Wrc Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2013

[wwbroe]

Really? Are you sure there isn't a service between the 1st and 2nd runs.

There is no service between the stages, five stages to go in a row, only refueling provided.

[Mintexmemory]

Only refueling remote, no service

Mmm interesting - could be very close then after SS4 - Anyone know what state Ogier's softs were in after SS1?

[Rally Talent]

Lappi was complaining about poor pace notes. When he gets them right, nothing will stop him...

[wwbroe]

Evans is on good pace sofar, matching almost split times of Lappi and Wiegand.

[Mintexmemory]

There is no service between the stages, five stages to go in a row, only refueling provided.

What no road tyres for the run to Lisboa?

[spyros]

Very bad tyre choice by Ogier . . .

corect,he'll have problems at the next stage.........

[eestlane]

Lappi is first time in the mountains. He has no experience what so ever

[Mirek]

Bizzare tyre choice by Ogier. They still have 4 tyres to run on those tyres, and it will only get more abrasive and hotter.

Isn't number of hard tyres limited? Maybe he's saving them for next days...

[wwbroe]

What no road tyres for the run to Lisboa?

No, i guess they have to do it with the gravel tyres.

[wwbroe]

Isn't number of hard tyres limited? Maybe he's saving them for next days...

But next days there are service between runs of stages, so i think it is bizar choice.

[Mirek]

But next days there are service between runs of stages, so i think it is bizar choice.

That depends if You have something to change left for the service breaks. I really don't know many hard ones they have.

[wwbroe]

It is true that kms of stages between services looks about the same today, tomorrow and even on sunday, so maybe it is all up to number of tyres that you can use?

[andyone]

i wont under estimate Ogier with those wrong choices. but i really wish Osberg wins.. he is the second fastes driver of 2013

[wwbroe]

No split for Cosziuscko on stage 2?

[MTA]

PG a lot faster then Lappi, hope he does not become obstructed by the car before him.

[Mirek]

PG is going to enjoy overtaking a lot today...

[wwbroe]

Great splits for PG indeed, Magalhaes on the other hand is setting slow splits, i expected him to be a lot faster.

[Bartek]

Kościuszko have soft and said that now they are bad choice

[wwbroe]

Kościuszko have soft and said that now they are bad choice

Let's see if Ogier think the same after this stage :D

[MTA]

can only hope that he got at least an extra minute when he is 2 min 30 sec faster than the car before just on this stage.
but just 3.3 seconds ahead Lappi

[Georgi]

PG must be in some of the big teams! He is such a great talent!

[makinen_fan]

How many hard tyres are they allowed in total? I suspect they will need at least 8 hards for the two 53km stages. Softs would not work on that stage imo, expect if weather changes.

[Fly]

Riedemann red hot.

Edit: Fisher is the man on ss1.

[Mirek]

PG a lot faster then Lappi, hope he does not become obstructed by the car before him.

PG did 70 WRC events and is double JWRC champion and a proven world class contender (at least by raw speed). Lappi is doing 3rd WRC event and 2nd out of his home country. Something would be very wrong with PG if he was not faster.

[MTA]

PG did 70 WRC events and is double JWRC champion and a proven world class contender (at least by raw speed). Lappi is doing 3rd WRC event and 2nd out of his home country. Something would be very wrong with PG if he was not faster.

Absolutely agree!

[wwbroe]

Fantastic time by Ostberg, but Ogier still faster at first split.

[rage82]

Mads is flying and open's a gap between him and MIkko. Ogier is 5 sec. behind on tge 2-nd split!
It's going to be interesting
And 7.5 sec. on the finish, and Mads is the new leader

[wwbroe]

Fantastic time by Ostberg, but Ogier still faster at first split. ;)

[stefanvv]

Wow, great pace by Ostberg

[Bartek]

Mads is faster than Ogier in second split, Go Mads Go!!!

[wwbroe]

Ogier is five seconds slower as Mads on second split!!!

[Rally Talent]

Absolutely agree!

It's really a pity that not all top talents will get the possibility to show their full potential (I'm talking about a seat in one of the WRC factory teams). We all know that there are some faster drivers outside WRC teams and then there are those WRC drivers that should have retired ages ago but they've been given 2nd, 3rd or 4th chances... time after time. Life isn't fair.

[WRC3]

PG dont counting for WRC2?

[Langdale Forest]

PG Andersson would be leading WRC-2 if he was registered for that championship.

[rage82]

From Mads twitter: "Finished SS2 fastest time so far. - Going good, pushing hard. Maybe too hard, had moments. Confident!"
Everything is OK when you are confident what are you doing!

[Bartek]

Sordo woke up :)

[WRC3]

I suppose there is 1-minute gap for WRC2 drivers. So Lappi lost some seconds in dust of the car before (stage 1), he should win that race if he want stay in Championship. Now, 2nd stage he push more I think.

[Langdale Forest]

Shame PG Andersson cannot score WRC-2 points.

[Bartek]

Kubica have problems, uhhh

[Rally Talent]

This the Ostberg I've been expecting to see.

