Rally Sweden 2011

[Micke_VOC]

I know that there are long time to Rally Sweden but today the organizers published Rally Guide 1:

11 Different stages run two times.

Thursday:
SSS Karlstad

Friday:
Vargåsen
Likenäs
"New Stage" ( Start and Finish in Sweden but runs for the most in Norway)

Saturday:
Lesjöfors
Sågen
Fredriksberg
Värmullsåsen
SSS Karlstad

Sunday:
Rämmen
Malta
Hamra

Link: http://www.rallysweden.com/WordPress/wrc/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/rally-sweden-rally-guide-1-2011.pdf

[Salist]

I know that there are long time to Rally Sweden but today the organizers published Rally Guide 1:

11 Different stages run two times.

Thursday:
SSS Karlstad

Friday:
Vargåsen
Likenäs
"New Stage" ( Start and Finish in Sweden but runs for the most in Norway)

Saturday:
Lesjöfors
Sågen
Fredriksberg
Värmullsåsen
SSS Karlstad

Sunday:
Rämmen
Malta
Hamra

Link: http://www.rallysweden.com/WordPress/wrc/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/rally-sweden-rally-guide-1-2011.pdf

Thanks Micke.

[SunDanceRanch]

Hello all

We have our rally package ready for the Rally of Sweden 2011.
Book now your package for the first rally of the season with hopefully new and more teams.
We are in the middle of al the stages and just 15 kilometer from the service park.
Full =full
Look on our website now www.sundanceranch.eu (http://www.sundanceranch.eu)

Greetings Dimitry and Anita

[DonJippo]

Any snow yet in rally area :bounce: :hot:

[OldF]

Let’s see if any of the WRC teams will do a test rally at Arctic Lapland rally (27-29.1.2011).

[maxter]

Based around Karlstad again? No guaranteed snow in 2011 then.

(not as a decent surface anyway)

[Sulland]

Starting to get white: http://www.smhi.se/vadret/vadret-i-sverige/snodjup

[Sulland]

Will we get 14 cars in time for Sweden ?

http://www.wrc.com/news/four-citroen-ds3-wrcs-planned-for-sweden/?fid=13967

Very cold there days, and little snow - so a very good frost layer is building these days, but can of course go away again - long way still !!

[Brother John]

Hello all

We have our rally package ready for the Rally of Sweden 2011.
Book now your package for the first rally of the season with hopefully new and more teams.
We are in the middle of al the stages and just 15 kilometer from the service park.
Full =full
Look on our website now www.sundanceranch.eu (http://www.sundanceranch.eu)

Greetings Dimitry and Anita

We already booked, :D , Pino, J4MIE, PuddleJumper and Brother John.
(@ Dimitry en Anita, Groetjes uit Mönsterås, Brother John) :up:

[OldF]

Rally Sweden seeking for a three-year contract.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vf.se%2Fsport%2Fbilsport%2Fnobb ad-av-mini-%25E2%2580%2593-soker-lyckan-i-dubai

[Ghostwalker]

Rally Sweden seeking for a three-year contract.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vf.se%2Fsport%2Fbilsport%2Fnobb ad-av-mini-%25E2%2580%2593-soker-lyckan-i-dubai

wrong link OldF ;)

here's the correct:
http://www.vf.se/sport/bilsport/rallyt-hoppas-pa-trearsavtal

[Rallyper]

We already booked, :D , Pino, J4MIE, PuddleJumper and Brother John.
(@ Dimitry en Anita, Groetjes uit Mönsterås, Brother John) :up:

I´ve tried to book today. Let´s wait and see how it turns out. (only thursday to friday 4 people)

[OldF]

wrong link OldF ;)

here's the correct:
http://www.vf.se/sport/bilsport/rallyt-hoppas-pa-trearsavtal

Thanks for correcting my error. :)

Seems that it doesn’t work if "google" translate a web page and then jump to another news and then copy the link.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vf.se%2Fsport%2Fbilsport%2Frall yt-hoppas-pa-trearsavtal

[Brother John]

I´ve tried to book today. Let´s wait and see how it turns out. (only thursday to friday 4 people)

We are there from thursday up to Monday. ;)

[satnav]

Hello all

We have our rally package ready for the Rally of Sweden 2011.
Book now your package for the first rally of the season with hopefully new and more teams.
We are in the middle of al the stages and just 15 kilometer from the service park.
Full =full
Look on our website now www.sundanceranch.eu (http://www.sundanceranch.eu)

Greetings Dimitry and Anita

I see you have Full on your post , i take it that means as it says , no room at the inn !! or have you any cabins still available , i have sent you a mail anyway .
Regards
Chris

[Rallyper]

I´ve tried to book today. Let´s wait and see how it turns out. (only thursday to friday 4 people)

It turned out they wanted to book me upp for four days, not one single night as I wanted. Money, money. No ranch visit for me! Ever!! :mad:

Have to look for private rooms instead. Would have been nice to meet you guys there even for one night. :beer:

[WRXedUSA]

I see you have Full on your post , i take it that means as it says , no room at the inn !! or have you any cabins still available , i have sent you a mail anyway .
Regards
Chris

Chris,

Eksharad is a very central place to stay for the rally. Close as you are going to the stages, especially this year. And, you wont have to deal with much traffic congestion SOUTH of the general Hagfors area.

If this place is full, ask the Hagfors Tourist Buearu to hook you up in the general area.

[Brother John]

Have to look for private rooms instead. Would have been nice to meet you guys there even for one night. :beer:

Yes you can come att the restaurant and have a beer, food only before 08. PM. :s mokin:

[Tom206wrc]

Already a thread for Sweden :confused:


So then...what about the expected entrylist :p :

[Iskald]

Already a thread for Sweden :confused:


So then...what about the expected entrylist :p :

Oh yes, thread was started nearly a half year before the rally, must be some sort of record. Don Jippo asked about snow 3rd of october (!), I hope he was trying to be ironic/funny...

So Tom, if you want to start a thread about Swedish Rally 2012 you better hurry up ;-)

[AndyRAC]

I know that there are long time to Rally Sweden but today the organizers published Rally Guide 1:

11 Different stages run two times.

Thursday:
SSS Karlstad

Friday:
Vargåsen
Likenäs
"New Stage" ( Start and Finish in Sweden but runs for the most in Norway)

Saturday:
Lesjöfors
Sågen
Fredriksberg
Värmullsåsen
SSS Karlstad

Sunday:
Rämmen
Malta
Hamra

Link: http://www.rallysweden.com/WordPress/wrc/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/rally-sweden-rally-guide-1-2011.pdf

It's not a very imaginative route, is it? (Apart from dropping in briefly into Norway). Eleven stages, all repeated. Seems like most organisers are staying with the same itineraries.
Thank goodness for Finland, for trying something different.

[Rallyper]

Problem is the organiser want to stay HQ in KArlstad. If they move HQ to better place for instance Falun, ther would be new stages in Dalarna that could be used.

Now there´s no innovation in stages for RS.

[Hartusvuori]

Thank goodness for Finland, for trying something different.

Don't cheer out loud just yet. Even if there are plans that most likely hold to take the rally away from Jyväskylä on Friday, Thursday and Saturday stages should be more than familiar. We'll know when the RG1 is out.

[bluuford]

Well, there is not too much snow near the stages right now but a huge snowstorm should hit Sweden and Norway on Thursday, early in the morning, very early. If you still lack any snow after that storm then we can send some from Tallinn.. there is over 4 meter high snow-hill right in front of my house, you can take it for free :-P

[hari]

The supplementary regulations have been published on the website: http://www.rallysweden.com/competitors/documents?lang=en

The itinerary on Sunday changed a bit in comparison to Rally Guide 1.

Sunday:
Torntorp 1 19,21 km
Gustavsfors 1 4,16 km
Rämmen 1 22,76 km
Torntorp 2 19,21 km
Rämmen 2 22,76 km
Gustavsfors 2 (Power Stage) 4,16 km

[Juha_Koo]

Really, isn't there good roads in Sweden or what's with the 11 stages repeated scheme every year? The best modern-era WRC snow rallies have been driven in Norway...

2007 Rally Norway had 18 stages, eight of which were only driven once and only five repeated. WRC should really start to limit the amount of repeated stages, for real.

[General Prim]

Really, isn't there good roads in Sweden or what's with the 11 stages repeated scheme every year? The best modern-era WRC snow rallies have been driven in Norway...

2007 Rally Norway had 18 stages, eight of which were only driven once and only five repeated. WRC should really start to limit the amount of repeated stages, for real.

+1

[Iskald]

Really, isn't there good roads in Sweden or what's with the 11 stages repeated scheme every year? The best modern-era WRC snow rallies have been driven in Norway...

2007 Rally Norway had 18 stages, eight of which were only driven once and only five repeated. WRC should really start to limit the amount of repeated stages, for real.

I think the reason is economy. The Värmland region has lots of forest roads, but not all of them are in regular use during winter time. For some of the classic stage roads the organiser knows and has been in cooperation with the owners for many year. some big forest companies sponsors the rally with free road use and also road preparation (snow ploughing etc.).

