Rally Sweden 2011

[kolvas]

Great times by Ahlin in his Fiesta R2 ahead several 4wd cars. Anyone could say me something about him? I have no idea at all

He is the son to Susanne Kottulinsky

[N.O.T]

no splits from wrc.com just a disgrace....

[GigiGalliNo1]

What's going on?! My stupid wrc app not working and using iPhone and can't really open big websites with splits...

Boo!!

[Mise]

Rally radio plays ACDC "Highway to Hel." I think it's a bit colder in Sweden. :D
The point beeing that the stage is on, isn't it. And they play music.
No splits eather. (again)

Is the ss19 on or not?

Edit
Well they are working now.

[N.O.T]

now they are up no second split for mikko....but there is one for solberg ....the tension rises.

[KKS]

what's going on on that wrc.com :( grrrr

[kolvas]

yes thought so but how do you keep your stages safe from any illegal recce all these months from when they are announcned until the rally ?

I'm not sure how they do it, I don't think there is marshalls on the stages all of the time so there is a possibility that someone could do illegal recce

[KKS]

ohh few slpits done :)

[N.O.T]

mikko faster still 3rd split now appeared.

[Mirek]

Andersson 11 seconds slower on a 4 km stage....i think the roads of this day are very soft and break up.

He lost almost 9 seconds on first split so I guess it was spin or stalled engine on start.

[N.O.T]

still no wind...the rally is over for the win i think now...lucky man.

[muscrae]

Mikko is so lucky, thats for sure...

[N.O.T]

Mikko winning here will make the championship job for Loeb eaier i think....

[kolvas]

why is there no splits on Östberg?

[N.O.T]

nothing works over at wrc.com.....pppffttt

[KKS]

Does wind make big difference on cars with they road position? I think no wind is same for 1st on the road and 5th. no?

[N.O.T]

ØSTBERG M. / ANDERSSON J. "It was OK, we are pushing really hard. Absolutelly on limit, not able to go so much quicker. Couple of mistakes, but not too bad." from rally.cz

still 1.8 slower than mikko...pity the rally was diceded by the conditions and not the driving.

[dimviii]

impressive pace from Mads!!

[N.O.T]

it does because the snow stays on the air and its like dust....drivers below 1st cannot see on places with many trees.

[N.O.T]

no chance for solberg to win now.... but he second pass maybe interesting if roads are destroyed.

[kolvas]

Does wind make big difference on cars with they road position? I think no wind is same for 1st on the road and 5th. no?

Snow dust from the cars in front keeps hanging in the air if there is no wind


Latvala drops alot of time

[The D Man]

Is there anywhere you can watch the live powerstage online?

[N.O.T]

Latvala also slower than Solberg but i guess this mornings shake he had calmed him down...or maybe wilson ordered to bring the points.

[N.O.T]

Is there anywhere you can watch the live powerstage online?

2-3 pages back there are some links

[Woodeye]

The greek loser here now complaining that Mikko has good luck. Pathetic.

Is there anywhere else to follow the splits than wrc.com which seem to have crashed?

[N.O.T]

Latvala had intercom problems and solberg was on the faulty damper.

[Krigen]

impressive pace from Mads!!

Wery!

[KKS]

N.O.T, kolvas, And this snow dust will not drop down for 2 minutes http://www.motorsportforums.com/forums/images/icons/eek.gif
Tnx for answers.

[N.O.T]

The greek loser here now complaining that Mikko has good luck. Pathetic.

Is there anywhere else to follow the splits than wrc.com which seem to have crashed?

well didn't he ?? the conditions were perfect for him this morning while the previous days they destoyed everyones else chances.

[ridder]

let's hope there are no citroen team orders in the afternoon

[N.O.T]

they cannot afford team orders with latvala so close....

[N.O.T]

LOEB S. / ELENA D. "Can't do anything. Trying to finish. Why this not be case of first day. Good ice, no snow on the road."

Lucky mikko....or not ????

[Woodeye]

Hard for me to believe that the snow hanging in the air will stay there for two mins. Have been living the first 30 years of my life here in the north and haven't yet witnessed such a snow ever. maybe 30 secs, yes, but 2 mins no.

And if it would be Loeb being the number one and winning, you would be chanting something idiotic like "master beating the others like sick dogs without owner."

[N.O.T]

Hard for me to believe that the snow hanging in the air will stay there for two mins. Have been living the first 30 years of my life here in the north and haven't yet witnessed such a snow ever. maybe 30 secs, yes, but 2 mins no.

And if it would be Loeb being the number one and winning, you would be chanting something idiotic like "master beating the others like sick dogs without owner."

yes because when loeb is winning it usually happens like that.....and i ask again you think mikko won because he was faster and not because of the conditions ??? I would have no problems latvala to win or ogier or solberg or osteberg....

you are just prejudiced against me...but i still love you.

[dimviii]

i d like to have a live camera with Quesnel face,3 stages before finish and holding positions 4 and 6,and a local 23 years old in 2nd.

[Mise]

Hard for me to believe that the snow hanging in the air will stay there for two mins. Have been living the first 30 years of my life here in the north and haven't yet witnessed such a snow ever. maybe 30 secs, yes, but 2 mins no.

And if it would be Loeb being the number one and winning, you would be chanting something idiotic like "master beating the others like sick dogs without owner."