[wwbroe]

Kubica have problems, uhhh

He surely lost time towards the last part of the stage, but i don't know what happened?

[wwbroe]

Alistair Fisher is proving himself the fastest man in Citroen Trophee sofar, Bouffier is loosing quite amount of time. Very good time also by Riedeman, codriven by Lara Vaneste.

[A FONDO]

He surely lost time towards the last part of the stage, but i don't know what happened?

overheating engine

[arko5]

He surely lost time towards the last part of the stage, but i don't know what happened?

He said that have problems with overheating

[wwbroe]

overheating engine

Thanks for the info

[Mintexmemory]

Alistair Fisher is proving himself the fastest man in Citroen Trophee sofar, Bouffier is loosing quite amount of time. Very good time also by Riedeman, codriven by Lara Vaneste.
Sigh...... Lara.....!!! ;)

[Bartek]

Thanks for the info

Fron left tyre off also.

[Hartusvuori]

PG did 70 WRC events and is double JWRC champion and a proven world class contender (at least by raw speed). Lappi is doing 3rd WRC event and 2nd out of his home country. Something would be very wrong with PG if he was not faster.

Absolutely agree with you on experienced-inexperienced comparison, but it's not a shame to be slower than Lappi, even for PGA...

And as I tend to stuck in details, this is at least eight event abroad for Lappi (first one was with Mitsu don't remember where, then WRC Germany, ERC Poland, Swedish championship round, Spanish championship round, WRC Monte Carlo, Norwegian championship round, now this) - but yes, third WRC event with 4WD car and second such WRC event outside Finland.

[eestlane]

Pärn retired on the first stage. Does he have superrally in jwrc?

[Mirek]

I suppose there is 1-minute gap for WRC2 drivers. So Lappi lost some seconds in dust of the car before (stage 1), he should win that race if he want stay in Championship. Now, 2nd stage he push more I think.

No, 2 minutes for everyone till PG. Moura first to start in one minute gap.

[Bartek]

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/757095153.jpg

[WRC3]

Thanks Mirek, I should read some startlist more carefully ... I was sure after WRC its one minute ...

[MTA]

No, 2 minutes for everyone till PG. Moura first to start in one minute gap.

Are you sure? I read about PG have not had extra minute and was a bit annoyed about it?

[Mintexmemory]

Absolutely agree with you on experienced-inexperienced comparison, but it's not a shame to be slower than Lappi, even for PGA...

And as I tend to stuck in details, this is at least eight event abroad for Lappi (first one was with Mitsu don't remember where, then WRC Germany, ERC Poland, Swedish championship round, Spanish championship round, WRC Monte Carlo, Norwegian championship round, now this) - but yes, third WRC event with 4WD car and second such WRC event outside Finland.

We will see how PG, Lappi, Wiegand and EE compare after SS4 when the tyre strategies have wound down. Could be a good 4-way contest for WRC2 cars (even though PG isn't registered). Shame about RK - hope he keeps going, very pleased for Barrable

Tyre choice may affect the DS3 cup - can't believe Fisher is quicker than Cronin and Chardonnet

[Mintexmemory]

Pärn retired on the first stage. Does he have superrally in jwrc?

They did last year

[Bartek]

Kubica trying to fix his radiatior.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHpMe8ECQAEYCYz.jpg:large

[MTA]

Are you sure? I read about PG have not had extra minute and was a bit annoyed about it?

Excuse me, he was unsure if 2 minutes was enough and wanted to start earlier.
P-G rädd hindras av damm - nwt.se - Ditt Värmland, just nu! (http://nwt.se/sport/motorsport/article1290542.ece)

[RS]

I think that the almost complete lack of commentary here on Kubica shows it is more interesting for everyone when he is fighting for overall victories in ERC.

Robert is doing great though, his times are excellent for a first gravel event even if I think he has a slight car advantage.

[WRC3]

Excuse me, he was unsure if 2 minutes was enough and wanted to start earlier.
P-G rädd hindras av damm - nwt.se - Ditt Värmland, just nu! (http://nwt.se/sport/motorsport/article1290542.ece)

But now it could be problem with 2 minutes gap to Vallario ...

[mousti]

He has already now problems with that Vallario dude, those are sloooooow as hell!

[GallardoGT]

Sigh...... Lara.....!!! ;)
It's a shame that Lara Venneste couldn't continue with Kevin Abbring after winning the Monte Carlo Rally(otherwise she was now maybe codriver in the third Polo R WRC). Still don't now what was the reason back then.

[Bartek]

Kubica's DS is moving again, radiator is ok :)

[WRC3]

He has already now problems with that Vallario dude, those are sloooooow as hell!

Yes, I just saw that PG gives him at first stage 3 minutes! Why they put him so late? If he is not registered, its also possible to let him start before Wiegand.

[Mintexmemory]

It's a shame that Lara Venneste couldn't continue with Kevin Abbring after winning the Monte Carlo Rally(otherwise she was now maybe codriver in the third Polo R WRC). Still don't now what was the reason back then.

I suspect all sorts of VW interference. I wouldn't want the temptation of having Lara co-drive me on tarmac, there might be too many lay-bys!

