WRC-Neste Oil Rally Finland 2012

[olemann]

Download Puffin from the App Store and navigated to World Rally Championship - Fanzone - WRC Live (http://www.wrc.com/fanzone/wrc-live) and you get wrc rally radio in Ipad and Iphone. It is only a prerequisite for that it works. You must be Petter Solberg supporter;-)

[kirungi okwogera]

So sad to hear about Paddon but consider his insane record of not retiring... juwra.com**|**Statistics - Retirements (http://www.juwra.com/stats_dnf.html)
I guess he had to have bad luck once. Thought the new BRR team was nearly retirement-free, seemed like a perfect combination of driver and team.

[Miika]

Atko´s visit to the Finnish countryside:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnwGpTDihJU

[Ucci]

I envy all those who are watching this high-speed spectacle in live, already reading your posts is a real pleasure......except mosquitoes, this is pain in the butt....My short comment over drivers, who surprised me positively: Loeb (I did not expect him to fight for the first place, he doesn't need to take this risk. On the other way, he might yust drive on 99%, who knows...).
Atkinson (until his retirement he was in a close fight with Tänak, not so far from Neuville; well done for a guy who was looking modern WRC cars yust from photos...), Jarkko Nikara (to be in the contact with fastest guys in s2000 cars, well IMHO you have to squeeze last drops from N4-R4 car).
I can not say that I'm disappointed over Solberg and JML, but at the top there is always a place yust for one driver (and a co-driver, of course) and this time it is not their time.....as so many many times in the last past eight, nine years....
I think tomorow it will be all red at the podium. Deserved.....

[A FONDO]

So sad to hear about Paddon but consider his insane record of not retiring... juwra.com**|**Statistics - Retirements (http://www.juwra.com/stats_dnf.html)
I guess he had to have bad luck once. Thought the new BRR team was nearly retirement-free, seemed like a perfect combination of driver and team.

The fate is playing games I think, redemption for Portugal maybe?

[AP-Racing]

Evgeny novikov after crash Finland 2012 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9XS_zpi5tw)

[danon]

... I can not say that I'm disappointed over Solberg and JML, but at the top there is always a place yust for one driver (and a co-driver, of course) and this time it is not their time.....as so many many times in the last past eight, nine years....
I think tomorow it will be all red at the podium. Deserved.....


All the red (ness) can turn into white with blue stripes...
You never know by the final (whistle) blow! :D

[Rally Hokkaido]

Nice battle for second in the WRC Academy - four drivers within 12ses!

[stefanvv]

yes like ketomaa, paasonen, rovanpera, rantanen, lindroos, pykalisto, nikara blah blah blah....

Well, not everyone can become champion, but there are plenty of them - Markku Alen, Ari Vatanen, Hannu Mikkola, Timo Salonen, Juha Kankkunen, Tomi Makkinen, Marcus Gronholm. But you already know that ;)

[Bracame]

Morning, all...

[Tom206wrc]

No split for Hirvonen at all :confused:

[cali]

No splits for Hirvonen at the moment but he is going strong :)

[stefanvv]

Completes the stage 3rd, but might have puncture

[GigiGalliNo1]

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[TyPat107]

Just heard Block is out?

[N.O.T]

Block stopped.

[Tom206wrc]

Game over for Block on SS14 :mark:

[Miika]

Right front wheel gave up, after some heavy jump(ing) apparently.

[Tom206wrc]

And Seb' showing again Petter and Jari-Mati's splits can be improved ;)

[logic]

The Citroen is far stronger in this rally.

[wwbroe]

The Citroen is far stronger in this rally.


Ofcourse, it has to be the car, nothing to do with the drivers :D

[Tom206wrc]

Game over for Juha Salo too ??? :(

[N.O.T]

Hirvonen takes 1.5 back... I think the rally is over... no more risks by anyone.

[Miika]

http://img.yle.fi/uutiset/ralliradio/article6242670.ece/ALTERNATES/w580/

[Tom206wrc]

Hirvonen takes 1.5 back... I think the rally is over... no more risks by anyone.


25"(on Latvala) isn't a sufficient gap for Citroën Racing to give team orders yet ;)
Especially with the rerun of SS13/14 and Ouninpohja to run twice too :mark:

[stefanvv]

World Rally Championship - News - Citroen drivers free to fight in Finland (http://www.wrc.com/news/citroen-drivers-free-to-fight-in-finland/?fid=17175)

[GigiGalliNo1]

Free to fight you say!?

[Ucci]

25"(on Latvala) isn't a sufficient gap for Citroën Racing to give team orders yet ;)
Especially with the rerun of SS13/14 and Ouninpohja to run twice too :mark:

I think the game is over-if Seb or Mikko won't hit any technical troubles or flat tyres, Latvala can't threat Citroën boys as it is more than obvious that he can not drive any faster. He has not hidden ace in his sleeve yust for the last couple of stages. I yust hope, that no one will risk his position and go 110% flat on the power stage, because the PS is so long and the risk to break something or even damage the car is enormous.

[stefanvv]

Free to fight you say!?

Matton claims that.

Edit: I would say Loeb will win if they stay on the road.

[Tom206wrc]

What courage and passion must have Belgian Renaud Bronkart !!! To run Finland in a 2WD small Toyota Yaris, and taking mounts of minutes in teeths by all the fields each stage... :eek:

[Wim_Impreza]

What courage and passion must have Belgian Renaud Bronkart !!! To run Finland in a 2WD small Toyota Yaris, and taking mounts of minutes in teeths by all the fields each stage... :eek:

Yes, much respect to him. He prefers to do big international events for some years instead to drive the full Belgian rally championship and that is a really good idea. :)

[Allyc85]

I hear there is live streaming of todays stages. Is this true and does someone have a link? :)

[N.O.T]

Unless Hirvonen pulls something crazy on the Uoninpohja Loeb will win in Finalnd again... he made a sick dog joke out fo the local kids... What a Legend.

[stefanvv]

MTV3 Day 1 report

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1KeUxV-RWs

[Hartusvuori]

The most exciting part of the rally is on! Spectator liason to Ouninpohja...