I've been living here for 40 yearts and haven't seen that eather.
Besides Loeb didn't say anything about the snow.
And the last season was just a one big lucky season for Mikko. :D

[N.O.T]

i d like to have a live camera with Quesnel face,3 stages before finish and holding positions 4 and 6,and a local 23 years old in 2nd.

ostberg is norwegian...

[Francis44]

If Mikko wins, this is a good start to his championsip, but it will mean first on the road in Mexico and Mikko is still no Loeb. I dont believe he is capable of a comeback from opening the road like Loeb his.

[N.O.T]

I've been living here for 40 yearts and haven't seen that eather.
Besides Loeb didn't say anything about the snow.
And the last season was just a one big lucky season for Mikko. :D

luck is not when someone crashes....thats normal and its driver error 80% of the time. But when conditions do not allow a fair fight and favouring a driver then its luck.

[dimviii]

ostberg is norwegian...
That will NOT change Quesnel face.

[F1boat]

So far the rally is very interesting. I want Mads to win his first rally and I am impressed from Ogier.

[N.O.T]

If Mikko wins, this is a good start to his championsip, but it will mean first on the road in Mexico and Mikko is still no Loeb. I dont believe he is capable of a comeback from opening the road like Loeb his.

as i said mikko winning here just makes loebs championship chances easier...Latvala and Ogier are the ones to follow... I hope mikko keeps the mentality he has on this day for the following events...then maybe he has a chance to mix as well.

[Woodeye]

yes because when loeb is winning it usually happens like that.....and i ask again you think mikko won because he was faster and not because of the conditions ??? I would have no problems latvala to win or ogier or solberg or osteberg....

you are just prejudiced against me...but i still love you.

I'm speechless.

[N.O.T]

That will NOT change Quesnel face.

it will if it was swede he was going to be blue now it will turn red (an a bit of blue)

[ridder]

i d like to have a live camera with Quesnel face,3 stages before finish and holding positions 4 and 6,and a local 23 years old in 2nd.

I'd rather hear if he has anything to say to Solberg, somehow I don't believe that finish just one position ahead of first factory car is an option.

[N.O.T]

I'm speechless.

i know i have a natural charisma doing that to most people....

[gregwrc]

i d like to have a live camera with Quesnel face,3 stages before finish and holding positions 4 and 6,and a local 23 years old in 2nd.
:D :) :D :)

[dimviii]

I'd rather hear if he has anything to say to Solberg, somehow I don't believe that finish just one position ahead of first factory car is an option.
lets wait and see what happens.Very interesting

[HarriK]

I've been living here for 40 yearts and haven't seen that eather.
Besides Loeb didn't say anything about the snow.
And the last season was just a one big lucky season for Mikko. :D

Yes it does, remember that sun is shining very much and little icy snow is hanging in the air. No wind between forest road.

[N.O.T]

someone turned wrc.com off....god bless him.

[Woodeye]

Yes it does, remember that sun is shining very much and little icy snow is hanging in the air. No wind between forest road.

But still, not for two mins for sure. But maybe there are thousands of swedes making rally makkara in open fire causing a lot of smoke to the forest. :)

[kolvas]

Has Wilson told Östberg to back of from Hirvonen?
Östberg told swedish radio that he is going steady and not pushing, still he is only 1,8 sek behind Mikko on SS19

[Psycho!]

Morning guys!!I haven't posted for a while but I just can't read this crap!!!!Come ooooon!!!If Loeb was doing Mikko's time from first on the road,they would have crowned him champion by now!!!!Instead they are talking about hunging snow.....!!!!!And I am questioning...Mikko is useless and drives faster on clear ICE,ok??So what's in the air???It's maybe an ice type pokemon throwing snow in the air........Sooooo pathetic some guys hereeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sulland]

someone turned wrc.com off....god bless him.

Good to see you actually have a sense of humor, enjoy the ouzo !

[Krigen]

Has Wilson told Östberg to back of from Hirvonen?
Östberg told swedish radio that he is going steady and not pushing, still he is only 1,8 sek behind Mikko on SS19

What??? He did say the exact opposite, he said he was going abusolute max and cuold not go any faster whitout chrashing.

[N.O.T]

no need for pokemons to do that...mikkos back tyres do the job pretty nicely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzMoYDz5pKc

imagine the thing that comes from the spray to stay in the air.....not very nice for the followers

[F1boat]

All drivers here are very, very good IMO, so luck is important, but Miko is driving very well, really. He was always very tough to beat in Sweden, however.

[HarriK]

But still, not for two mins for sure. But maybe there are thousands of swedes making rally makkara in open fire causing a lot of smoke to the forest. :)
Let's wait and see incar videos..

[kolvas]

What??? He did say the exact opposite, he said he was going abusolute max and cuold not go any faster whitout chrashing.

Oopps, sorry, I listened to an rerun from yesterday

[A.F.F.]

i know i have a natural charisma doing that to most people....

:D

Anyways.... Top five is in very refreshing order :up: I'm very happy about Östberg's consistent pace but unfortunately I'm cheering for Mikko's win :bounce:

[Mirek]

Hmm, I have quite a lot of experience with frost snow in the air from downhill skying and I also can't image it stays in the air for two minutes...

[GigiGalliNo1]

Petter will; still be bloody happy to have a podium and in front of factory team!!