[MR666]

Any one able to get on wrc.com?

[Mintexmemory]

Any one able to get on wrc.com?

Just crashed agaIN -SERVER ERROR

[GallardoGT]

I suspect all sorts of VW interference. I wouldn't want the temptation of having Lara co-drive me on tarmac, there might be too many lay-bys!

Yeah, but you don't have the concentration of a rallydriver ;)

[Mintexmemory]

server back up!!!

[Mintexmemory]

Yeah, but you don't have the concentration of a rallydriver ;)

I think you'd need the concentration of a chess Grand Master (and the ability to think chess moves ;) if you follow my meaning)
Fortunately it wouldn't be a problem as young Lara wouldn't look twice at an old goat like me!!

[Mintexmemory]

SS3 underway!!

[GallardoGT]

I think you'd need the concentration of a chess Grand Master (and the ability to think chess moves ;) if you follow my meaning)
Fortunately it wouldn't be a problem as young Lara wouldn't look twice at an old goat like me!!
Rallydriving is indeed like chess moves and even multitasking, I find it still difficult to listen to the pacenotes while driving on a new track on Richard Burns Rally simulation.

[rage82]

See Novikov on 3-rd split

[rage82]

Mads showing stoped on gps tracking system.
" Mads Ostberg rattled the Armco barrier in SS3, at 9km, some damage"
He has rolled the car!

[Bartek]

Mads showing stoped on gps tracking system.

oh noooo, very bad news

[smsgrafica]

Ostberg rolled

[Mintexmemory]

JML is flying!

[Bartek]

So now Dani have to push :)

[WRC3]

Seems Ogier will be lucky, as it was Loeb in past years when others made mistakes.

[stefanvv]

Bad news for Ostberg, I hoped he can fight for the victory

[stefanvv]

Good pace by JML, it's not surprise he is ahead of Hirvonen now

[Mintexmemory]

Lappi's 3rd split - insane!

Wouldn't be surprised if he has a similar tyre choice to Novikov which works great for that section and then degrades

[A FONDO]

What's going on with Ogier's car ?

[rage82]

Lappi's 3rd split - insane!
See Kubica :) )))

[Mintexmemory]

See Kubica :) )))

Wooo looks like RK has found his mojo!
Where's Elfyn gone?

[Bartek]

Kościuszko is beaten by RRC :)

[arko5]

Kubica quicker then Kościuszko :)

[rage82]

Wooo looks like RK has found his mojo!
Where's Elfyn gone?
Nothing for him from the radio
Edit: 6.6 sec. slower than Kubica

[Mintexmemory]

Kościuszko is beaten by RRC :)

As was predicted on the Canarias thread by (modesty forbids) - tyre choices now balancing out

[Mintexmemory]

Nothing for him from the radio
Edit: 6.6 sec. slower than Kubica
Thanks, see it on the stage times now. EE and RK to overtake Wiegand on the next stage? PG to be slower than them - we shall see. Very interesting all round so far, but if anyone was going to make the 4 softs selection work it was Ogier

[Fast Eddie WRC]

It was too good to last... Mads was pushing too hard.

[Bartek]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHpfUjuCUAEVdXc.jpg:large

"This is what happens when you go for 5 in 4 blind corner"

Car from this photo doesn't look bad

[rage82]

Mads Ostberg's car after the accident:https://twitter.com/MadsOstberg/status/322675130092376064/photo/1

[Langdale Forest]

Car doesn't look too badly damaged.

[Mirek]

What happened to Al Ketbi? Also crash?

[A FONDO]

Ostberg's car looks like just exited the factory. Interesting to know what is the problem obligating to retire.

[Langdale Forest]

Otsberg has been put onto nthe retirement list, so he won't be superalllying.

[DonJippo]

Ostberg's car looks like just exited the factory. Interesting to know what is the problem obligating to retire.

Front wheels are pointing to different directions I think that's the reason or one of the reasons.

[HarriK]

I have photos of kubica exit. Also kondrakin and one R2 made same exit. Very close to retire!

[darkstar]

show us :)

[A FONDO]

Front wheels are pointing to different directions I think that's the reason or one of the reasons.

Sharp eye you got :) Although one might have turned the wheel between the two pics (just theoretically)

[dimviii]

some nice shots from Timo Anis
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2013/tan_dsc_4523.jpghttp://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2013/tan_dsc_4383.jpg

eWRC.cz - Fotogalerie Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2013 Timo Anis (http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=6534&fotograf=79)

[rage82]

What happened to Al Ketbi? Also crash?
Yes, they said that also rolled the car, the crew is OK
From Irally twitter: "SS4 Andreas Mikkelsen reported going slowly in the stage, with hazard lights on...."

[Mintexmemory]

Mikkelsen slow - puncture?

[dimviii]

Mikkelsen on problems,or jump start?

[Micke_VOC]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/11995_625115414169878_301003769_n.jpg

Tidemand leading JWRC after two stages....

[wwbroe]

WRC.com is down again, at least not working anymore over here :mad:

[PLuto]

Otsberg has been put onto nthe retirement list, so he won't be superalllying.

