Rallye France Alsace 2013

[Marcco]

It's a shame Loeb's and Ogier's carriers didn't overlap to much. It would have been interesting to see them fighting more... Loeb was great, now Ogier is good, but only time will tell if he is as good (or better?) as Loeb. Anyhow this year Ogier is true champion, beat all the field fair & square, just like Loeb :)

[jonkka]

If Ogier retires from the rally, will be still keep the Power Stage point/s? Or will he loose them if he doesn't complete it? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I don't know but never in WRC history has anyone scored points after retiring. In Monte Carlo they have classified last leg retirees as finishers in final overall classification but I don't recall if any of those scored points.

[jonkka]

Ah, found it in the regulations:

13.3.4 Attribution of ‘Power Stage’ points.
Points will be awarded according to scale as described in Art. 5.4.3.
For the purpose of allocating points, the Power Stage Classification shall be calculated using the stage time plus any other time penalty accrued on this stage, including any false start penalty.
To score points, a driver must be classified in the Final Official Classification of the rally

[eestlane]

But if Sordo retires on the last day does Neuville get 3 points for the powestage then?

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 6Xnjy46VuE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c6Xnjy46VuE)

[bluuford]

Sky is pretty clear this morning. For the afternoon, the forecast is light rain.

I would say that there will be no rain on today stages, nearly no wind, temperature morning i +12..+15, next stage +16..+19 (theremight be some damp places as there was little rain overnight), final stage +18..+21.
Afternoon between +18.. and +23
Rain comes during the night

[jonkka]

But if Sordo retires on the last day does Neuville get 3 points for the powestage then?

No because Sordo was 1st on that stage, stage classification doesn't change due to retirement. Exclusion is a different matter as driver may be excluded from stage classifications as well as from final classification (or this may be just wrc.com's style).

[dimviii]

Loeb had 2 capuccinos today morning.

[Bartek]

The Master is flying !!!

Old fox vs rest 1:0

Ostberg and Hirvonen :erm:

[dimviii]

1 year to compete at wrc asphalt......faster at 1st real stage without better position

Loeb is lucky....


lololololol

[dimviii]

Kostka stopped at stage i hear?

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen with nice time!

[stefanvv]

The Rally is live - http://www.sport-team.org/site/chaine12.html

[noel157]

Nice onboards and heli shots, pity we don't get more live coverage.

[stefanvv]

SS3 is 10 mins delayed?!?

[Ucci]

Kubica smashed Evans !

[dimviii]

Master at stage 2
http://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBgpaH ... -pBGvVzg64 (http://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBgpaHR0cHM6Ly90d2l0cGljLmNvbS9zaG93L2 xhcmdlL2RmejMwdS5qcGcUsAkUngYAFgASAA&s=L4mwVNjwQCzBwDTcEVmJrT3iX8kW6M95Z-pBGvVzg64)

[dimviii]

whats happening guys? Nobody writes here at the rally we all waiting for? :(

Loeb ruined the sport :D

[A FONDO]

The live footage is great today, wonderful job. Really overshadowed eurosport.

[dimviii]

rain started with Loeb after start?

[stefanvv]

Started to rain

[wrc1600]

whats happening guys? Nobody writes here at the rally we all waiting for? :(

Loeb ruined the sport :D
I guess jaws dropped... :)

[tommeke_B]

Rain on SS Pays d'Ormont, go Thierry! :p

[stefanvv]

Neuville & Sordo are on 2 hards 2 softs, the rest 4 hards

[focus206]

I hope Dani will hold on the fight with the Sebs... at least for a bit ;)
Mads and Evgeny even slower than Martin Prokop... different set-up or something like that or... just being them?

[dimviii]

[SS3] Sebastien Loeb (Citroen) 7:46.6 "At the moment it is going well. I was not so confident when the morning started. Already some drops (rain) in this one. It start to be muddy on the road."


he is not confident yet.... :skull: :vader: :skull: :vader:

[stefanvv]

Neuville & Sordo are on 2 hards 2 softs, the rest 4 hards
It's Ostberg actually not Sordo

[stefanvv]

Citroen are going really well for the moment, especially Loeb (of course)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SS3 - another Loeb win and goes ahead of the world champion ! :eek: ;)

[dimviii]

inside 4 sec first 5 crews.Nice!

what about Kostka?

[tommeke_B]

he is not confident yet.... :skull: :vader: :skull: :vader:
Thierry will beat him anyway. :p

[stefanvv]

what about Kostka?
Stopped on previous stage I think

[Delta_HF]

Loeb in a mission ! :D

[stefanvv]

Loeb in a mission ! :D
Nah, he is just having fun, for the last time :D

[dimviii]

he is not confident yet.... :skull: :vader: :skull: :vader:
Thierry will beat him anyway. :p
how many beers? :p

[dimviii]

Loeb in a mission ! :D
Nah, he is just having fun, for the last time :D

before some hours you said that he stopped rallies because he saw that he is not so fast.
did we had a bet with some beers,or i dont remember correct?

[Ucci]

Evans on third stage??

[dimviii]

ss4
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVuBVEcIEAAnTxv.jpg

[bluuford]

If my radar pictures are correct, then this picture is old. Rain left the area already for some time ago.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Slow Ogier sticking to the speed limit ? :laugh:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVuAQ1BIAAA7rQ6.jpg:large :

[Mirek]

Barrable also out? WRC2 looks like a joke comparing to Kubica and even 2WD drivers...

[A FONDO]

SS4 live in 3 minutes http://www.sport-team.org/site/chaine12.html

[stefanvv]

Loeb in a mission ! :D
Nah, he is just having fun, for the last time :D

before some hours you said that he stopped rallies because he saw that he is not so fast.
did we had a bet with some beers,or i dont remember correct?
:D 3 beers it was.
I never said Loeb is not that fast, you misinterpret my words. I just said he doesn't seem to want it anymore

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Longest stage coming up ...

[stefanvv]

SS4 looks pretty dry

EDIT, but only at beginning

[Zeropt]

Go Sordo!!

[tommeke_B]

he is not confident yet.... :skull: :vader: :skull: :vader:
Thierry will beat him anyway. :p
how many beers? :p
Let's keep it on 2. How many do you still owe me BTW? :p

[Zeropt]

Neuville on a bit of a flyer in this one. :)

[Mirek]

Thierry massively fast!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Allez Neuville !!

[focus206]

Neuville super-fast or Ogier slow? :eek:

[Zeropt]

Look out for Latvala!! :eek:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loeb is coming !

[Zeropt]

Same time at the end of 34.34km... impressive!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Loeb is going to smash Ogier here !