I do agree with you that it ends up boring with the same stages from year to year. For 2011 FIA actually wanted Rally Sweden to incorporate a full day with stages in the Finnskogen area in Norway. Its a pity they didn`t want that, as the Finnskog roads are fantastic and of a different caracter (more technical) than the stages in Sweden. With remote service at the little community of Svulrya they could have a stage distance of some 150 kms with very little road sections. Instead they chose to run only part of a stage in Norway.

Btw the "Norway stage" has been a classic in the Rally Finnskog (ERC and NRC) for many years. The stage is called Løvhaugen and has a fantastic spectator area when the cars are passing the farm Løvhaugen. There is also a straight with a famous double jump before a junction. Yours truly knows the stage quite well ;-) Codriving Tord Linnerud in a Corolla WRC we managed a stage record in 2005...

[Rallyper]

Gustavsfors, though relatively short, is new stage. Also power-stage. Will be interesting to see.

It´s said to be quite narrow and demanding with a lot of bends.

But I agree. RS should need a variation in stages.

[bryst]

Last visited Sweden for the 2006 wrc rally and would like to come again,can anyone recommend the best area to stay for easy access to the stages. Last time we stayed in Hallefors but it was a bit out of the way and very quite,there wasn't even a resturant there.

[cvhi]

Goransson (Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 10)
Besson(Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 10)
Thelaus (Ford Fiesta ST)

[fastboy]

Loriaux has said there aim is to get 10 cars ready for Sweden,so i think the 10 drivers are :Hirvonen,Latvala,Al Qassimi ,H.Solberg,Wilson,Block,Raikkonen,Ostberg,Kuipers, Villagra.

[PLuto]

I think in Sweden will be maximum 5-6 Fiesta WRC...

[PLuto]

Plus 4 DS3 WRC. So I expect maximum of 10 WRC cars on start line.

[StevieWonder]

I think in Sweden will be maximum 5-6 Fiesta WRC...


my guess: 9fiesta and 4-5ds3 WRC

you will see !

[AlfaWRC]

my guess: 9fiesta and 4-5ds3 WRC

you will see !

Stevie, dei fußzeile is nimma goanz aktuell :-)

[WRXedUSA]

Can anyone explain to me what is meant by a "power stage"?

Is this a new concept or something?

[rp]

Can anyone explain to me what is meant by a "power stage"?

Is this a new concept or something?

Yes in a way, but same concept was tried already during the season 1999 in Corsica and Finland.

Power Stage (one SS in every rally) will award bonus points to drivers (fastest driver will get three, 2nd two and 3rd one point) and, as often as possible, be shown live on television.

[Salist]

Live Power Stage changes day three:
http://www.rallysweden.com/live-power-stage-changes-day-three?lang=en

[Salist]

47 days to Rally Sweden yet. It's too much! :)

[cvhi]

there is no provisional entry list ?

[bluuford]

there is no provisional entry list ?
Ok, lets make our own list:

WRC (confirmed):
1. S.Loeb DS3 WRC
2. S. Ogier DS3 WRC
3. P. Merksteijn DS3 WRC
4. J.M.Latvala Fiesta WRC
5. M.Hirvonen Fiesta WRC
6. M.Ostberg Fiesta WRC
7. D.Kuipers Fiesta WRC
8. K.Block Fiesta WRC

Not confirmed but very likely:
9. K.Räikkönen DS3 WRC
10. P.Solberg DS3 WRC????
11. H.Solberg Fiesta WRC???

Possibily more:
12. F.Villagra Fiesta WRC????
13. K.A.Qassimi Fiesta WRC???


PWRC:
No news...

Other:
1. M.Kangur Honda Civic Type-R

Not confrimed:
2. M.Prokop Fiesta S2000??????

[FabiaFan]

Ok, lets make our own list:
??????

Forgot about Wilson?!? How could you...???

[FabiaFan]

Ok, lets make our own list:

Not confrimed:
2. M.Prokop Fiesta S2000

Prokop IS confirmed!!

[Salist]

Not comfirmed yet, only rumours:

P. Sandell - Skoda Fabia S2000 ???
E. Brynildsen - Skoda Fabia S2000 ???
J. Hanninen - Skoda Fabia S2000
A. Mikkelsen - Skoda Fabia S2000
B. Sousa - Ford Fiesta S2000
J. Tuohino - Ford Fiesta S2000 ???
N. Al-Attiyah - ???
R. Kresta - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX ???
A. Araujo - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO X ???

[FabiaFan]

We can assume that a bunch of (almost)locals in lower classes won´t miss this event:
- Flodin - Impreza STI - almost for sure
- Andersson - Fabia?
- Hanninen - Fabia
- Mikkelsen - Fabia
- Brynildsen - Fabia
- Sandell - Fabia?
(- Alen - ?)
(- and what about Ekström - long time no see...)

...I´m quite sure we will se 3/4 of them!

Did I miss somebody...??

[FabiaFan]

Not comfirmed yet, only rumours:



Hey, (almost)same thoughts at the same time!!!

[Mirek]

It looks like just a wish list. Not very realistic to tell my opinion.

[Francis44]

Sousa is pretty likely to be there, Armindo won't be with Ralliart Italia next year if things go according to plan.

[Salist]

It looks like just a wish list. Not very realistic to tell my opinion.

I hope it is not only a wish list. :) According to the Rally Guide 1, the closing date of entries 11. January.

[bluuford]

Not comfirmed yet, only rumours:

P. Sandell - Skoda Fabia S2000 ???
E. Brynildsen - Skoda Fabia S2000 ???
J. Hanninen - Skoda Fabia S2000
A. Mikkelsen - Skoda Fabia S2000
B. Sousa - Ford Fiesta S2000
J. Tuohino - Ford Fiesta S2000 ???
N. Al-Attiyah - ???
R. Kresta - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX ???
A. Araujo - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO X ???

Well, I would say that Tuohino is quite possible. He is registered to Finnish Rally Championship for 2011 with Fiesta and he promised to do a few WRC events as well. Why not to do his closest and favorite event?
Araujo might test new R4 Evo X ...
..
and lets say that Brynildsen and Sandell might surprise as well.
Hänninen´s season starts in Monte and next event might be Mexico, so not so sure about it (car from Sweden to Mexico in 2 weeks, spare car.. same story about other SWRC entrants)?

[Juha_Koo]

Well, I would say that Tuohino is quite possible. He is registered to Finnish Rally Championship for 2011 with Fiesta and he promised to do a few WRC events as well. Why not to do his closest and favorite event?

Well, I don't think that he'll go with S2000 Fiesta, because he has talked about driving some selected rounds with WRC car in 2011.

In 2010 he experienced quite a lot of mechanical failures and has now outsourced the car maintanence to a well-known professional rally/racing company Printsport Racing.



Hänninen´s season starts in Monte and next event might be Mexico, so not so sure about it (car from Sweden to Mexico in 2 weeks, spare car.. same story about other SWRC entrants)?

But wont't he start in Monte with Skoda factory team's car and then again in SWRC with BRR Skoda? Or is the BRR/RedBull deal also used in Hänninen's possible IRC outings?

[FabiaFan]

But wont't he start in Monte with Skoda factory team's car and then again in SWRC with BRR Skoda? Or is the BRR/RedBull deal also used in Hänninen's possible IRC outings? Yes, the former is more likely... Hanninenś (or Gassner&#347 ;) SWRC car is beginning january even on the way at the Jänner rally... His IRC car ought to be a different one... And by the way... he could easily have a third one just for Sweden...

[Hallman]

entry list-> http://www.rallysweden.com/the-rally-2011/entries?lang=en

[cvhi]

Just 4 entries for the moment

[VFTS]

Not comfirmed yet, only rumours:

P. Sandell - Skoda Fabia S2000 ???
E. Brynildsen - Skoda Fabia S2000 ???
J. Hanninen - Skoda Fabia S2000
A. Mikkelsen - Skoda Fabia S2000
B. Sousa - Ford Fiesta S2000
J. Tuohino - Ford Fiesta S2000 ???
N. Al-Attiyah - ???
R. Kresta - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX ???
A. Araujo - Mitsubishi Lancer EVO X ???


Mikkelsen will not start in Sweden

[bluuford]

Yes, the former is more likely... Hanninenś (or Gassner&#347 ;) SWRC car is beginning january even on the way at the Jänner rally... His IRC car ought to be a different one... And by the way... he could easily have a third one just for Sweden...

Hänninen won a billion in lottery? Three cars? Even big factory teams have only one spare car for oversea events. Hänninen will not start in Sweden. How-ever, seems that there will be loads and loads of Fiestas (WRC-s and S2000 cars)

[Mirek]

Yes, he won't start in Sweden and will start in Mexico.

[Rallyper]

Yes, he won't start in Sweden and will start in Mexico.

Why wouldn´t one of the best finnish drivers want to challenge the swedes on their homeground in one of the best winterrallies (and fastest)? :confused:

Is he chicken?