This isnt important, now he is retired but till the end of the leg it should change.

[Hartusvuori]

SMS from friend on SS4: "Mikkelsen in probs", so no jump start. Don't know more.

[PLuto]

WRC.com is down again, at least not working anymore over here :mad:

You can follow it here: Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2013 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/vodafone-rally-de-portugal-2013)

P.S. For sure without splits.

[Langdale Forest]

Not working here. :mad:

[wwbroe]

You can follow it here: Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2013 - Results - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/vodafone-rally-de-portugal-2013)

P.S. For sure without splits.

I know my friend, but i am just on WRC.com for the splits, for results i am for sure on Rallybase. ;)

[dimviii]

wrc splits working for me.

[Hartusvuori]

Andreas Mikkelsen ‏@AMikkelsenRally (https://twitter.com/AMikkelsenRally) 1 min (https://twitter.com/AMikkelsenRally/status/322684531314413568) SS4 Ourique 2 (18.32km): "I've no power steering. Lost it after the start of the stage. Lost a lot of time" #rallydeportugal (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23rallydeportugal&src=hash) #WRC (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WRC&src=hash)

[PLuto]

SMS from friend on SS4: "Mikkelsen in probs", so no jump start. Don't know more.

Powersteering

[Hartusvuori]

Andreas Mikkelsen ‏@AMikkelsenRally (https://twitter.com/AMikkelsenRally) 1 min (https://twitter.com/AMikkelsenRally/status/322684531314413568) SS4 Ourique 2 (18.32km): "I've no power steering. Lost it after the start of the stage. Lost a lot of time" #rallydeportugal (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23rallydeportugal&src=hash) #WRC (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23WRC&src=hash)

First techical problem for Polo WRC? (apart from that small half a stage no intercom for JML in Sweden)

[Rally Talent]

Neuville is doing a great job out there.

[Tom206wrc]

Sordo fastest so far(penultimate split) :D

[HarriK]

Attiyah had exit also and mikkelssen let quassimi pass him here

[GF]

First techical problem for Polo WRC? (apart from that small half a stage no intercom for JML in Sweden)

The first was in Monte with the handbrake sensors to Ogier's car.

[Langdale Forest]

Sordo deserves this win after all the team orders Citroen have given him in the past.

[Mintexmemory]

Mikko 4.2 secs slower than Dani on gravel over 18km! Don't think that Matton will be pleased with him after this morning.

[EightGear]

Real shame about Ostberg... Hope Sordo can keep this up and Ogier won't blow everone away when he's on the right tyres.

[Mintexmemory]

Sordo deserves this win after all the team orders Citroen have given him in the past.

However, Ogier is still 2 secs ahead and has 4 hard tyres more than the rest still in the transporter. Successful strategy I'd say.

[darkstar]

at the moment it´s an exiting rallye, top 5 are still quite close together, top 3 only within 11 seconds. i hope it will continue like this. pitty for östberg, he was really fast...

[Tom206wrc]

Kubica really fast too in SS4 :)

[wwbroe]

Puncture for Robert Kubica?

[Rally Talent]

Puncture for Kubica - presumably in the end of the stage, he was lucky :)

[rage82]

Kubica only 0.1 slower Than Lappi with a puncture. Before that he was faster than the Fin. Great job I think and now he's 2-nd overall in wrc -2

[Rally Talent]

It must be frustrating for Kubica when Lappi always passes him after the last split :p :, this time by 0.1s...

[Mintexmemory]

Well Lappi, Kubica, Evans - Very interesting trio, it will be great to see how they develop. PG is showing what is possible (very much like Ogier last year) but he has free tyre choice I believe because he is not in the championship.

Both Lappi and Kubica have history for throwing it off the road when well-placed, Elfyn never has.

PS - Is it just me or does anyone else thnk they should be doing 2 more loops of these stages rather than driving to Lisbon for a 3km stage! :rolleyes:

[Rally Talent]

Well Lappi, Kubica, Evans - Very interesting trio, it will be great to see how they develop. PG is showing what is possible (very much like Ogier last year) but he has free tyre choice I believe because he is not in the championship.

Both Lappi and Kubica have history for throwing it off the road when well-placed, Elfyn never has.

Well, it's of course easier to keep the vehicle on the road if you drive a bit slower... (this doesn't apply to Ogier in most cases, however...)

[stefanvv]

Well Lappi, Kubica, Evans - Very interesting trio, it will be great to see how they develop. PG is showing what is possible (very much like Ogier last year) but he has free tyre choice I believe because he is not in the championship.

Both Lappi and Kubica have history for throwing it off the road when well-placed, Elfyn never has.