Did Surkee 1 and 2. No situations at known crash place, right with field at back, at Surkee end loop. Second round we spent at last junction right. Nice for a change after all jumps and fast passages.

[GigiGalliNo1]

OUCH!

https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/231677905749544960/photo/1

[Tom206wrc]

Östberg at end of SS16 ??? :confused:

[Tom206wrc]

Loeb + Latvala equal best time on SS16...Hirvo only +0"1 slower ;)


Bring on Ouninpohja now :bounce:

[Allyc85]

OUCH!

https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/231677905749544960/photo/1

Foooookin hell! :eek:

New pants please!

[Rally Hokkaido]

You guys have all the fun at rallies ;-)
OUCH!

https://twitter.com/voiceofrally/status/231677905749544960/photo/1

[stefanvv]

Why Ouninpohja wasn't in NORF recent years?

[sete]

what hapened to Ostberg??

[eib1]

broken driveshaft or something like that

[Tom206wrc]

Pitty Molly Taylor had toretire after SS15 :(

[Fly]

Why Ouninpohja wasn't in NORF recent years?

I think that average speed has been an issue a few years ago. More than 120km/h (or was it 130??) on 33km was a problem for the FIA.

They first split the stage in two parts but that was not the smartest idea. Then they skipped it for two years I think.

But I heard there is no chicanes this year so the average speed will again be breath-taking.

Bring it on!!!

[N.O.T]

I really hope Breen takes the SWRC win... It is going to be a very special moment for him.

[noel157]

I really hope Breen takes the SWRC win... It is going to be a very special moment for him.

Hope so too.

Paul Nagle after SS16: SWRC WRC Live interview with Paul Nagle in service after SS16 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDtef2vlDbY&feature=em-uploademail)

[Rally Hokkaido]

Actually, she just tweeted to say that the engine was only running on 3 cylinders so they were forced to retire while leading class
Pitty Molly Taylor had toretire after SS15 :(

[Tom206wrc]

Start of Ouninpohja 1 right NOW :cool:

[darkstar]

is the powerstage live somewhere?

[N.O.T]

Nobre should be kicked out of he sport...

[Tom206wrc]

Problem or GPS for Tahko :confused:

[Miika]

Tahko possibly rolled (?) or at least stopped around 5 km - and also Novikov missing a junction in the small road.

[Tom206wrc]

Neuville way slower than Atkinson looks like :confused:

[N.O.T]

No reason to take any risks..especially on a astage like ouninpojha

[stefanvv]

Problem or GPS for Tahko :confused:

GPS glitch I guess.

[EightGear]

Rally Radio is saying there is a screen showing Ouninpohja live in the service park. Anyone who knows more about this?

[Francis44]

It will be interesting to see what can Hirvonnen do here. If he wins 3 or 4 seconds it's ON again.

[stefanvv]

Rally Radio is saying there is a screen showing Ouninpohja live in the service park. Anyone who knows more about this?

I believe it is local tv, no streaming.

[EightGear]

Tahko crashed and is blocking the stage a bit, so there is a little delay after Prokop.

[sete]

R.Tahko has crash -crews are OK but the car is blocking the stage

[EightGear]

I believe it is local tv, no streaming.


Ok thank you. Shame.

[Tom206wrc]

Once again frozen splits on WRC.COM :mark:


Edit: OK I've got your answers ;)

[GigiGalliNo1]

Stage on hold due to car on road/in middle of stage...

[Miika]

Judging by the footage it is in the woods on its side, not on the road. Unless they have removed it already.

http://img.mtv3.fi/mn_kuvat/mtv3/urheilu/1024px/2012/008/1453839-max555x555.jpg

[Francis44]

Rest of competitors already running.

[bf1_IRL]

Quick question, is there a feed from mtv3 available online?

[Tom206wrc]

Hirvonen -0"1 on Loeb on split 1... ;)


...but already Loeb -0"1 on split 2 :p :

...and on split 3 Hirvo back faster than Loeb :)

[stefanvv]

Hirvonen -0"1 on Loeb on split 1... ;)

Big battle there, 0.1 down on second

[Miika]

Ken from the Block this morning:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hhcfnayk9A

[N.O.T]

Hirvonen and Loeb are neck and neck....

[Mirek]

Prokop four seconds faster than Ketomaa. Battle continues to the last stage!

[Francis44]

And Hirvonnen has something left.

[Tom206wrc]

Hirvonen doesn't take enough time to Loeb(only 0"2 after 6 splits) :mark:

[N.O.T]

I think Loeb will be safe.. 2.4 seconds behind 1 split to the end.

[EightGear]

Breen stopped. :(

[Tom206wrc]

Game over for Breen !!! ;(

[stefanvv]

Brave Hirvonen, but only 2.2 up.

[Miika]

Breen rolled in Kakaristo, big time.

[N.O.T]

Loeb just 2.2 slower at the end....

Tough luck for Breen...

[N.O.T]

Damn !!! hope the crew is ok.

[Mirek]

Gutted for Breen.

N.O.T.: Others are running so they are probably ok.

[Mikkaki]

I hope god is with Breen this time.

[Francis44]

I hope they're both ok.

[Miika]

Yes they are both out of the car and ok. The car rolled 4 times in total.

[EightGear]

They are OK. Thank god.

[Mirek]

Lappi is flying.

[skarderud]

sorry for breen, he deserved to finish!

petter said that he goes all in for the powerstage, maybe he used this run to adjust his notes? hopefully, at least.

[Francis44]

The best stage time this year is not far from the record of the old 2.0 WRC cars, plus drivers are saying the stage is very slippery. It will be interesting to see how faster can they go 2nd time.

[Tom206wrc]

Salo out too ??? :confused:


Edit: strange, his time was given after the ones coming after him :mark:

[darkstar]

wow, lappi is crazy! almost similar time like atkinson, ketomaa and prokop in wrc´s and much faster then all the other s2000 guys, great!

big pitty for breen, that swrc win would have been great for him. but i´m also quite happy for andersson and proton if they will win this swrc rallye.

[Tom206wrc]

Lindroos is flying on Ouninpohja among the 2WDs :cool:

[Francis44]

Is Lappi doing any other rally in the championship this year?