Suckers!!!! :p

[Mise]

I made a bet where you need to know(quess) the top three.
I have Hirvonen to win
Ostberg to be Second
and Loeb to be third.

For one euro bet it would give approximately 2000 euros
and I have two euros bet.

So go Loeb go. ;) :D

[N.O.T]

Hmm, I have quite a lot of experience with frost snow in the air from downhill skying and I also can't image it stays in the air for two minutes...

downhill skying i think creates far larger particles than 4 tyres with studs moving at 200 kph

[N.O.T]

and even if the snow/dust wasn't that bad....the fact we had 2 days of stages with full snow and now we have clear ice is again very very lucky.

Hirvonen is doing a fantastic job today since he is the fastest and would certainly be a contender even without the luck (he proved that last year when loeb admited that there was nothing he could do to catch him)....but the 2 days incapacitated the other contenders.

[Coach 2]

So because you have not seen snow hang for two minutes, you choose to believe that drivers are lying.
Strange.

[dimviii]

Maybe this snow dust is creating from the wind-> snowdust from the snow on trees?

[RS]

Will the power stage be available to watch streaming on wrc.com for those who don't want to pay for ESPN?

[N.O.T]

thats the effect of blind favouritism/nationalism does.....others do not want Loeb to win because (insert stupid reason here), others the citroens, others the fords, others the driver who is not of their nationality...facts are facts though and on this case Hirvonen win because of luck in a great extend.

[N.O.T]

http://www.fromsportcom.com/c-10.html
http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchi...91&part=sports (http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=105291&part=sports)

ondrawrc provided these links a few pages back....hope they work when time comes

[SunDanceRanch]

I hope they don't get problems on Thorntorp 2 because they ask the people don'tcome anymore till Thorntorp2 because there is already to much croud.
the safety car have alredy problems there.

[Coach 2]

Maybe you're right, it is maybe about misunderstandings and poor English. Chauffeurs has complained that the the windscreen is iced, and it is given a poor visibility.

[Halvis]

Mads is doing extremely good - I am just getting more and more impressed. What a debut in a competetive car!

Seems like Mikko will win, great drive from him today - he still have been lucky with conditions, no doubt about that. Still, one small spin and everything can be lost.

Very, very exciting rally!

[Mirek]

Maybe this snow dust is creating from the wind-> snowdust from the snow on trees?

That's possible and probably true.


downhill skying i think creates far larger particles than 4 tyres with studs moving at 200 kph

Very much depends on conditions but generally it's very similar.

[Ondra WRC]

Link at highlights WRC 2011: http://wrc.mirafiori.com/wrc_2011/

[N.O.T]

13 minutes to next stage....

[ln-ops]

Some pictures from SS19, Rämmen:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wilfred/sets/72157626037654032/

[VFTS]

Hmm, I have quite a lot of experience with frost snow in the air from downhill skying and I also can't image it stays in the air for two minutes...

Then you have not any experience living in countries in the north. In "cold" countries like Norway, Sweden, Finland the snowdust can appear in the air for several minutes if its cold and no wind. Especially if its colder than -10. And today it was more than -20 in rallyarea.

Thats always been a problem in winterrallies in the nordic countires.

[N.O.T]

second loop of stages just started....lets see..

[Mirek]

Then you have not any experience living in countries in the north. In "cold" countries like Norway, Sweden, Finland the snowdust can appear in the air for several minutes if its cold and no wind. Especially if its colder than -10. And today it was more than -20 in rallyarea.

Thats always been a problem in winterrallies in the nordic countires.

Ok, giving up ;)

[dimviii]

Then you have not any experience living in countries in the north. In "cold" countries like Norway, Sweden, Finland the snowdust can appear in the air for several minutes if its cold and no wind. Especially if its colder than -10. And today it was more than -20 in rallyarea.

Thats always been a problem in winterrallies in the nordic countires.
Must be the same as in our rallies in Greece when in places with no wind and a lot of trees.Also depends and from the particular gravel
/dust.Plenty of times in Acropolis that 2 minutes is not enough to have clear vision.

[N.O.T]

Hirvonen just a fraction slower than this morning on 1st split

[dimviii]

Ok, giving up ;)
NOT give up :p

[N.O.T]

Ostberg faster by 0.3 ..... this is getting interesting already.

[N.O.T]

Hirvonen 6 seconds slower than his morning time on split 2....bare in mind that the stage was slower the second time round last year as well...

[N.O.T]

wrc.com off again......

[N.O.T]

solberg 0.9 faster on split 1.....

[A.F.F.]

Go mikko !!!!!!!

[pettersolberg29]

Petter loses 13s

[Koz]

Is it just me or is WRC.com down?

Anyone have another link to non wrc.com splits?

[HarriK]

Will the power stage be available to watch streaming on wrc.com for those who don't want to pay for ESPN?

http://www.mypremium.tv/

[satnav]

solberg 13 down at 6ks

[jonkka]

Yeh, wrc.com does admirable job of promoting the sport and serve the most exciting moments unspoiled.

[Krigen]

Østberg is going for it :)

[N.O.T]

oi oi oi nerve wrecking and wrc.com doesn't help one bit....

[Francis44]

Is Østberg mad or what?! Challenging a official man :D .