[VFTS]

Why wouldn´t one of the best finnish drivers want to challenge the swedes on their homeground in one of the best winterrallies (and fastest)? :confused:

Is he chicken?

Because it will not be any top SWRC-drivers or any other top-s2000 cars in Sweden.

The SWRC-championship start in Mexico

[Mirek]

Why wouldn´t one of the best finnish drivers want to challenge the swedes on their homeground in one of the best winterrallies (and fastest)? :confused:

Is he chicken?

World unfortunately doesn't work the way that You can do whatever You want.

[cvhi]

WRC

DRIVER
CO-DRIVER
NAT
CAR
CL
BESSONJean PascalROISSACPatriceFRA/FRAMitsubishiLancer Evo X
BOLANDEamonnMORRISSEYM.JIRL/IRLMitsubishiLancer Evo X3BREENCraigROBERTSGarethIRL/GBFordFiesta S20002KUIPERSRenéHULZEBOSAnnemiekeNL/NLFordFiesta S20003
RALLY SM (National class)

DRIVER
CO-DRIVER
NAT
CAR
CL
ThelausAndreasTBATBAS/FordFiesta ST
KarlssonTorbjörnEnvangGunnarS/SRenaultClio SportOlssonJonasJönssonMikaelS/SFordFiesta STBrinkemarJonasCederlundCamilleS/SFordFiesta STErikssonAntonHjerpeJimS/SFordFiesta STLarssonChristerAdolfssonJanS/SCitroënXsaraOhlsonCemoniLönnmarkGöranS/SMitsubishiLancer Evo XThorszeliusMatsThorszeliusTomasS/SMitsubishiLancer Evo IXJonassonAndersLindahlJörgenS/SMitsubishiLancer Evo IXThunströmThomasEdvardssonNicklasS/SSubaruImpreza WRX STiBækkevoldBjørnBroløkkenFrodeN/NMitsubishiLancer Evo VJirveliusMattiasGustavssonLill-ErikS/SToyotaCorollaBerglundMartinOlssonHenrikS/SVWGolfWalfridsonJimmieBarthPatrikS/SVolvo242OlssonLennartProosMagnusS/SMitsubishiLancer Evo IVBorgJoachimLindbergChristianS/SFordEscort

[Rallyper]

Because it will not be any top SWRC-drivers or any other top-s2000 cars in Sweden.

The SWRC-championship start in Mexico

Of course. My mistake. :o

[cvhi]

Besson-Roissac(Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 10)
Boland-Morrissey(Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 10)
Villanueva-Tramont(Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 10)
Goransson-Carlsson(Mitsubishi Lancer Evo 10)
Breen-Roberts(Ford Fiesta S 2000)
Kuipers-Hulzebos(Ford Fiesta S 2000)

6 Entries for the moment

[FabiaFan]

Because it will not be any top SWRC-drivers or any other top-s2000 cars in Sweden.

The SWRC-championship start in Mexico

There will be for sure both top-s2000 cars in Sweden, namely Fabia S2000 and Fiesta S2000...

[FabiaFan]

Because it will not be any top SWRC-drivers or any other top-s2000 cars in Sweden.

The SWRC-championship start in Mexico

Do you not rank Martin Prokop among "top S-WRC drivers" (3rd in the championship this year)? And there will be for sure more of them, especially from SWE, NOR or FIN and maybe EST.

[Micke_VOC]

Entrylist of National Swedish championship drivers:
Approved from the organizers:
http://www.resultatdata.com/rally/anmalan/listor/lista.jsp?tavling=456&urval=granskaddeltar&sortering=tavlingsklasslicensklassinkom&rubrik=Anm%E4lningslista&min=1&max=2&rubrik2=Anm%E4lningslistor
On the list to be approved: http://www.resultatdata.com/rally/anmalan/listor/lista.jsp?tavling=456&urval=ejgranskaddeltar&sortering=tavlingsklasslicensklassinkom&rubrik=Ej%20kontrollerade&min=1&max=2&rubrik2=Anm%E4lningslistor

[Micke_VOC]

And a weather report: Between 15-25 cm of snow last week and have been cold a couple of months now, always below zero. So not so much ice yet.

Today its snowing heavy in my hometown, around 60km south of stage Vargåsen.

[cvhi]

Hello,

you dont have news about entry list WRC ?

[ProRally]

Just confirmed everything for WRC Sweden, will be there...

[FabiaFan]

Entrylist of National Swedish championship drivers...


On the wrc list just 7 names (S2000 Fiestas and Lancers) and no new entry since 5 days or so... :-( How comes...?

[EavesFan09]

On the wrc list just 7 names (S2000 Fiestas and Lancers) and no new entry since 5 days or so... :-( How comes...?

There is the 23 in the Rally SM (National Class) also. Interestingly we have cars like the Citroen Xara, VW Golf, Toyoya Corolla and Volvo 242 competing.

Who said the WRC didn't have a wide variety of cars?? :D

[Mirek]

Who said the WRC didn't have a wide variety of cars?? :D

Because it's not WRC event. It's national event which shares several stages with WRC event. It's run in same weekend but it has separate competitive field and classification, also much shorter route.

[Micke_VOC]

Sandell confirmed with a Red Bull Skoda in Rally Sweden.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http://www.patriksandell.com/swedish/6621.nyhetsarkiv.html%3Fvisainlagg%3D2937

[Salist]

Thanks Micke, it's a great news!

[pantealex]

http://www.rallysweden.com/the-rally-2011/entries?lang=en

Some new entries, like Loeb and Ogier

[Micke_VOC]

Weather report 7 January:
City of Sunne: (Close to Vargåsen Stage )
around 50cm snow and minus 10 degree
Have been close to zero today and tomorrow the weather forecast says rain and +2 degree, then cold again after the weekend.

That is perfect for the stages, because now its packed snow and when its raining there gonna be a lot of ice.

[x12]

Any body with info on the rally sm seemed to be alot of rwd drive cars in it .I wouldn mind catching a stage of it.where can u get stage times and do they use same stages for the 3 days or only 1 day?

[Walach]

According to AutoSport.CZ will start Pavel Valousek on Swedish Rally with Skoda Fabia S2000.

[EavesFan09]

Sandell confirmed with a Red Bull Skoda in Rally Sweden.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http://www.patriksandell.com/swedish/6621.nyhetsarkiv.html%3Fvisainlagg%3D2937

What happened to Juho Hanninen? I thought Sandell was actually replaced by Juho Hanninen

http://www.wrc.com/news/hanninen-and-gassner-for-red-bull-skoda-team/?fid=14018

[Mirek]

Nothing happened to Juho. Sweden is not a round of SWRC, so Juho is not going to start there.

[Viking]

Any body with info on the rally sm seemed to be alot of rwd drive cars in it .I wouldn mind catching a stage of it.where can u get stage times and do they use same stages for the 3 days or only 1 day?


Here you go

http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/Supplementary-Regulations-2011-Appendix-7-English.pdf

[Viking]

Any body with info on the rally sm seemed to be alot of rwd drive cars in it .I wouldn mind catching a stage of it.where can u get stage times and do they use same stages for the 3 days or only 1 day?


Here you go

http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/Supplementary-Regulations-2011-Appendix-7-English.pdf

Friday
Vargåsen 1
Likenäs 1
Løvhaugen 1

Saturday
Lesjöfors 1
Sågen 1
Fredriksberg 1
Värmullsåsen 1
SSS Karlstad 2

[x12]

Here you go

http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/Supplementary-Regulations-2011-Appendix-7-English.pdf

Friday
Vargåsen 1
Likenäs 1
Løvhaugen 1

Saturday
Lesjöfors 1
Sågen 1
Fredriksberg 1
Värmullsåsen 1
SSS Karlstad 2

thanks

[FabiaFan]

What happened to Juho Hanninen? I thought Sandell was actually replaced by Juho Hanninen


I think RED BULL and Skoda wanted to have ONE car running in Sweden - they might have choosen Sandell for several reasons: logistical, because of the previous contracts, because he is Swedish, because Ekstrom isn't ready and Andersson not free, because he is bringing up some additional sponsors money,...

[EavesFan09]

I think RED BULL and Skoda wanted to have ONE car running in Sweden - they might have choosen Sandell for several reasons: logistical, because of the previous contracts, because he is Swedish, because Ekstrom isn't ready and Andersson not free, because he is bringing up some additional sponsors money,...

Until the words "Red Bull" and "Skoda" I was with you. But from them on it was total darkness for me. :D

Unless you have had your face glued to a PC permenantly stuck on the internet for the last few weeks there is no way it is possible to know squat of what you've just said. All I knew is that Gassner and Hanninen with now possibly Sandell will do Mexico.

[FabiaFan]

Until the words "Red Bull" and "Skoda" I was with you. But from them on it was total darkness for me. :D

Unless you have had your face glued to a PC permenantly stuck on the internet for the last few weeks there is no way it is possible to know squat of what you've just said. All I knew is that Gassner and Hanninen with now possibly Sandell will do Mexico. No, Sandell will definitely not be in Mexico, nor will he do the other rounds of SWRC (at least there is no evidence of) - I believe you're lost somewhere...