[drive]

Loeb is going fast, I hope not to fast... Still many KM to come, lets not jump to early conlusions, we will know rally winner only on Sunday afternoon :)

But today Loeb does what he knows best - drives fast as hell :eek:

[polo10]

Why are you talking so much that Loeb is beating Ogier???? Ogier is making a bad rally, Loeb must beat the others too, and so far he is not that much faster than Latvala for exemple that is not a tarmac specialist...Take it easy, but a bad performance for Ogier today, the worst since the beggining of the Championship

[Mirek]

Loeb is going to smash Ogier here !

So far it's exactly how Ogier shall not become a new champion after Loeb's era. I fully agree with NOT that this years Loeb's starts give an impression that Ogier becomes a champion just because Loeb allows him to do so...

[stefanvv]

Too much champain last night :)

[Zeropt]

Too much champain last night :)

:laugh:

[drive]

Loeb is going to smash Ogier here !

So far it's exactly how Ogier shall not become a new champion after Loeb's era. I fully agree with NOT that this years Loeb's starts give an impression that Ogier becomes a champion just because Loeb allows him to do so...

you must be joking - Ogier has dominated all year... if to take him out of this year competition, then your remarks has some sence as no other clear winner has emerged from the rest. But anyhow - rally NOT FINNISHED YET! ;)

[A FONDO]

Why are you talking so much that Loeb is beating Ogier???? Ogier is making a bad rally, Loeb must beat the others too, and so far he is not that much faster than Latvala for exemple that is not a tarmac specialist...Take it easy, but a bad performance for Ogier today, the worst since the beggining of the Championship
well said

[rallyfun]

Why are you talking so much that Loeb is beating Ogier???? Ogier is making a bad rally, Loeb must beat the others too, and so far he is not that much faster than Latvala for exemple that is not a tarmac specialist...Take it easy, but a bad performance for Ogier today, the worst since the beggining of the Championship
What else would you want to read? Loeb beats everyone today regardless others form or bad luck.

[tommeke_B]

Did Riedemann have any problem on service yesterday? He was late on TC1C service out/ parc fermé in...

[polo10]

Why are you talking so much that Loeb is beating Ogier???? Ogier is making a bad rally, Loeb must beat the others too, and so far he is not that much faster than Latvala for exemple that is not a tarmac specialist...Take it easy, but a bad performance for Ogier today, the worst since the beggining of the Championship
What else would you want to read? Loeb beats everyone today regardless others form or bad luck.
That for exemple in this last SS the road was more dry for him than for Neuville or Latvala for example...I think Loeb is the best ever, but i don t understand all the excitment for the performance today, i was used to see much better from him..OK,Ok i know you are going to say that is the 4 th rally only this season, bla bla bla...

[Mirek]

you must be joking - Ogier has dominated all year... if to take him out of this year competition, then your remarks has some sence as no other clear winner has emerged from the rest. But anyhow - rally NOT FINNISHED YET! ;)

I'm not joking. Loeb and Ogier competed 3x this season against each other and Loeb although retired won twice. Now it's fourth time and everything looks like Loeb will win again. Maybe now You understand what I or NOT mean. It's not about the others being beaten in the championship by either one of the two but about the fights of the two.

[Francis44]

I like how everyone forgets Rally Sweden, Ogier beat Loeb with a margin over 40 seconds.

[tommeke_B]

I like how everyone forgets Rally Sweden, Ogier beat Loeb with a margin over 40 seconds.
I don't think anybody forgets it. But that is only one out of 4 events. :)

[rallyfun]

Why are you talking so much that Loeb is beating Ogier???? Ogier is making a bad rally, Loeb must beat the others too, and so far he is not that much faster than Latvala for exemple that is not a tarmac specialist...Take it easy, but a bad performance for Ogier today, the worst since the beggining of the Championship
What else would you want to read? Loeb beats everyone today regardless others form or bad luck.
That for exemple in this last SS the road was more dry for him than for Neuville or Latvala for example...I think Loeb is the best ever, but i don t understand all the excitment for the performance today, i was used to see much better from him..OK,Ok i know you are going to say that is the 4 th rally only this season, bla bla bla...
I have no idea what are you on about, he drives purly for fun his last rally and doesn't have to prove anything or beat anyone so I guess he drives with no pressure and still is the fastest. Looks like you are looking for excuses with road condition and Loeb not being fast enough for you....

[rallyfun]

I like how everyone forgets Rally Sweden, Ogier beat Loeb with a margin over 40 seconds.
Last stage Loeb beats Ogier by over 20s.

[Mintexmemory]

you must be joking - Ogier has dominated all year... if to take him out of this year competition, then your remarks has some sence as no other clear winner has emerged from the rest. But anyhow - rally NOT FINNISHED YET! ;)

I'm not joking. Loeb and Ogier competed 3x this season against each other and Loeb although retired won twice. Now it's fourth time and everything looks like Loeb will win again. Maybe now You understand what I or NOT mean. It's not about the others being beaten in the championship by either one of the two but about the fights of the two.

In any duel the challenger cedes choice of ground to the challenged. Loeb however has chosen the ground for the 4 duels so this was bound to be in his favour. As for being 'retired' , he hasn't exactly been sitting in his mansion gorging on foie gras and pinot noir while making a ship in a bottle!! He was always going to win MC against a team doing its first rally, I count Mexico and Sweden as the 2 real competitions - 1 apiece. Alsace and Loeb is like Loix and Ypres or Ucci and Sanremo. While Ogier has hit a problem this morning it is very interesting that Latvala has maintained the speed he revealed in Germany. This has a long way to go but I congratulate the new (and worthy) champ and hope that If Loeb wins he is doing it against close competition - a memorable way to bow out - Chapeau l'artitste

edit: Of course I meant Argentina not Mexico - doh!

[tommeke_B]

Funny how some people always feel the need to minimize the performance of Loeb. People should do that in every sport... "Usain Bolt made another world record? That's not so special, there were only few people to compete against... And he probably had the best shoes!"

[AMSS]

Funny how some people always feel the need to minimize the performance of Loeb. People should do that in every sport... "Usain Bolt made another world record? That's not so special, there were only few people to compete against... And he probably had the best shoes!"
I completely agree, though Loeb hasn`t been just sitting around it`s still 5months away from rallying and close to a year away from a proper tarmac rally. I like to see anybody else manage this!
And don`t forget how many mileages he hasn`t done rally testing compared to others. As well as Hirvonens comments that Citroen is behind VW in development. That`s just blown out of the window at the moment.
All credit to Ogier who`s a worthy champion but there`s still along way before we can even compare him to Loeb in my opinion..

[Mirek]

Suaréz out?