[Sulland]

9.2 sec up to Hirvonen

[KKS]

Solberg lost all chances to win :(

[Francis44]

Oh Damn Malcolm Wilson should already be trying to contact Mads in the car, from what he said he will not go for it :( .

[N.O.T]

Both hirvonen and osteberg report snow and that are sweeping now....!!! did it snow during the break ???

[N.O.T]

ØSTBERG M. / ANDERSSON J. "He is clearing for me, I do for cars behind. Bloody hell, it's really difficult. I want to push, risk it now."

HIRVONEN M. / LEHTINEN J. "It was more difficult, so much snow. We are cleaning the road. I think next one will be worst."

from the one and only rally.cz

[Wim_Impreza]

Then you have not any experience living in countries in the north. In "cold" countries like Norway, Sweden, Finland the snowdust can appear in the air for several minutes if its cold and no wind. Especially if its colder than -10. And today it was more than -20 in rallyarea.

Thats always been a problem in winterrallies in the nordic countires.

Again luck for Hirvonen. Unbelievable how lucky he is.

[tfp]

Grrr wrc.com.....
Does anyone have the stage times after SS19?

[Mirek]

Petter spun

[pettersolberg29]

It's due to the effects of all the 'lower' cars ruining the lines I assume, and clipping snowbanks etc.

[HarriK]

PG stopped but now running again...

[N.O.T]

Latvala charges !!!!! a possible 1-2-3 for ford...only obstacle is ogier now !!!! WHAT A FINALE....THE BEST MOTORSPORT IN THE WORLD

[Koz]

grrr wrc.com.....
Does anyone have the stage times after ss19?

1. 3 m. Hirvonen 39.5 3:19.7 5:35.1 8:09.8 10:10.0
2. 6 m. Østberg -0.3 -0.6 -2.0 -3.9 10:05.5
3. 11 p. Solberg -0.9 +13.8 +13.3 +13.0 10:25.0
4. 4 j. Latvala -1.1 -3.3 -5.5 -7.7 10:00.0
5. 1 s. Loeb -1.4 +2.2 +5.9 +10.2
6. 8 k. RÄikkonen +0.3 +6.0 +9.4

[Mirek]

Maybe wind causes the sweeping...

[N.O.T]

The battle for 3rd is going to be AMAZING !!!!!! and no splits from wrc.com ??? someone sue them....i am busy.

[N.O.T]

Maybe wind causes the sweeping...

or pokemons

[N.O.T]

LOEB S. / ELENA D. "I was very carefull, just save tyres for Power Stage. No problem." from rally.cz

[dimviii]

LOEB S. / ELENA D. (st. č. 1) "I was very carefull, just save tyres for Power Stage.
from vysledky.cz

Finally Loeb wants the 3 points from power stage.

[N.O.T]

we can safely say that Solberg lost this rally due to seer stupidity......2 penalties and a mistake at the most inappropriate time.

[N.O.T]

ANDERSSON P.-G. / AXELSSON E. "I hit the snowbank, car spin around, I didn't knew right direction."

i think andersson spent more times driving the stages backwards than the actual direction.....

[tfp]

1. 3 m. Hirvonen 39.5 3:19.7 5:35.1 8:09.8 10:10.0
2. 6 m. Østberg -0.3 -0.6 -2.0 -3.9 10:05.5
3. 11 p. Solberg -0.9 +13.8 +13.3 +13.0 10:25.0
4. 4 j. Latvala -1.1 -3.3 -5.5 -7.7 10:00.0
5. 1 s. Loeb -1.4 +2.2 +5.9 +10.2
6. 8 k. RÄikkonen +0.3 +6.0 +9.4

Thanks, I wish wrc.com would pull their finger out!

[Mirek]

or pokemons

Eh, I don't get it...

[N.O.T]

WILSON M. / MARTIN S. "It went well. Guys made the cleaning."

nice world wilson is living in......is he for real ??? he is a disgrace and an embarassement to the sport !!!!!

[dimviii]

Wilslow after the ss...and 25 seconds slower at 19 km....
WILSON M. / MARTIN S. (st. č. 15) "It went well. Guys made the cleaning."

What a clown my god....

[Koz]

N.O.T & dimviii are you twins???

[jonkka]

At least Matthew keeps you two busy... :)

[dimviii]

N.O.T & dimviii are you twins???

Have a do something bad to you? :D

[N.O.T]

50 minutes until the next stage.

[Koz]

Just wondering :D

[dimviii]

Just wondering :D

NOT is unique,impossible to find a copy.

[N.O.T]

well i must wish you a happy web-spectating i must go out now unfortunatelly.....please do not cry that you will see the the finale without me.

[Mirek]

wrc.com is crashing more often than PG this weekend. It makes me crazy...

[A.F.F.]

Loeb is in starve for those extra points I suppose.....

Great battle without maestro himself. Must be a new experience for him...

[kolvas]

wrc.com is crashing more often than PG this weekend. It makes me crazy...

What makes you crasy? PG chrashing or wrc.com chrashing? :D

[GigiGalliNo1]

wrc.com is crashing more often than PG this weekend. It makes me crazy...

Hahaha!

[Wim_Impreza]

ANDERSSON P.-G. / AXELSSON E. "I hit the snowbank, car spin around, I didn't knew right direction."

i think andersson spent more times driving the stages backwards than the actual direction.....

Andersson is the luckiest guy in this rally. So much mistakes and still in the rally. His ambition was to be on the podium...