[EavesFan09]

No, Sandell will definitely not be in Mexico, nor will he do the other rounds of SWRC (at least there is no evidence of) - I believe you're lost somewhere...

Yeah. Up a certain creek without a paddle.

I am afraid you might as well have been talking to a cheese pastie. This is a prime example in practice of the most obvious problem with a lot of people being oblivious to articles which never make it to certain official and unnoficial WRC websites until it makes it to forums and message boards.

When you have both vying for the interest of the naive beginner, and when both are seen by them as highly credible, just how possible is it for these people to be easily confused when they hear one thing from one source but not the other?

The main wrc.com website just reported to me that Patrick was going to make way for Hanninen and Gassner. I am afraid to say it said little if anything about Patrick still being in the team until the end of Sweden and why it is he remains with them till the end.

Is it clear anywhere as to which rounds Gassner and Hanninen will be doing other than Mexico? Amd what of Bernado Sousa who are the other confirmed SWRC drivers? I know now about Ott Tanak.

[RICARDO75]

No, Sandell will definitely not be in Mexico, nor will he do the other rounds of SWRC (at least there is no evidence of) - I believe you're lost somewhere...

Sandell is trying to get budget to do SWRC

[FabiaFan]

Sandell is trying to get budget to do SWRC
Yes, like 20, 30 or 40 others... The problem is, it wouldn't be that easy... Unless Red Bull creates another team for SWRC, let's call it Torro Rosso :-D maybe with another car supplier... ;-) To have or not to have RB as a sponsor makes a difference...
Or is there any evidence he DID already find another sponsor or is at least speaking with some?

[SunDanceRanch]

Does anyone know if Mini starts also in Sweden?

http://scudas.com/new-driver-dani-sordo-announce-mini-wrc-team/

The weather here snowing the last 3 days and tommorow +2 so maybe there will be ice next month.
Greetings from Ekshärad

[RICARDO75]

Yes, like 20, 30 or 40 others... The problem is, it wouldn't be that easy... Unless Red Bull creates another team for SWRC, let's call it Torro Rosso :-D maybe with another car supplier... ;-) To have or not to have RB as a sponsor makes a difference...
Or is there any evidence he DID already find another sponsor or is at least speaking with some?

Patrik Sandell: "Swedish Rally is clear and we are negotiating right now for the rest of the season."

[RICARDO75]

Does anyone know if Mini starts also in Sweden?

http://scudas.com/new-driver-dani-sordo-announce-mini-wrc-team/

The weather here snowing the last 3 days and tommorow +2 so maybe there will be ice next month.
Greetings from Ekshärad

No.
Daniel Oliveira and perhaps, Armindo Araújo, will run the Mini S2000 1.6T for the first time in Portugal and the wrc version just on Italy with Meeke and Sordo.

[ProRally]

Does anyone know if Mini starts also in Sweden?

http://scudas.com/new-driver-dani-sordo-announce-mini-wrc-team/

The weather here snowing the last 3 days and tommorow +2 so maybe there will be ice next month.
Greetings from Ekshärad

Car will only be homologated 1st of March.... so no Sweden for sure :D

[cali]

I read somewhere that Sordo is trying to participate in Sweden with Gr.N car

[EavesFan09]

No.
Daniel Oliveira and perhaps, Armindo Araújo, will run the Mini S2000 1.6T for the first time in Portugal and the wrc version just on Italy with Meeke and Sordo.

So, will this mean Oliviera/Maghales be switching from rallying with Brazil World Rally Team to the official works team with Meeke/Nagle and Sordo/Vallejo?

I thought that MINI and Brazil World Rally Team both ran the MINI Countryman WRC anyway.

Does anyone know the plans of Xavier Pons?

[RICARDO75]

So, will this mean Oliviera/Maghales be switching from rallying with Brazil World Rally Team to the official works team with Meeke/Nagle and Sordo/Vallejo?

I thought that MINI and Brazil World Rally Team both ran the MINI Countryman WRC anyway.

Does anyone know the plans of Xavier Pons?

The official works team is only with Sordo and Meeke.
Oliveira will start first with the Mini S2000 1.6T and then later, he will switch to a wrc version but as private.

Xavier Pons will do the spanish championship with Fiesta S2000

[Sulland]

Car will only be homologated 1st of March.... so no Sweden for sure :D

And the SP and WRC models will be homologated at the same time, not the SP first and then the WRC ?

[FabiaFan]

And the SP and WRC models will be homologated at the same time, not the SP first and then the WRC ? Yes, should be done in this way, SP before Portugal and WRC before Sardegna... However Prodrive says that hey are even ahead of this schedule... what on the other hand should not change their plans for entering in the WRC...

[Mirek]

And the SP and WRC models will be homologated at the same time, not the SP first and then the WRC ?

There is only one homologation for both. It's SAME car with additional WRC kit homologated as option.

[EavesFan09]

The official works team is only with Sordo and Meeke.
Oliveira will start first with the Mini S2000 1.6T and then later, he will switch to a wrc version but as private.

I appear to have mistakenly thought though at the end of last year an announcement was made for all the cars ran in the main championship were to go to the S2000 regs.

So in effect the Fiestas in the SWRC ran by MM Motorsport and Team Ford/Quinta Do Lorde will be the same as those ran by BP Ford Abu Dhabi, Adapta, Monster WRT, Munchi's and Ipatec. I know those in the main championship go by the Ford Fiesta RS, and I think those in the IRC are the R2's, but the technical spec of both is that of the S2000.

What is the primary difference between the MINI S2000 and the MINI WRC? Or as Mirek said cars ending in S2000 and cars ending in WRC just differ in some smaller way like a different aero package?

[Hartusvuori]

I read somewhere that Sordo is trying to participate in Sweden with Gr.N car

I was just going to ask about this. It's mentioned in this (http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2011/01/1252887) article at MTV3's site.

Gr. N car = S2000?

In the interview he also says that it wouldn't have been difficult for him to gather budget to buy a seat at Ford, but "he prefered a team that values him more as a driver than a buyer".

Also mentiones that development work for DS3 WRC has been going on for a year and a half.

[SunDanceRanch]

Last info off the weather we had last nigt alot of rain and today wetsnow so the snow is changing in ice so that will be great for the rally cars.

Greetings Dimitry

[FabiaFan]

Gr. N car = S2000?


Not anymore. Lancer x Impreza (To put S2000 under "N" was a total FIA-nonsense from the very beginning)

[6789]

I read somewhere that Sordo is trying to participate in Sweden with Gr.N car

Translated to English, so difficult to read.

Mini needs more more and suspension work. Group N car for Sweden would be from own backing.

http://bit.ly/h6KPmC

[MJW]

I see 4 Ford Fiesta WRC's now on entry list, Latvala, Hirvonen, Block and Kuipers. Awaiting Mathew and Henning? also no sign (yet) of Kimi, Van Merjkstein and Petter. Does anyone know what time today entries close, mid day or end of the business day, e.g 17:00 or whenever.

[Sulland]

I see 4 Ford Fiesta WRC's now on entry list, Latvala, Hirvonen, Block and Kuipers. Awaiting Mathew and Henning? also no sign (yet) of Kimi, Van Merjkstein and Petter. Does anyone know what time today entries close, mid day or end of the business day, e.g 17:00 or whenever.

According to this one it is 1500 local.
http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/Entry-Form-2011.pdf

[PLuto]

Also Pavel Valousek has sent entry form, but his start isnt sure yet.

[cvhi]

Just 26 Entries WRC and 47 Entries SM National, its not wonderful, its crisis ?

[bluuford]

Just 26 Entries WRC and 47 Entries SM National, its not wonderful, its crisis ?

Do not worry, it is not final yet. There will be quite many more entries.

[Bobcat]

I see 4 Ford Fiesta WRC's now on entry list, Latvala, Hirvonen, Block and Kuipers. Awaiting Mathew and Henning? also no sign (yet) of Kimi, Van Merjkstein and Petter. Does anyone know what time today entries close, mid day or end of the business day, e.g 17:00 or whenever.
8 Fiesta RS WRCs now!

[AP-Racing]

Kimi starts in Sweden

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2011/01/1253616

[PLuto]

Article about Valousek's start - http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11563

http://www.autosport.cz/img/clanky/3596a23d2e08501441da3c934a579d5e.jpg

[Brother John]

Kimi starts in Sweden

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2011/01/1253616


And good-bye for Petter Solberg in WRC? :?:

[NiekJ]

And good-bye for Petter Solberg in WRC? :?:

The very same article says this translated with google:

The 2003 world champion Petter Solberg has instead been enrolled in the competition.

It seems that he does not have a car, Toner said.

Does this mean he submitted an entry form, but no car yet?