[andyone]

All i can say is. Loeb used to win cleaning the road for all. That i call a pro

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[Rallyper]

Maybe the Loeb and Ogier issue should be handled in another topic, I dont know.

So back to Rallye de France Alsace:

What about the performance of Evans, Kubica, Tidemand?

[bluuford]

Suarez rolled at the very beginning of the last stage

[NxOxT]

2.5 days of pain still... just be patient everything will be over soon...

still long way to go though, i would like Neuville to win here... It would be a disaster for the championship for Loeb to make the girls cry once more...maybe.

[jolle1982]

Anybody can say what they want. Loeb is one of the fastest drivers on tarmac. Last week hr won a fia gt race on a mclaren. Perfect training for rally de france.

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[thuGG]

What about the performance of Evans, Kubica, Tidemand?

Shame about Evans problem, because Kubica doesn't need to push anymore.

[dimviii]

Funny how some people always feel the need to minimize the performance of Loeb. People should do that in every sport... "Usain Bolt made another world record? That's not so special, there were only few people to compete against... And he probably had the best shoes!"
I completely agree, though Loeb hasn`t been just sitting around it`s still 5months away from rallying and close to a year away from a proper tarmac rally. I like to see anybody else manage this!
And don`t forget how many mileages he hasn`t done rally testing compared to others. As well as Hirvonens comments that Citroen is behind VW in development. That`s just blown out of the window at the moment.
All credit to Ogier who`s a worthy champion but there`s still along way before we can even compare him to Loeb in my opinion..

agree 100% Loeb has 1/10 of test/rally km this year,5 months from wrc,1 year from wrc asphalt.
its strange how Ogier has always problems when Loeb competes.
Ogier before 2 years wanted to be No1 at citroen while was behind in points from Loeb.......

[dimviii]

. While Ogier has hit a problem this morning

what problem Mintexmemory?

[NxOxT]

. While Ogier has hit a problem this morning

what problem Mintexmemory?

the problem called Sebastien Loeb... it is the same obstacle drivers face for 9 years now... it is a nightmare.

[dimviii]

Why are you talking so much that Loeb is beating Ogier???? Ogier is making a bad rally, Loeb must beat the others too, and so far he is not that much faster than Latvala for exemple that is not a tarmac specialist...Take it easy, but a bad performance for Ogier today, the worst since the beggining of the Championship

its not the worst.Acropolis Monte,Argentina...

thats why Loeb is best.Always for fight for 1st place,any rally,any year,any circumstances.There is no excuses about setup,handbrakes,didnt sleep well even for 1 rally in 10 years.

[dimviii]

the problem called Sebastien Loeb... it is the same obstacle drivers face for 9 years now... it is a nightmare.

thats Loebphobia.

[dimviii]

I like how everyone forgets Rally Sweden, Ogier beat Loeb with a margin over 40 seconds.

so little? look the gap at Monte,Argentina.

[NxOxT]

Why bother replying to people who suffered for 9 years ??? don't you have a heart ???

2.5 days guys... you endured 9 years of constant beating and humiliation... 2.5 days is nothing... i believe in you.

[wrc1600]

Long way to go but Ogier shuoldn't have pumped up this ultimate fight against Loeb bubble. Now it's frustraiting for all Ogier fans and Loeb haters.

[NxOxT]

Now it's frustraiting for all Ogier fans and Loeb haters.

they are used to it...

[dimviii]

Looks like you are looking for excuses with road condition and Loeb not being fast enough for you....

same story,plenty of years.

He was at the best team with big budget.
evolution of car was by him
no strong competition.
Now Ogier has the team with bigger budget by far,evolution of polo by him,other competitiors are no way near McRae,Sainz,Gronholm,Solberg.
but nobody mention all this for Ogier.Only for Loeb.
As you can see even with all these(budget.evolution of car,not big drivers competition) is not easy to dominate for so many years.
Actually is difficult to be fast at EVERY rally you compete for 9 years in a row.
Ogier for sure is the best of the rest with big gap.But like Loeb NOT yet.

[stefanvv]

Actually is difficult to be fast at EVERY rally you compete for 9 years in a row.
That's very true

[wrc1600]

Looks like you are looking for excuses with road condition and Loeb not being fast enough for you....

same story,plenty of years.

He was at the best team with big budget.
evolution of car was by him
no strong competition.
Now Ogier has the team with bigger budget by far,evolution of polo by him,other competitiors are no way near McRae,Sainz,Gronholm,Solberg.
but nobody mention all this for Ogier.Only for Loeb.
As you can see even with all these(budget.evolution of car,not big drivers competition) is not easy to dominate for so many years.
Actually is difficult to be fast at EVERY rally you compete for 9 years in a row.
Ogier for sure is the best of the rest with big gap.But like Loeb NOT yet.
Agree, the truth is we have to wait at least eight years to compare anyone or anything in WRC. Before then it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

[stefanvv]

I'm kind of dissapointed of Ogier's pace today. Latvala shows what Polo obviously can do here, for sure Ogier can be faster than him

[jcatanho]

I don't know but never in WRC history has anyone scored points after retiring. In Monte Carlo they have classified last leg retirees as finishers in final overall classification but I don't recall if any of those scored points.

Actually in 1999 there was a power stage in Tour de Corse and in Thousand Lakes rally (Finland). The official name was not Power Stage but the 3 fastest pilots in the stage scored 3, 2 and 1 points like they do nowadays. In both rallyes that stage was not the last one. In Finland Tommi Mäkinen and Didier Auriol scored points in that stage but did not finish the rally (both had mechanical problems I believe). But the points were added to their world rally championship total.

[dimviii]

there are 3 photos

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... permPage=1 (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=614138965305172&set=a.612918125427256.1073741845.592373834148352&type=1&permPage=1)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So what was the 'reason' for Ogier's poor time on SS4, what did he say, I didnt understand as heard him only in French ?

Tyres ? :rolleyes:

[satukata]

Go Loeb!

I´m suprised about his speed after long brake!

[dimviii]

So what was the 'reason' for Ogier's poor time on SS4, what did he say, I didnt understand as heard him only in French ?

Tyres ? :rolleyes:

Loeb Latvala and Ogier were on hard tyres.Worst start position for Loeb.More rain for Loeb.

[dimviii]

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[spiderem]

hey guys, somebody has a link to share to watch this afternoon's stages? Cheers.

[dimviii]

http://www.sport-team.org/site/chaine12.html ;)

[dimviii]

Ogier 5 sec slower from morning pass

[dimviii]

Neuville was 3,4 sec slower from Ogier at morning pass
now is 3,3 faster from Ogier at second pass.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville quick again as on the right tyres for the dry roads.. :)

[dimviii]

some new photos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/

[Mirek]

Neuville was 3,4 sec slower from Ogier at morning pass
now is 3,3 faster from Ogier at second pass.