[Mirek]

Lindroos is flying on Ouninpohja among the 2WDs :cool:

It's superfast stage and the C2R2 Max has 20 Hp ore than Fiestas.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

That's a real shame for Breen... his comeback was hard enough after losing Gareth, and he had been going so well.

Hope he's not to shaken by another accident.

[userwave]

Game over for Block on SS14 :mark:

Well thankfully the rich American didn't kill anyone in the process

[userwave]

That's a real shame for Breen... his comeback was hard enough after losing Gareth, and he had been going so well.

Hope he's not to shaken by another accident.

Yes, really feel for the guy

[Tom206wrc]

Timo van der Marel crashed out too :confused:

[Miika]

Breen´s roll:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2biL_8EK2os

[Tom206wrc]

That's a real shame for Breen... his comeback was hard enough after losing Gareth, and he had been going so well.

Hope he's not to shaken by another accident.


Normally he(and Paul)will drive the new Peugeot 208 R2 as opener(0 car)at Ulster Rally later this month ;)

[Mirek]

Well thankfully the rich American didn't kill anyone in the process

That was a stupid comment. Don't You think?

[EightGear]

Damn, big shame about Van der Marel... He was doing very well.

[Tom206wrc]

Is Malcolm Wilson JOKING :confused: he says he's happy with current results because 7 Fiestas WRC are within the top10(even if not first and second) :eek: when you sell/rent many cars it's easier to fill the top10(Citroën's policy isn't selling/renting many cars) :rolleyes:

[Mirek]

Is Malcolm Wilson JOKING :confused: he says he's happy with current results because 7 Fiestas WRC are within the top10(even if not first and second) :eek: when you sell/rent many cars it's easier to fill the top10(Citroën's policy isn't selling/renting many cars) :rolleyes:

It's very different case. Citroën gets much more money from the brand than Malcolm from Ford. He needs so many cars, Citroën racing not.

[stefanvv]

Is Malcolm Wilson JOKING :confused: he says he's happy with current results because 7 Fiestas WRC are within the top10(even if not first and second) :eek: when you sell/rent many cars it's easier to fill the top10(Citroën's policy isn't selling/renting many cars) :rolleyes:

What else he might say? Obviously not "Fiesta is faster than DS3".

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Anyone found a link for the live Power Stage ?

[stefanvv]

Breen´s roll:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2biL_8EK2os

My God, that was massive. I can imagine what run through his head at this moment. Hope he will overcome this.

[dimviii]

what a photo...https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/422246_504529732895879_437427678_n.jpg

[noel157]

Think's that's the same corner that Hirvonen nearly lost it a few years ago, no?

[TG]

Think's that's the same corner that Hirvonen nearly lost it a few years ago, no?

yes. same place. Hirvonen gets a bit too much sideways | Finland 2007 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whBtnPasQp0)

[Mirek]

Yep

[Tom206wrc]

SS18 running now :bounce:
Who will get the 3 points bonus ??? I say Mikko :D

[Tom206wrc]

It's very different case. Citroën gets much more money from the brand than Malcolm from Ford. He needs so many cars, Citroën racing not.


In fact I didn't criticized the renting/selling cars part, but the fact to use it in press release to exprime an happiness(or a satisfaction) when it's simply normal to get this result in such conditions :mark:

[GigiGalliNo1]

Who is that guy in the middle of the photo in red? Some newbie?

[noel157]

Who is that guy in the middle of the photo in red? Some newbie?

Yep, some new guy, has no future.....

[sete]

Who is that guy in the middle of the photo in red? Some newbie?

i supposed you are joking :-)
if not you didnt follow world rally champ in last 8 years :-DDD

[Josti]

Is Lappi doing any other rally in the championship this year?

He's on the entrylist of Rally Deutschland, only with a R2 Citroën. Not sure, but I think it will be his first event on tarmac.

[Tom206wrc]

Wonder if Neuville will have corrected his notes for the second passage ;)

[GigiGalliNo1]

8 years? on and off :p

haha, following morelike 12-14 years now! =D

[OldF]

Rally Radio is saying there is a screen showing Ouninpohja live in the service park. Anyone who knows more about this?

Try if this link work outside Finland
Katsomo - Neste Oil Rally Finland: EK 18, Ouninpohja (Power Stage) (http://www.katsomo.fi/?progId=133958)

[Tom206wrc]

Where's Paulo Nobre :confused:
Finished to visit Finland as tourist and back to Brazil ??? :laugh:

[dimviii]

lol
http://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/12/15/26/89/27790010.jpg

[MJW]

Congratulations to Elfyn Evans and Phil Pugh on winning WRC Academy, built a good lead of over a minute on day one and two and controlled it today to win by 55 seconds.

[Tom206wrc]

Atkinson and Neuville really faster than Novikov on this second passage in Ouninpohja :cool:

[N.O.T]

Atkinson and Neuville really faster than Novikov on this second passage in Ouninpohja :cool:

i do not think that any of the 3 are above 70% of their skills.... nothing to aim for.

[Tom206wrc]

Araujo is also missing :confused:

[Luis Pacheco]

Araujo is also missing :confused:

He´s always missing in the times table...

Power Stage = Fast drivers

[stefanvv]

Who is that guy in the middle of the photo in red? Some newbie?

Must be some mechanic appeared there by chance...

[Miika]

Araujo is also missing :confused:

A change in the running order, the dynamic MINI duo will come after Loeb & co.

[Mirek]

Prokop 5,2 seconds faster than Ketomaa after the half of stage. Let's see!

[EightGear]

Try if this link work outside Finland
Katsomo - Neste Oil Rally Finland: EK 18, Ouninpohja (Power Stage) (http://www.katsomo.fi/?progId=133958)

Unfortunately not, it loads a page where you need to pay (I think, my Finnish is not very well :p ). Thanks anyway.

[dimviii]

i guess that the Ouninpohja record will be smashed by a lot.Lets see!!

[stefanvv]

lol
http://i35.servimg.com/u/f35/12/15/26/89/27790010.jpg

Someone is robbing that Citroen?

[stefanvv]

i guess that the Ouninpohja record will be smashed by a lot.Lets see!!

Isn't it 15:18:.. or something?