[alleskids]

Mathew Wilson and Henning Solberg are on the entrylist, together with Ostberg, Kuipers, Latvalla and Hirvonen for Ford. Citroen only has Loeb, Ogier and Raikkonen. Stil no Van Merksteijn :(

[Hartusvuori]

Kimi starts in Sweden

http://www.mtv3.fi/urheilu/ralli/uutiset.shtml/arkistot/ralli/2011/01/1253616

Kimi is planning 10 rallies for the moment, more if he gets the budget - which sounds really stupid when it comes out of the keyboard.

[Sulland]

. Still no Van Merksteijn :(

I guess he is not a big snowman :o

[Tomi]

Mathew Wilson and Henning Solberg are on the entrylist, together with Ostberg, Kuipers, Latvalla and Hirvonen for Ford. Citroen only has Loeb, Ogier and Raikkonen. Stil no Van Merksteijn :(

MTV3 says Van Merksteijn starts later in season, they say Citroen has only 3 cars ready for Loeb, Ogier, Kimi.

[wwbroe]

I am still convinced Petter will be in Swedish Rally with Citroën, don't worry yet. :)

[alleskids]

Van Merkstiejn was the first custumor/client with a budget for the DS3 WRC, but he has to waith for bigger profile drivers who come in on the last moment?

[alleskids]

Kimi is planning 10 rallies for the moment, more if he gets the budget - which sounds really stupid when it comes out of the keyboard.



Is it iknow who are the 2011 sponsors for Kimi? Is it Red Bull again after all? Kuipers is paying his rally program from his own companies. Rene Kuipers owns Ipatec and he owns Ferm Power Tools, via an investment company.

[eppel]

Petter is ready according to nwt.se and Bertil Klarin. P-G is on hold, looking for a car. http://www.nwt.se/sport/motorsport/article832323.ece

[ProRally]

Confirmed Petter doing Sweden .....

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88853

[Vargåsen]

http://bit.ly/gm7mws

Richard Tuthill in a Porsche is a nice surprise as well.

[Mirek]

Modern Porsche on snow? That's crazy. No snow competition tyres for this car exist. He would have to drive on stock wide winter tyres :D

[CWJ]

Porsche makes absolutely no sence for Sweden so i guess he wont start.

[vkangas]

If it's the same Porsche than in this video... well not too modern. :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaYzkqyzmTw

[SubaruNorway]

I think Richard Tuthill drives a classic Porsche? http://farm1.static.flickr.com/170/418718110_ed548827c8.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLHefuScKHQ

He doesn't look like a complete novice and the old car shouldn't be a problem in winter.

[fastboy]

Anybody know what car P-G Anderson is trying to secure a budget for?

[FabiaFan]

Anybody know what car P-G Anderson is trying to secure a budget for?
I think it depends also on the progress in his Proton - allseason - IRC deal... I doubt they would let him start with anything else in this case... If he's not in this race anymore, I believe in a Fabia.

[Mirek]

Is Per Arne Sääv doing only national event?

[peg306]

Is Per Arne Sääv doing only national event?
Yes.

[ste898]

looks like stobarts are in according too WRC.COM

[Mirek]

Yes.

Thanks

[ste898]

Stobarts have said no for 2011 camaign now so no Stobart cars

[Micke_VOC]

PG did a late entry today.
He need 50 000 EUR more to drive a Fiesta WRC for M-sport.. and he have a week to get the budget..

[jbmarcus21]

Google Earth Map Rally Sweden is out http://bit.ly/fF6uRM

[OldF]

PGA is on the entry list with a WRC. :eek:

[N.O.T]

Stobarts have said no for 2011 camaign now so no Stobart cars

this means no wilson jr?

[PLuto]

For sure Wilson will be there. Dont forgot, he must win WRC championship :)

[nr7wave]

this means no wilson jr?

The team is renamed, so no more sleepless nights for N.O.T. Wilson jr. is still in the game :) He's team mates with Mads Østberg and Henning Solberg. http://www.wrc.com/news/revamp-for-m-sports-wrc-team-entry/?fid=14026

[Sulland]

A lot of history: http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/Rally-Sweden-Rally-Guide-2-2011-Appendix-6-History-Statistics.pdf

[ste898]

I do not know why it is called M-Sport Stobart world rally team on WRC.COM as stobarts wont be involved at all.
WRC.COM need to get the correct facts./.....

[RICARDO75]

I do not know why it is called M-Sport Stobart world rally team on WRC.COM as stovarts wont be involved at all.
WRC.COM need to get the correct facts./.....

http://www.m-sport.co.uk/index.php/news/507-ostberg-to-join-m-sport-stobart-ford-world-rally-team-for-2011

[Rallyper]

In sweden there´s a fund raising to get the 50 000 Euros for PG. Everyone can contribute.

www.pgandersson.se (http://www.pgandersson.se)

Information only in swedish at the moment.

[MJW]

In sweden there´s a fund raising to get the 50 000 Euros for PG. Everyone can contribute.

www.pgandersson.se (http://www.pgandersson.se)

Information only in swedish at the moment.
I notice PG is listed as a WRC car, surely that must mean another Fiesta? especially if Van Merjkstein forfeited their car to allow Petter to start that must mean there is less DS3's than Fiesta's and as only Ford and Citroen will have homologated new cars by Sweden it has to be a Fiesta, if its a WRC car.

[Brother John]

I do not know why it is called M-Sport Stobart world rally team on WRC.COM as stobarts wont be involved at all.
WRC.COM need to get the correct facts./.....

Stobart is a large sponsor for M-Sport, they do al the transport for M-Sport and have transport contracts with Ford!!! M-Sport Stobart world rally team is just another name they need to score wrc points!!!

[SunDanceRanch]

Here the translation of the page from PG Andersson.
Translated withhttp: //www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pgandersson.se%2FNy%2FPartners_ StegeSWE.htm bing:

Greetings from Ekshärad Dimitry

[ste898]

Stobart is a large sponsor for M-Sport, they do al the transport for M-Sport and have transport contracts with Ford!!! M-Sport Stobart world rally team is just another name they need to score wrc points!!!

I have more information than that knowing someone in the team and Stobarts are not involved this year as they said no to sponsoring so why would they have a team without puting money in its like Castrol being on the cars but not putting money in

get rea!!!!

[Juha_Koo]

I have more information than that knowing someone in the team and Stobarts are not involved this year as they said no to sponsoring so why would they have a team without puting money in its like Castrol being on the cars but not putting money in

get rea!!!!

You mad?

Stobart is involved as a logistics partner. They don't put money in, but are a partner. Maybe M-Sport has been able to grind few thousands off from logistical bills by giving free visibility.

[FabiaFan]

Here the translation of the page from PG Andersson.
Translated withhttp: //www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pgandersson.se%2FNy%2FPartners_ StegeSWE.htm bing:

Greetings from Ekshärad Dimitry
Seems he still needs some 40k EUR more... :-o

Anyway - I'd still prefere seeing him in a Fabia S2000 to be able to compare top S2000 with WRCs - Andersson is the man for that, while Hanninen is absent; Ï'm not sure Sandell is that good on snow :-/
Is it still possible for PGA to change the car/category if he doesn't find enough money for Fiesta WRC???

[Brother John]

You mad?

Stobart is involved as a logistics partner. They don't put money in, but are a partner. Maybe M-Sport has been able to grind few thousands off from logistical bills by giving free visibility.

Yes many people do not understand as a company don' t draws money in also can be a sponsor or partner!
Concerning such things a company will not speak with someone who works there in the team! :s mokin:

[pantealex]

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2011/Pages/wrc_entries_swe.aspx

List of Manufacturer Entries for the 2011 Rally Sweden.
1 Loeb
2 Ogier
3 Hirvonen
4 Latvala
5 H.Solberg
6 Östberg
8 Räikkönen
9 Kuipers
43 Block

[FabiaFan]

Seems he still needs some 40k EUR more... :-o

Anyway - I'd still prefere seeing him in a Fabia S2000 to be able to compare top S2000 with WRCs - Andersson is the man for that, while Hanninen is absent; Ï'm not sure Sandell is that good on snow :-/
Is it still possible for PGA to change the car/category if he doesn't find enough money for Fiesta WRC??? Some 25k EUR, i.e. the half of the total amount, already collected!!! That means, his Fiesta WRC should be safe...

[RICARDO75]

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2011/Pages/wrc_entries_swe.aspx

List of Manufacturer Entries for the 2011 Rally Sweden.
1 Loeb
2 Ogier
3 Hirvonen
4 Latvala
5 H.Solberg
6 Östberg
8 Räikkönen
9 Kuipers
43 Block

So, PSWRT will not score points for manufacter teams.
Probably, he should have the #7

[fastboy]

[quote="FabiaFan"]Some 25k EUR, i.e. the half of the total amount, already collected!!! That means, his Fiesta WRC should be safe...[/Q


On PG's web site the translation i am now reading,seems to say that one person has payed 200,000 euro for him to start in WRC car for Sweden.Can anyone else confirm this.Great news if true!
http://translate.google.com/translate?tl=en&sourceid=ie8-activity&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pgandersson.se%2FNy%2FNyhet.htm

[Sulland]

It is a foundation that has set aside 200 000€ for PG

More on the foundation here: http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=sv&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.helmia.se%2Fstiftelse%2Fhelmias tiftelsen.asp

Helmia is also supporting the Walfridssons + Petter Solbergs son Oliver in Motorsport: http://www.walfridsson.com/

Congratulations PG !