Neuville had different tyre choice in the morning if I recall.

Anyway what is really huge is the difference between Nevuille and other Ford drivers. The question is if they are so slow or the car is slower than competitors and Neuville is so extraordinary driver. I tend to believe in first option.

[stefanvv]

Worst start position for Loeb.More rain for Loeb.
Actually the stage was drying for him, so he was lucky again :D :D :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Nice to see Neuville and Sordo setting times faster than the Sebs !!

[stefanvv]

The question is if they are so slow or the car is slower than competitors and Neuville is so extraordinary driver. I tend to believe in first option.
I think Ostberg & Novikov has lost quite motivation. But that's not excuse of course

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville was 3,4 sec slower from Ogier at morning pass
now is 3,3 faster from Ogier at second pass.

Anyway what is really huge is the difference between Nevuille and other Ford drivers. The question is if they are so slow or the car is slower than competitors and Neuville is so extraordinary driver. I tend to believe in first option.

Novikov much better run on SS5 ... :eek:

[dimviii]

Neuville was 3,4 sec slower from Ogier at morning pass
now is 3,3 faster from Ogier at second pass.

Neuville had different tyre choice in the morning if I recall.

Anyway what is really huge is the difference between Nevuille and other Ford drivers. The question is if they are so slow or the car is slower than competitors and Neuville is so extraordinary driver. I tend to believe in first option.

Mirek now we have many proof from many drivers about it.
proof 1 Mikko
proof 2 Neuville
best proof Master.


by the way Loeb is after Mads and road position mustn t be good

[SS5] Mads Ostberg (Ford) 6:09.3 "Its not so bad, but quite slippery in some of the junctions, a lot of the gravel pulled out. Mainly it was dry with just gravel on the road. Getting better and better, I feel more confident."

[satukata]

what kind of tyre choise top boys have?

[dimviii]

Worst start position for Loeb.More rain for Loeb.
Actually the stage was drying for him, so he was lucky again :D :D :D

but the other stage was raining only for him.
Stay calm 2,5 days more.

[spiderem]

http://www.sport-team.org/site/chaine12.html ;)
cheers

[stefanvv]

Stay calm 2,5 days more.
I'm calm as still water, don't worry for me ;)

[dimviii]

what kind of tyre choise top boys have?

Fords hard
Ogier hard
Latvala 2 soft 2 hard
Mikko 2 hard 2 soft
Loeb 2 hard 2 soft
Sordo 3 hard 1 soft
Mikkelsen soft all round lol

[satukata]

http://www.sport-team.org/site/chaine12.html ;)
cheers
GREAT live tv.

That is what we need from every rally.

[satukata]

http://www.sport-team.org/site/chaine12.html ;)
cheers
GREAT live tv.

That is what we need from every rally.

[dimviii]

http://www.sport-team.org/site/chaine12.html ;)
cheers

2 beers.Welcome.

[satukata]

what kind of tyre choise top boys have?

Fords hard
Ogier hard
Latvala 2 soft 2 hard
Mikko 2 hard 2 soft
Loeb 2 hard 2 soft
Sordo 3 hard 1 soft
Mikkelsen soft all round lol
Thanks,

Where you get tyre info?

[dimviii]

http://www.sport-team.org/site/chaine12.html ;)
cheers
GREAT live tv.

That is what we need from every rally.

2 beers. :D

[Mintexmemory]

. While Ogier has hit a problem this morning

what problem Mintexmemory?

Not mechanical, D - just crap tyre selection! - so the problem was of his own making.

However that is less wear on the softs for later in the rally.

[dimviii]

what kind of tyre choise top boys have?

Fords hard
Ogier hard
Latvala 2 soft 2 hard
Mikko 2 hard 2 soft
Loeb 2 hard 2 soft
Sordo 3 hard 1 soft
Mikkelsen soft all round lol
Thanks,

Where you get tyre info?

from here
http://en.best-of-rallylive.com/Eveneme ... 3#ong_news (http://en.best-of-rallylive.com/Evenements/Rallye-de-France-2013#ong_news)

now you own me 4 beers.

[dimviii]

. While Ogier has hit a problem this morning

what problem Mintexmemory?

Not mechanical, D - just crap tyre selection! - so the problem was of his own making.

However that is less wear on the softs for later in the rally.

so not exactly ''has hit a problem''

because you tried to minimise Loebs performance you own me 2 beers.

[dimviii]

Where you get tyre info?

you can here live comments from here
http://www.wrc.com/fanzone/wrc-live/

this is free of beers.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

More live streams in other languages here: http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?mat ... art=sports (http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=224574&part=sports) :colour:

[stefanvv]

GREAT live tv.
Yeah, this year is much better, there is real-time time difference between 5 drivers and graphics too

[dimviii]

Ogier 7,5 sec slower from morning pass...

[Bartek]

Neuville is better and better, future champion I think

[Allyc85]

http://www.sport-team.org/site/chaine12.html ;)
cheers
GREAT live tv.

That is what we need from every rally.

Dont understand 99% of what is being said, but it is brilliant to be able to see it live! :bounce:

[Mintexmemory]

so not exactly ''has hit a problem''

because you tried to minimise Loebs performance you own me 2 beers.

Show me the contract I signed up to for that!!!! ;)
Saying Ogier has hit a problem, even if it is psychological, does nothing to minimise Loeb's performance. You've become beer-o-philic ;)

[dimviii]

Neuville is better and better, future champion I think

really very good progress .next year at Citroen 99.9%

[jonkka]

I don't know but never in WRC history has anyone scored points after retiring. In Monte Carlo they have classified last leg retirees as finishers in final overall classification but I don't recall if any of those scored points.

Actually in 1999 there was a power stage in Tour de Corse and in Thousand Lakes rally (Finland). The official name was not Power Stage but the 3 fastest pilots in the stage scored 3, 2 and 1 points like they do nowadays. In both rallyes that stage was not the last one. In Finland Tommi Mäkinen and Didier Auriol scored points in that stage but did not finish the rally (both had mechanical problems I believe). But the points were added to their world rally championship total.

Excellent point, I stand corrected.

[dimviii]

so not exactly ''has hit a problem''

because you tried to minimise Loebs performance you own me 2 beers.

Show me the contract I signed up to for that!!!! ;)
Saying Ogier has hit a problem, even if it is psychological, does nothing to minimise Loeb's performance. You've become beer-o-philic ;)
ok now you are clear.I misunderstood.

i have beerphobia dont worry.

Where is Slowson to give him 2 beers?

[Mirek]

i have beerphobia dont worry.