[dimviii]

Isn't it 15:18:.. or something?

i think 15,28 by Petter.Any Finn mate to confirm?


edit yes it is 15,18 :D

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Breen: "Me and Paul both tip top, and that is very much all that matters right now! Thank you all, a little hiccup on the road to recovery!"

Sounds like the crash hasn't affected him too much ! :)

[dimviii]

wow Loeb and Mikko 0,1 through 2nd split, proper dogfight!!!

[Tom206wrc]

Well Latvala slower than Solberg :confused:
Hirvonen a bit faster than Loeb :bounce:

[EightGear]

Petter 15:17.

[stefanvv]

Latvalla is giving Solberg 1 point?

[Mirek]

Petter 15:17,9

[GigiGalliNo1]

P. Solberg "No one is at home eating spaghetti now are they?" hahah

[stefanvv]

Loeb & Hirvonen equal on 4th split...

[Tom206wrc]

Hirvonen about to take the 3 points bonus(one more split to go) :bounce:

[dimviii]

0,1 for Loeb after 6th split!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dimviii]

Mikko winner!!!!

[stefanvv]

What a fight! Congratulations to the winners!

[kiil]

And Mikko 129,59 km/h - close to the magic 130 km/h :-)

[GigiGalliNo1]

Congrats LOEB!! I hope he has a very good future! :p

[Mirek]

And the new Ouninpohja record is 15,17,3. Congrats to Mikko for the stage and to Seb for the rally :)

[dimviii]

record smashed by 0,6.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Craig Breen - A Talent Underlined...

A sad end to what was a great drive by Craig and an excellent job by Paul since he's come on board.

Crashing out when so close to victory is not what Craig wanted but the most important factor is that the lads were able to walk away from the accident.

Craig's performance up to that point underlines his talent and resilience in what was the most difficult rally of his life.

[T.Maanteiden kuningas]

Mikko is fastests man in OUNI!!! WOOW!! Great job!!!! Hardest stage in the world and double victory!

[GigiGalliNo1]

"Loebinen" hahhahaha

[stefanvv]

Congrats LOEB!! I hope he has a very good future! :p

Rally is not for him, I would recommend Le Mans :D

[dimviii]

lololol

SOLBERG P. / PATTERSON C. (st. č. 4) "It was cleaner, but I brake too early one corner before finish. No big mistakes. Jari is on the podium anyway, it is important.

[N.O.T]

What a Legend !!! A proper alpha male dog win !!! and after a great fight for 3 days !!!

And some people actually want them to leave the sport...

Nice rally overall although i would like mikko to take it...

Huge disappointment was Latvala... he prefered not to crash this time... he needs the budget to capture that VW seat probably.

Germany next... Loeb land.

[Tom206wrc]

"Loebinen" hahhahaha



No, no: "Loebinnen" or even better "Löbinnen" :p :

[EightGear]

"Maybe my new name will be Loebinnen now." :D

[AndyRAC]

Another Tour de Force by Loeb - showed the locals the way home. A relatively comfortable 1-2 for Citroen....and Mikko takes the 'record' of Solbergs, which is a misnomer - as he achieved it after retiring from the event, so shouldn't really count.

[wrchirek]

In 2004 Ouninphohja was a bit longer, 33.24 km. Solberg's record was 15:18.5, it is 130.28 km/h average, faster than Hirvonen's time.

Btw. congrats to Loeb, he must be an alien.

Latvala hasn't win any SS.

[EightGear]

Must admit though I expected a bit more from Mikkelsen this event.

[Tom206wrc]

Ogier faster than Novikov on the latest splits :eek:

[N.O.T]

If Loebs head explodes and a little green person comes out and starts yelling " Surrender humans your time has come " i would not be a bit surprised...

The guy is 38 years old and takes risks to win events like Finland...

the sport doesn't need him.... we need incompetent people and slow motion rallying of the 70s and 80s

[Sladden]

Dissapointing rally!
This year Ford was on the pace but crashed. Now they did not crash and was not on the pace... Should have been closer than this!

[Barreis]

10 wins season for Loeb probably.

[Mirek]

Mikkelsen extra slow... some problem probably

[Mirek]

Good for Proton to win SWRC and to finish with both cars but on one hand it's strange when there is Ogier with SWRC car two minutes ahead. I don't like the mandatory registration system. Everyone with the eligible car shall take points...

[Tom206wrc]

Dissapointing rally!
This year Ford was on the pace but crashed. Now they did not crash and was not on the pace... Should have been closer than this!



Rally itself isn't disappointment: FORD is disapointment :mark:

[dimviii]

Loeb= master of rallys.
Big difference in championship points, war with his team mate stage by stage,no mistakes for both,and while an easy 1-2 for them ,they fight for the record and the extra points with worn tyres. Congrats to Seb and Mikko!!!!

hard day for the Loeb haters. :D

[DIMI44]

Rally itself isn't disappointment: FORD is disapointment :mark:

Maybe the new livery is not so fast ......

[Tom206wrc]

...
hard day for the Loeb haters. :D


BrotherJohn should be wearing a french flag in his hands somewhere at home in Sweden and shouting "Vive la France" in the streets now :laugh:

[A FONDO]

Close fight at the top this time but I couldnt feel any pressure, like I've already watched this movie several times. When Latvala and Solberg drive normally they are firmly behind, same as Mikelsen. Good job by Tanak. Kruda too.

[Tom206wrc]

Congratulations to Jonas Lindroos winner of the 2WDs field :)

[Ucci]

Loeb-there are no words that could describe his achievements. Sometimes you start wondering, where all his motivation comes from....And again a day of mourning for all Finish fans-all their theories about the Finns as the best drivers in the world are crumbling in the dust. Pitty for them.....Defeat on a home soil hurts the most.
Still, a lot was happening behind Loeb, a lot of accidents, thanks to god nowebody was injured, happy for Proton, special congrats to Nikara.....
Roll on to the Germany-Loeb's land!!

[N.O.T]

And again a day of mourning for all Finish fans-all their theories about the Finns as the best drivers in the world are crumbling in the dust. Pitty for them.....Defeat on a home soil hurts the most.