[darkstar]

i think its 200000 kr not euro. at least it says that in the original text...this is about 23000 euro´s then.

[Rallyper]

Summary friday night tells that PG now got around 45000 Euros. That´s in two days my friends!

Amazing!

[Sulland]

Yes it is 200 000 Swedish Kroner. For some reason the google translation took kroner and made it to euro - sorry for that miss !

But he needed 500 000 SEK, and now has 400 000, so he should be close !

The Swedes deserve this, to have one car in the "King-Class" in their home rally !
PG will be a dark horse !!

[darkstar]

it would defenetly be very nice, remember him beating the top top drivers a** in norway 2009 with the old fabia, that was amazing!

[pavlos_a]

So, PG will drive a WRC Fiesta?
What is the cost of such a car?
Should be cheaper than the focus wrc

[StevieWonder]

So, PG will drive a WRC Fiesta?
What is the cost of such a car?
Should be cheaper than the focus wrc

that´s the right definition: ... SHOULD BE !!!

don´t think that there such a huge difference in costs (just the costs for a new motor have increased a lot ;-)

[Rallyper]

I dont know if I got this right but the cost is approximately 100 000 Euros for Rally Sweden.

[PLuto]

Price for rent Focus WRC 2010 and Fiesta WRC 2011 is absolutely the same...

[Sulland]

And for sweden that is aprox ?

[MikeD]

So, PSWRT will not score points for manufacter teams.
Probably, he should have the #7

No I think no. 7 is for the Munchi's WRT entry because they came in 5th in last years Manu title and they are confirmed as a Manu team this year (just not for Sweden).

PSWRT will according to AutoSport not start in Sweden as a Manu Team but might do so after the first WRC round. It's not decided yet if PSolberg will join an existing Manu team or run his own Manu team.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88924

Does anybody know what the money price is for winning the Manu title?. In F1 a constructor get app 40 mill UK punds for winning that title, whereas the drivers title "only" gets the trophy.

[GINE]

Price for rent Focus WRC 2010 and Fiesta WRC 2011 is absolutely the same...

Really?? The 2010 car costs a lot more. Am i wrong? It should be a little cheaper to rent the FIesta.

[GINE]

I dont know if I got this right but the cost is approximately 100 000 Euros for Rally Sweden.

I think it should be much more.

[Mirek]

It used to be over 200 thousand for WRC event with Focus.

[PLuto]

It should be, but it isnt. Citroen and Ford wants the same price as for "old" WRC car...

[StevieWonder]

think we should stop such a endless discussion about costs !

just tell me, how the weather is around hagfors - especially snow conditions

[Salist]

Somebody know the time plan of the Swedish Championship?

[Vargåsen]

think we should stop such a endless discussion about costs !

just tell me, how the weather is around hagfors - especially snow conditions

40 km west of Hagfors, close to Vargåsen stage.

Snow conditions perfect, 40-50 cm of snow, nice snowbanks

The weather at the moment +3 degrees and rain (after a real snowstorm last night). But that's not to bad, the forecast is colder again on tuesday so this will only make the roads icy and nice. All and all, this is the best conditions before the rally in many, many years. It's a long way to go unfortunately.

[FabiaFan]

It's such a pity we won't see somebody like PGA or Hanninen or another "local" top S2000 driver (Ketoma, Rantanen,...) - they could make the life of the WRC driver much more difficult there - and put the shame on all the paydrivers. The opportunity will never be so huge like here in Sweden.

Juho on an Austrian website:
"...Ich gehe davon aus, dass der Unterschied zwischen einem S2000 und einem WRC nicht mehr so groß ist wie zuvor...Ich glaube jedenfalls, dass man bei einigen Rallyes in einem guten S2000 den Speed der nicht ganz so erfahrenen Piloten in den neuen WRC’s mitgehen kann...Ich möchte jedenfalls in die Punkte fahren und bei der ein oder anderen Rallye in die Top-Sechs oder Top-Sieben fahren..."

I'm not sure Sandell, Brynildsen or Prokop will manage this...

[Atob WRC]

Hello all,

My first reply, and it´s for ask some information about stages.

Last year, was my first rally sweden. Here, some photos that I had taken on the rally:

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2052870&id=1429090603&l=ec2eeb8439

The first day, we´re looking to try to see 4 stages, but we haven´t stayed never in Vargasen, and don´t know nothing about the new stage in Norway.

-Vargasen: We will avoid to go to Colin´s Crest. Anybody know some good spot in the stage, near the road access. It´s interesting the access 4A, by Ransbysätter??

-Lovhaugen: The member Iskald, talked about a straight with a famous double jump before a junction. Which junction is it? Will be a road access?

Thank you very much for your help.

Best regards from Catalonia.

[RICARDO75]

This could be the livery 2011 for the Fiesta RS WRC

http://www.madsostberg.no/images/mmsblog/00316_00418.jpg

[Sulland]

This is the S2000 Mads will be using on the national scene, it might be that Coca Cola is continuing from the Orange S2000 he used last year, where Coca Cola had a place - and that Coca C will have a bigger place on the WRC car - maybe...

[fastboy]

I am coming over for the rally next month and wondered what the mobile 3G coverage is like around the stages?

[Vargåsen]

-Vargasen: We will avoid to go to Colin´s Crest. Anybody know some good spot in the stage, near the road access. It´s interesting the access 4A, by Ransbysätter??

Ransbysätter is good I would say. Real fast straight if you go to the left in the junction and fast over bridge and over open fields to the right (or straight forward) in the junction.

But please don't avoid Colin's crest. It's quite spectacular if you go to the top of the crest (which most people don't) and we will try to supply real fast information in English through the speakers regarding the standings (which Swedish radio is very poor at and the 3g mobile net has a bad habit of breaking down in the woods with so many people trying to surf/call)

However, if you don't like the chaos on Colins Crest, I would still prefer the Colins Crest access but continuing longer than the crest (towards the start) and the corners alongside lake Jangen. Really nice. But longer to the parking if you are in a rush to the next stage.

(My rally-gang is from the area and have throughout the years avoided the Colins Crest because of the chaos with (in our opinion) lousy speakers, giant screens etc. But then we were asked if we could do the job of measuring jumping lengths and speaking to the audience and we will now try to do this as informative and rallyfan-friendly as we can. At least, we get good spectator spots.)

[mousti]

Yes many people do not understand as a company don' t draws money in also can be a sponsor or partner!
Concerning such things a company will not speak with someone who works there in the team! :s mokin:
Indeed John good example is maybe Ypres 2 years ago I think with Europcar who was logistics partner and give the organisation +- 40 cars and some other stuff with doing that they were on the poster and stickers of the rally. Sponsor or partner doesn't need to be payed by money always..

[Bobcat]

Sponsor or partner doesn't need to be payed by money always..
+1

[tolis]

Ricardo Trivino from Mexico entered as well in an Evo X.

[Atob WRC]

-Vargasen: We will avoid to go to Colin´s Crest. Anybody know some good spot in the stage, near the road access. It´s interesting the access 4A, by Ransbysätter??

Ransbysätter is good I would say. Real fast straight if you go to the left in the junction and fast over bridge and over open fields to the right (or straight forward) in the junction.

But please don't avoid Colin's crest. It's quite spectacular if you go to the top of the crest (which most people don't) and we will try to supply real fast information in English through the speakers regarding the standings (which Swedish radio is very poor at and the 3g mobile net has a bad habit of breaking down in the woods with so many people trying to surf/call)

However, if you don't like the chaos on Colins Crest, I would still prefer the Colins Crest access but continuing longer than the crest (towards the start) and the corners alongside lake Jangen. Really nice. But longer to the parking if you are in a rush to the next stage.

(My rally-gang is from the area and have throughout the years avoided the Colins Crest because of the chaos with (in our opinion) lousy speakers, giant screens etc. But then we were asked if we could do the job of measuring jumping lengths and speaking to the audience and we will now try to do this as informative and rallyfan-friendly as we can. At least, we get good spectator spots.)

Thank you Vargasen; I have found one oneboard video of the Stage, that I can see the area of Ransbysätter and it´s according your description. I think that the pass trough the bridge before the junction is an interesting and a fast zone, much more fastest arriving!! Min. 3:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haw5ybEANE8&feature=related



And speaking about the situation on the Colin´s Crest, where are you explaining exactly?

Here a photo:
http://www.motorsportivarmland.nu/Bilder_nya/Notisbilder/2008/080118Colins.jpg

Thank you very much for your help!!

[Atob WRC]

Thank you Vargasen; I have found one oneboard video of the Stage, that I can see the area of Ransbysätter and it´s according your description. I think that the pass trough the bridge before the junction is an interesting and a fast zone, much more fastest arriving!! Min. 3:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haw5ybEANE8&feature=related



And speaking about the situation on the Colin´s Crest, where are you explaining exactly?