After last night I have it almost too... well, almost... :D :vader:

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Neuville into the lead !! :D

[dimviii]

Neuville new leader!

[dimviii]

i have beerphobia dont worry.

After last night I have it almost too... well, almost... :D :vader:

i ll go to take my son from football.Dont drink my beers.In 20 minutes i will be back.

Nice rally!

[Mintexmemory]

BUMP!!
The sound of jaws dropping and everyone coming back to earth - What a rally and what a stage to come next!!

[stefanvv]

Yeah, the Rally is great, though it's not what we expected to be Seb vs Seb

[kober]

Everybody expected Loeb, Ogier to fight for the win, and destroy the competition while doing it, yet it's Neuville that leads after SS6. Interesting :) And what a great live TV, however I don't see Eurosport's production inferior.

[A FONDO]

4 drivers in 4 seconds, nice!

[tommeke_B]

@Dimviii, you still didn't say for how many beers you want to bet? :p

[dimviii]

4 drivers in 4 seconds, nice!

one of them is lucky.If you find him 2 beers from me.

[dimviii]

@Dimviii, you still didn't say for how many beers you want to bet? :p

young fox i will bet 20 beers. :disturb:

[dimviii]

BUMP!!
The sound of jaws dropping and everyone coming back to earth - What a rally and what a stage to come next!!

I think that you try to minimise again Loeb?

[tommeke_B]

Yeah come on, Loeb is beaten by someone who is doing only his second WRC season and "only" with a Ford (remember how much some people on this forum degraded the Fiesta WRC when Jari-Matti Latvala and Mikko Hirvonen were driving it?). :D

[tommeke_B]

@Dimviii, you still didn't say for how many beers you want to bet? :p

young fox i will bet 20 beers. :disturb:
20 is fine. Thanks in advance :D

[stefanvv]

Today the beer is pouring :D I already drank 3 and am on 4th :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

[stefanvv]

Today the beer is pouring :D I already drank 3 and am on 4th :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:
Dimitris, I drank your beers already, sorry :D

[dimviii]

Today the beer is pouring :D I already drank 3 and am on 4th :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:
Dimitris, I drank your beers already, sorry :D

no problem,i will earn 20 from Tom.

[dimviii]

[quote="tommeke_B":2cm56zw7]@Dimviii, you still didn't say for how many beers you want to bet? :p

young fox i will bet 20 beers. :disturb:
20 is fine. Thanks in advance :D[/quote:2cm56zw7]

ok 20 beers

[SS6] Sebastien Loeb (Citroen) 7:58.0 "The tyre choice is more for the last stage as we expect some rain in the last one… We hope the rain will come."

[tommeke_B]

@Dimviii. Just got an SMS from a friend who is on the stage (Pays d'Ormont) towards finish. Completely dry there. No rain = no beer for you. :D

[dimviii]

@Dimviii. Just got an SMS from a friend who is on the stage (Pays d'Ormont) towards finish. Completely dry there. No rain = no beer for you. :D

?n Loeb we trust. :vader:

[tommeke_B]

0-car just had an off, but was able to continue.

[Mirek]

According to info from ewrc forum Kostka retired when his front damper went through the bonnet after jump landing...

[stefanvv]

Neuville on the flyer... again

[dimviii]

Latvala slow..

[Fast Eddie WRC]

So annoying watching the stream listening to the commentator talking over the co-drivers... SHUT UP !! :angryfire

[dimviii]

Loeb fast 2nd split

[kober]

What tires for Ogier, Neuville, Loeb for SS7?

[dimviii]

Mikko?? :eek:

[jonkka]

Also Loeb not at all so fast as expected

[stefanvv]

Mikko?? :eek:
Expected rain, all softs I guess

[kober]

Mikko?? :eek:
On four softs?

[Mirek]

Also Loeb not at all so fast as expected

Wrong tyres. He expected rain.

[stefanvv]

Well, well, Neuville made some comfortable lead on this one

[kober]

Loeb down to fourth. A rare mistake with tire choice for Citroen.

[kober]

Well, well, Neuville made some comfortable lead on this one
That's twelve seconds over Loeb, with almost 190 km still to go. That's nothing.

[dimviii]

Loeb down to fourth. A rare mistake with tire choice for Citroen.

and Ford for once super right all day!! miracle!! :D

[stefanvv]

Loeb down to fourth. A rare mistake with tire choice for Citroen.

and Ford for once super right all day!! miracle!! :D
+1

[stefanvv]

Tomorrow heavy rain is expected, it's going to be thriller

[A FONDO]

Great day foir Thierry , but I also want to congratulate JML (who I usually criticise) - not only times are good but his driving - the lines, the acceleration - is very very clean - I never seen him like that! Let's hope that tomorrow the top drivers will copntinue being close, without accidents and without tyre gambles ruining the battle.

[NxOxT]

Great day, nice battles... a bit painful for some, but they endured 9 years... 2 more days then time will heal your wounds and tears...

I expect Ogier to come back but he needs to take risks to be in contention again, he has the car and the skills but he must stay on the road.... so we will see.

[polo10]

SSo the "God" was beaten today by those who Ogier joked with them during all season...But it does not matter, he is in front of Ogier so he is doing a perfect rally!!!!!!
I repeat, for me Loeb is the best driver ever, but i don t like that blind comments that Ogier only wins because Loeb is not in the championship , it would be a very nice and epic battle

[NxOxT]

2 more days... then your nightmare will end.

[Ucci]

Good thriller....secretly we all know that Neuville is fast on tarmac, but to lead after 1.day is still a surprise. Loeb still not warmed up, five months of absence is a long period, even for him. Good to see Sordo & JML within a range of the leader, I hope that JML won't do stupidity and Sordo loses his momentum....What to say for the new world champion ??? Maybe he lost motivation, he just cruises...who knows....
Mikko and Mads: an average scandinavian style. They hate tarmac...
What about ''crazy'' Polish driver named Robert?? Again showing his superiority in the WRC2 class, knocking on the door of the WRC....

[polo10]

2 more days... then your nightmare will end.
My nightmare???? No , as i wrote before Loeb is the best ever driver, and i am a big fan of him, it is just that i am not blind....

[stefanvv]

What is that countdown for? Loeb is driving this year just for fun... and quite possibly it'll not be his last Rally

[dimviii]

SSo the "God" was beaten today by those who Ogier joked with them during all season...But it does not matter, he is in front of Ogier so he is doing a perfect rally!!!!!!


lol

Loeb wasnt faster from 1st stage to last stage all these years.Plenty of drivers won stages,and whole days from him.