PS - Is it just me or does anyone else thnk they should be doing 2 more loops of these stages rather than driving to Lisbon for a 3km stage! :rolleyes:

+1

[Mintexmemory]

Well, it's of course easier to keep the vehicle on the road if you drive a bit slower... (this doesn't apply to Ogier in most cases, however...)
So despite all his obvious speed this morning how many points will Mads pick up? Great to see 2 guys really pushing but I think Elfyn is following orders about his pace ("don't go so fast that Matthew looks bad when he gets his turn")

[dimviii]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHpuOrpCcAEFb7A.jpg

[dimviii]

a photo from ss
https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/540202_376305195737809_644381156_n.jpg

[Tom206wrc]

Something happened on SS3 ??? Many of the latest drivers were driving like "tourists"...looks like they will get notional times :confused:

[wwbroe]

PG stopped in the stage !!!

[A FONDO]

PG stopped in the stage !!!

yes, and I drank a glass of water. obvious, predictable things....

[darkstar]

ah damn...any news on pg? accident or technical?

[Mirek]

Both Lappi and Kubica have history for throwing it off the road when well-placed, Elfyn never has.

What history about Lappi You mean? He hit a stone in SS1 in RMC but that can hardly be counted as such case as the rally hardly started. In NORF it was engine failure. He won all rounds of Finnish championship last year as well as Rally Poland where he first run for Škoda.

[wwbroe]

Looks like stage 3 was also disaster for Fiesta's R2, all of them loosing considerable amount of time. Cracco Jr now suddenly 2th in R2 with his Pug 208, only two places behind his father with S2000 Pug.

[GallardoGT]

It must be frustrating for Kubica when Lappi always passes him after the last split :p :, this time by 0.1s...
That is you call 'a Lappi lap'.

[PLuto]

Something happened on SS3 ??? Many of the latest drivers were driving like "tourists"...looks like they will get notional times :confused:

Kogler crashed and blocked the road. Crews behind him stopped there.

[Rally Talent]

What history about Lappi You mean? He hit a stone in SS1 in RMC but that can hardly be counted as such case as the rally hardly started. In NORF it was engine failure. He won all rounds of Finnish championship last year as well as Rally Poland where he first run for Škoda.

I was wondering the same. The SS1 incidence, however, was a really good lesson for Esapekka. He still made the fastest time on that SS, driving on 3 wheels... shows some real attitude!

[dimviii]

Prokop on the way to ss
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/549582_369984323107962_364720139_n.jpg

[wwbroe]

Kogler crashed and blocked the road. Crews behind him stopped there.

So that is the reason why all Fiesta's R2 were loosing so much time, will they get notional time? I suppose they will, if not they are in very bad situation.

[smsgrafica]

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20130412-4561-low-VW-WRC13-04-MBP-0461.jpg http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20130412-4557-low-VW-WRC13-04-DR2-2371.jpg http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20130412-4560-low-VW-WRC13-04-MBP-0423.jpg

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally)2λ (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/322705176316215297)
From PG 1/2 "Lost complete right rear corner !!! Before ss 4 i found that the hubb was lose and one m12 nut was missing"
From PG 2/2 "tried to fixit , but broke down 13 km in to the stage"

[Mintexmemory]

What history about Lappi You mean? He hit a stone in SS1 in RMC but that can hardly be counted as such case as the rally hardly started. In NORF it was engine failure. He won all rounds of Finnish championship last year as well as Rally Poland where he first run for Škoda.

Apologies to Lappi fans and those with a passion for the 'correct' - My memory played me false (early dementia is my excuse). Esapekka was clearly a victim of Solberg-Latvala syndrome on the Monte (a condition where inanimate objects throw themselves in the path of a car's suspension / wheels without any fault on the part of the driver, thereby leading to an outbreak of the 'Would'ves' among their fans).
To be clear, I hope this stays a 3-way battle for the whole rally and I don't mind who wins

[uranium]

Prokop on the way to ss

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/549582_369984323107962_364720139_n.jpg

Surely obeying all the rules

[dimviii]

Colin Clark ‏@voiceofrally (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally)1λ (https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/322712219827712001)
Mads went into the corner one gear too high, hit the bank on the right and rolled down onto the access road

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHqBDdwCMAAdwJF.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHqA8iFCYAAFfNG.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHqBmyQCEAApuAQ.jpg

[Mirek]

Surely obeying all the rules

Fiesta WRC at 130 km/h must have something around 5000-5500 rpm on 6th gear which is much more than my stock car. Be aware that driving on 6th gear doesn't mean to drive super-fast. The rally/racing gearboxes are much shorter than stock ones because those are built for sound comfort, fuel consumption and reliability. I can imagine he is running even slower in the photo.

[wwbroe]

I see they gave Fiesta's R2 same time on stage 3 as they did on stage 1, why they don't get a notional time?

[faateris]

Eh, this Year will be really tough for Ford. :( Three master's of crash.......
Shame for PG. :(
My hope's for Sordo good result.

[Fly]

"I see they gave Fiesta's R2 same time on stage 3 as they did on stage 1, why they don't get a notional time?"

Yes, strange... Never saw that before.

Lemes lost another full minute on ss3 with no logic if you look at his times on ss2 and 4.

Aasen is doing good.

[Rallyper]

I think Mads has felt the pressure from the very beginning this year. A bit the same as for JML during the past years. Hope this doesn´t mean Mads will continue crashing, because it hasn´t been his style when driving the Adapta Fiesta.
Looking at his test video it´s very fast handling on test before Portugal and that speed doesn´t work through a whole rally of Portugal´s caliber. Sooner or later you´d crash.