The majority of true Finnish rally fans will be happy because the wins Loeb has came by true driving... There is no shame in defeat from a superior opponent, only pride since you need a good opponent (like Hirvonen) to bring the best performance out of of the winner

Of course the little kitties who go to rallies to cheer when they see accidents and get drunk can cry once more... I have no pity for those sick little scared boys...and thank allah/budhah/god and Tao neither is Loeb... The course of the day is tears pain for some years now for them.

[stefanvv]

Dissapointing rally!
This year Ford was on the pace but crashed. Now they did not crash and was not on the pace... Should have been closer than this!

The Rally itself was great. Ford are disappointment whole year, now no one break/crashed, just slower. It was Citroen's Rally to loose, but both drivers did perfect job, especially Loeb.

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1059/1059_neste_oil_rally_finland_2012_d3fbc8ff0a.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1059/1059_neste_oil_rally_finland_2012_522e48a251.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1059/1059_neste_oil_rally_finland_2012_95b33f2b9d.jpg

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1059/1059_neste_oil_rally_finland_2012_9b6734924e.jpg

More photos from last day HERE (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1059)

[Fly]

In non-WRCars great job from the top S2000's + Nikara, Evans and Dubert (20y old Frenchman)

[Hartusvuori]

I'm dead tired. Ouninpohja got the best of me. I'll get back once I resurrect.

[Ucci]

I'm dead tired. Ouninpohja got the best of me. I'll get back once I resurrect.


You lucky guy......write your comments to us ASAP!!

[Jafry]

http://www.rally-mania.cz/fotogalerie/2012/1059/1059_neste_oil_rally_finland_2012_32453b97e7.jpg

Photos from final ceremony (http://www.rally-mania.cz/photogallery.php?id=1059)

[rallye-sport]

Last day -> Photos Rallye de Finlande 2012 (http://www.rallye-sport.fr/photos-rallye-de-filande-2012/)


http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/finlande-2012/finland_32.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/finlande-2012/dsc3222.jpg



http://www.rallye-sport.fr/wp-content/gallery/finlande-2012/finland_30.jpg

[A.F.F.]

I couldn't help it... I had to go to Ouninpohja, Mutasen mutka to be exact. The place is over the crest short downhill and 90 left. Up to Petter, all the guys bumped brakes there on that short downhill. What did Petter and Loeb? They came sideways óver the crest and the whole downhill and as they reached the 90 degree turn, they were already in position to go straight... Yet another tenth of seconds there on that short travel. Latvala also took that turn with caution. Mikko had some pace there but took it very clean way. I also watched the powerstage there but the location I was spectating wasn't anything special.

Congrats Sebastien and Daniel. They had a good start with lead and they just pushed the necessary amount of speed they needed. Loeb is such a gentleman he said that he had to take risks but personally I don't believe it. I believe he had the control all the time and pushed just to keep the gap safe. This year ti was clear after day one that either one of Mikko ja Jari-Matti was not a challenge enough :mark:

I'm very happy about Lappi but I won't jump up and down anymore here on the forum as I noticed the cheering will turn against him :s

Is it safe to say but was this year's NORF a little lame ?? If it wasn't Mikko there wasn't much of fights except S2000.

[stefanvv]

I couldn't help it... I had to go to Ouninpohja, Mutasen mutka to be exact. The place is over the crest short downhill and 90 left. Up to Petter, all the guys bumped brakes there on that short downhill. What did Petter and Loeb? They came sideways óver the crest and the whole downhill and as they reached the 90 degree turn, they were already in position to go straight

It requires very special skills to do that, what a scene. The little things on each corner that make all the difference at the end...

[Arska]

I was at the podium and the crowd didn't cheer so much except for Novikov's crazy russian fans and Larsen's norwegian fans.

[vkangas]

I'm dead tired. Ouninpohja got the best of me. I'll get back once I resurrect.

Same! Just arrived home at Helsinki, enough driving this weekend :)

[eib1]

great rally from Karl Kruuda. Third place on cat. 2 (just 19,1 slower than PG) and 12th overall!

[Wasted Talent]

I'm very happy about Lappi but I won't jump up and down anymore here on the forum as I noticed the cheering will turn against him :s



Very, very impressive - just compare his times to that of Ogiers............

Also Elfyn Evans did a great job again

WT

[sollitt]

Very brave effort from Breen. I hope we see much more of him.

Great showing by Lappi. Yes, NOT is correct. Most countries would boast a number of drivers who could hold their own in equal machinery on their home track. But that ought not detract from what was a very specatcular and talented effort and deriding comments are not warranted. Let's hope we see more of him too.

SWRC is now wide open. This'll be where the interest lies in the remaining few rounds surely.

[tfp]

Cant believe I've missed the coverage of this event, I swear the only people who have had longer shifts than me are the spectators like Hartsvouri! And the marshalls of course :)

Well done to Loeb, the best man won. I was a bit dissapointed it couldn't be a Finn that was on top here though :(

Looking forward to seeing the onboards anyway, especially of this Lappi who I keep hearing about!

[RAS007]

Is it just me, or was this a really short rally? Glancing through the stage lengths, with the exception of the last 2 stages, the average stage length seems to be about 12kms. That seems ridiculous to me. I know Loeb is against returning to longer, endurance type rallies (ie: the true nature and original intent of the sport), but these stages are so short, you might as well be racing round a circuit.

[tfp]

Is it just me, or was this a really short rally? Glancing through the stage lengths, with the exception of the last 2 stages, the average stage length seems to be about 12kms. That seems ridiculous to me. I know Loeb is against returning to longer, endurance type rallies (ie: the true nature and original intent of the sport), but these stages are so short, you might as well be racing round a circuit.

I thought that aswel. I heard they stop the event on saturday night instead of sunday night so the crazy spectators have a day of rest on sunday to recover from all the beer they have drank on friday and saturday....But I dont know if this is true or just hear'say! :D

[6789]

Massive congrats to Loeb, three wins in Finland. He's an absolute freak, it was a close battle and that's what makes it worthwhile for me.

What the hell is up with the Fords?? Just didn't seem to have to setup/pace, I thought they were the quickest car. Have to wait for GB now, hope Jari-Matti Latvala can get some wins. Bring on VW next year, hopefully spice it up with Mr Ogier!!

