALA
He's through with the loss of 1m45s to Paddon. "We had a puncture about 30km," he explains. "Maybe just a small stone went through the tread. It was a slow puncture."

[er88]

Citroens working well in Germany, I believe. Good for the sport they hanging in again!We already knew they had a good tarmac car. Please keep up ;)

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[KKS]

Kopecky in trouble here too...

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikkelsen beats Ogier by 3.2s !

[mknight]

For me Ogier 2-3 cars behind on Panzerplatte means he's not pushing.

[Ucci]

For me Ogier 2-3 cars behind on Panzerplatte means he's not pushing.

Correct!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

For me Ogier 2-3 cars behind on Panzerplatte means he's not pushing.

Sébastien Ogier‏: "It was OK. Maybe I could have pushed more but it was a clean stage for me"

Andreas Mikkelsen‏ : “Finally I mastered this stage, first time ever! Can always push more, but need to take care of tyres. Still in the fight!”

[stefanvv]

Mikkelsen beats Ogier by 3.2s !

On last split it was 5.6 secs. Tyres shot?

[EstWRC]

damn i wished to see what Tänak is capable of when pushing but of course it would have been stupid to do.:D Great pace even when driving safe.

[KKS]

That was a reason. Ogier think about championship, but not about taking stupid risks to move up by one place

[BigWorm]

Kopecky +2 mins at second split.

[er88]

For me Ogier 2-3 cars behind on Panzerplatte means he's not pushing.Very wise. He wouldn't have expected to take this many pts from Neuville here. He can drive within himself to another title now (I was hoping for a super close fight to the last round until Neuville's retirement here).

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[steve.mandzij]

What an awful rally for both Paddon and Latvala. From the get go they both seemed completely out of tune with their driving, IMO. I hope their confidence or concentration comes back for Spain, or the power stage at least.

Pleasant surprise from Hanninen too, every time I think he should go he's not too bad.

Also, knowing Mikkelsen's luck Tanak will crash on the power stage and he'll win.

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[EstWRC]

What an awful rally for both Paddon and Latvala. From the get go they both seemed completely out of tune with their driving, IMO. I hope their confidence or concentration comes back for Spain, or the power stage at least.

Pleasant surprise from Hanninen too, every time I think he should go he's not too bad.

Also, knowing Mikkelsen's luck Tanak will crash on the power stage and he'll win.

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way to go dude!

[Mirek]

Kopecky +2 mins at second split.

Ty change most likely, third split ok.

[KKS]

Meeke retire for today.

And now just imagine if he run at his own pace without that stupid mistake on Thursday

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville must be happy that its Mikkelsen in the C3 to take points off Ogier...

[stefanvv]

What an awful rally for both Paddon and Latvala

Paddon is going well today.

[mknight]

Anyway interesting 4-6 place fight.

Does Hanninen have a spare damper? Else he will loose more.
Evans loosing prbly also due to tires and Breen charging

[Mirek]

Anyway interesting 4-6 place fight.

Does Hanninen have a spare damper? Else he will loose more.
Evans loosing prbly also due to tires and Breen charging

Anyone carries spare dampers?

[mknight]

Anyone carries spare dampers?

I seem to recall someone had one, but it was on some slow gravel rally without service, extremely unlikely here.

[Ucci]

Neuville must be happy that its Mikkelsen in the C3 to take points off Ogier...

It is not end yet!!

[BigWorm]

Neuville must be happy that its Mikkelsen in the C3 to take points off Ogier...

That's what I'm hoping for this rally. And that Thierry wins the Powerstage. Also that Ogier has a mechanical failure.

[Mirek]

Both Kopecky and Lappi FL puncture

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It is not end yet!!

You still think Ogier will risk trying to beat Mikkelsen ?

[satukata]

poor stage for finns. Puncture for latvala lappi and suninen. and broken damper for hänninen

[Ucci]

You still think Ogier will risk trying to beat Mikkelsen ?
Not likely, but driver's error can happen any time.

[seb_sh]

Out of everyone I'm most impressed with Hanninen so far this rally, compared to his usual form.

[Ucci]

Out of everyone I'm most impressed with Hanninen so far this rally, compared to his usual form.
Definetely a positive surprise on this event.

[Rallyper]

You still think Ogier will risk trying to beat Mikkelsen ?

Yes, he should. To prove he is fast. ;)

[Ucci]

Yes, he should. To prove he is fast. ;)

Will see who is right or wrong...

[Mirek]

Guys, if Mikkelsen wins how do You know if Ogier tried or not? Hmm 😋

[focus206]

If Neuville gets the PS and Ogier doesn't gain any positions, he still has chances... but I don't see Ogier ending up 3rd in this rally.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHmeE4jXYAEHS6A.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHmeE4pXgAEHv5Q.jpg

[stefanvv]

Guys, if Mikkelsen wins how do You know if Ogier tried or not? Hmm 

Well at least he is not taking any chances, like the one with Neuville's corner. That much is visible from the onboards.

[noel157]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHmeE4jXYAEHS6A.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHmeE4pXgAEHv5Q.jpg

Aero pack working just fine......

[dimviii]

Ogier ss 2 mistake
https://youtu.be/1mui2wOE03g

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Some aero is working better ...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHmeE5RXsAANxl3.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHmeJb-XsAEfpLg.jpg

[itix]

Didn't see it posted here, but very honest interview with Neuville on the radio now.