[dimviii]

World Rally Championship - News - Ostberg: ‘I misheard pace note’ (http://www.wrc.com/news/ostberg-i-misheard-pace-note/?fid=18454)

[Mintexmemory]

"I see they gave Fiesta's R2 same time on stage 3 as they did on stage 1, why they don't get a notional time?"

Yes, strange... Never saw that before.

Lemes lost another full minute on ss3 with no logic if you look at his times on ss2 and 4.

Aasen is doing good.
Hopefully Lemes will appeal that overnight as it virtually rules out his chance of a podium (but could make for some very interesting driving tomorrow!)

[Bartek]

First time i think Kościuszko said that with Michelin are way better than DMack, so maybe now when his MINI is in good shape he only need to have good tyres...

[Bartek]

Kubica OUT! Problems with tyre on liason

[oerigh]

Apologies to Lappi fans and those with a passion for the 'correct' - My memory played me false (early dementia is my excuse). Esapekka was clearly a victim of Solberg-Latvala syndrome on the Monte (a condition where inanimate objects throw themselves in the path of a car's suspension / wheels without any fault on the part of the driver, thereby leading to an outbreak of the 'Would'ves' among their fans).
To be clear, I hope this stays a 3-way battle for the whole rally and I don't mind who wins

And you're supposed to be a moderator here, give me a break...
Monte Carlo was disgracefully organized, so the results on that rally don't really matter a thing.

[HarriK]

Apologies to Lappi fans and those with a passion for the 'correct' - My memory played me false (early dementia is my excuse). Esapekka was clearly a victim of Solberg-Latvala syndrome on the Monte (a condition where inanimate objects throw themselves in the path of a car's suspension / wheels without any fault on the part of the driver, thereby leading to an outbreak of the 'Would'ves' among their fans).
To be clear, I hope this stays a 3-way battle for the whole rally and I don't mind who wins

that rock in monte carlo ended also some other car race if i remember right...

[Mintexmemory]

And you're supposed to be a moderator here, give me a break...
Monte Carlo was disgracefully organized, so the results on that rally don't really matter a thing.

Excuse me are you taking anything for that?

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lOFbyUvQmnc

[RAS007]

And you're supposed to be a moderator here, give me a break...
Monte Carlo was disgracefully organized, so the results on that rally don't really matter a thing.

Wow. Interesting eighth post. What the hell is your problem?

[Micke_VOC]

http://photo.blogpressapp.com/big_photos/13/04/12/700.jpg
PG lost a M12-nut to the rear hub at SS3, tried to fix it before SS4 but did lost the whole suspension...

[Tom206wrc]

Kubica OUT! Problems with tyre on liason


Oh noooo ;(

[PLuto]

"I see they gave Fiesta's R2 same time on stage 3 as they did on stage 1, why they don't get a notional time?"

Yes, strange... Never saw that before.

Lemes lost another full minute on ss3 with no logic if you look at his times on ss2 and 4.

Aasen is doing good.

I have seen this system, some stewards/CoC are using it, for example in Austria. For me it is one big stupidity...

[HarriK]

https://www.facebook.com/harri.kivimaki.3/photos_stream#!/photo.php?fbid=10151542527027182&set=pb.518552181.-2207520000.1365784617&type=3&theater



Best i can offer now..sorry

[smsgrafica]

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20130412-4611-low-VW-WRC13-04-BK1-1537.jpghttp://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/uploads/vw_pics/vw-20130412-4615-low-VW-WRC13-04-BK1-1569.jpg

[SubaruNorway]

SSS live on TV?

[HarriK]

Best i can offer now..sorry

http://harrinkuvat.1g.fi/#/kuvat/Rallikuvat/2013/RallyPortugal/ss2/20130412_175329.jpg

[stefanvv]

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Portugal/Berichterstattung/2013/20130412/1430_Galerie_des_Tages/886x498vw-20130412-4613.jpghttp://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Portugal/Berichterstattung/2013/20130412/1430_Galerie_des_Tages/886x498_vw-20130412-4615.jpghttp://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Portugal/Berichterstattung/2013/20130412/1430_Galerie_des_Tages/886x498_vw-20130412-4557.jpg

[PLuto]

Not only Kubica, but also Magalhaes retired on liaison before SS 5...

[Micke_VOC]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jH8a0fNje2Y

Not crash but he is off... Seems that the corner have good "siktfel" =)

[stefanvv]

Luckily for Kubica, no barrier this time

[PLuto]

SSS live on TV?

Direto RTP2 - RTP Play - RTP (http://www.rtp.pt/play/direto/rtp2)

expected start at 20:00 CET

[Fast Eddie WRC]

SSS live on TV?

Doesnt seem to be on TV in Portugal til 19.00 (20.00CET) and so must be just highlights ??

