The Ferrari thread !

[Roamy]

If not for the teams so for the drivers sake, Ferrari have to make progress soon.

Even in 2009 Kimi was able to win his race. This year a podium is a false hope.

Here comes the Flav !!!

[veeten]

ah, the "schlepping mule" is back... with all the changes, we still see a much uninspiring Ferrari perusing the mid-pack on track. Even though they are 3rd in the WCC standings, it doesn't say much for the results.

same old, same old...

[Tazio]

Freakin' Pizza Delivery Boyz

[airshifter]

ah, the "schlepping mule" is back... with all the changes, we still see a much uninspiring Ferrari perusing the mid-pack on track. Even though they are 3rd in the WCC standings, it doesn't say much for the results.

same old, same old...

If not for Perez being taken out of the race, that third in the constructors championship would have been gone today. And rightfully so.

The car is just sucking. Both drivers obviously have their hands full on a regular basis, and it's unlikely they will be able to fight the car to much better positions.

[Tazio]

Fred seems to at least be able to keep it on the track and not cause collisions while scoring decent points. Kimi is pretty pathetic, and has embarrassed the hell out of himself. However the car does seriously suck.

[airshifter]

Fred seems to at least be able to keep it on the track and not cause collisions while scoring decent points. Kimi is pretty pathetic, and has embarrassed the hell out of himself. However the car does seriously suck.

Let's face it... if not for the accident even Fred would have only scored one point. And having year of experience battling the pig of the car the Ferrari is, that isn't much to be excited about. Maybe Kimi has the right idea.... just do some donuts on track to prove the point.

And the sad thing is, until the upper levels of Ferrari find real leadership and passion once again, they won't attract the people they need to make the car better. The attitude of chopping heads certainly ins't taking the team in the right direction. They may as well hire Flavio on the sly somehow... maybe he could buy them some points.

[Tazio]

. Maybe Kimi has the right idea.... just do some donuts on track to prove the point.

Right Kimi is purposely driving like a fool. You can do better than that.

if not for the accident even Fred would have only scored one point

Great drivers avoid accidents by having more intelligence, acute senses, and reflexes!

Scoreboard baby!!
Fred 69
Kimi 18

[airshifter]

Right Kimi is purposely driving like a fool. You can do better than that.



Great drivers avoid accidents by having more intelligence, acute senses, and reflexes!

Scoreboard baby!!
Fred 69
Kimi 18

I was talking about the Felipe/Perez accident lofting both drivers up in the points. I don't dispute Fred is outdriving Kimi, but then again he's been in the pig for years. My point was that the points that matter aren't helping either of them....

1 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 140
2 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes 118
3 Daniel Ricciardo Red Bull Racing-Renault 79
4 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 69
5 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault 60
6 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes 57


1 Mercedes 258
2 Red Bull Racing-Renault 139
3 Ferrari 87
4 Force India-Mercedes 77
5 McLaren-Mercedes 66


I can't see Fred holding his own in the WDC or the team holding their own in the constructors if the car continues to be a pig and the others are improving. Today was a prime example.


And if you really want a laugh at Fred vs Kimi, let's count how many WDC's Fred has won for the Scuderia. Oh wait, you can't count to zero can you?

[Tazio]

I can count to two, and that is one more WDC than Kimi has, which by the way he was quite lucky to get that one any way. I can also count to 18 almost 4 times faster than I can count to 69 Einstein. Why would you think it matters to me that Kimi has won a WDC at Ferrari and Fred hasn't, when what really matters is Kimi is getting his ass handed to him by Fred. I'm quite satisfied in the knowledge that Kimi can't hold a candle to Fred in equal machinery!
Stop the denial, and just say it:

"Alonso is a better f1 pilot than Kimi." I promise it will only hurt for a little while

[journeyman racer]

Clearly, there are no prejudiced opinions getting in the way here...