[Rally Hokkaido]

Conspiracy theory #3448832: Malcolm held Ford works drivers on a tight leash this rally due to pressure from Ford/his bank manager to not have cars drop out/back because of driver error. Please discuss.
Also, someone might like to check when was the last time that both cars completed a rally without incident - seems like at least a year ago to me!

[Mise]

yes. same place. Hirvonen gets a bit too much sideways | Finland 2007 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whBtnPasQp0)

I was there 2007 and i was there yesterday. Was about 10 meters from where the car ended.

[dimviii]

:eek:
Neste Rally Finland 2012 l SS18 OUNINPOHJA NIKARA # 51 BIG SAVE l nokanmov Filmed August 2012-08-04 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6G32N8o-1I&feature=player_embedded)

[Malozerow]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8165/7705731702_89e41c64c2_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/collections/72157630861195978/)
Rallye de Finlande 2012-53.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/7705731702/) by Maxime Malet (http://www.flickr.com/people/7260939@N04/), on Flickr
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8294/7705658818_e6f2c8f82a_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/7705658818/)
Rallye de Finlande 2012-38.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/7705658818/) by Maxime Malet (http://www.flickr.com/people/7260939@N04/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7253/7708598942_4b18aa4176_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/7708598942/)
Rallye de Finlande 2012-58.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/7708598942/) by Maxime Malet (http://www.flickr.com/people/7260939@N04/), on Flickr

More pictures here

[Franky]

I thought that aswel. I heard they stop the event on saturday night instead of sunday night so the crazy spectators have a day of rest on sunday to recover from all the beer they have drank on friday and saturday....But I dont know if this is true or just hear'say! :D

Might be wrong but I think they said that they didn't earn any profit on Sunday because people were returning home or sth.

[Petris]

Rally Finland 2012 Faces and something else..clik clik.. slideshow on (http://www.petriskog.com/Rally/2012/Rally-Finland-2012/24461160_wRZ6wc)

[Mirek]

:eek:
Neste Rally Finland 2012 l SS18 OUNINPOHJA NIKARA # 51 BIG SAVE l nokanmov Filmed August 2012-08-04 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6G32N8o-1I&feature=player_embedded)

WTF???

[stefanvv]

:eek:
Neste Rally Finland 2012 l SS18 OUNINPOHJA NIKARA # 51 BIG SAVE l nokanmov Filmed August 2012-08-04 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6G32N8o-1I&feature=player_embedded)

Is he drunk?

[Ide]

Here are my 229 photos about the rally. (http://www.ilkansivu.net/NORF12/)

[stefanvv]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6igfuD96KmY

[A.F.F.]

:eek:
Neste Rally Finland 2012 l SS18 OUNINPOHJA NIKARA # 51 BIG SAVE l nokanmov Filmed August 2012-08-04 - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6G32N8o-1I&feature=player_embedded)

I'm not sure but the chances are that idiot was very drunk :s

[AMSS]

On my way back home. 10 stages behind us. What's there to say, Citroen has again found something interesting as the are visibly less sideways than the Fords at least all stages we were at.
And mr. Loeb once again proved why he's the best car driver in motorsport history ALL classes inclluded..
Great rally otherwise but thought there was less people than previous years?

[stefanvv]

On my way back home. 10 stages behind us. What's there to say, Citroen has again found something interesting as the are visibly less sideways than the Fords at least all stages we were at.

I think this is the way Citroen goes, some Rallies ago threatened Hirvonen they will remove his handbrake (joking :D ).

[bttmsport]

Most positive results (bit with finnish eyes but if you disagree, give good argument...!): Speed of Esapekka Lappi; unbelievable 13th place of Nikara brothers (aged Evo9, tyre brand Y... beating the whole S2000 group in some stages); but even with disappointing retirement, obviously not even his own fault, Mr Ken Block got a huge supporter club from Finland and with his first outing here, nobody expected that he got such speed.

And in 2WD class some good results also from foreign guys, Dubert from France and Koci from Slovakia, their stage times were totally respectable against 2WD top who have driven here years before.

For the rest, rally was zero. I really look forward to get a proper R2 or R3 world championship if this does not get any better. It seems that in 2WD classes there may be up to ten guys fighting for podium, cars are much more interesting to follow than for example GrN.

[RS]

Only followed this rally casually online, so some questions:

- Was this Neuville's first time in Finland? Times were very impressive before the crash.

- Was Ketomaa on D-Macks? His times were really disappointing.

- Why does it seem that Finns are better in Sweden than they are at home? Are Rally Sweden conditions more difficult to adapt to for a non-Scandinavian that those in Finland. Ok, they didn't exactly do badly here but Mikko was beaten by his team mate and even though he managed to not crash for a change Latvala was barely quicker that Solberg.

[vkangas]

++ Nikara. Amazing speed with that old evo 9 whale. Consistently beating top S2000 drivers and even some WRC drivers.
+ Lappi. Expectations were high and he was great. He has great potential and good that it has been noticed as he just made a contract with Even Rally.
+ Loeb. The master. What else can you say. It's not his fault if the championship is going to be little bit boring. Citroen gave Mikko a fair chance to win but somehow the master was able to squeeze those foew seconds when needed. As NOT mentioned true Finnish rally fans have great respect for him.
+ Neuville. Good speed vs. experience.

- Salo. It seems that he was not able to adapt to S2000 after ~13(!) years with Mitsubishi Lancer.
- Factory Ford / Ford drivers. They seemed to miss that last bit of something. For example we were at Lankamaa's end in a fast crest+bend combination. Citroens cut hard, drove straight and applied brake when approacing the bend so that they were able to stay straight around the corned. Both Fords drove sideways and were visibly slower. They did not apply brake but let the car go much more sideways. Impossible to say is it the car or driving style, setup etc. issue.