SPORTV GRATIS ONLINE EM DIRECTO - RTP 2 grátis, rtp2 online em direto! (http://www.estadio.in/rtp2)

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1135/1135_vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2013_76f29f1dbe.jp g

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1135/1135_vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2013_d91dff2203.jp g

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1135/1135_vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2013_dc84d87bc0.jp g

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2013/1135/1135_vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2013_697419ccc6.jp g

More photos from DAY 1 HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1135)

[SubaruNorway]

Thanks! Will take a while before the WRC cars are in the stage so could still be live.

[Juha_Koo]

Reversed order for the SSS?

[PLuto]

Reversed order for the SSS?

Yes

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Live SSS: SPORTV GRATIS ONLINE EM DIRECTO - RTP 2 grátis, rtp2 online em direto! (http://www.estadiofutebol.com/rtp2)

The other RTP stream is only available in Portugal.


Twitter info
VolkswagenRally ‏@VolkswagenRally (https://twitter.com/VolkswagenRally)29m (https://twitter.com/VolkswagenRally/status/322766173294968833)
Super special "Lisboa" (SS5) to kick off for the Volkswagen drivers 19:29 (@AMikkelsenRally (https://twitter.com/AMikkelsenRally)), 19:46 (@JariMattiWRC (https://twitter.com/JariMattiWRC)), 19:48 hrs (@SebOgier (https://twitter.com/SebOgier))

[JRodrigues]

Yes, it's live now. just got home and i'm going to have one hour of rally :cool: first time in many years I'm not in Algarve :\

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Two spins already by Gorban :D

[EightGear]

AL Kuwari crashed in the first corner of the SSS...

[HarriK]

AL Kuwari crashed in the first corner of the SSS...

and jammed transmission totally..propably front and rear transmission case covers brokes in that kind of impact.

[Bartek]

From what i see Kubica have chance tomorrow in WRC2, now Wiegand made big mistake

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Ha ha.. wheel/tyre flies off for Weigand :D

[stefanvv]

What a moment with Wiegang's wheel :eek:

[Andre Oliveira]

I hate this SSS. Crapy idea.

[JRodrigues]

From what I see, WRC is full of Ken Blocks now...

[Bartek]

Quick buckle belt for Wiegand :)

[stefanvv]

I wonder if he could finish faster with 3 wheels

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Evans and Barrable both going well and looking really aggressive in their Ford's :)

[JRodrigues]

..but stil, Ricardo Moura is fastest :cool:

[Andre Oliveira]

Moura deserves the next step: Skoda Fabia S2000

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Bonnet flown up now on Michal Kosciuszko Mini... its not been dull ! :D

[stefanvv]

Kosciuszko is cheering the croud with the bonnet :D

[stefanvv]

Hirvonen wins the "Mickey Mouse" stage :)

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Something always happens on the M-M stages though !

https://o.twimg.com/2/proxy.jpg?t=HBgpaHR0cHM6Ly90d2l0cGljLmNvbS9zaG93L2 xhcmdlL2NpdjFvbC5qcGcUsAQUrAIAFgASAA&s=8n0AK62beUqyKfLiSlDmAKNiLtWw7Q831R2j430p6s4


After DAY1
Ogier leads Sordo+4.4, JML+11.4, Hirvo+16.2, Neuville+30.7, Novi+1.17, Al-Atti+2.16.4, Prokop+2.27.9, Kos+2.37.1

[WRC3]

So on first leg, 5 stages we have 4 different winner: Ogier (1), Ostberg (2), Sordo (3+4), Hirvonen (5). And JML and Neuville were very close to another. In fact 6 drivers possible for stage win, except Novikov who is surprisely far away.

[dimviii]

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[stefanvv]

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Portugal/Berichterstattung/2013/20130412/1430_Galerie_des_Tages/886x498_vw-20130412-4631.jpghttp://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Portugal/Berichterstattung/2013/20130412/1430_Galerie_des_Tages/886x498_vw-20130412-4629.jpghttp://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/fileadmin/user_upload/Fans_Friends/1%20WRC/Rallye/Portugal/Berichterstattung/2013/20130412/1430_Galerie_des_Tages/886x498_vw-20130412-4630.jpg

[Jerra]

I wonder if he could finish faster with 3 wheels

Its right decision, because 285 kms road section left to Faro

[stefanvv]

Its right decision, because 285 kms road section left to Faro

He can't change it on the roasd section? Why?

[Jerra]

He can't change it on the roasd section? Why?

Normally he could but probably after few kms without one wheel damage could be worst and more risky for such long road section

[stefanvv]

Normally he could but probably after few kms without one wheel damage could be worst and more risky for such long road section

Yeah, possibly

[Jerra]

Yeah, possibly

Better to lose 3 mins than whole rally, because after that hard impact crew didn't knew damage level.
But funny how wheel hit timing beam

[jbmarcus21]

[GALLERY PHOTOS] DAY1
Wrc Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2013 (http://planetemarcus.com/saison-wrc/portugal-2013/)

http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/5982/3895a.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/3895a.jpg/)

[dimviii]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8114/8642846135_ac84d64ff7_c.jpghttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8119/8643943610_496a98e042_c.jpghttp://farm9.staticflickr.com/8525/8643424404_db6143b2cc_c.jpg

2013 WRC Rally de Portugal - a set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/bestofrallylive/sets/72157633216413901/)

[dimviii]

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xyylh0#.UWhqa6IqzAE

[Andre Oliveira]

Someone know the times of classics on SSS today? And category A on Fafe last weekend?