[Sulland]

wrc.com is crashing more often than PG this weekend. It makes me crazy...

Yes it is blody amazing what a quality difference FIA allowes btw F1 and WRC ! The F1 site is quite proffesional compared to the WRC one.
Write a mail to Michele Mirek !

[dimviii]

wrc.com is crashing more often than PG this weekend. It makes me crazy...

HAHAHAHHA Nice one!

[The D Man]

can you watch the power stage online????

[Mirek]

What makes you crasy? PG chrashing or wrc.com chrashing? :D

Frankly both. Before the rally I was hopping that PG would be on podium...

[Wim_Impreza]

Frankly both. Before the rally I was hopping that PG would be on podium...

Really? He isn't so good in my opinion and makes a lot of mistakes.

[A.F.F.]

When is the next stage?

[HarriK]

wrc.com is crashing more often than PG this weekend. It makes me crazy...

Yes, poor show.
Also why wrc.com would show livery. I would be happy to pay some Euros to see action live. But if the even web broadcasting is so poor, maybe better not to dream about live tv :D

[Barreis]

can you watch the power stage online????

It will be on SPORT1 chanell (Germany).. Find it on web..

[HarriK]

can you watch the power stage online????

yes... some links have been posted earlier pages... look those!

[F1boat]

Yes it is blody amazing what a quality difference FIA allowes btw F1 and WRC ! The F1 site is quite proffesional compared to the WRC one.
Write a mail to Michele Mirek !

The tragedy is that IRC has a far better coverage...

[kolvas]

Really? He isn't so good in my opinion and makes a lot of mistakes.

he does to many mistakes but he's sure got the speed, he needs more experience and continuity in his driving

[Marre]

:)

[Wim_Impreza]

he does to many mistakes but he's sure got the speed, he needs more experience and continuity in his driving

More experience? He has driven this rally a lot of times. Don't forget that he has also his JWRC experience and a full year with Suzuki.

[John V]

But we have to say today's troubles with connection to wrc.com is made also by internet troubles in UK, when you tracking it then conection is lost before reaching the wrc.com server.

Not apologize to wrc, but as providing results of whole IRC season we know what incredible load has to be transferred, so it's not easy all the time ;)

[kolvas]

More experience? He has driven this rally a lot of times. Don't forget that he has also his JWRC experience and a full year with Suzuki.

I don't know how many times he driven Rally Sweden but he needs more experince in the car and more continuity in competing, you can't compete with top drivers when you only race a couple of times/year

[Barreis]

More experience? He has driven this rally a lot of times. Don't forget that he has also his JWRC experience and a full year with Suzuki.

Two full years with suzuki (one with s1600 car)..

[HarriK]

How's about the power stage.. will Hirvonen have a best place there, without snow in the air. Maybe it's not the Seb who is fastest ;)

also JML earlier at the morning:
http://translate.google.fi/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=fi&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=fi&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iltalehti.fi%2Fralli%2F20110213 13179596_ri.shtml

[dimviii]

5 minutes for ss21

[Krigen]

stage on

[KKS]

The tragedy is that IRC has a far better coverage...

IRC have eurosport. It's only one positive moment. Bring to WRC big sport channel and you have a TV and web broadcasting.

[AndyRAC]

Yes it is bloody amazing what a quality difference FIA allowes btw F1 and WRC ! The F1 site is quite proffesional compared to the WRC one.
Write a mail to Michele Mirek !

Simple, F1 is their (or Bernie's) money spinner - it can't to be seen as un-professional. The WRC is just a world Rally series......

Even though we all know that WRC is another league compared to that over promoted series.

[Sulland]

Østberg 0,3 behind on first split ! Hmm securing in ??

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Links for live streams for Power Stage !! :)

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=105291&part=sports (http://www.sport1.de/dynamic/tv-programm/)

[Sulland]

now 1,6 ahead at 6,3 km

[Mise]

Even though I'm a fan of Mikko
I hope Mads can win if his fast enough.
No stupid team orders.

[Juha_Koo]

Østberg 0,3 behind on first split ! Hmm securing in ??

No, because he's 3,2 up on Hirvo on the next split. :D

[A.F.F.]

From where you get the splits ?... wrc.com doesn't even open for me.. :mark:

[dimviii]

No, because he's 3,2 up on Hirvo on the next split. :D
nice dogfight!

[Sulland]

Hirvonen responds 3.1 ! Phuhhhh

3,9 on last split.

[dimviii]

Malcolm little before heart attack.
Quesnel had already

[jonkka]

Ogier drops to 5th...

[A.F.F.]

Latvala third :)

Me happy :)

[dimviii]

2nd heart attack for Quesnel :D

[HarriK]

YES!!!!
Hopefully Malcom freezes the situation now :)

[dimviii]

Did Citroen had ever a worster result than this, in recent history?

[GigiGalliNo1]

Don't think so!

[blissard]

Petter would have been third if not for the 10 sec penalty. What actually happened? Somebody talked about a blocked road?

[gregwrc]

Did Citroen had ever a worster result than this, in recent history?


The new history now begins ........

[tolis]

The new history is now begining ........
Don't think so! :)

[bluuford]

Did Citroen had ever a worster result than this, in recent history?

Rally Norway 2007: http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?type=result&rallyid=439

[KKS]

Did Citroen had ever a worster result than this, in recent history?