Here a photo:
http://www.motorsportivarmland.nu/Bilder_nya/Notisbilder/2008/080118Colins.jpg

Thank you very much for your help!!

And here the video!!! Sorry!!

haw5ybEANE8

Best regards!!

[rage82]

Hi guys, a stupid question but... why they are calling this place Colin's crest? Regards

[SunDanceRanch]

The Swedes deserve this, to have one car in the "King-Class" in their home rally !
PG will be a dark horse !!

Maybe i had should be an Volvo or an Saab.

Greetings

[pino]

Just a question for the local guys : how's the snow situation at the moment ? thanks :)

[Salist]

Vargasen - Colin's Crest 2010


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAeTmAMSYvw

[Salist]

Sunne webcam
http://www.sunne.se/weathercam.html

[rage82]

Thank you!

[Roy]

Hi guys, a stupid question but... why they are calling this place Colin's crest? Regards

http://forums.motorsport.com/forums/showpost.php?p=221133&postcount=7

[hari]

Just a question for the local guys : how's the snow situation at the moment ? thanks :)

Hagfors Webcam: http://www.sverigeinfo.net/webcams/hagfors.htm

[rage82]

http://forums.motorsport.com/forums/showpost.php?p=221133&postcount=7

Good explanation, thank you Roy

[pino]

Sunne webcam
http://www.sunne.se/weathercam.html


Hagfors Webcam: http://www.sverigeinfo.net/webcams/hagfors.htm

Thanks :up:

[AGA]

No Porsche in entry list since yesterday

[RICARDO75]

PG Andersson spoke on rally radio and confirmed that he will start Rally Sweden with the Fiesta WRC

[Sulland]

No Porsche in entry list since yesterday

Too bad ! Would have been fun !

[StevieWonder]

my guess: 9fiesta and 4-5ds3 WRC

you will see !


just want to mention: it was a good guess ;-)

[AlfaWRC]

just want to mention: it was a good guess ;-)

chapeau :-)

PS: Die Homepage in deiner Fußzeile existiert schon eine Zeit lang nimma...

[FabiaFan]

Valoušek pulled out... :-/ One Fabia less... :-(((
(not that he couldve achieved something big there...)

[tolis]

Valoušek pulled out... :-/ One Fabia less... :-(((
(not that he couldve achieved something big there...)
He'll start in Rallye Deutschland instead, as a test for Rally Barum.

[Atob WRC]

I think the reason is economy. The Värmland region has lots of forest roads, but not all of them are in regular use during winter time. For some of the classic stage roads the organiser knows and has been in cooperation with the owners for many year. some big forest companies sponsors the rally with free road use and also road preparation (snow ploughing etc.).

I do agree with you that it ends up boring with the same stages from year to year. For 2011 FIA actually wanted Rally Sweden to incorporate a full day with stages in the Finnskogen area in Norway. Its a pity they didn`t want that, as the Finnskog roads are fantastic and of a different caracter (more technical) than the stages in Sweden. With remote service at the little community of Svulrya they could have a stage distance of some 150 kms with very little road sections. Instead they chose to run only part of a stage in Norway.

Btw the "Norway stage" has been a classic in the Rally Finnskog (ERC and NRC) for many years. The stage is called Løvhaugen and has a fantastic spectator area when the cars are passing the farm Løvhaugen. There is also a straight with a famous double jump before a junction. Yours truly knows the stage quite well ;-) Codriving Tord Linnerud in a Corolla WRC we managed a stage record in 2005...

Hello Iskald!

Could you show me on a map, where is the straight with a famous double jump before a junction, in the Lovhaugen stage??

Thanks a lot!!

[Sulland]

No Porsche in entry list since yesterday

I am so sorry but the FIA have decided that we have to wait, so maybe porutgal! Sorry for this.
Thanks for the interest.

Kind regards

Richard

A guy on a norwegian forum asked Tuthill why he withdrew from Sweden, an the answer abow. FIA is not ready for R-GT yet.

[Salist]

Valoušek pulled out... :-/ One Fabia less... :-(((
(not that he couldve achieved something big there...)

Hmmmm, it's a bad news! :(

[HaCo]

Pitty, I do believe in the NGT category. Imagine 350Z, Lotus, small Porsche, Z4, ... going sideways in a subclass, maybe much more interesting than WRC :)

[tfp]

Pitty, I do believe in the NGT category. Imagine 350Z, Lotus, small Porsche, Z4, ... going sideways in a subclass, maybe much more interesting than WRC :)

Agreed! I dont think they will offer much in gravel rally's, but I think they'd come into their own on tarmac. might even make rallye Deutschland and rally de Espana a little less predictable :)

[rp]

P-G:
http://svt.se/2.21146/1.2303644/p-g_andersson_klar_for_svenska_rallyt

[René]

Loeb test DS3 WRC in Sweden

http://news.sportauto.fr/news/1435622/video-citroen-ds3-wrc-sebastien-loeb-essais-suede

[WRXedUSA]

Thank you Vargasen; I have found one oneboard video of the Stage, that I can see the area of Ransbysätter and it´s according your description. I think that the pass trough the bridge before the junction is an interesting and a fast zone, much more fastest arriving!! Min. 3:30

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haw5ybEANE8&feature=related



And speaking about the situation on the Colin´s Crest, where are you explaining exactly?

Here a photo:
http://www.motorsportivarmland.nu/Bilder_nya/Notisbilder/2008/080118Colins.jpg

Thank you very much for your help!!

I would recommend going to Colin's Crest if you haven't been to Sweden before, as there is no other place like it in the world on the WRC calendar and it has become a "must do" at least once kinda thing. But, keep this in mind:

1. Get there stupid early and plan on staying ALL DAY for both runnings. Don't be in a hurry to get somewhere, because you're not going anywhere.
2. Plan on dealing with lots of drunkards
3. Camp out your spot and make sure nobody comes hustling for it.
4. A ladder or step stool might be nice, especially if you are short
5. Enjoy the crazy PA announcer guy, korv and sweet smoke in the forest
6. Don't plan on taking pictures. It's just too dark and smoky, and too many people lined along the jump.

I sadly won't be able to make it this year, but it sounds like it's shaping up to be be a nice edition with a ton of spectators attending.

[Micke_VOC]

Entry list approved by FIA in seeded order
http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/Entry-list-approved-by-FIA2.pdf

[6789]

Petter No 11 again :D

[Rallyper]

Petter No 11 again :D

And van Merksteijn seeded no 1 and PG seeded no 2 category - so tell me what is this? A farse? :eek:

[RICARDO75]

van Merksteijn is not on the entry list

[rp]

And van Merksteijn seeded no 1 and PG seeded no 2 category - so tell me what is this? A farse? :eek:

van Merksteijn is not on the entry list

You mean Kuipers..? All the registered Manufacturers are Priority 1 drivers, so that is why Kuipers (Ferm Power Tools W.R.T.), Block (Monster W.R.T.) and Räikkönen (Ice 1 Racing) are seeded no 1.

PG and Matthew have priority 2, because their class is WRC, but are not scoring Manufacturer´s points...

[Rallyper]

Sorry I meant Kuipers. same same but different... :o

[alleskids]

Khalid Al Qassimi is also priority 1, while he normally is the third/reserve driver for Castrol Ford Abu Dhabi. Now he is entered for Team Abu Dhabi. Is he planning a whole season in 2011 and entering in the Manufacturer championship?
Petter Solberg also has priority 1. Did he had it already in 2010 , or is PSWRT entering the championship from round 1 , instead of starting in Mexico?

[RICARDO75]

Khalid Al Qassimi is also priority 1, while he normally is the third/reserve driver for Castrol Ford Abu Dhabi. Now he is entered for Team Abu Dhabi. Is he planning a whole season in 2011 and entering in the Manufacturer championship?

That could only happen if he replace Latvala in some events...
Do you think Malcolm Wilson could that?

[Juha_Koo]

That could only happen if he replace Latvala in some events...
Do you think Malcolm Wilson could that?

Yes, that's just as likely as it is for an asteroid to drop from the sky directly to your head and killing you. :D

[alleskids]

I meant theoratical, as he is the third driver for Castrol Ford Abu Dhabi WRT and officialy a factory driver, although he drove older specifications Focus WRCars. Now he is entered under priority 1 (like al other manufacturer drivers) and Team Abu Dhabi, plus he has number 10.

[fastboy]

Entry list approved by FIA in seeded order
http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/Entry-list-approved-by-FIA2.pdf


Will that be the running order for day 1 in Sweden ?

[RICARDO75]

Yes, that's just as likely as it is for an asteroid to drop from the sky directly to your head and killing you. :D

Or in your head...

[RICARDO75]

I meant theoratical, as he is the third driver for Castrol Ford Abu Dhabi WRT and officialy a factory driver, although he drove older specifications Focus WRCars. Now he is entered under priority 1 (like al other manufacturer drivers) and Team Abu Dhabi, plus he has number 10.