[MAXLD]

This stage was ridiculous. It makes a bit of sense to make this one in this location, but on the first day as a first stage! To do half-day of tough gravel stages at the far South and then having to drive 200Km up (and then down) to do a 3Km stage where things can go very wrong, it's just absolute nonsense. Can't believe the teams were up to it.

There's no need for this. It's a nice stage but not so far away from the rally itself that they have to drive there, and not during the middle of the rally. Besides, it was also not a good hour to do it... a few more terminal crashes/problems and that thing would delay into the night, it almost did today, and they were lucky because the weather was clear/sunny today and not overcast or rainy like a few days ago.


Can't wait for 2014 for the rally to go back to Fafe/Arganil, this Algarve setting/plan was getting worse year by year.
Up there hope they can make a Lousada / Baltar stage, which is much, much better.

- Lousada:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTIq5hOcjnU

- Baltar:
TAP Rali de Portugal 1999 - PEC 1 Baltar (Directo) - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uE_l8DuyKDk)

[dimviii]

Mads Østberg @MadsOstberg (https://twitter.com/MadsOstberg)
Confirmed ready for Rally2 tomorrow!

Photo by madsostberg • Instagram (http://instagram.com/p/YBDDdrJkjr/)

Kubicas ds3 is under working at service park.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHrf3bNCEAA--3f.jpg

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8lwfU1ZZ2hA

[Andre Oliveira]

MAXLD --> 5 stars

[dimviii]

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photos/vodafone_rally_de_portugal_2013/tan_dsc_5310.jpg

eWRC.cz - Fotogalerie Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2013 Timo Anis (http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/fotogalery.php?events=6534&fotograf=79)

[PLuto]

Start list into second leg - Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2013 - Start order - leg 2 - Rally-Base (http://rally-base.com/2013/vodafone-rally-de-portugal-2013/start-list/?startTimeTypeId=299)

[dimviii]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FaTTYrBjUXk

[tfp]

Dissapointed with Ostberg today :(

Still plenty of excitement to come though, I hope Sordo gets his first win :cool:

[Andre Oliveira]

Ostberg uses this car on all 4 rounds of the season. M-Sport sold all cars???

[Mirek]

Monte Carlo was disgracefully organized, so the results on that rally don't really matter a thing.

What???

[kober]

Why did Kubica receive +10 mins, instead of +5, for not completing the last stage of the leg?

[JRodrigues]

Because if you're out in the last stage you get 10 minutes penalty. always been like that.

[RICARDO75]

Why did Kubica receive +10 mins, instead of +5, for not completing the last stage of the leg?

Strange! Also Magalhães, Al Kuwari and Cracco got 10 minutes penalty

[mousti]

Thats normal and avoids people who would take advantage of it.
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[AscaniaRacing]

Gorban is out after complete day1 - transmission is broken.

[Bartek]

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1696/90426244038587271360018.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/90426244038587271360018.jpg/)


Pansieri going from Lisbon to Faro, not normal that co-driver is driver, despite of liaison :)

[dimviii]

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/563025_10151433782353952_917742310_n.jpghttps://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/555775_444322078987050_189459096_n.jpg

[stefanvv]

The crews are leaving for the opening stage today - WRC.com LIVE-Stream (http://cdn.laola1.tv//wrc/live/player5.html)

[A FONDO]

1st stage of the day is underway :s mokin:

[stefanvv]

Ostberg is cleaning the road, but so far no one is faster than him :)

[wwbroe]

Neuville off the road, what a shame. He hit a rock and went off.

[wwbroe]

Neuville off the road, what a shame. He hit a rock and went off. :(

[makinen_fan]

Where is Kosciuszko? Off or just splits problem?

[JRodrigues]

Latvala with +0.0 in 3 splits with Östberg! :p Very good opening from Mads.

[Tom206wrc]

Hirvonen, Sordo and Ogier only, ahead of Östberg ;)

[Tom206wrc]

Where is Kosciuszko? Off or just splits problem?

Same about Neuville :confused:

[WRC3]

I never saw Sordo to fight for victory (in my mind before Fafe Sprint), but now he is on the way to catch Ogier!

I think Kosciuszko Splits are not working, as yesterday one time.

[stefanvv]

Sordo is flying

[Tom206wrc]

Sordo lost 1'11 in one split !!! :s

[WRC3]

Sordo .... :-(

[rallye-vid]

wtf ...

[stefanvv]

What?!?

[Tom206wrc]

Neuville crashed :confused:

[Juha_Koo]

Damn, I would have really wanted to Sordo to get a good result... :/

[Evian]

PGA stopped. Car only runs on three cylinders... :(

[EightGear]

Mehhhh, Sordo..... :(

[WRC3]

With JML, there are 5 different stage winners on 6 stages. Good.