Norway 2007 http://www.ewrc-results.com/final.php?event=19

[The D Man]

when does the power stage start?

[tolis]

in 35 minutes!

[Barreis]

15:11..

[SunDanceRanch]

Here 2 links from day 2 rally Sweden 2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5cZZkfNzjg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEQXNN7mBH0

Greetings from Ekshärad

[GigiGalliNo1]

Mikko crashes on last stage and Mads wins the rally! :D

[Barreis]

Hihii.. :D

[Koz]

Mikko crashes on last stage and Mads wins the rally! :D

Nah, not a crash, a little spin perhaps? :p

[GigiGalliNo1]

Spin!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=105291&part=sports

Veetle link running well for Power Stage ...

[satnav]

Top 13 are in reverse for the last stage according to rally radio !!!

[GigiGalliNo1]

So that means?

[Allyc85]

http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=105291&part=sports

Veetle link running well for Power Stage ...

Cheers, the link is very smooth unlike all the others I have tried!

[satnav]

Block is first in

[Sulland]

Cheers, the link is very smooth unlike all the others I have tried!

Does not work on my iPad, that does not like flash, so I will follow only results.....

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Another good one - English comms : http://sports--tv.blogspot.com/p/channel-2.html

[Simmi]

Impressive amount of cameras in the stage. This is what I've been hoping for for a long time.

[kobefly]

Nice to get some live action!
Interesting to see the Skoda in the middle to compare.

[Koz]

Thanks for the links Eddie!

[blownb310]

Enjoying the power stage very much! Great coverage. Big dogs getting ready to run last.

[N.O.T]

i am back 1-2-3 for ford !!! great result !!!!

unfortunatelly it didn't come through driving skills or car superiority....

lets hope for a better rally at mexico.

[Koz]

Are they allowed to do this???

[N.O.T]

Chris patterson is driving !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fast Eddie WRC]

WTF is up with Petter ??

[AndyRAC]

What's going on??????

[Simmi]

Has Petter been temporarily blinded or something? This is unbelievable!!!

[User]

LOL

[GigiGalliNo1]

Someone post results please!

[Josti]

A protest from Petter?

[Woodeye]

i am back 1-2-3 for ford !!! great result !!!!

unfortunatelly it didn't come through driving skills or car superiority....

lets hope for a better rally at mexico.

You are right. What a lousy rally. Some excitement to WRC after, i don't know, maybe 5 years and you say its not a good rally. Time to check your medication maybe?

[AndyRAC]

Had his license taken away....?????

[Mirek]

Had his license taken away....?????

Probably...

Loeb engine problem behind finish...

[WRCfan]

Amazing to hear Chris Patterson has just driven a special stage for Petter. Is this a first for WRC? haha

[dimviii]

Petter marketing promotion?

[pettersolberg29]

Petter lost his license on Friday due to speeding, and after 48 hours he is no longer allowed to drive the car so Chris had to step in!

[tfp]

Petter lost his license on Friday due to speeding, and after 48 hours he is no longer allowed to drive the car so Chris had to step in!


Seriously??!

[RS]

Not bad time for Patterson; maybe Malcolm can spot a new 5 year plan in the making :)

[blissard]

This is crazy stuff.

[Rally Hokkaido]

Aren't roads closed for special stages in Sweden? I can understand Chris having to drive liaisons but on SS?????

[dimviii]

So how is the points now with the extra bonus from powerstage?

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Mikko wins Rally Sweden ... brilliant start to WRC 2011 :)

[RS]

I can see it confusing Joe Public that Ogier wins the televised stage and sprays the champagne but doesn't win the rally.

[tfp]

Get in!!!
What were the overall times?

[SunDanceRanch]

Had his license taken away....?????4

Yes they had tking his license because he was driving 112 were 80 was aloud.
That's so hypocrit everywhere you see drunken people how so they get home and there you don't see the police .
And close to the service area they stand with they're laserguns.

[COD]

Smart way to let Ogier past?

[jonkka]

I can see it confusing Joe Public that Ogier wins the televised stage and sprays the champagne but doesn't win the rally.

That's why there are commentators on telly. They explain the situation to the public.

[Barreis]

This is :D
Live TV is future of the sport..

[dimviii]

Aren't roads closed for special stages in Sweden? I can understand Chris having to drive liaisons but on SS?????
With this happened,Ogier gained 4th position.Quesnels finger smells..

[urabus-denoS2000]

Can't you drive a stage without a drivers licence ??? There are lot's of examples for this , eg. Novikov driving when 15/16 years old and the codriver driving the road sections

[jonkka]

yeah - but the should be service before TV stage (or at least tyre zone). And split times shown on telly. And it'd better not be the last stage, where rally winner just cools off.

[MartijnS]

Congrats to Ford for the 1-2-3! Great rally :D

[Woodeye]

Great win for Mikko and Jarmo! :up:

What odd rules you swedes have over there...

[KKS]

Novikov drove few WRC rally's without driver licence at all. And his didn't bring this cirrus.
It's hidden team order! Citroen and unfortunately Petter Solberg should be excluded.

[RS]

That's why there are commentators on telly. They explain the situation to the public.

Hmmm, I still think it would be better to scrap the bonus points and have the actual winner spraying the champagne.

[HarriK]

Nice done Mikko Hirvonen!
Nice to see Mats also in podium!