[dimviii]

more photos
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrall ... otostream/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/10086349485/in/photostream/)


like this photo
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVuWxH8IEAAy6pZ.jpg:large

[Jafry]

Photos from Friday HERE: http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1202

[tommeke_B]

https://scontent-b-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1383829_10151993943863083_401570836_n.jpg

[dimviii]

nice photo!

[miniwintz]

French satire :D

http://hfr-rehost.net/self/c7087d88cfee7555a07b9b71f800e7765076ca70.png
"This week's most anticipated national outings"
"Loeb & his last rally" .. "Ogier & his first title"
"Maybe we should schedule it later!" :D

[rallyesport]

New update -> http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rally ... sace-2013/ (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-france-alsace-2013/)

http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/2ejour-Aure.jpg
http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/2ejour-Aure2.jpg
http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/2ejour-Aure3.jpg

[miniwintz]

Anyway, live coverage was top notch, 10/10 !! Much much better than last year's. Much better than Eurosport, too, because 20 stages :D
Incredible action from Neuville, Sordo and even Novikov with a much better pace than in previous rallies during the last few stages. So far it is really incredible. Both Sebs are a bit disappointing but I won't complain, seeing new duels for the top spots :)

[BleAivano]

French satire :D

http://hfr-rehost.net/self/c7087d88cfee ... 76ca70.png (http://hfr-rehost.net/self/c7087d88cfee7555a07b9b71f800e7765076ca70.png)
"This week's most anticipated national outings"
"Loeb & his last rally" .. "Ogier & his first title"
"Maybe we should schedule it later!" :D


Haha hilarious :D

[rallyfun]

SSo the "God" was beaten today by those who Ogier joked with them during all season...But it does not matter, he is in front of Ogier so he is doing a perfect rally!!!!!!
I repeat, for me Loeb is the best driver ever, but i don t like that blind comments that Ogier only wins because Loeb is not in the championship , it would be a very nice and epic battle
Just so you know they had already many battles in the past, both won rallies but none of the drivers was nowhere near Loeb , so maybe stop whinging about it.

[Mirek]

Anyway, live coverage was top notch, 10/10 !! Much much better than last year's. Much better than Eurosport, too, because 20 stages :D

Rallye Monte Carlo was covered complete by Eurosport for 4-5 years in a row.

[miniwintz]

Oh :(
Nothing against Eurosport though, one of my favourite all time TV rally moment was Neuville's run at Cyprus 2011 :)

Here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3dj13W7dSk :cool:

[Mirek]

I actually believe we would hardly have any live stages in WRC if Eurosport didn't prove that idea to be successful in the IRC.

[dimviii]

French satire :D

http://hfr-rehost.net/self/c7087d88cfee7555a07b9b71f800e7765076ca70.png
"This week's most anticipated national outings"
"Loeb & his last rally" .. "Ogier & his first title"
"Maybe we should schedule it later!" :D

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

likelikelikelikelikelikelike


Both Sebs are a bit disappointing

Actually Loeb has a decent rally.He lost at the end from wrong tyre choice.Ogier wouldn t say dissapointing.Its normal here and there for plenty champions.Except one.

[dimviii]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVwTpNlCYAAWKl0.jpg:large

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Rallyper]

Oh :(
Nothing against Eurosport though, one of my favourite all time TV rally moment was Neuville's run at Cyprus 2011 :)

Here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3dj13W7dSk :cool:

Absolute stunning!!

Why isn´t it more Neuvilles in the WRC? He will win WDC in the future. Why not next year?

[Mirek]

Kostka
https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 0728_n.jpg (https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1374298_10202138909140111_1871260728_n.jpg)

[stefanvv]

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BVwTpNlCYAAWKl0.jpg:large

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Is this Loeb's Paris-Dakar car? :D :D :D

[polo10]

SSo the "God" was beaten today by those who Ogier joked with them during all season...But it does not matter, he is in front of Ogier so he is doing a perfect rally!!!!!!
I repeat, for me Loeb is the best driver ever, but i don t like that blind comments that Ogier only wins because Loeb is not in the championship , it would be a very nice and epic battle
Just so you know they had already many battles in the past, both won rallies but none of the drivers was nowhere near Loeb , so maybe stop whinging about it.
I think Ogier did it and was the only one to prove that he has the speed for Loeb,but i don t think Ogier in the future will be even close to win what Loeb has won, but i also think that this year if both where on the championship it will be a very big battle, so i dont agree when people say that ogier is Champion because Loeb allowed to...Just that, i think Loeb is the best driver of all times, bbut like every champion in every sport comes a time that one guy becomes better than the Champion, it is normal,and i think Ogier is the one...

[stefanvv]

Just that, i think Loeb is the best driver of all times, bbut like every champion in every sport comes a time that one guy becomes better than the Champion, it is normal,and i think Ogier is the one...
Finally!

[stefanvv]

Loeb fans must admit that his time has passed. He can try to win title again, just because he is that good, but I don't think it is phisically possible for him, as he is in age, probably little tyred and is much more easy for someone younger and more ambitious like Ogier to climb to it.

[bluuford]

People here are expecting Neuville to move to Citroen from 2014.. I think his best choice would be Ford. Looks like it is a winning combination. Do not fix it if it is not broken. And Citroen? Everything seems to be broken there. Two bad forecasts in one day.. not the best drivers.. etc.

[wrc1600]

Loeb fans must admit that his time has passed. He can try to win title again, just because he is that good, but I don't think it is phisically possible for him, as he is in age, probably little tyred and is much more easy for someone younger and more ambitious like Ogier to climb to it.
I don't know if you knew that but Loeb decided to retire and will not try to win anything in rallies anymore. I wouldn't say his time has passed he just finished with ralling and that's all. Also I think we can say he was so kind and drove 2 years longer than he planned.

[rallyfun]

People here are expecting Neuville to move to Citroen from 2014.. I think his best choice would be Ford. Looks like it is a winning combination. Do not fix it if it is not broken. And Citroen? Everything seems to be broken there. Two bad forecasts in one day.. not the best drivers.. etc.
Leaving Ford by Neuville could damage WRC, they relay on Quatar money and without it they might be off.

[dimviii]

like every champion in every sport comes a time that one guy becomes better than the Champion, it is normal,and i think Ogier is the one...

when Ogier became better? :confused:

[dimviii]

People here are expecting Neuville to move to Citroen from 2014.. I think his best choice would be Ford. Looks like it is a winning combination. Do not fix it if it is not broken. And Citroen? Everything seems to be broken there. Two bad forecasts in one day.. not the best drivers.. etc.

any forcast bluuford?