Funny accident during weekend: We were staying at friends cottage at Laukaa. Before our arrival (maybe wednesday or thursday) certain gentleman arrived to the cottage asking wheather he could park his boat to the shore and watch the rally with us by the cottage. The cottage is just by the stage. Only my friends sister was there then (does not watch rally) and she said that's not maybe a good idea as she does not own the cottage etc. etc....later we heard that this gentleman had been Juha Kankkunen. What a pity! :D

[Mirek]

On my way back home. 10 stages behind us. What's there to say, Citroen has again found something interesting as the are visibly less sideways than the Fords at least all stages we were at.

I heard Citroën uses very different differential settings to Ford but I don't know anything detailed. I think Mikko also said something like that after first DS3 tests.

I think it applies also for asphalt. From slow hairpins Citroëns exit straight with almost no powersliding.

[F1boat]

Loeb awesome again... best driver ever?

[N.O.T]

Loeb awesome again... best driver ever?

yes...by far.

[Mirek]

unbelievable 13th place of Nikara brothers (aged Evo9, tyre brand Y... beating the whole S2000 group in some stages)

I think that according to WRC regulations he could not use Yokohama tyres but only DMack or Michelin.

The tyres on the photo are without color logo which Yokohama ones have. Although the tread is very similar looking for both Michelin and Yokohama I would say it's Michelin what he was using...

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2012/wrc/fin/DSC_9666.jpg

[stefanvv]

I heard Citroën uses very different differential settings to Ford but I don't know anything detailed. I think Mikko also said something like that after first DS3 tests.

I think it applies also for asphalt. From slow hairpins Citroëns exit straight with almost no powersliding.

"smart" differentials? Is there electronics like ESP or something?

[Mirek]

No, it's purely mechanical and there's no centre diff at all.

[A FONDO]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmMnauT-ReE

[COD]

Is it just me, or was this a really short rally? Glancing through the stage lengths, with the exception of the last 2 stages, the average stage length seems to be about 12kms. That seems ridiculous to me. I know Loeb is against returning to longer, endurance type rallies (ie: the true nature and original intent of the sport), but these stages are so short, you might as well be racing round a circuit.

Yes, ridicolously short. The roads in finland are great, servicepark good. But to say it is the best WRC Rally the way it is organized now...

[vkangas]

All WRC rallies have their special charasteristics and there is no way Rally Finland should be an endurance event - there are better ones for that. Rally Finland has always been known as tight high speed event, "the gravel grand prix", not an endurance event. It's great that WRC series has a variety of different type of events.

[Franky]

All WRC rallies have their special charasteristics and there is no way Rally Finland should be an endurance event - there are better ones for that. Rally Finland has always been known as tight high speed event, "the gravel grand prix", not an endurance event. It's great that WRC series has a variety of different type of events.

I'd like to disagree. The rally is around 100km shorter than it used to be, and that's compared with 2003. I agree with what K. Sohlberg said on the radio that the rally needs to return to the old format of 3 days and have 50-70% of new stages because the current ones have been used for ten years. Different directions and different bits, but still the same roads.

[vkangas]

I think that according to WRC regulations he could not use Yokohama tyres but only DMack or Michelin.

The tyres on the photo are without color logo which Yokohama ones have. Although the tread is very similar looking for both Michelin and Yokohama I would say it's Michelin what he was using...


Interesting. He said before the rally that they are going to use Yokohama's in this (finnish) interview: MSN Auto (http://autotoday.fi/page.php?page_id=2&news_id=201206541)

But....MSN auto is about the most unreliable rally media in Finland :D

[A FONDO]

Breath-taking photos by ALM

- , 4 - - WRC - 2012 - - - (http://www.almrally.ru/foto/fotolist/?p=1&idgroup=37914)

[Co-FIN]

I think that according to WRC regulations he could not use Yokohama tyres but only DMack or Michelin.

The tyres on the photo are without color logo which Yokohama ones have. Although the tread is very similar looking for both Michelin and Yokohama I would say it's Michelin what he was using...



Jarkko did drove with yokohamas. As privateer the regulations are different.

[Mirek]

Jarkko did drove with yokohamas. As privateer the regulations are different.

Thanks. I opened the rules now and I can see they were changed since the time when control tyres were introduced. Now they are mandatory only for priority drivers.

... so the Yokohamas can't be bad, can they? :)

[Malozerow]

My pics of the rally/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/collections/72157630861195978/)
Including the flying Russian
Rallye de Finlande 2012-53.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/7705731702/)

[NikoP]

Only one day of NORF for me this year, gallery now online: nikop.kuvat.fi (http://nikop.kuvat.fi/#/kuvat/2012/Neste+Oil+Rally+Finland/)

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss40/ralli1/loeb.jpg

http://i559.photobucket.com/albums/ss40/ralli1/tanak.jpg

[Miika]

Novikov´s crash shot outside the car:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz2SVpfydN4

Only a matter of half a meter, said Evgeny.

[AMSS]

I heard Citroën uses very different differential settings to Ford but I don't know anything detailed. I think Mikko also said something like that after first DS3 tests.

I think it applies also for asphalt. From slow hairpins Citroëns exit straight with almost no powersliding.

Also J-M.L said that Citroen had homologated new gravel dampers for this rally, so something different than just shimming has been done..

[dimviii]

@ vkangas + AMSS
same i saw at Acropolis,Citroens more straight than Fords at all the stages i watch.Not at loose gravel,not overdriving,not wide where loose gravel-big stones-ditches appear.

About the ''better car'' plenty of people claim. There is no better car.Team has to adjust shocks-differentials,engine mapping at every rally.That Citroens have the proper setup at every rally,that isn t a ''better car''.It is a better setup of the car.
Better setup of the car is reponsibility of drivers and chief mechanics.If Latvala or Petter can t do it i conjuction with their mechanics,that is not making the ds3 better car,but them unable to setup the car.

[stefanvv]

They have some point I think. For first time this year I see Ford so slower than the Citroens, setup always plays significant role in the race, but Latvalla not to know how to do it in Finland... I doubt it.

[N.O.T]

I never really understood all this better car nonsense...

It is normal that someone will be better than someone else.. you rarely in any kind of competition have equality not only in motorsport...

It is in the hands of any driver to perform to a high standard in order to be picked up by the best and visa versa of course... if the team is crap it is not going to have many chances to sign a top driver.

I do not think that the difference between the cars right now is THAT big... Citroen have the edge of course but i think that results so far are because of the driving not the cars.