Congrats to Ford! :)

[Mirek]

Martin Semerád becomes youngest ever winner of PWRC event. It was lucky but that's rally. It was also first victory for DMack tyres,

[ttiirika]

No one can seriously say that this was because of Petter's driving licence. This was Citroen's tactics and that's it. Shame for a good rally to end in such a stupid way. There is too much all this bull..it in world rally cahmpionship nowadays. I have been very keen to watch and follow this sport for over 30 years, but maybe it is now time to say goodbye to this. I will continue to watch IRC though.

[Fast Eddie WRC]

Hirvonen resists Ostberg for victory

Sunday, February 13th 2011, 14:48 GMT
http://cdn.images.autosport.com/editorial/1297608563.jpg

Mikko Hirvonen held off Mads Ostberg to win the first event of the World Rally Championship's new era by just six seconds after three thrilling days in Sweden, as Fords filled the podium.
The 2011 season-opener will be remembered equally for the spectacularly close competition offered by the latest generation World Rally Cars - with just 15s covering Hirvonen, Ostberg, Petter Solberg, Jari-Matti Latvala and Sebastien Ogier starting the final day - and the emergence of Ostberg as a potential winner.
In his first event in a competitive car, the former Subaru privateer opened up a half-minute lead on his first day with Stobart Ford, making the most of running 10th on the road.
The lead quintet concertinaed on Saturday as stage conditions slowed those at the head of the running order, but road position was less of a problem this morning, when Hirvonen - who had overhauled Ostberg halfway through leg two - pulled away from his pursuers.
Then on the final loop this afternoon Hirvonen found loose snow more troublesome than before and started losing time to Ostberg, who went into the deciding Gustavsfors stage just 4.9s off the leading factory Ford.
However Hirvonen had enough in hand on the 4.16km course to hold off Ostberg and claim his first win since the same event a year ago, while Ostberg secured his maiden WRC podium.
"I was fairly nervous before the last stage," Hirvonen admitted. "It's been a fantastic start by the team - a new car and victory straightaway."
Ostberg was more than happy with second despite coming so close to victory.
"It's unbelievable," he said. "Today has been difficult. We tried a little bit to catch Mikko but he was quite quick and I didn't dare to push as hard as I could. Second overall in Sweden, I'm absolutely happy with that."
After a disappointing morning today, Latvala (Ford) regained confidence and flew through the final loop, winning two of the three stages to move back into third place ahead of Ogier, who was less happy with his car following service.
Ogier claimed three extra bonus points by winning the first Power Stage - with the final stage of the event shown live on television and extra points awarded to the top three. Loeb and Latvala completed the Power Stage scorers.
In a bizarre finish to the rally, fifth-placed Solberg had to hand his car to co-driver Chris Patterson for the final road section and special stage, the Norwegian having been caught speeding by Swedish police earlier in the event. Patterson brought the car carefully through the stage to finish fifth.
World champion Sebastien Loeb never featured at the front. Running first on the road in the worst of the snow on Friday was a huge handicap, and with two punctures and a loss of power from a snow-blocked intake slowing him further, he had to settle for a lonely sixth for Citroen.
In a one-off Ford appearance paid for by a fundraising drive among fans, P-G Andersson had a weekend of incidents interspersed with stage wins, leaving him a frustrated seventh thanks to all the delays.
Kimi Raikkonen made an encouraging start to 2011 by bringing his Ice 1 Citroen to the finish in eighth. He starred on the second loop of leg two, when he set a string of top-six stage times.
Of the other WRC entries, Matthew Wilson (Stobart Ford) won a late battle with Khalid Al Qassimi (Abu Dhabi Ford) for ninth, with top-class newcomer Dennis Kuipers' FERM Ford 13th and Ken Block (Monster Ford) 14th after a weekend of building snow experience.
Henning Solberg might have been in the podium fight in the other Stobart car, but after charging up the order on Friday afternoon, he crashed out on Saturday's first stage.
Martin Semerad cruised to an easy Production class win once early lead combatants Anders Grondal and Patrik Flodin retired and were excluded respectively.
S2000 drivers Patrik Sandell and Eyvind Brynildsen were sensationally fast in Friday's snowy conditions, setting top-six times overall. While Brynildsen dropped out with an engine failure, Sandell clung on in the points until the final morning, ultimately finishing 11th.
Overall result:

Pos Driver Car Time/Gap
1. Mikko Hirvonen Ford 3h23m56.6s
2. Mads Ostberg Ford + 6.5s
3. Jari-Matti Latvala Ford + 34.0s
4. Sebastien Ogier Citroen + 47.7s
5. Petter Solberg Citroen + 1m31.2s
6. Sebastien Loeb Citroen + 2m30.3s
7. P-G Andersson Ford + 6m22.0s
8. Kimi Raikkonen Citroen + 7m02.3s
9. Matthew Wilson Ford + 10m11.5s
10. Khalid Al Qassimi Ford + 10m31.1s

Power Stage result:

Pos Driver Car Time/Gap
1. Sebastien Ogier Citroen 2m22.7s
2. Sebastien Loeb Citroen + 0.3s
3. Jari-Matti Latvala Ford + 0.7s
4. P-G Andersson Ford + 1.3s
5. Mikko Hirvonen Ford + 1.4s

[Zico]

Such a strange situation. Can Petter still be awarded the points ?