[dimviii]

Loeb fans must admit that his time has passed. He can try to win title again, just because he is that good, but I don't think it is phisically possible for him, as he is in age, probably little tyred and is much more easy for someone younger and more ambitious like Ogier to climb to it.

after 3 rallies and after today if you have understant something like this,you are not going right with your mind.Maybe a lot of beers?

[polo10]

like every champion in every sport comes a time that one guy becomes better than the Champion, it is normal,and i think Ogier is the one...

when Ogier became better? :confused:
I said genrally for every sports, this year we could not see because Loeb run away, this would be the year...I think in the last year that Ogier was in citroen he , in some rallys shows more pure speed than Loeb, i know that a driver it is not only about speed...I don t say that he is better NOW than Loeb, but in my point of view i also can not say that NOW Loeb is better than Ogier, that is my opinion...

[dimviii]

I said genrally for every sports,.
No you said about Ogier.Not generally.read your post again.


this year we could not see because Loeb run away,.
wrong.Ogier run away.Loeb was at wrc dominating for 8th time in a row.


this would be the year...I think in the last year that Ogier was in citroen he , in some rallys shows more pure speed than Loeb, i know that a driver it is not only about speed..

this would the year,because Ogier had speed,but speed is not the only one,but Ogier would won this year.Are you ok?
Solberg at his era had speed against Loeb.Gronholm had speed and won plenty rallies against Loeb but no champions.


.I don t say that he is better NOW than Loeb, but in my point of view i also can not say that NOW Loeb is better than Ogier, that is my opinion...
You have watched wrc from Monte and didn t see who is better.


2 days more,be patience. ;)

[rallyfun]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/p480x480/1374993_10151994242613083_311294879_n.jpg


Is there anyone out there who can beat that within next 8 years? If so we will admit he is better...

[bluuford]

any forcast bluuford?
It is raining heavly on all stages right now. There might be some bright moments during the morning loop for the first starters but I belive everybody will be on softs. After lunch the weather turns to normal IRC mode (medium to heavy rain), so, those 5, 6, 9 sek differences will be nothing tomorrow. Moreover, wetaher will be pretty chilly, so, it will not dry out quickly.

[danon]

The one of the two lonely guys on the right side certainly looks like NxOxT... :laugh:

NxOxT, you're running late with the pain update - time left...?
Hint - Keep up the suspense by counting not days but secs... tik, tak, tik, tak...



French satire :D

http://hfr-rehost.net/self/c7087d88cfee7555a07b9b71f800e7765076ca70.png
"This week's most anticipated national outings"
"Loeb & his last rally" .. "Ogier & his first title"
"Maybe we should schedule it later!" :D

[dimviii]

any forcast bluuford?
It is raining heavly on all stages right now. There might be some bright moments during the morning loop for the first starters but I belive everybody will be on softs. After lunch the weather turns to normal IRC mode (medium to heavy rain), so, those 5, 6, 9 sek differences will be nothing tomorrow. Moreover, wetaher will be pretty chilly, so, it will not dry out quickly.

thanks mate!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 81weuHzEjw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=681weuHzEjw)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... N5-NkDINbs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EN5-NkDINbs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Lbycow36nQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3Lbycow36nQ)

[dimviii]

e x c e l l e n t slow motion video!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... P3yyEe_5O0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kP3yyEe_5O0)

Neuville :skull:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... 5szqkIh8vk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=h5szqkIh8vk)

[noel157]

B of RL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP3yyEe_5O0

Damn pace notes, throw them out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y70dv-XNfVQ

No wonder he's retiring (has to park his scooter himself too...)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR_nnOJxl14 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR_nnOJxl14)

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... Dx78DQeVtM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KDx78DQeVtM)

[dimviii]

what do you come in mind when you see this video?
:skull: :skull: :skull:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15k9i ... ttack_auto (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15k9i2_thierry-neuville-rallye-de-france-2013-es7-big-attack_auto)

[A FONDO]

Damn pace notes, throw them out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y70dv-XNfVQ
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[polo10]

I said genrally for every sports,.
No you said about Ogier.Not generally.read your post again.


this year we could not see because Loeb run away,.
wrong.Ogier run away.Loeb was at wrc dominating for 8th time in a row.


this would be the year...I think in the last year that Ogier was in citroen he , in some rallys shows more pure speed than Loeb, i know that a driver it is not only about speed..

this would the year,because Ogier had speed,but speed is not the only one,but Ogier would won this year.Are you ok?
Solberg at his era had speed against Loeb.Gronholm had speed and won plenty rallies against Loeb but no champions.


.I don t say that he is better NOW than Loeb, but in my point of view i also can not say that NOW Loeb is better than Ogier, that is my opinion...

Probably my english is not too good or you are not capable to understand...
This would be the year to see because both would be in the best 2 teams and with no orders, it would be a pure fight...- did not said that Ogier win if Loeb stays, i said it would be a eppic battle...are you out of your mind or you are so blind for Loeb that could not see my words in the right way...I already said that for me Loeb is the best player ever and i don t think that Ogier will ever win what Loeb wan. I said this in a erlier post...you are sick for Loeb, my god

[noel157]

what do you come in mind when you see this video?
:skull: :skull: :skull:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15k9i ... ttack_auto (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15k9i2_thierry-neuville-rallye-de-france-2013-es7-big-attack_auto)

Meeke? Ok, McRae. :)


Anybody know the song on Citroen Racing's video?:

http://www.dailymotion.com/citroenracing#video=x15k6lr

[tommeke_B]

Anybody know the song on Citroen Racing's video?:

http://www.dailymotion.com/citroenracing#video=x15k6lr
Hard to find it. I think all music they use are coming from www.audionetwork.com (http://www.audionetwork.com), a big platform of mostly non-commercial music that can be purchased to use in videos.

[tommeke_B]

what do you come in mind when you see this video?
:skull: :skull: :skull:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15k9i ... ttack_auto (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15k9i2_thierry-neuville-rallye-de-france-2013-es7-big-attack_auto)
He's fighting for the (20) gold(en beers) :D

[tommeke_B]

http://www.5minutesatuer.com/events/acc ... wingo.html (http://www.5minutesatuer.com/events/accident-rallye-france-2013-twingo.html)

"Thanks for the help, here, have some pacenotes." :D

[dimviii]

Probably my english is not too good or you are not capable to understand...
This would be the year to see because both would be in the best 2 teams and with no orders, it would be a pure fight...- did not said that Ogier win if Loeb stays, i said it would be a eppic battle...are you out of your mind or you are so blind for Loeb that could not see my words in the right way...I already said that for me Loeb is the best player ever and i don t think that Ogier will ever win what Loeb wan. I said this in a erlier post...you are sick for Loeb, my god

your English are worst from mine.I am NOT sick for Loeb,i am sick of listening excuses, even when, with same tyres and worst conditions, Loeb is 22,3 sec in 58kms faster from Ogier, fair and square. ;)

[dimviii]

what do you come in mind when you see this video?
:skull: :skull: :skull:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15k9i ... ttack_auto (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15k9i2_thierry-neuville-rallye-de-france-2013-es7-big-attack_auto)

Meeke? Ok, McRae. :)

No,Neuville last stage at last rally.Neuville seems to drive on the edge.