He says he will be taking a more aggressive approach to the championship now and taking more risks to close the gap to Ogier. He is not interested in second in the championship.

When asked about the car, he feels there are some areas they can improve on, mainly aerodynamics and engine power. "it is not so bad".

He feels like his team mates are a good support and hope to be able to rely on them to help him get the championship.

That was the major points from it.

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHmODunXUAA8kKC.jpg

https://twitter.com/MKiviaho/status/898889962757570560

[Fast Eddie WRC]

He feels like his team mates are a good support and hope to be able to rely on them to help him get the championship.


Really ? Not sure about that.

[er88]

Didn't see it posted here, but very honest interview with Neuville on the radio now.

He says he will be taking a more aggressive approach to the championship now and taking more risks to close the gap to Ogier. He is not interested in second in the championship.

When asked about the car, he feels there are some areas they can improve on, mainly aerodynamics and engine power. "it is not so bad".

He feels like his team mates are a good support and hope to be able to rely on them to help him get the championship.

That was the major points from it.His team mates clearly aren't up to the task this season. That's why he's probably even mentioned them there, can easily read between the lines.

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[EstWRC]

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[macebig]

Probably a face saving move by Neuville. Remember in Sardegna he openly stated his team mates are useless...

[dimviii]

His team mates clearly aren't up to the task this season. That's why he's probably even mentioned them there, can easily read between the lines.

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he is talking about Paddon at Aus

[dimviii]

at French forum they said its water pump failure

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHmYXxCW0AEn2bu.jpg

[KKS]

1S MSport hope use it at last stage when temp down?

[KKS]

Evans on attack on Hanninen

[jonkka]

Evans on attack on Hanninen

Rather, Hanninen is slow and Evans is not.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

he is talking about Paddon at Aus

And maybe Sordo in Spain.

[itix]

His team mates clearly aren't up to the task this season. That's why he's probably even mentioned them there, can easily read between the lines.

Sent from my SM-G920F using TapatalkHe was straight on asked if he felt like they were support and he replied yes, so it wasn't him bringing it up.

I also feel like he was being media correct but Sordo has done well in Spain before and Paddon could do well in GB and Australia.

Counting on both of them though is a bit much. Ogier has better support in both Tänak and Evans i believe.

[Allez Andruet]

Will be a tight battle between Hänninen, Evans and Breen tomorrow. Juho probably will lose some 10 seconds on the last one as well with the broken damper.

[KKS]

Rather, Hanninen is slow and Evans is not.
Hanninen pass him earlier on pure speed and now have broken damper. And Evans trying to back his place

[Mirek]

Evans on attack on Hanninen

Juho has damaged damper.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Looks like finally a stage win for Ogier, first since Portugal !! :D

[jparker]

For me Ogier 2-3 cars behind on Panzerplatte means he's not pushing.

It doesn't look that way after last stage.
They both want that 2nd, but so far "the real man" is failing.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It doesn't look that way after last stage.
They both want that 2nd, but so far "the real man" is failing.

Mikkelsen has no pressure here. Ogier has everything to lose.

@SebOgier - "I can't go for crazy risks for 3 more points but I keep the pressure on and let's see what happens.

[HaCo]

At Romerstrasse now, will it rain?

[EstWRC]

and finallyyyy, a stage win for Ogier since portugal

[mknight]

Mikkelsen has no pressure here. Ogier has everything to lose.

He has no contract for 2018 or any more rallies this year. Ogier has 4 titles and has same points as Neuville.

[KKS]

Next stage will be more same as this. Ogier will be on soft attack on Mikkelsen

[jparker]

If Neuville gets the PS and Ogier doesn't gain any positions, he still has chances... but I don't see Ogier ending up 3rd in this rally.

You probably think Ogier is driving Polo in 2016.

[BigWorm]

I bet Ogier is having that!

[jparker]

He has no contract for 2018 or any more rallies this year. Ogier has 4 titles and has same points as Neuville.

Absolutely, I'm not saying otherwise, I'm just addressing some "who is the real man" statements from yesterday.
Yet, Mikkelsen/C3 combo looks beter now.

[Mirek]

By the way Huttunen is again completely dominant in 2wd.

[Allez Andruet]

By the way Huttunen is again completely dominant in 2wd.
What a time to be a Finn - the Golden Era will return.

[dimviii]

Mads and Henning

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHmzuLgXkAEiKQC.jpg:large

[Rallyper]

Mads and Henning

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHmzuLgXkAEiKQC.jpg:large

Driving Opel! :)

[KKS]

Now Tanak must didn't something stupid. Keep it calm allll Sunday

[EstWRC]

very nice and clean day from Tänak! from all the top three actually!

[dimviii]

What a time to be a Finn - the Golden Era will return.

need much work though.Be fast at home rally isn't enough.

Latvala after ss 17

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHm06MVWAAA1m9v.jpg

[AnttiL]

Lappi's comment on WRC radio in Finnish: "a bad day".

[focus206]

You probably think Ogier is driving Polo in 2016.

I think that Germany is a tricky rally and while Ogier rarely makes big mistakes, that is not the case for Tanak and Mikkelsen. And also we have the C3's reliability as question mark. But for the sake of the championship (and Neuville), I hope he won't get more than 3rd.

[dimviii]

Driving Opel! :)

and watching results from ewrc.cz

[Allez Andruet]

need much work though.Be fast at home rally isn't enough.
Don't worry, we'll take over and conquer the whole series for a while.