[kirungi okwogera]

Yes how else do you explain Nikara in an old group N mixing with (and beating) a bunch of S2000s? The setup and car do matter, but there is a part of the setup that can be changed every half second in the middle of the stage... the driver's brain.

[stefanvv]

Loeb: "The upgrades made this weekend to the DS3 WRC, especially on the shock absorbers, enabled us to move up another notch in terms of performance"

[AMSS]

@ vkangas + AMSS
same i saw at Acropolis,Citroens more straight than Fords at all the stages i watch.Not at loose gravel,not overdriving,not wide where loose gravel-big stones-ditches appear.

About the ''better car'' plenty of people claim. There is no better car.Team has to adjust shocks-differentials,engine mapping at every rally.That Citroens have the proper setup at every rally,that isn t a ''better car''.It is a better setup of the car.
Better setup of the car is reponsibility of drivers and chief mechanics.If Latvala or Petter can t do it i conjuction with their mechanics,that is not making the ds3 better car,but them unable to setup the car.

That`s partly true, the setup is a combination between driver feedback/feeling and engineers ideas. However if the engineers come with some new innovations that are a big improvement than it should be confirmed by the driver. Or do you think that Loeb or Latvala is planning new differential systems or such and than tells the engineer what to do??

Most likely they have come up with something new if they have used a yearly homologation for the dampers as you hardly use it if it`s not an improvement...

Anyhow Finland has never been a particulary good event for Latvala, the only win came when the clearly fastest driver on that event retired on the first day.
Also at all the years with Ford as a strong competitor in Finland it was Grönholm and Mikko who were basically responsible for the pre- event testing and basic setup!

[eib1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP3vc9z_JV0

[stefanvv]

Anyhow Finland has never been a particulary good event for Latvala, the only win came when the clearly fastest driver on that event retired on the first day.

So where was the world champion back then?

[dimviii]

That`s partly true, the setup is a combination between driver feedback/feeling and engineers ideas. However if the engineers come with some new innovations that are a big improvement than it should be confirmed by the driver. Or do you think that Loeb or Latvala is planning new differential systems or such and than tells the engineer what to do??
i didnt said that Loeb or Latvala planning new differential systems.I said that you have write at your first line.


Most likely they have come up with something new if they have used a yearly homologation for the dampers as you hardly use it if it`s not an improvement...



Ford isn t allowed to make improvements? ;)

By the way at ds3 they change the canister position,as is at Fords with reiger.They didnt invent a special rocket system.
Except that even with ''older'' suspension they were again faster.

[dimviii]

They have some point I think. For first time this year I see Ford so slower than the Citroens, setup always plays significant role in the race, but Latvalla not to know how to do it in Finland... I doubt it.

No for first time we saw battle till the end,so the difference was the proper.Proper difference we hadn t saw at previous rallies with the rally over at 1st day,or 2nd day due to Jaris stones,or Petters ''wrong setups''.

[Barreis]

JLM can not be first driver in the team, not good for team's boost.

[dimviii]

budget problems? :p
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/558010_10151171480068083_529123676_n.jpg

[stefanvv]

No for first time we saw battle till the end,so the difference was the proper.Proper difference we hadn t saw at previous rallies with the rally over at 1st day,or 2nd day due to Jaris stones,or Petters ''wrong setups''.

True, but while the previous Rallies the leadership has changed 1st day, here at the beginning it was obvious Citroen was the better prepared car.

[Psycho!]

True, but while the previous Rallies the leadership has changed 1st day, here at the beginning it was obvious Citroen was the better prepared car.

Basically it is like this every year in Finland...From the first stages you know who has the upper hand,unless the cars are close to equal...

[samzon]

some foto from NORF 2012


samzon.kuvat.fi (http://samzon.kuvat.fi/kuvat/neste-ralli+08.12/)

[tfp]

True, but while the previous Rallies the leadership has changed 1st day, here at the beginning it was obvious Citroen was the better prepared car.

:eek: World Rally Championship - Results - Rally Finland (http://www.wrc.com/results/2012/neste-oil-rally-finland/stage-winners/)

I believe this page backs up your statement, if you look at the teams section on the right of the page!

When you think about it, Citroen are manufacturer champions, they are first in the manufacturer table and ford are second, so Citroen 1-2 and Ford 3-4, kind of go-figure!

[N.O.T]

True, but while the previous Rallies the leadership has changed 1st day, here at the beginning it was obvious Citroen was the better prepared car.

I think it has to do with the nature of the event as well... in events where drivers care only about driving like finland and NZ for example and not avoiding stones and other problems you rarely see changes in the leaderboard because everyone gives their maximum from the start to finish and the fastest ones shine...

In events like acropolis for example where speed doesn't play an important role drivers tend to choose where to attack and where to be careful... so the places change a lot during the rally.

[Francis44]

I dont think there's much difference in the cars. I find it curious how last year Hirvonnen was by far the fastest after his crash while Loeb was still being pressured by Ogier, and with the Fiesta.
The biggest difference is in the drivers. You can clearly see in the interviews with Latvala that he dosen't really feel motivated anymore, he knows that the "young crazy fast finn" cliché does not work anymore.

[Malozerow]

Some memories from this week in "Suomi" :)

Czech can fly...
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8003/7705713646_15c10beb01_c.jpg

Russian too...
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8165/7705731702_89e41c64c2_c.jpg


My Pictures : Collection: Rallye de Finlande 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/collections/72157630861195978/)

[Malozerow]

my pictures of the rally : Collection: Rallye de Finlande 2012 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/7260939@N04/collections/72157630861195978/)

[Nuts]

Some photos from Koukunmaa, Leustu and Ouninopohja:

nutspix.com - rallikuvia (http://www.nutspix.com/?sivu=neste2012)

http://www.nutspix.com/2012/neste/neste1204t.jpg http://www.nutspix.com/2012/neste/neste1215t.jpg http://www.nutspix.com/2012/neste/neste1217t.jpg http://www.nutspix.com/2012/neste/neste1220t.jpg http://www.nutspix.com/2012/neste/neste1237t.jpg

[A FONDO]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iE5wreLDZk