[dimviii]

what do you come in mind when you see this video?
:skull: :skull: :skull:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15k9i ... ttack_auto (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x15k9i2_thierry-neuville-rallye-de-france-2013-es7-big-attack_auto)
He's fighting for the (20) gold(en beers) :D

ahahahahahahahhaha!!

[Rallyper]

Hello Dimitris! Up so late?

I agree Neuville will go to Citroen. The Loeb - Ogier thing we all know Loeb is the master, however the history did play in his hands. I hope Neuville and hopefully a couple of new youngsters will make the rallylife of Ogier very hard coming years...

[BleAivano]

wrong thread.

[Rallyper]

wrong thread.

Going out watching SRC today?

[polo10]

Probably my english is not too good or you are not capable to understand...
This would be the year to see because both would be in the best 2 teams and with no orders, it would be a pure fight...- did not said that Ogier win if Loeb stays, i said it would be a eppic battle...are you out of your mind or you are so blind for Loeb that could not see my words in the right way...I already said that for me Loeb is the best player ever and i don t think that Ogier will ever win what Loeb wan. I said this in a erlier post...you are sick for Loeb, my god

your English are worst from mine.I am NOT sick for Loeb,i am sick of listening excuses, even when, with same tyres and worst conditions, Loeb is 22,3 sec in 58kms faster from Ogier, fair and square. ;)
See ,that is a comment that i don give any credit, we are different person and wirth a different way to see rallys,i am a fan of the sports and what i like to see is good battle between good drivers. I tell , i continue with my opinion and i wish Loeb will win this rally a driver like him, a monster in this sports, deserves to win his last event and of course he is capable of, and i think he will do it....

[stefanvv]

I don't know if you knew that but Loeb decided to retire and will not try to win anything in rallies anymore.
Noooo, really?
Seriously, I think only Loeb fans here are making competition. What I can say for Ogier in this Rally, he doesn't seem to care for Seb vs Seb fight.

[stefanvv]

Loeb fans must admit that his time has passed. He can try to win title again, just because he is that good, but I don't think it is phisically possible for him, as he is in age, probably little tyred and is much more easy for someone younger and more ambitious like Ogier to climb to it.

after 3 rallies and after today if you have understant something like this,you are not going right with your mind.Maybe a lot of beers?
This discussion is pointless. As nobody's fan I tend to see things more clearly even with lot of beers.

[kober]

Full version of WRC TV Friday Highlights are now available on wrc.com/video/highlights/ (http://www.wrc.com/video/highlights/)

[irish_tiger]

Has there there been a French Driver thrown out of WRC 3 for Illegal Recee and had an accident with another car while doing this ? I hear there was a press release last night from the organisers and this driver didn't start yesterday morning over this ???? ....Consani

[kober]

Yes, Stephane Consani has been thrown out (http://www.wrc.com/news/wrc-news-in-brief/?fid=19188) of WRC 3:

WRC 3 contender Stephane Consani was today thrown out of the championship after admitting illegally recceing a Rallye de France-Alsace stage last month. Consani was also involved in an accident on the 34.34km Vosges-Pays d’Ormont stage, the longest of the rally, on 26 September.

Consani told rally stewards that when he realised he was being followed by representatives of the rally organisers, he panicked and drove off. The Frenchman, who was accompanied in the car by his girlfriend, withdrew from the rally before the restart this morning ‘for personal reasons’.

Consani, who was seventh in the WRC 3 championship standings, had his points withdrawn and was suspended from the final two rounds of the season. He will be reported to French motorsport’s governing body with a request to consider suspending his competition licence

On a different note, there's an interesting quote by Yves Matton (http://www.wrc.com/news/team-bosses-sum-up-france-day-1/?fid=19189) about their tire choice for Friday's second loop:

This afternoon we had very good weather information but we didn’t use it. I think we were little bit too safe.

[miniwintz]

I am wondering, why would anyone want T.N. to go to Citroën? He is comfortable, fast, regular on the Fiesta and has the benediction & funding from his friend Nasser. Why would anyone change a winning formula?

[Negaiss]

Good morning. Big rain on the way as predicted!! http://www.meteo60.fr/radars_index.php

[omer yetis]

good morning!

is there any live stream today?
and same link as yesterday?

http://www.sport-team.org/site/chaine12.html

[A FONDO]

yesterday's live feed recorded: http://www.youtube.com/user/garikoitz3492?feature=watch

[Mirek]

Seriously, I think only Loeb fans here are making competition. What I can say for Ogier in this Rally, he doesn't seem to care for Seb vs Seb fight.

Impossible. Ogier always cares about anybody close to him and especially about Loeb. He must be completely mad about public in France not bothering about his WRC title and instead cheering for Loeb. I guess his bad performance may have more to do with this. I can't imagine that this guy would suddenly change in a second and from the predator aiming to destroy all others to a tourist not bothering about the rest.

[Tom206wrc]

SS8 should have started :bounce:

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

10min delay SS8

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

SS8 is live...

[Bartek]

Difficult conditions

[jonkka]

I am wondering, why would anyone want T.N. to go to Citroën? He is comfortable, fast, regular on the Fiesta and has the benediction & funding from his friend Nasser. Why would anyone change a winning formula?

This is wrong thread for this, IMHO. But...

Yes, for today and with homologation freeze for 2014, Ford is sensible place for Thierry to be in. But what about 2015 and onwards? What will future hold for Ford? What kind of stir Hyundai will bring? Decisions, decisions...

[Mirek]

Yes, for today and with homologation freeze for 2014, Ford is sensible place for Thierry to be in. But what about 2015 and onwards? What will future hold for Ford? What kind of stir Hyundai will bring? Decisions, decisions...

What's going to happen with the all new already prepared Fiesta WRC evolution?

[Bartek]

WRC cars have rain sensor on windscreen?

[jonkka]

What's going to happen with the all new already prepared Fiesta WRC evolution?

Go ask Malcolm. Also ask whether Ford supports them 'cause without that they can't homologate anything.

[arko5]

What's happened with Kubica. He did not start yet?

[noel157]

Ogier starting to put the foot down.

[jonkka]

Would anyone know co-drivers for crews:
#130 Robert Consani
#157 Patrick Cornus