Al-Qassimi is not a nominated driver but he will do almost every rally in the championship.
Matthew Wilson and PG Andersson only secured the Swedish Rally for now.
I think there's a new rule that a driver that enters 3 or 4 events in 2011 or score on them (I don´t remember well), automaticly this driver will be in Priority #1 list in the next events

[pantealex]

I meant theoratical, as he is the third driver for Castrol Ford Abu Dhabi WRT and officialy a factory driver, although he drove older specifications Focus WRCars. Now he is entered under priority 1 (like al other manufacturer drivers) and Team Abu Dhabi, plus he has number 10.

3 Ford Abu Dhabi World Rally Team (Mikko Hirvonen)
4 Ford Abu Dhabi World Rally Team (J-M Latvala)
10 Team Abu Dhabi (K Al-Qassimi)

so different team entry name for Al-Qassimi and in original entrylist he was number 14 and priority 2
also Petter was priority 2 in original entrylist.

My opinion is that we have now 9 teams in "manufactures championship"

[RICARDO75]

3 Ford Abu Dhabi World Rally Team (Mikko Hirvonen)
4 Ford Abu Dhabi World Rally Team (J-M Latvala)
10 Team Abu Dhabi (K Al-Qassimi)

so different team entry name for Al-Qassimi and in original entrylist he was number 14 and priority 2
also Petter was priority 2 in original entrylist.

My opinion is that we have now 9 teams in "manufactures championship"

Maybe, but FIA list for Sweden in Manufactures Championship is this: http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2011/Pages/wrc_entries_swe.aspx

[rp]

3 Ford Abu Dhabi World Rally Team (Mikko Hirvonen)
4 Ford Abu Dhabi World Rally Team (J-M Latvala)
10 Team Abu Dhabi (K Al-Qassimi)

so different team entry name for Al-Qassimi and in original entrylist he was number 14 and priority 2
also Petter was priority 2 in original entrylist.

My opinion is that we have now 9 teams in "manufactures championship"


Maybe, but FIA list for Sweden in Manufactures Championship is this: http://fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/pressreleases/wrc/2011/Pages/wrc_entries_swe.aspx

Yes! That must be the only possible explanation...

[SunDanceRanch]

Last minute to rally Sweden???

Book now:http://www.sundanceranch.eu/pages/rally_sweden_engels.html

Greetings Dimitry

[Iskald]

Hello Iskald!

Could you show me on a map, where is the straight with a famous double jump before a junction, in the Lovhaugen stage??

Thanks a lot!!

Its a pity but they have decided on running the stage in opposite direction. That means it will now be a square left in a junction and then uphill acceleration passing what will not be two spectacular jumps, but rather two small crests. No chance for any sort of liftoff when the stage runs like this.
If you want to see the jump on a video go to http://www.injection.no. Choose any of the programs. In the start trailer of the programme Mads Østberg is flying past the camera in his Subaru. This is the last of the two jumps. The first one is passed appr. 100 metres before.
I still think the Løvhaugen stage (SS4/7) will have plenty of atmosphere with lots of happy norwegian spectators. The passing of the farm Løvhaugen will be good also in this direction, its very accessible and it should be great watching across open farmland.

[Atob WRC]

Hello all!

In order to get more interesting spots for this year, I will put a photo of some stages I´ve stayed last year. Please, comment more interesting places to go for see the swedish rally.

Best regards!

SS4 Torntorp:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs404.snc3/24508_1411779581042_1429090603_31122325_1552584_n. jpg

SS5 Likenas:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs424.snc3/24508_1411780221058_1429090603_31122338_6099428_n. jpg

SS11 Frediksberg 1:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs169.snc3/19634_1360196731503_1429090603_31006792_612895_n.j pg

SS14 Sagen 2:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs404.snc3/24508_1411781621093_1429090603_31122370_1622570_n. jpg

S19: Lesjofors:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs404.snc3/24508_1411783021128_1429090603_31122401_3908583_n. jpg

[Atob WRC]

Its a pity but they have decided on running the stage in opposite direction. That means it will now be a square left in a junction and then uphill acceleration passing what will not be two spectacular jumps, but rather two small crests. No chance for any sort of liftoff when the stage runs like this.
If you want to see the jump on a video go to http://www.injection.no. Choose any of the programs. In the start trailer of the programme Mads Østberg is flying past the camera in his Subaru. This is the last of the two jumps. The first one is passed appr. 100 metres before.
I still think the Løvhaugen stage (SS4/7) will have plenty of atmosphere with lots of happy norwegian spectators. The passing of the farm Løvhaugen will be good also in this direction, its very accessible and it should be great watching across open farmland.
´
Thanks a lot Iskald for your information! Probably we will go to the farm for the first pass.

Best regards from Catalonia!

[Roy]

3 Ford Abu Dhabi World Rally Team (Mikko Hirvonen)
4 Ford Abu Dhabi World Rally Team (J-M Latvala)
10 Team Abu Dhabi (K Al-Qassimi)

so different team entry name for Al-Qassimi and in original entrylist he was number 14 and priority 2
also Petter was priority 2 in original entrylist.

My opinion is that we have now 9 teams in "manufactures championship"

Why should each entrant be a manufacturer? PSWRT wasn't last year.
I think Team Abu Dhabi is just an entrant. No more, no less.

[AndyRAC]

Actually it's a joke - there are only 2 Manufacturers!! Despite what we are told.

[bluuford]

Why should each entrant be a manufacturer? PSWRT wasn't last year.
I think Team Abu Dhabi is just an entrant. No more, no less.

Reason is simple, new rules:
P1 drivers:
11.1.2 Drivers who have been nominated as P2 drivers on more than 2 consecutive rounds of the
World Rally Championship in the current year. As directed by the FIA, these drivers must then comply with
the rules pertaining to WRC Teams.
11.1.3 Any driver classified amongst the first 6 in the final classification of the FIA World Rally
Championship for Drivers in the past 5 years unless eligible to score points for a Support Championship.

So, last year he was allowed to test as much as he wanted and wherever he wanted (e.g Mexico etc.). Now he is unable to do it and he is considered as WRC team anyway. So, better to pay 32 000 EUR more and get more exposure by appearing in Manufacturers rankings as well.

[morganmilan]

Actually it's a joke - there are only 2 Manufacturers!! Despite what we are told.
+1

[AndyRAC]

Maybe there should be a Manufacturers championship, and a Teams championship, like in MotoGP.

[Micke_VOC]

Weather report for 10 days...
http://www.yr.no/sted/Sverige/V%C3%A4rmland/Hagfors_Kommun/langtidsvarsel.html

Webcam in Hagfors
http://www.sverigeinfo.net/webcams/hagfors.htm

There are perfect conditions on the stages in the Area..
For the first time ever Loeb its satisfied with the conditions.

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://nwt.se/sport/motorsport/article840753.ece&act=url

[pino]

Great news...thanks Micke :up: Can't wait to ge there :D

[J4MIE]

Perfect conditions! Can't wait for that :D

[JTLarsen]

Anybody know if the official program will be available for purchase online?

[twin_cam_ire]

Hi, HEADIN

[twin_cam_ire]

Hi, roll on rally sweden .... anyone know of any good spots on the sagen stage to watch and do wee need a rally pass for this stage? thanks in advance

Twin Cam Ireland

[JTLarsen]

Is there anyone here who has bought the official program, who would be kind enough the scan the pages with the stagemaps, spectator points and GPS coordinates.

If so please get in touch by PM or e-mail: jtl (at) rallyfotografen.dk

Sadly it seems that Rally Sweden will not be releasing a program for sale online.

[Rallyper]

All details of the specialstages is on the website.

Program is just filled with "värdelöst vetande".

[JTLarsen]

Like I said, I need the spectator points and GPS coordinates, these are not on the homepage.

[twin_cam_ire]

that would be handy for us headin over as well if anyone has them for the sagen stage please send

[Rallyper]

In the old times a decent map would be enough... :cool:

[JTLarsen]

In the old times a decent map would be enough... :cool:

I think I remember those..

[Salist]

Like I said, I need the spectator points and GPS coordinates, these are not on the homepage.

Shakedown - Start: N 59°57'41.35" E 13°37'37.97"
Shakedown (middle): N 59°58'30.04" E 13°35'59.68"
Shakedown - Finish: N 59°59'25.19" E 13°35'51.84"

Super Special in Karlstad: N 59°24'34.16" E 13°30'3.18"

Vargasen - Colin's Crest: N 60° 0'16.29" E 13°17'33.03"
Likenas (cauldron): N 60°31'35.69" E 13° 8'42.10"

[dimviii]

The car is fast, fun and great to drive. I think it's faster than C4 WRC. I'm glad for every minute in the car. The day is almost over and we have done a lot things. We will definitely go up into the night, "said Petter Solberg.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=cs&sl=cs&tl=en&u=http://www.ewrc.cz/ewrc/show.php%3Fid%3D15963