[Mirek]

Novikov drove few WRC rally's without driver licence at all. And his didn't bring this cirrus.
It's hidden team order! Citroen and unfortunately Petter Solberg should be excluded.

This very much depends also on the legislative of particular country. I know about problems Barum rally organizers had to allow Kruuda start in Barum with only Estonian driving licence (he was 17). He did several WRC events but in Czech republic he couldn't start. After all they managed to get exception but this may be in other countries as well. There is no global law concerning this.

[RS]

Martin Semerád becomes youngest ever winner of PWRC event. It was lucky but that's rally. It was also first victory for DMack tyres,

pWRC was on this weekend?! I didn't notice...

Anyway, not bad performance of DMack tyres. Prokop's times weren't too bad either. I expected worse.

[Coach 2]

I think he lost his license at 15.15 on Friday. 48 hours later you can not run anymore.

[dimviii]

This very much depends also on the legislative of particular country. I know about problems Barum rally organizers had to allow Kruuda start in Barum with only Estonian driving licence (he was 17). He did several WRC events but in Czech republic he couldn't start. After all they managed to get exception but this may be in other countries as well. There is no global law concerning this.

Thats right Mirek,but now we are talking about a ss for less than 2 minutes driving.Can t think that exists a policeman that cant wait 2 minutes to allow a world champion to drive in a close route.Overspeeding was before 2 days.I could undersant all this if immediately they were taking his licence right the time he was speeding.Its ridicoulous....not the tactics,but the way they figure them......

[N.O.T]

Epic start of the new era !!!!

Results wise it couldn't be better...big props to Wilson for letting ostberg get his amazing 2nd place which came after 1 whole day of sweeping the roads !!!!!

This 1-2-3 of ford doesn't say the whole story though.

Mexico is going to give us a more clear indication about many things...is mikko really back ? are the new cars as fast as the old ones ? Can Loeb fight back ? Is Ogier the new No1 ?

Amazing start and i am so pumped up that i didn't even check the expiration date on my medication before taking it !!!!

Bring Mexico !!!

unfortunatelly F1 will not be on untill mexico so some of you will still watch the WRC till then....but in the words of keith richards....you cannot always get what you want...

[DonJippo]

I will continue to watch IRC though.

:eek: They don't use tactics in IRC :confused:

[urabus-denoS2000]

What a great rally it was :) The new season looks very good

Congratulations to ESPN for a great coverage , really interesting with great comentating and just the right mix on on-board and "out-board" footage :)

Great to see these new cars . Way more attractive than the last generation , can't wait to see them on tarmac :)

[N.O.T]

about the licence....when the effect takes place? 2 days after ? before if the licence was expired when it was issued Peter drove 1.5 days without it then......starnge laws.

[Blitzerflitzer]

Here is the FIA-Fine: CoC Decision No4 (http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-content/uploads/CoCDecisionNo4.pdf)

[MartijnS]

Nice signature ;)

[Mirek]

about the licence....when the effect takes place? 2 days after ? before if the licence was expired when it was issued Peter drove 1.5 days without it then......starnge laws.

You have 48 hours when You are allowed to drive without licence in Sweden as I understand.

[urabus-denoS2000]

Forgot to add ...

Well done mr. Wilson for respecting your clients and allowing Ostberg to get 2nd place . I didn't expect that from you , but you have raised a lot in my eyes :) Bravo !

Also , congratulations to the hero of the rally , Mads Ostberg !! ( my girl says he's cute :) )

[White Sauron]

Why does the WRC write such a strange thing??

"Key moment:
Historic Power Stage victory for Ogier as Hirvonen wins rally."

I'd rather say it's a show-off PS victory for Ogier, and a HISTORIC rally win for Hirvonen - the first one to take victory in a new generation car!

[koko0703]

It was a good start to the new era of the WRC. Congratulations for Mikko but even bigger congrats for Mads for his 2nd place finish! I think he handled the situation very well this weekend and hope this is a sign for even better result in near future.

[Zico]

Such a strange situation. Can Petter still be awarded the points ?

Anyone?

[Mirek]

Did Loeb reach service?

[Co-driven]

I think that was really awkward. Here in Brazil, if you have your driver's license suspended then immediately you aren't allowed to drive anymore. If in Sweden you can still drive for more 48 hours, then why don't let him drive for 48 hours and fifteen minutes?

I'm still thinking it's really strange....maybe with this he secured the rest of the budget that was missing for the whole season.

[HarriK]

So: petter lost his license 48h hours ago, and that's why he is not allowed to drive car in Sweden (not even on SS? closed road section?)
Is he allowed to be in co-driver thus? Because in Finland it's not allowed to be co-driver without the license...Just wondering what gonna happen...

[kolvas]

Anyone?

If I have understand the rules correctly Chris wasn't allowed to drive the car on SS and that they both in the car need drivers licens.

It looks like Petter isn't getting any points because of this.

[Mirek]

I think that was really awkward. Here in Brazil, if you have your driver's license suspended then immediately you aren't allowed to drive anymore. If in Sweden you can still drive for more 48 hours, then why don't let him drive for 48 hours and fifteen minutes?

I'm still thinking it's really strange....maybe with this he secured the rest of the budget that was missing for the whole season.

He would need 2 hours, not 15 minutes.